The DCT470 is 2 separate 3 speed manual transmissions in one housing that pre selects the next gear by throttle position, brake position and RPM momemtum and changes gears using 2 separate hydroelectronically controlled CLUTCHES, not a torque convertor on an automatic transmission. Every MR video on UA-cam is peppered with comments saying "why auto" or "5 speed is better" but the reality of it is that the TC-SST was the pinnacle of the Evo X and there isn't one situation where pushing a clutch in manually and shifting manually is better. On the same track, the MR beats the GSR by 1 sec or more and that is just cold, hard facts kids. A GSR runs at 90 mph @ 3800 RPM, the MR at the same speed runs at 3200 RPM. There are no situations that the 5 speed is better other than the cost of ownership, which is subjective.
Soy Nobody lol sti spec c type rar s201 202 litchfield type 25 SC400 cosworth all well able to match any evo couched at it ,,,, but your probably American so noting exists out side of Murcia
It's too bad that a company as massive as Mitsubishi can't manage to build anything interesting.. The Evo was definitely an achievement, but I can't help but think they could have done better. Considering how little R&D time they seemed to spend on the rest of their line
Mitsubishi pushed the dual-clutch automatic gearbox so hard, lots of people didn't know the Evo X came with anything else. And I really felt like I had *settled* when I got mine with a 5-speed. The more I hear from dual-clutch owners and see videos like this, the more I like my 5-speed.
Why Cant We Americans have Driving Shows like this? These guys are awesome I mean fucking Awesome. What a bold ass move in the Subi. Wow I was on the edge of my seat. I love this Show.
The people who play with these things, tell me the Scooby-doo is a fairly nice car when you turn up the boost a bit, but the EVO-10 is a work of art. As standard cars, they're fairly close, but if you spend the same ten grand (or eight or whatever) on go fast stuff, particularly if you mostly just up the boost, the EVO is an absolute gem. You can double the hp and it continues to work exactly the same as the standard car. If you think that's normal for tuned cars (or bikes) then you haven't done much tuning....
That wasn't even the FQ400. You ain't gonna turn up no boost in this one though. Sorry, no 4g63 in this EVO. Besides, he was kicking the ass end around for fun. Almost like the tires were for the dry. Either way the EVOs have always been faster, ever since the 6. The 8 MR will always be my favorite, real work of art. Yes, I drive an 06 WRX. Should have been allies all along, fuckin fanboys ruin everything.
Magazine writers and TV reviewers test whatever the manufacturers send them, and have to give enough positive reviews that manufacturers will keep sending them stuff. For a while Mitsubishi was *only* loaning out dual-clutch automatic cars to the press. Most reviews were unconditionally positive, and the press found different creative ways to kiss up to Mitsubishi. Zillions of people missed the one line per article that said a 5-speed was standard equipment.
I understand people complaining about the Evo being auto and it's unfair to compete against a manual subaru but what people need to understand also is that the Evo in this video is a FQ400 and the Subaru is a standard STI. This is also an unfair matchup. The FQ400 is a more powerful and expensive version of the standard evo and to be fair it had to be competed against a similar customised version of the subaru, which is the S series. So all in all it was somehow a fair battle.
I hated the Evo;s auto gearbox. It's good when you're doing track style driving, but a pita otherwise. I had the STI that came after this one and that was just a joy to drive.
4:52 reminds me the time I drifted my moms 2001 renault laguna 1.9 dci on a steep downhill course in heavy rain. Passed a car just like that mid corner cuz I was hurrying home
just for Jason's overtake I vote the sti the better car. cars like this should make their drivers pull off crazy feats and that one proves it's rally upbringing.
The evo can put perform an sti everywhere it’s just that there’s a weird love for Scoobies it’s weird but they’re just more desirable even the though evo’s are my limited
@@daltonsikhosana8275 I can understand the whole Subau thing with the boxer engine and the Symmetrical AWD but Mitsubishi's S-AWC system on Gravel mode can surpass it as Gravel mode should distribute power 50/50 if I recall.
Before buying my car I got to drive an Evo X and a 2011 WRX STI sedan. While the Evo was fun I didn't like the feel of the 5 speed. Also, the suspension made a loud bang when you stamp the brakes at low speed. The STI was great on the other hand. The turbo spool and recirc sound was quiet but the exhaust note was amazing. They were both used but the STI had lower miles and was stock. It cost more but I went with the Subie and don't regret it for a single day. I still like Evos but my heart lies with the 6 stars.
This old dude is probably why Mitsubishi discontinued the EVO. The FQ360 is one of the more brutal reiteration's of the EVO. He made it seem like a slug
Evo lost cause of the transmission and lack of driver skills. Everyone knows Evo is a demon. They should put the Manual Transmission and a high-skilled driver.
Should have both been manual transmission, but as compared, the Subaru won the race and blew away the Evo in the slalom test - and was clearly a lot more fun to drive - so how could they pick the Evo???
Have the lanser evolution over the Subaru anyday had the the evolution fq360 best car I've ever owened in the older shape not a fan of the evolution 10
I love the way that guy drove the subaru
Same here, that Subaru is a beast of a car
@@seanflynn8467 ya
Drifting is the best way
Yeah he really wrung that out!
He is called Jason Plato
Every now and again I keep coming back to this video just to see Jason drifting that Subaru! So satisfying to watch!
4:52 Exactly how Takumi would have done it.
❤
Kind of dumb they had an automatic Evo.
Zack Pinkerton true
IHaveNoName FQ360 only came as a manual so that Evo is a FQ300 SST
James Allen yes precisely lol
Dumb dont know how to launch dct
Not an auto....(-_-)..look at the steering wheel....smfh
I really miss tiff vs Jason they did some of the best things on Fifth gear
I like Evo X and Subaru.. the Evo should have been manual
EVO are overrated!
Me too.
Manual vs manual not auto vs manual wtf
Kevinson Calixte bf
That subie is tokyo drift
4:48 initial d like overtake haha
The DCT470 is 2 separate 3 speed manual transmissions in one housing that pre selects the next gear by throttle position, brake position and RPM momemtum and changes gears using 2 separate hydroelectronically controlled CLUTCHES, not a torque convertor on an automatic transmission. Every MR video on UA-cam is peppered with comments saying "why auto" or "5 speed is better" but the reality of it is that the TC-SST was the pinnacle of the Evo X and there isn't one situation where pushing a clutch in manually and shifting manually is better. On the same track, the MR beats the GSR by 1 sec or more and that is just cold, hard facts kids. A GSR runs at 90 mph @ 3800 RPM, the MR at the same speed runs at 3200 RPM. There are no situations that the 5 speed is better other than the cost of ownership, which is subjective.
4:52 Holy crap that was a clean drift!!!!!!!!!
Deja-vu
Ive never seen anyone drive a sti this good before holy shit
Thats impressive hes drifting the sti! Pretty good driving :)
dude sti is 265 ps this is enought to do much more
dude everybody's 600bhp when it's raining!
That's Jason Plato for you.
Sti has manual evo x got automatic which is pretty insane to drift
Imprezzive :))
Love his driving skills in the Subaru
Omg evo almost did a 180° and still caught it back ...now that rally driving
Got to love this old battle. Now Subaru needs to step it up with the Ford Focus RS and Audi RS3 being such awesome contenders.
Soy Nobody evos dead man get over it
Soy Nobody yeah but your in America and the sti are Shit compared to the edm sti or jdm sti
Soy Nobody lol sti spec c type rar s201 202 litchfield type 25 SC400 cosworth all well able to match any evo couched at it ,,,, but your probably American so noting exists out side of Murcia
Ford?? Audi??????? Learn about cars kiddo.
loOOooO sorry bud but I will
Never drive an sti.
It's too bad that a company as massive as Mitsubishi can't manage to build anything interesting.. The Evo was definitely an achievement, but I can't help but think they could have done better.
Considering how little R&D time they seemed to spend on the rest of their line
The only thing fifth gear did better than prime top gear was the fact they had actual good drivers
Mitsubishi pushed the dual-clutch automatic gearbox so hard, lots of people didn't know the Evo X came with anything else. And I really felt like I had *settled* when I got mine with a 5-speed.
The more I hear from dual-clutch owners and see videos like this, the more I like my 5-speed.
SST destroys manual on track on motorway on fuel economy. Pretty much on anything
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@@Skyrocket888 SST also destroys itself once you go over 550AWHP on the engine.
@TriMuXx just needs a clutch upgrade see Kozmic motorsports lol
STI vs Evo is a real battle all of time !!!
I hope some day Mitsubishi will produce an Evo again.
No.. EVO suck big time!
Why Cant We Americans have Driving Shows like this? These guys are awesome I mean fucking Awesome. What a bold ass move in the Subi. Wow I was on the edge of my seat. I love this Show.
Why not put the mit in manual mode for the first test
Damn.....I want to drive like that Subaru driver
This was years ago before @lovecars episode of Subie vs Evo.
Tiff still prefers Evo's until this day xD
Manual Evo that is
04:54 Nani !? Kansei Dorifto !!??
The people who play with these things, tell me the Scooby-doo is a fairly nice car when you turn up the boost a bit, but the EVO-10 is a work of art. As standard cars, they're fairly close, but if you spend the same ten grand (or eight or whatever) on go fast stuff, particularly if you mostly just up the boost, the EVO is an absolute gem. You can double the hp and it continues to work exactly the same as the standard car. If you think that's normal for tuned cars (or bikes) then you haven't done much tuning....
Kneedragon1962 ur right. the evo is amazing to tune. the weakness is the gearbox. with mine i was running 450whp and my piston rings blew lol. :(
Kneedragon1962 yeah right it's sooooo amazing that it has been discontinued
And? The '80s have also been discontinued, and I was rather fond of them too...
That wasn't even the FQ400. You ain't gonna turn up no boost in this one though. Sorry, no 4g63 in this EVO. Besides, he was kicking the ass end around for fun. Almost like the tires were for the dry. Either way the EVOs have always been faster, ever since the 6. The 8 MR will always be my favorite, real work of art. Yes, I drive an 06 WRX. Should have been allies all along, fuckin fanboys ruin everything.
Spend 10k on an E92 BMW N54- bye bye Evo-
I never thought I'd say it but fifth gear is now better than topgear
Yeah, but the Grand tour is now better than the two :D Well, top gear is pretty much nothing now, with those 3 dumb ass ...
no its not, its for thick media brainwashed fools
Ulrich Grand tour is top gear 5th gear has proper talent drivers
i miss the Evos :(
*Evo Everyday*
But seriously, why get an automatic evo?
Completely stupid
Manual evo are so fast
@@Excepticus No it isn't, the gear change is quicker but under power the manual is quicker. Theres a race on that Japanese channel I forgot the name.
Everyone! It's a DCT automatic transmission or paddle shift its just like manual
There isn't such a thing as an evo with an automatic 😂 Noobs confusing it with a Dual clutch DCT trans 😂
Impressive driving skills!
Why would you use an automatic evo? That's not even an actual match up. Evos do have a 5 speed option.
Magazine writers and TV reviewers test whatever the manufacturers send them, and have to give enough positive reviews that manufacturers will keep sending them stuff.
For a while Mitsubishi was *only* loaning out dual-clutch automatic cars to the press. Most reviews were unconditionally positive, and the press found different creative ways to kiss up to Mitsubishi. Zillions of people missed the one line per article that said a 5-speed was standard equipment.
Mitsubish never made an auto evo? They made a DCT one but not an auto?
4:49 When the Eurobeat kicks too hard
I understand people complaining about the Evo being auto and it's unfair to compete against a manual subaru but what people need to understand also is that the Evo in this video is a FQ400 and the Subaru is a standard STI. This is also an unfair matchup. The FQ400 is a more powerful and expensive version of the standard evo and to be fair it had to be competed against a similar customised version of the subaru, which is the S series. So all in all it was somehow a fair battle.
That Evo has DCT automatic transmission can shift easier , faster , better
Subie looked a lot more fun! XD
yes but in reality it is not so . 🤣
The GSR in EVO X GSR stands for "Grand Sport Rally" that's all I want to say about manuall version.
I have one it's awesome.
Evo all day!
when your feeling your best watch one of these, certainly helps 😀👍
Ooh, it was an Awesome Race between Mitsubishi Evo X against Subaru WRX
STI WON AGAIN! BRAAVO!
Gyo Quino yeah yeah you can have all the excuses
Gyo Quino Evo had how much hp?
Evo 315hp. Sti 280
I'm telling you people, I like evo's but I'm not impressed mod for mod. Granted I only raced them from a roll with my sti
Shawn Moses Evo is a FQ300 so has 291bhp
"Не важно что у машины под капотом, самое главное это то кто сидит за рулём" P.s. Винь Дизель (Форсаж 8, гонка на кубе)
хахаха , ага)))
It couldn't be a British car show without rain.
why are these videos always terrible quality and so dark.
it's called ..UK ...and British weather and quality :-D
Damn I love Subaru sti
I hated the Evo;s auto gearbox. It's good when you're doing track style driving, but a pita otherwise. I had the STI that came after this one and that was just a joy to drive.
why not manual evo ?
which is ever car is better aside, driving them like that looks so much fun!!!
They never made an fq360 in the sst. Its a 300 or 330.
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Both are Dream cars
Which one is faster ? Subaru and evo?
4:52 reminds me the time I drifted my moms 2001 renault laguna 1.9 dci on a steep downhill course in heavy rain. Passed a car just like that mid corner cuz I was hurrying home
We all know the driver on the EVO is a Subaru fan... the real comparison is on top gear
Automatic vs Manual, Sedan vs Hatchback. Not a fair match
The trans I agree
But these are what were offered at the time so
Bring back Fifth Gear, I need a proper car show not some over scripted gimmicky horse shit.
18T220 be the sponsor mate 👍🏻
Series and episode?
When you're a car show presenter but don't know the car has launch control...
handbrake turn on an auto, can u just put it to neutral -> turn -> D/M and go right away?
4:05 The Mitsubishi Evo driver is crap at drifting, compared to the Subaru the Subaru did the most smoothest drift I've ever seen.
I agree
just for Jason's overtake I vote the sti the better car. cars like this should make their drivers pull off crazy feats and that one proves it's rally upbringing.
gr8 video but unfair for the evo it has to be manual to
It only depends on who's behind the wheel
Plato going dafty just like in touring cars!
Evo has launch control last I checked but ya know
way u not using a manual vs a manual ????????????????????????
Subaru strong at pulling and offroad but Mitsubishi very good at highway
Are you sure it's an FQ360? I thought they only came with a 5 speed manual.
klausnikski And I thought the 360 has a carbon fiber front lip..
AFAIK the SST was only fitted to the 300
Subies will still have the most love. and I bet that evo couldn't take the subie on a dirt track
As an ex-Mitsubishi technician, the Evo could actually outperform the STi on dirt
The evo can put perform an sti everywhere it’s just that there’s a weird love for Scoobies it’s weird but they’re just more desirable even the though evo’s are my limited
@@daltonsikhosana8275 I can understand the whole Subau thing with the boxer engine and the Symmetrical AWD but Mitsubishi's S-AWC system on Gravel mode can surpass it as Gravel mode should distribute power 50/50 if I recall.
Before buying my car I got to drive an Evo X and a 2011 WRX STI sedan. While the Evo was fun I didn't like the feel of the 5 speed. Also, the suspension made a loud bang when you stamp the brakes at low speed. The STI was great on the other hand. The turbo spool and recirc sound was quiet but the exhaust note was amazing. They were both used but the STI had lower miles and was stock. It cost more but I went with the Subie and don't regret it for a single day. I still like Evos but my heart lies with the 6 stars.
why these guys are not in the new top gear
The EVO should of been a manual to make it even
You can drive it as a manual tho, either using paddles or shift lever. The manual version on has 5 speed.
Manual Evo would have murdered the Imprezza.. Great cars though
you should use the paddle shifter
2:37 EVO OWNERS BE LIKE
Hahaha 🤣🤣 i have a 06 lancer but thats funny
1:38 that laugh :D
Evo still the best track car even though the handbrake turn was a mess.
This old dude is probably why Mitsubishi discontinued the EVO. The FQ360 is one of the more brutal reiteration's of the EVO. He made it seem like a slug
Evo lost cause of the transmission and lack of driver skills. Everyone knows Evo is a demon. They should put the Manual Transmission and a high-skilled driver.
You can put it in manual mode though so that doesn't make sense
The Evo seems a very focusing car.. wow
I love Impreza coz of performance and technology but Evo win for interior and exterior design..
Surely the Subaru has 300 ft lbs not 300nm no? My STi had 305hp and 295ft lbs/400nm
I think u should use the evo 9 instead of the evo 10
why?
Почему кузова разные?
that short sti is dope
3:08 -3:11 Kermit the frog would be proud 😭😭😭
mitsubishi's ayc is best, but mated to an auto gearbox? not a fair competition
Sti for life
My question is how the dude in top gear not finesse the Subaru as good as his dude did
Castle Combe surface is a low grade tarmac - no wonder they are slipping all over the shop.
Tarmac done on the cheap for cash lol
Co to za nędzna podróba top geara?
Where's mazda?
Traditionally Evo's have always been a few seconds faster than STI's or WRX's even in video games like Forza Motorsport 3.
Not in Gran Turismo 6
I like both cars
This shape of Subaru is horrible what was Subaru thinking. Didn't no that evo came in automatic manual would of kicked it's ass
When people try to copy top gear..
Should have both been manual transmission, but as compared, the Subaru won the race and blew away the Evo in the slalom test - and was clearly a lot more fun to drive - so how could they pick the Evo???
I'm conclusion everyone!.. dont use an auto vs. stick in this type of test 👌
Where was the auto used in this video? DCT you mean?
fq360 is manual only as far as i know and destroys stock scoobies, this is either the 300/330sst, i would guess the 300.
The model l like Mitsubishi then Subaru
It’s an automatic (paddles right next to his fingers)
Have the lanser evolution over the Subaru anyday had the the evolution fq360 best car I've ever owened in the older shape not a fan of the evolution 10
Subaru number 1💪🏆🥇
could've got the stick Evo X
he just overtook that evo initial D style haha