Its hilarious how ive been thinking about and ( struggling with) arcanes aoe rotation for weeks now and Xaryu?! of all ppl is the one that makes me get it😂😂
I can't state enough how "You wanna think of it this way ... " and then following a one sentence statement what this mechanic is about ... "Barrage as much as you can with 4 charges." Thank you so much for this baseline. I watch all of your content, because you have a gift explaining complex things in a very simple way. Also, the fact that you can explain it while doing it is a big plus.
I never expected you to start posting PVE content! It feels weird but we love it. More content on pvp and pve man keep up the good work ❤️ And one more thing. If you could post a vod on one of your keys it would be amazing.
Many People do guides for specs nowadays. Hardly anyone manages to explain the rotation while playing it. But you defiently nailed that. This video is a blessing for anyone who wants to pick up arcane. Nicely done! Keep up the great content! 👍
So, say we have orb up as an example (One of the ways to get back up to 4 arcane charges) along with clearcasting proc. Why wouldn't we clearcast to get the 20% increase in barrage damage before sending barrage? So basically, missles first to get nether precision, then barrage? Instead of just holding clearcasting just to barrage as much as possible; shouldn't it be a priority to make sure out barrages are buffed by NP?
i had hard time finding best rotation and im stuck at 2.4 rio cause i have no team to play with and im not perfect at it. thanks alot bro now i know the perfect m+ rotation . gg on 13 mist too . respect +
Hmm on single just doing arcane blast does more dmg than barrage on 4 charges.. Barrage is only for aoe good or does it do more dmg normally ? Even without Äthervision
I thought you wanted to touch and then surge, since it stacks damage and explodes. Surge is the hardest hitting ability we have, so wouldn't we want to add that to the explosion at the end of touch?
imagine him sitting on the couch with his wife and kid watching a movie or something and he's just thinking about the arcane mage rotation (not hating)
When you’re sitting on the orb cd with no NP buff, is it n worth to just keep sending ABarr as long as you get orb procs or should you fish for cc procs with ABlast and only barrage into those np buffs and use orb if you don’t get any orb procs? I think the wowhead prio list is not 100% consistent in that scenario.
Jo quick question. When i add a Weakaura to Track my buffs (like the 2 curved lines Purple / Blue etc.) the Blizzard basic ones always also show up - can i shut them off somehow? Xar doenst seem to have them
If u have two charges of nether presicion, and u have burden of power , must use blast- barrage o just blast? and then use blast- barrage on second charge only?
maining a mm hunter and this is ridicilous compared to its rotation. there you basically just use multi shot to get your aimed shot or rapid fire to do aoe damage and that is pretty much it except explosive shot and volley on cd xD
damm i was doing aoe wrong, i just sended barrages hoping for orbs, not caring about having one of the way to get the mastery back, so sometimes i had zero charges and went to melee to arcane explosion, tried this rotation and doing 900k with ilvl 603
@@poro9084 Yes ans that's what i'm looking for. Actually i never now when i will send orb or not with my WA. i know how to refull my 4 stack but not exactly when i will be 0 stack. On his buff on top right i don't see any buff or i don't know wich one it is. if you have the spell/aura i need to track
@@graok2440 There's no way to know you'll get an orb proc. Weakauras just show when you actually DID get a proc, so you can barrage again and spend the 4 charges the free orb has given you. You have to always have a way to get back to 4 charges like Xaryu says. If you barrage and get an orb proc, that's a bonus and you have to react fast enough to barrage again and not spend whatever spell you have banked to get back to 4 charges (save that for after your last orb proc if you get multiple).
I thought i was doing something wrong even though I pretty much do the exact same thing as u but cant even compete with FDKs and Assa rogues. Turns out they are just broken since i pretty much do the same dmg on the dummies as u - obviously its a bit different in m+ due to tank/timings/etdc.. but still. I'm so glad they nerfed us twice though totally makes sense
Ele shams are busted too. I was practicing my AoE rotation on these dummies yesterday and they were in execute range so I was doing inflated DPS because Arcane Barrage was doing 100% more damage. Despite that, this ele sham who had 2 ilvls on me was doing MORE AoE dps than I was. Even though all dummies were in execute range. That's like an arms warrior DPSing a dummy in execute range getting outDPSed by, well, an ele shammy as well lmao.
Xaryu just a tip if you dont have charges its not worth to missle into arcane surge because you would waste nether prec on a weak arcane barrage what you can do is arcane orb so you wont waste a nether precision and a free barrage
So you don't use arcane explosion. Easy enough. I guess only if a tank is running abs the next mob is too far away? Otherwise, I'll probably just remove the spell from my bars.
If you’re new to arcane you should not even try the AoR rotation unless you can do ST with your eyes closed. Kind of joking but you get it, you can get a lot of AoE out of ST rotation with aoe talents. Also if you are going to do AoE rotation you start at 5 targets+ or 3+ in execute, less target count you’ll get more AoE going ST.
You can if you want, but generally speaking it doesn't add that much value to your AoE burst. It's only decent for sustained burst but even then it's quite negligible. The alternative however also doesn't add that much value either (Energized Familiar or Consortium's Bauble) so it's really just personal preference. If you find yourself going oom in dungeons, Energized Familiar can help. If you want slightly better ST, go Consortium's Bauble. If you want a 2nd orb charge for bit more AoE consistency, go Charged Orb.
Yooo, I just realized I commented you video reminding this and completely forgot I did that. Now I see you actually reworked this and deleted old video. 😮
*Blizzard* "we know arcane is a nightmare so we're gonna clean it up and make it friendly for new people that want to try it!" *makes it 1% less complicated than Dragonflight. Still a nightmare *
Oh my god. I was doing AoE wrong. I wasn’t using the 2 new barrage conditions. God I feel so stupid. I can’t wait to get into a key tonight and see how much more damage I can actually do. This video/explanation made SO MUCH click for me. My god. It sounds so easy listening to hin
And fury got 4 nerfs in a row and more still coming )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) The amount of damage an arcane mage can deal both st and mt far surpasses fury's potential but no sizeable nerf is in sight. i really hate blizzard balancing department.
@@brice9013 no. Comparison is the rational urge of wanting balance between different aspects and categories but it is OBVIOUS that blizzard has always avoided nerfing mages bc one of all 3 specs was ALWAYS in meta which you cannot say for most other specs except for rogues. Both classes are always dominating and this is unbalanced and bullshit. Why they favour mage this much really makes me think someone they are abusing is maining mage and they come out if they touch it or something bc there isn't s logical explanation to this shit class always being s-a tier in every spec and season.
@@phlemrazzes7704 I hope you know how stupid you sound when you consider that this is constant DPS without fall off. Even fury which is considered to be one of the best cleave specs cannot keep up this DPS even pre nerf. You're degenerated.
Somebody please make a reel with sweaty meme spamming keyboard with arcane mage trying to dps, and compare with dancing and singing kid as ret hitting 2 buttons 😂 (before any butthurt rets arrive, I play both😂)
Its hilarious how ive been thinking about and ( struggling with) arcanes aoe rotation for weeks now and Xaryu?! of all ppl is the one that makes me get it😂😂
Because he talk like a pvp boy not like a pve boy
The same tutorial would last 45m for a pve boy
@@PrimarchRoboleonFrenchyman Literally any other guide on youtube is 40+ min
I can't state enough how "You wanna think of it this way ... " and then following a one sentence statement what this mechanic is about ... "Barrage as much as you can with 4 charges."
Thank you so much for this baseline. I watch all of your content, because you have a gift explaining complex things in a very simple way. Also, the fact that you can explain it while doing it is a big plus.
PVP player explains arcane mage 100000000 times better then any pve player.
No 40 mins videos needed xaryu ty for that i appreciate you
I never expected you to start posting PVE content!
It feels weird but we love it.
More content on pvp and pve man keep up the good work ❤️
And one more thing. If you could post a vod on one of your keys it would be amazing.
Many People do guides for specs nowadays. Hardly anyone manages to explain the rotation while playing it. But you defiently nailed that. This video is a blessing for anyone who wants to pick up arcane. Nicely done! Keep up the great content! 👍
So many guide just over complexify the shit
awesome man - much appreciated - Nice rotation for something I've struggled with massively (AOE as Arcane)
Hey @Xaryu Clips , Can you share your arcane Orb Weak aura pls? will be rly nice
I need the Weakauras please
yes !
Check out manathars weak aura its real close and good
you explained it perfectly in two minutes.
Any chance for updated vid on the topic, considering the changes done to mage?
These guides have been awesome.. Thank you
This helped out alot !!! Thanks man!!
Hey, how do you get the weakaura for the arcane orb proc?
did u get it, i was looking for that.
Awesome Guide! 👍
OMG i didnt know you could see the Orb Proc with a Weakaura :O. Now i can out dmg people, as soon as i find it xD
So, say we have orb up as an example (One of the ways to get back up to 4 arcane charges) along with clearcasting proc. Why wouldn't we clearcast to get the 20% increase in barrage damage before sending barrage? So basically, missles first to get nether precision, then barrage? Instead of just holding clearcasting just to barrage as much as possible; shouldn't it be a priority to make sure out barrages are buffed by NP?
i had hard time finding best rotation and im stuck at 2.4 rio cause i have no team to play with and im not perfect at it. thanks alot bro now i know the perfect m+ rotation . gg on 13 mist too . respect +
there's no rotation, it's spell priority...
@@mooncult88 potato . potato
TMW arcane orb proc what is that? how do i add it?
Ty for such clear explanation without all the bloat to get .5% damage in rare siuations
Xar is the GOAT
Should I barrage on my Burden Power proc or wait for Glorious Insandescence then barrage
Man thats like learning to conditions in programming
Hmm on single just doing arcane blast does more dmg than barrage on 4 charges.. Barrage is only for aoe good or does it do more dmg normally ? Even without Äthervision
Can you create a video showing the rotation of mage frost? Please
how do you keep track of when arcane barrage casts arcane orbs?
Build code would be nice! Thanks in advance.
I thought you wanted to touch and then surge, since it stacks damage and explodes. Surge is the hardest hitting ability we have, so wouldn't we want to add that to the explosion at the end of touch?
imagine him sitting on the couch with his wife and kid watching a movie or something and he's just thinking about the arcane mage rotation (not hating)
future vids would you mind linking the talent tree so we can copy it :D thanks
When you’re sitting on the orb cd with no NP buff, is it n worth to just keep sending ABarr as long as you get orb procs or should you fish for cc procs with ABlast and only barrage into those np buffs and use orb if you don’t get any orb procs? I think the wowhead prio list is not 100% consistent in that scenario.
how do you have all your buffs showing on the middle of the screen like that
Hey, can you tell us about fire mage and rotation? how its performs in pve compare to arcane? thanks in advance!
Could you share your procs barrage weakauras?
Jo quick question. When i add a Weakaura to Track my buffs (like the 2 curved lines Purple / Blue etc.) the Blizzard basic ones always also show up - can i shut them off somehow? Xar doenst seem to have them
Option => Combat => "spell alert opacity" => 0%
What UI addon are you using?
love this
What’s that yellow potion?
Well arcane looks fun this time around
How does the WA buffs call?
Can't find it anywhere.
Plz help it's really handy
Is there a link for the weak aura?
been really liking / using ur TMW setup, u mind updating it in ur discord for the orb proc ?
is taht TMW instead of WA????
You should link to your ST rotation if you’re going to reference it
If u have two charges of nether presicion, and u have burden of power , must use blast- barrage o just blast? and then use blast- barrage on second charge only?
Read the wowhead guide, in that situation you always barrage first
That’s only if you are casting something other than arcane blast otherwise it’s blast blast barrage
when you have no way of getting your charges back, you can barrage instead of blast
Does ANYONE have a weak aura for the 4pc?
maining a mm hunter and this is ridicilous compared to its rotation. there you basically just use multi shot to get your aimed shot or rapid fire to do aoe damage and that is pretty much it except explosive shot and volley on cd xD
damm i was doing aoe wrong, i just sended barrages hoping for orbs, not caring about having one of the way to get the mastery back, so sometimes i had zero charges and went to melee to arcane explosion, tried this rotation and doing 900k with ilvl 603
Wich proc do you track on WA for spam barage at 5:04. I don't see any buff to know when we can spam barage.
Not sure what he is tracking on the WA. But when you barage and a free orbs shoots out, you barage again. That was happening 3-4 times at 5:04
@@str4pzy At 5:01 you can see a WA on Highlight it's his proc barage isn't it?
@@graok2440 it means that his barrage send orb
@@poro9084 Yes ans that's what i'm looking for.
Actually i never now when i will send orb or not with my WA. i know how to refull my 4 stack but not exactly when i will be 0 stack.
On his buff on top right i don't see any buff or i don't know wich one it is.
if you have the spell/aura i need to track
@@graok2440 There's no way to know you'll get an orb proc. Weakauras just show when you actually DID get a proc, so you can barrage again and spend the 4 charges the free orb has given you. You have to always have a way to get back to 4 charges like Xaryu says. If you barrage and get an orb proc, that's a bonus and you have to react fast enough to barrage again and not spend whatever spell you have banked to get back to 4 charges (save that for after your last orb proc if you get multiple).
do you think Hekili rotation addon would show me a good rotation or it's not working that good?
Hekili doesn't do fire or arcane justice. Turning it off both time gave me big dps gains
@@matthewfincham243 thanks🙏🏻 i will try to learn the rotation and start to think alone hope i will get better and stronger
@@bobbyazemelogep8144 there's no rotation, it's spell priority
@@bobbyazemelogep8144 Just practice the rotation bit by bit on target dummies. You'll eventually get it right.
whats theWA ? :)
Can you explain to me why the top mages aren't running high voltage?
It's terrible on bosses
At which point do we start the AOE rotation? At 5 enemies plus?
WoWhead guide says 3-4 if in execute range, 5 and above otherwise yeah.
Great guide, but time stamps brother
he asked to watch the single target first but doesnt link single target one
What is this WA please ????
how your spells are so fast (no animation)?
for example. missiles > orb . when i did that my char need 1 sec to complete missiles then i can orb
maybe u have little haste, so ur gcd is slower?
You clip the missiles, that means you cancel the missiles and orb immidiately while channeling missile
@@tolgavegeta I know that . But in this video is so super fast
@@mooncult88 my haste is 21%
@@dimitriss1418 You can check his armory for stats, but he currently has 29% haste
I thought i was doing something wrong even though I pretty much do the exact same thing as u but cant even compete with FDKs and Assa rogues. Turns out they are just broken since i pretty much do the same dmg on the dummies as u - obviously its a bit different in m+ due to tank/timings/etdc.. but still. I'm so glad they nerfed us twice though totally makes sense
Ele shams are busted too. I was practicing my AoE rotation on these dummies yesterday and they were in execute range so I was doing inflated DPS because Arcane Barrage was doing 100% more damage. Despite that, this ele sham who had 2 ilvls on me was doing MORE AoE dps than I was. Even though all dummies were in execute range. That's like an arms warrior DPSing a dummy in execute range getting outDPSed by, well, an ele shammy as well lmao.
Xaryu just a tip if you dont have charges its not worth to missle into arcane surge because you would waste nether prec on a weak arcane barrage what you can do is arcane orb so you wont waste a nether precision and a free barrage
So you don't use arcane explosion. Easy enough. I guess only if a tank is running abs the next mob is too far away?
Otherwise, I'll probably just remove the spell from my bars.
Do you ever use Arcane explosion?
nope. only if you somehow at 0 charges which means you messed up
ppl will hate but you cannot be a bad wow player if u have alot of rank 1s in pvp or pve
If you’re new to arcane you should not even try the AoR rotation unless you can do ST with your eyes closed. Kind of joking but you get it, you can get a lot of AoE out of ST rotation with aoe talents. Also if you are going to do AoE rotation you start at 5 targets+ or 3+ in execute, less target count you’ll get more AoE going ST.
why not use Charged orb?
You can if you want, but generally speaking it doesn't add that much value to your AoE burst. It's only decent for sustained burst but even then it's quite negligible.
The alternative however also doesn't add that much value either (Energized Familiar or Consortium's Bauble) so it's really just personal preference. If you find yourself going oom in dungeons, Energized Familiar can help. If you want slightly better ST, go Consortium's Bauble. If you want a 2nd orb charge for bit more AoE consistency, go Charged Orb.
Yooo, I just realized I commented you video reminding this and completely forgot I did that. Now I see you actually reworked this and deleted old video. 😮
Your weak aura's for mage plsss
*Blizzard* "we know arcane is a nightmare so we're gonna clean it up and make it friendly for new people that want to try it!"
*makes it 1% less complicated than Dragonflight. Still a nightmare *
Mages get complex talents and balance druids get eclipse and trees, nice
can you link tree
Oh my god. I was doing AoE wrong. I wasn’t using the 2 new barrage conditions. God I feel so stupid.
I can’t wait to get into a key tonight and see how much more damage I can actually do.
This video/explanation made SO MUCH click for me. My god. It sounds so easy listening to hin
Nice video. Anyone can give me the weakaura plz?
You talk and click fast but I see it. Thanks brother
i need ur wekaura xD share it ;) nice video btw u help me alot out
I don't know what the hype is about, I issue this dps in 614 item level, unlike this gentleman
And fury got 4 nerfs in a row and more still coming ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
The amount of damage an arcane mage can deal both st and mt far surpasses fury's potential but no sizeable nerf is in sight. i really hate blizzard balancing department.
Looking in the wrong direction. Comparison is the thief of joy
@@brice9013 no. Comparison is the rational urge of wanting balance between different aspects and categories but it is OBVIOUS that blizzard has always avoided nerfing mages bc one of all 3 specs was ALWAYS in meta which you cannot say for most other specs except for rogues. Both classes are always dominating and this is unbalanced and bullshit. Why they favour mage this much really makes me think someone they are abusing is maining mage and they come out if they touch it or something bc there isn't s logical explanation to this shit class always being s-a tier in every spec and season.
2.3 m dps for 5 cleave sustain isnt something that needs nerf in the current landscape bro.
@@phlemrazzes7704 I hope you know how stupid you sound when you consider that this is constant DPS without fall off. Even fury which is considered to be one of the best cleave specs cannot keep up this DPS even pre nerf. You're degenerated.
Bro got roasted on the arcane mage discord 😂😂😂
Somebody please make a reel with sweaty meme spamming keyboard with arcane mage trying to dps, and compare with dancing and singing kid as ret hitting 2 buttons 😂 (before any butthurt rets arrive, I play both😂)
No 1 watches pvp anymoreתץ?
bro don't say "watch the single larget video - its also on UA-cam"... haha don't be lazy!! Link in description or something
teaches you how skill less the class is when potion is at 5