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For tanks, asap get exalted with Tol Barad faction. The trinket is BiS till firelands and situational after. Its the only thing that lasts for the entire expansion for tanks.
Scotte, man! Above and beyond with the spreadsheet, dude! I main a DPS warrior and I'm hardcore stuck into mining and blacksmithing, but that is still going to save me so much time trying to work out what to do first. Thanks a ton!
I didn’t think I would be, but I actually am so excited for Cata. I actually forgot how many good memories I had in Cata. Some of the best times actually in wow we’re in Cata.
Also, the Archaeology epics are super rare to proc onto, do not waste your time going for these unless you've fully done everything else for the day/week.
This is how a fresh endgame should be. I think this xpac has the PERFECT faction setup. You can earn meaningful progression with good rewards while leving, and no super obnoxious daily quest grinds. It gives each zone importance thus making all of them relevant, and decent gold earning potential that isn't just mindless "stand here in this small area, fighting other players for tags and kill the same mobs over and over" or play the auction house game.
I loved cataclysm, if you wanted to just do pve, all you had to do was pve, no doing quest lines, no fucking about with irrelevent side shit like exploring or anything. If i wanted to get more gear in pve, it required me to do pve. It's just kinda of like DUH
Great video - always makes my day 🥰. Question: are you saving the Stonekeeper Shards, turning them into Commendations and keeping them or capping honor? Cheers 🥳
Gear pvp in cata is pretty much get your honor gear and then move on to the conquest gear. You can get Gear from questing/dungeons/raiding/professions. But it'll mostly be Honor gear -> Conquest gear
Because the majority of the wow player base is like 30+ year olds who have kids/full time work/partners etc etc we aint 17 year old's with literally near zero responsibility.
I wouldn't say fast as possible.. but more like using our time wisely on what we need to achieve in game. There's no rushing with faction rep, it just takes time and it's useful to know which faction to get for your current class/spec. Would be rough to get exalted on a faction you don't get any epics with on your first run through. But that's just imo. Play as you wish (; no one pays for your sub, only you do [:
If you level slow you're behind. Trying to gear a month into the exp is a disaster. All the noobs are running dungeons. You won't be getting into a raid etc. Thr game has a clock.
Hope someone can help me out here. I've read from several sources that you only need 450 archeology to get such things as Zin'rokh. Does that mean I could basically start farming for it at level 80 once the prepatch drops?
What about if we are going into cata with capped justice points and a stack of tradable honor tokens? I'm assuming we won't be picking up some of these items in that case
Silly question, I've changed my stone keeper shards into commendations, should i hold on to those and then use them in the prepatch? Or just them until honor cap and bank the rest? not sure if the commendation honor changes scale differently to the flat hoor -> honor point changes
keep the commendations until 85 once you start spending your JP cap, then convert honor into JP if you want the PvE gear or spend the honor on PvP gear then use the commendations to keep topping your honor up to either convert or use as straight honor
Thanks a lot for the great content! Is the idea that the spreadsheet will be customizable to each individual players professions etc? Like for instance if it was a dynamic sheet that could factor in your desired professions (including whether somebody would want to do any archeology) and then output the most optimal path of rep grind based on what items will be obtainable for your choices?
But the game is releasing like its the last patch, wouldnt that mean the orbs are probably going to be not bound? might just start as a tradeable function.
When cata first launches, anything with hit will be BiS for casters until they get hit cap. So that Wild Hammer 346 ring having almost a full 1% hit will def be something they chasing.
Transmuting truegold. So if you have any alt without alchemy, level it before pre patch, because they will change quest for Master Trasmuter or whatever it called. Making cards with inscription may be very profitable and inscription is cheap to level right now.
Since you the talked about crafted items as much as the rep farm Darkmoon cards are going to be insane Like legit insane... Better have an alt that can craft cuz it's gonna be the sought after items for both healers and caster DPS
Tbh there is no reason to choose Vashj'ir over Hyjal. You only get a tiny amount of earthen ring rep from Vashjir, versus tonnes of Guardians rep + the Hyjal chain is required for unlocking the Molten Front dailies in the Firelands patch.
Good guide BUT lets not pretend anyone will actually get the archaeology weapons from Tolvir, they are exceptionally rare, FAR more rare than the mount or the 2hander from Trolls etc. I had over 1500 Tolvir solves and never saw any of the Tolvir epic weapons on retail. And it's stories of people needing near 10 000 solves to get them, and the mount is about 100 solves on average and even that takes a long time.
So much overthinking. Since we currently have a Cata speed run on the Whitemane private server, there is a much easier way to go around gearing. If you are lvl 80 start hitting dem battlegrounds for the 352 ilvl pvp gear. This will probably be more important for dps specs since good luck getting into dungeon queues. Boomkins, shadow priests and ele shamans have an easy time getting the hit % up since they can convert spirit into hit through talents and the ele shaman 4 piece pvp ability gives charges to lightning shield that give your earth shock a boost once you reach 9 stacks. Healers can also go on this route since healing dungeons is rough at the start without gear. Doing arenas or converting some valor into conquest would also be helpfull since you cannot guarantee getting head/shoulders until ZA/ZG and the hour of twilight patch at the end. TL;DR: Farm honor points for 352 ilvl gear, pick up some tabbards, then switch to normal/heroics for justice and valor farm. Add some conquest points if head & shoulders are lacking behind.
I do love private server brain of being a solo player, literally no one who wants to raid seriously would do any of this and as for converting conquest to valor, you still have a cap so whats the point. While your wasting time doing battlegrounds to get 352 gear that you will replace in your first heroic, i'll already be exalted with a rep lol. And yes i've played on ridiculous amounts of private servers and the gear pathing is NEVER the same as classic. I mean you do you though if you want to waste time doing BG's for gear you are going to replace, you are literally just adding an extra step to what i have already broken down for no reason what so ever. Ding 85, create a walk group and do heroics, simple as that.
@@Scottejaye Aha, and you will magically get the 329 ilvl needed for heroics on the way to lvl 85. A walk group for heroics is a death sentence for anyone who isn't a part of a raiding guild and even then if the bosses are overtuned you will not have a good time. You are also underestimating the time needed to get all the reputaions to exalted. By the time you hit 85 you might be able to max out one reputation.
Cata was the first xpac where epic items of the same ilvl as rare ilvl items weren’t given more stats… it was the death of epics actually feeling more “epic” than rare or uncommon items… but I still loved the xpac.
yea but its more about efficiency in terms of getting the highest ilvl pieces before the raids open because with the increased cadence it wouldn't surprise me if the raids are actually open the day cata launches and even if its not then it could be that thursday which is literally 4 days later
Some people never got to play it and want to experience it, i played it in the og and i loved it, i dont understand why so many people hate it, half the pop just wants the nostalgia
Because the reasons that people hated cata have already been fixed. A lot of peoples frustrations with cata came from long content droughts. As its classic we know that all of the content will be out within a year. Another problem is DS, however people realize that DS is the end of the expansion so its a non-issue now
People liked Cata, they hated 13 months of Dragon Soul (specifically the last 2 bosses). The people that hate Cata because it blew up the old world are never going to play any version of the game but Vanilla, so there's no point trying to cater to them.
well for me personally with it coming in the pre patch im gonna be stocking up on max fragments and keystones for the faction solves i need so its gonna give me something to do during the pre patch outside of just levelling an alt but i do hear ya
cant wait for players to join raid and full clear all bosses in 2.5hours or less.... than all the prebis and rep farm will no longer matter especialy 2 or 3 weeks into the raid... Just level your toons guys and do archeology its fun xD No need to rush anything. Instead make some gold with proffessions and sell those pots and flasks to raiders or craft em some epic gear/ make them darkmoon cards and than u can just buy all bis gear in gdkps xD or buy gametime instead so you can slowly gear up while waiting for the worst expansion ever MoP
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Whilst solid advice, I feel like alot of your commentary on getting crafted epic items over rep rewards a bit tone deaf, these epic crafted items are going to be a small fortune. I guess this just re-enforces the wow token paypigs mindset.
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this video wouldve been in one ear out the other with so many different things to track, so thank you for providing the spreadsheet
Great video! Thank for being such a great source for wotlk and now cata. You have helped to make my wow experience amazing!
For tanks, asap get exalted with Tol Barad faction. The trinket is BiS till firelands and situational after. Its the only thing that lasts for the entire expansion for tanks.
Great research, great work and thank you for doing this prep and sharing!
Solid info. Exactly some of the stuff i was looking for. Thank you.
Scotte, man! Above and beyond with the spreadsheet, dude! I main a DPS warrior and I'm hardcore stuck into mining and blacksmithing, but that is still going to save me so much time trying to work out what to do first. Thanks a ton!
Love the content, keep smashing it!
scottejaye getting me stoked for cata
Great Video, can't wait to get into it and smash it
Hoping to see what your spreadsheet says for shamans soon! Thanks for all your work!
I didn’t think I would be, but I actually am so excited for Cata. I actually forgot how many good memories I had in Cata. Some of the best times actually in wow we’re in Cata.
Just waiting on the spreadsheet to be updated for resto/balance Druid’s ;)
Also, the Archaeology epics are super rare to proc onto, do not waste your time going for these unless you've fully done everything else for the day/week.
Scottejaye,
I like how you call the Tabard "Ta-bawd"
In the US we call it "Ta-Bird"
Love it. :)
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This is how a fresh endgame should be. I think this xpac has the PERFECT faction setup. You can earn meaningful progression with good rewards while leving, and no super obnoxious daily quest grinds. It gives each zone importance thus making all of them relevant, and decent gold earning potential that isn't just mindless "stand here in this small area, fighting other players for tags and kill the same mobs over and over" or play the auction house game.
no love for mail agility in the spreadsheet :(
Looks at spreadsheet
"Cloth DPS" me an ele shaman 😢
Any eta on mail agi? for spreadsheet
@scottejaye any plans to update the sheet for mail (hunter) users before launch?
Great video man! Appreciate it!
Does the spreadsheet have something for a plate healer?
I loved cataclysm, if you wanted to just do pve, all you had to do was pve, no doing quest lines, no fucking about with irrelevent side shit like exploring or anything. If i wanted to get more gear in pve, it required me to do pve. It's just kinda of like DUH
Great video - always makes my day 🥰. Question: are you saving the Stonekeeper Shards, turning them into Commendations and keeping them or capping honor? Cheers 🥳
Yea mate 100%
@@Scottejaye hehe but which one is it? 1. Shards, 2. Commendations or 3. Honor? Which of the three would be best or is it all the same? 🙈
Thanks SJ good info 💪
Enhancement or hunter sheet is missing in the spreadsheet
Tabard gang go wild
You forgot a few items from archae. There's the cloth robe, the mail helmet, the agi 1h axe and the str 1h sword.
The robe and helm aren't level 85 mate and i mentioned the sword
Im very Hyped for Cata. First Time im playing it, since i quit WotlK at the End of the Addon. So first Time playing :)
is the doc being updated? what about enh/hunters?
yea mate i'll have it all updated for all classes by tomorrow night
Thanks a lot! Warrior tank is going to be updated?
Make video about pvp gearing, i rly dont remember anything about starting sets for cata pvp
Yes, this would be a good short video idea.
Gear pvp in cata is pretty much get your honor gear and then move on to the conquest gear.
You can get Gear from questing/dungeons/raiding/professions. But it'll mostly be Honor gear -> Conquest gear
do you think they'll make the new shoulder enchants bind on account rather than BOP? that be cool
Great Video! Really helpful
This is what makes wow cancer these days everything is a rush to do everything as fast as possible
To be fair, a lot of people want to gear up a lot of toons for raid with first week.
Because the majority of the wow player base is like 30+ year olds who have kids/full time work/partners etc etc we aint 17 year old's with literally near zero responsibility.
I wouldn't say fast as possible.. but more like using our time wisely on what we need to achieve in game. There's no rushing with faction rep, it just takes time and it's useful to know which faction to get for your current class/spec. Would be rough to get exalted on a faction you don't get any epics with on your first run through. But that's just imo. Play as you wish (; no one pays for your sub, only you do [:
If you level slow you're behind. Trying to gear a month into the exp is a disaster. All the noobs are running dungeons. You won't be getting into a raid etc. Thr game has a clock.
Wow has always been like this bro where u been
Hope someone can help me out here. I've read from several sources that you only need 450 archeology to get such things as Zin'rokh. Does that mean I could basically start farming for it at level 80 once the prepatch drops?
What about if we are going into cata with capped justice points and a stack of tradable honor tokens? I'm assuming we won't be picking up some of these items in that case
Silly question, I've changed my stone keeper shards into commendations, should i hold on to those and then use them in the prepatch? Or just them until honor cap and bank the rest? not sure if the commendation honor changes scale differently to the flat hoor -> honor point changes
keep the commendations until 85 once you start spending your JP cap, then convert honor into JP if you want the PvE gear or spend the honor on PvP gear then use the commendations to keep topping your honor up to either convert or use as straight honor
Thanks for this video. Will the spreadsheet be updated with additional class types soon? I am specifically interested in hunter at the moment.
im just working on the DK top 10 change video and once thats done, the sheet is my next stop to get all the classes on it
@@Scottejaye Thanks!
@@ScottejayeI knew the second I read this, you weren't going to. I was right lol
Thanks a lot for the great content! Is the idea that the spreadsheet will be customizable to each individual players professions etc? Like for instance if it was a dynamic sheet that could factor in your desired professions (including whether somebody would want to do any archeology) and then output the most optimal path of rep grind based on what items will be obtainable for your choices?
What's the name of the helmet you are wearing at 6:38 kinda curious
Kinda want the name of the shoulders too now that I think of it :D
can we get ele shaman for spreadsheet?
I did tons of archeology in cata and only found the caster ring. Those items are extremely rare
how many quests i need to do to be able to buy the tabard? im mainly grinding instances all the time
Hey @Scottejaye, can you dial down the volume of the background music - its been way too loud and distracting in recent vids.
But the game is releasing like its the last patch, wouldnt that mean the orbs are probably going to be not bound? might just start as a tradeable function.
they didnt do it with frozen orbs even though the frozen orbs were boe on the beta so i would guess not personally but who knows
When cata first launches, anything with hit will be BiS for casters until they get hit cap. So that Wild Hammer 346 ring having almost a full 1% hit will def be something they chasing.
wow love the guide!
How do I make some ez gold in cata (just want to afford my monthly wow token)
Gdkp?
Think that'll be getting banned..@@Orgrimmar21
@@reddblueblur Hopefully, but I don't think they'll do it for Cata tbh
@@Orgrimmar21 idk how they'd plan to do it, but I really hope they do
Transmuting truegold. So if you have any alt without alchemy, level it before pre patch, because they will change quest for Master Trasmuter or whatever it called. Making cards with inscription may be very profitable and inscription is cheap to level right now.
We got like 2 weeks minimum *bar any pushbacks or bugs in raid encounters* tull we can even pull a raid boss so... speeding is effectively irrelevant.
Will you make a sheet for Balance? Or will Gho?
everything will be on the sheet in the next day or 2
The sheet doesn't have info for Shaman & Hunters?
are u gonna make a tank item list on the spreadsheet
Yea mate i'll be working on the rest of the classes tomorrow
Yea mate i'll be working on the rest of the classes tomorrow
Is the rep account wide and are the items account or character bound?
Is it just me or did I not see a single mail item....
Since you the talked about crafted items as much as the rep farm
Darkmoon cards are going to be insane
Like legit insane... Better have an alt that can craft cuz it's gonna be the sought after items for both healers and caster DPS
Hunters tottaly ignored ?`xP
where are the mail wears?
Nice work
Hunters aren't on the spreadsheet, I assume they're the same reps as rogue?
All classes will be on the sheet in the next day or 2 mate
Tbh there is no reason to choose Vashj'ir over Hyjal. You only get a tiny amount of earthen ring rep from Vashjir, versus tonnes of Guardians rep + the Hyjal chain is required for unlocking the Molten Front dailies in the Firelands patch.
13:02 the big what? 😄
Hunter in sheet when?
I'm just gonna play Cata to farm gold with a Blood DK soloing dungeons and buy tokens, that's all I'm gonna do
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Good guide BUT lets not pretend anyone will actually get the archaeology weapons from Tolvir, they are exceptionally rare, FAR more rare than the mount or the 2hander from Trolls etc. I had over 1500 Tolvir solves and never saw any of the Tolvir epic weapons on retail. And it's stories of people needing near 10 000 solves to get them, and the mount is about 100 solves on average and even that takes a long time.
If any of you are interested in PVP now is the time PVP was at its finest and cata. Don’t waste this opportunity.
2 weeks? More than enough time to get exalted with every faction
Still waiting on that Jewelcrafting video for prepatch!!! Hook us up please!
Hopefully shoulder enchants are account bound and not char specfic...
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"The big WHAT?"
So much overthinking. Since we currently have a Cata speed run on the Whitemane private server, there is a much easier way to go around gearing. If you are lvl 80 start hitting dem battlegrounds for the 352 ilvl pvp gear. This will probably be more important for dps specs since good luck getting into dungeon queues.
Boomkins, shadow priests and ele shamans have an easy time getting the hit % up since they can convert spirit into hit through talents and the ele shaman 4 piece pvp ability gives charges to lightning shield that give your earth shock a boost once you reach 9 stacks. Healers can also go on this route since healing dungeons is rough at the start without gear.
Doing arenas or converting some valor into conquest would also be helpfull since you cannot guarantee getting head/shoulders until ZA/ZG and the hour of twilight patch at the end.
TL;DR: Farm honor points for 352 ilvl gear, pick up some tabbards, then switch to normal/heroics for justice and valor farm. Add some conquest points if head & shoulders are lacking behind.
I do love private server brain of being a solo player, literally no one who wants to raid seriously would do any of this and as for converting conquest to valor, you still have a cap so whats the point. While your wasting time doing battlegrounds to get 352 gear that you will replace in your first heroic, i'll already be exalted with a rep lol.
And yes i've played on ridiculous amounts of private servers and the gear pathing is NEVER the same as classic.
I mean you do you though if you want to waste time doing BG's for gear you are going to replace, you are literally just adding an extra step to what i have already broken down for no reason what so ever. Ding 85, create a walk group and do heroics, simple as that.
@@Scottejaye Aha, and you will magically get the 329 ilvl needed for heroics on the way to lvl 85. A walk group for heroics is a death sentence for anyone who isn't a part of a raiding guild and even then if the bosses are overtuned you will not have a good time.
You are also underestimating the time needed to get all the reputaions to exalted. By the time you hit 85 you might be able to max out one reputation.
Its much easier to get rep than 20 30k for crafter items man xD other than that very nice video
Cata was the first xpac where epic items of the same ilvl as rare ilvl items weren’t given more stats… it was the death of epics actually feeling more “epic” than rare or uncommon items… but I still loved the xpac.
ramkehem belt shits on the crafted belt
yea but its more about efficiency in terms of getting the highest ilvl pieces before the raids open because with the increased cadence it wouldn't surprise me if the raids are actually open the day cata launches and even if its not then it could be that thursday which is literally 4 days later
reforging is coming back so all gear can be made better woot
Cata hype ❤
Lich last patch
This grumpy Enh Shaman would request the Rogue/Feral tab be called agi dps instead!
just use wow marks and gdkp xD
Therazane
tah-bawd is crazy.
So many people think this is sweaty...wouldnt you want to do your homework and play efficiently? Nobody has 6 hours a day to mindlessly grind anymore
Genuine question, why are people excited to play the same old expansion again, also, didn't everyone hate Cata???
Some people never got to play it and want to experience it, i played it in the og and i loved it, i dont understand why so many people hate it, half the pop just wants the nostalgia
To do everything i didn't do the first go, for me that's doing all the raids on heroic with the bois
Because the reasons that people hated cata have already been fixed.
A lot of peoples frustrations with cata came from long content droughts.
As its classic we know that all of the content will be out within a year. Another problem is DS, however people realize that DS is the end of the expansion so its a non-issue now
People liked Cata, they hated 13 months of Dragon Soul (specifically the last 2 bosses).
The people that hate Cata because it blew up the old world are never going to play any version of the game but Vanilla, so there's no point trying to cater to them.
@@Kensber85my other gripe with cats was the randomised stats on gear you craft while levelling crafting professions
never farm for archeology its total waste of time did that in vanilla cata... regret spending 3 weeks on it
well for me personally with it coming in the pre patch im gonna be stocking up on max fragments and keystones for the faction solves i need so its gonna give me something to do during the pre patch outside of just levelling an alt but i do hear ya
As if you wont be exalted with all factions in 1 week lmao
Nah mate...
I casually play the WoW game... I don't go gold farming.
just do them all anyway smh
Dat name lol
imagine playing a game that has gdkp lmao
I raid on 1 toon in my guild and on the other in a GDKP without noobs, it's great
cant wait for players to join raid and full clear all bosses in 2.5hours or less.... than all the prebis and rep farm will no longer matter especialy 2 or 3 weeks into the raid...
Just level your toons guys and do archeology its fun xD No need to rush anything. Instead make some gold with proffessions and sell those pots and flasks to raiders or craft em some epic gear/ make them darkmoon cards and than u can just buy all bis gear in gdkps xD or buy gametime instead so you can slowly gear up while waiting for the worst expansion ever MoP
This is all a Bit to much, if you dont want to go for world First
Gotta be honest i dont know what you mean? Not wasting time doing the wrong reputations first is a bit much?
How? Just like he said, he just explains wich ones to do and not to do , while you are levling anyway.
Lmao… 👏
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Love your videos and keep up the great work!
That's weird mate, no idea tbh. I appreciate you keep coming back though!
Blue gear has a name butt kicker
Whilst solid advice, I feel like alot of your commentary on getting crafted epic items over rep rewards a bit tone deaf, these epic crafted items are going to be a small fortune. I guess this just re-enforces the wow token paypigs mindset.
then don't do it? did you really need help with that decision?