*The Hunger Games Catching Fire* EMOTIONALLY DESTROYED US | Movie Reaction
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- THE HUNGER GAMES CATCHING FIRE (2013) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION
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Discussion/Review: 56:36 - 1:11:12
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This movie wrecked us emotionally, but it was SO DAMN GOOD! It somehow got even better!!
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The books are deep and complex, the author did an excellent job with these stories. The movies were a decent adaptation but left a lot of important info unexplained. A lot of your questions are answered very well in the books. I'm not even sure where to begin explaining things, lol, it might be worth a quick google if you don't want to read the entire trilogy. P.S. Ignore the trolls...
Ohh I really hope you will watch The Ballad of songbirds and snakes. It explains so much ❤love your reactions
This movie is more powerful because the injustice level amps up, and new characters are introduced who are compelling and perplexing. The ending is fantastic!
So excited for the next movies and the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes!❤
If you pay close attention in these movies, Snow actually never lies once. He’s very up front and quite honest about everything, and his motivation, though his actions are in fact incredibly brutal, is in to just keep Panem from falling apart. Absolute masterfully written villain!
He is definitely one of the better and more unique villains in a while. My only criticism is that he and the Capitol didn't really try that hard to avoid a rebellion - what did they think was going to happen with all these random beatings and killings of people for something as simple as making a hand sign?
The movie acts like everything hinges on Katniss (because she's the hero of course), but I don't think the rebellion happened because she was just so inspirational and because she made unscripted comments about Rue, it happened because of the Capitol's brutality.
Seems like the best thing to do would be to make Katniss and Peeta act just like the other entitled Capitol members living in luxury to kill her popularity, back off the cruelty and violence, and maintain the status quo. I dunno, maybe there are reasons that wouldn't work but I don't think the book or movie told us.
@@bobdonda Even the author realised the system she created was extremely fragile. Hence why she added in the line "it must be a fragile system if it can be brought down bay a handful of berries" among others. Tbf, no system like these ever last long, they are destined to collapse in a few generations at most.
@@bobdondaI mean it’s explained pretty well how they stop stuff like rebellions. They scare people so badly that they don’t even want to think about rebelling cause they don’t want to put themselves or loved ones in danger. You do something rebellious, you get killed or they will cut your tongue out or something. What they do is use fear tactics with the beatings and everything. Despite the Captitals brutality, even Katniss doesn’t want to rebel out of fear for her loved ones. Katniss is dangerous to Snow and the Capital because she brings hope, which Snow says is the one thing that is stronger than fear. This is why people are finally rebelling. They’ve never had that hopeful spark before Katniss
It's realistic though, think of places like North Korea for example@@bobdonda
@@bobdonda You should look into Nazi Germany and the Gestapo.
So, the mockingjay in the movies has been associated with Katniss. Cinna showing support for Katniss is not safe at that point because she's been causing uprisings. But mockingjays in general are already a symbol of rebellion.
This isn't mentioned in the movies or explained very well, but the Capital makes genetically engineered animals (and possibly people as well) as weapons. Not just for the Hungergames, but for war.
They made a bird, jabberjay, that could repeat anything it heard, so they would sit in a tree and look innocent and basically work as a recording device without drawing attention. The people in the districts caught on pretty quickly though and fed the birds false information, so they were useless. The Capital then released the birds since they were a failed project, and kind of hoped they would die, but they bred with wild mockingbirds and made mockingjays. Mockingjays can't repeat words, but they can repeat melodies.
Mockingjays became a symbol of the Capital's failure. So Cinna not only showing support for Katniss, but for the rebellion in public like that? Super dangerous, and he knew what he was doing.
omg I've watched the hunger games soooo many times and I always wanted to understand the mockingjays better. Then I've recently watched the ballad of songbirds and snakes and I saw the jabberjays, but I didn't think that they bred with mockingbirds and made mockingjays, but now that you said it it makes sooo much sense 😮 thats cool af!! thank you so much for this info ❤
Your comment explains it perfectly!!
The books have SO much more information the lore of Panam is awesome 😊
@@bella7162 I can't recommend reading the books strongly enough. The movies are good but there are important details missing.
Great explanations
From what I can remember, the famous three-finger hand gesture actually originates from District 12, and is supposed to be a sign of goodbye, respect and unity, often used in funerals. Maybe that's why the Peacekeepers in 12 didn't react as much because they know what the gesture actually means, instead of a sign of resistance what the other districts perceived like in 11.
You’re right. And good point, bc I’ve always wondered why the peacekeepers in 12 didn’t punish anyone like they did in district 11, when the old man did it.
Also the hand sign was also used at their reaping one year ago to the same situation. So there was already a precident set.
And to further this, the man in District 11 combined the gesture with the 4 tone melody which was from District 11. Combining both could heave the meaning of unity between the districts against the capitol, which the couldn't tolerate by any means. Idk. if they'd shot him if he only did the hand gesture
@@WhyneedanAliaswell in the last movie after Rue died, that sign did send 11 into a riot, maybe that's why the Capitol sees it as a rebellious gesture
@@WhyneedanAliassuch a good point!
I think another possible reason why they didn't shoot at the people in 12 was because it was Katniss's mother and sister who started it and, like Joanna said, if the capital laid a finger on Prim "forget the districts, there would be riots in the damn capital."
President Snow: being on the screen
Pudgey: "DISGUSTING!"
Nothing brings me more joy than Spartan watching the adventures of Peter and Candace
🤣😅
peeta "if it weren't for the baby" mellark. iconic man, a true legend
I dropped this on another reaction recently, but the reason that D12 was allowed to raise the three fingers sign without being shot on sight (like in D11) is because that symbol originates in D12. Book Katniss quote: "It is an old and rarely used gesture of our district, occasionally seen at funerals. It means thanks, it means admiration, it means goodbye to someone you love."
I think another possible reason why they didn't shoot at the people in 12 was because it was Katniss's mother and sister who started it and, like Joanna said, if the capital laid a finger on Prim "forget the districts, there would be riots in the damn capital."
The person that Katniss "hang" is Seneca Crane, the game maker from the first movie. It's a way of Katniss saying "You're next" to Plutarch Heavensbre (The New Game Maker)
Yep this. She is supposed to showcase her talent at that time. Peta used his artistic talent to paint a tribute to Rue on the floor. Upon seeing Rue, it reignited that anger in Katniss and she channeled that into showing Plutarch that her talent is beating/getting rid of the game maker..
I'm just here to represent for my boy Peeta. Gale can kick rocks and ask them if they love him for all I care. It drives me crazy that Gale makes Katniss feel like she owes him an explanation for her relationship with Peeta like she was unfaithful to him when she's never even thought of Gale romantically until he kissed her for the first time earlier in the movie. They are great friends but he has a bad habit of putting his feelings before her trauma and Peeta some how puts his trauma 2nd to her feelings the kid is a Saint.
I think everyone who actually understood their characters is on the same page as you. I don't hate Gale but good gosh, he got on my nerves
@@also_Caati Agreed. He would never surpass Peeta for me but I could've liked him alot more if he didn't bring up If Katniss loved him in every other scene and future stuff I want mention for spoiler reasons. I love the movies so much but this why I prefer the books because you can see what katniss is thinking in every situation. I also want a book from Peeta's perspective through the trilogy so badly. A three act book each act could cover 1 book.
You are a movie-only person, aren't you?
Yeah, that kissing scene was what tipped me into the "hating Gale" camp!
In the first movie, he TOLD Katniss to "do ANYTHING to survive"!
Kill fellow children? Fine. Torture them? Fine. Go full cannibal? Fine.
KISS another boy?!? Well, THAT is a "step too far"!
What a selfish hypocrite!
@@tilltronje1623 umm no I prefer the books way more. Gale acts the same way in the books.
“Did you hear? No, you’re yapping” LMAOOOOO just like me and my bf whenever we watch movies
🤣🤣
@@SpartanandPudgey Thresh was actually killed by Kato the movie just does a horrible job at showing that
@@smdownh9it’s cause in the movies Thresh is supposed to die from the mutts
Kudos to Spartan for picking up on Plutarch's subtle inconsistencies in what he says to Katniss vs. what he says to Snow. Philip Seymour Hoffman's performance is brilliant in leaving you completely in the dark about his true intentions. I never caught it my first time through, but when I paid more attention, I noticed it too, and his actions later in the films make so much more sense.
I think this was his last movie series as well
Small thing but: In the books, people in District 12 typically can't swim, because there are no bodies of water large enough to learn how to. Katniss ONLY knows how to swim because she and her father snuck out of the district fence to hunt, and he taught her in a lake out in the woods. As with the hunting, she only even has a chance to win because she has broken out of the system before. Additionally to not knowing how to swim, Peeta has a new prosthetic leg- in the books, Katniss has to tornique his leg from the wound and he eventually loses it. Finnick saves him from drowning (District 4 is coastal) and thus Katniss even considers trusting him at all.
2:08
That's a funny question because that is one of the main things these movies get wrong. In the books the main threat in the games is starvation. Katniss almost constantly thinks about her next meal and is close to starving at all times. That's why her destroying the supplies was so important. They obviously kill each other but hunger is far more prevalent and meant to show the districts how hard life would be without the capitol.
The movies focus only on the action
Now I finally get why its called the hunger games. I'm an idiot
Well there is another interpretation that should be obvious to anyone not only learning US history.
Panem et circensis or in English bread and circuses is a term for superficial appeasement of the population.
It originates from ancient Rome where emperors like Augustus or Trajan were criticised of tactically offering entertainments and cheap grain to appease the people... or were the people criticised for falling for that? Either or both.
Anyways this is why Collins chose Panem as the name of the post-apocalyptic US. And this is what is done with the games. They both appease the population of the capitol and in a different way the districts.
But they also uphold the illusion that the capitol held the power and control over distributing the resources of the districts among the districts instead of the districts fighting wach other over these resources.
It is implied that districts like 1 and 12, rich in ore and coal, would face hunger without the benevolent leadership of the capitol.
That being said the movies barely discuss the "fragile system", how Katniss calls it.
@@michaelklaus that is not "another" interpretation, that is literally the point of the trilogy. Manipulation of the populace through bread and circuses. Coupled with hefty media manipulation on both sides. The games are merely the backdrop for that, the killing is not the main point of the story
@tilltronje1623 well I didn't want to undermine you observation that starvation is a huge threat in the 74th hunger games by saying: "Ackchyually" 😅
And then people point to the prequel where starvation is also a major plot point but I would like to point out that Haymitch also notes other threats like exposure. So starvation was not meant as the main threat in the books before the prequel.
2:09 It’s called “Hunger Games” because every time you are hungry and buy food, you get a ticket to possibly be entered in the games. ✌🏾💜
Yes. Every district was literally starving. If they were harvesting food, they were not allowed to eat it. If they were mining, they were not allowed to trade it. The only ones that were not starving were the Victors (and they paid for that too), and those that played the "games", such as the Careers, who essentially gave up their lives to be killers, to be well fed. The whole of Panem is the Hunger Games that the Capital (Snow) played with the districts, not just in the arena.
@@angie-tq4ew It makes me think of North Korea.
@@pamelahofman1785 It makes you think of North Korea because you have been fed propaganda your entire life about the “evil Orient”.
You are more likely to see starving people sign up for a “fight-to-the-death” reality show in capitalist America than any other country lol.
wasnt it because the districts cut off the capitol's food supply during the war, and this is the capitol's way to pay it back?
You guys did a really good job of figuring out what was going on, especially that there was something off about the new gamemaker and that different tributes were protecting Katniss and Peeta. Many people reacting to this one fail to catch all the little hints that there was a plan that Katniss and Peeta didn't know about. Great attention to detail!!
Finnick and Joanna are my favorite new characters in this one. You'll find out more about Finnick's back story in the next one. He is a fan favorite.
Cinna's fate seemed to confuse you. He was punished because of that mockingjay costume he made for Katniss. That was seen as a middle finger to the Capital.
My boy Peeta most selfless character in this franchise❤️
Facts
The first time in the movie that Peeta’s amputation/new prosthetic affected the plot is when he falls during the interview. 8:58
Later he says “stop looking at me like I’m wounded”. He struggles in the arena because of his new disability (on top of being electrocuted). Peetas leg is so important to plot and characterization (not to mention representation), I wish the movies didn’t cut it.
Yeah some reactors think he’s “weak and/or useless” because of that missing context
He didn't even struggle though. Aside from the force field, he killed the guy in the water, killed a baboon jumping at Katniss and then saved her when one held her underwater.
On top of that he saved her from the fog which is why he got hit too
DISTRICT 1 : LUXURY
DISTRICT 2 : MASONRY
DISTRICT 3 : TECHNOLOGY
DISTRICT 4 : FISHING
DISTRICT 5 : POWER
DISTRICT 6 : TRANSPORTATION
DISTRICT 7 : LUMBER
DISTRICT 8 : TEXTILE
DISTRICT 9 : GRAINS
DISTRICT 10 : LIVESTOCK
DISTRICT 11: AGRICULTURE
DISTRICT 12: MINING
DISTRICT 13: MILITARY
22:53 It never dawned on me til now that this moment is probably where they got the recording of Prim screaming “Katniss” for the jabberjays to copy. This series is amazing. You can rewatch it several times and still pick up on minute details.
i think youre right! probably also used her screams from the first movie/reaping when katniss volunteers
OH FUUUUUUU- I never caught that. 👀
So when Haymitch won his game, it was the 50th anniversary and the 2nd Quarter Quell, which doubled the amount of tributes from each district that year.
^. And he beat the other remaining kid, a girl from d1 by ducking when she threw a axe at him, it ricochetes off the border of the arena, where Haymitch had led her. And it flew back and lodged into her head. Snow was pissed and had his gf, mother and brother killed for making them look like a fool. With his 'act of defiance'.
@@KPS2311 don't know if it was because of him using the arena in his advantage or to refuse being played after the Games like Finnick was.
I mean, both could be, but I don't see much sense in the first one, the second makes more sense why Snow would be pissed
as far as I understood Haymitch won the game without killing anyone...showing that that was possible and defying the Capitol- I guess that's why Snow was pissed@@Fenix-lr6ez
and they're making a movie out of it now!!!
You better understand Haymitch when you realize how many years he has been going through what Katniss and Peeta are now experiencing.
Pudgy is so smart. She catches on really well and 42:00 knows how to sympathise with the characters. Spartan as well
Spartan, I think you missed one important thing in the intros. You thought Finnick would leave Mags behind at the beginning. She was like his mother. She basically raised him.
It’s so funny to me how Katniss immediately knows what the spiel is. It’s such a struggle in the books. It takes them ages to figure it out as they all almost die from thirst since the ground water pools aren’t drinkable
“She said it was 12, maybe there’s like 12 sections or something.” Rare moment of Spartan brilliance.
He got more right than pudgy did with this series so far
Well, except for every time he says Carness lol@@Lilithly
@@avz1865lmaoo 😭
The people of the crowd were yelling "End the game!"
Yeah the thought of a hypothetical unborn child dying was suddenly abhorrent to them while having living children die in brutal ways over and over wasn’t. Sounds rather familiar…
@@abbiejo6822very familiar
@@abbiejo6822Anna Oop 👀
From watching Game of Thrones, i'm surprised it took to the second movie before they appreciated how Peeta can smoothly "play the game" to their/his advantage. He's been doing that since the beginning, even pre-game, Haymitch even saying to Katniss she can learn from him. This is really a dark satire of reality tv shows.
Super fun fact is that all of the Districts are land locked except for District 4 and fenced in so nobody is supposed to know how to swim. So they designed these games to give people as little of a chance from the beginning as possible. Katniss knows how to swim cause I believe her Dad taught her. Also most of them only have knowledge of survival from their games so if there wasn’t a jungle or water in their games they would be completely unprepared for this scenario and have minimal survival skills.
as someone living in a dictatorship, i can tell you that you can be killed for doing a hand symbol or just standing on the street for that matter
Im assuming you're in RU. I hope you're OK and find a way to be safe. "Know who the real enemy is"
@@KPS2311 not in russia, but in an equally horrible place (belarus). thank you. the entire hunger games franchise has been resonating a little too much lately.
@@yaninatatarnikova4822Few years back it truly seemed like the entire country rose up, so I’ve been thinking, if that did not succeed how can anyone expect to succeed. Seemed like all that was missing was for the police to stop working against it. And then ofc, Russia came in and practically took back Belarus into the “USSR”. Very sad!
As a Ukrainian American I send you nothing but love and solidarity and strength. ❤
i’m so sorry, i hope your people will be free soon ♥️♥️
You two are my favorites of all as reactors to films.
Both of you catch on quickly, remember details, put two and two together and almost always come up with four, and genuinely show your feelings and intelligence.
I really enjoy reading-watching films with you. Ty
The Cinna thing was awful in the books, and then she goes straight to the arena, which has water. In the book, the stakes are so much higher. Peeta has lost his leg, so he has a prostethic and he doesn't know how to swim. Almost no one in most districts does, because they are isolated from water. Except 4, which is fishing (Finnick and Mags' district). Maybe the training facilities for 1 and 2 also have swimming. But Katniss learned with her dad, just like hunting. He would teach her in a lake in the forest. Peeta can't swim, so he was actually trapped on his stage thingie. I think, to be a bit quicker with the scenes, they chose to have him swim and all, but in the book you can see her desperation, because she is determine to make Peeta the winner. Also, it's with him in the beach where she first feels hunger in regards to passion, when they are kissing. In the cave, it was for show. In the beach, for real. Another meaning to the word hunger, which is prominent in so many ways in the series.
The books are all narrated through Katniss' point-of-view, which is why it's hilarious at times. Because we see her doubt people, and judge them very wrongly (Peeta in the first, Finnick and Johanna in the second). There are a few hilarious moments, such as when Finnick goes to revive Peeta, she is confused as to why he is kissing him. She is a great narrator, because she doesn't trust anyone and she is not the most observant. She has no idea of any plot. Katniss never planned to defy the capitol, she genuinely just wanted to survive and go back to her sister. Her empathy though, it does wonders. Peeta helps, of course, and while he is also genuine, he is aware that those moves play to an audience, a thing that Katniss does not think when she does them.
I think I need to read the book
@@Laura.aurelia22pleaseeee do its soooo good you wont regret it, you get alot more insight into how katniss thinks and book peta is just 100/10
The reviving Peeta part was definitely funny! She almost killed Finnick because the first thing he did was plug Peeta's nose so Katniss thought she was trying to suffocate him and then thought he was kissing him lol
1:06:30 the baby talk was in attempt to cancel the games, since the Capitol audience, now in love with Katniss and Peeta would not want a child to die. This failed. Katniss never was pregnant. Cmon guys.
' since the Capitol audience, now in love with Katniss and Peeta would not want a child to die' does make little sense given The Capitols love of the games which is entirely about watching children die every year ^^
@@Wolfer1OOO children, not infants. Big difference
@@LuchoH838 still a child, which what your comment says... if you said baby or unborn kid maybe but when you just say child then it's the same ^^
It's also a bullshit argument anyway but hey, that's one of the fundamentals of the political right so still a relevant debate and a statement that makes sense for a dystopian society elite to be making, hate abortion but never want to care for the kid when it's actually born
This is my favourite of the movies.
Plutarch Heavensbee is a tactical genius.
RIP Philip Seymour Hoffman.
Epic all these years later and remains my favorite out of the franchise. What a rollercoaster.
Yeah, its eaasily the best one
Agreed! Best of the books and movies in my opinion
It's called 'the Hunger Games' because of the mechanism that you noted with Gale. The outer Districts who were part of the losing side of the Civil War of Pan Em are kept on rations of food that are designed to keep them hungry and weak. The only people who can get more food for their family are the children who are eligible for the Games. If they want to get more food rations, they put their name into the Reaping a second (third, fourth, ... forty-second time). In this way, no one in the Conquered Districts is able to eat enough to stay strong enough for armed resistance. And the only way that someone could legally get strong enough as an individual family would be to give up their child's life. Not really a hero the Districts can rally around, is it? Big man, willing to trade increased risk of your child's life being taken in the Reaping just so you can stuff your face each night while your neighbors starve. Not really a Robin Hood figure, eh? But Katniss is. She slips over the fence and comes back with her own food, separate from the Games system.
So why have children in a system like that? Why not just stop marrying and having offspring at all? Because kids eligible for the Reaping are the only way that you can get enough food to be even remotely healthy. And each time you do that, you risk more and more that your child will be the human sacrifice in that year's Hunger Games. Why?Because you and your family got hungry. Why? Because your ancestors dared to defy The Capital and the Inner Districts of Pan Em. How can you dare to have a child in that kind of world? But how can you survive if you don't?
Welcome to the 75th Annual Hunger Games.
I love this movie so much, Finnick is such a great character. Peeta, Katniss and Finnick make a great team (but Peeta is my favourite)
Plus Sam Claflin is so beautiful 😍
@@Hollygliindeed
Same here
When you talk about the foreshadowing, it was intentional - intended for Katniss. They were all in on the plan with Heavensbee and they were all dropping little clues for Katniss. There were even more in the book.
Random comment, but it's not necessarily that Katniss has gotten better with the bow (not saying she didn't) but the reason in the last movie that she didn't hit the target was because she's not used to the bow. She's been shooting with a simple hunting bow made of wood, and the one at the training centre is made of metal. Same with the arrows. The weight and strange feeling of it means it's not odd that her first shot was off. Instead, she shows how incredible her talent is by adjusting to the bow immediately after and hitting the bullseye.
Haymitches game was probably one of the scariest ones to me because his game was the 50th aka the second quarter quell and the special rule for that game was the contestants would be doubled so two male and female tributes from each district making the usual 24 contestants skyrocket up to 48 so he’s odds were even worst. He ended up winning but just like Katniss he won while making the Capitol look dumb in a sense because he uses the capitols forcefield as a weapon. It was him and one other tribute left, haymitch was about to die and he ran to the edge of the arena. The other tribute threw an axe at him but he ducked. The axe hit the forcefield and came back and killed the tribute allowing haymitch to win. The Capitol took this as defiance cause it made them look dumb that a tribute died not from haymitch but from their own creation so they killed haymitches family. That’s why he is a drunk. Haymitch and Lucy gray are the only other winners from district 12 beside katniss and peeta. In the books of catching fire Katniss and peeta watch haymitches game tape. His act of using the forcefield I think also gives her the idea of using the forcefield at the end of the movie with the lightning arrow
36:15 that “always with you” was actually really cute lol
No poor poor Gale Pudgey! LOL! He and Katniss were never a couple, not that Gale didn't think of it. Katniss only thought of him as a brother.
Movie gale is definitely set up as a romantic counter, even if book gale is not...
@@ygkemosabi8280the books are canon. The movies aren't.
@@ygkemosabi8280is he? ‘I had to do that just once’ you’d think if they were a couple that’s not something he’d say
Yes facts!
In the book, Katniss is dancing with the head games maker, Plutarch. In their dance conversation, he secretly show her a special pocket watch that he had made. When you rub your thumb across the crystal, it fades into the mockingjay symbol and then fades out again. That way no one can see it. Katniss didn’t understand. She just thought it was strange and went on hating him for being the head game maker. It was HIS token. He was trying to show her he was on her side but she didn’t get it. So everyone, including Heavensby, had a gold trinket that Effie said they all needed to prove they are in a group.
I love Joanna and Finnick's introductions. Him eating the horse's sugar cubes and her just stripping naked in the elevator for all to see. Really shows off their attitudes about being viewed as less than human.
i know they wouldntve be able to show it cuz ratings but i loveeee finnicks book introduction, the way katniss describes him and his outfit is hilarious
@@nope19568and tragic/gross once you read mockingjay
44:32 with yall’s Aussie accent I wouldn’t have even known Spartan said “Candace” and not “Katniss”🤷🏽♀️🤣 I 💜LOVE💜 yall’s accent💯💯💯
I didn’t feel much for Gale, he really played on Katniss’ guilt and wouldn’t even try to understand her side of things. Peeta always put her first.
Yesssss this!
Astounding reaction to Catching Fire! One of the reasons I love this sequel is how they showed us that even after winning, Katniss, Peeta, and the other victors were easily traumatized and scarred just from surviving the Games. I love the fact it still shows how Katniss’ sacrifice inspired not just people in the Districts but people also in the Capitol as well. Effie is the prime example for change in the Capitol. Before, she just did her job and didn’t care about tributes because there was no guarantee that they’d survive. However with Katniss and Peeta, she came to not only care for them, but she even started to open herself to up and started to see the flaw in the system. Now even she is starting to rebel against the Capitol. Also Joanna’s sneak peak scene is one my fave scenes, especially for the fact that she winks at Hamish. The revelation of Heavensbee’s loyalty to Katniss and the rebellion was so amazingly surprising as they showed him being a masterminded game maker and used President Snow’s lust for revenge on Katniss as a pawn in the ultimate game of deception. I can’t wait for the Mockingjay reactions!!!! Also if you loved Phillip Seymore, I must recommend you to check out his movie Twister with Helen Hunt and Bill Paxton. 🏹🔥❤️❤️🔥
21:56 Haymitch is a past winner. They called this year‘s games a quarter quell that means that every 25 years there is a special games held that year. Haymitch won the games for the second quarter quell. That year twice as many tributes were reaped. So there were 48 tributes that year.
1) People are quick to hate on District 1, but it's important to remember that they are victims too. Each district is tortured a different way. In district 1 they are expected/required to live in opulence and excess or be punished for being unappreciative. They know that most other districts are starving, but they are made to/expected to eat to the point of making themselves sick and pretending they are happy about it instead of having the district share with the others. When they don't fall in line they get turned into the capital and made into Avoxes (people that are tortured and then have their tongues cut out and forced into servitude) or worse...mutts. Think of Effie, woman that draws the tributes' names at the reaping. Her and the TV host, Caesar Flickerman, ...they have a job to do and that is to make these grotesque moments FEEL like entertainment or else. EVERYONE is scared, even the Presidents' own family members. The games are NOT "entertainment" to anyone. The citizens of Panem are ALL terrified of their government because they know the grotesque and twisted things it does to people. They watch the games because they wanna see their people and try to support them if/when they can. Being a sponsor demands a lot of money so the sponsor gifts are rare, but people try. You have to watch the games to see what will be needed. In this book the people of District 1 were ALL angry that the Victors were being put into the games; they weren’t cheering happily like in the movie.
2) Haymitch was one of District 12's winners. He's an alcoholic because he was a winner when he was 16 and since then has been required to be the mentor of countless tributes only to see them ALL die for nearly 24 years. He’d won his Games by using the force field against the Capitol. Though it was a Capitol creation, Haymitch was able to use it to his advantage and win the Games with it. The Victors receive income from the Capitol for life, are given a special status in their districts and are allowed to live in the wealthiest part of their district called the Victors' Village with their families. Their District is given supplies of food and other things to survive, while the lone victor (except of The 74th Hunger Games since there is 2 victors) is bathed in riches. Most of them become very popular all throughout all of Panem. The Capital, however, can summon victors whenever they want and make demands on them. This is clarified later and in more detail later.
Spartan having a more than basic understanding of this arena and uses every word but "clock" to describe it yet seems shocked when they call it "a clock".😂 I was thinking "Dude, you impressively figured that out 30 minutes ago!🤦
So the quarter Quell took place every 25 years where there would be special rules put into place. The envelopes were kept in a wooden box to be opened before the reaping at these quarter-century games. The first one that took place, 25th Hunger Games, instead of a random drawing for the reaping, the citizens of each district were required to vote on who would "represent" their district. For the 50th Hunger Games, they selected 4 people from each district instead of the normal 2. This being the 75th year, President Snow pulled the "sealed envelope" but in reality it would be written into play by the current president to best inflict fear/gain control at the time of the drawing.
Also, in regards to the Mockingjay, the symbol itself draws its meaning from history, back in the days of the initial rebellion, the capital created Jabberjays, which were able to mimic any sound or words they heard. They are the birds that mimicked the screaming in the games here. Jabberjays were used to collect information on rebel plans, but when the rebels learned of this tactics, they began to feed the capital false information and so won a victory on that front. The capital knowing that their Jabberjays were unreliable bred them out of existence with mockingbirds, thus the mockingjay became a symbol of victory, whether large or small.
Love the reactions yall, keep it up!
In the war, the capitol used lab raised mockingbirds to spy on the rebels because they could remember and replay whole conversations. Soon the rebels found out tho and used the birds to spread misinformation to trick the capitol about their whereabouts and this is how the mockingbird became a rebels symbol, which was refined 74yrs later when catniss wore the pin in the hungergames and played the capitol with her and Peters attempted suicide
The capital made jabberjays, mockingbirds actually exist. The jabberjays mated with mockingbirds to create mockingjays in the books. That's why mockingjays are used as a symbol of rebellion, they're something the capital never intended to create, that exists outside of their control.
@@barbara832001 yeah right :D
It's been such a long time since I've read the books
@@shawtystrange7531 I just reread them, it's pretty fresh on my mind.
The 50th Hunger Games was the year of the second Quarter Quell, held 24 years before the start of the trilogy. The victor was Haymitch Abernathy from District 12. Coriolanus Snow read off a card that was left 50 years ago by the original creators of the Games, stating that as a reminder that two rebels died for every Capitol citizen, twice the number of regular tributes were to be sent into the Games: two girls and two boys per district, for a total of 48
On the 25th anniversary, as a reminder to the rebels that their children were dying because of their choice to initiate violence, every district was made to hold an election and vote on the tributes that who would represent it.
For this particular film, I recommend rewatching it with the knowledge that Plutarch is orchestrating everything to keep Katniss safe (and tries to let her know in his wording), and also that there are Victors hinting about being on the side of the Rebellion. It makes a lot of sneaky details more obvious on a second watch!
In the book, Plutarch Heavensbee shows Katniss his new pocket watch, which has a holographic mockingjay symbol. This both symbolizes that he’s on her side and also clues her in on the nature of the arena (being a clock).
True. But, although she reflects on it, and puzzled over it a bit, she doesn't pick up on the clue, until later.
@@angie-tq4ew It clues the reader/audience in more than it does Katniss. 🙂
22:49 the three fingers in the air with your left hand is a district 12 sign of respect and goodbye. it’s a sign of respect shown at a funeral. Hence why Katniss put up the sign for Rue in the games last year.
“How do you die for doing a hand signal?” I mean look at gang members 😂
I'm so glad you're both watching this. I LOVE your reactions but don't get into a lot of the shows/movies you react to, so I don't get to tune in often. But I'm always thrilled when you watch something more up my alley! Loving how immersed you both are in this series!!
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Dying for a hand symbol makes sense actually. Remember, a man can die but never his ideas or beliefs if spread like fire. Hence catching fire
Not Pudgey already breaking down at the District 11 scene while Mockingjay Part I and II are right around the corner... This woman might need therapy after this journey is over. :D
She was amazing in Silver linings playbook too. One of my fav movies.
Loved that movie.
Head gamemaker is just the lead guy in charge THAT year. Seneca Crane was the Head GM last year.
If you watch the latest film made, the prequel Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes, youll learn a whole lot about who was involved in the earlier/origin story of the HG and their design.
Last name of Prominent people in the capitol that were around then that have characters in these ones; Heavensbee, Crane, Snow, Flickerman.
You guy should write down a cheat sheet of names/face for each character you have met so far. Itll make your reflection talks easier. :)
Hunger games is for me the best book adaptation I’ve ever seen. You guys said everything, you 15 minutes in it and the emotion, specially the pain, is THERE. You feel it, it makes you hate the Capitol without even needing to see much of them actually.
By the way, no one told Peeta and Katniss about the plan because they knew none of them would agree with people sacrificing themselves like that for them. Peeta volunteered to avoid Haymich going in, and Katniss volunteered in the place of her sister, it’s simply not their characters. They are the ones willing to sacrifice themselves, so they needed to be left out in the dark.
And the Mockingjay is because she had the pin in the first game. People saw it with her when she was taking care of Rue’s body for example and automatically made it a symbol.
agree, I feel like it is one of the few franchises based on books that the movies actually surpass them. 1 & 2 are basically on the same level as the books, but the 3rd book is a downgrade imo, while the movies keep it up really good.
Krane was the game maker in the first movie, who was killed for his failure.
The significance of the mockingjay is explained in the books: a jabberjay (the birds that mimicked her sister in the games) were used in the war before the first hunger games. They were used for spying, but the rebels ended up using them to spread false information. Its considered an embarrassment and a failure. The Mockingjay is a bird that resulted from jabberjays mating with mockingbirds.
Cinna giving her the dress that turns into a Mockingjay is a rebel symbol, which is what got him killed
Cinna died for supporting Katniss
And making that symbolic dress
@@elizabethstrong6057 yep that too, Snow hated it.
Drinking game: Every time they say "Disgusting" take a shot.
No thanks; I like having a healthy liver. 😁
Another one of my favorite reaction channels dropped catching fire just yesterday so Im loving getting this double feature reaction situation!
hannah and ash eh? lol yeah same I love how sometimes my favorite reactors all do the same material around the same time
SYMBOLISMS
Hannah and Ash / Spartan and Pudgey are definitely some of the best reactors! Love the aussies lol
Just realized this came out on my 16th birthday and now I feel old.
We have the same birthday! Unfortunately I’m a year older than you 🙃🎉♏️
I was 13 😂
I don’t remember exactly how old I was but I think it was grade seven…. I think?
I love watching reactors that actually pay attention and can see where the movie is going ❤ u guys are super observant and intuitive I love it lol
imo this is the best book adaption ever
Seneca Crane was last year's game maker. Cinna was Katniss stylist. He was new to the games in the first season. 12 was always seen as the lowest, poorest district. No one wanted to be the stylist or escort. The old stylist used to dress them in miners' costumes, or like lumps of coal. Cinna really brought something new with the "girl on fire" costume. This made Katniss more popular.
i love the fact that shes like "poor poor Gale" not knowing whats coming
29:30 This movie is the perfect analogy of the modern pro-life movement. That crowd had zero issue with literal children (like Rue) being murdered… until a fetus was involved.
3:26 - Pudgey's face dropped so quickly. 🤣🤣
Spartan, you were incredibly quick in picking this up from the movie 1:05:15!! It is obvious in the book because it's Katniss POV and you get told it, but I always thought it is a bit harder to see this in the movies.
Also, welcome to team Peeta (you couldn't hide it)
Team Peeta forever❤
Haymitch is a past winner. He won the 50th Hunger Games (the Second Quarter Quell) where there were double the amount of tributes. Each Quarter Quell had a special twist to the games. The First Quarter Quell the districts had to have an election to choose their tributes. The Second Quarter Quell had double the number of tributes. The Third the tributes were past victors (though it is implied that it was changed to get Katniss into the arena again as she was the only living female victor from district 12).
I love the way it looks like you guys are discovering what a totalitarian state is :') bless your hearts
1.The previous Quarter Quell's were just as messed up as this one. The first Quell, the districts has to hold elections to vote who'd they'd send into the area, and for the second Quell they had to pay double the amount of tributes. Those were the Games Haymitch won. A friend of Katniss's mother went that year, too, and survived to the last few.
2. I have a personal fan theory that Cashmere and Gloss's parents were Hunger Games winners, too.
It's rare that a second or third character is my favorite one, but Haymitch is right at the top. "Girl wake up, this trip doesn't end when you get back home... you never get off this train" and then "There are no victors, only survivors". This makes you understand why he is the way he is. The propaganda makes everyone believes that if you win the hunger games, you get to live the rest of your life in peace. That you only have to go out once a year to give a hand to the kids when they get reaped but after that, you live a life of luxury. That is not true. Like Joanna says "There's no one left that I love" because the Capital uses your loved ones you keep you in check. They threaten what you hold dear to basically make a slave out of you. So the real winners of the Hungers Games are the other 23 tributes... because at least they are free now
Seneca Crane was the previous gamemaker who was forced to commit suicide by eating the poison berries. The Capital killed him. That's what Katniss meant with her hanging figure.
I have rewatched this movie many times and also seen so many reactions. But I just realized that when they visit Rue's district, her father isnt standing up with the mom and 4 kids...because he was obviously killed. Small little detail but I never realized it. Not only did their family lose Rue...but also the father. So sad :/
1:53 there’s actually 5 movies: a prequel released last year.
Also, Donald Sutherland (plays President Snow) absolutely commands any scene he’s in
They do quarter quell every 25 years. Haymitch won in the 50th hunger games which is the 2nd quarter quell and that time they doubled the amount of tributes. They reaped 2 girls and 2 boys each district making them 48 instead of 24
I know alot of people are surprised by how much better katniss and peeta are at battling in these games, and it's because in the books, after they are told they would be going back in the games, peeta started training and whipping katniss and haymitch into shape before the reaping.
Yeah I like the movies, but I think Peeta especially isn’t shown to full potential since a lot of his personality and moments like that is cut out so people tend to think he’s weak. especially since they also cut out him losing a leg which is also a reason why being in the games again would be extra challenging to him
It wasn't shown in the movie but in the book Plotarch shows Katniss hi watch and it has a hidden mocking Jay symbol on the watch face. So I knew from the that he was playing President Snow.
Funny thing is, the Capital are the ones who gave the symbols - the Mockingjay, the whistle, and the hand signals - so much power by reacting to it so strongly. By executing the old man in District 11 who saluted Katniss, they were showing that the salte really is against the capital. They were broadcasting that there is movement against the capital happened. It ironically would have been less of a big thing if they hadn't outwardly reacted
That “I’m dumb face” you make is great. Keep it up xD
Give that editor a raise!!! I loved the funny bits 💟💟
Darn Spartan and Pudgey. Not the deepest movie ever but you guys NAILED it! From the beginning, almost every clue which took most of us several watches and post-knowledge info to catch. Well done guys! :-) - PS: Pudgey "I'm not havin' it! Nah!" Ha! :-)
Ya, it's like they've already seen the movies🤔🤔
Once I realized the anthem that is constantly playing in the background has lyrics, every time I hear the melody in these movies I want to sing the lyrics along and I love it xD
My guess on why they call it the hunger games is that the more food you take the more times you get entered in the lottery to get picked. Her friend Gale said he got entered like 45 times because he kept taking extra food.
No Gale is not poor, he’s a guy who thinks a girl belongs to him because he’s her closest friend. Katniss is free to be with whoever she wants, she owes him nothing, they weren’t dating before the games.
Almost at 100k! You both deserve it!.
We love you, Pudgey, crying or otherwise! Hello, subscribers! Loving both of your reactions - we'll get Spartan to shed full-on tears one day!!!
"what's the this damn wrinkle?!" I'm dyyyying lol
'been waiting for this!
This is my favorite sequel of Hunger games.. Thanks for uploading this reaction. Love from the PH 🇵🇭❤
PEETA IS LITERALLY AN ANGEL FROM THE HEAVENS THAT WE DON'T DESERVE ❤❤
YES❤
The hand salute is a symbol of unity
Nah screw Gale. He and his one sided feelings acting like he has some ownership over katniss and trying to make her feel guilty for doing what she had to to survive. He’s a tool.
100%
Exactly!!
Your reaction is the reaction I connected the most with. I appreciated that you recognized how messed up the system was, its impact and meaning. Don’t stop reminding us :) and thank you for not doing what many reactors & YT commentators focus on: make the story about being on a Peeta/Gale team (you talked about the dynamics of Katniss & G & P within the context, brilliant!! Thank you!) or clamor for a Haymitch/Finnick story ignoring what it means (i.e., watching kids kill kids & eventually become numb to it). By doing that, they fail to see they are participating & reveling in the distractions the story talks about & proving Snow & Coin right: Panem (which means Bread & Circuses) is what people want while the system continues to take advantage of them. Collins was reluctant to write the prequel & doesn’t want to continue the series for those reasons. Thank you for your honest reactions!
Pudgey’s face when Snow walked into the room, lol. You looked like you wanted to reach through the screen, lol!
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