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Design Cinema - EP 42 - Painting Details
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2011
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Hi Feng. I hope you realize that this is actually EXACTLY what many of us want to see in your videos. A slow progression thru an painting showing actual brush strokes. What you may think is boring is actually quite fascinating to us, especially those of us who are not yet at a professional level with our art work - i.e. your core audience and student body. So, thanks for this video! And we'd love to see more like it.
I've always found putting in the fine tune details the most therapeutic part of drawing or painting.
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And yes Feng, I understand that going to a school physically is way better than online since you make connections and the 1-1 interaction with the professor. Everybody just remember that not all of us have the chance to go to Cali or Singapore to take concept art classes. This is where online comes into play.
I'm curious if people that watched this 8 years ago have become designers now
took a different path then just games i do gfx logos and album art, but starting on our first game now. so yes. this channel has been everything the past 8 years.
I actually did! currently working at the concept art studio OnePixelBrush
@@maartenh.design9923 hey good for you man!! I’m learning as much as I can watching these videos right now while working on a porfolio for concept design school. Wish me luck :)
Still hoobist also ai came and 2023 was death to artist now in 2024 we don't know what will happen ........😂😬😭
Mr. Feng Zhu, all I can say a BIG THANK YOU! I have been collecting books especially film animations. wayback 2006 I bought a book The Art Of World of Warcraft of Blizzard Entertainment , that time I could hardly understand some of the concepts in the book, now its all clear you make it very simple and very Professional... From the bottom of my heart Thank you.
Ronald Malicdem
Hey Feng, I'm glad you're covering painting details with this one! It's the details that was hoping to see a little bit of, actually. And I find nothing you do here boring! You could be designing patterns for a quilt for all I care, and I'd still watch closely! Thanks for these periodic videos! They're insightful tidbits of just what a designer typically goes through in developing concept art in the industry, and I find all these very helpful.
@coolhead20
It's about how light works. Different light wave length will travel at difference distances. Saturation has to do with with wave length can reach your eye (depending on the material, atmosphere, distance). So for example, the color blue can travel very far; so thus the saturation level remains high even when the object is far (the ocean, sky, etc). Other wave length such as red don't travel far, thus it appears more grey in the distance.
@haluEve
To apply into the full-time Diploma program, you are not required to have a certain degree qualification. The applicants need to be at least 16 years old and have completed the Cambridge GCE ‘O’ Level Examination or 12 years of study at their respective countries. In addition, you will be required to submit a visual art portfolio of no more than 15 pieces and pass the phone interview.
Definitely have to agree on the detailing part becoming tedious. It's a lot of fun to get the initial idea down and then it comes to a crawl when you have to go bit by bit to place all the details.
I recently signed up for an online class, but it was only becuase i'm pretty much a self taught artist. In the UK there are 0 classes or courses for conceptual design or anything you mentioned you teach your students. Videos like yours are the some of the only real information people like me can get, so i hope that online class would just be an extension of similar information. Much appreciate the time you take to do these.
These vids are amazing. I literally look forward to them and get excited for a new one! I may have to look at doing the online class. Feng you are a legend.
awesome words on the tools, explaining how people are looking for secrets while neglecting what really matters in learning concept art. Best tuts on UA-cam! Keep rocking Feng!
if I don't learn something new from you every video, I learn something by following your advice. Challenge yourself to try new things. The week or two I've been watching your videos I've been going absolutely hardcore on my photoshop, and wow. My art has evolved more in these few weeks than they have over the past 2 years doing free lance artwork. You've literally pointed me in the direction of a career. At 24, finding everythig boring and irritating that says alot. Great videos, keep it up :D
Many thanks for sharing. You have ax mentality as a designer and you are a very good teacher putting things in perspective. Two thumbs up!
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@saprissa9
Totally understand. Online courses are a great resource. I was just referring to why our school don't have online due to the fact that we focus heavily on the fundamentals - which requires a lot of hands on time.
@nigelgough2
yes, my colour palette is built over a 10 year period. Photoshop is very backward version friendly. I'm still using my colours and brush from Photoshop 4.0 (v4 and v7 were great!).
@Rolandks
FZD School of Design offers matte painting for both the full-time program and short courses. In the full-time Diploma program, the students will undergo a module called Master Production Technique, in which they will learn the advanced skills in matte painting. Whereas in short course, Digital Painting, the students will learn to understand the importance of composition, lighting, value, perspective, focus, forms and communication to be able to tell story through the digital paintings
Hahahahaha I was one of those people who kept on bothering Feng with online classes. I have taken online classes all around. Im telling you right now those classes helped me to get started in digital painting. No school around my area has that. I also would like to point out that there are no school around NYC that teach concept art. So im "forced" to take online classes at CGMW master classes. Its one of the 2 concept art online schools available.
Always awesome! Thank you Feng Zhu!
@burgercris Learn how Flow and Opacity works. A lowered flow generally makes your brush strokes blend in better. Also, textured brushes helps.
obviously depends on what you want to paint but If i'm unsure, I usually just start in A3, sometimes widen it as I'm jotting down the composition
@InnovationalFilms
Equipment is pretty straight forward these days:
Fast PC or MAC (laptop or desktop, doesn't matter. If you do a lot of on-site remote work, then obviously a laptop is the clear choice).
Big, high res screen (30" screen with 1920x1200 or higher res...I prefer 2560x1600)
Photoshop (any version since CS1 is great. I use CS1 at work, and CS5 at home studio)
Wacom Intuos 3, 4 or Cintiq (all great...completely up to personal preference and budget).
that's about all you need
@Fengdesigns
And to continue: Age really doesn't matter match. But I do think you have to evaluate your standard of living. At my age (also 30s), I just can't stay-up all night and take on 3 freelance projects at once. I probably can gather the energy if I forced myself, but I don't want to any more :)
Many of my friends are in the 40s and even 50s and are doing great in design. So at the end of the day, it's your portfolio and results that counts, not age.
wow ,i was watching your previous videos as you posted this one. I'll be sure to watch this as soon as i finish those :)
@haluEve
The applicant has to be physically and mentally fit to pursue the program as it is an intensive 1 year program. On top of that, if English is not your main language, an English proficiency test result is required.
Feng, Thanks for your videos they are awesome. I get the fact that online courses are not your prefered way of teaching and I can also relate to the fact that it's less beneficial than live lessons, but to completely scrap the idea of online courses is somewhat of a disappointment, there might be viewers who are just happy to learn a few tricks and are just hobby painters/designers/,... , if you say that online courses are not beneficial at all then what is the point of these videos ? I always thought they were ment to teach us something. (This is just my personal opinion) I love your videos and I hope you keep making new ones !
@ Feng, I think a reason why I would want to know what kind of brush you use is not because of a secret shortcut. I would ask because of how good the strokes look in the earliest stage. It's very easy to come up with ideas very early in these videos, and some of that is the brush; opacity and flow. Because this has such a rough learning curve, any edge a student has to advance is most welcome.
That's why I would ask what brush you use, at any rate.
He adds a layer on top of everything and paint it black, then set it on saturation mode. When he needs to see the paint in grayscale he just turn the black layer on. In fact he is painting on the layer underneath.
The Gnomon Workshop has very quality fundamentals. If you're serious about wanting to take your art to the next level, the price is worth it. You can buy a dvd to see if it's for you, and then buy more over time as your skills progress. :)
Your tutorials are like the early morning coffees!!
@SuperGamer87
I know many pros who use this technique. In fact, sometimes clients will provide the rough 3D (especially for FPS games and platforming games such as Tomb Raider, etc; because level layout is super important). I don't use this technique much, but it is a great process....as long as you can model the base design as fast as somebody draws. 3D tends to be slower, but the quality is much higher. So it's a trade-off. Take a look at Hawkprey's work (epic games)...great 2d/3d hybrids.
I suppose that depends on what its for, and on the composition.
i tent to stick to 2000 by 4000 for personal environments but when someone needs something high rez, it's usually up to them
@TheKunoj
We actually interview students to see where their head is at. We want students who like to design first. Having a strong drawing ability helps, but it is NOT the most important part prior to enrolling. One can express a design via drawings, 3d models, physical models, words, etc. I've seen students who can't draw at all become excellent designers with professional quality portfolios simply because they worked hard and had the ability to design.
hmmm. Interesting things you mention. First time i actually hear them, trough always suspected. Thank you for sharing.
i think in a previous video he created a new layer strictly for colour and set the layer to 'colour' mode from the dropdown box. i think that makes the colours he chooses overlay any tonal value on the layers beneath. i think that's right, but then again i may have misinterpreted your question :)
i like the part where you mention that this isn't art but production. I like how you know what space this fits into
Pure awesomeness
Superb as always. Keep them coming, we love them!
this guy. is amazing. you are fantastic. you are the best. amazing. love everything you do. and your style, is fucken fabulous. Rock on.
@dionicpaint
Think of "Art" as something personal while "Design" could be viewed as creating a product for someone else. Say one person made painting for themselves but another person coincidentally made the same exact painting for a client. Even though they are the same painting, one is considered art while the other is considered design. Even the thought process that goes behind designing and doing your own art could be similar, but the intention is what's different.
@insepto7
There's an advantage and disadvantage to age. The bonus is that your brain is more exposed to the world; it's mature, knows a lot of stuff, have good analysis skills, etc. All of which are important in design. Once you learn to draw, it comes together.
The negative side is usually your energy level. Younger designers in their 20s can do all-nights and work 7 days a week. Someone in their 30s will have a hard time keeping up...and that *might* effect your career path.
@dionicpaint
Check out the fat bug painting. That's more along the lines of artwork..and the episode starts with a blank canvas and goes all the way to finish :)
how often do you work at 100% opacity and how often and when do you bring that down? Thanks for sharing your gift with us on youtube!
i can see how recording the detailing process could "seem" boring. But honestly I find doing the sky and the base values to be the most boring part. Once I get to the detailing and I can see an item go from a blur to a believable person, animal or structure, I can't stop. Values make the shape and part of the feel. But if you discount production time and just paint I think the detailing is the most fun. I guess with the amount of artwork you do though, it starts to feel a little bit different.
Thanks man! The book looks interesting; Considering a purchase.
Can't beat this!
@insepto7 :
C,mon dude never underestimate yourself, even i am 35 not as famous or talented like Feng but still i sell products to the international market! Feng is a legend of our time, always keep yourself motivated man!
wtf...You are the god with the magic brush ^ ^ --> great work
Thanks this is so helpful. I can never seem to get past the 'scribbly' stage in my artwork because it is so boring to me. Thank you for this video!
@Shinsou10
spot on!
i wish i could go to singapore to do your classes!! this is my dream job, to do concept art for big games companies and movies! Whether its landscapes, ships, characters or creatures...i just want to do this!
@Fengdesigns yes sirrr Mr Feng!!!! I have talked to some of your students and they said the same thing.No online classes from you since you guys focus on the fundamentals a lot.
Its fine though. Ill manage to find a way to go to Singapore and study with you. In the mean time I am trying desperately to find a local school to get me started with some of the fundamentals. Thanks for replying, I really appreciate it : )
Wow really cool i ever seen~..
You're just amazing! And your advice also seems spot on! I just subscribed!
(By the way, you might get this a lot, but I mistook you at first for "idrawgirls". You sound quite a lot like him, and both of you do paintings with lots of mood. I've lived in Singapore, so I'm not just stereotyping everyone who sounds a bit Chinese. You really do sound like him.)
Anyway, thanks so much for the free stuff!
We all like fzd:) great video but watch in full screen in HD everyone
Hello Feng!
Thank you for the awesome tutorial, I actually would like to suggest something for the next video tutorial. You mentioned in the video that you start with perspective in your classes with your students... could you perhaps do a quick tutorial on using perspective for both Organic and Geometric figures? I find that both myself and even others have trouble with getting perspective down, as it's a tricky subject to learn.
~Thanks again!
@Fengdesigns thank you for replying so quickly =), I think you've allready explained this conceptbefore (and I've heard it before) where light in the atmosphere travels farther the shorter (i think) wavelegths colors like blue and purple travel farther, but I was more asking about materials and how saturation works on them. For example if the sunlight comes directly from a person behind then the inside of the year would look really saturated with red (if you have good sources could u share them
damn id love to take this course...but its all the way in Singapore....wish i could find something like this in the uk......
Feng Zhu you are awesom!! watched all your videos!
BTW, anyone knows How often dose he releases a video?
AWESOME
maybe not 80£ ... but yes. don't even think about using a mouse this is counter-intuitive. i have a wacom bamboo one which was not even 30£, and i can not describe how big the difference is.
Hey, Feng! I've seen a few artists use basic 3D models set up in to use as a base to paint over and incorporate elements into a concept art piece. When it comes to vehicles, I'm a better 3D modeler than 2D artist, I want to use some 3D vehicle elements to incorporate into my work (esp. as I learn to become better at painting vehicles). Do you use 3D elements sometimes? And if so, do you do basic lighting on the base 3D models within the modeler, or do you paint all the lighting in 2D?
Great video! Can't wait for the next one! :)
mhh. really interesting.
my big problem is that i can do a basic structur with some nice colors and landshapes, but the first few details are really hard to paint for me. any ideas, tips or videolinks for me?
42 is 1337% of pi (3.14) . Also 42 is the magic number in the hitchikers guide to the galaxy
What size canvas do you use in this tutorial, what is the width and hight in cm/mm. When it comes to printing my pictures i usually have no choice but to crop or downsize the image. Can you please give me some advice what to do. I am a subscriber on your channel. Thanks
This seems like a really interesting career, even with all the harsh realities of business, but It's too big a risk. I'd have to quit my job and uproot, even if I didn't go to Singapore. I'll have to stick with art and design as a hobby, which is why it's a shame you can't learn the fundamentals online.
So even though english is my primary language, it would be in my best interest to go have a refresher course for g12 english?
thank you soooo much for doing these videos
Excellent words of wisdom. I especially like that first piece.
Can't thank you enough for posting these Feng!
Quick question - Will some of the graduation pieces be posted online? I would like to see them but can't make it to the show...
There are other ways too buddy, there are books and things you can buy, that can teach you many things about the fundamentals. For example, for christmas i recieved a book, i think its called Video Game Art by Chris Solarski, the whole first section of the book up until nearly halfway is dedicated to learning the fundamentals :) hope this helps :)
How do you get you brush strokes to blend well
@TheKunoj if you have genuine interest to draw, your portfolio should be able to show it. if your portfolio shows your genuine interest to draw, your ability to pick things up would probably be greater than someone who has the same skill level as yours, but doesn't have the drive to draw.
I'm not sure if you'll be able to see this but I still want to ask. Sorry if this question has been answered already through one of your videos but I can't exactly watch each one of it. If anyone knows, I'd greatly appreciate it. My question is: How do you do paint on grayscale without ruining the color underneath? I just don't get it. Is the grayscale on a special layer mode or something? Thank you so much in advanced.
I can't be the only one that jumped when you said "5000 px wide is small" ?!
+David Dutschke yeah
Yeah I think my computer whimpered a bit at that too..
Hi Mr Feng, I have a question that are in my mind from a little time. I'm new in this industry and I'm wondering to became a concept artist some day. But my problem is that I started late in this industry because different circunstancies. I'm in the thirties and one stuff of all this industry is that it seems to be only for peolple in twenties.
Do I have some opportunity to become professional being "old"?
@999yuiop
You can actually self-teach everything. However, the problem usually is the time-management/discipline issue. Most people won't force themselves to do homework every night and get 4 hrs of sleep and practice months after month. Therefore, the learning process becomes much slooooooower than someone who is doing it everyday under the pressure of school.
Hi i have a question im a begginer to DP and im lookin for my first tablet, unfortunately i dont have enough money to get pro tablet for few hundert dolars. So i did a bit of research and i found those 2 models PENTAGRAM O'pen Wide and Wacom Bamboo Fun Pen&Touch S i dont yet know anything bout their quality, but many ppl say that "There is only Wacom", "Wacom FTW" etc. at the same time Pentagram specification looks better and its even cheaper(in my country) so pls post your opinions bout them.
Hey Feng!
another great video! Thank you for this :)
I have one question - how do you bring up the tool windows in that photoshop mode? I guess you hit the "F" button twice but than all the menus disappear? How do you bring them up if you need them? do you use shortcuts for that?
I rather work in that mode even if I'm no concept artist but learning graphic design :)
Thank you in advance!
keep up the good work
I would like to you where you get your reference and your stock photos. Do you Google Image them, library books, or do you take a camera outside take it yourself?
I'll check it out, thanks!
18 hours a day you crazy son!
So, here where I live we don't have design school. How do you suggest to learn the basics? books? I really need to know this please ^^
But what is the required score/result of the GCSE (exam after 12 years studying), Mr Feng?
which episode is the "fat bug" episode
god i wish i could go there to your school
@TheKunoj Seriously? They aren't teaching you how to draw they are advancing your skills so that you can raise to a "higher level" You have to be able to somewhat draw and know the basic and they teach you the advanced stuff.
NOTHING YOU DO IS BORING
just saying :)
SUPREME EMPEROR MITTENS agree
does anyone know how he just grabs a particular part of the picture and enlarges it?
Can this be done with a mouse or do I need to go and spend £80 to get a tablet
resolution and size of document please :)
hey can u put up some of your brusshes for download please :D
What dpi??? 300 or 600
He said exactly in this video why there is no FZD online classes.
You can't do this to this detail with a mouse. You can try, but it's very difficult to have the same amount of control. If you're serious about digital painting, then you will have to dish out the money to get the tools necessary. It's costly, but a tablet for a person wanting to paint digitally is a necessity.
10:30 where can I find this picture?
Get the Wacom.