Obi-Wan’s Thoughts When Vader Killed Sidious and was Redeemed! (Legends)
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The Non-Canon Expert looks at Obi-Wan Kenobi's thoughts as he watched his former friend and apprentice Darth Vader kill his Master and Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Sidious and be redeemed back into the light, explaining how the Force Ghost of Obi-Wan was profoundly changed through Anakin's redemption and the important actions that Obi-Wan took himself in these moments.
This is a Legends story for Obi-Wan Kenobi and the events of Episode 6: Return of the Jedi with information found within the Legends novel "Star Wars: The Life and Legend of Obi-Wan Kenobi." I hope that you enjoy it!
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“Welcome back, Anakin. Now I shall teach you the High Ground!”
Darth Vader: Fuck you Palpatine i have the High Ground.
Don’t worry my Friend, you underestimate my power
More like plot amour
Enthusiastic Gamer I want a witty response to go with this but I don’t have one, I do love it though.
Enthusiastic Gamer It would be so funny if Anakin manifested to palps in IX just to say that.
Mace Windus thoughts: “oh so now he kills him, well what about the trial Anakin? Hm? He must stand trial?”
Anakin would be like “he was too dangerous to be left alive... wait”
Such an underrated commeny 😂
Mace: "You have fulfilled the prophecy and become one with the Force. But we still do not grant you the rank of Jedi Master."
Anakin: "FUUUUUUUUUUUU-"
Mace: "Take a seat, dead Skywalker."
“When I’m done with him he won’t stand period”
He have arm, he's still armed
"You are a Force ghost, but we do not grant you the rank of Master."
Orion Slaver “ he’s holding me back, I should be able to speak to the living but I could only appear to them.”
That's outrageous, it's unfair!
MLBlue30 “ I didn’t just appear to the men, but the women and the children too.
Orion Slaver that’s fucked lol
You are dead, but we do not grant you the rank of force ghost
Should be this.
Perhaps I was wrong...from a certain point of view
A rather....high point of view
Cman8900 this made me smile to the highest degree and with much certain point of view ....
QTR0 did you do highest degree on purpose? because that was funny
@@remarkable4478 no
Cman8900 High is a point of view, Anakin.
Obi wan realized not forgiving anakin was so uncivilized.
Well he killed a lot of kids.
NeZha-Yeah, when I remembered all that Vader had done in his life-his redemption by killing someone who was gonna kill his own kid seems a little less heroic than true redemption. Even killing the emperor and ending the very evil that he himself helped create he still personified the term “irredeemable.” When you weigh everything that Vader had done in his entire life one hoped that Luke would use that moment of weakness to torture him and then send him to hell to show him how painful betrayal can be which is something Vader was well known for in his life. Star Wars morality is total bullshit 💩Vader deserved to fade into nothingness. I mean, what’s next in Hollywood? A story about how a child molester finds redemption by saving one kid? Vader becoming a force ghost was dumb AF.
@@XennHD everyone does that
@Colin Kelly no, they weren't Jedi and if you read the comics you will see how many innocent people he actually killed.
Colin Kelly I hope this is a joke
Obi-Wan: "It all makes sense now, Anakin finally trolled me by pretending to be a sith for many years and waited to kill Palpatine. He sure got me"
“GOOD CALL, MY YOUNG PADAWAN”!
Obi-Wan was the master of trolling throughout the clone wars, while Anakin was just an apprentice troll, during the fight between Vader and Obi-Wan Vader was really saying that he is now the trolling master as opposed to the trolling apprentice xD
You cut his legs and an arm so I don’t think it was a troll...
@@emgay4039 it was all part of anakins plan. Troll master lvl 99
@@wiizardx Ah you cut mah limbs off...ALL ACCORDING TO MY DESIGN HAHAHAHHAHA *groan*
Vader looking down the elevator shaft as Sidious falls. Obi-Wan's force ghost putting a hand on his shoulder :
Obi : "This, my friend... Is how the high ground feels like"
Anakin : "Is it possible to learn this power?"
Obi : "Not from a Sith."
This has to be the best coment in this video.
Ehhhhh this comment is something special
Good one.
Someone turn this comment into a meme.
Hahahajajajahahahaha
At the end of the generator shaft Sidious fell in:
"another happy landing"
and he survived
because Rey and Disney
@@Sapphire_Jack Sidious "survived" in a sense in Legends, in terms of his consciousness hopping to other bodies (especially clones). Blaming Disney isn't exactly reasonable.
The hate for Disney is well justified.
@Arkady
Disney hate is getting redundant?
They are blatantly molesting and ridiculing a franchise that we all grew up with and loved and you just want to stand by and watch with a smile?
Shame on you
@Arkady
so its perfectly fine to trash and burn all forms of entertainment that people spent dozens of years building just because they aren´t "real" ?
that kind of logic burns libraries dude
but what am I expecting from someone who is willing to go see Ep.9
Vader: *turns back to the Light Side*
Obi-Wan: I like it when he does that
Obi-Wan's Ghost: "Wow, I guess he deserved redemption after all!"
A Bunch of Murdered Little Kids: "Bruh..."
Lolol
And the billions of people he killed on Alderan.
Don’t forget the other countless people he slaughtered directly and indirectly in his crusade to maintain his master’s grip on the galaxy
John Roscoe George Lucas shitty ass writing right there I mean I hate that Disney owns it now but fuck George was so shit at writing story’s it was so bad the mandalorian is so amazing and yeah I fucking hate Rey and fin too at least George had good characters just terrible plot holes
@@jellosquishier Alderaan was Tarkin's call, not Vader's.
"You did it. You crazy son of a b*tch. You did it." - Dr. Ian Malcolm AND Obi-Wan Kenobi
Something mace would say.
Imagine the reunion between the two after Anakin's death. Just the amount of regret in both of them for their failures, but above all of it just joy that they're together once again
"Correct, Luke was." Yoda's force ghost receiving 5 credits from Obi-wan's force ghost.
DarthKaine666 Lol 5 ghost credits that is
"And you said he was too old to complete the training; that confronting Vader so soon would lead to the dark side. We both owe Luke ghost credits old friend". Luke: "Good, I can finally pick up those power converters". Makes more sense than the new movies.
Make it 500 credits, yoda wouldn't bet 5 cents, he'd bet at least get 5$.
Double or nothing
Jesus loves you
*Anakin kills Sidious*
Obi-Wan: “See chancellor Palpatine? Sith Lords are our speciality”
Well....apparently according to the new Star Wars he didn’t kill Sidious.....
@@Jedi391 Or he's a damn ghost... we've seen Darth Bane as a ghost, or rather a manifestation of the dark side. Sidious was in a whole other league from Bane. If anyone could achieve the dark equivalent of being one with the force, its Palpatine.
Ethan Baker Kind of doubt it from his current appearance in the trailer.
@@sheevpalpatineofficial5316 appearance? From all the trailers and TV spots I've seen, we've not seen what Sidious currently actually looks like. So unless he was snuck in somewhere, then doubtful.
Ethan Baker We don’t see his face, but we see him in the final trailer. You can see his hood and he is sitting on something, and people have thought that he might have some kind of mech because of the way he moves forward in the trailer. You can see Rey looking up at him and take a step back. It’s not much, but it doesn’t seem like a force ghost.
"Obi-Wan recognized exactly the extent of his own failure".
I had chills on that one
Obi-wan: Only a sith deals in absolutes...
Also Obi-Wan: Nah he's gone now guess we'll have to kill him
Matthew Bibby ooh good catch
The statement that ONLY siths deal in absolutes is ironic an absolute statement
According to George Lucas that was the point of that statement. The Jedi were so blinded by arrogance that they didn't think they were anything like the Sith, when in reality they didnt think that for balance there must be both light and dark force users
Matthew Bibby obi-wan: I am going to end this, once and for all
SEliteGuitarist Wait what? Noooo, that's dumb. "Balance of the Force" was never supposed to mean balance in a literal sense...
Obiwan basically lost all hope for Anakin when Anakin turn to the dark side and he had hope when Anakin saved Luke from Palpatine
A *New Hope* if you will
@@CiabanItReal get out
balance of force mean you just had to kill both light and dark.....
I agree that both the sith and Jedi were needed to die so that a more balanced group could ride. And if you think of it kylo uses both the light and dark but is more leaned on the dark and Ray is the reverse. The rules of teaching someone that there are two sides of the force is right and wrong. I like to think that of the force was you cutting a onion the dark side is the pressure you need to cut the onion but the light is the handling of the knife so you can cut each layer and so you don't end up hurting yourself
I mean he did killed like a dozen kids but that doesn't matter
Anakin was still the chosen one. He ended Lord Sidious to save humanity. Qui-Gon was right after all.
@H M No, we're gonna assume it's non-cannon.
@H M no one said Rey was the chosen one, you people made that up to get pissed at the Mary Sue.
Anakin did kill Palpatine and bring balance, but as Palpy says, his Sith abilities would b "deemed...unnatural..". He cheated death, upsetting the balance again.
@@tylerjaynes822 Oh shut the fuck up it does undo Vader's sacrifice and make Rey a Mary Sue and no amount of bullshit you bring changes that.
Tyler Jaynes no one said she was, but it’s implied. Otherwise, what the hell were the two trilogies before that all about. There was still unbalance in the force after ROTJ. Anakin killing palpatine and “restoring balance” did nothing and there was still a similar tyrannical government trying to rule the galaxy. Stop being an apologist for the awful character that is Rey and the awful trilogy
Nick M whats the point in him being the chosen one if the same shit is gonna keep happening again and again lol. People hate the Disney trilogy not because it’s Disney, but because it’s actually fucking bad
“Here Obi Wan, here’s my secret weakness if I ever become a Sith again, I don’t like sand, it’s rough, and coarse, and it gets everywhere”.
@@rodrigoparrapalma7673 you deserve a pizza
Bloody geniuses all of you!
Ah, so pocket sand would be very useful here.
To Anakin it's like holy water on a Demon.
don't forget, it's also irritating.
Obi Wan to Anakin in Netherworld: Hello there!
Anakin: Oh come on!
General Kenobi
Grievous in the netherworld: f**k you kenobi
@GretmisAS
Yup they'll mickey mouse it
GretmisAS I don’t think they will seeing that KK no longer has creative control, and Iger already said that Favreau is the top candidate to be president of Lucas film in 2021 when Kathleen leaves.
@@whole_wheat_soup9321 LMFAO😭😭😭
A father's love for his child surpasses any weapon
But beans
But what about the beans
Jesus Loves You man❤ through Him, were redeemed.
The father that tortured his own daughter with some drugs, helped in her planet’s destruction, tortured her soon to be husband, cut off his son’s hand, and let him get shocked for like three minutes straight.
Now *that’s* a father’s love.
@@acrazysheepdog1555 John 3:16 is a greater Love
It just further humanizes Obi-Wan thus making him even cooler than he already was.
Kinobi's Thoughts:
"Yes, his evil is gone for good. Only way he is coming back is if an evil corporation resurrects him for a sad excuse of a story plot... but that would never happen."
Bitch please, Disney are NOT evil. Also 2015 rang, they want their "butt hurt about Disney" period back.
@@richallenxbox1976 Disney has literally taken the largest shit on Star Wars. So shush
Maaan that sounded like the sassiest comeback ever reading it. Were you snapping your fingers when you were rehearsing it, or clapping to every other syllable?
Zone you need to put those words to bars
People are allowed to like something even if it sucks.
The humility of Obi-Wan in Vader's final moments and the speed of his course correction is so admirable. He knew he was so objectively wrong, and had the decency to let go of his negative emotions on the matter. A true Jedi Master.
vader was a killer
@@PeterParker-ff7ub From my point of view the Jedi are killers.
Vader was indeed a killer, but even Vader himself viewed he and Anakin as two different person, and so did Obi-Wan, I guess we should do the same.
@@PeterParker-ff7ub thanks capt
@@PeterParker-ff7ub and what would you do? kill him and become one too?
"You are my brother Anakin."
"And I love you."
He said "an I loved you" meaning he doesn't anymore
He also said 'you were my brother anakin'
He changed the quote to what obi wan would say upon seeing anakin after death.
"You are strong and wise, Anakin. And I am very proud of you."
He forgot to say no homo
That is so wholesome. Thank you for this
If mind tricks were real...
Disney- "You want to buy some tickets?".
SW Fans "You dont want to sell me any tickets"
Disney: "I dont wanna sell you any tickets"
SW fans "You want to go home and rethink the plot"
Disney "I wanna go home and rethink the plot"
"I'm Disney mind tricks don't work on me only money!"
SW Fans: “The Old Republic Era will do fine...”
Disney: “No.. It won’t!”
Hes right you know, Disney is essentially the Hutts at this point, your Jedi mind tricks have no effect on them.
Me: You will go bankrupt.
Disney: I will go bankrupt.
*Disney goes bankrupting*
Disney: WAIT, WHAT?!?
Me: I see you’re not a Hutt. To easy.
Disney: NOOOOO.
Me: Now time to get Star Wars back into its true roots!
Me: *turns legends back into canon.*
Disney: No No NoO! YoU wIlL dIe!
Me: What in the name of Obi-Wan Kenobi...
Me, going back in time to the moment of this conversation:"wait, NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!"
Obi-Wan: “You couldn’t kill him 23 years ago?”
Anakin: "He lives in a high rise...my weakness is the high ground!"
@@Ko_Kasumi Obi-Wan: "We lived in a temple with MASSIVE TOWERS! You had the high ground all along Anakin, you just couldn't see it!"
@@DonnEStarside Anakin: "It all makes sense now. I could have had the high ground on Mustafar if I jumped higher."
Tough luck...
Anakin wanted to be the chosen one so rather than mace ending it once and for all and having everyone recognize him as the chosen one. He cut off windus hand, exterminated the Jedi and killed sidious 23 years later so he could be the one to destroy the sith for good
I really like that, I always thought that it was weird that Qui-gon, Yoda, and Obi-wan had to search and train to be force ghosts but Anakin just got it. Knowing that it was Obi-wan that taught him that as a way of forgiveness and saving his friend, it really makes it a complete story for me.
Obi wan didn't teach him forgiveness
force ghost is not about training.... it is sith invention. hence rise of Skywalker...
@@JamesJones-mt9co
Did you watch the video?
campkira siths can not be force ghosts
Actually it's complicated but anakin didn't have to do much cause he was created by darth plagues da wise. He's basically 100% force.
*Kenobi meets Anakin in the afterlife*
"Hello there."
Anakin: Send me back send me back send me back send me back send me back send me back send me back send me back send me back
GENERAL KENOBI
Guys guys this is so uncivilized, we all know Kenobi's high ground was too strong leave Annie alone lol
@@JP-hk6xw sand me back
General Kenobi, you are a bold one
When Anakin throws Sidious
Yoda: "ya! Told you, I did. Fulfill the prophecy, he did." "Owe me fifty credits, you do."
Obi Wan: "I'm really happy about this, but I also just lost 50 credits..."
I love how Qui Gon influences Obi wan ever so slightly, how he believed in him, and how his predictions always come true. Such a great Jedi.
nico nloy Qui Gon was mad underrated tbh
I overtell the story that I was 6 when I saw phantom menace in theaters and Qui Gon is always one of my all time favorites
@@younggrasshopper3531 right tho
jinn nloy Sucks that Maul had to kill him, all because Obi-Wan failed to take the high ground quick enough
Anakin needed him
Obiwan: “do it”
Underated
dewit
That's what's happening in Vader/Anakin's head while he's watching Luke get shocked.
Obi-Wan: "Good, Anakin, good. Kill him. Kill him now."
Anakin: "I shouldn't..."
Obi-Wan: "Dew it."
Anakin: "It's not the Sith wa- Oh wait, yeah it is." *yeets Palpy*
That explains a lot. I think back to their dialogue exchange before they fight on Mustafar and I notice that the entire time, all Obi Wan did was criticize and verbally attack him. Never once showing that he still believed in him. Which might have pushed Anakin more over the edge to the point of fighting him on Mustafar. I kind of wonder what would have happened if he told him how he loved him like a brother BEFORE they fought.
B3fore they fought, Anakin kinda choked his pregnant wife in front of Obi Wan. So.., er.., fair enough it would've been pretty hard for Obi Wan to say these words.
@@drugaddicter I mean, to be fair. It is a horrific thing what Anakin did, force-choking his pregnant wife, and there is no justification for that at all. However, we must remember why he reacted so violently. That was because Obi-Wan showed up at the worst possible moment. He appeared on the ramp and posing as if he were super-man or something. Remember what he said:
Anakin: You're with him! You brought him here to kill me!
So, while Anakin was already angry to a degree, what really set him off was Obi-Wan appearing on Padme's ship. I supposed I seem to be justifying Anakin's behavior. But I'm not. I admit that this was one of the most horrific things he's done. But we have to understand why he snapped the way he did
@Nikita Larionov Anakin-Vader was a damn psycho and paranoid and became jealous as f*ck. He knew fully well he was in over his head after he had butchered those younglings so he became extremely suspicious of everyone. Obi Wan had done nothing bad to him by that point and yet Anakin's a*s (or the Force, if you will) told him that he was gonna end up in big trouble because of him, and knowing that he developed enourmous amount of anger and rained it down on Padme. Obi Wan's only mistake here was sneaking into Padme's ship instead of facing Anakin openly. Let alone that wasn't a jedi way, it was simply stupid and also uncivilised. But what is done cannot be undone so oh well.
@@drugaddicter Like I said, I don't justify Anakin's actions. What he did was horrific, the slaughter of the jedi and younglings, along with choking his wife, cannot be justified. And I say this as someone who has Anakin as one of his favorite characters. And it's pretty obvious that Anakin/Vader on Mustafar was off his mind. It's pretty obvious his mind, well. Basically snapped, most likely
Now, Obi-Wan. You would think that one of the smartest jedi in the order, and I'm pretty sure many people can agree that Obi-Wan was very intelligent, with a few moments of lapse of judgement (going undercover without informing Anakin, going to Mandalore by himself to rescue Satine, the whole Ahsoka trial). But aside from these, Obi-Wan was depicted to be one of the most intelligent jedi. So, I fail to see how Obi-Wan thought having Padme, who's pregnant, talk to Anakin and then show up, would have been a good idea. I thought it would have made more sense, in relation to Obi-Wan's character, to come out and confront Anakin. This makes sense, as this would protect Padme from any potential harm, and make Anakin focus on him, not on Padme
@Nikita Larionov Yeah, Obi Wan should've come out first. No hiding behind Padme.
OB1: "Anakin I can't believe you've come back to the light."
Anakin: "Oh master, please forgive me."
OB1: "All is forgiven, Anakin!"
Anakin: Really? I mean I did kill those kids and all, so..."
OB1: "Meh..that was like, what, 2 or 3 of them?"
Anakin: "Dozens actually."
OB1: "Well hey, 3 children or 36 children, who's counting right? Let's go get ah brewskie!"
Well prophecy did say he will bring balance to the force, not eliminate the dark side
Well the prophecy was fulfilled... from a certain point of view, just not in a way anyone expected
David Damascus It would be waaaaay more than 36 considering vader hunted down the last jedi and killed anything and everything in his path including children.
@@Jdporte27 It was a joke.
"Who's counting right" lol
Obi-wan really just wanted to say "hello there." He missed that.
Hello, there.
“The chosen one will destroy the sith”
Since palpatine is all the sith, and Anakin/Vader killed him. I guess he IS the chosen one!
_Disney: _*_ALLOW US TO INTRODUCE OURSELVES_*
Disney truly threw themselves down the deathstar
Disney: Actually, Rey is now the Chosen One.
SW fans: What? But what about-
Disney: Rey.
SW fans: But the prophecy says-
Disney: Rey.
SW fans: And what about all the heroes of the OT and their legacy?
Disney: All Rey's now. The Force is female. See, we have shirts and everything.
SW fans: I have a bad feeling about this...
@@PaintedLive disney's trash is non-canon
@@chasm671
chasm671 Disney doesn’t claim that Rey is the chosen one either. Anakin did bring balance, as he says in Rise of Skywalker, but it was never said to be permanent. Without Anakin, there would have never been balance and evil would have won.
Vader got even higher ground with that reactor shaft.
Taistelukalkkuna: His high ground grew with every second
The highest of grounds
Vader, as he hauls Sidious towards the reactor shaft: "Hope you're seeing this, Obi-Wan. How's this for high ground?"
First thing Obi-Wan said after Anakin killed Darth Sidious probably was: "That still only counts as one"
I read that in Gimley's voice damnit! LOL 😂
Obi Wan: “He.. he... obtained the power of the high ground...”
So everyone thought he is completely evil except Luke, and that same was going to kill kylo ren in his sleep out of fear of him taking the dark side route...... The new movies are such a pile of trash
Mark hamil said “i almost had to think of him as another character, maybe he’s jake skywalker”
Except Luke and Padme
I would love to see some of this on screen some day. And Ahsoka meeting Anakin's force ghost. I'm ready for all the feels.
Y'all really look for any reason to hate the new movies 😂
@@deonnelson9780 And we can find hours upon hours of plotholes in it. Some of the reviews are longer than the movie. Your point?
"Anakin is the chosen one, he brought balance to the force by breaking the chain of turmoil brought on by the Sith. Anakin, with Luke his son as the catalyst, changed the galaxy forever for the better."
*DISNEY HAS JOINED THE CHAT*
"Oh, so he did bring balance to the force... eventually"
"Apprentice help me!"
"I will help you. Down the reactor shaft, down to your death!"
"I am your master!"
"Vader's master. But not Anakin Skywalker's!"
This sith empty! Y E E T!!!
Luke gave vadar the balls to use the sith code on his master
That's right. I'm helping Palpatine to his DEATH!!!!. AND YOU'RE NOT BRINGING HIM BACK, JAR JAR ABRAMS!!! Or YOU will be NEXT!!!!!
- If you throw me down the reactor shaft, I shall become more powerful than you can ever imagine!
Vader: - NOT AGAIN THE SAME SHIT!!!
“Anakin Skywalker’s Master is Obi Wan Kenobi!”
this makes a hellava lot more sense than him manifesting as a force ghost on his own because of one act of kindness to his son.
In the Netherworld of the force
Anakin: Master im so sorry for wha-
Obi wan: Anakin I know your the chosen one and you were meant to destroy the sith but couldn't you have done it a bit faster i could have died of old age by the time it took for you to finally kill Palpatine
Obi Wan: It's over Anakin I have the high ground
Anakin as after he throws Sidious off the ledge: Look who has the high grounds now
Obi Wan finally realized the extent of forgiveness.
Forgiveness is a communal experience
@@samueljohnson9723, forgiveness is also a very personal experience.
There are many parts and paths to forgiveness and it is a path to redemption. It begins, oftentimes at a personal level.
@Reckoning, exactly! However, once you've started down that path of redemption; once your friends have begun to see the penitence, it becomes easier for others to forgive. At the same time, it is ultimately up to those souls who are no longer in the Living Force to forgive him, seeing his change of heart. It won't bring them back. You can't change the past. All you can do is change how you think about it. All you can ever do is realize people are just doing the best they know how; that there is some intent they believe is important to them, and that you were just an innocent bystander or in the wrong place at the wrong time, but there is a reason for you to be involved.
Once you kill innocent people you cant be forgiven
The concept of Obi-Wan and possibly also Yoda having to process Anakin actually coming back to the light when they tought it impossible is quite interesting, and I also find it really wholesome how the answer to "how did he get a Force Ghost" was basicly Obi-Wan just being a bro
The chosen one prophecy had been fulfilled when Anakin killed Sidious
EDIT: THANKS FOR THE 1.1K likes and thanks for sharing your thoughts
Disney: "Well, actually..."
Fuckin criminal bringing back Palps..
@@didimean it was done in legends
The way I look at this is, (from a certain point of view)...
The deeper aspect is that Plagueis and Sidious did _unbalance_ the Force. If you think of a top spinning with energy keeping it spinning. What happens when you push the top is, it warbles a little, but it brings things back into balance because of that energy. What they actually did was flip the top. The bottom of the top would have a bb or a bearing in the center of the tip it spins on, but the top of it would only be wood or the handle. Time slows, but nature is sped up and distorted into a much lower vibration. Darkness feeds darkness and light feeds the darkness, much like Abeloth drinking from the Fountain of Knowledge and bathing in the Well of Darkness, she saw herself becoming more beautiful, but to others, she became an abomination.
What Anakin did was flip the top back, right side up. Luke was the catalyst in doing that, but it is only temporary if Sidious is successful in getting his strength back. He's been trying by siphoning the Force out of Younglings but that only sustains his life. If he had only died, Luke could've cut himself off from the Force after RotJ, but Operation Cinder was the first clue Darkness still had its hold, that Sidious somehow survived or that there was another threat. Luke had to continue - rebuild the Jedi Order.
If Sidious could find one or two powerful enough with the Force, he could possibly siphon their life force and become strong enough, rejuvenate himself even to an unnatural, younger self. Is that why he wants Baby Yoda? Is he also drawing in the last Skywalker with Snoke?
@@MrGrimjaw I keep hearing people say this as if it is a justification for what they are doing.
people fucking hated it in legends too. But at least it was more fleshed out then coming out of nowhere like he seemingly is in RoS.
@@MrGrimjaw yeah, and we hated it in legends too, but atleast it had a backstory instead of him coming out of nowhere also wasnt it not even the real palpatine?
wonder what this said....
Nah the Chosen One now is Rey
Rey being the so called new chosen one makes it all worse.
If TROS sucks, the saga stops at 6. Mandolorian is an exception
@@dzikripratama3776 That makes it worse
@@Jhop273 That's how it already is lmao
Everyone always forgets that no matter what you have done or how evil it was,you are worthy of redemption. Luke simply showed love and compassion to vader. He gave him the forgiveness he was so desperately looking for. Something the jedi should have practiced and preached. Instead they turned their back on him and showed their true colors. Arrogance and clueless. The jedi were unknowingly just as evil as the sith. This is why Yoda and Obi-Wan both exiled themselves.
Underrated comment
Really brilliant take on the arrogance of the jedi toward Anakin. 😎
I really depends on which character you are talking about, cuz there are enough characters out there that are far beyond redemption no matter what they do
@@ContagiousSponge no character is irredeemable.
@@DaKaNgZ6 Darth Nihilus?
obi-wan"i Don`t believe it"
Luke "that is why you failed"
Absolutely love this. Finally a proper end to the story of their friendship. Always thought that it needed more of a ending and that really is the perfect ending to the story of the 2
This does sound kind of contradictory. In Return Of The Jedi when Vader and Luke are talking on Endor, Vader says: "Obi-Wan once thought as you do". Despite this, we never actually see Obi-Wan having any faith that Anakin can come back. Perhaps more on this will be explored in the Kenobi series?
It's looks like we may find out soon enough!
Obi-Wan *did* think that way though, for a short time while dueling on Mustafar. There were a few moments where he held out hope, and tried to pull Anakin back from the brink (The infamous "Chancellor Palpatine is evil!" bit, for example.)
@@vladskiobi yeah but that was very very little faith, Vader wouldn't have remembered that after being so badly drunk by anger and hatred
I think Vader was referring to before the end of their duel on Mustafar. Obi Wan up until he had to cut Anakins legs off tried to talk him down any chance he got. It was only after he looked upon Vaders burning body and felt only the rage coming from him he thought Anakin was gone
Well...
Seeing that moment, the moment when Obi-Wan forgave Anakin and even seeked him out within the Force after his death, would be incredible.
I think he was screaming YAAAAAAAAAAAS
When jedi die: /gamemode spectator
Og way:
/gamemode 3
When non - jedi/sith die: exit world
Obi-Wan’s thoughts: “aight imma head out”
Everytime I see the scene after Vader saves Luke from Palpatine, I always wonder what's going through that minds of the all the Storm Troopers and the other officers when they see Luke and Vader.
At this point there has to be at least a few people who know about Luke, that he was Public Enemy #1 and that the Empire had been after him for a while.
All the troops and personnel are fleeing to get off the Death Star before it blows. As everyone is running in one direction, you have Luke basically carrying an obviously severely injured Vader in the opposite direction. It would probably be pretty clear that Luke is trying to get himself and Vader to safety, and not acting in a way an escaped prisoner would.
There would have to be more than a few of them seeing it and thinking "what the hell is going with them? Why is Public Enemy #1 trying to save the person that to this point has been trying to kill him" (since none would have seen what happened before that point when Vader saved Luke from the emperor. There just have been more than a little cognitive dissonance going on.
I bet nobody would give a sh*t about Vader at this point. All they knew that Death Star was going to explode and that was all you could possibly concern about had you been in their place, how to save your own skin.
@@drugaddicter They were imperial storm troopers, they were raised to abandon their humanity and to serve with their all the empire.
bold of you to assume they could see anything in those helmets
lol Whether anyone on Death Star 2 knew who Luke was or not, after twenty years serving under Vader, rule No. 1 is: don't mess with anyone wearing a lightsaber.
0:36 "With the light of Anakin *_extinguished_* ...
I see what you did there.
Yeah like the fire haha
"A surprise to be sure, but a welcomed one"
Vader: "I have redeemed myself." Disney: "hold my beer. "
Obi-wan: anakin palpatine is evil!
Anakin: from my point of view the,,,, yeah you're right
Anakin, 20-some-odd years after the fact: "Son of a bitch, Obi-Wan was right. Might as well take myself out with Palpatine then, I don't wanna live in a world where Obi-Wan is right."
Damn.... I find it really cool that even as an elderly force ghost Obi-wan still has lessons to learn. Also, Obi-wan and Yoda being completely unable to fathom the possibility of Vader having some good left in him ties in really well with the very flawed and dogmatic Jedi order we see in the prequels. Despite the cheesy moments I honestly think the prequels were pretty well done and that they did a good further developing the themes and subtler ideas of the originals. The prequels also made Luke much more of a badass, he's like the synthesis of the Jedi's monastic, distant love and the Sith's burning, attached love; Luke is the balance. It's a shame we'll never get to see that character on the big-screen.
Legends is more cannon than what Disney has given us.
If you like something more doesn't make it cannon.
@@noximilienqc7207 okay NPC
@@YeagerBomb-ww3bn '' Saying something against me make you a NPC ''
@@YeagerBomb-ww3bn ok boomer
@@Supermegamanuel01 nice try NoximilienQc
Resnov: "You did it Mason! You did what I could not!"
"I still had the High Ground though."
Obi-Wan:Remember when I cut your limbs like butter?Il fuking do it again!
Obi-Wan: Anakin is beyond redemption
*Vader redeems himself*
Obi-Wan: Surprised pikachu face... followed by a gentle heartwarming smile
This reminds me of the time when Zuko asked his uncle for forgiveness and his uncle was never angry but was sad that his nephew lost his way. That moment would always stop me in my tracks. It so touching.
They have a lot in common. Both were very powerful and manipulated by a father figure, disfigured by fire committing evil deeds before someone was there to believe in them enough to redeem them.
Obi wan: I am one with the force!
Darth Vader: I AM THE FORCE!
Really though
*Disney's sequel trilogy doesnt exist. At least for me*
From a certain point of view
same
Same here
Same
Same bruh
I'd love to see that scene of Obi-Wan communicating to Anakin as he dies and teaching him how to become a Force ghost.
For forgiveness, then. Seems important. Great video.
*Welcome back to another episode of: Everyone Underestimates Anakin!*
yOu uNderEstiMate My POWER
Mira dOnT tRy It
𝑻𝒉𝒆 𝑮𝒂𝒏𝒈 𝑩𝒓𝒊𝒏𝒈𝒔 𝑩𝒂𝒍𝒂𝒏𝒄𝒆 𝒕𝒐 𝒕𝒉𝒆 𝑭𝒐𝒓𝒄𝒆
@@SoldadoHyliano141 aAhHhH!!
4:50 I like this explanation for why anakin appeared with the other force ghosts at the end of return of the Jedi. Also it warms my heart to think about obi wan welcoming anakin into Jedi heaven
But what about Darth Jar Jar??? Hes the last remaining Sith Lord and the most elusive! Is he not the last peace that need to fall? Or is he needed for the balance...
89BlackGatomon he got shot by a paint ball gun
@@epic9648 wait... WHAT?
If that were the case, the Force would be balanced.
One Jedi - Luke
One Sith - Jar Jar
@@morsecode980 neat... But that not how it works... Remember the rule of two?
89BlackGatomon Yeah, true. Jar Jar would need an apprentice.
Meanwhile Luke would restart the Jedi Order, so things would be thrown off again.
I wish in episode 6 when Vader dies we could of seen a scene where Obi-Wan reaches out to him from the netherworld of the force and teaches Anakin the force power of being a ghost and we see Anakin join him. We see more of his redemption.
Obviously this concept was created after episode 6 was made and i assume George Lucas never thought of it.
I really loved hearing this! truly another gem that makes Star Wars what it is. I feel like Star Wars can teach so many life lessons and Obi wan and Anakins friendship being restored should bring peace and hope to everyone
One still has the chance to redeem themselves for their wrong choices in life. That’s the revelation in all of this. I still feel like his story arc could’ve been better in the prequel trilogy, but the character’s path from fallen hero, to villain, and back again to the light was pretty inspiring.
Damn that was heavy... Wasn't ready for those feels.
To me this represents the power of a Father's Love no matter what is going through his mind his heart or his soul when it comes to your child there is no force that can overtake you or stop you from saving your child
I swear, all these "What x thought about"-videos could be a meme..
1&1
What Jabba thought about Han Solo helping blow up the Death Star.
@@TomskyB What C3PO thought when he caught R2-D2 with Leia
@@leonderprofie123 What the Rancor thought about the Empire's decision to build a second Death Star.
What the Death sticks Guy thought about his taxes
Padme told Obi-Wan that there was still good in him. It’s Obi-Wan’s fault that he chose not to believe it; but at the same time, it’s understandable why Obi-Wan didn’t take Padme’s last words seriously
Anakin finally turns back to the light and becomes a force ghost
Obi-Wan: Well hello there
When Vader raised Sidious above him did Sidious technically have the high ground??
not when the ground is vader...
That's too much high ground... er, high Vader?
And thats why Sidious is alive in the new movie 🌚
@Filthy acts at a reasonable price This is just childish behaviour. You act like a toddler who is mad at their friend so you just ignore him for the rest of your day.
@Filthy acts at a reasonable price Man then you propably havent even tried, if my shitty 10 second reply got the prize. Come on it's not that hard being a troll in this mess of a fanbase, just write some belivable statements about how Sequels are masterpieces and how Last Jedi movie is best one in the trilogy, while shitting on the original trilogy and suddenly you will summon Star Wars defense force that will go bananas over you and just watch how you opened pandora's box.
And for god's sake get a better spot than just a shitty 30 likes comment with barely any replies. All you got was me, and i saw your other ones not being successfull either beacuse of that reason so dont bullshit me i had any competition to begin with, no wonder i won the meta-manlet prize so easily. There was no other contestants to win it...
I’m a simple man. I see a new SWRC video, I click.
Idc how evil my friend has become by the dark side I couldn’t watch him burn😞
Once again, we see that the master not only teaches the student, they also learn from the student. That is how it always goes.
This was an awesome story and eye opening. I really enjoyed this explanation. It’s not very often that I am completely entertained, but I’ve never read that Obi-Wan story.
Too bad that disney ruind this all
anakin is the chosen one
Jope Lamp Referring to Leia, Yoda brought up "Skywalker". Rey is a Palpatine.
@@TheRealNorth21 they ruined vaders sacrifice
"Disney bad give me likes"
@@JustJacob01 here brother
@@TheRealNorth21 Rey is not the fucking chosen one ,Disney buying a franchise then completely disregarding the already existing lore and trilogies ,then creating their own.
Is complete Bullshit.
There’s no reason for this to not be canon
Well, after all, Anakin had to learn to become a force ghost somehow!
Darth vader: *kills countless men, women, children, and whole planets. Killed Jedi who were done being Jedi, caused countless suffering and tragedy across the galaxy*. *throws one shockey boy down a shaft and is immediately redeemed*
seems legit
To be fair, shocky boy was basically Satan
Anakin wasn't in his right mind when he did all those things. His mind and soul were being clouded by the Dark Side.
And "shockey boy" was the most evil man to have ever existed.
@@kevinthunder3375 " He is/was literally Hitler"
-Some arts major student
@@Mike-8404 palpatine made every genocide on earth look weak compared to his deeds. dude genocided entire species and planets for fun basically
"you were the chosen one so I kinda had to hide the highground from you or else you would be able to destroy me lmao"-Obi wan
I always thought it was the end of RotJ that Qui Gonn was sensing with Anakin. Obviously he didn't know how he'd get there, but he felt so strongly about his balance to the force prophecy that he insisted to Obi-wan that Anakin get trained despite the council's reservations.
Qui-Gon Jinn was always guiding Anakin.
I hate that this isn't cannon this is one of my favorite legends moments now
I'm so glad you finally changed the "So there we have it." picture. Seeing that thing every damn video did my head in, lol.
At the time Palpatin was falling, both Anakin and Luke: "Wait for it! He's gonna do a superhero landing" 😁😁😁
Kathleen Kennedy: “I’m about to end Vader’s entire arc”
Can you guys stop spreading this nonsense idea that Disney somehow ruined Anakin's ark? Anakin did full fill the prophecy and brought balance to the force.... the prophecy didn't say that the balance would last forever. Even in Legends the Sith returned.
@@notnero5280 Anakin brought balance to the Force by destroying Palpatine, ending the Sith.
Bringing him back means he didn't bring balance to the Force. His sacrifice was pointless thanks to Disney.
But it doesn't really matter, the Disney sequels will never be canon to me.
@@notnero5280 Resurrecting Palpatine does ruin the entire point of Vader’s sacrifice. They could’ve just as easily made it a different Sith Lord for Rey to fight, & learn from the mistake that Legends’ Dark Empire made. But instead, they chose to make Palpatine return, meaning that Vader never actually killed Palpatine, meaning that all the progress that the Rebel Alliance made was for nothing.
I got to say, your videos improved a lot. I used to be annoyed by the bad audio quality as well as the countless repetitions of the same points and phrases, while the subjects you talked about were always very interesting to me. Now the videos are really nice and short. So, keep up the good work!
This makes the edit of episode 6 a lot more worthwhile and wholesome.