Raider's Guide to Archeology For Quick Pre-BIS | Cataclysm Classic
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- I personally don't have that much against archeology. It's a nice way to wind down while still working towards an objective that is more than just gold or transmog. That being said, I don't want to spend more time doing it than I need to.
I've compiled a set of things to do while leveling archeology up to make sure you tackle the profession in the most efficient way possible.
All of the 359 epic items are also BOE, so chances are you'll pick up a few items for your alts to use when they ding level 85 along the way.
WOW Cataclysm Classic is coming soon, make sure you're up to date on all things you need to do on launch before it hits. - Ігри
Some small changes with pre-patch now live. So far the only difference is that you can only gain skill points from surveying until 50. Will keep you posted if I find any other differences, positive or negative.
Update: You no longer need to do any shenanigans with stopping at 375 to avoid pushing yourself into getting digsites in Uldum or Twilight Highlands. Just keep going straight to 450 and start solving.
First epic has been found, btw.
@@Riyaniwow So that confirms we can get the epics in pre-patch?
@@KaozIcy Yep, assuming they don't change it.
@@Riyaniwow Someone in my guild mentioned something about staying at 375 to discover stuff until going up to 450 to increase your chances of getting the pre raid epic? Have you heard about this and are you able to explain it better?
@@Riyaniwow By epic I assume you mean 359 epic and not one of the lower level ones right? Just want to clarify to be sure
Love the Cata videos! Keep em coming. Glad I found your channel. Hyped for beta-prepatch-release.
Thanks bud! Oh yeah, tons more to come, especially once we get the beta.
The speculation given for the chances of the rare crafts @ 3:40 is honestly absolutely wild.
Yeah he got called out for that big time in a video I watched.
My fault for tor further investigating. I leveled all the way to 525 now to realize the chances for the sword is less than 1%
big appreciate your cata content!
Thanks! Lots more to come :)
Nice video, although there are two points I'd like to add.
First of all, if youre going for 359 epics, those don't have a chance of appearing until 450 skill, so it's best to avoid solving troll & dwarf as much as possible until then.
Secondly (and this also helps with the former point) Outland is the #1 place to level archeology once you start getting digsites there.
Every continent has their own digsite pool and Outland is by far the smallest continent so the travel times are very short in comparison to EK and Kalimdor.
In addition there are only orc or draenei digsites in Outland which don't have any 359 epics, so you're not forced to spend fragments and therefore waste your chance on 359 epics.
Orc has a Agil helmet though
I loved arch in cata, I always found it surprisingly relaxing
I wouldn't go so far as to say that I love it, but I do indeed find it quite a nice and relaxing thing to do.
Ty for cata videos!
Also do we know if your ability to proc the rare projects is skill level locked AND character level lock or not? I.e if i go nuts in the prepatch can i get zin'd rokh in my bags at level 80?
Gracias por el video espero tener suerte en que me salga el bastón
Hey!
Now since we are getting archaeology in the prepatch, i assume we can level to 450. Does this mean we can already start digging towards the epic items?
I was also wondering about the 5 skill points for common and 15 for rares. Does this diminish at all or does it stay the same?
If it stays could we then save up the fragments in prepatch and instantly hit 525 once cata releases with like 15 solves?
Love every video so far by the way!
Seems that way, yes! Will be a pain doing archeology on a ground mount, but what has to be done has to be done!
It doesn’t diminish, so I assume you’ll be able to stack up 200 for each faction and just start crafting on release- I’m not sure if you can get epic 85 solves in prepatch, but it does only require 450, so who knows.
And thanks!
Are we going to compete for digsites or are these individual? If so, its good. If shared its literally impossible to get these.
@@frozenIRL They are individual
@@Riyaniwow Thats great to hear! Now im actually looking forward to these grinds.
So only at 450 can we craft the Night elf doll trinket. & we should do it with the scroll in its keystone place? Also which zones do I survey to get highborn scrolls?
If the cap is 200 in cata, surely the idea then would be to get 450 in the prepatch horde shards then solve like crazy before release hoping to hit your item?
im a little confused, should we stay in Eastern Kingdoms till 100 then mvoe to Kalimdor? Really appreciate your video and your response
You'll stay in Eastern Kingdom pretty much at all times. But if you get 200 troll/dwarf fragments before you reach 100, then you go to Kalimdor UNTIL you reach level 100. After level 100, you start crafting and head back to Eastern Kingdom and maybe Outland before 450, then exclusively Eastern Kingdom til you get your weapon.
you're the man
@@Riyaniwow I'd recommend northrend for the troll sword since troll dig sites are in northrend and you have flying, but I get the want for the dwarf staff
@@Riyaniwow You mentioned Zin'Rokh having a 7% chance, is that really true? If that's so then it seems like everyone would be able to get it in pre-patch.
Thanks for the vid. When doing your digs did you feel like one type of relic group spawned more than the others? Ive ran into progressively less and less dwarf dig sites and last night got almost exclusively troll for hours. Is this pure bad luck?
Partially luck, but once you clear out all rares from one particular "race" they spawn with 50% less frequency, meaning the other ones that are available in that region has a higher likelihood of spawning.
@@Riyaniwow ah I see. I must have a troll rare left then as it’s almost all that spawns. Thanks!
3:31 if 450 is the minimum required for epic gear to show up does that mean we'll be able to get the epics in the pre-patch considering that the cap before cata release is 450?
Technically, but I don't think they will be discoverable. That would be silly.
@@Riyaniwow I hope they will be. Imagine how nice it’d feel to have a Zin’Rokh sitting in your bank waiting for you to hit 85 so you can insta equip it
@@Pyrro5 Would be clutch as hell, for sure!
For anyone watching during the classic pre-patch, you will not get any leveling skills after 50 now, not 100 as was said in the video. So when you hit 50 and then no more leveling from frags comes, you'll know why :)
I have a ton of time now to level archeology, would itbe better to save my keystones for when Im trying to get epic level gear?
Only worth saving with the ones you want gear from. Even so, you can always buy more from the AH.
I have seen some videos where they have like 800 saved up, but It is only letting me save 200 fragments. Do I need to go buy an upgrade somewhere to hold more??
They added a 200 fragment cap later in the expansion, which is the version of the game we're playing on.
Nice video ! btw can i get the epics in prepatch at 450?
Technically, but I don't think it'll be in the pre-patch. I'd keep my eye out for it, though!
so if we want the staff we should wait to solve dwarf until were skill 450?
You can solve along the way, just make sure you have 200 by the time you hit 450
Turns out it's nowhere near 1% drop, way closer to being a 0.1%
With pre patch just dropped, I am getting 1 skill point per relic pick up until 50 (not 100)
Same
It's not true, that trolls only have one rare project. As far as I know, they have 3. I solved 196 troll artifacts so far and didn't get zin'rokh, but got the pet and the toy.
If the staff is BoA does that mean I can pass it around between all my casters even after it has be equiped just like an heirloom?
Yessir- enchanted and all.
@@Riyaniwow That makes it insanely valuable for me since I'm playing a bunch of dps casters.
Does the sword work this way too? Even if enchanted by a death knight at a runeforge??
is there away to reset digsites i have 2 in twilight highlands already :(
Unfortunately not-- there are only 3 digsites, so you won't have all 4 spawn there. If you're after troll digsites you can clear out Northrend as well.
But can you confirm that we are able to get the epic weapons if we have 450 skill DURING the prepatch, or that we have to wait until launch?
people said they found epics already
@@cyboinc3583 Yeah just heard as well! :D
@@cyboinc3583 thats crazy how tho
Just a thought, do you have to be level 85 to be able to get the 85 epic solves for the BoA epics?
As we get archaeology in the pre patch to cata maybe you could farm max fragments and lvl 450 on all if not just a few of your toons (that you dont want to level) and solve them once cata hits? Anyone know if this is possible?
That was my thought too, seeing as it'll be capped at 450. I have no idea frankly, but I would be surprised if they were in the loottable during pre-patch.
If not, yeah you could go 450, stack 200 fragments, solve on release. You could do it for multiple toons since it's BOA, but man, the sweat to do it on multiple toons without flying mounts.
@@Riyaniwow Giga sweat, my thought about this is, the more you do in pre patch, the less you have to do on the actual launch, it's not because you don't have anything to do at 85 anyway, this would be the lowest prior for me at 85. I'm playing Ele / resto for cata for my 10 man guild and gonna have a warrior as an alt so I kinda need all the starting advantage i can get.
+ I don't think it's that rough to do this without mount in azeroth, its just till you can do outland it's an issue.. And for the fragment stacking ofc
I remember in cata i saved all of my troll fragments for 450 to try and get zinrokh
im not sure how many it was exactly. but it was A LOT and i didn't get the sword. i dont think it will be worth trying to farm these based off my experience back then, unless they have a higher droprate from the solve
sadge
Cap is 200 now adays, so no stacking like crazy. Going for the sword is obviously not worth it, but if you're a degenerate you have to try :D
@@Riyaniwow Where is this coming from? Is there a blue post or something from blizz verifying this?
How about the orc headress? Is it not available?
Yeah it is
Nice straight forward vid mate - subbed
Thanks, friend ☺️
I have a faint memory of having alot more than 200 fragments, are you sure 200 is the cap?
They added the cap a bit later, and I'm assuming we'll get the last patch version of the game.
i know you said to never craft without a keystone. but honestly i am not getting very many keystones at all in prepatch :/
Yeeeaah, definitely getting less than I was expecting. Buying them when around 100-200g, but seems best to just power through and craft without.
@@Riyaniwow also my digsites in eastern kingdoms are now stuck in twilight highlands which you can't even enter :( this is a disaster lol
Zinrokh has less than 2% drop rate in all versions of wow for arch also you need the minimal archeology addon. Painful to watch anyone arch without it
Weren't these rewards BoA? Or was that only in MoP?
Yep they are BoA
Do we know if we can get the BOA's during prepatch?
Yes we can
@@Riyaniwow Has there been any proofs of it yet? i've got the raptor, but i've yet to see the weapons
@@MarkHaakansson Plenty of screenshots, got a 359 shield myself
Can you get the epic items during prepatch if you hit 450?
Yep, got both sword and shield
@@Riyaniwow Sick. I just wish there was a healer weapon for pallys. Sadly no 1hander. Def gonna try and snag the sword though.
@@jesselin1665 Trinket is big for healers, though!
There is not a single agi epic 359 piece?
There’s a mail Agil helmet from orcs
No 359 agi item, no. You’re free.
Good video! Small critique, your microphone is too close to your mouth or the bass is too high. Very deep echoey audio.
Thanks for the feedback! Still trying to figure out how best to record and mix; learning process for sure :)
@@Riyaniwowno worries dude, keep it up.
So if I want the sword don't solve trolls till 450?
I would still solve, because getting the other rares will make it easier to get the sword, just make sure you’re at 200 fragments by the time you get to 450 with plenty of tablets to spare.
@Riyaniwow ok cool thanks man.
how do I get to 100 without wasting fragments? Im stuck at 50 :s and not getting mroe points from surveying
They are using the end of expac version so it capped at 50 for digging
Looks like 50 is the cap, thats where I stopped as well, unless it is bugged (which at this point, I wouldnt be surprised by)
started leveling archaeology today!
why "never ever craft without using a keystone if available"?
Wouldn't it be better to save all your keystones till your skill is high enough level to unlock the thing you want and use them then?
Just an efficiency thing-- expected us to get more keystones. But you can always buy more if you don't have any as you want to pursue higher level stuff.
I hate RNG stuff.. Im always unlucky as fuck with that shit
I’m always extremely lucky or extremely unlucky, haha. First try or not at all.
@@Riyaniwow been grinding for 12 hours every day since release and i am slowly losing my damn mind
@@cyboinc3583 Same, but won over insanity today and acquired the sword!
@@Riyaniwow nah i still dont have it.. at over 500 troll solves and leveled 2 alts as well for the early solves trick.. RNG Gods just fucking hate me
I only like archeology because of the preraid bis but I also hate it because of that lol
The chance to get epic items seems down in the .1% from the info that seems be be going around. Sad how RNG this turns into and time consuming
That's a great weapon but meh the time we will craft it would have been already obsolete lol
Thank the Earthenmother that I dont need to farm it as a Bear.
ishnu alah
your info is wrong for the skill up from picking stuff up it stops at 50 and picking up the stuff gives no exp after 50
Hey the devs are open to changes so perhaps this is a subject to change...at least a bit to nerf the RNGness of this whole shit :D
Would be kinda nice, but I seriously doubt that, haha.
Fast and easy ya reckon
You forgot to mention that alchemist can also get a mount that is actually 2 person right? Or can just be sold for a lot lol
Video is more focused on the gear as that's what we care about when it comes to progressing our characters, but yeah, the recipe is from archeology if you're alchemy. Mount itself is BOE and can be sold on the AH.
There is a ZERO chance that the % chance of getting the sword if 7%. Absolutely not.
People need to get over it and just raid with a damn heroic weapon
138 crafts for troll so far,Really annoying
You only get a level 1-50. Not 1-100.
Was changed for classic, but yes, only skills until 50 ☺️
"fast" Hahaha!
I used a bot to do this and got banned, best day of my life. Finally free, knowing my paladin was gone forever after
1.5 year of /played.
Congratulations on your escape!
First lol.
This is the first time i've ever been sat here when a video has dropped! Good effort mate, looking forward to Cata!
@@MitchellHenderson-ue2kf Damn that's fast-- You made it here before me. Thanks bud!
Can somebody explain to me why there are so many people that emphazise on BiS hunting, even though rarely anyone plays their class right? And if youre good and have decent gear, youre gonna be more than fine. I know youtubers need their content but the amount of people I see in Wrath that have good gear and stop DPSing if they have to do the slightest movement is really high.
I think it’s because people like to play the game and have good gear. Not complicated
@@johnnykliewer1744 But if you need good gear to enjoy the game you are a loser, so it makes it a bit more complicated i am looking forward to your thoughtful response
@@MoonTurky And how is it that enjoying having good gear make you a loser again?
@MoonTurky The whole point of MMO *RPG* is progression of gear;
If you can get the best gear the first day you will quit the first day. The whole point of the game is pretty much gearing and than added side stuff, there is no one strictly a blacksmith in wow. Again that is the point of the game.
Geez are you new or something?
Because better gear improves players on every level of skill and for people that are looking for guilds it shows that you put in effort to get yourself as ready as possible.
Archeology wasn’t good for gear in cata live and it won’t be good in cata classic, what is he even talking about…
For pre-bis, absolutely it is.
@@Riyaniwow Most of the items in the drop list are vendor trash or collectibles. The good gear is extremely low drop chance, so low that back in live people often discussed the search for it being an opportunity cost.
What you can get and what you will get are not the same thing. You can get very close to equivalent gear from dungeon spamming, and you are more likely to get it that way. And even if you do get the sword or something… ok so you have 4% higher dps than you would have for 2 weeks… congrats
Enjoy it if you want, but literally a decade of private servers suggest that archaeology (as it was) is not the way to gear up
I heard that in cata live a healer friend never got their *true bis* trinket. In general idk if it's worth it unless healer but there are definitely some good pieces there
@@Counterstlo so he was right ;) if people wanna invest rng into having "PRE RAID BIS" as the video states then let them do it. go back to ur private servers and circle jerk
So hunters dont care about archeology lol
Not for pre-bis raiding at least
250 dwarf crafts and I haven't seen the staff. yeah it give up this garbage is rigged
video is complete hot garbage 3:45 there is 3 rare troll projects not just the sword and its not a 7% its more like a 1%.
Please choose between a low pitch voice and high pitch voice. This is super weird