I Like The Console War

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  • @madcat789
    @madcat789 Рік тому +870

    I was there.
    In the Sega US Battalion. I fought for three years, but we just couldn't stop them. Playstation destroyed our forticiations, Nintendo ravaged our men, my Dreamcast was hit by three DVDs before we were forced to halt and dig in. We lost Fatty, our PSO sniper. I managed to survive, we were picked up by Xbox and they helped to take us in as refugees.
    I remember those wars.
    They shall not be forgotten.

    • @fluffy_tail4365
      @fluffy_tail4365 Рік тому +83

      Our most prized exclusives were distributed between the winners....it still hurts!

    • @madcat789
      @madcat789 Рік тому +54

      @@fluffy_tail4365 They tore our carcass apart, and consumed our prized possessions. I hear some pockets remain, privately. But it's so hard to find them now.

    • @lumirairazbyte9697
      @lumirairazbyte9697 Рік тому +22

      And what Nintendo gave their fans after winning the war… did they just shutdown their Wii U and 3DS stores??

    • @madcat789
      @madcat789 Рік тому +19

      @@lumirairazbyte9697 Just a few days ago. If only things had been different, and mistakes unmade.

    • @ogjk
      @ogjk Рік тому +20

      As a fellow Sega refugee,well spoken.

  • @existentialselkath1264
    @existentialselkath1264 Рік тому +3

    Companies competing is almost always good. Fanboys however, are not. Loyal customers that don't judge products on their own merits actively damage competition.

  • @thedeafeningdunce
    @thedeafeningdunce Рік тому +4

    1:35 Well, not in the streets, but it certainly divided me and my friend to a violent level when we were in middle school.

  • @oreo_frito
    @oreo_frito Рік тому +1

    ahhh, when the console wars made each company actually make good games or bag GOOD exclusives.

  • @LeDoctorBones
    @LeDoctorBones Рік тому +8

    Competition is generally better than a monopoly. Though, there are problems with exclusivity, especially in online distribution. This is most clearly seen in the decline of streaming caused by fragmentation but it could also be called a problem of the console war.
    I am fine with console players, who feel mobile games to not be "real" games or at least "real" gaming. I am of the superior PC master race and know neither console nor mobile is real gaming, there is only the PC!

  • @Dogking71
    @Dogking71 Рік тому

    My man, amazing video! I've never heard of you before, but I'm a fan now!

  • @necropolistc6357
    @necropolistc6357 Рік тому

    the only way to force innovation and good prices is with competition, our current inflation here in the US is being cause by the fact that only 4 companies own literally everything under the guise of the brand names they own

    • @PlatinumAltaria
      @PlatinumAltaria Рік тому

      Brand loyalty and exclusive releases are both anti-competition.

  • @harrybuttery2447
    @harrybuttery2447 Рік тому

    I think the most important factor is what games a console has and I don't care about anything else.
    But whether a console has good games is subjective, so then really there is not much point in arguing about it.

  • @V972
    @V972 Рік тому

    5:25
    I get what you're trying to say, but "fun" and "argument" should not be in the same sentense.

  • @chris7263
    @chris7263 Рік тому +261

    I realize this is from having been a gamer in the late 90s and early 2000s, but I always felt like the only real reason to prefer one console to another was because of which exclusive content you were into. I liked Zelda games so I was Nintendo, my friend was Playstation because she liked Final Fantasy. That was it. What else is supposed to matter.

    • @baraodascolinas979
      @baraodascolinas979 Рік тому +10

      - Graphics was (and Still is) also a factor. The PS1 stomped sega with 3D graphics, and I think sega x Nintendo mainly evolved from going 8 bits to 32 bits (?) each génération of consoles. But of course that is not absolute, because Xbox classic HAD way better graphics than PS2, but the latter had Much more exclusives and gigantic library with the rétrocompatibility

    • @Gnidel
      @Gnidel Рік тому +9

      Exactly - because if you valued anything else, you went with PC.

    • @GoldenSun3DS
      @GoldenSun3DS Рік тому +5

      ​@@Gnidel Yep. Once I had a job and gaming PC, I realized that a hacked/homebrewed console was just a shitty PC. The dream of a single console with all the exclusives? That's just a gaming PC.

    • @abotaccount6094
      @abotaccount6094 Рік тому +6

      The only reason to prefer one console over another is which console you friends have

    • @mrblooper1994
      @mrblooper1994 Рік тому +9

      @@abotaccount6094 that was the 360/ps3 time. Before then almost no one played online and it didn't matter as much

  • @lavalord96
    @lavalord96 Рік тому +535

    I like it because in the beginning, it encouraged companies to make the best possible games/consoles with greater quality control.

    • @ORLY911
      @ORLY911 Рік тому +49

      Now it encourages raising the prices of games and subs by 10 dollars every couple years.

    • @kingdeedee
      @kingdeedee Рік тому +22

      @@ORLY911 tbh thats got more to do with inflation. There's a reason why Xbox bumped their standard game price even after putting on a fake consumer friendly act and saying they wouldn't despite Sony already having done it

    • @ORLY911
      @ORLY911 Рік тому +47

      @@kingdeedee So that means the prices will go down once inflation goes down too? yeah? Hm, somehow I don't think so lol.

    • @tardvandecluntproductions1278
      @tardvandecluntproductions1278 Рік тому +32

      That would require deflation, which never really happens.

    • @speed3414
      @speed3414 Рік тому

      @@kingdeedee inflation my ass, they just want to charge more, plain and simple

  • @relaetsecyr
    @relaetsecyr Рік тому +313

    A useless war with no stakes. The best thing ever

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 Рік тому +8

      With only all wars were like that

    • @danielwordsworth1843
      @danielwordsworth1843 Рік тому +9

      Now make everyone believe there are stakes and you have 1984

    • @MarioKartSuperCircuit
      @MarioKartSuperCircuit Рік тому +1

      Is Nintendo just neutral these days?

    • @greenoftreeblackofblue6625
      @greenoftreeblackofblue6625 Рік тому +8

      ​@@MarioKartSuperCircuitif you get a Xbox or a Playstation you're still probably going to get a switch. It was kinda just something you get like with the wii. Now the Steam Index is pretty big too so you might get that instead or maybe also have that and the switch.

    • @awesomeman8955
      @awesomeman8955 Рік тому

      ​@@greenoftreeblackofblue6625why the fuck would you ever get more than one console at a time

  • @benst3r628
    @benst3r628 Рік тому +41

    *"The console wars are not meant to be won. It was meant to be continuous."*
    - George Orwell, I think

  • @GunnGuardian
    @GunnGuardian Рік тому +219

    I think the Console war is so endearing because it's mostly harmless at the end of the day (at least for the people who don't take it too seriously), nobody is getting hurt because people are ripping into Sony's press conference more. It's all the fun of drama without the consequences.

    • @bosssnurp5912
      @bosssnurp5912 Рік тому +3

      No but really playstation is better Xbox’s design and UI have stayed the same since 2015

    • @bosssnurp5912
      @bosssnurp5912 Рік тому

      @@chaosknight3605 Not really, maybe at a functional level but they look visually distinct unlike xbox one vs xbox series s/x UI and overall appearance

    • @bosssnurp5912
      @bosssnurp5912 Рік тому

      @@chaosknight3605 Tired of seeing your opinion or my own? Somewhat confused by the wording there.

    • @bosssnurp5912
      @bosssnurp5912 Рік тому

      @@chaosknight3605 Okay.

  • @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
    @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor Рік тому +239

    90s-00s console war commercials were crazy.

    • @WoolyNips
      @WoolyNips Рік тому +7

      I remember when the PlayStation was released. Talk about a toxic fan base lol

    • @drg19841
      @drg19841 Рік тому +2

      Yup me too. I was a big Sega fanboy and have a Saturn. It was painful watching new game releases slow to a trickle by 1998. But I wanted the Dreamcast for Christmas 99. Still have that too.

    • @lexecomplexe4083
      @lexecomplexe4083 Рік тому +3

      Sega does what Nintendo'nt

    • @The_MEMEphis
      @The_MEMEphis Рік тому +1

      ​@@WoolyNips lol Xbox was way worse when it came out

    • @ranchius
      @ranchius Рік тому

      ​@@The_MEMEphis What about the Sega Genesis fanboys? I didn't live back then, but I always got the impression they were incredibly toxic.

  • @justinweber4977
    @justinweber4977 Рік тому +142

    I still quote the old "Sega does what NintenDon't." add to my friend who usually just says
    "How's that working out for them?"

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex Рік тому +37

      eh, it still is imo.
      they don't get super pissy at their fans making fan content or shitposting about their IPs.
      and they don't overcharge you for terrible online services, lol.

    • @justinweber4977
      @justinweber4977 Рік тому +8

      @@vizthex Fair. Though at this point it's just us screwing around haha.
      Like me insisting that Cassette Tapes are set to make a comeback.

    • @woldemunster9244
      @woldemunster9244 Рік тому +8

      @@justinweber4977 I have a "big" SEGA game collection on Steam but no Nintendo. :/
      C-cassette has made a comeback already.

    • @mrblooper1994
      @mrblooper1994 Рік тому +9

      @@vizthex by IPs you just mean sonic. Try and mess around with streets of rage or Atlus stuff or Yakuza. You're hearing from their lawyers for sure

    • @lonewolfgames7779
      @lonewolfgames7779 Рік тому +3

      ​@@justinweber4977 because THEY are

  • @waterbears9874
    @waterbears9874 Рік тому +46

    I used to think console wars were petty and I used to be glad people weren’t like that (mostly) anymore, but the world is so much less fun without grown men fighting and showing their passion for their favorite console tbh

    • @speed3414
      @speed3414 Рік тому +8

      favorite plastic box*

    • @Matty002
      @Matty002 Рік тому

      ​@@speed3414 more like ~the cloud~ lol

  • @WayOutGaming
    @WayOutGaming Рік тому +63

    To be fair, I think it's because in the grand scheme of things Xbox and Playstation are too similar in offerings. Basically all major publishers publish for both, and neither Sony or Microsoft have a ton of exclusive IPs like Nintendo. Sega was marketedly different from Nintendo, and even games released for both systems could be completely different games. Nowadays you pick Xbox or Playstation based on whether you like game pass or PS... Pass... Or whatever the heck it's called

    • @drg19841
      @drg19841 Рік тому +24

      Exactly. Their both based around AMD apus, 90% of the games are coming to both consoles and PC, it's really not that big of difference anymore. During the PS1/N64/Dreamcast overlap there was often a huge difference in quality between the systems. Now? Basically nothing.

    • @csabaszabo6859
      @csabaszabo6859 Рік тому +2

      I'm pretty sure the consol war will eventualy gonna die because of this.

    • @WayOutGaming
      @WayOutGaming Рік тому +12

      Honestly most of the "serious" arguments around Xbox vs. Sony comes down to which company you prefer anyways. So it's not really a console war but a corporate war

    • @darrenmacqueen9884
      @darrenmacqueen9884 Рік тому +6

      Game Pass is better than Playstation Plus from what I hear, but I still buy Playstation because I prefer their first party games over Xbox's. That's really all there is to it for the most part. The console war is a silly argument. It's like arguing over what the best pizza place in town is. Which I have actually seen people argue about, but we really shouldn't.

    • @CarbyGuuGuu
      @CarbyGuuGuu Рік тому +3

      Exactly, the Switch still has better exclusives than PlayStation or Xbox. I bought an Xbox Series S because it was what I could afford at the moment and simply to play any multiplatform releases that will either never make it to Switch or get a cloud version (screw that).
      There are only a handful of PS5 exclusives that appeal to me like Ratchet & Clank, while Xbox is… well… Hi-Fi Rush.
      Both platforms struggle to have the same iconic library the had in previous generations because they’re simply chasing fads. PS with “cinematic” experiences, and Xbox with live-service games.
      Hi-Fi Rush is a good start, but much of the other Xbox exclusives wish they had that amount of love and effort. Redfall used to be my most hyped release but is now looking like a mixed bag after recent previews.
      MS is too busy burning money on AI to even care…

  • @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor
    @JustChillinOnThe5thFloor Рік тому +63

    Console wars ended for me when the suits kept calling gamers "consumers"

    • @MrDeathmaster131
      @MrDeathmaster131 Рік тому +13

      They are tho.

    • @computerfri3nd
      @computerfri3nd Рік тому +9

      I mean they are though, what do you want them to call them "games inthusiasts"

    • @Valoric
      @Valoric Рік тому +10

      @@computerfri3nd how about customers instead of something derogatory like every single other normal business? Would you prefer to be called a consumer when you go to Starbucks?

    • @abotaccount6094
      @abotaccount6094 Рік тому +5

      ​@@Valoric words hurt but the meaning behind them doesnt? You are a consumer no matter what you call yourself

    • @Valoric
      @Valoric Рік тому +14

      @@abotaccount6094 Consumer is what condescending people call their chattel to dehumanize them. Customers deserve respect. No one except the few in the world who truly cannot create. You cook food. You create. Consumer should be reserved for the lowest of the low in society. Not broad swaths as if to belittle almost all of mankind as scum beneath your masters feet.
      The only reason I'm drawing the distinction is because mindset matters. Believing or accepting you're a consumer is even worse than the pricks who call everyone that.

  • @kcadventures1454
    @kcadventures1454 Рік тому +18

    I try to tell people all the time that competition is a good thing! You dont want just one console to have a monopoly on the industry.

    • @valletas
      @valletas Рік тому +1

      Yeah look at how nintendo is doing
      Switch is shit durability wise and since they dont really have any real competition on the handheld market now their next console will probably be the same
      And i say that as someone who owns a switch

  • @_Devil
    @_Devil Рік тому +52

    The console wars are a relic of the past but the past is looking more and more desirable as I get older, so I think they should stay around lmao. I loathe Tribalism and Consumerism immensely but I still think it's funny watching the Cavemen bicker amongst themselves. For me, the best part is watching both sides brag about their exclusives, and then watching those exclusives all get ported to PC anyways. Granted for PlayStation I have to wait a couple years to get their games but eventually is better than never imo

    • @tacosunbirth
      @tacosunbirth Рік тому

      "The Cavemen bicker amongst themselves" get off your high horse, dude, it's fuckin' video games lol

    • @vizthex
      @vizthex Рік тому +4

      but still no bloodborne after 8 years :c

  • @lumirairazbyte9697
    @lumirairazbyte9697 Рік тому +13

    The modern console wars SAVED us from the always-online requirement of Xbox One and the PS3 store shutdowns.
    Meanwhile Nintendo, chilling in the background, just shut down their Wii U and 3DS stores, charging money from a poorly Online service and delisting iconic games. And they gets away with it, now that their competitor was long time gone (SEGA).

    • @baraodascolinas979
      @baraodascolinas979 Рік тому

      Hopefully Steam deck Will be the New competitor in the portable console, and the chinese Open consoles too (ambernic, etc)

    • @NrettG
      @NrettG Рік тому +1

      @@baraodascolinas979 As long as Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon stay with Nintendo, they'll never go away. Steam deck and the open pc handhelds have loads of advantages and are leagues ahead of whatever nintendo hardware puts out.
      But if you try to tell a parent a step beyond "buying the game cartridge" to get those games on a steam deck their not going to listen because it's "much harder".

    • @baraodascolinas979
      @baraodascolinas979 Рік тому

      @@NrettG that is true, but even nintendo is not invulnerable. They trashed my country (Brazil) : They took out the official store, And charge Full price for Games on digital stores in foreign currencies, and still do not make subtitles or dubbings. Result : Only young adults play Nintendo Now, and vast majority pirate their consoles and games. Kids are playing Minecraft, other games. Nintendo is past in Brasil therefore.
      If Steam Goes and Say, create a separate store front (Steam Kids ?), with select good quality and kid friendly Games, and charges their prices, and switch emulation continues perfecting, people Will slowly Switch to steam and pirate Nintendo too.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Рік тому +12

    "You're basically telling everybody, 'I'm willing to have an argument right now.'"
    *I'm going to stow that line for later; thanks!*

  • @WarlockX4
    @WarlockX4 Рік тому +14

    It's good to have healthy competition. It makes you want to strive to be better. If it was just one company we would be stuck playing whatever garbage they regurgitate.

  • @liamcollinson5695
    @liamcollinson5695 Рік тому +3

    I hope the console wars end it's fun for kids in high school but once you become a adult it's just pathetic. it also stops more games been cross platform

  • @thehumanian634
    @thehumanian634 Рік тому +10

    I still barely sleep after the bombing of the Xbox one, all those dreams ended in the blink of an eye. I served in the halo brigade but only a few made it to the other end of 5

  • @Nerdtendo6366
    @Nerdtendo6366 Рік тому +54

    The Chad Warden reference didn’t go unnoticed

  • @thecluckster3908
    @thecluckster3908 Рік тому +11

    I feel like the reason the console war happens is because people want to feel like they picked the better option, and so they argue about it to validate that.

  • @fluffy_tail4365
    @fluffy_tail4365 Рік тому +14

    Consoles wars used to be a little more meaningsul when companies had different strategies, gamefeel and looks...nowdays they are a bit too box-like to make it worthwile

  • @Matty002
    @Matty002 Рік тому +4

    these corporations make so much money off us. the 'wars' couldve been used to make them give us good games and treat and pay the developers properly but instead we have crunch incentivization for social media presence because investors

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Рік тому +3

    *Xbox, Switch, and PlayStation pause their fighting to survey the new challenger.*
    *OUYA emerges from the mist!*

    • @yoshimasterleader
      @yoshimasterleader Рік тому +1

      Don't you mean OUYA emerges from the grave? Besides the Steam Deck and all the other new gaming handhelds is making a lot of noise now.

  • @cristobalcarrascovicente
    @cristobalcarrascovicente Рік тому +17

    I liked console wars because thanks to them i met one of my best friends ever,he was a Xbox fan and i was a Playstation one
    I remember telling him about bloodborne being exclusive and him having all Halo for himself when we were around 12yo
    I love this dude and we are still on different consoles

    • @JohnnyVee007
      @JohnnyVee007 Рік тому

      what's it like being a Playstation one??

    • @cristobalcarrascovicente
      @cristobalcarrascovicente Рік тому +1

      @@JohnnyVee007 i like it,it feels cozy 😭

    • @applehazeva2739
      @applehazeva2739 Рік тому

      I honestly like the diversity in console tastes upon my friends
      My best one is all Xbox
      My second best one is an Playstation Guy
      I'm the PC and Steam Deck Guy
      My most other friends own some sort of Nintendo Switch
      Crossplay is the best thing out of 8th and 9th Gen

  • @darrenmacqueen9884
    @darrenmacqueen9884 Рік тому +2

    I hate the console war. I play on Nintendo and Sony consoles and never owned a Microsoft console purely because the Sony and Nintendo exclusives have always looked more interesting to me. Because of that, I don't really follow what Microsoft is doing and almost never even bring them up when I'm talking about video games. I don't praise nor criticize them. Nintendo and Sony, however, I both praise and criticize when they make decisions. And I hate that every time I criticize a bad decision from Nintendo or Sony I get labeled a hater. I'm forced to clarify just how much I'm actually a fan of them, and that's exactly why I care when they do something wrong. I don't care what Microsoft is doing because I'm not a fan of them.

  • @drg19841
    @drg19841 Рік тому +10

    The console wars go back even before the Sega - Nintendo era. Before the video game crash of 1983 there were 3 main players. Atari, Coleco and Intellivision. However before it could get really bad the videogame market killed public perception of gaming. Atari got sold off, Coleco went bankrupt and Mattel who owned Intellivision sold off that section of the company.

  • @KennyFrierson
    @KennyFrierson Рік тому +28

    This might be the most out of left field take. I think the newer wars are less wars than console boxing matches.

  • @windmonkey95
    @windmonkey95 Рік тому +6

    If you stacked the charts tracking the popularity of the console wars and the player satisfaction with games coming out (on either side) I guarantee they'd be nearly identical. Companies will ONLY put in effort to make worthwhile products if there is someone else making a better version of that product threatening to take their customer base away.

  • @ShadyPaperclips
    @ShadyPaperclips Рік тому +5

    I think console wars is fun when it's just goofy arguments over which games/services/consoles are better.
    The problem is there are a lot of deranged individuals who take it too far.
    Like that PS fanboy who started console-warring mid-surgery.
    Or like the Brazilian Xbox community 'XboxMilGrau' that got so deranged MS had to ask them to remove 'Xbox' from their channel's name (I mean they would literally make tons of racist/homophobic/sexist statements and one time even joked that the Xbox community should treat the PS community like Jews during WW2 even said they were a sub-human race, joked that slavery should've never ended, posted a image portraying White people as superior)
    That kind of console wars to me is just despicable.

  • @gt-j1035
    @gt-j1035 Рік тому +9

    I love the analogy with "Age of Empires" since I am literally that guy (a history buff who prefers top-down real time strategy games over whatever tf Naughty Dog is doing) :)

    • @mutavhello6654
      @mutavhello6654 Рік тому +3

      If you're a history buff then name everything that's happened in history.

    • @bigboiariel
      @bigboiariel Рік тому

      ​@@mutavhello6654 it all started 13.8 billion years ago, when your mother was born.

    • @gt-j1035
      @gt-j1035 Рік тому

      @@mutavhello6654 ua-cam.com/video/xuCn8ux2gbs/v-deo.html

  • @dongodongo12
    @dongodongo12 Рік тому +3

    The xbox:
    Backwards compatible - good
    Little to no exclusives worth playing - bad
    Game pass - good
    But normalizing not actually owning games as a selling point I don't think its good
    Playstation:
    Many exclusives and Japanese games come out - good
    Slow rollout of features like ps plus extra and discord - bad
    Streaming of ps3 games - not ideal
    Slow rollout of classic games - disappointing
    Xbox normalized paying for online fuck you guys
    Playstation games normalized 70 dollar games (although its a developer decision for non PS exclusives)
    They all suck, but i play on playstation because i like japanese games

  • @The_Arcadian
    @The_Arcadian Рік тому +4

    As someone who plays all consoles and pc I still enjoy the war from the sidelines. It fuels competition and that helps with keeping quality up. Nintendo’s refusal to participate in the wars is probably a factor in why their games run like dirt. Like I love Nintendo games but the switch fps issue is ruining the experience for a lotta games.

  • @BryanVonFriently
    @BryanVonFriently Рік тому +3

    The thing with PC in the console wars is that PC is such a varied platform it is meaningless to bring it up. Consoles of the same type are all the same, a PS4 is a PS4, an XBONE is an XBONE, All PS4's are the same as all other PS4's, all PS4 Pro's are the same as all other PS4 Pro's etc.
    A Pc can be anything from a 10 dollar secondhand store pc filled with scrap that won't even run tetris without lagging to hell, to a ~500 dollar pc built with like a 1050 inside that runs everything kinda moderately, not oo bad but not exceptional, all the way to a trillion dollar supercomputer with 20 Titan Omega XXX running things in 500k omega high quality. All three are Pc's and no the first and second one cannot be excluded because they're worse, they're both equally as much a Pc than the expensive one.
    If we're gonna go down that route you could laugh as a console player and be like "lmfao even the ps2 is better than that crusty dollarstore pc" and they would be completely correct because yes, the ps2 would be more powerful than that dollarstore pc, and by extension, a pc, is that a legitimate way to argue about these things? No. Because it never will be, Pc's do not at all fit into the console equation because its like comparing bicycles and then coming in "uh cars are better"
    Plus every time i check for the heck of it, it is almost impossible to make a Pc with performance exceeding consoles but staying below their price range since more often than not a new GPU capable of outperforming what the consoles have will cost as much or more than the entire console itself.

  • @canis2020
    @canis2020 Рік тому +4

    Consoles are for plebes, real gamers play Doom on their microwave.

  • @michaele1654
    @michaele1654 Рік тому +3

    Speaking of how console wars have rules, I have rules for discussing PCs compared to consoles. It has to be a prebuilt PC that costs the same price as the mainstream consoles. If I were to buy a $500 prebuilt Gaming Desktop from Lenovo or Dell or whatever, could it outperform a PS5 and Series X? I doubt it. The benefit to consoles is that there's very little set-up required-- you plug it in, hit the power button, and it works. So comparing a $500 game console that you bought at Walmart to a $2500 PC that you built in your garage? That's ridiculous and unfair. But comparing a $500 game console that is sold in Aisle 7 of your local Best Buy to a $500 desktop that is sold in aisle 10 of your local Best Buy? That's a fair-ish comparison (I mean, game consoles don't usually have word processing or email, while the Desktop is a multipurpose device so it's still apples to oranges, but it's the fairest comparison possible).

  • @knightwolf1363
    @knightwolf1363 Рік тому +21

    Growing up during the 2010s it was actually cool as shit seeing different game company’s doing different things I remember putting the PS4 above the Xbox since it had a whole Vr side that was actually awesome tbh but beyond that I’m with you! I love console wars I think people will work harder and strives to be competitive against other game company’s

    • @andyn46
      @andyn46 Рік тому +2

      I was in middle/high school during the 7th gen. I was a PlayStation household and was in a class full of Xbox families, I defended the PS3 and cell architecture to death. Funnily enough I ditched Sony this generation, GamePass is too good of a deal to pass up and the pansy ass PS+ service is nowhere near a competitor

    • @internettraveler8666
      @internettraveler8666 Рік тому

      @@andyn46 but gamepass is on pc and playstation exclusives are on pc

    • @andyn46
      @andyn46 Рік тому +1

      @@internettraveler8666 thanks captain obvious, I and millions of other console gamers don’t play PC

  • @thismakesnosense
    @thismakesnosense Рік тому +7

    "What about all the good things war has done for us? Why don't we ever hear speeches about that? Jobs, technology, a common purpose... All we're sayin' is... GIVE WAR A CHANCE!"
    - Sundowner

  • @atimholt
    @atimholt Рік тому +6

    I've been a PC gamer all my life, with forays into Nintendo on occasion (DS, Wii, Switch), but I still hold mild interest in hearing about this stuff from a distance.

    • @CaH6633
      @CaH6633 Рік тому +3

      If you have a PC and a Nintendo console you probably have access to everything you're gonna wanna play anyway lol

    • @atimholt
      @atimholt Рік тому +1

      @@CaH6633 Exactly.

  • @andrewmorgan6734
    @andrewmorgan6734 Рік тому +6

    For years I was a ride or die Nintendo Kid. I never took the console wars too serious, it was no more than a mere novelty to me. My friends often criticize me for playing consoles over a PC. I am console collector, I have played and collected various consoles spanning over the past 40 years. I find more fun experiencing and comparing those various consoles and their libraries from various eras with other collectors.

    • @TcLeviathon
      @TcLeviathon Рік тому

      same here. was a die hard xbox kid now i own every console that’s come out since 96 from the major 3. it’s fun to learn the history of this stuff. and i like hearing what others have to say. brings it charm!

  • @ihavetowait90daystochangem67
    @ihavetowait90daystochangem67 Рік тому +59

    I miss Company Rivalries like Marvel vs DC because it’s shows both products are good that they develop cult fanbases, now it’s just all repetitive garbage

    • @Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel
      @Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel Рік тому +1

      I'm not a comic fan whatsoever, but haven't comics kinda always been repetitive? I didn't know that was a new thing lmao

    • @SuperSteve152
      @SuperSteve152 Рік тому

      ​@@Oldass_Deadass_dumbass_channel wash your mouth out with soap. Comics used to be a cornerstone of pop culture.

    • @leonconnelly5303
      @leonconnelly5303 Рік тому

      Comic fans like both lol, it's only people who only the watch the movies that argue about that cause writers and illustrators write for both all the time.

  • @klaykid117
    @klaykid117 Рік тому +3

    About the part where you say Sony fanboys holding Xbox accountable for missteps and vice versa, that is partially true. But on Twitter it does come off more like they're laughing at it and as well Sony fanboys aren't going to write angry emails to Xbox PR people because they think it's fundamentally funny. Whereas with an ordinary consumer backlash like if EA or Activision tried some bullshit, it's more like a online riot has started

  • @potatodadave
    @potatodadave Рік тому +13

    It's hilarious to me how Nintendo is the Saitama of gaming companies, no one pits Nintendo against another company because it's boring to watch the same outcome over and over again.

    • @drg19841
      @drg19841 Рік тому +5

      You clearly don't remember the GameCube or Wii U eras. Especially during the Wii U era Nintendo was in danger of going bankrupt.

    • @potatodadave
      @potatodadave Рік тому +3

      @@drg19841 you are right, I was just using the consoles and never really started using social media aside of funny animal youtube videos

    • @RaginDragn24
      @RaginDragn24 Рік тому +1

      I dont think nintendo is above xbox or playstation at all. All 3 have plenty of issues

    • @methos4866
      @methos4866 Рік тому

      Nintendo has plenty of issues. Things like the stick drift in the Joycons which they have refused to fix which i think is by design at this point because they are making bank off of selling new ones. Or the fact that the system just doesn't have good enough performance anymore. I've seen a lot of games that struggle to even hit a stable framerate at 30fps and resolutions drop even harder. But man BotW and TotK are great games.

  • @maxy073
    @maxy073 Рік тому +4

    Sometimes, I feel ashamed for being a part of the gaming community. Just bec I bought X instead of Y, and somehow that’s a personal attack on them. Most of them, just compare pointless numbers to each others…

  • @superromangaming
    @superromangaming 7 місяців тому +2

    I am not a fan of console wars. I get socially harassed for owning an Xbox and for no reason, seriously I don't say anything bad at all about PlayStation or Nintendo(love Nintendo btw) and yet everyone laughs at me. :( Little do they know Xbox One/Series is the best place for almost every Sonic game.

  • @mattmilliken1510
    @mattmilliken1510 Рік тому +2

    I am not a console warrior, i own a pc, a ps5 and a switch. Literally every platform is worth owning for one reason or another. Except xbox. Xbox is just trash, sorry not sorry.

  • @zechariahkelly9763
    @zechariahkelly9763 7 місяців тому +2

    For one, the console wars are kinda petty at times, but it keeps the companies from doing whatever they want

  • @tacosunbirth
    @tacosunbirth Рік тому +6

    It's always weird to me that Nintendo, one of the frontrunners of gaming, is often excluded from the modern console wars debate. I suppose people figure Nintendo caters to a seperate market than Playstation or Xbox?

    • @TZMHBT
      @TZMHBT Рік тому +3

      That and Nintendo stopped caring about making a powerful home console after the GameCube. Once they struck gold with the Wii they opted for an unique experience that ties everything together.

    • @anthonyhovens7488
      @anthonyhovens7488 Рік тому +5

      Honestly, thats exactly why i love Nintendo consoles. Its not about performance, its about being unique and taking risks. When you look at something like the switch, sure its performance is crap compared to a PS5 or Xbox *whatever nonsensical name they chose* but it offers something neither of the competition do. Seamless change between on the go and on the couch on one system. That mentality is also reflected in their games. They don't aim for top of the line, they aim for unique experiences.
      Just saying bad performance doesnt take away from that. To use the same car analogy in the video, its like trying to compare a sports car to a motorbike. They have different usecases and different forms of enjoyment.

  • @ItsJustMe0585
    @ItsJustMe0585 Рік тому +2

    I don't understand the console wars... clearly PlayStation is superior.... Kidding... PC Master Race for life!

  • @raptorskilltor4554
    @raptorskilltor4554 Рік тому +12

    When gaming companies pit fan bases together for maximum profits and gains

  • @MrOmegabrian
    @MrOmegabrian Рік тому +6

    The kid who lived across the street from me always puffed his chest out about how much better his Intellivision was than my 2600. 😅

  • @pentacosttb2565
    @pentacosttb2565 Рік тому +1

    The console performance comparison to PC is irrelevant, because there is no single PC, and the most powerful gaming rigs have components that cost more rhan a whole console. Meanwhile there is a point in comparing value for money, because that's actually relevant and a big reason for console generations.
    Once PC's become equal or better value for money, then it's worthwhile for a new console to be made.
    Conversely, this benefits PC because it moves the minimum specs devs target in game development up.
    PC gaming and console gaming are really two seperate but complimentary markets. The blurring of that separation is by Xbox in particular and Playstation more recently will create and seems to already have started causing problems for both markets.
    Similarly, the mobile market is completely different and irrelevant to all other gaming. Different audiences, different priorities, different monetisation methods, different distribution methods, different development goals. It's like trying to compare roadside billboard adverts to classical oil paintings. Sure, they're technically both art, but they have nothing actually in common

  • @CurtTheHero
    @CurtTheHero Рік тому +12

    It is kinda fun to watch ppl argue about something so insignificant

  • @pauljewett8844
    @pauljewett8844 Рік тому +1

    This guy is definitely from northern Ohio the way he kept posting browns fans and OSU v Michigan debates (I assume this, because this is my first and only video I’ve seen from this channel)

  • @heinzie5
    @heinzie5 Рік тому +10

    This is the only channel i follow now that has current gaming stuff. I mostly play cities skylines and project zomboid on a PC i built in 2012 and I last switched my PS3 on about 4 years ago to play Final Fantasy 7. Sounds like it all degenerated.

    • @colemantrebor1610
      @colemantrebor1610 Рік тому

      I’d say it hasn’t changed at all

    • @Spoonishpls
      @Spoonishpls Рік тому

      Great taste. You ever watch AmbiguousAmphibian? He plays those a lot and is hilarious

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough Рік тому +1

    About there are more important points to discus... Hate to break it to you but people only care if they care... Example no one cares about the sryian civil war but care about the ukriane war despite in have less factions in it just two while the sryian civil war was and is a mess and has seen many more war crimes. Another exemple modern slavery how many people you know honestly think slavery died with the CSA? Another exemple we are in a little ice age aka the sun has decreased in activity and gotten dimmer over the last few years I've only seen an acticale on it but have seen it with my own eyes. And my favoite exemple is you can know what magic is and how the universe came to be and connect all the relegions together like world history does... But no one in this universe cares but me and that makes me very sad... But anyway great video and great points I too think the console war is a good thing because comption is a good thing and like you hinted at companies love feedback as it's how they can learn to do better.

  • @Godzilla00X
    @Godzilla00X Рік тому +3

    And here I am struggling to beat the gameboy Zelda games

  • @DOCTORKHANblog
    @DOCTORKHANblog Рік тому +2

    You lost me when you said "late stage capitalism".

  • @mackinblack
    @mackinblack Рік тому +8

    Competition breeds creativity and innovation.

  • @aidensnow5017
    @aidensnow5017 Рік тому +1

    I'm a PC player, love high end graphics, my rig blows the series X out of the water... But if I'm going to be honest out of the 3 console's I gotta give my love to Nintendo...
    Yes the Switch is old, yes its under powered, but it has a MASSIVE library of games that are just flat out FUN. And it's kinda sad that the series X and PS5 are damn near 5x more powerful then the switch, yet the Switch is the only one of the 3 that consistently has their games launch In WORKING CONDITION!!!! The ONLY exception to that being the newest Pokemon game(s). 99.9999% of the time Nintendo's games are fun and bug free, we sadly cant say the same for Microsoft or Sony anymore.
    I'm sorry bruh but I'm getting utterly disgusted with gaming lately... IDGAFF about life like graphics anymore, I just want my fvcking games to work and be more entertaining then a glorified walking sim. IDGAFF if Mario or Link are in 720P, at least I know I'm in for a good time and any bugs I find are going to be extremely few and far between.
    Say what you want about Nintendo, their evil practices, or the lack of power the Switch has... I think its safe to say every Microsoft and Sony fan wish's their company had half the standards in quality control for games that Nintendo has had this entire time.

  • @baneblade__
    @baneblade__ Рік тому +1

    I miss the old console war because the companies got involved in the fun themselves
    These days the companies are civil and focus on themselves and the only people doing the console war shit are losers on the internet like JayTechTV

  • @Michal_Bauer
    @Michal_Bauer Рік тому +1

    As much as I agree with the closing statement, I don't have another option than don't like Sony and Nintendo. They are creating artificial scarcity nod launching their games on PC, especially nowadays when architecture is almost the same. I'm PC Gamer and I also never understood PC Master Race part of this "gaming war" for me I'm on PC beacuse I don't have enough money to spend for console and good TV it so much more expensive than building gaming PC instead of building PC just for work.

  • @Wicked_Knight
    @Wicked_Knight Рік тому +1

    The thing I dislike about this war is when someone from one console group goes out of their way to talk in a group for the other console and constantly reply to every post, saying the experience is better on their preferred console. It just strengthens a person dislike for that other console. That and the people who say "oh you're a x/p fanboy", I own all 3 major gaming consoles and a PC. Verity is nice to have.
    Personally, I just love games, I don't really care which box I'm playing on as long as the game is good.
    People don't realize that they really shouldn't want their console to be the #1 console because a platform with no competition is a monopoly, and the Antitrust Act forbids such practices.

  • @drpavel_
    @drpavel_ 8 місяців тому +1

    It's half the fun of it. I've probably had more fun shitposting and arguing about consoles and video game drama than actually playing them.

  • @Tguin
    @Tguin 10 місяців тому +1

    I absolutely love console wars. I see it as they wouldn't be publishing great games if it wouldn't be a challenge to have customers buying their products.

  • @jimmyalpert5233
    @jimmyalpert5233 Рік тому +1

    The console wars made it so that exclusives on the console had to be better then one another’s. We’re kind of in a drought right now. Everything’s cross platform and most of the exclusives/single player games as of recent have been lack luster. Not sure what to say anymore

  • @admiralrimmer
    @admiralrimmer Рік тому +2

    14:00 Kirk vs Picard is a pointless exercise after Patrick Stewart destroyed the character of Picard in his own series. Also Sisko is best captain.

  • @henryfleischer404
    @henryfleischer404 Рік тому +1

    At the "OSU is doing great this year" I thought the guy was talking about the game OSU. And that they just assumed everyone cared about it, even people at a random bar.

  • @bonafikam
    @bonafikam Рік тому +2

    I love War Profiteering.

  • @Siaman668
    @Siaman668 Рік тому +1

    Honestly consoles are just easier for me. I’m lazy and just want a game box. I have a pc which exists Just for tf2 and csgo now

  • @deadman7009
    @deadman7009 Рік тому +1

    Console wars are childish if your arguing over which console is better after the age of 15 then you'll be constant state of being a child well in to your 20-30s

  • @soundrogue4472
    @soundrogue4472 Рік тому +1

    5:31 I mean it's like arguing who's stronger between Goku and Superman then someone comes in and says "God" I mean sure true but that's not the subject at hand.

  • @Bolt451
    @Bolt451 Рік тому +1

    The great console war ended with the treaty of 2021 between xbox and playstation with nintendo having declared neutrality after the failure of the sega dreamcast

  • @dainess2919
    @dainess2919 Рік тому +1

    The sports as business thing is a mostly USA phenomena, in many places teams are clubs, non-profit associations (well at least in theory)

  • @andycopeland7051
    @andycopeland7051 Рік тому +1

    The winner of the console war has been since before there were even modern consoles: PC.
    The only other thing worth buying is a Nintendo though it's not for everyone. PC is the only thing you need

  • @diltberg9627
    @diltberg9627 Рік тому +1

    Hilarious the PC is not better than console when considering if you spend 500 on a gaming PC it doesn't compare to modern consoles so your wrong

  • @GTXDash
    @GTXDash Рік тому +1

    I don't have a horse in this race. The last console I owned that I actually liked was a GameCube (still have it and it still works). I'm now only on PC because back in the day consoles were better than PCs but at some point in the late 2000s, when I needed a PC more than just for gaming, it simply didn't make sense to own an XBox or PS3, mostly because they were actually pretty unreliable with overheating being a major issue for both machines.
    I even borrowed my firend's 360 and I had it for less than a week, and I experienced the dreaded red ring of death. Thank goodness she understood that it was a common problem and she just sent it in to get repaired. But after that I was all like "No. At least I can control airflow and cooling efficiency in a custom made PC". And other than a very cheap 2nd hand Wii I got just so that I could play Super Smash Bros Brawl, I couldn't think of a single reason why I should buy a console and also buy a new PC that I have to have anyways for work, games, hobbies, etc, instead of just buying a PC on it's own.

  • @pisacenere
    @pisacenere Рік тому +1

    Is a ruse to sell more consoles, was healthy for the advancement of the media in the 80s/90s, but now is all staged even the consoles are basically the same thing

  • @jankwartel1860
    @jankwartel1860 Рік тому +1

    This WILL expose my age (I'm old and grey) but l think this started with Amiga vs Atari 😊

  • @NinjaRodent
    @NinjaRodent Рік тому +5

    It's hard to care about the console wars when I mostly just play indie games and fromsoft games on PC. It's also hard to care when most "exclusives" end up coming to PC eventually.

  • @jacobashe6902
    @jacobashe6902 11 місяців тому +1

    6:18 yeah they but they’re not at the point where they are corporations because sport teams are privately owned so you can’t really compare the two. No offense

  • @CBFan5000
    @CBFan5000 Рік тому +1

    Nintendo fans are like the awkward third participant that is technically in the war but they've been doing their own thing since the Wii so nobody really includes them in the usual debates.

  • @h1n1viruz
    @h1n1viruz Рік тому +1

    bby you need to make more videos...

  • @sapaF2P
    @sapaF2P Рік тому +1

    actually playstations better because my ps2 is the only console i have hooked up and it has all my tony hawk games :)

  • @waterprincess6444
    @waterprincess6444 Рік тому +1

    The boxes will die soon, have you ever seen a sci-fi futuristic movie and seen them pop in a discs to play. 😂

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Рік тому +1

    *My latest gaming console is a Wii U.*
    *It is the best gaming console, and you cannot convince me otherwise.*

  • @valletas
    @valletas Рік тому +1

    My favorite moment in the recent console wars was when sony released god of war of pc and people literally posted videos crying begging sony to not do that lol

  • @Dzztzt
    @Dzztzt Рік тому +1

    The only console war we should focus on are the people who play video games vs those that don't and those that don't are pretty weird

  • @kitsunetengoku1467
    @kitsunetengoku1467 Рік тому +2

    i started with ps3, then just stuck with pc in the end. we mostly complain on shitty ports lol

  • @admrsh
    @admrsh Рік тому +1

    Honestly it would be really funny if Xbox and PS fans team up to fight PC fans

  • @YeahRightMCD
    @YeahRightMCD Рік тому +1

    Xbox One and the violent murder of Master Cheif kinda put the nail in the coffin.

  • @phillipblanc4846
    @phillipblanc4846 Рік тому +1

    The console wars are not meant to be won. They are meant to be continuous- George Orwell

  • @afterdinnercreations936
    @afterdinnercreations936 9 місяців тому +1

    Then there's me, in my bunker with my laptop and Switch.