Clam Screened Pavillion - WATCH BEFORE YOU BUY
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2018
- This video is a review of the Clam screened outdoor shelter
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I've been tent-camping for 45 years and bought the Clam Pavilion a few years ago and love it. I spray-waterproofed the roof and seam-sealed the entire tent before using. Three of us and my dog camped with it four days and it rained/misted for 72 hours straight. Except for sleeping, we were in the Clam most of that time, cooking, eating, drinking, and napping. Didn't leak a drop. Inside was a large picnic table, 3 large coolers, dog bed, propane stove and oven, 3 lawn chairs, 6 large tote boxes, and space to lay down. Yes, the storage bag should be a little bigger and I wish it broke down shorter than seven feet long, but on that trip the Clam made the difference between going home and staying for a wonderful time!
Can you tell me which products you used to waterproof please?
@@karenwalcott9648 Atsko Waterproof Silicon Amazon sells it for $9.99 per can.
Are you able to set this up over a picnic table that is not moveable? And did you have the same problem with not enough breeze during days hotter than 85 degrees as stated in review video?
@@harrywells2754 We set it up easily over a fixed full size picnic table. Did not use it in warm weather.
I appreciate your honest review of this rather expensive shelter. The deal breaker for us is the heat retention of the clam.
All tents are hot. If you want cool on a hot summer day, get an RV with air conditioning
Awesome review! Answered all my questions. Saved us the trouble of buying only to find disappointment. THANK YOU!!
Appreciate the honest review. Thanks
Rain protection: even the best tents need to have the seams sealed. There are commercial preparations for this, or you can just use clear Silicone caulk, and work it into the seams with your fingers.
Dripping ceiling: most of the drippage is caused by condensation. No really too much you can do about that. It is just kind of raining inside.
Heat: we are in Texas. It gets hot! The first thing we do after setting up the clam is to run a heavy gauge 50’ extension cord, direct from the power pole to the clam. Then we set up a couple of box fans. We can sit in it at Texas temps, in relative comfort. We also use it to power our coffee maker, and the string of lights and occasionally the electric skillet.
Collapsing: if the sides are all down, and the windows are all closed, we have never had a collapse. Just the air pressure inside keeps the top up. In 20 mph winds, gusting to 40 mph. The two times we had the sides rolled up and had a collapse, it as a small matter for me (72 years old) to empty the top and pop it back up. No damage done.
Our clam always goes onto the truck last, and comes off first. I honestly can’t see us camping without it!
Marney Mason some good tips for the heat. The water we had was rain not condensation. I have been in many tents and have had condensation. New shelter shouldn’t have to be seam sealed but never the less it would help for sure. Thanks for sharing.
@@MWDAdventures Most tents do not have factory seam sealing, even expensive ones. Ultimately is is almost always the end users responsibility. Tent companies site the amount of space/time that would be required to set up each tent, seal it up, and then let it dry. Better to save the customer some money and allow them to do it themselves. Sounds like a simple tarp would take care of the rain intrusion issue, and likely minimize a lot of the thermal gain. Granted, a rainfly sounds like it should be a factory option.
Ive bought several Eureka tents that came "tape seam sealed" already.
We have had our Clam for 4 years and we love it. This summer was the first time I had any leaking and it was very little. I will use seam sealer to seal some of the seams. We used to have trouble putting it back in the bag but with time you get better at it. I love sitting in my clam during a light rain storm. Yes, wind can cause problems and my husband has made a pole to put up in the center for when it gets real windy. We have a camper but when we go camping we spend most of our time in the Clam. I have my coffee maker, my tv, a fan, a table chairs, just like home. When the sun starts to beat in, you just put down the flap where the sun is coming in and you can open the windows on the flaps as well. I would not camp without my Clam!
I concur
Thank you, for the honest review.
super helpful, thank you! I'm going to get the updated Sky Camper now!
I've had one for about a year its been OK so far, I have used mine in the rain a few times works great no leaks
I just took mine down for the first time , to get it in the bag myself was Like wrestling an Alligator
ha, ha,.....so true
Honest review. Thanks.
VERY Helpful! agree about the sun and rain protection We like the info
Thanks for your honest assessment of this product. Helped me decide this is not what I want especially the poor sewing workmanship. The sun will destroy this in 2 years.
Thanks for sharing your experience with this. We were just about to buy one, but not now. Great idea, but as you said, still needs more development work.
Same here. Clam are you listening?
Thanks for filming
Thanks for the honest review... I was just about to pull the trigger on this.. Being in Texas, that heat issue is a no go for me...Especially if you are on a beach with no electricity for fans... Hopefully the folks at Clam will make improvements to this tent...
You can treat the ceiling with water resistance spray on, takes about 20 minutes and treat the seams with seam seal you get at Walmart and you will be enjoying your Clam tent in the rain. There is video on you tube showing how to do it and how to show the results after being in the rain for 3 hours.
For what it cost, this should already tape seam sealed and waterproofed.
Thanks for the review. I was going to buy one but now I'll have to keep looking for a different shelter.
Great review, thanks!
Thank you very much for making this video and honest review. You saved me a bunch of money! These aren't cheap and have many flaws!
excellent review. Very helpful. thanks
I have 2 pavilions and the excursion. Love my pop ups. I use tie down straps for the side panels to help with the wind and I have a 8 foot pvc pipe on stand by for crazy windy days for the middle. Extra stuff to bring but I don’t mind it. As far as the heat I agree so dang hot!! On one of my pavilions I actually cut out the back panel to help with the heat and it worked, way cooler! Not a 100% stable but it holds up. I actually punched in some wholes and added some tent poles like an awning. I take that tent as a primary. Looking forward to buying the floor and rain fly accessories.
Wolfman47 nice to know. When you add the new floor and rain fly it can get really pricey. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you, was considering this product
Saved me a few bucks and a hassle.
Thank you
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Good review brother thanks!
One additional point. The straps on the sidewall hubs... DON’T tie ropes to them! Use them simply for pulling out the sidewalks to pop up the tent. For tie outs, use ropes secured to small carabiners, and clipped into the rings. That way, you can clip and unclip them to roll the sidewalls up and down. It makes the process much easier than trying to untie and retire the rope, or thread the whole rope through the hole in the sidewall. The Clam is every good thing anyone has ever said about it. Nay sayers just haven’t learned to use it correctly yet!
Marney Mason great idea.
Marney Mason check out my alternative to the clam on my channel. I bought the gazelle tent. First impressions video is up.
Thank you for sharing.
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great review, thanks for saving me the dollars and the hassle...was planning to purchase.
They work fine. You are getting a big shelter/tent. You can’t do a half assed purchase and then complain about what you have on hand when you literally want to use it for all situations. If you would of bought the rain fly AND bathtub style floor for this unit then I believe that you would of been more impressed with it total capabilities. You bought the base unit item in it’s most low dollar configuration. A bug screen shelter for cocktails and dinner. For a tent, you have learned that both a floor and rain fly are necessary. The side panels should be kept rolled up as much as possible for cross ventilation. Now you know. And lastly, no tent is cool in direct sun. This is exactly why even RV’s have air conditioning!
For the cost vs actual size of its foot print, this company provides a very effective product line.
Thank you Matt for getting back with me. We’re leaning towards this one. We’ve always been tent campers. This year we decided to buy a new sleeping tent and will use the clam as our kitchen tent. Love to hear in put on items before we buy them! Now we need to find our sleeping tent. Leaning towards the Coleman Octagon. Rain proof is the must have when tenting! We returned a beautiful sleeping tent last year due to massive leaking like you showed this one doing. Thanks again!
Theresa Britton take a look on my. Channel I have a video on a gazelle tent you might be interested in. Very nice tent.
Best waterproof tents are made by Kodiak. They are pricey but worth the money.
Outstanding review.... Thanks .... We’re trying to find one that’s waterproof,With a floor and EZ setup.
Great review, thank you so much. I was just about to trade my 9-person Coleman Prarie Breeze for this due to ease of setup. Thank you for saving me from that mistake.
Just bought this in clam April 2022, for a backyard gazebo. We got it with the optional tarp floor that attaches with velcro all around. In the past week we have had 3 rainstorms, the inside remained dry. It is set up under a giant Manitoba Linden tree which provides shade over the tent roof as well as some rain protection. I noticed that Amazon and Way-fair sell the optional rain fly for this clam roof. I may buy the rain fly at some point. I staked the tent down from the roof using the clips where the rain fly would attach to the roof. Not sure if this will be better then staking to the pull-out in the walls, so far we have not had a big wind. This clam screen gazebo will remain set up from May until the end of October to provide shelter from the bugs, wind and rain. I have the tarp floor then indoor/outdoor carpet in the middle, a glider love seat with cushions, lawn chairs, a stand up bar table, dog bed and end tables in there. We use it for coffee, relaxing.. etc.. I call it camping urban style. Last year we used our late 1980s camping screen tent with storm flaps, it was great for sun and bugs..not waterproof anymore. The new clam is a major upgrade.
Thanks for your review. We were considering this model, but we will look elsewhere. For the price, there is simply no reason why they could not include a reflective rain fly for both rain and sun protection. Too many shelters become hothouses in the sun because of thin translucent tent materials.
Thanks for saving me money.
So glad i watched this. I wanted one of this for oolong. but now i'm reconsidering. I knew about the heat issue, but not all that bug problem. I don't care if they don't bite, i don't want to be bother. I have problems with my fingers so trying to shove the tent back in the bag with such difficulty won't do for me. Well this is sad. back to the drawing board so to speak
thank you for this important info! I'm looking to live out of a sienna van but with a quick set up kitchen tent for cooking and longer stays. But it needs to be done by 1 person alone and rain proof and sun sheltered. Clearly not this one. I'm wondering if there is a way to set up an van awning or tarp off the passenger side van slider door to permit cooking outside under a rain and sun proof roof.
If you want a Tent buy a Tent this is not a Tent it's a Shelter & it is awesome for what it is
You can buy the rain fly to cover the top for rain. We have had ours and have never had an issue without the fly on it. Also you can buy the optional floor to keep the ground bugs out. Friends of ours had it up during a heavy rain storm and no leaks.
I use mine all the time camping ur right hot as hell in the day I've camped several times in the rain and mine held up great
All tents are hot. Period. None ventilates better than this
I have an old Cabela’s 6’x6’ Screen hub tent. I have used it for years in the yard mainly, not camping. The things you point out are true. But the odd thing is, I still use it and have to re-engineer it as I can’t find another screen tent or camp tent I’d spend money on to do what I want it to. Yeah, reflect heat(no trees here), mostly. I have to put an old reflective canopy cover over my hub tent to block heat. I don’t know why the tent makers can’t make a tent with an aluminized fabric roof! The beach tents have it, but they are small for actual camping. I take it down if threat of rain. If wind kicks up, need strong stakes, hubs tied down, but it simply will collapse if enough wind and storming, start tearing fabric, hubs are weaker. Yeah, so best it’s not up in a storm. I had to buy aluminum poles for the front door, to stabilize. Mine has no floor, and I like it, less to fold up! But a removable floor is great! I want to buy another tent but not until the main tent makers have heat reflective fabric, removable floors, and easy up features.
I just purchased a pavilion after camping with a borrowed 140x140 Clam with three panels. I was extremely impressed with the ease of set up and the added privacy of the panels. I have been using a Coleman 12X10 screen shelter but it is heavy and difficult to set up albeit it's roof is waterproof and it has a decent solar blocking roof. I solo camp half the time and the privacy is nice as sometimes when you are next to a large group of people it can feel like you have a lot of eyes on you. I plan on using a UV waterproofing tent spray for the roof and reflectix panels if need be. I appreciate your insight into the product.
Croaker I would love to buy another one in a heartbeat. I loved the easy of setup but I need something waterproof. Camping with a pop up camper I need an outdoor space I can read or play cards in the rain. I really don’t like to spray the light nylons as it takes away the fireproofing.
No Problem . I just don't prefer to spray the top as it kills the fire retardant nature of the product. I am thinking to look into the tent model by gazelle . It has a rain fly which would bre great if the Clam model came that way. I have used my cheapy 100.00 tailgater awning for now and its completely waterproof after 10 years of use just had it in a 2 hour rain storm. I really hope clam works on the design and I would buy another one.
wow. leaked rain, doesn't ventalate, no heat reflection, and no floor so ground bugs came in, and bag too small. thank you for review.
Excellent review. I purchased the Clam Traveler model, but have not used it in real conditions yet. I’m disappointed that it does not afford much protection from the rain. I guess I’ll be using it mostly as a privacy shelter to change my clothes and as a place to escape the mosquitoes (when it’s not raining).
Wayne Clark should work fine.
Thanks for the review. I have watched a few videos on this clam pop up shelter and honestly I was just about to make the purchase...until I saw your video. I guess the issues can be remedied with a little effort and a few bucks but I'm not sure I want to do that when the price is already hefty enough. I'm definitely still interested...looking forward to a review video with these issues fixed/updated.
villam10 we ended up purchasing a Gazelle gazebo, which is a similar hub style gazebo. www.amazon.com/dp/B00VVM72ES/?ref=idea_lv_dp_ov_mw&tag=aiponsite-20&linkCode=ic6&ascsubtag=amzn1.ideas.2LEMF3AE3Q5AX
Glad I watched this. I have been looking for something similar. My group (club) goes out and does camping 4 times a year. We are in Arizona, where up on the Rim it still gets warm/hot. We have always tried using just EZup's and those are difficult to setup with just a single person. Started looking at these and and was thinking these were perfect. But we get thunderstorms, and heat. And if it gets too hot to sit in when the outside temps are 80 we wouldn't enjoy this. Wish they would have two doors or maybe different size screens. If they had the ability to have larger screens for those hot times, and then the no see-em mesh for the cooler temps (since that is when the bugs are out anyways), and then the rain flaps for the rainy times, that would be perfect.
Orion Thrower they have updated one model with screens windows that open but with no air movement I think it would still be hot.
Thanks for the great review. I now know that it won't work in the Pacific northwest. What is a better one?
Same on the heat retention of the Gazelle t4 hub tent
Thank you so much for sharing your experience. I was planning to buy a clam, love it's portability, but I hate everything else. I don't think I'd buy one now even if they were to cut the price in half ! Thank you so much once again !
Thanks for the warning!!!
I just saw where someone scotch guarded their roof successfully. I’m going to try this. It is water resistant, not water repellent..
Steve Wallis tarps his and uses it for sleeping
Great review.
Thank you for your honesty.
Alao, those have to be folded up correctly (smoother not bunched up material) for them to fit back in the bag easier. Being wet would be heavier but it shouldn't be bigger.
Thank you for your review.
Did you find one that is better for heat and rain.??
From what I have heard, the Clam is built to collapse in high wind.
I've heard some say it's supposed to collapse in strong wind so that it doesn't pull on the grommets, etc.
Thank you for your honesty! I’m looking for a water proof screen tent to use as our camping kitchen. Tents are being made with cheap fabric that does not with stand rain. If you ever found a screen tent worth buying, please let me know.
Theresa Britton I would considering buying this one but I would purchase the rainfly. The rain fly wasn’t available at the time of the video.
Good thing I watched this before buying.
can you anchor it in the wind and leave it up?
Thanks I’ve heard others report they were hot inside
Great video. I want a floor in it to keep bugs out. I swear...a cheap tent looks better and better after these clam reviews. It might take a bit longer to set up a tent but over the long haul it might be easier. lol I keep looking at these clam shelters because of easy up and down, but your review pretty much shut the door on a clam. Thanks again
You should have bought the rain fly for the top!! It works!! We sit in the rain all the time and it never leaks.
We have had a Clam Escape for severs years and love it. Our side panels are separate. In watching your video I noticed yours didn’t seem to be of the same quality as ours. We have very little water in heavy rains and then it’s because of the panels not being sewn to the top. Your fabric seemed much thinner. We don’t have pin holes at the seams. Our top has never collapsed and it’s been in some pretty heavy storms. We did have one side blow in but we didn’t have the tie downs on that side so it was our fault. It does seem warm inside because the mesh is so thick we can’t get a breeze. We don’t really use ours as a bug shelter but we use it to store our stuff in while camping.
When we close ours and have it on the ground we roll it and all the fabric rolls around it. This makes it much easier to get the the bag. I wonder if the sides were tied up or secured down if yours would have been easier to get in the bag. It is so much easier than any other canopy we have had to put in a bag. It is a little big, we often call it a dead body.
I am wondering if the quality has went down. I watched this video because I like ours so much I was thinking of getting one with sides attached. Thanks for the video. I think I’ll keep our current one.
Glad you have had better luck with yours.
So glad we watched this video because we've been going to buy one.. they really need to improve it!
Best review! Thank you for pointing these trouble spots out! I applaud you! I now won’t buy this shelter
Super cool friend greetings 👍😃🙋♂️
I bought rainfly and zip on floor. Added a fan and am happy. But boy is it heavy!
Heavy? It breaks down into 3 different pieces🤷🏻♂️
You can buy a rainfly for that I bought one they also sell a floor for it I bought it
Tarp and portable air conditioner
Thanks for sharing your experience, what shelter would you recommend?
We currently have the Gazelle Deluxe Gazebo amzn.to/46Xwvp4
It is quick set up, walls are attached, has a front awning area and great quality. Here is a review video of this awning:ua-cam.com/video/fZ0YHzJLgQI/v-deo.html
Clam now has a rain fly and a floor for this model. Go to Clam's website for them. Also when you take it down, take some rope and tie up the shelter before you put it in the bag. It will fit in the bag easy. I never had a problem getting it in the bag (wet or dry). I have to use a painter's pole to keep the center up in major rain storms. (We had 2 canopies and the clam in a major storm. The 2 canopies were wrecked and the clam stood tall.) I love my clam.
Kevin Wakeman glad to hear they made changes.
Kevin Wakeman that is great news for sure. We ended up switching to the gazelle tent with rain fly and floor. Reviewing coming.
i just got it and i was going to put a tarp on it for rain but when you said that the center collapsed needing a support thing then that broke the deal for me. that's way too much. did you end up buying something else? now i don't know what to get.🤔
Good to know. We’ve been considering one but the price is too high imo for all the reports of rain caving in the roof
It is designed to collapse in excessive wind as not to damage itself. This is a smart design feature. It pops right back up. Hardly an issue. If it is that windy, you should be sitting in your car!!!
@@jonny0004 totally agree!
@@jonny0004 makes sense for high winds but zero sense for rain (which often accompanies high winds). Now I have a collapsed tent roof that has turned into a pool. No way to get the water off of it without causing damage. This is probably the real reason they didn't waterproof the top...
As far as I am aware the manufacturer only claims it is water-resistant, not waterproof.
There is a rain fly for it, I just bought one.
How did the rainfly workout? I just got a clam over the weekend and before I order the rainfly, did it work well?
How can i order and how much
We love ours best screen tent we ever bought . Blows Coleman out of the water!
But what about Eureka Northern Breeze?
Has anyone found anything better than the clam with a rain fly? Open to recommendations, but I think it will be hard to beat.
Great vid, do you think you can set this over a nice set of 4 chairs with propane firepit in the middle?
I have seen videos of people doing it without issues. I personally wouldn't
303 helps with repelling rain.
All I noticed is the beautiful neighborhood you live in.
Research aluminet sun shade and shiftpod blast shield
Thought it was suppose to collapse in high winds so it doesn't damage or fly away
Why not use the seam glue on it to prevent leakage? What about a large nylon tarp for a rain fly over the top? They do have reflective material on tarps that should help. It sounds like it may need a tarp for the floor. Not a big deal to add for a added shelter if you need one.
Pilgrim Carolee they have now come out with a rainfly.
I have the 2021 Clam Pavillion Camper with floor and I like it less and less. It is the wrong tent for me and even though it is easy to set up and take down, they make up for it when trying to get the floor and tent back into the bag. It is also a little too heavy for 1 person to carry around, especially with the floor in the bag with the tent. I now keep the floor in a separate bag. My old Clam tent was a better tent for me, but not as sturdy as the Pavillion Camper.
they do have rain fly and floor
Is it possible to throw a tarp over the top to help with the heat?
Yes, you could put a tarp over the top.
Make a rain cover for them I have one
What shelters have you liked? I was thinking of getting the big Agnes Sugarloaf shelter. Have you had any experience with it?
Isaac242 I picked up the gazelle gazebo. Review on my channel.
ONE WORD, PERMATEX!!!!
I had added this to my "shopping list" on Amazon. I'm not going to get one. I also need rain and heat protection. I'll choose something else.
You need to use a seam sealer and a tarp for the floor which is typical for all tents / gazebos that are not rated 4 season.
So whats the next best alternative pop up ??? Is it going to be better ???
seabreezeof I bought the gazelle gazebo. Check the channel for a review.
Consider a Shiftpod 2.0?
That would be great if you're looking for a tent, but this is a screen room for additional living space out of rain & bugs
I think you're supposed to remove the side panels before packing it up. That may be why you had so much trouble fitting back into the bag.
1nharmony these panels are sown on.
Get seam treatment, like you would use on a tent or screen tent.
I wouldn't expect anything less on a "baking hot day". Plus, I'm not getting how rain was dripping on you while playing cards if the holes where on the sides of the tent.
What tent did you buy instead?
We ended up with a Gazelle G6 Screen room
What did you go with after you returned this? I'm looking for a screen shelter with rain proof top as well. Wondering if you found one you like!
gazelle branded. I have had it with a dozen rain storms and no issues.
@@MWDAdventures glad to hear it. I was looking at those too. Did you consider the Eureka Northern Breeze at all? It appears to have everything but I'm hesitant bc of that price...
I have had the same issue with every single dining tent and gazebo we have ever used or have been in. The issue being, no breeze through no seeum mesh, its always what I have experienced, rain penetrates, its resistant, not rain proof, no tent is, so you need to spray the tent twice a year with silicone, bugs, well, I have never been in any shelter that is bug proof, no such thing, and finally, heat penetration from the sun, well, I have never seen a shelter designed to be sun proof either. How many of us have been awakened by the morning sun in our tents at 7am? I think your expectations did not meet the reality of camping.. I have been camping for well over 40 years, and anyone who thanked you for sharing this also has zero experience in my view. Thanks for taking the time to post, but to be honest, camping is about roughing it a little, and not like sitting at home in your living room. With all due respect I dont think people with no real experience should be posting hate vids about products, its just not fair to the manufacturers in my humble opinion. :-)
Axeman Fishing wasn’t meant as a hate video just sharing some thoughts for the glampers with high expectations. I have been using a cheap 12x12 dicks sporting goods with no bug net for ten years. It’s Grey lined underside reflects heat on the hottest days. Sprayed it for complete waterproofing. We can play cards and not get wet. We are cooler too without the no-sems poor ventilation issues. Most of the times I sleep in a hammock with a tarp or occasionally are pop up camper. No air, no water, no potty so I have a few years roughing it. The point of buying this clam was to have a place for the kids to use as a changing room. Water proof for a added guest to sleep in and reduce mosquitoes a bit. That said this had to many negatives at the time to recommend to some one that wanted all the bells and whistles of this model. Since this video they have fixed all the issues that I had mentioned so someone is paying attention to the UA-cam videos. How else does a company know how there product is holding up in the field without feed back. They now sell a floor for this model and a rain fly so some one is listen. Also since this video I have purchased a gazelle tent which is the same style hub tent but with a floor and rain fly.
what’s the weight of the 150 and the 140sq ft?
34lbs for smaller one and 41 for bigger one . Its a beast to get back in the bag solo.
We use it strictly as a place to store our bikes and things we want to keep dry and it works for us. I hope you didn’t ship it back wet 😬