@@TooSlowTube Not to worry, the standalone version of our Components content manager will soon be available to download from your Novation account if you have registered your Bass Station II.
@@NovationTV Please hurry :-) Can't wait to use FW 2.5. This "online-update" with social-media login really sucks :-/ Why is facebook involved to update my analogue synthesizer?!?!
You did us proud, and to go back to older models and address much needed issues ie key tracking, is impressive and greatly appreciated. I have bs1 bs2 A-Station, and this is why YOU get my money. Paraphonic mode was like...wtf! Talk about BONUS!
Note to other manufacturers: pay attention & take example.I don't have any Novation product yet but this defintely tips the scales in their favour. Well done!
THIS is awesome! If you think about how long this beauty is on the market and you guys at Novation still work on updates to make it even more perfect. Thats epic! I wish more Companies would work like you! Much love
Its great Novation are keeping this hardware going with new updates. Maybe design some new faceplates for it as well to keep it fresh? I am sure people would buy them. You have a knack for good design.....how about a Supernova faceplate.....that was one awesome looking synth.
Fresher than a frog! I wanted something analog and potentially with polyphony. The GAIA met most of those marks but the new firmware update to the BS2 really adds a ton
Been playing around with the new 2.5 update features... And must say, DAAAAAAMN, feels and sounds like I've gotten a new synth!!!.... I love you, Novation! :D
Awesome company updating older but still excellent products. !! Fingers crossed that these new features are represented in an updated midi implementation. Also would be great to add oscillator shape selection available in the midi implementation as well! Cheers and hats off to Novation!!
Edit: Customer service has sent me a new Bundle Code this morning, thank you! This sounds great, but not giving a direct link to firmware updates ridiculous. Especially with this "Bundle Code" requirement to register your product. I assume this was on some Ableton Live Lite piece of paper that I threw away two years ago when I bought my BSII? I have contacted support, hopefully I can get a new one.
Paraphonic Mode is just Mindblowing 🤯 How does it work? Did Novation surprisingly find two unused Oscilators 😉 Or is it just the separation between Osc1 and Osc2?
Just a separation between OSC1 und OSC2, like in Arp Odyssey or Novation Mono Station. Try it in combination with the ringmodulator for interesting sequenzes like in NINs track "the hand that feeds you"!
This is great! It was kind of neat to connect my bass station to my browser and have it do it for me!! Awesome to be able to play 2 notes at once. Which is the most I can manage really... How many people put a rude message on theirs??!
I’ve not been this excited about synth features before. I think I’m just really happy for the Bass Station 2 mostly. Finally solidified its place as a noble synth...
Novation is the best. Who else both listens to their customers so well and continues to add value to their products long after release?! Seriously, what a company!
could you please give people the 'OPTION' to use a catch mode for the controls on your lovely synths. like demoed at 4.04- '..and when i go to the shared envelope, everything jumps around' paraphonic update is amazing tho. lovely synth
Novation's own, 'Lucky Catz' has created a scala importer that you can grab here: www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/9til14/novation_bass_station_ii_scala_scale_importer
".. value from 0:7 where 0 is no error, and 7 represents an error of maximum approximately 1 semitone. " (i.e. half step, for Americans) - that's way too much. We want a subtle detune, not a synth that automatically plays the wrong notes!
WOW!!! Thank you for this, thank you so much! I was expecting BSIII at some point, but this is just amazing! You brought new light to old and loved synt
Do it again, it takes seconds. Check UA-cam videos for how to update in case you did it wrong. The bar moves across the screen and bs2 lights flash...done.
What would you like to know? You can find more information in the v2.5 user guide here: customer.novationmusic.com/sites/default/files/novation/downloads/15935/bsii2.5newfeaturesuserguide.pdf Looking for a scala importer? Novation's own, Lucky Catz has created one here: github.com/LuckyCatz/BSII_Scala_Importer
@@NovationTV Thanks so much for the response. Huge fan of the BS2 here and these new capabilities are excellent additions. Non-equal tempered tunings, unlike equal temperament, all revolve around a root key; are these tunings all based around C? The manual doesn't explain this aspect at all. Also, do you need a computer to create your own tunings which then are transmitted via sysex to the BS2? Thanks in advance.
Oh man. I really should have gotten a BS2 instead of a Microbrute. At the time though, I didn't know Novation was so good about listening to its customers.
However, I plan on getting a Peak as soon as I can afford one. I find myself needing one in literally every song I make. Or, really, two or three of them. If there was a multi-timbral Peak, I'd be all over that.
So can I revert back if I don't like the new firmware update? Also with the AFX mode firmware update, can I revert back to the original firmware if I need/want to?
Yes, that is certainly possible. Our Support Team can provide an earlier firmware release that you can add to your Bass Station II if you decide that you would like to revert.
Hey, I can´t update. The Bass Station is not recognized on the Update Page... It only says "not connected". Any suggestions? Want this update so badly!
anyone else wish this came in 32/37 key version? and slightly slimmer keys? (not mini keys, just slimmer like a DX keybed) in before "use another keybed/controller"
It should be a very quick process, sorry you've had problems with this, Nazar. Have you tried updating using Components Standalone? This will be appearing in the accounts of all registered Bass Station II owners today.
Nazar Artykula, Apparently you may be able to get it out of that boot loader (6TL) mode by re-flashing the previous firmware, with the 1.1 librarian + firmware update . That's on Novation's public downloads page for the BSII - you don't need to log in to get it. After that, you should be able to update it with the standalone Components, or maybe the web based one - or failing that, at least you'd be able to use it again.
Wow! You gotta love the guys from Novation! This update implements EVERYTHING I ever wished for. Basically, five years after the first release, the BS II now becomes a whole new beast and more powerful than ever before. It was a great monosynth before, but now it is simply amazing. But, off course, there's already people complaining about the update process. OMFG get over it! It's simple, reliable and only takes a few minutes. After that, you can still deinstall chrome and delete your google account again, if that's what you want. No problem whatsoever. Thank you Novation and happy 25th anniversary Bass Station!
Bought one over 5 years ago when they came out. It was a good decision; great synth, especially for the price. Nice to see those new feature - the variable keytracking and looping EGs are particularly cool.
Thanks Novation for these great new features on already an older instrument. BS2 is serious value for money! One big thing I miss on the BS2 though: save sequences per patch! When I started using the BS2 I was creating a lot of nice sequences and sound ideas during a couple of hours. But unfortunately, after a while I just realised BS2 only saves 4 sequences in total, where I really thought it was per patch. I lost all but last 4 sequences, and so a lot of potential hit material disappeared into space!! :p
It couldn't physically store more, without losing some of the patch memory instead (less slots), but it seems like something that maybe the librarian, or the "component manager" could provide.... maybe.
Yeah, I guess it's because of the memory limitation. The librarian would not give any solution that's usable for live use, unfortunately. The moog sub(sequent) 37 stores sequence per patch, only one sequence per patch though, but that's enough. Everytime you have a nice patch/sequence combo, you can save it and you still can flip sounds on the same sequence as well, like the BS can. A BS hardware 'memory hack' would be really great. It's possible on synths of more than 30 y/o (polysix: kiwisix / pro one: MTG turbo CPU /...), so I guess it might be possible on the BS2 as well, but unfortunately I'm not the one that will be able to make this happen :)
Yep. The DSI Mopho stores one sequence for each patch too... which is a great little synth, apart from the lack of knobs to program it with. For live use, I guess that's much less of an issue.
Wow! Okay, so I was very seriously considered getting a BSII due to it being one of the first hardware synths to work with the new Omnisphere 2.5 hardware integration. Now, this update....keyboard just ordered! I could get a bit spoiled by all of this, but so great that the support is there big time. Thanks!
I just got the Bass Station II, it's my first Novation product overall. There's only one thing I don't like: the fact that I didn't get this earlier! What a fantastic synth, I'm blown away! And there's still support after so many years, just wow. A company that truly cares, thank you!
Anyone else having problems updating to the latest firmware? Chrome can see my BS2 but when I try to update the firmware the BS2 enters BTL mode and I get the following error in chrome "Error Something went wrong when starting the firmware update. Please check the connection and try again." I can only get the BS2 to connect again if I power cycle the BS2 and restart chrome. Trying the update again and it failed. I have disabled all my my extensions to rule those out as the cause. I'm connected directly to my computer via usb no hub. Update: Finally got it to update after using another PC and getting a timeout error. After one of the failures I left the BS2 in BTL dismissed the error and tried again while it was still in BTL mode. The update then went through.
I was not able to do the update through Chrome. Installed Opera and it worked without any problems. It seems like you have to make some changes to the midisettings in Chrome if you want to use that browser.
If you are not aware Novation have updated the firmware a lot further and it's now at 4.14. Loads of new features. ua-cam.com/video/XP3t857OI7o/v-deo.html
In portions of this video where we explain the transformative features that we've added to this synth, for free, you're hearing both. Bass Station II does not feature a reverb.
Is there ever any chance of this arriving in a rack format? My very first synth was a bass station 1 rack, I've recently acquired a supernova rack and it would be great to upgrade the Bass Station 1 to this in my rack.
Thanks for your interest in that, Koss. We don't have any current plans to do that but we'll certainly share your suggestion with our development team for their consideration. 👍
Good job! thanks for supporting your products. When and where this update will be available? cause its not on novation website...
This is available right now from the Novation Components content manager: components.novationmusic.com
Why no .exe, like previous versions? I don't use Chrome. I don't do Facebook.
Where is the download?
@@TooSlowTube Same here. Im really hyped about this update, but I simply wont use chrome or opera.
@@TooSlowTube Not to worry, the standalone version of our Components content manager will soon be available to download from your Novation account if you have registered your Bass Station II.
@@NovationTV Please hurry :-) Can't wait to use FW 2.5. This "online-update" with social-media login really sucks :-/ Why is facebook involved to update my analogue synthesizer?!?!
You did us proud, and to go back to older models and address much needed issues ie key tracking, is impressive and greatly appreciated.
I have bs1 bs2 A-Station, and this is why YOU get my money.
Paraphonic mode was like...wtf! Talk about BONUS!
Thanks for your support. We're glad you're enjoying v2.5 🙌🙏
You're probably the company that gives more support to its products. Kudos to that!
🙌🙏
I just bought one as my first synth. Can’t wait to play around with it.
Note to other manufacturers: pay attention & take example.I don't have any Novation product yet but this defintely tips the scales in their favour. Well done!
Thank you for these! Wish other companies were as gracious with updates that both fix issues and add to an already great synth.
NOVATION: kings of updates award! keep on! :-)) next is for Peak please :-)
THIS is awesome! If you think about how long this beauty is on the market and you guys at Novation still work on updates to make it even more perfect. Thats epic! I wish more Companies would work like you! Much love
...update older products! Oh! Thanks Novation! Thanks for support :D - and, Thank you for the integration with components! Really kool ;)
Sweetness! Thanks for not forgetting the BS2!
WoW! This is as good as getting a brand new synth :O thank u thank u thank u novation! :-)
You're very welcome, Sampath! It really does breathe new life into Bass Station II.
Nice! 👌🏼
Its great Novation are keeping this hardware going with new updates. Maybe design some new faceplates for it as well to keep it fresh? I am sure people would buy them. You have a knack for good design.....how about a Supernova faceplate.....that was one awesome looking synth.
Thanks for taking the time to share this with us, that's an interesting idea. We'll see what we can do about that 👍
So BS2 plus Reverb pedal is basically what I'm craving?
Nice, now update Peak for 2nd anniversary.
its got to be close
Great update and cool to see that you update older products :)
Was going to buy a Roland Gaia instead of the BS2 but this probably pushed the needle over to Novation. Bravo.
Fresher than a frog! I wanted something analog and potentially with polyphony. The GAIA met most of those marks but the new firmware update to the BS2 really adds a ton
I own both and wouldn't part with either of them.
Guy Mulry I hear you. Hopefully I can own both :)
Will Jackson the Gaia is not analog. It uses samples and doesn’t sound great at all.
Same! Just ordered the BS2ntoday actually. Only thing I now still like about the Gaia more is the joystick-like pitch stick lol
Novation, you rock. Thank you.
Been playing around with the new 2.5 update features... And must say, DAAAAAAMN, feels and sounds like I've gotten a new synth!!!.... I love you, Novation! :D
That's great to hear! Thanks for your kind words 🙌 🙏
Awesome update!
Thanks, Mick! 🙌 ❤️
Awesome company updating older but still excellent products.
!! Fingers crossed that these new features are represented in an updated midi implementation. Also would be great to add oscillator shape selection available in the midi implementation as well! Cheers and hats off to Novation!!
Edit: Customer service has sent me a new Bundle Code this morning, thank you!
This sounds great, but not giving a direct link to firmware updates ridiculous. Especially with this "Bundle Code" requirement to register your product. I assume this was on some Ableton Live Lite piece of paper that I threw away two years ago when I bought my BSII? I have contacted support, hopefully I can get a new one.
Paraphonic Mode is just Mindblowing 🤯 How does it work? Did Novation surprisingly find two unused Oscilators 😉 Or is it just the separation between Osc1 and Osc2?
Just a separation between OSC1 und OSC2, like in Arp Odyssey or Novation Mono Station. Try it in combination with the ringmodulator for interesting sequenzes like in NINs track "the hand that feeds you"!
ooooooh long awaited features!!! thank you Novation!
Thanks, thanks, THANKS!
The Ableton Live editor is now updated to enjoy the new firmware 2.5: www.maxforlive.com/library/device/3243/bass-station-2-remote
2:47 the patch you used for your sequence, is that sound on the Bass Station 2 factory sound set?
SOoooo COOOL !!!!!!!
This is great! It was kind of neat to connect my bass station to my browser and have it do it for me!! Awesome to be able to play 2 notes at once. Which is the most I can manage really... How many people put a rude message on theirs??!
Must have!! Great job and kudos Novation -going to download update for my BS now
0:51 Sounded sick
I’ve not been this excited about synth features before. I think I’m just really happy for the Bass Station 2 mostly. Finally solidified its place as a noble synth...
Thanks very much, Novation team. A great update to an an already terrific product.
Great news! Thank you Novation, for listening to your customers. A powerful synth just became more powerful!
Thumbs up Indiana USA.
Well, got the box for my BSII out the loft today as I was gonna sell it. Just got a reprieve. Minilogue is still going though.
Wicked update! Seriously lusting for one now.
Thanks, Simon! 🙌 🙏
Sequencer step lenght would be great also..
Novation is the best. Who else both listens to their customers so well and continues to add value to their products long after release?! Seriously, what a company!
Novation is such a great company. I wish I could work for them.
focusrite.workable.com
I have 2 units to update but Components dont work (i have try with opera and chrome), the standalone bass station librarian update only to v1.5
Thanks
Question about the new Filter keytracking function, does it work with both the "classic" filter and the "acid" filter ??, thanks :-)
Yes, it works on both (just checked it)... :)
@@mindphsr72 thanks a lot!, great :-)
Yes, you can bring the acid-filter to 0% filter tracking, but it seems there is no possibility to bring it up to 100%!?
@@steril ok thanks, if i remember correctly, i think the acid filter was set to 50% keytracking only, so i think it's normal ?? maybe
@@commutercommuter That's correct, but I was hoping for the possibility to get the filter tracking to 100%. Maybe in the next update, Novation? :)
Awesome news, thanks !!
That's a good update! Thanks.
Impressive...I wish Korg had the same policy regarding their older products
With it being paraphonic the oscillators are separate and able to use different waveforms and octaves for each?
could you please give people the 'OPTION' to use a catch mode for the controls on your lovely synths. like demoed at 4.04- '..and when i go to the shared envelope, everything jumps around'
paraphonic update is amazing tho. lovely synth
Can you import your own tunning tables ???
Novation's own, 'Lucky Catz' has created a scala importer that you can grab here: www.reddit.com/r/synthesizers/comments/9til14/novation_bass_station_ii_scala_scale_importer
I am impressed! Do you have any plans to update Peak firmware? If so, when?
No! 🙀 I don’t want to come across as ‘Mr Complainypants’ but the oscillator error seemed too extreme when you were at the ‘first’ level Setting!
".. value from 0:7 where 0 is no error, and 7 represents an error of maximum approximately 1 semitone. " (i.e. half step, for Americans)
- that's way too much. We want a subtle detune, not a synth that automatically plays the wrong notes!
WOW!!! Thank you for this, thank you so much! I was expecting BSIII at some point, but this is just amazing! You brought new light to old and loved synt
Fantastic - I love you!
Ok now... This update IS! BADASS!! Im speechless!
These guys are awesome for supporting their products so well, keep up the good work!
How long should the firmware take to update the BSII ? ......I've been running it for 3 hours and still nothing....
It took me less than a minute... You've got a problem...
Do it again, it takes seconds.
Check UA-cam videos for how to update in case you did it wrong.
The bar moves across the screen and bs2 lights flash...done.
Wow this is amazing! Cheers up for Novation!!
Fantastique update
More information about the microtuning parameters, please
What would you like to know? You can find more information in the v2.5 user guide here: customer.novationmusic.com/sites/default/files/novation/downloads/15935/bsii2.5newfeaturesuserguide.pdf
Looking for a scala importer? Novation's own, Lucky Catz has created one here:
github.com/LuckyCatz/BSII_Scala_Importer
@@NovationTV
Thanks so much for the response. Huge fan of the BS2 here and these new capabilities are excellent additions.
Non-equal tempered tunings, unlike equal temperament, all revolve around a root key; are these tunings all based around C? The manual doesn't explain this aspect at all.
Also, do you need a computer to create your own tunings which then are transmitted via sysex to the BS2?
Thanks in advance.
Oh man. I really should have gotten a BS2 instead of a Microbrute. At the time though, I didn't know Novation was so good about listening to its customers.
However, I plan on getting a Peak as soon as I can afford one. I find myself needing one in literally every song I make. Or, really, two or three of them. If there was a multi-timbral Peak, I'd be all over that.
So can I revert back if I don't like the new firmware update? Also with the AFX mode firmware update, can I revert back to the original firmware if I need/want to?
Yes, that is certainly possible. Our Support Team can provide an earlier firmware release that you can add to your Bass Station II if you decide that you would like to revert.
Hey, I can´t update. The Bass Station is not recognized on the Update Page... It only says "not connected". Any suggestions? Want this update so badly!
anyone else wish this came in 32/37 key version? and slightly slimmer keys? (not mini keys, just slimmer like a DX keybed)
in before "use another keybed/controller"
Thanks for your feedback on this.
Hell Yeah!...the adjustable filter tracking added!!! Finally! ...and paraphonic as well... Thank you Novation!
nice review :) fun to watch
does the firmware take a while to update? I'm stuck on Updating firmware and the BS2 says 6TL on the LCD panel
It should be a very quick process, sorry you've had problems with this, Nazar. Have you tried updating using Components Standalone? This will be appearing in the accounts of all registered Bass Station II owners today.
Nazar Artykula, Apparently you may be able to get it out of that boot loader (6TL) mode by re-flashing the previous firmware, with the 1.1 librarian + firmware update .
That's on Novation's public downloads page for the BSII - you don't need to log in to get it.
After that, you should be able to update it with the standalone Components, or maybe the web based one - or failing that, at least you'd be able to use it again.
thanks, about to pick one of these up, because you guys are so great about software updates!
Wow! You gotta love the guys from Novation! This update implements EVERYTHING I ever wished for. Basically, five years after the first release, the BS II now becomes a whole new beast and more powerful than ever before. It was a great monosynth before, but now it is simply amazing.
But, off course, there's already people complaining about the update process. OMFG get over it! It's simple, reliable and only takes a few minutes. After that, you can still deinstall chrome and delete your google account again, if that's what you want. No problem whatsoever.
Thank you Novation and happy 25th anniversary Bass Station!
is clac short for calcium?
Bought one over 5 years ago when they came out. It was a good decision; great synth, especially for the price. Nice to see those new feature - the variable keytracking and looping EGs are particularly cool.
Thanks Novation for these great new features on already an older instrument. BS2 is serious value for money! One big thing I miss on the BS2 though: save sequences per patch! When I started using the BS2 I was creating a lot of nice sequences and sound ideas during a couple of hours. But unfortunately, after a while I just realised BS2 only saves 4 sequences in total, where I really thought it was per patch. I lost all but last 4 sequences, and so a lot of potential hit material disappeared into space!! :p
It couldn't physically store more, without losing some of the patch memory instead (less slots), but it seems like something that maybe the librarian, or the "component manager" could provide.... maybe.
Yeah, I guess it's because of the memory limitation. The librarian would not give any solution that's usable for live use, unfortunately. The moog sub(sequent) 37 stores sequence per patch, only one sequence per patch though, but that's enough. Everytime you have a nice patch/sequence combo, you can save it and you still can flip sounds on the same sequence as well, like the BS can. A BS hardware 'memory hack' would be really great. It's possible on synths of more than 30 y/o (polysix: kiwisix / pro one: MTG turbo CPU /...), so I guess it might be possible on the BS2 as well, but unfortunately I'm not the one that will be able to make this happen :)
Yep. The DSI Mopho stores one sequence for each patch too... which is a great little synth, apart from the lack of knobs to program it with. For live use, I guess that's much less of an issue.
I want it but I dont have money...
Wow! Okay, so I was very seriously considered getting a BSII due to it being one of the first hardware synths to work with the new Omnisphere 2.5 hardware integration. Now, this update....keyboard just ordered! I could get a bit spoiled by all of this, but so great that the support is there big time. Thanks!
I just got the Bass Station II, it's my first Novation product overall. There's only one thing I don't like: the fact that I didn't get this earlier! What a fantastic synth, I'm blown away! And there's still support after so many years, just wow. A company that truly cares, thank you!
Perfect! I love the way Novation works as a company! You surely know how to attract the consumer. Ant this filter tracking needed a fix badly!
Does it work like a midi keyboard too, for production purposes?
Absolutely! Bass Station II can be used as a standard MIDI controller with virtually all DAWs.
I have been really wanting to get a BS2. This update is what has pushed me over the edge and I will be getting one.
someone's been listening to king gizz
Great job indeed!
Plastic keys pffff
Anyone else having problems updating to the latest firmware? Chrome can see my BS2 but when I try to update the firmware the BS2 enters BTL mode and I get the following error in chrome "Error
Something went wrong when starting the firmware update. Please check the connection and try again." I can only get the BS2 to connect again if I power cycle the BS2 and restart chrome. Trying the update again and it failed. I have disabled all my my extensions to rule those out as the cause. I'm connected directly to my computer via usb no hub.
Update: Finally got it to update after using another PC and getting a timeout error. After one of the failures I left the BS2 in BTL dismissed the error and tried again while it was still in BTL mode. The update then went through.
I had problems with last update, tried for 6 times, and 7th it worked.
I was not able to do the update through Chrome. Installed Opera and it worked without any problems. It seems like you have to make some changes to the midisettings in Chrome if you want to use that browser.
It doesn't work for me too.
Should i do something when the screen change at the start of the updating process ?
Mine worked after 10th try!!!
This is fantastic because filter tracking was why I sold my bass station. I might have to repurchase one now....
I will be buried with mine!
If you are not aware Novation have updated the firmware a lot further and it's now at 4.14. Loads of new features.
ua-cam.com/video/XP3t857OI7o/v-deo.html
Excellent Update!
A true spirit sound of novation! Thanks Calc!
wicked update
Fantastic! Looping envelopes for the Peak next, please and thank you.
Great job Novation! You've again demonstrated why I should buy your instruments.
Are we hearing the Bass Station II or the Strymon Big Sky ?
In portions of this video where we explain the transformative features that we've added to this synth, for free, you're hearing both. Bass Station II does not feature a reverb.
Ah secret reppen... :)
Paraphonic firmware update... Thank you!
Brilliant
Somehow the camera is weird. But looks like a nice synth!
I was about to sell this babe. Not with those semi polyphony addons!
I really think the osc error function should be able to be more subtle that is
Is there ever any chance of this arriving in a rack format? My very first synth was a bass station 1 rack, I've recently acquired a supernova rack and it would be great to upgrade the Bass Station 1 to this in my rack.
Thanks for your interest in that, Koss. We don't have any current plans to do that but we'll certainly share your suggestion with our development team for their consideration. 👍
@@NovationTV thanks guys. The way you support your customer base is fantastic.
@@squoblat Thanks for your support! 🙌🙏
Alexander Ovechkin...2nd job
Please bring microtuning to the Peak!
I've never owned a Novation product. That's going to change. The bass station sounds brilliant.
Update - Bought it and loving it. What a great dirty synth.
What a great update! Thank you so much!