I had to DECONSTRUCT my Christian faith and here's WHY...
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Deconstructing has become a popular topic in the Christian community. I even felt the need to deconstruct my self...here’s my take on it.
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This is what happened to me in 2016. Now in 2022, i see jesus as something different and personal to me. Like having a personal relationship with God.
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Deconstruction is not deconverting! Im so glad you cleared that up. Love this.
It's still a bogus unnecessary fad. Keep praying and fasting.
Where is deconstruction in the Bible? Should we not simply repent?
@@The_Word_Is_The_Waypoopy poopy
BS, your rejecting the holy spirit. Mortal sin. NOBODY listen to any of this crap.
When he embraced CRT is when I lost respect for him. But I ll pray for him
Thanks Lecrae for breaking this down. I was not aware of it, but I too went through the "deconstruction" and losing my religion...best decision I made in my 22 years of walking with Christ! Keep inspiring us! I'm a new fan of your truthful lyrics, message, and hip hop music! So so thankful for Christian hip hop music and artist!
Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian anymore than standing in a garage makes you a car.
True
even Jesus used to go to the temple
@@1.Nika.1 he sure did...
You go to church because you are a Christian not because going to church is gonna make you a Christian. And you go to church to grow, fellowship and stay involve as a church family. God didn’t call us to isolate but to consecrate.
@@mosfamly1874 you cannot survive long without body of the Christ..
You influence my son since he was 12 years old. Thank you he is now 16 and still pursuing his faith. Blessings Lecrae
I'm a 62 year old black man. I'm a Christian. I don't really like rap or hip hop , but I always liked your message in your music. It's powerful. You are talented , intelligent, and charismatic. I hope you keep sending God's word through your music. The world needs it now more than ever . 🙏 ( and I liked and subscribed 🙂)
Just a reminder and caution:
As believers, our theology & worldview must always be filtered through Scripture, and not through our personal opinions or preferences.
----- Stay in God's Word, my friends.
AMEN
AMEEEEN!!!
What about in scripture where Paul says a women should not teach a man. Now everyone can say that’s absolutely wrong and an error in scripture simply for the fact that God has raised up many strong powerful godly women who are leaders in the church so there are absolutely errors in scripture and you need to exercise discernment when reading the Bible!
You should always read the Bible and discrern what it says because many things that are “taught” are actually false. Please examine it and not just believe what the Bible says and take it word for word or believe what it says because someone is telling you it is right.
Paul did not add a new commandment that women should not teach. Yahweh told women to teach in the torah, Mariam, deborah, lydia, etc. The context is the women of that church who were making g a racket in those days were to keep silent. Not that women cannot teach. The spirit is calling women to teach and God commanded women to teach their children, including sons, his ways in the scriptures. The bible has been mistranslated in english and people are being lied to, the law was not done away with, Paul was speaking of the dogma of the Pharisees, not God's law. Please seek the spirit and be open to the truth, not man's teachings.
Lecrae I Really Respect You as a Christian, Even Though I May not Agree all the Time, I Realize Different People on Different Levels
Same Christ
I think there’s a major difference between “deconstructing” and unlearning bad theology and traditions. The idea is to get back to the Word of God and root everything you believe in the Bible. Deconstruction too often leads to throwing out the Word or twisting it to make it easier to believe. This is what happened during the Protestant Reformation. They did not deconstruct, but they re-formed. They reformed the Church from the bad theology of Catholicism and rooted their beliefs in the Bible instead of tradition. So whenever we are questioning things about what we believe, let’s think re-form and not de-construct
Facts my brother
@@rodneyb6334 Thanks bro. Too many Christians want to claim this word “deconstruction,” not knowing that they are really reforming by getting back to the Word. Deconstruction’s path is only to tear down
@@austinhendel1569 you are point my brother keep speaking the truth. Thank the Lord we are hearing the Holy Spirit because like you said the Lord bless is drawing all who truly know Him to a faith and relationship with Him that is truly based on HIM and The Word of God
@Austin_Hendel
Semper Reformanda
@@gavin_hill If that’s the facebook page, I’m already in it
I actually chose to deconstruct bc I felt my relationship with God was so beautiful that there had to be more to experience with God in an unconventional way. It's been very rough but also very expansive and beautiful. Currently in the reconstructive phase...🙏🏽
"I had to tear down the house because there had to be more to it than just walls and floors. Currently putting it all back together."
Stay close to God and he will provide for those who love him. And if you would like to learn what God's full message is about tune into Shepherd's Chapel and hear it chapter by chapter and verse by verse and you will be even more blessed.
Than you didnt Deconstruct you just reaffirmed your beliefs.
@classycheeks4352 There is no good reason to "deconstruct" your relationship with the Lord. If your relationship with Him is already beautiful then hold it near to your heart and cherish it.
It's good to hear your explanation and your side of the story. Deconstruction of faith shouldn't be synonymous with walking away from Christ. I think we should test ourselves that we actually believe what we believe, and we are indeed on the path to the narrow gate.
Deconstruct to reconstruct. I'm in that camp, too. 🙌
It does say in the Bible what will happen if you add or take away from the Bible! More is expected of someone who teaches!
@@rosemarietolentino3218 The book also says the disabled and unclean shouldn't be allowed to enter a church. It also says menstruating women are unclean and should be separated from society until it's over. It also says to take the virgin women and children of lost battles as sex slaves. Ignoring the broken moral compass that is the Bible, which books were added, removed, or even added again changed many times over until they settled on the texts we have today. It seems history has broke your rule many times over. Who's to say that verse is even relevant at this point?
Easier said than done. If you truly take the time to deconstruct she educate yourself outside the bias of the church and it's doctrine, It would take a lot of willpower, or at least willful ignorance, to examine all of the inaccuracies and contradictions within the religion and choose to still believe there is truth in the other parts we like.
I feel like Christians nowadays are too caught up in their feelings. We're supposed to be following Jesus and putting our trust in Him, not people. Where I see most of the "deconstruction" is when people have bad experiences with other people that they placed a certain high expectation on. They put their faith and salvation in man's hands rather than having a relationship with God for themselves. Those people then get in their feelings and say that since those people didn't behave the way they thought they should, God must not be real, or that churches can't be trusted, not realizing that it's man's fault, not God's. That's why the Bible says not to put trust in man, because when we do that, we begin to idolize those people and think they will never stumble, when in reality, they're just as messed up as everyone else. If the church is corrupt or has problems, talk to the pastor about it. Don't be a person who complains about a problem but does nothing to fix it. If those people aren't receptive, give your regards, dust your feet off, and find another church. This is an interesting yet sad topic...I pray that anyone struggling in their faith will get to know God better and begin to pit their trust in Him💯
The absolute truth…thank you brother
It's called apostasy.
Yo i fw the part about putting faith in god vs man.
You nailed it.
I think it's the love of sin and etc. Remember the parable of the sower as well.
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.
John 3:16-21
That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the lake. Such large crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and sat in it, while all the people stood on the shore. Then he told them many things in parables, saying: “A farmer went out to sow his seed. As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants. Still other seed fell on good soil, where it produced a crop-a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown. Whoever has ears, let them hear.” The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’ But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it. “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”
Matthew 13:1-23
Rev. Dr. King on the subject almost 60 years ago:
"There was a time when the church was very powerful--in the time when the early Christians rejoiced at being deemed worthy to suffer for what they believed. In those days the church was not merely a thermometer that recorded the ideas and principles of popular opinion; it was a thermostat that transformed the mores of society. Whenever the early Christians entered a town, the people in power became disturbed and immediately sought to convict the Christians for being "disturbers of the peace" and "outside agitators."' But the Christians pressed on, in the conviction that they were "a colony of heaven," called to obey God rather than man. Small in number, they were big in commitment. They were too God-intoxicated to be "astronomically intimidated." By their effort and example they brought an end to such ancient evils as infanticide and gladiatorial contests. Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an arch defender of the status quo. Far from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church's silent--and often even vocal--sanction of things as they are.
But the judgment of God is upon the church as never before. If today's church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.
Perhaps I have once again been too optimistic. Is organized religion too inextricably bound to the status quo to save our nation and the world? Perhaps I must turn my faith to the inner spiritual church, the church within the church, as the true ekklesia and the hope of the world..."
Did he have any speeches about his mistresses?
@@AllSven Maybe you are this easily distracted from the truth sitting in front of you, but I am not. Read his sermons and speeches. They are very good.
If you find yourself tempted to worship the man as a god, then ground yourself by meditating on whatever flaws you may be able to find in him. But if a man speaks the truth and you look for faults in him as an excuse not to listen, you are a fool.
I feel so seen. I’m in a phase of deconstruction right now and your story was so validating for me as my story with it was similar. I’m sorry not everyone understands what are trying to communicate but I see you!!!
Me too, especially the phrase…not throwing the baby out with the bath water.
Christians from the very beginning wanted to stay together, as a group. TOGETHER we are stronger.
Lacrae I respect what you are trying to do for people no church in awhile. but bro..I was hurt by the church also, and I told myself I will have a relationship alone with Jesus without going to church. I was so wrong!!!! The longer you stay disconnected and away from the congregation..the more you are under attack and sliding back into worldy behavior because this is a spiritual battle more than physical. we have to learn to forgive what people in the church have did to us and get back to God's ministries.
AMEN!!!
This is true. It has happened in my life.
Amen!
Because period 😍
Well said dear
So in this age of Christianity, where do the body of Christ assemble? They assemble at a church facility. So the scripture means exactly what it says, do not forsake the assembly. Not going to church is forsaking the assembly. Let’s keep it 💯. This half message that he’s presenting is misleading to younger Christians. If you see a problem in the Church, then take some courage and start speaking up. Don’t leave because that’s not the answer.
We live in a time of selfishness, thinking only about ourselves. We don’t go to church so we can be edified solely, but that we can encourage and edify our brethren. What did Paul say in Romans 1:11-12?
“I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong, that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith.”
The spiritual gift he was referring to was mutual encouragement in the faith. You not doing that when you are forsaking the assembly. Christians need to study the word and stop trying to be friends of this world. We are in a sad place in our faith here in America. I’m praying for a revival and a returning to what we loved at the beginning🙏🏽
Very good response
Spot on. What a shame that Lecrae is on the first step to apostasy.
They assembled on the sabbath and other holy days.
I agree he’s leading people in the wrong direction and he will be accountable in front of god all mighty on that day, so I hope you’re view changes lacre. I use to look up to you but I’m deconstructing away from you’re music and videos.
100% agree with you, church isnt just going to the building and worshiping on Sunday morning... it's simply the body of believers that you're in community with
I think this was dope. I honestly believe that as a black Christian "deconstruction" is very common because of some of our common experiences in this country, but understanding that God's Grace is sufficient and that even when we give up on God, he never gives up on us our process of reconstruction can begin. I am currently going through the "reconstruction" of my faith and it truly feels like a renaissance.
Friend, why do you even mention your race? whether you’re black or white, everybody struggles in this country. You need to stop feeling sorry for yourself, get rid of the victim mentality, you are beyond blessed brother, and so is lecrae, he’s rich, famous, in Walmart commercials, and he’s still complaining about being oppressed? Friend it’s like that for every race.
Just because a church is bad doesn’t make all churches or God bad. People gotta understand it’s about Christ
Thanks for posting this bro. Definitely relevant to where my wife and I are in our walk with the Lord as well.
Being a part of a local Church that meets at a building is a great process when you find a shepherd who preaches truth. You have the opportunity to worship corporately, pray corporately, hearing regular preaching of the word from someone who isn't going to give you confirmation bias of your own opinions, and you are forced to meet other people who need you. I noticed when a lot of people "leave" the Church meeting behind, they focus on themselves and don't serve the body of Christ too much. They certainly tend not to be held accountable in several serious ways as their Christian friends who also don't attend are equally comfortable in not holding each other accountable. Oftentimes deconstruction is a front for a selfish endeavor so you don't have to spend the with people you aren't exactly like in a system that isn't exactly what you want. Not every time, but probably most times it has some real negative implications. I wouldn't use that word or leave the Church, I would seek out truth while staying connected to a local regular meeting and be honest with them about my questions. Which is precisely what I did when I was struggling to grow in my faith and replace manmade ideas with God's original plans. That's a good defense against the echo chamber issue. I think your attempt to disregard the regular meeting of the Assembly was pretty weak from a scholarly perspective too. Glad to see you have love for God though buddy, keep trying to shine light. Been blessed by so much of your music when I was younger and love ya dearly. Keep thinking through this issue, and allow the Lord to move you through prayer and advice from people who are regularly serving the body of Christ. Consider the story of Apollos in Acts, perhaps you could use some of this.
Thanks for sharing this brother! A song I wrote about the church goes “she’s a filthy mess right now, but He’ll clean her dress somehow”. He’s coming back for a bride without spot or wrinkle, and many will be purified, refined and made white before He returns. Let’s call it… Reconstruction.
I’ve been listening to you off and on for years… It hasn’t been easy for me either, and glad you are still in the faith. God bless.
Deconstruction of anyone's faith is to be encouraged, if your faith is controlling you by dogmas, doctrines AND fear, if it doesn't hold up to your intelligence logic, conscience & inner guidance, it's vital for you to question the beliefs. I deconstructed from Christianity 30 years back and found eastern religion & philosophy more suitable for my evolution as a spiritual being!🙏🙏
How so? The Bible doesn't talk about "Deconstructing your Faith". You Faith will never hold up to YOUR Intelligence & Logic.
I personally don't like reading the Bible anymore, to me bible is full of too much dogmas & doctrines, it depicts an jealous angry God, especially the old testament! I had to decostruct as my experience of God is very different, pure love!
@@animalsarefriends4342 so you chose feelings over truth?
@@animalsarefriends4342 You’re correct in saying he’s and angry and jealous God. He’s angry that his creations continues to sin and he’s jealous over the little things we make more important than him. That same God who can kill us in any moment chooses to hold back his wrath. That same God sent his son to die for us. I’m sorry this world or any other religion cannot replicate that kind of love. People need to stop going after what makes them feel good and go after truth.
Christianity made me a more anxious and angry person. I spent alot of time obsessing about hell and how my family will go there. It's a mindvirus that drains all your joy, and happiness and turns you into a brainwashed zealot.
Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking our own “ASSEMBLY TOGETHER”, as is the habit of some, but “ENCOURAGING” one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.
I would say this versus very clearly talking about church, and I’m not talking about a building I’m talking about the church\ people. And why does it say for us to go to church or I should say “assembly together”? To encourage one another all the more as we see the day drawing near. 1 Thessalonians 5:11
The problem is silly people act like we can gather together anywhere other than a building or something. As long as you're gathering together somewhere and following biblical parameters laid out for the church then fine. But it's consistent gathering, edifying, encouraging, preaching and teaching of the word... Deconstruction is just an excuse to apostatize
I am glad Lecrae, is sharing his journey. Many years ago my wife and I had to "deconstruct and reconstruct" our spiritual journey due to the "Prosperity" movement. What I want to share is a little long but I feel it is needed. Let's not get caught up on the words "Deconstruct /Reconstruct", but hear the intent and meaning.
Jesus said; to be transformed by the renewing our minds, to take up our cross daily, to be discerning.… just to mention a few on going processes he commands us as believers to do. Let's keep things in perspective. Christ came to deconstruct the spiritual and religious constructs that man and the devil put in place. Jesus told the woman at the well and to us that; there is a change that will and is currently taking place, that worship/serving God will no longer be in a building or a certain place. He was getting her and us to focus our emphasis on the heart and people not in a building or place. Holy Spirit want us to have an ongoing assessment of our heart and how we are engaging in the culture and where our priorities are. The scriptures give the Believers a blueprint of how to fellowship, having key central locations in order to organize, to build, to encourage, gather funds & supplies in order to meet needs in the Body of Christ (B.O.D) and those in the community. The leadership in the churches have minimized from the emphasis of fellowshipping in homes, and in the community as Christ demonstrated. Instead, the emphasis has been over the centuries, for believers and non- believers come to the building. It is now problematic! because, the (B.O.C) Body of Christ has adopted a format and followed the pattern of the world religions in which I believe Holy Spirit had been and is revealing in these days how far off track we've become. Covid, was bad in so so many ways! It was also a eye-opener regarding how the church, society and the world had to re-evaluate the way things were getting done. Covid, has shown society that the construct of working within the confined four walls is not the main emphasis nor the only viable means of work anymore. Many now see working remotely from home and as entrepreneurs is more mainstream now and more pactful. Many companies have close their brick and mortar to change for better. Businesses now, have to reconstruct their way of doing things. It is the same premise regarding the traditional religious structure for the (B.O.C.) in which, change is needed. Will it be difficult yes! Because church leaders and buildings got dependent on people in the pews and emphasis on coming to the church building. But God can bring the change re-structure and renewal needed!
Remember, The Church aka (The Body of Christ) is different from the church building and religious structures that we go to. So, if we see them as one in the same, then we are already so off bases. This is not an isolated situation, many Christians and non- Christians feel the same way about the religious church construct. They and I see that there has been a disconnect/detachment from the religious church format. Many true seekers of God and Born Again believers are not at all or very hesitant about returning to the aka (church) building. I spoke to many that said how relieved they were from the pressure they felt by going to the building when the churches had to shut down for the pandemic. It doesn't have anything to do with their love for Christ, or wanting to be alone, or from a medical condition like being bed restricted or a social interpersonal aspect like being an introvert. Those things have their part in this as well!
What I want to point out is that, historical the church structure and leaders have placed high emphasis on the building and all those internal things surrounding it. And now a pandemic came and has bring to light where the heart or emphasis really is! This has always been an issue for churches to keep people in the buildings. It is still going on today. It is having a major impact on churches local and world wide. Please keep in mind, the modern day worship and fellowship has it's origin based after (The Roman Church) not the examples of Christ, the Apostles or the 1st century believers. Here is where the rubber meets the road! Those who are comfortable with the way "Traditional church" has been operating are pushing to maintain and build back up the building. And the we have those who see it from the Biblical example are going in different directions. So... change has started and a Spiritual de-construction and re-construction is needed.
The solution and emphasis is not to refill the pews, or to get things back where they were before Covid. Nor is it to abandon all the church buildings and go strictly home and outside fellowships. We must find ways to be impactful in the community, get people connected with God in a real authentic way, meet them where they are on the job, at home, small groups, and in the community. We also need to have a central place to collectively worship, encourage and a storehouse. All while we are in the fields highway and byways. Ultimately getting to a place of a more biblical pattern as Holy Spirit leads.
@glover5589 you admit that the church building comes from the Roman Catholic Church but still cannot reject it. Don’t be afraid to say it, these buildings are not from the Lord and are unnecessary. They block people from seeing the Lord.
Love you Lecrae. I pray that the Lord continues to bless you and your music ministry. 🙏🏾
Being Black and in this space can be isolating. Thank you for making space for such an important conversation.
Poor victim
@@YahwehJesus777Yeah Jesus would not hang w u.
@ambo9569 Jesus does "hang" with me
Aw! Thank you for giving us all a real example to support my comment. Much appreciated, Kiddo!
@@thesyspace Did that comment really hurt your feelings? You need to hop off the internet if you think it's a hard place to be for anybody 😂
May my Mighty Lord and Savior Jesus Christ always bless you my brother. Thank you for your honesty in regards to the “Americanization” of the Christian faith. We can only trust our Lord Jesus Christ. We must love others and ourselves. The church is the body and fellowship of believers- that’s important. Yet, to spend time alone with our Lord Jesus- especially in prayer and reading his Word is even more important. God bless you my brother, Lecrae.
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"Deconstruction" = 1 Thessalonians 5:21. Amen... Awesome presentation brother! God bless you!!!
There is never a reason to leave the faith every time someone stops believing it’s not because of God or other Christians it’s because of you yourself
I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say BUT I hope you can understand that some people take a closer look at the bible (its content, it's genesis...)and this world and come to the conclusion that they're not the creation of an omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent god.
@@noname-dw9te it’s not the Bible or God that makes people not Christians it’s you the person
@@maxdeborde6772 you can't just repeat the statement lol, give me some arguments
Yup bending to the flesh
@@noname-dw9te sorry, looks like people aren't taking your concerns seriously, and i know that can be super frustrating
I Deconstructed Hip Hop and NEVER came back to it!!! People be careful with Deconstructing
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cool story bro
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Yes, well said. 100%
Amen 🙏🏽 Also, I don’t attend church, I gather house to house with believers and spread the Gospel. But Lacrae is doing what he accuses the church of, using spiritual things for monetary gain. He deconstructed to reconstruct and advertises it here to get money through his books and patreon. This is a hypocritical notion. Brethren, repent be baptized in the Name of Yehoshua HaMoshiach and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost Acts 2:38. Don’t fall for church lies and those trying to gain from you, gather with saints, preach the Gospel and be ready for the return of the Lord!!
Man bro you're music got me through as a young man in his 20s back in the early 2000's now I'm 40 barely coming back to listening to Christian music and seeking God after a 14 year detour. Very glad to see you're still here and have beat your own struggles. Salute !!
we had a retreat this weekend and we listened to coming in hot
best part of my weekend
Thank you so much Lecrae!!! I’d been feeling guilty for not wanting to go back to a physical church and felt like if my family knew I wasn’t going every Sunday they’d look down on me, even though we watch someone every week! Thank you so much 💛
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Hebrews 10:25…not throwing stones but it is Biblical to assemble together.
Hey homie…. I don’t think that’s what Lecrae was saying. Although the building is not the church, the people are. If you search the “one another’s in the Bible” you will get a list of how the word of God teaches us to serve, love, build up, etc.… One another. One of the reasons why the Bible says not to forsake the fellowship, as another person here commented on Hebrews 10.
Although watching a sermon online can be great, depending on who you’re watching, ha ha, but that can be a supplement, but not the main thing.
Let me know if you wanna chop it up more about this, I’d love to without any judgment
You need to go to church though... do not forsake the assembly. It’s a command. Not a recommendation
The New Testament was written in Greek. The Greek word for church is "ecclesia" which carries the meaning of an assembly or gathering. The early church gathered around the word, and fellowship (including the Lord's Table and breaking of bread together) and they sang psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs. Was the emphasis on the specific structure that they gathered in? No. But they gathered and did so regularly and often. The church is referred to as the Body of Christ and when we gather as a local church we become visible to the community and world around us. If you can gather for a concert, sporting event, movie, or party, how much more should you gather with God's people to worship Him? So find a local church and "assemble" with them.
Deconstruct meaning
to examine (something, such as a work of literature) using the methods of Deconstruction.
2: to take apart or examine (something) in order to reveal the basis or composition often with the intention of exposing biases, flaws, or inconsistencies
Love youuuu Lecrae. I respect your genuineness and not just the religious forgiveness concept. Which christians tend to do on a conceptual and logical level but not in the heart. I see you working things out in your heart and I respect that .
Never loose your faith even if your loosing yourself and the world is loosing itself. Just never loose your faith .... church, faith, the gospel and Jesus goes beyond the 4 walls of a building. It's important that no matter what church or walk of life always keep it Christ centered. I left a church that wasn't for me and found one that was more what I felt the holy spirit was sending me. Like you said lose your religion but find and keep your faith.
I'm here after hearing and listening attentively to your song "Deconstruction". I've heard it played on Pandora several times but it hit differently tonight. It's like God gave me understanding about some things through the lyrics. I can so relate to your story and I appreciate you for wrapping it up the way you did. Wow! I'm happy for you and proud of you for enlightening the believers on this topic.
Proverbs 3:5-6 Trus in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding. Deconstructing is going back to God in prayer and fasting not rebellion or depending on what you feel is right. The heart is deceptive. Your heart is deceptive
“Assembling of yourselves together” means meeting in a certain place.
I am there brother! After pastoring and helping to lead and building traditional church institutions for the last 14+ years, I am so ready for change. At this moment, I would be perfectly content to never be incorporated back into corporate religion that I was raised in. That might be the burnout and fatigue talking, yet it's sincere. But, hey, I get it, that you don't get it, if you don't get it. During this live streaming period during the COVID pandemic, I honestly don't know how many times I have said, that, "the building is not the Church." Thanks for sharing and God bless.
Deconstruct the RELIGION. Faith and Religion are NOT THE SAME at all, yet confused as one. I walked away from religion and my faith was strengthened. I will not go back to religion.
Heb. 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is;..... KJV
Forsaking: Greek Egkataleipo- Strongs: to leave behind... Thayer Definition: abandon, desert...
Assembling: Episunagoge- Strongs: a complete collection; a Christian meeting for worship:- assembling (gathering) together.
Thayer Definition: a gathering together in one place.
In the context of the scripture we are to meet together in one place to worship God and speak His word. We are encouraged to not forsake assembling as some do. Sadly today many do and have all kinds of excuses. We are not to make excuses but pray and ask God to send us to a place He wants us to go. Scripture says God sets the members in the body as it pleases Him but many go where it pleases them and when things get messy because of their choices they complain and blame God and everyone else. We must obey what He says.
There are different ways to do that, and sometimes people need a break for some reason or other. Abandonment is a permanent thing
"Deconstruction" seems to be more of a step back to right oneself before going back in
@@newpageindesc8998 well then right yourself find out by the Lord where to go and go. Jesus said shake the dust off and go to the next city, preach the kingdom. Matt. 13 says the angels will remove out of His Kingdom all who do iniquity. He knows theres evil in the church, sin in the church, liars backbiters wrongdoers in the church( His Kingdom).
Go to church cause He says so, take up our cross deny ourselves and follow Him. He never left cause His people are there, we must follow not run away for months and years. We must dust ourselves off, lick our wounds and go back in for Him. We are soldiers not AWOL without His permission. Who cares what people say, He didn't. He was about His Fathers business. When the apostles were thrown in prison for being about His business the angel set them free and even when they were warned nit to preach in His name they went right back in. He never left His church, even when we leave He remained.
My question to you Lecrae is why do you even call it deconstruction? why couldn't you just call it growth in the Lord. We are all called to growth in Christ (sanctification). As we grow, we are supposed to strip away all that doesnt align to Him and His word. and how does one who walks with Him intimately claim to desire to leave Him because of what others who call themselves Christians have done. Does a man leave his wife whom he has truly loved because of the actions of his in-law's?? if he does, won't you assume that he must not have loved her as a true husband should his wife? what if he says I only my wife to deconstruct, would that even make any sense at all? I'm simply saying that the word deconstruction in itself becomes really confusing when a believer uses it because it is a conundrum. not saying that it shouldn't be done because I know scripture makes it clear that not all who started with us will finish with us 1 John 2:19, just saying that when its done, even claiming a reconstruction proves you never valued the marriage like a true husband us supposed to to begin with.
“Growth in the lord” won’t get clicks
@@jtika1978 no he actually explains what he means by deconstruction in his book in which deconstruction is the accurate word in his case. It’s a really good book tho, you should read it
@@princechi1952 I’ve read his books
Honing your faith is a wonderful thing wonderful thing. You always have to make sure the sure that you are not picking and choosing what parts of The Bible you like. You have to make sure that you recognize about sin and grace equally. You either fully turn your life over to God and make him number one or you don't. Now how that will manifest itself in your life may be different for each person but if you put anything before God Realize that is the true thing you're worshiping.
Wait hold up…so @lecrae you “deconstructed” from the “money grabbing church institution” but in order to get this insight that you have about this topic people have to pay to get it on patreon, they have to buy your book, or subscribe to your monetized channel to get this insight? Why don’t you just make a video so that people can get this information for free? If you really care about what your taking about, Seems to me the only money hungry person is you….
That's because it is about fame and money for him. The self righteous usually leave the building because they can't relate to messy and brokenness. The assembly of believers, church leadership, elders, church discipline and accountability are all biblical and those who choose to leave the "building" usually don't want accountability. People like him don't want to fall under the full council of God because that means they have to submit to others and be held accountable.
Amen
Where in the bible did Jesus ever command anyone to "deconstruct"?
It sounds like Lecrae means unlearning false teachings when he says "deconstruct". Lecrae seems to be describing unlearning a man-made version of Jesus and building on the Biblical Jesus. Maybe "deconstruct" isn't the right word here. Maybe unlearning false teaching would be a better description. There's nothing wrong with making sure that our beliefs are founded on scripture. Doesn't the Bible warn us about false teachings?
@@healingthroughchrist1988 You are putting words into Lecraes mouth. That is not what he said whatsoever. If he had, there would be many many scriptures that he could have used to back him up. But just like Lecrae, does not think satanic rappers really mean what they do, and just do it for "shock value". That tells me exactly about the mentality of this man. He is playing part of the big deception in the church, in other words apostasy. We need to keep praying for Lecrae.
This is all nice and everything like that but I now believe that I've actually found what my purpose is on this earth for ✝️
In a short version I'm a soul winner for Christ 🕊️ I didn't have to loose my religion but I had lost a lot of "friends" I mean people who I thought would hold me down
In all actuality though people are plotting on my down fall I just believe that my family only see's me as a check walking 😅
Anyways God bless you brother Lecrae and you're beautiful family keep up with what your doing for the kingdom of God 🙏
The confusion about the word deconstruction is how it is being used. Some people are reassesing their faith as it souonds like Lecrae did and some are dismantling their faith as in the true definition of deconstructing with no plans on reconstructing it. They mean that they are leaving the Faith altogether. I think we need to be careful to not go with the trends of the world for any reason because it begins to blur the lines and weaker Christians may get lost in translation.
Deconstruction, in my opinion, always brings us back to truth. And we should always be evaluating our relationship with God.
Thank you Lecrae. Many are deconstructing after the Church’s response, or lack of, to the George Floyd incident and other social justice issues that Covid has pronounced. Any insight on this for those who are in this space?
There hasn’t been a large response because BLM is a self-proclaimed anti-Jesus, anti-family unit, marxist organization. They used witches and warlocks at protests as well. Bibles were burned too
I totally agree Yolanda. Their response really opened my eyes to somethings.
@Young D-FLY You do know that most blk Christians support the slogan but not the organization. 🤔
@@jasonbhatnagar7134 BLM an excuse IMO
Is this a joke
I don't understand why we have to suffer but in christ I will suffer cause i know he payed the way. I'm still standing strong believing when in times it's so hard to keep faith ..I had to learn to persevere and keep praying untill it comes to pass 🙏 cause I know it will I'll keep believing till my casket Drops ..
Even through this chemical war fair
Earthly destruction
And man made viruses..
Rebuilding for a better future
Still believe
This.
I been giving praise up walking this road not many would choose
You better make sure God is telling you to do it.. When I hear people saying I had to leave or I thought it best for me.. Even listening to him I didn't hear him say God lead him to do it..
Man's wisdom is not the wisdom of God..
Okay bro. We need to fellowship with the brethren not only on Sundays but every day.
"I LOST MY RELIGION, BUT I FOUND GOD... " (RIVER of JORDAN, ft. Breyen Isaac by LECRAE (#11SIX UNASHAMED! ;) :)
Hey, Lecrae I feel the same way right now. I feel like it is more about money than the service now. Honestly I wanna find a place that is REAL. Also at the same time I want the pastor there to use the scripture in context.
I’ve never been about the structures of church that men have built because I saw what it was doing to people… making people dependent on structures rather than Jesus… and all kinds of other mess…I didn’t call my process “deconstruction”. I was just recognizing the difference between what God had intended for church vs what man had adopted where the end result was denominationalism or institutionalized loyalty… and Instead I began placing much greater value on authentic relationships where the pursuit of Jesus within those relationships were the emphasis. Those were years I grew the most in the Lord because I wasn’t just warming a seat each week but an active “member” of the body of Messiah. We dug into the Word together, worshiped together, broke bread together, hashed out our differences of belief together, loved one another through all kinds of difficulties… I found a much better expression of Gods heart for the church. It was never about walking away from Jesus but about loosing myself from the external trappings of religious traditions that had nothing to do with Jesus.
I’ve been struggling with my faith lately and your story has really helped me. The merging of Christianity and trumpism, christians lacking empathy for others during the pandemic, Christians being hesitant to stand against racism and many other issues has really really bothered me… to the point of depression at times.
It feels like up is down and down is up, and almost feels like I’m grieving the faith community I thought I knew.
I’m thankful that my church is a healthy church, but they don’t often talk about these issues directly. It feels like the church is falling down around us, but we are not discussing anything. Anyone else experiencing any of this? I’m starting to doubt a lot more, and I’d love some encouragement if anyone’s got any.
@Lecrae thanks for sharing your story. It’s helping to keep me in the game right now.
"Deconstruction" seems, to me, like a nice term for "backsliding".
What can a christian "deconstruct" from?
We're either in the Light, or we're not!
There's nothing between those 2.
You should take a look at Alissa Childers on UA-cam. She often goes into deconstruction and how dangerous it is since it is shrouded in earthly ideologies based in critical theory. John Cooper from the band skillet also has a UA-cam channel and he goes into that. “Do not be confirmed to the patterns of the world but be transformed by s renewal of the mind.” Romans 12:2
My faith in God was only strengthened after I “deconstructed”, because for me that looked like realizing I’ve really only ever held most of my theological beliefs because that’s what I was expected to do, and I had been afraid to actually be willing to be wrong about some things. It was a painful process, but an important growing one.
The reformed evangelical community in particular has so much fear. I couldn’t even wonder out loud if one very specific interpretation of one specific verse was perfect without fear of being ostracized, no matter how small or relatively insignificant of an impact that interpretation had on my theology.
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I love both John Cooper and Alissa Childers.
Totally agree.
Love it! There is nothing wrong with Deconstruction. I think that I’m order for us boil the faith down to its purest form through the word, we have to skim off the transitions that are attached to them with. Nothing wrong with traditions but we need to separate them from the word
The main struggle every human being has is sin and that is everywhere. You can rebel against biblical authority and be a Christian. You can read the biblical and practice more biblical things but not deconstruct it.
This is the first of your videos I've ever seen, and now I'm a new subscriber. :)
I went through this from early 1988 until the end of my first year of Bible college in March 1989. On 30 March 1989 I rededicated my life to God and to serving and loving and worshipping and following Him, and haven't looked back. I still have times of re-examining things from time to time, mainly just to check on doctrine to make sure I have it right, or something else, but I will never walk away, no matter what. I've had some really, really tough times, and people have walked away for much less than some of the things I've gone through.
I'm praying for those who're going through this process right now, as well as who have in the past but walked away, and pray that they would return to the Lord or would stick with it, no matter what.
Thanks that you are praying for me. In return I will do the thinking for you. ;-)
Just be mindful of that Millstone that’s all I’ll say
Been thinking about this the past couple of weeks. Church is much bigger than the Sunday service. It’s people coming together around a table and encouraging one another in the Holy Spirit, welcoming and loving on strangers and outcasts. It’s the original “safe space” where all are welcome without judgement.
thank you so much for speaking on this topic! I'm so encouraged. :)
When I imagine Jesus having church I never pictured it in a building. I believe You are the church, your the body of Christ. So many Christians misrepresent the body of Christ that we all go through deconstruction. however not everyone can reconstruct themselves and continue to TRUST IN GOD. After losing faith in the church and other believers. Some people will Stop believing in God because of it. That's why having a personal relationship with God is the best thing you can do for yourself. His unconditional love will get you through any storm.
If any of the Christians here are actually interested in knowing why people have left the faith, find explanations from people who left the faith, not famous Christians. I recommend starting with the channels genetically modified skeptic, holy koolaid, and paulogia.
Everyone just needs to read Gods word. Don’t listen to anyone. Read read read. And when you don’t understand something. Read some more. This guy don’t have it all together in his understanding either. He’s in process as well. Read Gods word and let God speak.
Respect for even speaking about this. So often people brush this topic under the rug. Thank you for shedding light on it! 🙏
This "movement" will cost so many... church hurt needs to be healed. But deconstructing the foundation that is Christ Jesus isn't the way to God. Give God your pain. Go to Him for your hurting, everything else will fall into place. Let God be God. There is no other way.
I like your song Beautiful Feet and think it addresses the church issue very succinctly. Hebrews says not to stop meeting together, and when you mention wrestling with some churches, I felt that.
That was all right. If deconstruction meant abandoning Jesus, no longer connecting with him then it is not all right.
I have met people who are in it for people, the church meals , the power and they don't meet Jesus at all. Their faith consists of nothing.
I wouldn't even call American church fellowship. It's just sitting passively in a building listening to the same person talk. My life improved when I stopped attending a Sunday service and just made genuine connections with people that I met in everyday life. Afterall, God is omnipresent. And to be real the church is a group of people, not a building. Modern Christian churches are nothing but an idol, because the people that run them put more time, energy and focus (and money) on the building than the actual people in the building. People aren't leaving the faith. They are leaving the false idol. People don't leave a place that their needs are met.
I use to be an orthodox Christian but now I am a messianic Christian
On point! I've always said the biggest problem in the Christian faith is "Religion" itself.
So much respect for this response and video crae
50 years ago I said the Sinners Prayer and meant it. So, if there is a heaven, I am going there because of doctrine of eternal security. So even as I deconstruct it doesn't matter.???
Dylan said it best: "you think he's just an errand boy to satisfy your wandering desires"
I feel like this is a very generalized and even stereotypical view of what deconstruction and those taking those steps. Are there those who were hurt and chose to take this step? Absolutely. However, a large part of why is also missing.
I had no choice but to be a Christian. I attended a Fundamental Evangelical Baptist church that generations of my family attended. I went to the conjoining Christian school the pastor and deacons taught at. I then went on to attend a private baptist college. I’ve been a church planter and even went on international mission trips.
What drove me to deconstruct was actually a desire to learn more about God outside of what Pastprs and the church was teaching. I had questioned my faith since I was 7, asking pastors questions and then getting in trouble for asking these questions because it was rebellion. So I went on a journey to read the Bible from a chronological and historical standpoint. I also started attending therapy at this point due to some unrelated trauma.
The more I learned, the more I realized how much I was mislead and even lied to. Not just by church members who were now supporting a Presidential candidate that was antithetical to the Bible and everything I was taught but church culture as whole. Which then led to me realizing the abuse I went through.
I realized Christianity was not for me and then went through the deconstructing phase where I wanted to learn more of the why. Why are we told certain things are bad? Or are evil. The more I dug, the more I realized how much Christianity has historically and presently been used to as a tool for behavior control and justification.
Hes more worried about his money than his faith. Only lukewarm christian following lecrae.
This is the only deconstruction video that has brought clarity to me and did not leave me wanting to be "defensive". Thank you.
Where two or three gather in my name am in the midst, doesn't matter if you do in your house with your family or with neighbor or in a building. All a church, whether small or big. Your body is temple of the lord.
I have had mental health issues and still following Jesus. I have been deconstructing my faith. Yesterday I have everything to Jesus God you are amazing protect anyone who is trying to honor you but also looking to you to heal then from mental health issues anxiety panic attacks. Dad be with them and myself. God we don't wanna live in mental health trama for life I believe in miracles. Poor out your healing to those who need it including myself an any situation. Amen
Where is the idea of deconstruction in the Bible? If it is there where does repentance come in? 🤔
Reconstruction as in Reformation as in Renewal !!
▪︎Praise God !! ⚘ 🙏 🤗
I would petition that the Bible is prescriptive in believers gathering for corporate worship. Whether that be a small house church or a church building. Believers gathering together, submitting under godly church leadership to receive the Word and using their gifts for the benefit of others is sprinkled throughout the New Testament (Hebrews 10:24-25, Hebrews 13:17, Acts 2:42-46, 1 Corinthians 12:14-27, Ephesians 4:11-13). if not within a house church or church building where would pastors/elders, and deacons function?
You ant the only Crae I been their did that, I see where you are coming from. This is a very good subject 👏 it has to be talked about.
"Deconstruction is not deconverting! " Tell that to God when your standing there naked. He's not likely to agree.
Obummer kept saying WE WILL REBUILD. Now its BUILD BACK BETTER.
Me and my family recently deconstructed because our eyes have been opened and as a result, we've been able to hear the lord better and are still learning to trust him as we hear him more and more.
Had to fix those typos 🙄lol
Thanks for your intro to deconstruction. Different from leaving the faith.
If you keep your eyes on Jesus and not People you won't " deconstruct". Work out your soul salvation with fear and trembling because if you forsake God there is no guarantee you will make it back.
2 Peter 2:20-21 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
Hebrews 10:26-27 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Reading The Message translation has been helping me during my deconstruction process.
Jesus Christ is the truth and i am on a journey to have a faith that is rock solid unshakable unbreakable. a blade isnt strong unless its forged in fire. pain doubt faith being shaken or questioned only strengthen your faith and resolve in the end. i moved away from my faith in Christ for most of my life and it was lukewarm or a secondhand Christian. i pray for an unbreakable faith because of how weak my faith was built in blindness, in the time my faith has grown i cannot allow it to go back to that so i am trying to learn grow and change.
I feel it… it’s encouraging to hear “keep Jesus at the center”… I ain’t gon lie I still be slappin Real Talk, After the music Stops etc
Classic topic shout out to you Lecrae brother you are a inspiration fasho brother 🙏✊👌
Religious freedom is the best thing I have ever experienced! Live for the individual! And you will see tomorrow! Living others only for not to see a sun rise now or set later. Look for the moon! Look at the stars.
Ex-christian here.
I'm glad you're making this video. People forget there's a word for the process of leaving the faith: "Deconversion"
Whereas "Deconstruction" is just reducing your beliefs and practices to what you believe to be true, good, and authentic. The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive either. There's overlaps and grey areas, but realistically, the conceptual distinction is clear. We can know what we're talking about if we want to. But the corporate and white-supremecy influences within the faith don't want to anyone to know what you're talking about. Regardless of any belief or lack thereof, we should all certainly agree with this: when someone assumes the worst and you try to tell them otherwise, they should be relieved to hear it. However, if they get angry and deny what you say as "lies," then they're clearly not as concerned with your wellbeing as they are worried about their own narrative. Those you see doing this are not to be trusted or looked to for advice. They've already shown they're more worried about themselves than you.
You should indeed test what you build on your foundation(Jesus) but that does not mean you deconstruct it. You merely fix it and strengthen it.
I think more people should look into the Ethiopian Orthodox Church and See how their beliefs have held up. As far as I know, that branch of faith is closest to first century church.
I was gonna comment the exact same thing, Christianity isn't only a "Western European" religion.