Your fantasy is a trap. The truth about maladaptive daydreaming

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  • @vickygraham2444
    @vickygraham2444 5 місяців тому +90

    When Im bored, compulsively start living in a dream world. Happened my whole life. Constructive way to deal with it is reading an educational non fiction book

  • @adamdabbs7353
    @adamdabbs7353 20 днів тому +8

    as an artist, I've struggled with maladaptive daydreaming my whole life and often rationalized it as being a part of my creative process - but after a year long depressive episode where I was making no art and spending hours every day in fantasyland I realized it was making me so much less actually productive. I want to find a balance between using this ability to construct compelling narratives without being consumed by them, but it's something I rarely hear other animators/ comic artists / script writers / directors discuss!

  • @lizb941
    @lizb941 5 місяців тому +62

    It is very important to notice what are our triggers… for me it is music 🎶 I can daydream for hours and hours, sometimes for days… I start a story in my head and as hours and days goes on, I live a completely different life than my current life. In my head, I have been married a thousand times to the man I love and he doesn’t even know that 😥 I am stopping to listen to music to help myself and I am working on my focus as well. Thank you for this video

    • @Marios_CG
      @Marios_CG  5 місяців тому +18

      Thanks for the comment. You are so right, music is a huge instigator of daydreaming and that can send you into a spiral or dependency on that escape. Hard because I love music too!

    • @user-bc2in7oe3l
      @user-bc2in7oe3l 4 місяці тому +4

      Continue doing that siz , everything we do on this earth is just an escape from nilhism

    • @kimjames6028
      @kimjames6028 Місяць тому +1

      Yes! Same

    • @disharoy4534
      @disharoy4534 Місяць тому +2

      It's music for me too.

    • @Drunkenpenguinz
      @Drunkenpenguinz 20 днів тому +2

      Is it a specific genre of music or a subject in the music you hear that triggers you?

  • @DivinitysDaughter
    @DivinitysDaughter 5 місяців тому +22

    Did it in the middle of this video…lordt😭

  • @TheGDEventI
    @TheGDEventI 5 місяців тому +14

    I do this and start creating situations in my head for the future, which never actually come out. It’s just that my life is boring and I have not much to live for.

    • @meriambenabdallah9495
      @meriambenabdallah9495 3 місяці тому +4

      I relate to you , but don't say that I do feel that you have something to live for, just keep going.

  • @user-zqrj9tt13
    @user-zqrj9tt13 18 днів тому +3

    my mechanisms are so complex (with specific objects and locations) and it requires so much energy that sometimes my ADHD would fight back and make me stop or even lose interest at all, but when I can meet all the requirements: a bed, a pillow and being alone... it can last for hours.
    the best thing that happened to me is to live with my girlfriend. the shame made me turn that urge into something more productive like going for a long walk and watch the city while thinking I have developed an electric car that can fight Teslas's, or sometimes to actually solve real problems I've got.

  •  3 місяці тому +6

    Not me daydreaming while watching this 😂

  • @liz-oi9dp
    @liz-oi9dp 2 місяці тому +5

    Wow guys. This is so depressing for all of us. But also Atleast we are creative lol

  • @ashniroman6241
    @ashniroman6241 5 місяців тому +24

    This definitely feels like it can go hand in hand with limerence.
    I've experienced limerence with four different people now, and each time I fall into ridiculous daydream fantasies that take up a good five minutes each time.
    Interestingly, they're not always about scenarios involving the LO but sometimes fantasies about me achieving things that my LO would be proud of.
    I'm so incredibly grateful for your videos Marios, I've only just discovered them and the concept of limerence but I now have some level of explanation for why I attach to a girl so quickly and in such a painful way.
    I'm determined to stop falling into unnecessary daydream fantasies .

    • @Marios_CG
      @Marios_CG  5 місяців тому +4

      Thank you for sharing and for taking the time to comment. It’s my hope more people know about limerence before or while they experience it.

    • @Cendaya
      @Cendaya 11 годин тому

      I am from Germany and this is EXACTLY what is happening to me. I would love to find out why we are what we are, because on one hand it’s a mental disorder, but on the other hand there are people doing it without trauma.
      I feel like i will never be happy in life, because my Standards towards loyality, love and intimicy are quite unrealistic. I would need someone to live a Fantasy life with me.
      For example: My actual daydream is about Thomas Shelby from the Series Peaky Blinders and me living life, romantically with up and downs. I don’t just face the for me best situations, it’s Like at the end it’s always about loyality even in bad times. It’s weird. That’s why my daydreams are often criminal and oversexualised.
      When i would go for the life i dream about i would be kind of a crazy passionate psychopath. If i would find someone to dress and live like this in real life, to have passionate sex, a crazy lifestyle and complete loyality to each other it maybe could work out in real life. Everything else bores me.
      It’s like i never get high enough on life and what life offers itsself will never satisfie me. It’s rediciolous, because in real life i am not even Controlling with people or situations, i just have deeper expectations.
      So then i was like: why do i feel so good with the broken ones. And then my behaviour reminded me of the film „SuicideSquad“ and the limerence and loyality in it. Like am i a psychopath who needs a high sensation seeking to function?

  • @jonspectre1103
    @jonspectre1103 5 місяців тому +26

    Great video, thank you. I've been a maladaptive daydreamer for as long as I can remember. I wouldn't even play at recess as a kid because I'd rather just daydream. As soon as puberty hit, I started fantasizing about love. Eventually, after my first two relationships, I realized that I'd rather fantasize about love than actually experience. It sucks. I hate that about myself. I don't know why I do it. I just do. I feel like an addict and a narcissist. I don't know what a version of who doesn't daydream would even look like. I wrote in my journal a few weeks ago: "a man with a sharp sword must have a care not to cut himself with it. A man with a sharp mind must have a care not to get lost in it." Now how do I get un-lost?

    • @almasahmed4631
      @almasahmed4631 18 днів тому

      did you're symptoms improve

    • @jonspectre1103
      @jonspectre1103 18 днів тому

      @@almasahmed4631 yes, but I can easily swing back into a "daydream binge" of sorts if I let myself. It helps to go outside and be among friends. Reading books etc also helps, because then something else can occupy your mind

  • @Onsite-With-RockstarrClarke
    @Onsite-With-RockstarrClarke 4 місяці тому +11

    I just call it brain power. I love imaging scenarios, whatever I want. I can see hear and almost feel and smell whatever I imagine. I can be whoever, so whatever and go where I want. Bad or good, I can fly, fight , have powers, fight demons, rule the world or - just be myself in interesting alternative scenarios. My mind is my space - it’s me - I love it. I hate hearing that it’s a problem it is not. The world a society of people and it is a cruel cold place on this beautiful planet we have.

    • @wul09
      @wul09 3 місяці тому +4

      there's a difference between maladaptive daydreaming and being imaginative/mind wandering, it becomes a problem when you start ignoring your true reality to stay in these world's for long periods, im not aware of your lifestyle but you're just heading towards more problems if you keep romanticizing and/or denying it when it becomes severe, it's a different thing if you actually make work of it and are in the writing field but if not.. would be better to only speak for yourself, many people who go through the same things as you will have false comfort and beleive what they're doing is normal when it isn't 😊

    • @Onsite-With-RockstarrClarke
      @Onsite-With-RockstarrClarke 3 місяці тому +1

      @@wul09 I do speak for my self. I experienced a lot of trauma mentally and physically. My mind was always the safest place to be…. To escape, live and feel and be whoever I wanted to be. My world, my way. I work and hustle 60 hours a week .8 have two beautiful children and have a hot wife. We have been together for 11 years. What gets me by ? - my mind - I cannot be hurt here. In my mind I am free - free from beliefs, rule, political views, taxes anything. I am here with me .

    • @wul09
      @wul09 3 місяці тому

      @@Onsite-With-RockstarrClarke i totally understand you and im glad you're able to maintain a healthy work life balance between everything, now im not a professional to go on and try to "mend" your ways to my perspective but i will wish you the best in life and maybe reaching out to a therapist, not because it's a problem but everyone needs a therapist, especially with the trauma you speak of, a professional could help you be free of all the mental scars and maybe you could even share this fantasy world with them :)

  • @evankellough8225
    @evankellough8225 5 місяців тому +12

    Out of all the accounts that cover limerence, these videos have been the most helpful to me. I can’t afford a therapist at the moment, so for right now I’m focusing on what I can control. I’ve stopped consuming alcohol and nicotine and I plan on stopping with cannabis soon. I am also exercising, meditating and practicing dopamine fasting and it’s been helping quite a bit. I know that I still have a lot of work to do but these videos gave me a good head start so thank you Marios 🙏🏻

    • @Marios_CG
      @Marios_CG  5 місяців тому

      Wow thank you so much for sharing. I appreciate it.

  • @mikiavidan508
    @mikiavidan508 2 місяці тому +3

    I’ve done this my whole life too. Apparently it’s very common with ADHD.

  • @kiaragamer3859
    @kiaragamer3859 5 місяців тому +8

    It is like the world knows my habits and is trying to bring light to tendencies I constantly fall into 😅

  • @nothingmore6108
    @nothingmore6108 4 місяці тому +7

    I've been maladaptively daydreaming for most of my life, to the point that now at 25 I basically live in my daydreams. I have several daydreams I jump into, realistic scenarios that I make up or more fantasy based/fictional daydream plots. Most of the time it's automatic but sometimes I daydream out of choice, just because my fictional world just seems so much more fun/helps me feel or experience things I want to experience.

  • @9ngu1n17
    @9ngu1n17 2 місяці тому +2

    Do people not know when they start daydreaming? I always know. I don't always have the energy to stop.

  • @Darknight526
    @Darknight526 3 місяці тому +1

    Thank you Marios!

  • @gstar1229
    @gstar1229 5 місяців тому +2

    This is brilliant..

  • @jimmycastellano9900
    @jimmycastellano9900 Місяць тому +1

    I maladaptive daydream all the time, and I enjoy doing it. I will literally set aside time to do it. I'll get my snack ready and sit at my computer and zone out for anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour Sometimes it involves music in the background Certain photographs that I like to use but I don't believe that I'm doing it because I feel pain in some way. Yeah, it could be because I'm bored, but I do it because I enjoy it, just like somebody else might play video games, or somebody else might go gambling, or somebody else might do crochet, whatever you might do. Personally, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I don't feel there's a problem with it, except for sometimes when I'm watching tv with my partner I will start to do it, and I lose track of what the show was about, and my partner gets upset with me.

  • @user-jp5ck7tk7f
    @user-jp5ck7tk7f 5 місяців тому +1

    Very useful video! Thank you!!!!!

  • @emmaytaccount
    @emmaytaccount Місяць тому +1

    Most of my maladaptive daydreaming is negative, I wouldnt say mine is to escape pain, just brings more on lol

  • @texuztweety
    @texuztweety 5 місяців тому +3

    Right. This is widespread but not discussed. Thank you for speak on this topic!

  • @Purplecredence9
    @Purplecredence9 5 місяців тому +3

    Thank you so much for your videos. They are very enlightening and I am very grateful about the production quality 🙌🏻. Would it be possible for you to make some videos that elaborates more on coping strategies for maladaptive daydreaming ?

  • @dirismuzik5552
    @dirismuzik5552 3 місяці тому +2

    Im gonna book a session soon

  • @pariskanioros9262
    @pariskanioros9262 25 днів тому +1

    I prefer it to my real life.

  • @annaalexandrovna3701
    @annaalexandrovna3701 27 днів тому +1

    is it possible to experience limerence with respect to a fictional person? I have MD, and most of my dream scenarios revolve around fixed characters whom I've completely made up.

  • @sawit_b4u
    @sawit_b4u 28 днів тому +1

    is maladaptive daydreaming just another term/form of ruminating? I know I'm still caught in such a loop of rumination for the last year over the end of a mutual limerent relationship. it's exhausting, wish it was a good dream! thanks in advance.

  • @pitchthewoo
    @pitchthewoo 25 днів тому +1

    What's the middle ground between some of the corrective solutions you suggest to counter maladaptive daydreaming and your recommendation to not fight your limerence, in the case where maladaptive daydreaming is primarily a limerent activity? Edit: I've just found your video that addresses this.

  • @SaminSays
    @SaminSays 5 місяців тому +3

    who else was daydreaming while watching this?

  • @sweetie4915
    @sweetie4915 5 місяців тому +5

    Interesting concept; rather like the old movie "Private Life of Walter Mitty." However there is a flaw in what you have said, or you have not differentiated something. Consider this: people who actually create things like poets, artists and so on, under this label, they are also being diagnosed with the some maladaptive condition that is 'un-diagnosable.' Shakespeare, Dickens, Jane Austen; Da Vinci, Michel Angelo and Raphael; would you call them maladaptive daydreamers, since they create from their own private little dream World? I wanted to ask that you clarify this point because it was not too clear. Your channel is interesting, and I shall take time to look it over. Thank you for your presentation. Look forward to hearing from you and God Bless!

    • @Marios_CG
      @Marios_CG  5 місяців тому +6

      Yes good point, first thoughts are that those types of daydreamers are in the act of creation. Maladaptive daydreaming as I describe it has no aim or benefit to the dreamer, it’s a coping mechanism to avoid stress. An artist letting their mind wander feels quite distinct for me.

    • @sweetie4915
      @sweetie4915 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Marios_CG Ah, understood. Well said and that distinction is duly noted. One is constructive; as you said: creative. It is the imagination of the artist, or even mathematicians or engineers to create; they use this process to thrive. The other is, as you said: maladaptive which simply avoids something in a someone's personal life that is distasteful to them, and to be the maladaptive dreamer is just a low energy way to cope. Thank you for responding so quickly. Interesting subject too.

    • @Gabriel-qm6kn
      @Gabriel-qm6kn 3 місяці тому +1

      But maybe one can be linked to another... i have Maladaptive Daydreaming which is more evident when my depression gets worse or feeling lonely... But in those addictive moments i'm very creative aswell and had put alot of creative ideas on the paper.

  • @turtleanton6539
    @turtleanton6539 Місяць тому

    Indeed🎉😊

  • @preethipandiaraj873
    @preethipandiaraj873 3 місяці тому

    Hi i have an question is it possible for your intrusive thoughts to mix with daydreaming ?

  • @libra628
    @libra628 20 днів тому +1

    thank you for this video! really appreciate it, but
    i have a question though, is it any different from just ... talking to yourself?
    something similar to dan howell's "i talk to myself" video like 10 years ago lolol would that be considered maladaptive daydreaming as well?

    • @Marios_CG
      @Marios_CG  19 днів тому +1

      That’s interesting I haven’t considered that. I don’t feel like talking to yourself is an escape, it’s more like running through your thinking with yourself. By speaking, you have to order your sentences and therefore your thinking to help figure things out. Thinking in your head without words can feel more nebulous and confusing as it’s easier to run around in circles.

    • @libra628
      @libra628 19 днів тому

      @@Marios_CG oooo that sheds light on things then. thanks so much for responding! 🫶🏼

  • @johnm.7621
    @johnm.7621 5 місяців тому

    What if someone hears voices that engage someone in conversation while maladaptive daydreaming?

  • @MakemeaTorontoStar
    @MakemeaTorontoStar 5 місяців тому +1

    Are you going to do a livestream?

    • @Marios_CG
      @Marios_CG  5 місяців тому

      Yes I'd like to, but hard to find a time that will work for multiple timezones!

    • @MakemeaTorontoStar
      @MakemeaTorontoStar 5 місяців тому

      Well you could do 10 am on a Saturday my time in Toronto which is 3 pm in the UK @@Marios_CG

  • @yusufhabib3507
    @yusufhabib3507 5 місяців тому

    9:40

  • @2012BeyondtheWorld
    @2012BeyondtheWorld 5 місяців тому

    I had this and my antipsychotic medication I'm on took it away from me 😢

    • @brandib3275
      @brandib3275 3 місяці тому

      If you don't mind my asking, what do you take that took it away?

    • @MelModica
      @MelModica 9 днів тому

      I was on Zoloft years ago and nothing bothered me which was good because my anxiety was gone and I was able to work around people but it took away my creativity! I felt like a zombie when I was on meds. I’ve been off Zoloft a long time and my creativity is back and all my emotions but I cannot deal with people much so I work jobs where I can be alone.
      I’ve had maladaptive day dreaming since I was very young and discovered I battle limerance about a year ago it seemed to really get bad around the time my nephew died in 2022, it was like maladaptive day dreaming on steroids. I’m not trying to feel sorry for myself but I’ve been through hell and back and reality hasn’t been so kind to me. I’m mostly over the limerance but still day dreaming a lot but I do use it in a creative way, I play guitar and write poetry and lyrics and want to get back into drawing and painting.
      I battle depression and anxiety and instead of worrying I try to use my imagination to visualize positive outcomes not in a delusional way but it helps me remain calm and I can think more clearly and come up with solutions for problems instead of wasting my energy worrying.
      There is definitely good and bad things about daydreaming. I think limerance is daydreaming gone out of control but at the same time limerance kept me safe and I dodged many bullets because I was obsessed with a LO while I was severely depressed and anxious. So actually dating at that time in reality it wasn’t a good time for me to even be in a relationship! My day dreaming was protecting me. I was so lonely I fantasized about being in a relationship instead of trying to date which was good because my mental health was so bad I was almost putting myself into dangerous situations while lost and detached because I was in such heavy grief after losing my nephew. So as strange as it sounds the limerance kept me safe but it went on about two years. I still struggle with it but no nowhere near as bad as I was. I know in my situation the limerance was triggered by severe trauma and loneliness.

  • @world.tech12
    @world.tech12 4 місяці тому

    I don't need to be triggered for daydreaming, it comes by it self🤔

  • @Bren12602
    @Bren12602 Місяць тому

    3:18
    6:53

  • @Bren12602
    @Bren12602 Місяць тому

    8:15
    10:30

  • @victoriaesther8858
    @victoriaesther8858 4 місяці тому +1

    U look so sad tho 😭 r u okay?

    • @Marios_CG
      @Marios_CG  4 місяці тому

      Blessed and highly favoured, thank you for asking x

    • @victoriaesther8858
      @victoriaesther8858 4 місяці тому

      Oh sorry, ur eyes looked sad and teary, Glad ur okay then sir, Glory be to God!

  • @user-bc2in7oe3l
    @user-bc2in7oe3l 4 місяці тому +1

    This isn't an illness , its just a personality trait

    • @sama-nz3gc
      @sama-nz3gc 4 місяці тому +1

      What if it was taking up so much of ur time and at some point you can’t even pull yourself out of it and can’t focus on ur real life tasks? It’s really annoying and exhausting

    • @samia6888
      @samia6888 2 місяці тому +2

      It’s an illness if it causes distress and has negative effects on your daily life. People lose jobs because of this so it is serious for many.

  • @delusionalferretswife
    @delusionalferretswife 8 днів тому

    i've been doing this since i was little and i never hated it, yes, it makes me 'waste' a lot of time but for me it's not a waste, i love to do it, plus i'm a writer and this is my way of living my stories. It's a part of me.

  • @leticiastar30
    @leticiastar30 18 днів тому +1

    I wish I could stop 💔🥲

  • @blist245
    @blist245 5 місяців тому +1

    i needed this and it was well explained and helpful 🫶🏻