Leia: Oh! oh okay! Anakin: Wow. I really didn't expect you to forgive me, having allowed Alderran to be blown up and everything. I thought you would have had a tad anger in you, since you're my daughter.
@@TheReZisTLust they're not the same thing. i don't believe irredeemable people go to hell-i believe they just die. would death be merciful compaired to eternal torment?
Pillow Man no it was during the time when drax, mantis, quill, and gamora were looking for the collector. thanos grabbed gamora and held her, and peter quill pulled out his gun and pointed it at thanos. you can check. quill and gamora were both dead during endgame until later on in the movie.
Simplesean indeed the films really don’t do any of the characters true justice. When reading more about how powerful and manipulating Palpatine was, you begin to understand how easy it was for naive Anakin to slip to the dark side. For me after reading and learning more from the comics and novels I appreciated the prequels far more.
Pungeon Bysteam4 for sure, he always hung onto the things he was supposed to let go of making it easier for fear to creep it’s way into Anakin allowing anger and hate to follow.
@Mustache Merlin hell does Han even care? im really asking beacuse i havent seen the OT in years, and im not even sure. But i remember he just kinda didn't even cared that he died or that he even was a thing.
@@FoOLiShGuAcBoWLMeRCHanT Correction : you don't care, yet you care enough just to write that comment. go away, crying for the 1000th time about Disney is what no one cares about here.
He tortured her and her husband, cut her brother's hand off, and blew up her planet. Kinda understandable she reacts this way, even if he is her father.
@@DrNefarious-rw1dm He didnt just sit there and watch, he literally held her in place and prevented her from being able to take any action to stop it from happening herself and forced her to watch helplessly.
@@toradora1439 She could do nothing even if he didn't hold her, she was sorrounded by imperial personnel, she would have been shot if she tried to stop them
@@DrNefarious-rw1dm True, but she was even willing to risk being shot in order to stop them, as we saw when Tarkin told the crewman to fire and told her she was too trusting. She tried to struggle her way out of Vaders grasp (in vain), but he held on to her too tightly, just like an evil villan would. He wasnt some innocent bystandard in all of this like some others are trying to argue.
I think that's the point. It shouldn't matter. It made him a horrible person regardless. Whether she was his daughter or not, he was a horrible person as Vader. She's not aware of Anakin Skywalker's personality, who he was. At least Luke had some insight into who Anakin was.
@@sarahlennox3528 It's also the fact that Leia didn't know *why* Anakin became Vader to begin with. Had she known it was actually the result of Anakin's love for Padme being warped and twisted by Palpatine's manipulations, she likely would have been quicker to forgive Anakin....and to hate Palpatine even more for corrupting something as pure as Anakin's love for his wife (and Leia's mother).
@@gamester512 As a daughter who harboured a lot of hatred for her father, I get it for those reasons, but I also understand that in her position, she doesn't want to understand his reasoning. To her, there's no reasoning that could equate to his actions. She never knew the truth behind why Anakin turned, and with her limited scope, she didn't much care. The anger prevents you from getting too curious, and just like her father, she's an angry person lol. I mean, we got a front row seat to Anakin's fall. I cried my bloody face off during the epic fight between Obi Wan and Anakin in Revenge of the Sith. Cried like a baby. But, I've read how she grew up and became involved in the Rebels and whatnot, and it gives you a good vantage point as Leia. Vader killed her parents, as far as she's concerned. I don't think she ever wanted to know more about him or care to wonder anything, he's no more than the man that murdered her parents, her planet, tortured her, Han, and tried to set the galaxy on fire, basically lol. I don't know, that's just how I see it. You may have already, but the book "Leia: Princess of Aldaraan" by Claudia Gray is an excellent book that shows you about Leia's upbringing.
bruh that makes that worse. Not only is he a dickhead to supposed strangers, he never even bothered pursuing his own daughter just to meet her?!? Fking awful father
Leia then kept a jar of sand with her at all time. Anakin: (appears from nowhere) Can we just talk for a minute?” Leia: (holds up jar) “BACK! GET BACK YOU FOUL DEMON”
I feel like if might've turned out better if he didn't ask for forgiveness. But instead (sensing the darkness in her) told Leia the story of his fall. From his childhood enslavement, the meeting of Padme and leaving of his mother, the slaughter of the sand people village. The visions of his wife's death, and subsequently; his fear of losing another person he loved turning him, and then being the cause of Padme's death. Ending with something along the lines of: "I do not ask for forgiveness. But to warn. The force runs strongly in your veins as it did mine. And the stronger the force is, the harder it becomes to control it. Do not repeat my mistakes. The ones that turned me into the broken shell that was Vader. If you ever need help in that regard, call for me. Or don't. Goodbye Leia." Then he vanishes, leaving it open for other authors to explore down the road, if they come up with something interesting enough. Just my thought.
She'd always wondered what led her father to the Dark Side to become Darth Vader. She'd imagined it came from ambition, greed, or some other venal weakness. Never had she considered that the turn might have begin in a better place, out of the desire to save someone or to avenge a great wrong. Even if it led to evil, that first impulse might be born of loyalty, a sense of Justice, or even Love.
Actions born of good are not always wise, yet actions born of evil are not always foolish. Still, we must always strive for good, unless we be led astray.
For those who don't know, it's a loose transcription of one of the teachings of Martyr Logarius. The idea is that doing something righteous may end up backfiring spectacularly (such as asking a suspicious foreigner to help slay the vampire queen, only to create the next heir of Cainhurst). Conversely, doing an act that seems evil at first glance may end up being the best option in the long run (like refusing to help a girl find her blood-crazed father, which keeps her safe indoors instead of outside, where she gets mauled to death by a rabid boar). However, even if evil seems to be all that will ever be, we should always strive to do good things, as long as we're fully aware of the consequences we'll wrought.
@@ammarkhalifa9063 tbh the slaves on tattooine seem to have a better life than some real life americans right now. shmi and anakin had their own apartment! with ROOMS!
A year later, Anakin and Obi-wan are sharing drinks at the Ghost bar... Anakin: Hm!?... *looks in Leia's direction in the galaxy* Obi-wan: What is it? Anakin: I think she finally did it...*smiles*
With good direction he can pull it off. I've heard it argued that he has acted well in other movies (one of which I've seen) but the direction of the actors in the prequels kinda squandered his talent.
The Phoenix-Feathered Raven Yeah, even actors praised nowadays were rough in those movies. Hayden was considered for an Oscar nomination at one point in his career, he just wasn’t able to reach his potential due to the direction and typecasting that came with it.
I don't get it, all he did was blow up her home planet, killing almost all her loved ones, and tortured her and Han Solo and nearly killing her brother, some people are just that petty i guess
BIGSLAY nope Anakin and Vader isn't two different people but it was more like he needed to believe that so he could easily slaughter everything in the name of palpatine basically he still sounds arrogant when talking to his daughter
@@menace6734 Shame I never watched it back then I just watched stuff like Amazing world of gumball and that kinda stuff and when clone wars was on I just thought it was Rebels so I never watched it
Leia is more like Anakin while Luke is more like Padme. I’d also like to know what canon Leia would think of Anakin’s spirit. Bloodline reveals what she thought of him, but it would be nice to see his ghost appear in canon.
As a daughter who never knew her real parents. It's understandable that leia had a hard time forgiving her biological father. Because she only knew DarthVader not anakin skywalker. But I've always wondered what it would've been like to see them both having a genuine conversation like this. And after seeing this I'm really glad that this happened.
@@alexmason2659 True that's the Skywalker connection I love between the family. Leia is strong willed and stubborn. But she does have many good reasons to be like that. As for her father he was a slave to his circumstances long before he had a family of his own. Unfortunately they couldn't be the family that she could of had. But everyone makes unfortunate horrible life choices. That alters everyone's destiny. But I love how despite everything in the end her father does try to reach out to her even if it's too late. And I do like the fact that she took her time to make that decision for herself.
Luke chatted with Anakin's Force Ghost every once in a while (in Legends). I'm sure Luke eventually assured Anakin's Force Ghost that Leia had forgiven him. And certainly, once Anakin's Force Ghost had learned that Han and Leia had named their youngest son after him, he knew that BOTH Leia and Han had not only forgiven him, but were according him the highest of honors. Nobody names their own child after someone they hate.
Apparently Natalie Portman was very verbal about her dislike of the films blaming them for hurting her career, I think there is probably some edict not to write about her character.
OG was made before the Prequels That's simply the reason Nobody knew that there would be the prequels, so they didnt want to make a whole new character because of nothing.
I don't know man. I can see Leia forgiving him after reading Shime's diary, because that's such a human connection. But Darth Vader did a monumental amount of evil. "From a certain point of view" he's a different person from Anakin, but that's only one point of view. He fell to the dark side, and even after losing the wife he fell in order to save he kept doing evil. Enthusiastically so. I'm not sure if he should ever be forgiven.
@@MagikosEksMaikhina much like Leia, Vader has also been played and tricked by the galaxy. Even to the point of his own master (the emperor) planing to overthrow him. Vader was a person who would never ask for someones forgiveness.
@@MagikosEksMaikhina Vader stated himself many times that he is not anakin. He had an encounter with obi wan's force ghost where obi wan called him by that name, instantly pushing him in a rage.
I think her former feelings towards her father, Anakin and her change in perspective is what led to her belief that her son Kylo Ren could be saved, after he fell to the dark side.
I'd say this is totally how Carrie Fisher would react to a force ghost of someone she had unsolved resentment towards and totally how Hayden and her would have the conversation. lol
@@nathaniellazo5912 " Hello there Han!" "Leia stand back. "Relax, I was trying to get you guys to forgive me like Luke did, plus I helped the Rebels defeat the Empire by killing Palps!" "Okay, fine you do seem different this time around. Leia forgive him." Leia does after one hour in awkward silence. "Okay, call Luke over." And a very furry friend of ours told me you have a thing for Leia." "CHEWIE!!!!!!!" Anakin calls Obi Wan, and Yoda and Qui Gon while Leia calls Luke over and Anakin prepares dinner for them as a force ghost.
It’s like George Lucas once said “You realize that the villain was actually the victim.” Anakin was a victim of the corrupting powers of the dark side and Palpatine’s manipulation. He did terrible things but as Star Wars has taught us, even the worst beings, if shown the light have the capacity for redemption and those who understand the light side and accept the ways of the Jedi gain the capacity for forgiveness as Luke had.
Honestly she'd probably forgive him instantaneously. She actually knew Anakin and couldn't accept Vader. He was a completely different horrible person to her. One guy would literally die for her, the other literally tried to make her die.
Vader: Do you forgive me? Leia: Let’s see, You... -Kid-napped me -Blew up my home -Killed my foster dad -Stuck me with a needle by floating ball -Tortured my boyfriend...Then froze him -Tormented Luke -Killed a bunch of people, even a trash droid that was picking up some paper -Killed kids -Chocked like 80 people....Did I leave anything out? Vader: 🤔.....Yeah you’re right...BUT...We had a nice assortment of refreshments on Bespin... Leia: That was nice. Vader: So do you forgive me? Leia: ...No... Vader: 😐
It wasn't just what Shmi had recorded in the diary, it was what Anakin's friends left behind on Tattooine had said as well. Vader and Anakin were two completely different beings and most who knew him before his fall attributed the horrors he had suffered in losing his mother and what he went through in the Clone Wars for his downfall. Leia finally began to understand the man that was her father and how he became the horror that was Vader, finally forgiving him of all places...in the sands of Tattooine.
Someone already said this, and I agree: I feel like the conversation would’ve been better if he started by telling her the story of his fall to the Dark Side and how he was forgiven even if he didn’t deserve it. Then, once he’s finished, he says she probably won’t forgive him but he asks that she not make the same mistake he did, do not let anger and hate remain. I feel Leia would’ve understood that a bit better, maybe forgive him without him asking for it.
grizzledcroc Absolutely, but I feel like this is a moment that deserves to be on film. Unfortunately, this will be hard to do, with Carrie passing away and all (and the fact that Luke died in the movie) :(
Who's to say it won't. Maybe they make a book where Anakin does that. Maybe he warns her a little about Ben, and Leia ignores him. (needless to say, she wishes she didn't when she hears or Kylo Ren.)
Rilhon i agree definitely something for film. Especially if written well and directed well. It would probably be emotional. Especially for people who have had a bad relationship or lack there of with they're father.
I have no idea what Anakin was expecting Leia to do here. "Hey, I'm your dead dad, but I'm better now than I was when I blew up your planet and murdered people. Bygones?"
"I know I trapped your husband in carbonite and sold him to a Hutt gangster who also used you as a sex slave but are we good?" "NO dad we're not. We never will be."
Well, in Leia's perspective, Vader was a damn Tyrant of deeds too dark to mention. To only find out that He was her Father all along makes good dramatic irony. As now picturing your own father doing all those crimes makes forgiveness too difficult.
Rather than trying to tell her he was a different person, I feel like he should have told her to find forgiveness instead so that she wouldn't become like him. He was unable to let go of his anger and guilt, which is what drove him to the Dark Side and what caused him to do such terrible things. Telling her how the Dark Side can truly effect a person would have made her come to realize he WAS a different person, rather than him trying to say he was "a stranger asking for forgiveness".
Ernest Wang It is sad, but also understandable, she grew up with Bail as her father, unlike Luke who was told his father had died, and didn't know much about him or his mother, he knew what was told by his aunt and uncle, but always wanted to know more, and Luke was a Jedi which allowed him to more deeply see Vader, and know that Anakin was in there never truly consumed by the Dark Side, and he wanted to redeem him, to bring him to the light and save him, to Leia on the other hand he was the one who basically killed her entire family, and not just tortured her but her husband too, cut off her brother's hand, and basically caused so much suffering in the galaxy, but once she discovered who Anakin was she was more willing to forgive
Randy Cheow Because being forced sensitive doesn't mean you can understand the force, or that you can know what it means just for being force sensitive, you need to train to understand the force, also Luke and Vader had a more personal connection, and both could feel each others presence.
Well, Luke saw his father sacrifice his life to save him and the entire galaxy, he believed there was good on Vader for some time and even got a final apology. Leia got nothing, she was just asked to forgive like that.
A powerful, moving scene, glad we have it in Legends. The scene really makes you think, while showing you a very different side of things with Leia's reaction, which for some can be very unexpected as you might expect her to react like her brother did. I ended up realizing that unlike Luke, she wasn't there to witness Anakin's redemption, she she didn't see and feel what Luke experienced, plus she have the benefit of Jedi training at that time, which taught forgiveness. There is also the fact, as Leia points out, that she has personally suffered more from Vader than Luke has.
I would have loved to have seen this scene brought to life in some way. From the beginning of episode four, it was implied that Vader and Leia had a history of running into one another, which Rebels seemed to support in the way that they depicted Leia sneakily handing off ships and supplies to the rebel cells. It was always so disappointing that we didn't get to see more of a reaction from her when her parentage was revealed.
The anger of Leia is totally understandable, everything she's been through by Vader. But at the same token Vader never knew who she really was. Remember when Padme died he thought he lost the unborn child as well. Also he never knew Padme we're carrying twins and they were split up so Vader can never since them. Leia's true identify was well hidden and she had no connection to the force. So Vader thought she was an normal enemy to the Empire! Vader did torture Leia but it was Grand Moff Tarkin who the order to destroy Alderaan. But I always believed that if Vader knew that Leia is his daughter he would've never place any harm to her. If Bale Organa and Obi Wan made recordings telling Leia about her mother Padme and Anakin's relationship, as a Jedi and to explain what cause Anakin to fall to the Dark Side that probably would've made things much easier!
In the original trilogy novel (at least in the version I have), before the duel in the throne room, Luke suggests Vader that he probably didn't get to kill Leia in "A new hope" because he felt an instinctive Force connection to her. Im not sure if that part appears in the film.
Leia is force sensitive, in Legends she completes her training and becomes a Jedi as well. In the shitty Disney movies she also uses the force, and even becomes a force ghost.
I can really relate to this. I've had to forgive my father for some...serious shit. Not all things he's done to me, some he did to hurt others that had major consequences. My brothers always had more of a connection with him and were easy to forgive him for the fucked up things he did. He was abusive. Violent. And if he figured he didn't want to talk to you again, he'd never make an effort or see/talk to you again. When he was dying, I struggled with myself to even see him. The night he had a heart attack, the day before my birthday and 4 days before Christmas, I spent some time deciding whether or not I should go see him or even leave work. My coworkers convinced me. I left to be with my mother, but I didn't go see him. It was agony to see him in the hospital. Not solely due to sadness for seeing him there, nor the pain he was in. I didn't want to be there. He had been hallucinating and slipping mentally, reverting to the violent, furious, old pest I remembered. The same pain I felt the night he punched me. The same pain I felt every single time he got in my face, screaming at the top of his lungs. How everyone glossed over the fact that he'd been in jail and molested at least 14 children--that we knew of. He was charged with 14, I have no doubt in my mind that there were more over his lifetime. The first night I saw him in hospital [I believe the night after the heart attack--my birthday] I left after 10 minutes. I couldn't do it anymore. He was treating my mother like shit, talking to her like a dog---just the way I hated growing up. I don't even think he realized I was there, all he could think of was getting out of the hospital and getting a pack of cigarettes. I knew that face he was making--that tone he was using, and I knew violence would soon chase it. I didn't go back for days, maybe a week--maybe two. I can't really remember. When I did, we actually had a good afternoon. The doctors had given him some kind of antipsychotic or very mild sedative, because he wasn't violent or agitated. The entire time, I anticipated it to go south rather quickly with the mention of a word, or a particularly long conversational pause. But it didn't. I'm oddly thankful for that time together, but it does little to numb the years of pain. It was after he died that I was forced to cope with everything left unsaid, undone, and emotions left to fester and rot. I've forgiven him, but I think I'll forever hurt with who he was half the time. The only reason, the key, for me to forgive was in knowing he was raised being beaten, molested, and left on the streets by his step father. His mother was a drunk and knew of the sexual abuse, but did nothing. The step father would prompt my father to go with him [for sexual things] and say if he didn't willingly come with him, he would take one of his younger siblings and do it with them. I'm sure Dad would have been a better person, if he hadn't fled his country as a young child due to war and lived as he did, but that wasn't the case. I get what she's feeling here. If I didn't know what I knew about my dad's upbringing, I don't know if I'd ever have forgiven him or even gone to see him when he died.
Woah, your father's life was fucked, once again I can see we are the products of our background, had he had better childhood, he would not be a bad person
@@erenliebert4576 I think so too because I could tell he had started out with a good heart. It just got messed up unbelievably by the callous actions of others.
@@sarahlennox3528 "The defining background experiences of our childhood affect our vital adulthood decisions and method of apprehending the world." Kilroy J. Oldster, Anyways, learn to accept and forgive, but not forget, in order to get experience from situation. Stay strong, girl, have good life
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Old one was better.
it shows channel's progress
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"You destroyed my home"
"It had sand"
archpigeon such an underrated comment lmao
😂😂😂
Technically, Tarkin did, but he just let it happen
Did you say sand TRIGGERED!!!
*F A C T S*
Leia: "I'm scared"
Anakin: "hi scared, i'm dad"
😂
bruh
Only a sith deals in dad jokes.
Nice one
glitch107 be careful not to choke on your aspirations
Anakin: Forgive me
Leia: No
Anakin: Dew it
Leia: No
Anakain: huh, usually works.
@@cryojudgement2376 *CORRECTION* it usually worked on YOU.
He forgot to tell her of the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise that's why it didn't work.
I was the 666th like. Just leaving this here to remember
Leia: Oh! oh okay!
Anakin: Wow. I really didn't expect you to forgive me, having allowed Alderran to be blown up and everything. I thought you would have had a tad anger in you, since you're my daughter.
Anakin ghost: *reveals himself*
Leia: *gets mad*
Anakin: Chill kid, i was forgiven
the force showed him mercy.
@@SPIDERVENOM1000 cause it has such *great* judgement and choices
@@TheReZisTLust they're not the same thing. i don't believe irredeemable people go to hell-i believe they just die. would death be merciful compaired to eternal torment?
@@SPIDERVENOM1000 are you actually talking about real life..?
@@TheReZisTLust yes-i couldn't find a better example. neither is forgiveness but one is much more merciful than the other.
Leia: GO AWAY
Anakin: I don’t have much time. So anyways there is this guy named Darth Plagueis....
lmao
I would like but your at 69 votes soooooooooo
@@vacantsix1586 sooooooooooo....you're immature
@@mattmcgovern6591 ...... Yes
@@vacantsix1586 ha 169th like
Anakin: Leia, I am your father.
Leia: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Darth pretty much what happened
That's impossible!!!
It runs in the family huh
Actually I think it'd be like
Leia: Well you're a failure of a father then
Lol she would be even more shocked then Luke was
Anakin: *ignites lightsaber* from my point of view you should f***king forgive me
Don’t try it
This is outrageous how can I not be granted the rank of forgiven?
It’s over Anakin
Then you are unforgivable
YOU WERE THE FORGIVEN ONE
Leia- "Han I saw the ghost of Darth Vader in our bedroom"
Han thinking to himself- this chick is weird.
Luigi pops out of nowhere: " You know what they say - crazy in the head, crazy in the bed "
First she kissed her brother, now she’s seeing ghosts. After our first kid I’m out
HAHHA
"Is he watching us now?"
"No"
"Good"
Thats a weird feetish indeed. 😂😂
Leia is her fathers daughter. She just doesn't see it. Luke got more of his mother and grandmother in him.
Seems Luke got the piloting half from Anakin though ^^;
luke didn't suffer as much as leia did.
I disagree. Leia was more like Padme than Anakin. Leia had that spitfire attitude in her like Padme did, Luke was whiny and impatient like Anakin was.
Sabertooth Eh, I beg to differ.
Troy McKinney Luke WAS impatient. He became soft and understanding like Shmi snd Padmé later on. Most people believe Luke is like Padmé than Anakin.
Leia: "I'll never forgive you for what you've done to Han Solo"
Anakin/Vader: "Uh... Is he like ur boyfriend or something?"
Rapha Monte Like Avengers Infinity War:
Han: *points gun at Vader*
Leia: Not him, Han! You promised!
Vader: Ah, the boyfriend..
@@blademidnights that was endgame not infinity war
Pillow Man no it was during the time when drax, mantis, quill, and gamora were looking for the collector. thanos grabbed gamora and held her, and peter quill pulled out his gun and pointed it at thanos. you can check. quill and gamora were both dead during endgame until later on in the movie.
@@blademidnights fuck you're right my bad idk why I was thinking it was endgame
@Kathlyne Guillot Which he miserably failed to do.
Vader was an unforgivable monster who needed to be put down
Anakin was a confused young man who was manipulated.
@tanio12 i woudnt be so sure, palpatines manipulation is extremely powerful, anakin was basically under a spell of the darkside, just as ben solo was
Simplesean indeed the films really don’t do any of the characters true justice. When reading more about how powerful and manipulating Palpatine was, you begin to understand how easy it was for naive Anakin to slip to the dark side. For me after reading and learning more from the comics and novels I appreciated the prequels far more.
he was also very unstable
Pungeon Bysteam4 for sure, he always hung onto the things he was supposed to let go of making it easier for fear to creep it’s way into Anakin allowing anger and hate to follow.
@@AlittleIron this may sound dumb but i kinda relate to that
In Vader's defense Han did repeatedly try to shoot him with a blaster.
Darth " Oh, you did'nt have to bring anything, let's just have some dinner."
He shot first
Yeh true.
Yeh Vader only wanted to have Lunch
Han shot at Vader because he was black. LMAO
I can understand Leia's distrust. She never really 'bonded' with Anakin the way Luke did.
Its ironic cause there more similar than luke
kittylactose yea cause everyone “bonds” with their dad by fighting with him to the point where he cuts ur hand off
@@Ash-ow9ef because luke knew there was good in his father as there were 2 sides of him, Anakin, and Darth Vader
I mean he did blow up her planet and torture her. And she is a chick
@@swimmer8585 what is different with a chick?
It's funny that Han forgave Vader long before Leia did.
Its interesting that in the force awakens han says "theres to much vader in him" referring to kylo
@Mustache Merlin hell does Han even care? im really asking beacuse i havent seen the OT in years, and im not even sure. But i remember he just kinda didn't even cared that he died or that he even was a thing.
Lanxerun he would’ve cared that Leia cared
@@FoOLiShGuAcBoWLMeRCHanT Correction : you don't care, yet you care enough just to write that comment. go away, crying for the 1000th time about Disney is what no one cares about here.
@@FoOLiShGuAcBoWLMeRCHanT bark bark
You are in this family, but we do not grant you the rank of forgiveness.
Anakin : What ? How can you do this ? It's outrageous, it's un...
Obi-Wan: Anakin, not again please
Yoda: Shut the fuck up, you must
easy eevee Luke: god damn it dad
@@andywu1981 anakin: what? She was being rude to me
@easy eevee
Obi-wan: i hate it when he does that
Judgment Mace Windu : *Screams in muthafucka *
I really wanted a
Anakin:....you look just like her you know
Leia: WHO?!!!
Anakin:.......your mother
leia looked more like anakin
Id say leia looks more like shmi
Saharsh Adhikari nah Leia is a perfect mix of Padmé and Anakin, Luke is more on Anakin lookin
Their stares tho
Me too!
He tortured her and her husband, cut her brother's hand off, and blew up her planet. Kinda understandable she reacts this way, even if he is her father.
He didnt blow up alderaan. Tarkin blew up alderaan.
@@generalgrevious815 Though Vader did nothing to prevent that to happen and just watched Alderaan being destroyed
@@DrNefarious-rw1dm He didnt just sit there and watch, he literally held her in place and prevented her from being able to take any action to stop it from happening herself and forced her to watch helplessly.
@@toradora1439 She could do nothing even if he didn't hold her, she was sorrounded by imperial personnel, she would have been shot if she tried to stop them
@@DrNefarious-rw1dm True, but she was even willing to risk being shot in order to stop them, as we saw when Tarkin told the crewman to fire and told her she was too trusting.
She tried to struggle her way out of Vaders grasp (in vain), but he held on to her too tightly, just like an evil villan would.
He wasnt some innocent bystandard in all of this like some others are trying to argue.
Star wars episode 9
Leia builds her own death star to use against the first order and names it Aldarans revenge
No it’s the right back at’cha
4 billion Oscars
That's stupid
I want that death star, You can call it stupid you moist baguette but the world needs way more Death Stars!
momiji lily oml
In Vader’s defense he didn’t know Leia was his daughter until he died.
I think that's the point. It shouldn't matter. It made him a horrible person regardless. Whether she was his daughter or not, he was a horrible person as Vader. She's not aware of Anakin Skywalker's personality, who he was. At least Luke had some insight into who Anakin was.
@@sarahlennox3528 It's also the fact that Leia didn't know *why* Anakin became Vader to begin with. Had she known it was actually the result of Anakin's love for Padme being warped and twisted by Palpatine's manipulations, she likely would have been quicker to forgive Anakin....and to hate Palpatine even more for corrupting something as pure as Anakin's love for his wife (and Leia's mother).
@@gamester512 As a daughter who harboured a lot of hatred for her father, I get it for those reasons, but I also understand that in her position, she doesn't want to understand his reasoning. To her, there's no reasoning that could equate to his actions. She never knew the truth behind why Anakin turned, and with her limited scope, she didn't much care. The anger prevents you from getting too curious, and just like her father, she's an angry person lol. I mean, we got a front row seat to Anakin's fall. I cried my bloody face off during the epic fight between Obi Wan and Anakin in Revenge of the Sith. Cried like a baby. But, I've read how she grew up and became involved in the Rebels and whatnot, and it gives you a good vantage point as Leia. Vader killed her parents, as far as she's concerned. I don't think she ever wanted to know more about him or care to wonder anything, he's no more than the man that murdered her parents, her planet, tortured her, Han, and tried to set the galaxy on fire, basically lol. I don't know, that's just how I see it. You may have already, but the book "Leia: Princess of Aldaraan" by Claudia Gray is an excellent book that shows you about Leia's upbringing.
bruh that makes that worse. Not only is he a dickhead to supposed strangers, he never even bothered pursuing his own daughter just to meet her?!?
Fking awful father
@@sarahlennox3528 If Luke being his son made him redeem himself then if he knew Leia was his daughter maybe could have stopped Alderan's destruction
Leia then kept a jar of sand with her at all time.
Anakin: (appears from nowhere) Can we just talk for a minute?”
Leia: (holds up jar) “BACK! GET BACK YOU FOUL DEMON”
I got a jar of dirt. I got a jar of dirt.
@@arend681 are you calling jar jar literal dirt?
Anakin: 0_0
Sen pirates of the Caribbean reference
I don’t like sand it’s course,rough,irritating and it gets everywhere
I feel like if might've turned out better if he didn't ask for forgiveness.
But instead (sensing the darkness in her) told Leia the story of his fall. From his childhood enslavement, the meeting of Padme and leaving of his mother, the slaughter of the sand people village.
The visions of his wife's death, and subsequently; his fear of losing another person he loved turning him, and then being the cause of Padme's death.
Ending with something along the lines of:
"I do not ask for forgiveness. But to warn.
The force runs strongly in your veins as it did mine. And the stronger the force is, the harder it becomes to control it.
Do not repeat my mistakes. The ones that turned me into the broken shell that was Vader.
If you ever need help in that regard, call for me.
Or don't.
Goodbye Leia."
Then he vanishes, leaving it open for other authors to explore down the road, if they come up with something interesting enough.
Just my thought.
Yes
Yes that would make Vader sound far less like an arrogant twat.
It's a good thought indeed.
I like it.
Celrek_Lonebomb dude write this story! It’s good!
Anakin: Vader.... YOU TURNED HER AGAINST ME!!!!!!
Vader: You have done that yourself!
Wait that doesn't make sense
@@dj24617 kinda does
You will not take her from me
🤣😂😅😣😖😫😭
“You destroyed my planet”
Anakin: “Why do you think it was yellow...”
Anakin Skywalker fax
That was Tarkin tho
It wasn't Vader tho
Saaaaaannndd
Anakin told me about that he was very sad about it..
Hello there
@@obi-wankenobi6456 *GENERAL KENO-* (sees two) "this is getting out of hand now there are two of them"
Oh um this is interesting
visible confusion
@@sedxh shit I ruined it
You forgot to mention that how when she forgave him she named her second son after him
Depthcharger44 imagine naming your second child Adolph
Anakin Solo
Ro Jay that is not a good example
And she unforgave him when Artoo showed them the holorecording of him choking padme.
Jaime Diaz I heard about that.. what novel was that on?
She'd always wondered what led her father to the Dark Side to become Darth Vader. She'd imagined it came from ambition, greed, or some other venal weakness. Never had she considered that the turn might have begin in a better place, out of the desire to save someone or to avenge a great wrong. Even if it led to evil, that first impulse might be born of loyalty, a sense of Justice, or even Love.
Actions born of good are not always wise, yet actions born of evil are not always foolish. Still, we must always strive for good, unless we be led astray.
David Hong: Wise words my friend. 😉
David Hong I don't understand a word you just said brother but I'll keep that in mind lol
For those who don't know, it's a loose transcription of one of the teachings of Martyr Logarius.
The idea is that doing something righteous may end up backfiring spectacularly (such as asking a suspicious foreigner to help slay the vampire queen, only to create the next heir of Cainhurst).
Conversely, doing an act that seems evil at first glance may end up being the best option in the long run (like refusing to help a girl find her blood-crazed father, which keeps her safe indoors instead of outside, where she gets mauled to death by a rabid boar).
However, even if evil seems to be all that will ever be, we should always strive to do good things, as long as we're fully aware of the consequences we'll wrought.
David Hong: Wise words indeed. 😅
I actually love how in this leia finds shmi’s diary and had read about anakin as a child.
how does shmi have money for a diary... how does she pay for pencils and stuff... where did she learn to write??? she's a slave!!
@@ammarkhalifa9063 tbh the slaves on tattooine seem to have a better life than some real life americans right now. shmi and anakin had their own apartment! with ROOMS!
@@Vivi-kb6mr LOL true!
She writes about me?
@@Vivi-kb6mr There are no slaves in America smart one
A year later, Anakin and Obi-wan are sharing drinks at the Ghost bar...
Anakin: Hm!?... *looks in Leia's direction in the galaxy*
Obi-wan: What is it?
Anakin: I think she finally did it...*smiles*
Sepulchre13 ? Hol up. What?
@@cherub550 Forgave him.
Oh gosh hahahaha
Yoda walks in
Yoda: Forgiven you she has
More likely, Obi-Wan would've probably said, "I sensed it, too"
She probably threw pocket sand at him to scare him off.....
By sand you mean the dust of alderon?
He didn't come back b/c she used a palre and shovel (or sandpaper) dreamcatcher.
Is that a king of the hill reference
Fenn Rau skit!
THE POWER OF SAND COMPELS YOU *repeats 1000 times
The first thing Anakin said to his daughter, “I don’t like sand.”
Ashberryvillage10 not funny anymore. Not bad dialouge. Not funny joke.
Chris Hall 33 people still think it’s funny :b
+Chris Hall You've been living under a rock the whole time huh?
iKenneth I been active in the community. Don’t hate :b
That’s also why I have 55 likes for this. Thanks UA-cam Fam!
Mmmmmmm FUNNNNYYYYYYY JOKE
Leia: *I HATE YOU*
Anakin: You are my daughter, Leia. I loved you.
"loved"
Imagine Hayden Christensen saying “I am your father”
With good direction he can pull it off. I've heard it argued that he has acted well in other movies (one of which I've seen) but the direction of the actors in the prequels kinda squandered his talent.
Hayden Christensen you mean?
@@Zerberster213 I...I didn't even notice...😳
Looney Channel i cant like this comment
The Phoenix-Feathered Raven Yeah, even actors praised nowadays were rough in those movies. Hayden was considered for an Oscar nomination at one point in his career, he just wasn’t able to reach his potential due to the direction and typecasting that came with it.
Anakin after his confrontation with his daughter-
"WHAT HAVE I DONE?"
Anakin and Vader basically two different people. Leia anger is understandable tho.
I don't get it, all he did was blow up her home planet, killing almost all her loved ones, and tortured her and Han Solo and nearly killing her brother, some people are just that petty i guess
its kind of like darth revan he was pretty much 2 different people himself
No. They're inseparable. There is not one without the other.
BIGSLAY nope Anakin and Vader isn't two different people but it was more like he needed to believe that so he could easily slaughter everything in the name of palpatine basically he still sounds arrogant when talking to his daughter
Todd Whelan LIAR
Leia finally saw her father as a hero and a role model after seeing Star wars the Clone wars
Mood, honestly.
Lol. She just puts on Cartoon Network. Damn those were the good days. Cartoon Network. Childhood. Wtf Nostalgia outta nowhere 😂
@@menace6734 Shame I never watched it back then I just watched stuff like Amazing world of gumball and that kinda stuff and when clone wars was on I just thought it was Rebels so I never watched it
@@Philip54622 breh u should watch it its amazing but the last season and last 2 episodes broke my heart
Anakin: General Grievous your shorter than I expected
Leia: Aren’t you a little short to be a storm trooper
See the resemblance 😂😂😂
You're*
How tall is Luke? And how tall are Stormtroopers supposed to be? That line always confused me he doesn't look short to me
MIKE2111ful Luke is maybe 1m75 I guess
@@aniisky that doesn't help much I wanted to know how tall he was in feet how much 1.75 in feet?
MIKE2111ful 5’8 🤷♀️
Leia is more like Anakin while Luke is more like Padme. I’d also like to know what canon Leia would think of Anakin’s spirit. Bloodline reveals what she thought of him, but it would be nice to see his ghost appear in canon.
She still considered Bail her only farther.
Nah! Have some Porgs instead.
We have seen his ghost. In RotJ
TheBurgerHut7 How does she feel about him in bloodlines?
I want know what she thought about vader
When Leia saw Anakin she probably said “Aren’t you are little short for a force ghost.” 😂😂😂
Elemental Jedi anakin is 6:2 I think
@@DaFuzeHdTV its a reference to what anakin said to grievous
@@RayTC i see.
@@RayTC Pretty sure it is what Leia said to Luke when he was wearing that stormtrooper armour the first time they met.
“General Skywalker. You're shorter than I expected.”
“Rebel scum...”
As a daughter who never knew her real parents. It's understandable that leia had a hard time forgiving her biological father. Because she only knew DarthVader not anakin skywalker. But I've always wondered what it would've been like to see them both having a genuine conversation like this. And after seeing this I'm really glad that this happened.
Well that's because Leia doesn't have her mother's heart and is unforgiving like Vader was Luke was forgiving like Padme
@@alexmason2659 True that's the Skywalker connection I love between the family. Leia is strong willed and stubborn. But she does have many good reasons to be like that. As for her father he was a slave to his circumstances long before he had a family of his own. Unfortunately they couldn't be the family that she could of had. But everyone makes unfortunate horrible life choices. That alters everyone's destiny. But I love how despite everything in the end her father does try to reach out to her even if it's too late. And I do like the fact that she took her time to make that decision for herself.
*Leia:* "It's _not_ funny anymore, Anakin!"
*Anakin:* "Then _why_ am I laughing?! Hahahahahahaha!"
YEEEEEESSS
Allykins17 brilliant. Oh, god, how I miss that woman...
Me too...
Big Bang Theory?
Yep.
Luke chatted with Anakin's Force Ghost every once in a while (in Legends). I'm sure Luke eventually assured Anakin's Force Ghost that Leia had forgiven him. And certainly, once Anakin's Force Ghost had learned that Han and Leia had named their youngest son after him, he knew that BOTH Leia and Han had not only forgiven him, but were according him the highest of honors. Nobody names their own child after someone they hate.
Apparently in canon anakins force ghost was lukes Master, he taught him everything he knows about the force after the events of rotj
Simplesean I hope RoS explains that
@@fuzionbeast7332 probably not
Legends is infinitely better than what we have in this current version.
What books explain all these??
It must've been weird for her seeing her dad like as old as she was
"damn dad you really aged well"
They probably appeared the same age
He appeared to her in his Episode 3 form. So he would've been like 23
@@andrewpestotnik5495 *Gasp* NOooooo, really?!
And not as a black armored cyborged.
It makes me angry that padme is barely mentioned at all, its like anakin doesnt remember her and neither do the writers
Apparently Natalie Portman was very verbal about her dislike of the films blaming them for hurting her career, I think there is probably some edict not to write about her character.
OG was made before the Prequels
That's simply the reason
Nobody knew that there would be the prequels, so they didnt want to make a whole new character because of nothing.
@@tusko9115 Pretty sure it was all written then anyway
@@louis8487 characters are seperate from the actor tho who cares what natalie portman thinks about the prequels, she did them anyway
I believe in legends it's actually force ghost Obi Wan who tells Luke a little about Padme at some point.
I find it really touching and heartwarming that Shmi helped redeem Anakin to his daughter from beyond the grave.
Leia is deffinitly the most like Anakin
Kool aid man is more like anakin..😒
@@ricardoiturralde5337 OH YEEEAAAH
I don´t know if anakin had a sister i don´t think they would have lip locked.
lukes a mamas boy
Yup a manipulative evil bitch
This is what would realistically happen
I don't know man. I can see Leia forgiving him after reading Shime's diary, because that's such a human connection.
But Darth Vader did a monumental amount of evil. "From a certain point of view" he's a different person from Anakin, but that's only one point of view. He fell to the dark side, and even after losing the wife he fell in order to save he kept doing evil. Enthusiastically so. I'm not sure if he should ever be forgiven.
@@MagikosEksMaikhina much like Leia, Vader has also been played and tricked by the galaxy. Even to the point of his own master (the emperor) planing to overthrow him. Vader was a person who would never ask for someones forgiveness.
@@MagikosEksMaikhina Vader stated himself many times that he is not anakin. He had an encounter with obi wan's force ghost where obi wan called him by that name, instantly pushing him in a rage.
I think her former feelings towards her father, Anakin and her change in perspective is what led to her belief that her son Kylo Ren could be saved, after he fell to the dark side.
I'd say this is totally how Carrie Fisher would react to a force ghost of someone she had unsolved resentment towards and totally how Hayden and her would have the conversation. lol
Entertaining that Han laughed at her.
Darth Vader's in your closet? Okay, let's go look...
Open's the closet...
Anakin: Hello Han!
@@nathaniellazo5912 " Hello there Han!"
"Leia stand back.
"Relax, I was trying to get you guys to forgive me like Luke did, plus I helped the Rebels defeat the Empire by killing Palps!"
"Okay, fine you do seem different this time around. Leia forgive him."
Leia does after one hour in awkward silence.
"Okay, call Luke over." And a very furry friend of ours told me you have a thing for Leia."
"CHEWIE!!!!!!!"
Anakin calls Obi Wan, and Yoda and Qui Gon while Leia calls Luke over and Anakin prepares dinner for them as a force ghost.
I read that in Harrison Ford's voice
It’s like George Lucas once said “You realize that the villain was actually the victim.” Anakin was a victim of the corrupting powers of the dark side and Palpatine’s manipulation. He did terrible things but as Star Wars has taught us, even the worst beings, if shown the light have the capacity for redemption and those who understand the light side and accept the ways of the Jedi gain the capacity for forgiveness as Luke had.
Perhaps but when I see that he slaughtered many many innocent people I feel no compassion for him.
Just because you have a change of heart, doesn't mean you are free from having to pay for your sins.
@@klaudiagrob we’re talking about a fictional character right?
I wonder how Ahsoka will react to Meeting Anakin as a Force Ghost?
We need to see this in canon!
She ded son
Ethianne Ortuño u sure? She’s looking for esra I think
@@Hollow_Vessel0 she isn't. Last moments of the last episode of rebels take place after episode 6. And Ashoka is still alive looking for Esra.
Honestly she'd probably forgive him instantaneously. She actually knew Anakin and couldn't accept Vader. He was a completely different horrible person to her. One guy would literally die for her, the other literally tried to make her die.
This just piles up on to the fact how tragic Vader is as a character
Vader: Do you forgive me?
Leia: Let’s see, You...
-Kid-napped me
-Blew up my home
-Killed my foster dad
-Stuck me with a needle by floating ball
-Tortured my boyfriend...Then froze him
-Tormented Luke
-Killed a bunch of people, even a trash droid that was picking up some paper
-Killed kids
-Chocked like 80 people....Did I leave anything out?
Vader: 🤔.....Yeah you’re right...BUT...We had a nice assortment of refreshments on Bespin...
Leia: That was nice.
Vader: So do you forgive me?
Leia: ...No...
Vader: 😐
Sorry bit laya isn't incent either is her adopted father.
in all honestly, i don't think he deserve forgivness, but i am kinda glad he did
Nickspencer Fishing rod :D why don’t I deserve forgiveness when I’m older and might become Darth Vader ☹️
@@BumblebeeZL11LE Well I think you don't deserve that but I wanted you to be forgiven either way.
Rajesh Kathiriya well you should say that to older me the son who slaughtered every youngling in the temple
Leia: you destroyed my home
Anakin: there was sand on that planet
Sand, the mother of all evil. I mean just look at korriban
And send was too dangerous to be kept alive
This is so sad because it's so realistic. I wish I could've heard more, and she met him again.
It wasn't just what Shmi had recorded in the diary, it was what Anakin's friends left behind on Tattooine had said as well. Vader and Anakin were two completely different beings and most who knew him before his fall attributed the horrors he had suffered in losing his mother and what he went through in the Clone Wars for his downfall. Leia finally began to understand the man that was her father and how he became the horror that was Vader, finally forgiving him of all places...in the sands of Tattooine.
Someone already said this, and I agree: I feel like the conversation would’ve been better if he started by telling her the story of his fall to the Dark Side and how he was forgiven even if he didn’t deserve it. Then, once he’s finished, he says she probably won’t forgive him but he asks that she not make the same mistake he did, do not let anger and hate remain. I feel Leia would’ve understood that a bit better, maybe forgive him without him asking for it.
Showing up as a ghost after you have died and committed all these horrendous crimes is the least sensitive thing Anakin could have done.
@@zaryalace7475Nah, its sounds like a thing Anakin would do😂
I wish we had this happen in Canon, to Luke or Leia...
It still could, plenty room in those 30 years :0
grizzledcroc Absolutely, but I feel like this is a moment that deserves to be on film. Unfortunately, this will be hard to do, with Carrie passing away and all (and the fact that Luke died in the movie) :(
Who's to say it won't. Maybe they make a book where Anakin does that. Maybe he warns her a little about Ben, and Leia ignores him. (needless to say, she wishes she didn't when she hears or Kylo Ren.)
Rilhon i agree definitely something for film. Especially if written well and directed well. It would probably be emotional. Especially for people who have had a bad relationship or lack there of with they're father.
that will never happen because Disney is inferior.
You didn’t mention how she named her son Anakin after she forgave him.
It was Ben Solo?
@@professorpyg505 Ben is the new canon. Leia's son Anakin is from Legends,before disney bought star wars
Surprised to her shmi’s diary, that’s a sweet touch
Anakin- “ it’s just a phase right?”
I have no idea what Anakin was expecting Leia to do here. "Hey, I'm your dead dad, but I'm better now than I was when I blew up your planet and murdered people. Bygones?"
It's been a long time since he tried this "Being a good person" thing, okay? He's trying his best.
"I know I trapped your husband in carbonite and sold him to a Hutt gangster who also used you as a sex slave but are we good?"
"NO dad we're not. We never will be."
“Princess, you need to learn to let goooo...oh help me we’re a peaceful planet! You may fire when ready. Kaboom!! Alderaan chunks everywhere!”
We were bad but now we’re good
Well, in Leia's perspective, Vader was a damn Tyrant of deeds too dark to mention. To only find out that He was her Father all along makes good dramatic irony. As now picturing your own father doing all those crimes makes forgiveness too difficult.
Leia: "You tortured me!"
Anakin: "Well, uhhh... didn't you get my Ziggy card?"
Alastor999 robot chicken reference. Nice.
Leía:????????
1:28 Vader: "Be careful with your anger as that can lead to the dark side."
Leia: "Be careful with *MY* anger?"
"Wow dad... you looked like a boy band reject."
Donsmacker1 no, she told you that Vader let Luke win, because there was no way Luke had the power to win without being a Mary sue
*"YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER!"*
To be fair all of the Skywalker males looked boyish at some point in their lives
Ikr
Donsmacker1 Haha
This Legends story made me tear up a bit.
Killeric Longstar ikr it made me feel really bad :’(
Killeric Longstar Disney Canon is shit
The really bad part to me is how she never saw his spirit again =/
This is the stuff Disney should focus on, not who poes ex girlfriend was and shit like that
No new movies can compare to lucas films from the skywalker saga
Rouge One was good but also because it had to do with the originals
Legends: you mean the true canon?
The ONLY canon
Yeeaaah fuck disney actually no they dont deserve getting fucked because they are so bad
Anakin's ghost " don't worry I'm not Darth Vader anymore I'm p much a stranger"
Leia "that's not how it works bucko"
Poor Anakin
Robert the dude Poor Annie? He's Like Hitler On A Galactic Level.
Maggoty Bread I'd say that honor would go to Palpatine
I agree
TheDukeOfPannekoeken as a kid
Saeid Radder
As an adult.
Why couldn't we have moments like these in the Sequels?
Obi-Wan Kenobi nope 👎🏻. Disney Canon is shit!
Because disney needs to sell more porg toys
Because they are incompetent and care more about politics
It wouldn't matter. People would still bitch about it.
Shitty writing
Thank the force my daughter forgave me in the end,lol.
Anakin Skywalker Also she killed Jaba The Hutt. Thought you would be proud.
Unfortunately she realized everything too late ☹
I know now not to become vader
@@alexisgraziano couldn't luke tell anakin that leia forgive him
Sucks that this is Legends, I would love to see this become canon! It’s a really good story.
That's why Disney would ruin it if the bring it into their "canon"
Quality Autism yeah good point 😔
even as crappy as legends often was as far as i'm concerned it's way more canon than the disneyverse garbage that doesn't even try
Boom you said Cannon not canon
@@Philip54622 Lol. 😂
see even legends agree with lucas change in anakin force ghost appearance change to Hayden Christensen appearance
this was made Before the Prequels.
So technically Lucas agreed with the EU
SO THE EU predicted hayden as anakin
Just good casting
Well to be fair the og ghost vader made no damn sense
damn. this legitimately made me feel sad about their relationship. touching end at least.
Completely off topic, but the were smart to send Luke to Tatooine, because it is covered in sand.
Rather than trying to tell her he was a different person, I feel like he should have told her to find forgiveness instead so that she wouldn't become like him. He was unable to let go of his anger and guilt, which is what drove him to the Dark Side and what caused him to do such terrible things. Telling her how the Dark Side can truly effect a person would have made her come to realize he WAS a different person, rather than him trying to say he was "a stranger asking for forgiveness".
obi-wan had the high ground on Utapau but it didn't matter
commander Cody I swear that is the most under look scene in rots, kenobis weakness
HellDoggyjr do you want a job at the 212th?
He Survived so HİGH GROUND MATTERS
commander Cody so AT-TEs can beat the high ground. we need you back in the empire man.
commander Cody why aren't you at your post?
This has always been one of my favorite legends moments.
He should’ve gotten Leia a “I’m sorry I ...” card lol
Leia: How dare you! You have stolen my dreams and my childhood!
After she walked off, it would be hilarious is Anakin whispered....”Bitch” then vanished
Honestly, I feel sad to hear when Leia rejects her recent redeemed father and I feel bad for Anakin.
Ernest Wang
It is sad, but also understandable, she grew up with Bail as her father, unlike Luke who was told his father had died, and didn't know much about him or his mother, he knew what was told by his aunt and uncle, but always wanted to know more, and Luke was a Jedi which allowed him to more deeply see Vader, and know that Anakin was in there never truly consumed by the Dark Side, and he wanted to redeem him, to bring him to the light and save him, to Leia on the other hand he was the one who basically killed her entire family, and not just tortured her but her husband too, cut off her brother's hand, and basically caused so much suffering in the galaxy, but once she discovered who Anakin was she was more willing to forgive
CPU Purple Heart/Neptune
But Leia is also force sensitive, why can't she sense her father just like Luke
Randy Cheow
Because being forced sensitive doesn't mean you can understand the force, or that you can know what it means just for being force sensitive, you need to train to understand the force, also Luke and Vader had a more personal connection, and both could feel each others presence.
unless ure name is Rey of course. She's hardly had any Jedi training and she could probably beat Darth Sidious! lol. smh.
Well, Luke saw his father sacrifice his life to save him and the entire galaxy, he believed there was good on Vader for some time and even got a final apology. Leia got nothing, she was just asked to forgive like that.
A powerful, moving scene, glad we have it in Legends. The scene really makes you think, while showing you a very different side of things with Leia's reaction, which for some can be very unexpected as you might expect her to react like her brother did. I ended up realizing that unlike Luke, she wasn't there to witness Anakin's redemption, she she didn't see and feel what Luke experienced, plus she have the benefit of Jedi training at that time, which taught forgiveness. There is also the fact, as Leia points out, that she has personally suffered more from Vader than Luke has.
I would have loved to have seen this scene brought to life in some way. From the beginning of episode four, it was implied that Vader and Leia had a history of running into one another, which Rebels seemed to support in the way that they depicted Leia sneakily handing off ships and supplies to the rebel cells. It was always so disappointing that we didn't get to see more of a reaction from her when her parentage was revealed.
Nice intro but adding some details to the Death Star would make it incredible
The anger of Leia is totally understandable, everything she's been through by Vader. But at the same token Vader never knew who she really was. Remember when Padme died he thought he lost the unborn child as well. Also he never knew Padme we're carrying twins and they were split up so Vader can never since them. Leia's true identify was well hidden and she had no connection to the force. So Vader thought she was an normal enemy to the Empire! Vader did torture Leia but it was Grand Moff Tarkin who the order to destroy Alderaan.
But I always believed that if Vader knew that Leia is his daughter he would've never place any harm to her.
If Bale Organa and Obi Wan made recordings telling Leia about her mother Padme and Anakin's relationship, as a Jedi and to explain what cause Anakin to fall to the Dark Side that probably would've made things much easier!
In the original trilogy novel (at least in the version I have), before the duel in the throne room, Luke suggests Vader that he probably didn't get to kill Leia in "A new hope" because he felt an instinctive Force connection to her. Im not sure if that part appears in the film.
Leia is force sensitive, in Legends she completes her training and becomes a Jedi as well. In the shitty Disney movies she also uses the force, and even becomes a force ghost.
No one other than the Jedi themselves knew Anakin fell to the darkside everyone thought he was dead like everyone else
It’s cool
To see how Leia has more of her fathers personality in her and Luke takes after his mother. Would of loved to see Leia as a Jedi
I can really relate to this. I've had to forgive my father for some...serious shit. Not all things he's done to me, some he did to hurt others that had major consequences. My brothers always had more of a connection with him and were easy to forgive him for the fucked up things he did. He was abusive. Violent. And if he figured he didn't want to talk to you again, he'd never make an effort or see/talk to you again. When he was dying, I struggled with myself to even see him. The night he had a heart attack, the day before my birthday and 4 days before Christmas, I spent some time deciding whether or not I should go see him or even leave work. My coworkers convinced me. I left to be with my mother, but I didn't go see him.
It was agony to see him in the hospital. Not solely due to sadness for seeing him there, nor the pain he was in. I didn't want to be there. He had been hallucinating and slipping mentally, reverting to the violent, furious, old pest I remembered. The same pain I felt the night he punched me. The same pain I felt every single time he got in my face, screaming at the top of his lungs. How everyone glossed over the fact that he'd been in jail and molested at least 14 children--that we knew of. He was charged with 14, I have no doubt in my mind that there were more over his lifetime. The first night I saw him in hospital [I believe the night after the heart attack--my birthday] I left after 10 minutes. I couldn't do it anymore. He was treating my mother like shit, talking to her like a dog---just the way I hated growing up. I don't even think he realized I was there, all he could think of was getting out of the hospital and getting a pack of cigarettes. I knew that face he was making--that tone he was using, and I knew violence would soon chase it.
I didn't go back for days, maybe a week--maybe two. I can't really remember. When I did, we actually had a good afternoon. The doctors had given him some kind of antipsychotic or very mild sedative, because he wasn't violent or agitated. The entire time, I anticipated it to go south rather quickly with the mention of a word, or a particularly long conversational pause. But it didn't. I'm oddly thankful for that time together, but it does little to numb the years of pain.
It was after he died that I was forced to cope with everything left unsaid, undone, and emotions left to fester and rot. I've forgiven him, but I think I'll forever hurt with who he was half the time. The only reason, the key, for me to forgive was in knowing he was raised being beaten, molested, and left on the streets by his step father. His mother was a drunk and knew of the sexual abuse, but did nothing. The step father would prompt my father to go with him [for sexual things] and say if he didn't willingly come with him, he would take one of his younger siblings and do it with them. I'm sure Dad would have been a better person, if he hadn't fled his country as a young child due to war and lived as he did, but that wasn't the case. I get what she's feeling here. If I didn't know what I knew about my dad's upbringing, I don't know if I'd ever have forgiven him or even gone to see him when he died.
Woah, your father's life was fucked, once again I can see we are the products of our background, had he had better childhood, he would not be a bad person
Holy shit
@@erenliebert4576 I think so too because I could tell he had started out with a good heart. It just got messed up unbelievably by the callous actions of others.
@@sarahlennox3528 "The defining background experiences of our childhood affect our vital adulthood decisions and method of apprehending the world." Kilroy J. Oldster,
Anyways, learn to accept and forgive, but not forget, in order to get experience from situation.
Stay strong, girl, have good life
@@erenliebert4576 Thank you :) You have a good life as well.
Also, naming her youngest son Anakin, also symbolized leia’s forgives of her father.
He's Ben now. or as I like to call him emo ren ;)
Anakin: YOU TURNED HER AGAINST ME
Luke:...you have done that yourself
wtf?
I bet she forgave her father completely after her son turned out the same way, and knew there was good in Ben as well.
This is legends continuity
@@thegirlwhowaited6316 that doesn't change my opinion.
@@austins.7566 mk cool
@@thegirlwhowaited6316 It could still apply in the EU with Jacen. :)
She didn’t think there was good in Ben until Luke convinced her by using Vader as an example
Leia: “Leave now or I will throw sand at you!”
I get the feeling Jeremy Kyle would be very popular in the Star Wars universe.
The DARK is patient and generous it always wins, but at the heart of its strength lies it's weakness, one lone candle is enough to hold it back, LOVE it's more than a candle LOVE can ignite the stars.
Francisco Garcia what
urjnlegend: What do you mean WHAT. 🤔
Francisco Garcia don't understand what you are saying
urjnlegend: Love is the path to redemption, and forgiveness.
Francisco Garcia this was actually very nice it could even be used in a star wars movie
*Imagine 6 year old Luke running to his Dad and he says:*
"Do you want to build a sandcastle Daddy?"
*- in a alternate timeline, of course!*
I've always wanted to see more of leia and Vader's character dynamic
I think this fits pretty well with her character.
The more videos I watch about Vader, the sadder I get.
But it feels so good.
Anakin: could you forgive me?
Leia: no
Anakin: *surprised pikachu face
Before I only watched the movie and I was confused, now with your channel that explains all the subtleties with the comics/books/etc. I realised how much depth there is to StarWars and my brain is on the verge to explode