Wayne D observed this (compression into the ground to start downswing) as a hallmark of the great ball strikers over many eras) but you nailed this and had some great drills to cement it in for this student. When I have hit it my best over the years this is exactly what I felt regardless of the methodologies I was trying to employ at the time. It is subtle and amounts to the amount of raise you get when you inhale deeply into your chest but when I did this my torso could compress down much better to P5 vs just getting compressed going back and then extending too early. Then the hips are deep and you can just extend hard through the shot. So it is the _TIMING_ of when this happens and why which you captured brilliantly.
I've come back to the game after 8+ years and I'm having a lot of the same issues. I think not being as strong as I used to be magnifies where the faults are too.
As somebody that has this same problem I must say this video was fantastic. I had to watch it a few times for it all to sink in. Great video, this got you a subscription. Looking forward to watching more. Thank you.
second time watching this vid & 7:23 is absolutely amazing. thats a really short club, strong ground contact but no divot/digging. i can just imagine the spin that would make into a tight pin.
I have watched some of your videos, and even though I haven’t tried this yet, it seems to be a very good explanation of what many golfers including myself are dealing with. Especially those of us that used to play better golf!
Absolut brilliant! Marcus is a Genius! It´s interesting, that Simon knew his bad habit, but coundn´t fix it on his own. I have the same issue, next year, when i´m, retired i will definetely come for a lesson (from Germany). ´til then I have to try the fixes he´s been shown on my own🤨!
Finally broke down and purchased your system! I work with athletes and also special needs students in Physical Education....I understand and utilize "functional movement patterns", as I have a background in fitness and coaching. You should check out Gray Cook at FMS (Functional Movement Systems). They talk like you do! Lol! Your methods are the real deal.....I should have done this earlier in my golf journey, but like so many.....chase the shiny objects and forget how special WE are....rather than emulating someone we are not! Thank you Marcus!
Simon's story and mine are virtually identical. I was off 3 aged 16 and stopped playing aged 39 when I was off 5. Wind forward 20 years when I retired and took up golf again. I struggled to break 100! I've worked at the game, loads of lessons with different coaches. I've got down to 12 now but it's hard being consistent. I can break 80 next round shoot 90 plus.
Whilst as we get older we may find areas which are not as strong as they once were but as you've discovered, Alan, you can become stronger in other areas which could mean that getting older can just be a mindset constraint, not necessarily a physical!
Very good Marcus. This is the exact problem I’m having as I’ve gotten a lot older. Haven’t been able to figure out what I guess I used to do naturally when I was younger, I’m guessing….
Hello. Where can I buy that board from? Is it just a balance board available from a sports fitness shop or is it a specific board designed for golf training? Thanks in advance good video really enjoyed it and want to try it.
I started watching Zen videos this passed week. I haven't tried hitting balls yet with these ideas, but I have swung my driver and a practice club for about 30 minutes.. My driver feels like it weighs about 200 kilos at the top before I start my downswing using the long delay caused by the club shaft moving closer to my shoulder at the top of the swing as I shift my pressure over to the forward leg. Is this a common experience, or am I probably doing something wrong?
Tricky question to answer! The main thing to take away if we were to make generalisations is the concept of self-exploration in this style of coaching. So ultimately, once you start playing shots, the results will tell you if you're doing something worth exploring further or not! Nothing is really right or wrong in this context, it's just movement!
the $$ for this lesson are about to come from the pockets of his fellow club members 😂 what a fantastic video guys, ive also completely lost my rhythm and timing so i can't wait to give this this a go at the range 😀
That's a hell of a lot of swing thoughts. I'm far too stupid to follow all that. Was similarly off 1 nearly 50 years ago; didn't play for over 30 years, came back 10 months ago off 26, now down to 12 and aiming for single figures soon, but I'm just hitting shots and trying to feel good contacts rather than build a series of swing thoughts and possibilities.
It's a doing thing not a thinking thing. I'm just explaining the reason for the exercise. All you have to do is explore using the exercise without thinking technically. Just explore hitting balls and discovering how you can best apply the feelings you generate to hit your best shots. The idea isn't to think of all that info whilst hitting. Learning how to learn is an important thing.
Doesn't matter, it's not always on the instructor delivering the information but also how it's interpreted and a lot of us have had plenty of conventional instruction to great success.
Bit more to it than that imo. His intention behind his swing was creating noise and confusion. By his own admission he didn't really have an understanding of his own swing or any direction to improve.
No of course not but not struggling to get around the course by hitting it so wayward and struggling to break 90. He obviously had real ability and understands the game but had got too technical trying to get his game back.
@@GRFGolf been there. It's a simple game but very complicated. I've battled being too technical minded to learn but I do better when I'm more simplified. It's knowing how your body works and how your body is meant to work in the swing and making adjustments. It angers me at times. Never master it, ever
@@GRFGolf I've come to terms with it. Incidentally, as you replied to my comment, I was on the golf course and I was striping it. Only 200 yards carry as I don't full swing ever, I feel its better to hit fairways. Plus my technique breaks down and my body goes too fast for my arms ha. Was -1 after 5 which was ridiculous for me. Soon sorted itself though as I finished +10 haha. Still happy with that though. Nearly breaking 80, next summer I'm hoping that's my season.
Just hearing the strike and the ball peeling through the air toward the end of the lesson was evidence enough for me.
Not many sounds much sweeter! 😍
Marcus the Magician. Delighted for that man - monthly medal on the way!
Finally an internet based instructor who knows what he is talking about. Bravo!!!
Wayne D observed this (compression into the ground to start downswing) as a hallmark of the great ball strikers over many eras) but you nailed this and had some great drills to cement it in for this student. When I have hit it my best over the years this is exactly what I felt regardless of the methodologies I was trying to employ at the time. It is subtle and amounts to the amount of raise you get when you inhale deeply into your chest but when I did this my torso could compress down much better to P5 vs just getting compressed going back and then extending too early. Then the hips are deep and you can just extend hard through the shot. So it is the _TIMING_ of when this happens and why which you captured brilliantly.
You've just made that mans day, week, year..life even better! Wonderful 👏
Probably the best zen video ever done. Thanks Marcus
Means a lot, thanks for taking the time to comment!
I've come back to the game after 8+ years and I'm having a lot of the same issues. I think not being as strong as I used to be magnifies where the faults are too.
As somebody that has this same problem I must say this video was fantastic. I had to watch it a few times for it all to sink in. Great video, this got you a subscription. Looking forward to watching more. Thank you.
second time watching this vid & 7:23 is absolutely amazing. thats a really short club, strong ground contact but no divot/digging. i can just imagine the spin that would make into a tight pin.
I have watched some of your videos, and even though I haven’t tried this yet, it seems to be a very good explanation of what many golfers including myself are dealing with. Especially those of us that used to play better golf!
Let us know if you end up trying a few things out, Ron! Welcome to the channel and thanks for sharing your thoughts
Absolut brilliant! Marcus is a Genius! It´s interesting, that Simon knew his bad habit, but coundn´t fix it on his own. I have the same issue, next year, when i´m, retired i will definetely come for a lesson (from Germany). ´til then I have to try the fixes he´s been shown on my own🤨!
We may or may not have an online coaching platform coming soon that may be able to help with your current commute until we get to see you! 😂👊
I wish I could fly to England to get instruction from this dude. I have the same problem with arm extension.
Marcus is this what most tour players do??? I notice when I do this I don’t early extend???? Great teaching!!!!
Although each player's loading pattern varies very uniquely, yes there are bio-mechanical principles that are common among elite level performers 👍
Simple and great lesson
Means so much to hit these good shots. Beautiful mate.
One of the best things in the world
pop and drop.... down and up.... simple
Thanks a lot Marcus
That's it, Kennion, drop and pop!
@@GRFGolf I knew what I meant... drop and pop... just got excited typing
😂😂 I got you, happens to me too
Finally broke down and purchased your system! I work with athletes and also special needs students in Physical Education....I understand and utilize "functional movement patterns", as I have a background in fitness and coaching. You should check out Gray Cook at FMS (Functional Movement Systems). They talk like you do! Lol! Your methods are the real deal.....I should have done this earlier in my golf journey, but like so many.....chase the shiny objects and forget how special WE are....rather than emulating someone we are not! Thank you Marcus!
Thanks for your support. Gray Cook stuff is great 👍
This is exactly what I'm going through. Ty. Ty. Ty
Simon's story and mine are virtually identical. I was off 3 aged 16 and stopped playing aged 39 when I was off 5. Wind forward 20 years when I retired and took up golf again. I struggled to break 100! I've worked at the game, loads of lessons with different coaches. I've got down to 12 now but it's hard being consistent. I can break 80 next round shoot 90 plus.
Have some bad news. When you get older its much more difficult no matter what you do to improve.
@@nicholasdemetriades9154 absolutely right. I concentrate on my short game which saves me shots.
Whilst as we get older we may find areas which are not as strong as they once were but as you've discovered, Alan, you can become stronger in other areas which could mean that getting older can just be a mindset constraint, not necessarily a physical!
Oh god, this is me too... It's extremely frustrating.
Hear the strike and hear the ball leave hie club! Jedi Master Marcus has done it again!!!
All credit to the student, Sean 😂 he already bought a very adept skillset to the table I must say. We just helped elicit what he already had!
Very good Marcus. This is the exact problem I’m having as I’ve gotten a lot older. Haven’t been able to figure out what I guess I used to do naturally when I was younger, I’m guessing….
Keep at it, Ron. It's all a journey at the end of the day, we're just all at different chapters.
his ball sound towards the end was like nicklaus 🙂
Marcus you are exceptional wish i found you when i was a bit younger but never too late.☘☘
Never too late at all, agreed 👍
Hello. Where can I buy that board from? Is it just a balance board available from a sports fitness shop or is it a specific board designed for golf training? Thanks in advance good video really enjoyed it and want to try it.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it. You can purchase the GRFi system by following the link in the video description 👍
@@GRFGolf ahhh I see it now thank you!!
What a transformation! Simon, cat 1 is calling.
I reckon so, too!
The feeling of greatness
That indeed 😂
This lesson is brilliant!
Thank you
Superb effort fellas!
Thanks as always, Mr Kipling!
Insane! Results speak for themselves! You have folks from USA come to you guys for lessons? 🤔
Thanks Patrick, yes, from all over the world every week 👍
What a great ball striker Marcus👍
Absolutely 👍
I started watching Zen videos this passed week. I haven't tried hitting balls yet with these ideas, but I have swung my driver and a practice club for about 30 minutes.. My driver feels like it weighs about 200 kilos at the top before I start my downswing using the long delay caused by the club shaft moving closer to my shoulder at the top of the swing as I shift my pressure over to the forward leg. Is this a common experience, or am I probably doing something wrong?
Tricky question to answer! The main thing to take away if we were to make generalisations is the concept of self-exploration in this style of coaching.
So ultimately, once you start playing shots, the results will tell you if you're doing something worth exploring further or not! Nothing is really right or wrong in this context, it's just movement!
@@GRFGolf thank you for taking the time
the $$ for this lesson are about to come from the pockets of his fellow club members 😂
what a fantastic video guys, ive also completely lost my rhythm and timing so i can't wait to give this this a go at the range 😀
Haha give it a go and let us know how you get on, Kevin 👍 any questions drop a comment
Crazy how much sizzle that extension gives his shots
Was a joy to watch
Excellent 🏌
Is that Paul from a lesson a couple of years ago?
Very well remembered! It is indeed!
That's a hell of a lot of swing thoughts. I'm far too stupid to follow all that.
Was similarly off 1 nearly 50 years ago; didn't play for over 30 years, came back 10 months ago off 26, now down to 12 and aiming for single figures soon, but I'm just hitting shots and trying to feel good contacts rather than build a series of swing thoughts and possibilities.
It's a doing thing not a thinking thing. I'm just explaining the reason for the exercise. All you have to do is explore using the exercise without thinking technically. Just explore hitting balls and discovering how you can best apply the feelings you generate to hit your best shots. The idea isn't to think of all that info whilst hitting. Learning how to learn is an important thing.
Who were his other instructors is the question .
Doesn't matter, it's not always on the instructor delivering the information but also how it's interpreted and a lot of us have had plenty of conventional instruction to great success.
@@GRFGolf Nope. Malpractice is malpractice.
It's hard to get back into after a long lay off
Moves to s Pro swing in like 30 mins wow
Was a great session 👍
Unreal Marcus these positionsl coaches have nothing on you
😂 I'm just happy to help in anyway I can
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In other words, he lost confidence and became anxious in his swing. Hence the way early release and lift. No biggie, i see it all the time.
Bit more to it than that imo. His intention behind his swing was creating noise and confusion. By his own admission he didn't really have an understanding of his own swing or any direction to improve.
So he expected to return to golf after 20 years and be good at it again? Yeah 😂. Well on the right track now anyway.
No of course not but not struggling to get around the course by hitting it so wayward and struggling to break 90. He obviously had real ability and understands the game but had got too technical trying to get his game back.
@@GRFGolf been there. It's a simple game but very complicated. I've battled being too technical minded to learn but I do better when I'm more simplified. It's knowing how your body works and how your body is meant to work in the swing and making adjustments. It angers me at times. Never master it, ever
@@christopherhughes497 Don't get frustrated, just accept we never master this game
@@GRFGolf I've come to terms with it. Incidentally, as you replied to my comment, I was on the golf course and I was striping it. Only 200 yards carry as I don't full swing ever, I feel its better to hit fairways. Plus my technique breaks down and my body goes too fast for my arms ha. Was -1 after 5 which was ridiculous for me. Soon sorted itself though as I finished +10 haha. Still happy with that though. Nearly breaking 80, next summer I'm hoping that's my season.