Putting a Cam in your SRT 392/Scatpack.. How much power does it make?
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2020
- We take a trip to the dyno to test out just how much power a full bolt on Charger 392 will make with a custom street cam. We also compare the stock pulls vs pre-cam numbers to give the full story. How much power do you think it will put down?
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Most important, "it's paid for"! 💯👍
Absolutely!
@@RacerX9 I achieved 'paid for' status last month. I live about 75 miles from the guys at HHP in Delaware... I'll be visiting them soon! :)
I always give the 6.4s a huge amount of slack , however , I must say ..480 ish to the wheel in the comfort of these 4 door Hemis ought to make for a very nice ride . My respects
Gato .. absolutely buddy.. this car really set up nice 👍
If we could pull 600 pounds of weight out of the 6.4 charger and challenger they would destroy everything on the road In its perspective class. Just imagine if it weighed the same as a Mustang the mustang would not be able to keep up
The people that tell me that 2021 scatpack can’t even afford the 2021 scatpack 💀
Like bruh, go worry about YOUR own finances
@@williamrose7818 I’m glad my charger is heavy that’s how we survive accidents better due to weight and size heavier car always has the advantage light cars are not safe that’s a fact
@@shaig2520 that’s why dodge makes them so big because they know people gonna drive them crazy
Great point about dyno numbers. They don't tell you what a car will do at the track or on the street. I wish more people would understand that.
Exactly, Torque Curve means way more than peak Horsepower numbers in the 1/8th and 1/4 Mile
Damn, I know that thing is fun to drive! Good job! I like that he kept it naturally aspirated as the 392 should be.
Man I love your videos how passionate about the vehicles you are. My dad was a huge Mopar collector and has passed away before he was 59 I’ve been saving for a charger so I can get one like he had when he was around my age.
Thomas Limbach .. sorry about your dad buddy.. I hope you get that charger to keep his spirit alive 🤜🔥🔥
Basically 500 to the wheels is really impressive for be naturally aspirated!!
Advanced Aspirations .. yes I fully agree 👍
Right need the links for the parts
@@RacerX9 what’s the best cam shaft that I can put in my 2019 charger 5.7? I have a corsa xtreme exhaust system and afe closed air box intake
Until you realize you have a 5k lb car
@@danny25705 whats does that weight have anything to do with it being 500whp and naturally aspirated?? Just curious behind your keyboard warrior statement!
Always loved this Charger...prime example of tastefully executed mods 👊🏻
Fully agree Jason 👍
Props to this guy for a building has a nice 392! I’m not into the hellcat because upfront costs plus I love a well sorted na car. I really like the route this guy went with a mild cam, touring exhaust with high flow catalytic converter‘s etc.
Makes sense to mod a car bit by bit when you save up for it .
Absolutely .. I agree with you 100%
Just a really nice build. I guess drive ability means more today. lol. Back in my day,we’d throw a 600 lift in a big block and go cruising. I can’t figure why anyone would give thumbs down. Nice car and video.
Has to be one of the cleanest builds ive seen on a 392. Bad ass!
Gr8tcylinder Mcgee .. agreed my friend.. 🤜🔥🔥
Another informative video. Keep the info flowing, brother. If he likes his car, it should be no concern of ours. We all have our level of desire and abilities, when it comes to grabbing the vehicles we want. I wouldn't mind paying a little extra to get the bigger engine and then modding the heck out of it (regardless of cost). It's a personal choice, but, a lot of times, a financial one as well.
Awesome video and great explanation of the dyno. Charger has my respect💪
My man! Always with the info I want to know! 💪🏼💪🏼
Who Is LouieXIII .. thank you my friend 👍
I really like that cam, not to much just enough, nice mods without going to a supercharger. Thanks for sharing
Andrew ScatPack312 .. you bet.. yes he’s got it sorted out nicely
RacerX The 1320 challenger did a high 11 sec q mile stock. That’s as fast as a Corvette stingray so wait and aerodynamics have very little play in the grand scheme of things. It’s a way less powerful cars are marketed to us. When you look at results of vehicles it’s almost ironic to talk about weight because the heavier cars are typically faster. Not to mention the difference is only a few hundred pounds between most sports cars and the Nissan GTR which weighs over 3910 LBS without any options is the 4th best track car ever made. Because of how the weight is centered it hugs the road way better than most track oriented cars an is a 10 sec car with under 600hp
Rob has that 392 setup Right!! The exhaust sounded tough!! The car is nice all the way around!! Great Video!!
Thanks brother!
I agree buddy.. really sharp car
"Trans Ammage" cracked me up. Awesome video as always.
iam2 .. haha thanks man
I love that Charger your friend has.
Omg that Charger is so tastefully done
Hey Serg .. absolutely 👍
It’s like you know what I’m thinking two days after I think it you do a video on it! Thanks bro!
Heavydollas OneLuv .. haha I’m in your mind 👍
❤ 392 ❤ Thanks for this Video!
Sovereign Knight .. absolutely my friend 👍
Some awesome cars out there and wow great numbers for a modest cam
That Neon 305 .. fully agree my friend
That exhaust sounds nice too.
I think so too!
Sounds amazing 😮
Can't wait to really start modifying my scatpack. I really want a crazy N/A setup with a built motor but can't seem to find much of anything besides all what your friend has done. Nice vid.
AØ .. thank you my friend.. yes it gets really expensive when you go to a built motor or a 426 .. this car is a really solid setup
@Mackbuilt on Instagram can get u pushing 530 wheel Heads cam port work also
@@Elfamosollantero 👏🏾 much appreciated
Jack 392. Gotta say your profile picture makes my stereotype true of most 392 owners lol (male black)
Hit the forums up for 392 mods there's a ton of them out there
@@clintpopham5691 I live around white people now so basically everyone I see is white Male driving em. I'm mostly a jdm guy the deal on my scat was just too good to pass🤷🏾♂️ but I believe you
That exhaust sounds great.
That 392 sounds nice probably even better in person. On a side note I think you need to start modding that STI of yours. For the track not the drag strip. You seem to have the drag strip covered already 😆.
Wow nice! That will be noticeable.
That cam is awesome exactly what I want for my car.
Scatpack 392 .. yes it’s a great cam profile 👍
Nice 392 srt! With awesome power
The sound on that thing is so nice oh my
Just started the video and I’m pumped already lol
Eddie Teran 🤜🔥🔥
Should do one on a R/T. Thanks for your cool videos too.
wow that's impressive just smart mods all around and very clean that's how a grown man mods a car
Loved It!
Weston 🤜🔥🔥
What kind of cam does it have, and also is it tuned? I just got a 392 f8 green Scatpack, not getting much performance mods yet cause I have extended warranty on it so don’t wanna void it yet. I’d like to know for future reference and to start making a list.
Ive been wanting to do a similar setup on mine. 500rwhp makes for an awesome daily.
Yes it does!
Racer X strikes again , one of my fav vids to date , IMO I truly enjoy these types of videos and your car comparisons are cool too . On a different note will there be any truck content ? perhaps on a old school Chevy SS 454 or a Dodge Indy pace truck ? Keep safe . Cheers
Mike Point .. thanks buddy! If I see an opportunity to do something cool with a truck I will try to seize the opportunity 👍
@@RacerX9 a video on the Durango Hellcat or any of those other new trucks/SUV Hellcats would be cool as well
You need to get a Bang for your Buck and get in the Right State of Mind. I own the same car that mrs X drives but mine is a 2017, 392 scat pack shaker(no mods) right down to the color destroyer Gray and I have no complaints With my scat it has just enough HP an personally I think it's funnier to drive also it's a Beauty that I finally got enough money to purchase it newly. But I guess each to their own, keep on doing what you do Racer x thanks for all the information videos you do for us.
How much miles on your scat?
@@CZE3 currently rite now I have 66500 miles on it.
Hey buddy always a good explanation Go Blue 😆
Marcus Stanford .. thank you my friend.. lol.. O.H.
Very nice!
Thanks for the video
You guys try adjusting the runner valve switch. Looks there’s lost power around 4600 or so because it falls off before switch to the short runner.
I spotted a buddies doing the same exact thing and he made another 20 hp and tq from 4500-4900.
Just my thoughts, and those numbers are respectable in every fashion. I’m sure B Mason makes a good cam.
Don't get discouraged by peak power, it's all in the curve.
Man I want a charger scat pack bad!
I’m new to car stuff, how dangerous is it to upgrade the cams anyway? Need to change other internals with it?
Great video, beautiful car
slipknotron1626 .. thank you my friend
@@RacerX9 do you have any buddies with a 5.7 with longtubes, cam upgrade, pcm swap, custom tune, and what gains to expect? thank you
I love your srt
Enough said it's paid for.
Agreed my friend
I like those sleeper camshaft would like to get my hands on some like his. Is there anyway anybody can purchase or from where? Great content as always bringing actual info 💪🏼
Hey brother, the cam is a custom "Private Label" grind spec'd by Brian Mason and ground by Comp Cams. The cam(titled CD-01) can be purchased through Peitz Performance out of Cypress, TX or Prestige Auto Works out of Slidell, LA.
Quick Brick thanks bro for the help
I want a cam that chops a little but have a good performance for the road and daily driving with a small power gain over the whole rpm band. Whats the best cam for the 392 right now for that? Any perferstion?
beautiful car but yes 6.4s really are great stock NA cost too much for the performance gain
so im a little confused by the tunes,
if you tune on e85 does that mean its the lowest available octane pump gas?
meaning that if you would do a tune on a "better" octane gas, the car would have to reduce power too much for it not to pre detonate?
or am i missing the boat here? because if thats the case, would an e85 tune give you more power gain or a higher octane tune?
thanks!
great video bro
Weston .. thanks man 🤜🔥🔥
I think its really cool
I do like seeing this, but for now still waiting on my 2020 Challenger Shaker 392.
Did you have to use a different pcm and get it tuned?
Mopar made Mycar so well...428hp to the wheel is an animal...minor mods it's a beast..really a beast out the box...
Do like his paint scheme..I'm challenger style.. had tored scat..now pitch black..that said would buy his paint...tried to buy one but missed it by hours.. can't go wrong with Mopar..
Hey, RacerX, can you tell me what kind of camshaft he used and where to get one?
approximately how much does all that cost to do?? The cam with the headers and the tune and all that?
What would a cam install cost on a skat pack?
Where can I find this cam ? Or what’s the best sleepers cams ?
One after another great videos, really nice 392, what kind of wheels are those? I’m thinking they might look good on my hellcat I want a different look so at least it’s different from everyone else’s
@Jason Beeman... Thanks man. The wheels are BC Forged HCS 35. They are 2-piece Forged Modular construction. BC Forged also offers a Monoblock line-up. They are of FANTASTIC quality, especially for the price. Not a cheap wheel by any means, but a fraction of the price of other fully custom forged wheels out there like HRE or Forgeline. I have been absolutely beyond happy with them.👍
@@quickbrick2594 do you own this srt? If so can I know the mod list I already have Headers Exhaust and intake
Very impressed with the HP gain, for a cam that is slightly larger than stock.
I’m a bit interested in why he ported his intake without porting his heads?
Not a lot of people take the time to study camshafts. A lot people like to assume that slapping a larger cam into a car would give them large HP/TQ gain in return. Unfortunately it does not work like that. I understand why he chose the mild cam that is a tiny bit larger than his stock cam. If he were to put a larger cam he’ll need larger heads to accommodate the larger cam. As well as needing a larger stall converter if he’s running an automatic. And after all that is said and done will the transmission hold up with the transfer of power. There just so much one would have to consider when buying a camshaft.
Of course there’s always the group that says “with that amount of money you can get a hellcat”. I would honestly prefer to build my car the way I’d like to build it. Than to buy one. But that’s just me.
All in all I love all of your videos racerX keep it up bud!
@kevin chaparro... Hey brother, thanks for the reply. We talked about porting the heads, and the main reason we didn't is because the factory heads are already badass as cast. The factory ports are huge and already flow more than enough to support just about any amount of HP you can make Naturally Aspirated. Also, if the heads are ported, you gain volume, but you lose velocity, which is paramount to torque production and throttle response on a street driven car that weighs what these things do. On the factory 392's, the limiting factor is actually the intake manifold. That said, in a car that weighs 4600 lbs(with me in the car), it was imperative that we maintain torque to get her big ass out of the hole at the track and to maintain low end throttle response and that fun to drive factor on the street.👍👊
Quick Brick I honestly never knew that, the stick heads definitely live up. Normally from what I know porting both heads an intake are definitely recommended. I’m very interested on the rest of the engine build. I know you probably don’t want to let all the secrets out. But all in all you have a pretty mean charger.
@@kevinchaparro4610 Really not a whole lot to it in terms of hardware... Factory Air box w/ Hellcat Filter, Fastman 84mm "True Bore" Throttle body, BMason Ported Intake Manifold, Custom Cam"CD-01" Spec'd by BMason/PSI 1516 valve springs, Hardened Pushrods, Hellcat lifters, 1 7/8" Stainless Works Long Tubes, Hi-Flow Cats, AWE Touring Resonated Cat-back exhaust. ID650 Injectors, Tuned by Alex Peitz(Peitz Performance) on 93 & E85.👍
@@quickbrick2594 I have a question I got headers intake and a jay green tune made 460whp on a mustang dyno sae corrected and 490whp/473 tq on a dyno jet was your car on a conservative tune here?
@@brandonUwanawich954 It was a.safe tune per se'. We continued to log the car and make adjustments to the tune at the track and on the street over the months following this video. Dyno numbers are literally all over the place from one to the other, so I never got too caught up in them other than to compare and contrast against my own previous numbers run on that same dyno. The car ran a best pass of 7.20 @ 97 in 1/8 and 11.29 @ 121 on 1.54 60' on the stock converter at full weight(4650lbs with me (250lbs)) in -500 DA at Houston Raceway Park in January of 2021(RacerX got the pass at the 16:25 mark of the "1320 vs Scat Pack... The epic Rematch" video he launched on Jan. 11, 2021. After 6 enjoyable years off owning the car, I sold her that following July. The car ran great for what she was(Full Bolt Ons with Cam). She always held her own at the track against cars that should have been faster. Sounds like your car is making great power. Good luck with it and enjoy. I miss her for sure.
I stay on the SW side if fort worth and would like some more Information about that shop. I've been looking for a good place to take my car.
What did that cam do to fuel mileage?
How much money did he spend to pick up 31hp? Is the money to hp ratio worth it?
There is that guy the put a a 150 wet shot in his 392 on stock bottom doing under 10second pulls but it did blow after 2 years of track runs set like that.
What kind of Cam has been installed?
Does it work with MDS? Sometimes I drive further than the corner store.
Great numbers. I'm looking to mod my 392. But power per dollar isn't there. For the money and labor, not sure it's worth a cam. Nonetheless, great car and even better numbers.
Scared you a little bit on the first pull aye😂
Love those wheels. I have them on my Hellcat
What rims are those???
@@rockymaurer2 Triumph forged CV.I deep concave. www.triumphforged.com/
I would be curious to see his 0-60 and drag runs
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Until then....Racer X!
Good job
horsepower is cool, all numbers don't mean anything when it comes down to the graph.
You can see how much it picked up on the higher RPM, its going to continue to pull through that side of the car.
amazing difference.
tell him to dump some race E85 and make that 500 number.
What size cam is that sir?
Anyway you can share with us all the mods he has done up to this point?
How much did he spend on the cams?
Hi Racer X, do you think it’s possible to make close to 500 rear wheel hp in a scat that is still really reliable without have to change pistons or the rings or modding the trans?I heard the rings are the weak spot for these engines. My goal is to get this motor to around 500 to 550 rear wheel hp on natural aspirated.
Thanks . Love the channel!
I’m not racer x but maybe I can help. You can get close to 500whp but 550 is a stretch fbo e85 tune full exhaust. However, you can use nitrous but then you still run into ring and piston failures. What many guys do on the cheap for boost or nitrous is grind the ring gap to except more expansion with the extra heat but then the wrist pins and piston skirts tend to come apart if pushed to far but with a small shot you should be fine. But in all reality yes you can make close to 500whp with good head work and porting, cam exhaust/headers hellcat air box on with trans tune and motor tune which raises the rpm up and optimizes fuel and ignition timing. Got to take the heads off to do cam anyways also throttle body helps. My point is to get everything out of this motor you going to be paying a lot of money in parts and labor and your already heavier than the competition so at that point you might as well just build the motor you don’t even got to boost it to make the numbers you want if you fully build it. then you just set it up for boost in the build to run low compression higher displacement by punch it out to a 426 ci with cam, rotating assembly rods, then add boost later and kill hellcats. Another option is to just buy a new motor alleviate the labor crap with shops. Pull yours and sell it then turn around get a loan for another 10k buy a boost ready motor that’s built from say people like Steve white ect. Drop it in get it tuned with supporting fuel system and your good. Although I don’t own one but I do own a hc and have driven scats. All and all it comes pretty well equipped from the factory and truthfully if they weighed 3700 lbs they would eat everything out stock but they are not. Personally man it’s to much money just keep it stock as a fast daily and buy cheap light car and mod that for much cheaper needing less hp to compete as weight is less which translates to reliability also the trans in these cars are expected to move 2 tons plus with mods. These transmissions are rated for a certain tq number after that you got to upgrade and even more so when the car is a tank. So my advice to you is save your money buy a old school car that weighs 3400lbs and is actual muscle then drop a new motor in that for cheaper and will turn more heads holding value unlike a scat. Remember you don’t get a return on mods unless it’s a true muscle car as in old school and the mods are tasteful but get really performance mods don’t net cash people see them as a head ache because they question the quality of work done and then they question the existing life the motor has in it based on the fact you probably beat the shit out of it. Sorry a bit late probably just looked at the time frame 🤣 sorry for the late book. Hope it helps.
Is 500 wtq still the limit on the auto trans?
I wish you would have linked the cam in your description
This cam is one b mason designed for peitz performance. I think he also made one for doctor differential I would like know the difference in them are. What's Rob's track times and speed. You and b mason are the best for mopar content!!!
@Donald Swaller... Before the cam, and in PERFECT DA(0 or negative), the car ran consistent low 11.6's at 117...with a best of one 11.56 @ 117.4 on a 1.63 60' back in January. The only time I've had a chance to run the car in 1/4 since the cam install, was mid May when DA was around 1300' with high humidity and a 10-15 mph headwind. Car went 11.61 @ 118.1 with a 1.70 60'. I cannot wait to see what she does when I have an opportunity to run her in same conditions she ran pre-cam best ET in. Just sucks I gotta wait a while before those conditions roll back around again. I think the car will go 11.30's/11.40's at 119 to 120 full weight(interior) on a Drag Pack. I am considering a conservative converter to help pull her 4560 lb ass(with me) out of the hole. The Cam makes more power & torque everywhere above 2500 rpm, and absolutely RIPS on the street, but when she dead hooks on a prepped surface, it takes that N-th of a seccond for the motor get "on top" of the cam on the stock converter. Just gonna tweak it from here because I am beyond happy with the responsiveness/mannerisms and overall performance of the car with the cam, especially how much harder the car pulls on the big end, where she used to peter out.👍👊
@@quickbrick2594 As soon as seen X put your car on I was interested in the results were like you I'm not worried about high # I want it to perform at tip in to top end. My car 392 scat challenger is fbo Jay greene 93 tuned and trans tune runs good down low but peters out up top that's what b mason said it would do. Do you know what the difference is between peitz cam and doctor differential cam that B designed and how much did the trans tune help I'm saving my pennies for one these cams. I guessing you run 11.2 to 11.3 in good air I'll be watching for your car this fall
@@donaldswaller415 Thanks brother...The cam I run is titled "CD-01". It can purchased through Peitz Performance, Doctor Differential and Prestige Autoworks. I'm really happy with the cam. It's a great all around performer and I can't wait to see what it feels like in some good conditions this Fall. I pulled a GT350R(with its Carbon Fiber wheels, rear seat delete and NO passenger) on the highway by 2 cars last weekend and that was with a 200 lb passenger in my car, so this cam is for sure no joke. 👍👊
@@quickbrick2594 in Canada 1800 is a good DA, avg DA is 2300 + humidity + 30c
Where did he get those fuel rail covers??
Can the dealership pick up if you use a 100 to 150 shot of nitrous ? I got full warranty,lol
I do love the Texas plates
vortecd .. me too 👍
Can anyone tell me where to find wheels like this. He said they were VC forged wheels but through my research I haven’t found that company name at all. I found BC forged, VR forged , but no VC forged. Thanks
People just don’t know how to make power with the 6.4 NA. You can make upwards or 100-150 with a properly spec cam “sae”
Awesome vid and awesome car!! I would like to know the wheel and tire setup on this animal...I’d love to add it to my 2019 Scat Charger!!
@Will Jeff... Thanks brother! The wheels are BC Forged HCS35, which is a 2 piece forged modular wheel(Brushed Dark Bkack Barrel & Rim/Matte Black Face with Exposed Stainless Steel Hardware)...20x9.5 F/20x11 R. Tires are as follows: Front: Michelin Pilot Super Sport 285/35/20. Rear: Nitto 555R Drag Radials 305/35/20. Hope that helps👍
Quick Brick super badass!! Job well done brother!!
U thunk u could get a POV of both of ur cars?stay blessed bro
blvk_thomasino .. I will have to see what I can do 👍
Racerx!, can you tell us what he spent ball park ?
What kind of 1/4 mile times has the car run? What did labor and materials estimated cost?
Great subject and this is one of the best looking Chargers out there!
Thanks brother. Haven't run the car in good air since installing the cam. Car went 11.56 @ 117.4 in 0' DA with no headwind and a race weight of 4560lbs back in January with Full Bolt-ons & E85 on stock cam. I have not had an opportunity to run the car in similar conditions since cam was installed, but given the additional 30ish SAE Corrected HP the car is showing on the dyno, I would expect consistent low 11.40's/high 11.30's at around 119-120. That said it will be next Fall before I get that opportunity. Cost for all performance mods is probably between $8k to $10k, but keep in mind that was spread out over the almost 5 years I've owned the car and I paid the car off almost a year and half ago.👍
I agree my friend.. car is well tasteful done..
@@quickbrick2594 Your 392 build is what I want to replicate with my 392 Challenger minus the E85.Is there anything you would have done differently?
Did you unlock the ECU ?
How much all these mods cost in total?
tune on the car?
I’m a noob when it comes to car mods. Isn’t there already a cam shaft in the car so what are you changing ? Also do putting a cam on it increase horsepower if so how ?
Yes it already has a camshaft they changed it out for a bigger one. It lets the valves open longer to let more air and fuel in the cylinder to make more power short answer
how much does it cost to cam my 392?
Nice 392! Im always on the fence about certain mods and someone’s intentions behind them. The 392 is the performance V8 and its setup very well from the factory. Theres not a ton of room for improvement without sacrificing drivability or going forced induction. If your goal is to make hellcat power out of a 392, just get a hellcat. Building a car is fun either way, but after investing so much in mods, you could’ve bought a hellcat. Based on the mods, the owner in the video probably hasnt sunk too much into the car yet.
wayde philpot .. he’s got a fair amount invested but he wasn’t after the hellcat.. he was after the 392 and making it as nice as possible.. I would say he did a really good job 👍
Can you post the shops website in the description?