Gilgamesh still deems you a mongrel socially because he is the true hero t despite saving the Indian types and Africans. Let’s stop pretending Africans are capable of civilization. They’re an act against the gods
In the poem, Gilgamesh didn’t just say no to Ishtar, he had a straight up roast session on her, and provided receipts from her past relationships. Bro destroyed her.
some notes: in some traditions ive seen, Gilgamesh eventually does settle down and has his own son as a result of Siduri's influence. Should also be mentioned that aside Enkidu who became his adopted brother , Gil did respect his parents and Siduri for their wisdom. Gil does seem to have a soft spot for some people when he became a servant as seen with his relationship with Hakuno (CCC/Extella) and Fujimaru (FGO)
His mood is heavily affected by the surroundings of the world he's summoned it. In F/Z, he's summoned in a modern world where abundance and overpopulation make everything looks worthless to his eyes, with a Master he barely acknowledged. In F/E CCC, the moon cell is a new world for him, a world far more enjoyable, and he appreciate Hakuno who rely on him but don't lick his boots. In F/GO, Chaldea is home to many heroes, plenty of whom he respect, and the organisation is trying to save the world against untold evil, this is paradise for him. In F/SF, he totally is in the same mood as in F/Z in the beginning, and don't respect that much his master, even if he acknowledge her devotion, but the moment he realize Enkidu is there too his mood goes far better, and he even start to appreciate his young master that support him as a follower rather than a master.
@@crash-testproductions9341As in F/SN is when he's at his worst. Everything that urked him about the modern era being amplified by the 10 years he spent waiting for the Holy Grail War to begin again. Combining that with whatever damage the Grail Mud left on his psyche after the 4th Grail War's conclusion, as well as having no one but someone as vile like Kotomine Kirei for company in those 10 years, no wonder he was so off the rails during the Fate and UBW routes. Meanwhile Sakura puts him out of his misery in HF before he could do anything to Shirou and co.
Reason for Hakunos treatment is likely because their an NPC, who recently gained free will. Basically a baby. He also literally told Tine to act childishly.
9:09 A) Heracles’s Nine Lives Noble Phantasm isn’t a weapon it’s a technique. Gilgamesh may have Heracles’s axe sword but that is not a named weapon it’s literally a chunk of marble fashioned from the pillar the einzburns used to summon him. B) Excalibur is not a weapon gilgamesh can bring out of the Gate. It’s a divine construct aka a weapon not made by humans but crafted from the planet that artoria is given permission to use.
Actually, correction on the first part. His Nine Lives is a technique, but Gilgamesh does own a prototype of his hydra bow which also has a functionally similar noble phantasm also called Nine Lives. However instead of martial art, Nine Lives is instead Nine Tracking rays from the bow that endlessly attack the target(s) until they are dead.
Fun fact: in Prillya Gilgamesh states that he also hates being spoiled of the future. But he has no control over his Clairvoyance and sometimes it activates itself giving him glimpses at the future.
@@mocha13the world in Miyu's timeline comes to an end with Pandora's Box being opened and I think it was around when they sent Illya back in time that Gil complains about it giving him "spoilers" of the outcome. His Clairvoyance was important with sending her back in time too. As much as the Counter Force didn't want to work with him iirc but it was the only way to save the planet.
It's also stated that his SNI can actually see the past present future and the reason why they have accurate coordinates on where they sent Ilya in the past.
one thing i've heard is that caster and archer gil are the same person, and the reason he acts differently is entirely due to the circumstances of where he is, in the grail wars he sees the future of mankind, his garden, at its worst and thus seeks to, in his own way, remove the weed and set it right, where as in FGO the babylonian singularity he's at his home, with people he's actually proud to lead, the future hasn't happened yet, so he fights for the future that hasn't yet gone bad, and thus is way nicer.
This is correct. I explained it in a little more detail on another comment. But it's not just the circumstances of where he is. The person summoning him, the purpose of the summoning, and the artifact used to summon, all play a part too. But it's also worth noting that the grail can also simply select a snapshot of the person in the Throne of Heroes, and in the case of Fate Stay Night Gil, it selected Archer Gilgamesh (so how he behaved before the events with the Herb).
a little bit of correction... Caster Gilgamesh is exclusive only to the events of the Babylonia Singularity in FGO. he distributed his melee weapons not because of his kindness, although he already was a benevolent king at this point, but instead because the weapons themselves were used as defense mechanisms (specifically as bullets for the Dingirs) against whatever the hell was happening in that Singularity remember that Singularities are points in history that are altered and should not have existed so Gil in his Caster version can only exist within this Singularity meaning that he definitely did NOT distribute his weapons in actual history. instead ALL the weapons in his treasury(except Ea and and the Chains of Heaven, of course) were scattered all over the world after his death. which in turn became the blueprints people needed to create the various Noble Phantasms that future heroes will use in their legends. this is also proven by the fact that mages will never be able to summon the Caster version of Gilgamesh because he doesn't technically exist. even if a mage uses the remnants of the skin from the snake that ate the herb, it's still going to be Archer Gil that comes out. he wasn't even really a "Caster" in babylonia, that's just what his character's class in the game is. he was still alive in Babylonia therefore he isn't a servant. and when he died and summoned himself AS a servant, who do we see?? Archer Gilgamesh of course.
You can summon "caster" gil. He just wont have the limitations caster Gil had in babylonia since those were limited as you say to that singularity. This is because servants can be summoned at different stages in life. If Gil is summoned when he is older (post enkidu death) his temperament will be his caster self. However when it comes to his abilities, they will be standard, Gil is incapable of reducing his wealth. Its beyond his control. THe gate of babylon post his death became isolated to a place similar to the throne of heroes, outside space and time and with measures like "collector EX" in place and Gils status as the first hero, he is incapable of reducing his items in the gate, they simply keep increasing. Remember those swords he threw away in fate zero? They were re-added into the treasury anyway. If you summon him in say fate strange fake, he would have them. And this is interesting, though Gil can not reduce the items, nothing says he can not add. This is seen with him showing interest in collecting Karnas Vasavi Shakti in one of those moon cell games. Its really broken. So if a mage summoned "caster" Gil. Yes he does qualify for the class, even Grand caster itself. You will get archer Gil interms of power and items but with different clothes and mindset or to be more specific patience. Its imo safer to summon Gil in this state since chances of him killing you are way less and you suffer no loss in fire power. He still has EA and sword spam + in this form he is fine with abusing his clairvoyance.
@@alispeed5095 well... yes... that's kinda the point regardless of what personality Gil has when he is summoned, he will still appear as an Archer not as a Caster. he is in fact qualified for 5 out of the 7 original classes (Assassin and Berserker are the ones he can not be) tha doesn't mean any mage can just summon him as a Saber or a Lancer. that's because he doesn't fight like the other 4 classes. the only reason he fought with the various staffs and spellbooks in Babylonia was because he literally did not have any other options since he disctributed his melee weapons as ammo for the dingirs so in a way that made him a "Caster" but again, he was still alive in the Babylonia Singularity so he wasn't even a servant. the reason Gil as a Caster is a game exclusive and can not be replicated in universe because it is quite literally impossible. just like you said. you can summon Gil with his personality as a "Caster" but he will NOT appear as a Caster because the throne literally does not have any records of him losing his melee weapons in canon history. so he will STILL appear as an Archer. also, being qualified for the Grand Caster slot isn't really that impressive... literally the only requirement is to have a very high rank in Clairvoyance... which is weird since one should be the pinnacle of using magecraft when in that position but sure futuresight alone is fine.. but Gil's unique Clairvoyance doesn't even matter that much since he barely uses it so it doesn't matter if he's a candidate or not, no mage is going to be able to summon him as a Caster because he just can't be one the throne just doesn't have any historical records of him acting as a Caster... honestly you'd have a better chance of summoning him as a Saber or Lancer because he did used to fight against and with Enkidu using melee combat (although even with that the chances for summing him as a Saber or Lancer or even Rider is still really low, you'd have better luck summoning in FGO's story banner) and I doubt he used bows for those but Caster??? please, Gil saw Enkidu start throwing weapons made from clay once and his first response was to yeet his own weapons back, ya think he'd have wasted his time reading magic books and casting long a$$ incantations???
Not necessarily. Remember that the Throne of Heroes exists outside of time completely. And it _can_ make interesting decisions. Recall that among the Knights of the Round Table, it is said that Sir Bedivere was the only one not to be recorded into the Throne because he had no great fame and legends to his name. _However._ After the events of the Camelot Singularity, that specific version of Bedivere was recorded into the Throne in recognition of his heroic actions within that Singularity. In much the same way, Caster Gil from Babylonia could also have been recorded as a Gilgamesh that qualifies for the Caster class. He was classed as such because while he never studied magecraft, the magic staves and tablets that remained within his treasury were powerful enough to compensate. And he _did_ possess enough mana to summon eight Servants prior to the arrival of Chaldea. The main reason he did little during those events until the climax was because he was still recovering the mana he spent. And upon succumbing to the wound he took for Fujimaru, he used his own body as a catalyst to summon himself from the Throne of Heroes in his prime so that he could use the full force of his treasury against Tiamat. Including Ea.
@@Lobomaru02 hmm that thing about Bedivere is true. but... wow this actually complicates things if the throne does in fact take into consideration, feats from non-canon history like singilaries then wouldn't pseudo-singularities like the events of the Epic of Remnant and Lostbelts count too?? for example.. Nebuchadnezzar II using Gil's body during the Beast Nero event. since technically speaking that is an alternative version of the Babylonia Singularity and A Singularity.. would it be possible then to summon Nebuchadnezzar in Gil's body using a relic from Gil's legend? it is Gil's body the personality however is just that of a different person.. or how about summoning Gilgamesh using any relic related to Nebuchadnezzar?? this is just got more confusing tbh
Nope. Gil corrected Kingu when he made that claim. Gil said something along the lines of "I remember when the idea originally fkashed in my mind it was ridiculed as waste of time'
There are three versions of Gilgamesh: Child - the innocent young king who had yet to master his powers, and gather his treasurers Archer - Gilgamesh in his prime, the almighty arrogant king that will become known as the "King of Heroes" Caster - the more mature and wise version of Gilgamesh, that became a more kind and "righteous" king... A wise king
@@Animebryan2because he should be the grand ruler if anything. But he's also a candidate/eligible for grand caster since clairvoyance ex is the requirement
In the actual epic he was trained in every weapon they had at the time, and proto gil follows this where he is a master of close combat, while also using a bow as archer.
I completely forgot about that! I really hope that route gets reanimated one day. UBW is my favourite, but I know a lot of people love the Saber route.
@@mocha13 Me as well, I think there's a lot it offers that the other routes don't, and perhaps more importantly it would settle the "where to begin" debate.
@@bluebearie7230 You're Factually Incorrect in VN he said it himself. Avalon is The strongest Defense not even all True Magic Can penetrate it bro just stop coping.
To me Gilgamesh is someone I see as my hero when I first read about him he just feels so human compared to all the other stores about heroes. Also I would like to know the Story Of Creation if you would make it that would great, also you did a great job with this video.
Thanks a lot! I'll try my best to make a video on the Story of Creation but I have a few other videos in the works so it might take a little while, bare with me please!
Hero or Human, chose one. Hero are figure to be dream of. Human are those who can be relate to. Personally, I don't dream of being as coward as him, or relate to the crime he did.
Gil also has nine lives which is not a version of Heracles' technique but a weapon version in the form of a ballista (has appeared in fate kailed). BTW the reason why Gilgamesh's weapon is stronger than the other hero versions is because Gilgamesh's weapon has a higher mystery and generally in the nasuverse the higher the mystery an object has, the stronger it will be. Sorry for my messy english
I hadn't considered the mystery aspect of the weapons. It might make for an interesting topic in future Fate videos. Thanks! (And your English is great btw)
@@luksalter8200 Also his weapons dont degrade unlike those owned by heroes which do degrade, some extremely so depending on legend. Take gram? its been broken and reforged in legend. Not the version Gil owns though :) Also a hero can have a legend say gae bolg where in said legend the spear is nerfed massively by a witch, if Cu is summoned, that nerf in his legend will reflect on the gae bolg he is summoned with. However this would not be true for the gae bolg Gil owns. It would be as fresh as when it was first made.
David Vincent is one of the rare cases where the English VA is just as good as the original Japanese VA imo. He does such a great job at making Gilgamesh sound like the arrogant gigachad that he is.
Very awesome video, and loved how you emphasized the value of their friendship 😎 It was epic when they both called out their attack at the same time, you can see the fun these two have even in the heart of battle
Now this, this is a great video. I'm first and foremost amazed by how well edited the video was, and how well you actually narrated Gilgamesh's story. I felt like you could've "elongated" some parts a little bit more, but that is not to say that the video was not good, quite the contrary, seeing as this is genuinely one of the best videos I've seen both cover Gil and his story. You managed to get a lot of information across whilst also explaining it in a comprehensive manner, which is something I respect. I'd also like to comment on the great choice of music which made the video feel all the much better. So Great job! You've gained a new subscriber, because you quite frankly deserve more (F the YT algorithm)
This actually made me tear up, thank you so much! (Also I'm glad you liked the music because I spent more time than I'd like to admit picking out songs that would "fit" lol)
First, he doesnt have Excalibur, that is a weapon unique to Artoria, second what he has is the prototype of caliburn the sword in the stone artoria takes to become king. Finally, gate of babylon has all the treasures of humanity, so anything that humanity can create, so there are exceptions, like Excalibur and its sheath Avalon, he doesnt have that, he doesnt have divine constructs(except Ea, and stuff unique to his legend and babylon), like some heroes have, or things unique to each hero, like heracles god hand.
He has divine constructs it's just that Excalibur is a special case where it's THE divine construct that can only be given to one person at a time, thus the Owner is Arthur and no one else, and other divine constructs like Vasavi Shakti are never actually used, thus they exist, but can't be found as their description is limited to just "it exists".
I been dying to find this kind of video thats literally tell a story about Gilgamesh from fate but in Epic of Gilgamesh format in this platform glad finally someone had a ball to do it. 1 subs.
The interesting thing about Gilgamesh is that he isn't much of a hero. He started out as a benevolent and wise king, but he became arrogant and had to be chastised by the gods, that's why Enkidu was created. He's rather cowardly, without Enkidu goading him he wouldn't have dared to do the 'heroics' he wanted to do to become famous, all of his 'quests' basically ended in failure, in the end, he doesn't really accomplish anything he sets out to do. He's not a hero for his deeds or character, he's a hero for the knowledge he brought back from his failed quest. A lot of it rather seems like a humbling tale for his arrogance towards the gods, for which he is punished severely, misremembered today as a heroic tale. His deeds were ultimately for his own vanity and it cost him everything. At least that's his story in the epic of Gilgamesh, his most famous surviving record.
Oh wow. I'll be honest, I didn't know a lot of that. It's certainly an interesting take. Though I will say that, in my opinion, learning from one's failures is one of the greatest things a person can do. Of course, it's quite unlike the Gil we know, but I suppose that's what makes it so interesting. Thanks for teaching me something!
Everyone says that Gilgamesh began to use his GoB the way he uses it as we normally see because of what he saw Enkidu firing off weapons but we are told right after Kingu says that Gilgamesh responded by saying that was a lie as Enkidu remarked him doing that was “The perfect waste of mana of an arrogant king” or something along those lines.
i freaked out when i first saw "The Epic Of Gilgamesh" in one of my school books and now we're learning about it, this also helped a bit in my studies, thanks!
9:03 Gilgamesh does not possess Excalibur in his treasury. Gate of Babylon contains every single piece of man-made weapon ever created, but Excalibur is a Divine Construct, not a man-made weapon. In general, while he does possess a few of his own, Gate of Babylon does not include Divine Constructs such as, as mentioned, Excalibur, Karna's Vasavi Shakti nor his Armor etc. Also... Nine Lives is not a weapon (the "True Nine Lives" Kid Gil pulls out in Illya is... whatever, and exclusive to Prillya which is known to just do and be its own thing within the Nasuverse). Nine Lives is a technique Herakles came up with by himself, and as such Gilgamesh can't possess it
Yep. I'll be sure to correct these things in future videos. Funnily enough, the excalibur comment might be brought up sooner rather than later (hint hint).
It may include the Vasavi Shakti, gil just doesn't know if he has it since it was never used in life, but it is possible he has the lance itself but doesn't know which lance it is.
@@ryuhardt In fact, the only requirement to be in the GoB is to be made OR owned by mankind, when it was made and by whom it doesn't matter, ''Regardless of what end he met, the fact remained that Uruk flourished as a nation of magnificent splendor under the rule of Gilgamesh. His vault was said to contain all of the works of gods and men, and it was rumored that they were the original versions of all Noble Phantasms used by heroes of later ages.'', ''Dozens, hundreds, thousands of Noble Phantasms came raining down onto the man standing in the center of the tornado. At times, they were blades, at times they were knowledge, at times they were pain. There had been a long sword that slayed an oriental dragon. There had been a demonic sword that brought ruin. There had been a spear that killed heroes. There had been lightning without form. The originals of all the Noble Phantasms humanity had obtained or created were propelled unsparingly. A hellish rain spun by mankind was fired in all directions in 360 degrees.'', ''The story of Gilgamesh - mankind oldest hero - was imitated in the mythology of countries all over the world. The starting point of every legend, the model of all heroes..... it probably wouldn't be an exaggeration to say it like that. To a greater or lesser extent, the heroes of various myths have derived from Gilgamesh's legend. Therefore, it has been arranged so that Gilgamesh possesses the prototypes of the Noble Phantasms that all heroes carry..... the treasure of foundation from before each and every myth was arranged. This is a paradox, but because without Gilgamesh - as the original - holding them, the Noble Phantams will not be handed down to the hands of the heroes of thereafter - as the expansions'' So yeah until proven otherwise, Gil has the prototype of excalibur and any other weapon being divine or not, there are exceptions of course but it has to be proven that they are not, Gil just having weapons made by humans is headcanon
Great job! Editing was A tier. The narration was smooth. Writing was a great balance of jokes and drama. Keep up the great work! The subs and fans will come.
An outstanding video, you captured all the aspects of what made Gilgamesh such a compelling and complex character but I would like to point out some misconceptions mentioned in the video. 1. As stated by many others, the Gates of Babylon only stores weapons/treasures pertaining to Humanity, it doesn't hold Divine Constructs nor does it have any foreign/alien weapons(Altera's sword as an example). Though there are exceptions, like the Prototype Weapon, Merodach: The Original Sin, the Prototype of Caliburn, the original sword in the stone. The reason why Excalibur is a Divine Construct is because it was forged by the Lady of the Lake and was given to Artoria. 2. Ea, or Enuma Elish is considered as an Anti-World, not an Anti-Universe Noble Phantasm. But it doesn't mean it can destroy the world, no. Far from it, as DaVinci said during the Pseudo-Singularity, Shinjuku, there is not a single Noble Phantasm possessed by a Servant that can destroy the world. Anti-World refers to being able to destroy the texture of the world but not the planet. If you were referring to his Fate/Extra CCC variant, where he's been buffed to even surpass BB. It isn't an ideal way to scale his power since that is a one-time buff that could severely damage the Servant's Spirit Origin. Still, it was a good video! You earned a sub and I'll be waiting for more Fate Analysis videos.
Thanks a lot! Appreciate the criticism, hopefully you enjoy the next few Fate videos! But they take a lot of effort so you might have to wait a week or two lol
That davinci statement is always taken out of context even by you. "No Np can destroy the world....... because counter measures ie COUNTER FORCE exist to prevent such things" We have things like Rhongominiad working to hold the textures together and maintain balance. However, weapons that have capacity to destroy the world exist. In a world where the counter force has been neutralized you can easily destroy the world. Look at Goddess rhongo in camelot. She had the ability to do it. Then we have arjuna alter who was casually doint it coz said counter measures were inactive in his Lostbelt. And YES, the counter force can be blind sided if you have the smarts and power to pull it off. Magicians for instance have the potential to. Its hard but to destroy the world, the defenses need to be turned off first.
@@alispeed5095 With backreading, I can confirm that there truly exists Noble Phantasms that can end the world, but most are examples of their living counterparts. The only instance we've seen a Servant close to destroying the Planet would be James Moriarty. Though it was an unconventional method which involved transforming an asteroid into a magic bullet, and having fused with the Freeshooter, Der Freuschtz. While yes, destroying the Planet's core itself would end the world, but there are no other examples that seem plausible. As Holmes stated in Shinjuku, " ...It's not possible to destroy the world. Goetia's objective may have been different, but his plan still took 3,000 years to come to fruition. However, it IS possible to remove the world from history. In other words... "[1] Though your statement does have a semblance of truth. " It is true that with the world divided, Earth's safeguards would fail to work. Nonetheless, destroying the entire planet should remain utterly unfathomable. "[2] While yes, destroying the World(Gaia), but the term is complicated as it refers to The Planet, Gaia, and the Counter Force. Although, going back with the examples of Goddess Rhongomyniad and Arjuna Alter, both are examples of their living selves, not their servant forms. The same could be said for Gilgamesh, in his prime, that is his living self he was capable of destroying the world with ease. As a servant, he cannot do so, the only thing he can do is destroy its textures. In Arjuna Alter's case, yes, he is indeed shown capable of destroying the planet to nitpick and exterminate any defectives in his lostbelt. But again, that is a living breathing god that consumed all other gods of Indian myth, and it still takes him about hours or maybe a day to recharge and be able to do so again. "When Arjuna Alter is summoned as a Servant of Chaldea, he is not able to wield the sword to its full extent. That said, if limited and condensed, the destruction it causes is equal to that of Pashupata and Arjuna seems to find its ease of use in that form to be sufficient."[3] So yes, I do agree that it IS possible, it just needs an extreme amount of resources and energy to do so. I'll edit my statement above to be more clearer. Sources: [1,2] Quanrantined Territory of Malice, Shinjuku. Speudo-Singularity [(1999 AD)] -- Section 11. [3] Fate/Grand Order material VIII - Arjuna Alter, profile translated by SeasonalTea and Smoof
A well edited video?. Accurate historical info?. Talking about a hero from my land? (Iraq). You have no idea how happy I was while watching this video, thank you my friend you really made my day. P.s : Sorry if my English is not good, since it is not my mother language.
Wow thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Your comment is really motivating and it makes me want to work even harder to make better videos, so thanks once again! (And your English is great!)
A bit of a correction, Gil doesn't have Excalibur in Gate of Babylon, he has the predecessor of Caliburn the sword of selection Merodach of the Norse myth, Excalibur, Avalon and Rhonogomyniad, three of Saber's strongest Noble Phantasms are not within GOB because these are divine creations. Although it was mentioned in Strange Fake that he uses Merodach to see if an opponent is worthy of Ea or not, Caliburn and Merodach are similar in fire power and both can function as Holy Swords but both are not as powerful as Excalibur. Excalibur in some myths is said to be created from Caliburn but in some others it was not the in Fate has nothing to do with Caliburn, it is a different sword thus having no prototype.
Quite late to the party but just a note: Excalibur is actually not in Gilgamesh's GOB because Excalibur was a sword forged by earth itself to be the protector of its greatest threats, Gilgamesh owns all of humanity's weapons so it excludes some of the weapons that humanity didn't make, sidenote that's why Excalibur has restrictions, it can only be used to the fullest potential when the enemy is a bigger threat to the earth itself, not much is known on Artoria's Excslibur restriction but you can see Proto-Saber's one which unlocks itself if the threat fulfills the conditions
Keep in mind that Servants are basically the equivalent of Naruto's Shadow Clone Jutsu. The Servant Gilgamesh we see was merely a copy created by the Grail in order to be used as a sacrifice. The Heroic Spirit Gilgamesh residing in the Throne of Heroes is far far more powerful.
In Fate Gil returned and collected some herb of immortality after loosing the first portion. In Fate strange fake he gives potion from this herb to his subordinate.
There is just two more parts to Gilgamesh’s story in Fate… and that takes us to the end of the world and the moon. I don’t know the moon part too well but I can say that, after the world was destroyed, he was summoned by the Last Master of Humanity to a place called Chaldea. There, he spent his time with well over a hundred different servants and, of course, one of them was Enkidu. They met again. And this time, they had plenty of time to catch up as saving the world came about pretty slowly.
By Type-Moon rules more Time = more Mystery = Stronger. Prototypes predate otiginals making them have more Mystery. It's like with Siegfrieds sword Balmung, which was later wielded by his wife. His wifes using Noble Phantasm Balmung (even has a different name) is likely slightly lesser than Siegfrieds, but not by a significant amount. But the one Gilgamesh has would have thausands of years over Siegfrieds, making it have more Mystery. Though he only has all weapons of Human origin. The Reverse side being considerdd to be another world. Karnas Lance is literally stated to not be in Gilgamesh's treasury. Excalibur, which was likely in Avalon at the time should also not be in his treasury. Also while Archer Gilgamesh killing Tiamat alone would be impossible. Tiamat can continue living as long as there are living beings in the world, he would have needed at the very least Ereshkigals help.
Archer Gilgamesh can't defeat Tiamat or any matured Beast like her. Beast class or Evils of humanity can beat even the serious Gilgamesh but as long they reach full maturity. What make the Beast class so powerful and dangerous is they can literally cheat the system, this power is called the nega-skill plus their own unique traits and other broken skills. Tiamat's nega-skill is called nega-genesis, which allows her to recreate the universe and any servant(with the exception of few) would get insta-kill. This is how important the Grand servants are, their purpose is to counter the Beast class and give humanity a fighting chance. Fun fact. Gilgamesh can qualify as a Grand Caster due to his broken clairvoyance. People tend to underestimate Caster Gil but the dude can also cheat the system like temporarily changing his saint graph into his archer self. To describe the context of the fight. Tiamat was constantly holding back, she developed this kind of passive skill because of her love for humanity. In other words she was contradicting herself because of her very twisted motherly love. Which means if Tiamat stop holding back the protagonist's group would never win and her mud will engulf the entire world. King Hassan technically did half of the job like giving advice that would help the protagonist, giving the tablet of destiny back to Gilgamesh, cutting her wing to prevent her from returning to the land of the living, making Tiamat killable and also causing her spirit origin to vulnerable as normal servant. Because of that, the rules of underworld was able to be fully applied to Tiamat making her even weaker. Not to mention Merlin and Ereshkigal buffing the entire team. Though Gilgamesh is still a vital part in defeating Tiamat because he had the firepower to fully destroy Tiamat's body. Though Tiamat didn't fully died because her soul is still in the imaginary numbers/another dimension. And she had a change of hearts and she is kind enough to send her servant self to help humanity and preserve the world.
The fact that Ea was unable to be traced by EMIYA/Shirou is crazy, because they're supposed to be able to instantly copy any weapon they gaze upon Also, in SF, Gilgamesh states his fight with Enkidu should have lasted 3 days and nights, and pretty much everyone is shocked by the damage, even most servants
Nah. Shirou can trace the concept of melee weapon. Ea is not a melee weapon, not even a weapon since it's a tool to make the planet in the first place. It function is not to kill. Shirou mistakenly think it's a weapon and try to read it, thus he failed.
@@ancy1205 Dude what? No. He can trace a fucking pipe and a heater. He can trace tools. You see him do it all throughout the beginning of F/SN. He can also PROJECT tools and regular items. Proof? Heaven's Feel. Quote: "……Fine. I guess if I'm going to correct you, we'll have to start with the fundamentals. But let's go back to what we were talking about earlier. Is it true that the things you projected are still in your shed?” “Yeah. Things don’t normally go away unless you break them, right?” No, Ea is just that absurd.
@@DJVevyVevs he cant. He can imitate the shape but they are all hollowed. And he reinforce the pipe. Not trace it. Same reason why he have to fold the poster and reinforce it instead of tracing an actual metal pipe to ready for Cu.
@@ancy1205 I personally disagree, but even if that were the case that doesn't change the fact that he's fully capable of tracing tools. Sure, he didn't recreate a pipe. He did, however, trace it and understand its physical components. He did the same thing with the heater and did so multiple times before the story. That's why he was so good as a handyman around the school.
@@DJVevyVevs if it not a sword, he can analyze it structure. But NP abilities does not come from any structure or mechanism, but from mystery, history and legend. Hence, other mage can project ordinary object but not NP, which is the crystalization of legends. Shirou version of tracing is special, but it only apply to sword or relate concepts. Dont get me wrong, his scanning ability is good even if he is not the only one who can do it. And will help him alot should he decide to study mystic codes like a normal mage.
Epic video, that description was simple and easy to follow yet described the beauty of The Epics Of Gilgamesh to the best... At one point u said that EA as especially Archer Gil's weapon.. why so? well we've seen Caster Gil use it too... so I was just curious...
Thanks! The reason for Ea, specifically being Archer Gilgamesh's weapon and not Caster Gilgamesh's weapon was mainly due to the nature of the weapon and the difference in character between Archer and Caster Gil. For example, both Ea and Melammu Dingir have destructive capabilities, but Melammu Dingir is used as a defense mechanism to protect Uruk whereas Enuma Elish is usually purely offensive, and I personally attribute that to the differences between Archer and Caster Gil. It wasn't to say that Ea isn't Caster Gil's weapon, but more so that it it's Archer Gil's weapon that Caster Gil still happens to possess, and has the ability to use if he so wishes. I would've been more clear on that but uhm... I forgot lol.
@@jeffreyherrera5069yeah, caster gil sealed EA (thats why he brean the seal in FSF) and the reason in babylonia why gil used EA is because he summoned his archer form to end the story
A correction on gate of Babylon, he has a lot of prototype noble phantasms, but he doesn't have divine constructs, he has a select few but not all, and techniques/spells like nine lives or Sherlocks np.
One point I want to add, in Fate/Zero, I believe Iskandar (Rider) reminded Archer Gilgamesh of his friend Enkidu. Gilgamesh seems to respect Iskandar a great deal and the most outta any other character in that series. As someone as arrogant as him, his quote “its been ages since I’ve laughed at gibberish sprouted by someone who is not a fool” says a lot about Iskandar, he then brought up his comrade (Enkidu) stating he is all he intends to have. In a sense, this quote can be seen as he was comparing Iskandar and Enkidu. Afterwards, his killing blow to Iskandar was a stab by his most prized weapon Ea which he wouldn’t even allow others see. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, Enkidu was actually described to be a beast man who’s strength matched Gilgamesh’s. Unfortunately Enkidu in the Fate series took on a more feminine design cuz well it sells better.
Trying my best. I’m still new to editing and making videos so it’s difficult to make a lot of these types of videos, but I’ve got some in the works that’ll be out not-so-soon. Glad you enjoyed it!
Also confirmed that all the Gilgamesh versions have access to all the same memories, but each has their own perspective on them. Kid Gil: Hates what he's going to become Teen Gil: Doesn't care Adult Gil: Experienced all of it.
One correction, Gilgamesh didn't find the Herb of immortality, but the Herb of Youth after talking to Utnapishtim, he gave him a tip where Gilgamesh can find it. Utnapishtim was also the guy who revealed that there isn't such thing as an herb of immortality. He just got immortal because of the flood that he survived, similar to the biblical Noah. Written down in the Atrahasis-Epos. Still good video. I had fun watching it.
Was expecting a mention of Proto Gilgamesh and his twin swords that change into a Bow and shoots an arrow that acts as a beacon for a missile from space.
His gate of Babylon does have something that can be considered the prototype of Excalibur. As long as hero have a weapon use. Gilgamesh will have something that can be consider a prototype of that weapon, because he is the first hero. Without him having it, later hero won’t have that weapon. However his prototype are not consider be consider divine construct and usually weaker compare to the divine construct part. Example Vajra and the divine version use by divine spirit are not being label divine construct even though it was use by gods. Indra, Kama, Vritia, and god of Buddhism in nasuverse. Summer raikou vajra was A+ rank and not label divine construct and all of them have their own difference in appearance. Also in nasuverse he went back for the herb of immortality to finish his collection.
"I will tell you of the beginning Heaven and Earth split, nothingness congratulated creation and my sword cleaved the world! Mortar of the stars, heaven's hell is the eve of creation's celebration!" "I will awaken the breath of the planet, for I walk with humanity" Gilgamesh and Enkidu both have an NP of the same name, but from two completely different perspectives. Gilgamesh's describes the creation of reality, while Enkidu's is derived from the planet's own will of survival.
Gilgamesh was Nimrod or some say his son. So the grandson of the accursed Ham, son of Noah. So this certainly _would_ be one of the very 1st written documentation of the new beginning.
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Gilgamesh still deems you a mongrel socially because he is the true hero t despite saving the Indian types and Africans. Let’s stop pretending Africans are capable of civilization. They’re an act against the gods
@@adaloph_theheretic.2506 In his name twice, at that.
my favourite fate gilgamesh fun fact is that he went back and got the herb of immortality for a second time just to add it to his vault
If dying was the most human thing he could do, being petty was the second xD
Hoarder
gotta complete the collection
@@rokoyomitbf most gods tend to also be extremely petty, at least in tales told of them. They do say man is made in their image.
Gilgamesh be like:I am the only true king so I must have everything in my vault
In the poem, Gilgamesh didn’t just say no to Ishtar, he had a straight up roast session on her, and provided receipts from her past relationships. Bro destroyed her.
13:40 - 13:43 That meme was quite the hoot adding the fact that he chose "bros over hoes"
so he destroyed her without destroying her apparently. 💀
"his greatest treasure is the friend he made along the way" Literally, lol
that why he tried to become immortal. scared of death by age
some notes: in some traditions ive seen, Gilgamesh eventually does settle down and has his own son as a result of Siduri's influence. Should also be mentioned that aside Enkidu who became his adopted brother , Gil did respect his parents and Siduri for their wisdom.
Gil does seem to have a soft spot for some people when he became a servant as seen with his relationship with Hakuno (CCC/Extella) and Fujimaru (FGO)
His mood is heavily affected by the surroundings of the world he's summoned it. In F/Z, he's summoned in a modern world where abundance and overpopulation make everything looks worthless to his eyes, with a Master he barely acknowledged. In F/E CCC, the moon cell is a new world for him, a world far more enjoyable, and he appreciate Hakuno who rely on him but don't lick his boots. In F/GO, Chaldea is home to many heroes, plenty of whom he respect, and the organisation is trying to save the world against untold evil, this is paradise for him. In F/SF, he totally is in the same mood as in F/Z in the beginning, and don't respect that much his master, even if he acknowledge her devotion, but the moment he realize Enkidu is there too his mood goes far better, and he even start to appreciate his young master that support him as a follower rather than a master.
he gives hakuno a special service by being naked in every game they appear together.
He even as far as sacrificed 90% of his treasures to save Hakuno in the ending.
@@crash-testproductions9341As in F/SN is when he's at his worst. Everything that urked him about the modern era being amplified by the 10 years he spent waiting for the Holy Grail War to begin again. Combining that with whatever damage the Grail Mud left on his psyche after the 4th Grail War's conclusion, as well as having no one but someone as vile like Kotomine Kirei for company in those 10 years, no wonder he was so off the rails during the Fate and UBW routes. Meanwhile Sakura puts him out of his misery in HF before he could do anything to Shirou and co.
Reason for Hakunos treatment is likely because their an NPC, who recently gained free will. Basically a baby.
He also literally told Tine to act childishly.
9:09 A) Heracles’s Nine Lives Noble Phantasm isn’t a weapon it’s a technique. Gilgamesh may have Heracles’s axe sword but that is not a named weapon it’s literally a chunk of marble fashioned from the pillar the einzburns used to summon him.
B) Excalibur is not a weapon gilgamesh can bring out of the Gate. It’s a divine construct aka a weapon not made by humans but crafted from the planet that artoria is given permission to use.
Yep that's my bad. I'll probably correct those things in future videos where I cover Artoria's and Hercules' lore.Thanks!
to be fair, i believe kid gil once pulled heracles' bow out and used nine lives with it, tho it manifested as lasers if i recall
Actually, correction on the first part. His Nine Lives is a technique, but Gilgamesh does own a prototype of his hydra bow which also has a functionally similar noble phantasm also called Nine Lives. However instead of martial art, Nine Lives is instead Nine Tracking rays from the bow that endlessly attack the target(s) until they are dead.
Also while Gil doesn't have Excalibur he does have Caliburn, the sword pulled from the stone to show Arthur as the one true king of Britain
@@silver2347 Well, he has the prototype which is superior to both Gram and Caliburn
Fun fact: in Prillya Gilgamesh states that he also hates being spoiled of the future. But he has no control over his Clairvoyance and sometimes it activates itself giving him glimpses at the future.
Oh wow, I didn't know that. Very in line with his character lol.
@@mocha13the world in Miyu's timeline comes to an end with Pandora's Box being opened and I think it was around when they sent Illya back in time that Gil complains about it giving him "spoilers" of the outcome.
His Clairvoyance was important with sending her back in time too. As much as the Counter Force didn't want to work with him iirc but it was the only way to save the planet.
It's also stated that his SNI can actually see the past present future and the reason why they have accurate coordinates on where they sent Ilya in the past.
one thing i've heard is that caster and archer gil are the same person, and the reason he acts differently is entirely due to the circumstances of where he is, in the grail wars he sees the future of mankind, his garden, at its worst and thus seeks to, in his own way, remove the weed and set it right, where as in FGO the babylonian singularity he's at his home, with people he's actually proud to lead, the future hasn't happened yet, so he fights for the future that hasn't yet gone bad, and thus is way nicer.
This is correct. I explained it in a little more detail on another comment. But it's not just the circumstances of where he is. The person summoning him, the purpose of the summoning, and the artifact used to summon, all play a part too. But it's also worth noting that the grail can also simply select a snapshot of the person in the Throne of Heroes, and in the case of Fate Stay Night Gil, it selected Archer Gilgamesh (so how he behaved before the events with the Herb).
a little bit of correction... Caster Gilgamesh is exclusive only to the events of the Babylonia Singularity in FGO. he distributed his melee weapons not because of his kindness, although he already was a benevolent king at this point, but instead because the weapons themselves were used as defense mechanisms (specifically as bullets for the Dingirs) against whatever the hell was happening in that Singularity
remember that Singularities are points in history that are altered and should not have existed so Gil in his Caster version can only exist within this Singularity
meaning that he definitely did NOT distribute his weapons in actual history. instead ALL the weapons in his treasury(except Ea and and the Chains of Heaven, of course) were scattered all over the world after his death. which in turn became the blueprints people needed to create the various Noble Phantasms that future heroes will use in their legends.
this is also proven by the fact that mages will never be able to summon the Caster version of Gilgamesh because he doesn't technically exist. even if a mage uses the remnants of the skin from the snake that ate the herb, it's still going to be Archer Gil that comes out.
he wasn't even really a "Caster" in babylonia, that's just what his character's class in the game is. he was still alive in Babylonia therefore he isn't a servant. and when he died and summoned himself AS a servant, who do we see?? Archer Gilgamesh of course.
You can summon "caster" gil. He just wont have the limitations caster Gil had in babylonia since those were limited as you say to that singularity. This is because servants can be summoned at different stages in life. If Gil is summoned when he is older (post enkidu death) his temperament will be his caster self.
However when it comes to his abilities, they will be standard, Gil is incapable of reducing his wealth. Its beyond his control. THe gate of babylon post his death became isolated to a place similar to the throne of heroes, outside space and time and with measures like "collector EX" in place and Gils status as the first hero, he is incapable of reducing his items in the gate, they simply keep increasing.
Remember those swords he threw away in fate zero? They were re-added into the treasury anyway. If you summon him in say fate strange fake, he would have them. And this is interesting, though Gil can not reduce the items, nothing says he can not add. This is seen with him showing interest in collecting Karnas Vasavi Shakti in one of those moon cell games. Its really broken.
So if a mage summoned "caster" Gil. Yes he does qualify for the class, even Grand caster itself. You will get archer Gil interms of power and items but with different clothes and mindset or to be more specific patience. Its imo safer to summon Gil in this state since chances of him killing you are way less and you suffer no loss in fire power. He still has EA and sword spam + in this form he is fine with abusing his clairvoyance.
@@alispeed5095 well... yes...
that's kinda the point
regardless of what personality Gil has when he is summoned, he will still appear as an Archer not as a Caster. he is in fact qualified for 5 out of the 7 original classes (Assassin and Berserker are the ones he can not be) tha doesn't mean any mage can just summon him as a Saber or a Lancer. that's because he doesn't fight like the other 4 classes.
the only reason he fought with the various staffs and spellbooks in Babylonia was because he literally did not have any other options since he disctributed his melee weapons as ammo for the dingirs so in a way that made him a "Caster" but again, he was still alive in the Babylonia Singularity so he wasn't even a servant. the reason Gil as a Caster is a game exclusive and can not be replicated in universe because it is quite literally impossible.
just like you said. you can summon Gil with his personality as a "Caster" but he will NOT appear as a Caster because the throne literally does not have any records of him losing his melee weapons in canon history. so he will STILL appear as an Archer.
also, being qualified for the Grand Caster slot isn't really that impressive... literally the only requirement is to have a very high rank in Clairvoyance... which is weird since one should be the pinnacle of using magecraft when in that position but sure futuresight alone is fine.. but Gil's unique Clairvoyance doesn't even matter that much since he barely uses it so it doesn't matter if he's a candidate or not, no mage is going to be able to summon him as a Caster because he just can't be one the throne just doesn't have any historical records of him acting as a Caster... honestly you'd have a better chance of summoning him as a Saber or Lancer because he did used to fight against and with Enkidu using melee combat (although even with that the chances for summing him as a Saber or Lancer or even Rider is still really low, you'd have better luck summoning in FGO's story banner) and I doubt he used bows for those but Caster??? please, Gil saw Enkidu start throwing weapons made from clay once and his first response was to yeet his own weapons back, ya think he'd have wasted his time reading magic books and casting long a$$ incantations???
Not necessarily. Remember that the Throne of Heroes exists outside of time completely. And it _can_ make interesting decisions. Recall that among the Knights of the Round Table, it is said that Sir Bedivere was the only one not to be recorded into the Throne because he had no great fame and legends to his name. _However._ After the events of the Camelot Singularity, that specific version of Bedivere was recorded into the Throne in recognition of his heroic actions within that Singularity.
In much the same way, Caster Gil from Babylonia could also have been recorded as a Gilgamesh that qualifies for the Caster class. He was classed as such because while he never studied magecraft, the magic staves and tablets that remained within his treasury were powerful enough to compensate. And he _did_ possess enough mana to summon eight Servants prior to the arrival of Chaldea. The main reason he did little during those events until the climax was because he was still recovering the mana he spent. And upon succumbing to the wound he took for Fujimaru, he used his own body as a catalyst to summon himself from the Throne of Heroes in his prime so that he could use the full force of his treasury against Tiamat. Including Ea.
@@Lobomaru02 hmm that thing about Bedivere is true.
but...
wow this actually complicates things
if the throne does in fact take into consideration, feats from non-canon history like singilaries then wouldn't pseudo-singularities like the events of the Epic of Remnant and Lostbelts count too??
for example..
Nebuchadnezzar II using Gil's body during the Beast Nero event. since technically speaking that is an alternative version of the Babylonia Singularity and A Singularity.. would it be possible then to summon Nebuchadnezzar in Gil's body using a relic from Gil's legend? it is Gil's body the personality however is just that of a different person.. or how about summoning Gilgamesh using any relic related to Nebuchadnezzar??
this is just got more confusing tbh
@@AJLaz000 That's part of why we love the Nasuverse. Trying to figure all this shit out.
Gilgamesh only started shooting weapons thanks to Enkidu, Enkidu originated that style of fighting in a sense
Nope. Gil corrected Kingu when he made that claim. Gil said something along the lines of "I remember when the idea originally fkashed in my mind it was ridiculed as waste of time'
@@firephoenix8192as a waste of mana
@@permanentlybored195 the ULTIMATE waste of mana
There are three versions of Gilgamesh:
Child - the innocent young king who had yet to master his powers, and gather his treasurers
Archer - Gilgamesh in his prime, the almighty arrogant king that will become known as the "King of Heroes"
Caster - the more mature and wise version of Gilgamesh, that became a more kind and "righteous" king... A wise king
Man can you imagine he mastered all those weapons I mean with his lifespan it a possibility but he would op as hell.
Scared to think about how much more op he'd be if he actually tried lol
He doesn't need to master them his omniscient eye tells him how to use anything
And the irony that Archer Gil wasn't worthy of the title of Grand Archer according to Alaya (The Counter Force).
@@Animebryan2because he should be the grand ruler if anything. But he's also a candidate/eligible for grand caster since clairvoyance ex is the requirement
In the actual epic he was trained in every weapon they had at the time, and proto gil follows this where he is a master of close combat, while also using a bow as archer.
He also used Enuma Elish against Artoria in the Fate route of F/SN
I completely forgot about that! I really hope that route gets reanimated one day. UBW is my favourite, but I know a lot of people love the Saber route.
@@mocha13 Me as well, I think there's a lot it offers that the other routes don't, and perhaps more importantly it would settle the "where to begin" debate.
yeah. while not fully unleashed, it still counted as Enuma Elish
@@allunar Eh, the whole "Fate anime watch order" thing is stupid, Ufotable fanboys absolutely hate the crap out of DEEN Fate.
@@bluebearie7230 You're Factually Incorrect in VN he said it himself.
Avalon is The strongest Defense not even all True Magic Can penetrate it bro just stop coping.
I'm glad UA-cam recommended me this video. This was an absolute banger. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for being kind enough to give me some of your time!
To me Gilgamesh is someone I see as my hero when I first read about him he just feels so human compared to all the other stores about heroes. Also I would like to know the Story Of Creation if you would make it that would great, also you did a great job with this video.
Thanks a lot! I'll try my best to make a video on the Story of Creation but I have a few other videos in the works so it might take a little while, bare with me please!
Hero or Human, chose one.
Hero are figure to be dream of. Human are those who can be relate to.
Personally, I don't dream of being as coward as him, or relate to the crime he did.
Gil also has nine lives which is not a version of Heracles' technique but a weapon version in the form of a ballista (has appeared in fate kailed). BTW the reason why Gilgamesh's weapon is stronger than the other hero versions is because Gilgamesh's weapon has a higher mystery and generally in the nasuverse the higher the mystery an object has, the stronger it will be.
Sorry for my messy english
I hadn't considered the mystery aspect of the weapons. It might make for an interesting topic in future Fate videos. Thanks! (And your English is great btw)
Gil has their originals,the original has more mistery due the fact that all myths came from his gate
@@luksalter8200 Also his weapons dont degrade unlike those owned by heroes which do degrade, some extremely so depending on legend. Take gram? its been broken and reforged in legend. Not the version Gil owns though :)
Also a hero can have a legend say gae bolg where in said legend the spear is nerfed massively by a witch, if Cu is summoned, that nerf in his legend will reflect on the gae bolg he is summoned with. However this would not be true for the gae bolg Gil owns. It would be as fresh as when it was first made.
David Vincent does such a good job voicing Gilgamesh
He's good, but sounds too deceptive and low-key imo. His Japanese VA gives him this resonant, clear, and imperious voice which suits him much better
David Vincent is one of the rare cases where the English VA is just as good as the original Japanese VA imo. He does such a great job at making Gilgamesh sound like the arrogant gigachad that he is.
It's absolutely atrocious.
@@5chneemensch138 you're entitled to your wrong opinion
Very awesome video, and loved how you emphasized the value of their friendship 😎 It was epic when they both called out their attack at the same time, you can see the fun these two have even in the heart of battle
Now this, this is a great video. I'm first and foremost amazed by how well edited the video was, and how well you actually narrated Gilgamesh's story. I felt like you could've "elongated" some parts a little bit more, but that is not to say that the video was not good, quite the contrary, seeing as this is genuinely one of the best videos I've seen both cover Gil and his story. You managed to get a lot of information across whilst also explaining it in a comprehensive manner, which is something I respect. I'd also like to comment on the great choice of music which made the video feel all the much better. So Great job! You've gained a new subscriber, because you quite frankly deserve more (F the YT algorithm)
This actually made me tear up, thank you so much!
(Also I'm glad you liked the music because I spent more time than I'd like to admit picking out songs that would "fit" lol)
@@mocha13u chose so fucking well
First, he doesnt have Excalibur, that is a weapon unique to Artoria, second what he has is the prototype of caliburn the sword in the stone artoria takes to become king.
Finally, gate of babylon has all the treasures of humanity, so anything that humanity can create, so there are exceptions, like Excalibur and its sheath Avalon, he doesnt have that, he doesnt have divine constructs(except Ea, and stuff unique to his legend and babylon), like some heroes have, or things unique to each hero, like heracles god hand.
sigurds reforged gram is also an exception
I'll be honest this totally just slipped my mind hahaha. Very good point. I'll try and correct it in my next Fate video!
He has other divine weapons other than just stuff related to Mesopotamian myth like Indra's Vajra, Harpe, etcetc
He has divine constructs it's just that Excalibur is a special case where it's THE divine construct that can only be given to one person at a time, thus the Owner is Arthur and no one else, and other divine constructs like Vasavi Shakti are never actually used, thus they exist, but can't be found as their description is limited to just "it exists".
@@durrangodsgrief6503merodach is the original Gram,he doesnt need that
I been dying to find this kind of video thats literally tell a story about Gilgamesh from fate but in Epic of Gilgamesh format in this platform glad finally someone had a ball to do it. 1 subs.
Thanks!
@@mocha13 u welcome
This is a great video analysis of Gilgamesh's character. I learnt new information, and I was drawn here from the tumblr post. Cool post!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked the video, I've got some more fate stuff coming up so I hope you'll like it.
The interesting thing about Gilgamesh is that he isn't much of a hero. He started out as a benevolent and wise king, but he became arrogant and had to be chastised by the gods, that's why Enkidu was created. He's rather cowardly, without Enkidu goading him he wouldn't have dared to do the 'heroics' he wanted to do to become famous, all of his 'quests' basically ended in failure, in the end, he doesn't really accomplish anything he sets out to do. He's not a hero for his deeds or character, he's a hero for the knowledge he brought back from his failed quest. A lot of it rather seems like a humbling tale for his arrogance towards the gods, for which he is punished severely, misremembered today as a heroic tale. His deeds were ultimately for his own vanity and it cost him everything. At least that's his story in the epic of Gilgamesh, his most famous surviving record.
Oh wow. I'll be honest, I didn't know a lot of that. It's certainly an interesting take. Though I will say that, in my opinion, learning from one's failures is one of the greatest things a person can do. Of course, it's quite unlike the Gil we know, but I suppose that's what makes it so interesting. Thanks for teaching me something!
UA-cam recommended me this just as I am getting into the Fate series universes and what a video. Very well made brother, keep at it!
Everyone says that Gilgamesh began to use his GoB the way he uses it as we normally see because of what he saw Enkidu firing off weapons but we are told right after Kingu says that Gilgamesh responded by saying that was a lie as Enkidu remarked him doing that was “The perfect waste of mana of an arrogant king” or something along those lines.
Fate made me get invested in alot of history some years ago and still is. Love this anime in general.
i freaked out when i first saw "The Epic Of Gilgamesh" in one of my school books and now we're learning about it, this also helped a bit in my studies, thanks!
Thanks for lending me your time!
9:03 Gilgamesh does not possess Excalibur in his treasury. Gate of Babylon contains every single piece of man-made weapon ever created, but Excalibur is a Divine Construct, not a man-made weapon. In general, while he does possess a few of his own, Gate of Babylon does not include Divine Constructs such as, as mentioned, Excalibur, Karna's Vasavi Shakti nor his Armor etc.
Also... Nine Lives is not a weapon (the "True Nine Lives" Kid Gil pulls out in Illya is... whatever, and exclusive to Prillya which is known to just do and be its own thing within the Nasuverse). Nine Lives is a technique Herakles came up with by himself, and as such Gilgamesh can't possess it
Yep. I'll be sure to correct these things in future videos. Funnily enough, the excalibur comment might be brought up sooner rather than later (hint hint).
It may include the Vasavi Shakti, gil just doesn't know if he has it since it was never used in life, but it is possible he has the lance itself but doesn't know which lance it is.
He does have divine constructs. Ig-Alima for example. He also has Harpe.
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@@ryuhardt In fact, the only requirement to be in the GoB is to be made OR owned by mankind, when it was made and by whom it doesn't matter,
''Regardless of what end he met, the fact remained that Uruk flourished as a nation of magnificent splendor under the rule of Gilgamesh. His vault was said to contain all of the works of gods and men, and it was rumored that they were the original versions of all Noble Phantasms used by heroes of later ages.'',
''Dozens, hundreds, thousands of Noble Phantasms came raining down onto the man standing in the center of the tornado. At times, they were blades, at times they were knowledge, at times they were pain. There had been a long sword that slayed an oriental dragon. There had been a demonic sword that brought ruin. There had been a spear that killed heroes. There had been lightning without form. The originals of all the Noble Phantasms humanity had obtained or created were propelled unsparingly. A hellish rain spun by mankind was fired in all directions in 360 degrees.'',
''The story of Gilgamesh - mankind oldest hero - was imitated in the mythology of countries all over the world.
The starting point of every legend, the model of all heroes..... it probably wouldn't be an exaggeration to say it like that.
To a greater or lesser extent, the heroes of various myths have derived from Gilgamesh's legend.
Therefore, it has been arranged so that Gilgamesh possesses the prototypes of the Noble Phantasms that all heroes carry..... the treasure of foundation from before each and every myth was arranged.
This is a paradox, but because without Gilgamesh - as the original - holding them, the Noble Phantams will not be handed down to the hands of the heroes of thereafter - as the expansions''
So yeah until proven otherwise, Gil has the prototype of excalibur and any other weapon being divine or not, there are exceptions of course but it has to be proven that they are not, Gil just having weapons made by humans is headcanon
"Just How Many Noble Phantasm do you have?"
"Technically 3, Why? Who's asking?"
There's another Gilgamesh in Fate. Proto-Gil.
The only gil why can 1v1 saber in a sword fight and almost win
And fully agree about the fight in Strange Fake. Beautiful.
Absolutely Phenomenal Production on this video!
Literally just finished watching all fate series, what timing!
broooooo the sound effects for Ea the sword of rupture sound so sick!
Great job! Editing was A tier. The narration was smooth. Writing was a great balance of jokes and drama. Keep up the great work! The subs and fans will come.
Thank you so much! Really appreciate the feedback.
An outstanding video, you captured all the aspects of what made Gilgamesh such a compelling and complex character but I would like to point out some misconceptions mentioned in the video.
1. As stated by many others, the Gates of Babylon only stores weapons/treasures pertaining to Humanity, it doesn't hold Divine Constructs nor does it have any foreign/alien weapons(Altera's sword as an example). Though there are exceptions, like the Prototype Weapon, Merodach: The Original Sin, the Prototype of Caliburn, the original sword in the stone. The reason why Excalibur is a Divine Construct is because it was forged by the Lady of the Lake and was given to Artoria.
2. Ea, or Enuma Elish is considered as an Anti-World, not an Anti-Universe Noble Phantasm. But it doesn't mean it can destroy the world, no. Far from it, as DaVinci said during the Pseudo-Singularity, Shinjuku, there is not a single Noble Phantasm possessed by a Servant that can destroy the world. Anti-World refers to being able to destroy the texture of the world but not the planet. If you were referring to his Fate/Extra CCC variant, where he's been buffed to even surpass BB. It isn't an ideal way to scale his power since that is a one-time buff that could severely damage the Servant's Spirit Origin.
Still, it was a good video! You earned a sub and I'll be waiting for more Fate Analysis videos.
Thanks a lot! Appreciate the criticism, hopefully you enjoy the next few Fate videos! But they take a lot of effort so you might have to wait a week or two lol
That davinci statement is always taken out of context even by you. "No Np can destroy the world....... because counter measures ie COUNTER FORCE exist to prevent such things" We have things like Rhongominiad working to hold the textures together and maintain balance.
However, weapons that have capacity to destroy the world exist. In a world where the counter force has been neutralized you can easily destroy the world. Look at Goddess rhongo in camelot. She had the ability to do it. Then we have arjuna alter who was casually doint it coz said counter measures were inactive in his Lostbelt.
And YES, the counter force can be blind sided if you have the smarts and power to pull it off. Magicians for instance have the potential to. Its hard but to destroy the world, the defenses need to be turned off first.
@@alispeed5095 With backreading, I can confirm that there truly exists Noble Phantasms that can end the world, but most are examples of their living counterparts. The only instance we've seen a Servant close to destroying the Planet would be James Moriarty. Though it was an unconventional method which involved transforming an asteroid into a magic bullet, and having fused with the Freeshooter, Der Freuschtz.
While yes, destroying the Planet's core itself would end the world, but there are no other examples that seem plausible.
As Holmes stated in Shinjuku,
" ...It's not possible to destroy the world. Goetia's objective may have been different, but his plan still took 3,000 years to come to fruition. However, it IS possible to remove the world from history. In other words... "[1]
Though your statement does have a semblance of truth.
" It is true that with the world divided, Earth's safeguards would fail to work. Nonetheless, destroying the entire planet should remain utterly unfathomable. "[2] While yes, destroying the World(Gaia), but the term is complicated as it refers to The Planet, Gaia, and the Counter Force.
Although, going back with the examples of Goddess Rhongomyniad and Arjuna Alter, both are examples of their living selves, not their servant forms. The same could be said for Gilgamesh, in his prime, that is his living self he was capable of destroying the world with ease. As a servant, he cannot do so, the only thing he can do is destroy its textures.
In Arjuna Alter's case, yes, he is indeed shown capable of destroying the planet to nitpick and exterminate any defectives in his lostbelt. But again, that is a living breathing god that consumed all other gods of Indian myth, and it still takes him about hours or maybe a day to recharge and be able to do so again.
"When Arjuna Alter is summoned as a Servant of Chaldea, he is not able to wield the sword to its full extent. That said, if limited and condensed, the destruction it causes is equal to that of Pashupata and Arjuna seems to find its ease of use in that form to be sufficient."[3]
So yes, I do agree that it IS possible, it just needs an extreme amount of resources and energy to do so. I'll edit my statement above to be more clearer.
Sources:
[1,2] Quanrantined Territory of Malice, Shinjuku. Speudo-Singularity [(1999 AD)] -- Section 11.
[3] Fate/Grand Order material VIII - Arjuna Alter, profile translated by SeasonalTea and Smoof
He's kinda wise not to use his clairvoyance, because those who often glimpse into the future are beholden to it
Thank you for this video! Enjoyed it so much
A well edited video?.
Accurate historical info?.
Talking about a hero from my land? (Iraq).
You have no idea how happy I was while watching this video, thank you my friend you really made my day.
P.s : Sorry if my English is not good, since it is not my mother language.
Wow thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it! Your comment is really motivating and it makes me want to work even harder to make better videos, so thanks once again! (And your English is great!)
A bit of a correction, Gil doesn't have Excalibur in Gate of Babylon, he has the predecessor of Caliburn the sword of selection Merodach of the Norse myth, Excalibur, Avalon and Rhonogomyniad, three of Saber's strongest Noble Phantasms are not within GOB because these are divine creations. Although it was mentioned in Strange Fake that he uses Merodach to see if an opponent is worthy of Ea or not, Caliburn and Merodach are similar in fire power and both can function as Holy Swords but both are not as powerful as Excalibur. Excalibur in some myths is said to be created from Caliburn but in some others it was not the in Fate has nothing to do with Caliburn, it is a different sword thus having no prototype.
You have my attention just by starting with David Vincent's voice-over
You just won a new suscribeer just for that ending, my good man
Thanks a lot!
Fate lore videos are like basically free views
I...have no idea but i started to shed a tear when you were talking about the reunion part
Wow this was so awesome and educational.
As the person who got into FGO because of Gil, I highly appreciate this video. Thanks for making and sharing!
you're really underrated for a content creator!
Quite late to the party but just a note: Excalibur is actually not in Gilgamesh's GOB because Excalibur was a sword forged by earth itself to be the protector of its greatest threats, Gilgamesh owns all of humanity's weapons so it excludes some of the weapons that humanity didn't make, sidenote that's why Excalibur has restrictions, it can only be used to the fullest potential when the enemy is a bigger threat to the earth itself, not much is known on Artoria's Excslibur restriction but you can see Proto-Saber's one which unlocks itself if the threat fulfills the conditions
Keep in mind that Servants are basically the equivalent of Naruto's Shadow Clone Jutsu. The Servant Gilgamesh we see was merely a copy created by the Grail in order to be used as a sacrifice. The Heroic Spirit Gilgamesh residing in the Throne of Heroes is far far more powerful.
True. It makes his battle with Enkidu in Strange/Fake even more impressive. Imagine what they could have done at their full powers.
Seems like I found a jewel among all these videos in UA-cam
Awesome video! Thanks for it!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for giving me your time, I really appreciate it!
your channel deserves more attention
Great song choice at the start 👀 and great vid! Felt so short
Gilgamesh is a interesting character!
In Fate Gil returned and collected some herb of immortality after loosing the first portion.
In Fate strange fake he gives potion from this herb to his subordinate.
Pretty good retelling of it, aside form some details, the comments corrected already, imma throw that the subs are better than the dub, keep it up.
Thank you for the video and please keep the amazing work! I will wait for the Enkidu's video.
Thanks! The Enkidu video might take a little while (Fate videos are a lot of work) but I have a video on a certain other King coming out soon :)
There is just two more parts to Gilgamesh’s story in Fate… and that takes us to the end of the world and the moon. I don’t know the moon part too well but I can say that, after the world was destroyed, he was summoned by the Last Master of Humanity to a place called Chaldea. There, he spent his time with well over a hundred different servants and, of course, one of them was Enkidu.
They met again. And this time, they had plenty of time to catch up as saving the world came about pretty slowly.
Great video love the way you narated it
would love to see more
Thanks! Hope you enjoy my next few videos!
By Type-Moon rules more
Time = more Mystery = Stronger.
Prototypes predate otiginals making them have more Mystery.
It's like with Siegfrieds sword Balmung, which was later wielded by his wife. His wifes using Noble Phantasm Balmung (even has a different name) is likely slightly lesser than Siegfrieds, but not by a significant amount. But the one Gilgamesh has would have thausands of years over Siegfrieds, making it have more Mystery.
Though he only has all weapons of Human origin. The Reverse side being considerdd to be another world.
Karnas Lance is literally stated to not be in Gilgamesh's treasury.
Excalibur, which was likely in Avalon at the time should also not be in his treasury.
Also while Archer Gilgamesh killing Tiamat alone would be impossible. Tiamat can continue living as long as there are living beings in the world, he would have needed at the very least Ereshkigals help.
Archer Gilgamesh can't defeat Tiamat or any matured Beast like her. Beast class or Evils of humanity can beat even the serious Gilgamesh but as long they reach full maturity. What make the Beast class so powerful and dangerous is they can literally cheat the system, this power is called the nega-skill plus their own unique traits and other broken skills. Tiamat's nega-skill is called nega-genesis, which allows her to recreate the universe and any servant(with the exception of few) would get insta-kill. This is how important the Grand servants are, their purpose is to counter the Beast class and give humanity a fighting chance.
Fun fact. Gilgamesh can qualify as a Grand Caster due to his broken clairvoyance. People tend to underestimate Caster Gil but the dude can also cheat the system like temporarily changing his saint graph into his archer self.
To describe the context of the fight. Tiamat was constantly holding back, she developed this kind of passive skill because of her love for humanity. In other words she was contradicting herself because of her very twisted motherly love. Which means if Tiamat stop holding back the protagonist's group would never win and her mud will engulf the entire world.
King Hassan technically did half of the job like giving advice that would help the protagonist, giving the tablet of destiny back to Gilgamesh, cutting her wing to prevent her from returning to the land of the living, making Tiamat killable and also causing her spirit origin to vulnerable as normal servant. Because of that, the rules of underworld was able to be fully applied to Tiamat making her even weaker. Not to mention Merlin and Ereshkigal buffing the entire team.
Though Gilgamesh is still a vital part in defeating Tiamat because he had the firepower to fully destroy Tiamat's body. Though Tiamat didn't fully died because her soul is still in the imaginary numbers/another dimension. And she had a change of hearts and she is kind enough to send her servant self to help humanity and preserve the world.
The fact that Ea was unable to be traced by EMIYA/Shirou is crazy, because they're supposed to be able to instantly copy any weapon they gaze upon
Also, in SF, Gilgamesh states his fight with Enkidu should have lasted 3 days and nights, and pretty much everyone is shocked by the damage, even most servants
Nah. Shirou can trace the concept of melee weapon. Ea is not a melee weapon, not even a weapon since it's a tool to make the planet in the first place. It function is not to kill.
Shirou mistakenly think it's a weapon and try to read it, thus he failed.
@@ancy1205 Dude what? No. He can trace a fucking pipe and a heater. He can trace tools. You see him do it all throughout the beginning of F/SN. He can also PROJECT tools and regular items. Proof? Heaven's Feel.
Quote: "……Fine. I guess if I'm going to correct you, we'll have to start with the fundamentals. But let's go back to what we were talking about earlier. Is it true that the things you projected are still in your shed?”
“Yeah. Things don’t normally go away unless you break them, right?”
No, Ea is just that absurd.
@@DJVevyVevs he cant. He can imitate the shape but they are all hollowed. And he reinforce the pipe. Not trace it.
Same reason why he have to fold the poster and reinforce it instead of tracing an actual metal pipe to ready for Cu.
@@ancy1205 I personally disagree, but even if that were the case that doesn't change the fact that he's fully capable of tracing tools. Sure, he didn't recreate a pipe. He did, however, trace it and understand its physical components. He did the same thing with the heater and did so multiple times before the story. That's why he was so good as a handyman around the school.
@@DJVevyVevs if it not a sword, he can analyze it structure. But NP abilities does not come from any structure or mechanism, but from mystery, history and legend. Hence, other mage can project ordinary object but not NP, which is the crystalization of legends. Shirou version of tracing is special, but it only apply to sword or relate concepts.
Dont get me wrong, his scanning ability is good even if he is not the only one who can do it. And will help him alot should he decide to study mystic codes like a normal mage.
Epic video, that description was simple and easy to follow yet described the beauty of The Epics Of Gilgamesh to the best...
At one point u said that EA as especially Archer Gil's weapon.. why so? well we've seen Caster Gil use it too... so I was just curious...
Thanks!
The reason for Ea, specifically being Archer Gilgamesh's weapon and not Caster Gilgamesh's weapon was mainly due to the nature of the weapon and the difference in character between Archer and Caster Gil.
For example, both Ea and Melammu Dingir have destructive capabilities, but Melammu Dingir is used as a defense mechanism to protect Uruk whereas Enuma Elish is usually purely offensive, and I personally attribute that to the differences between Archer and Caster Gil.
It wasn't to say that Ea isn't Caster Gil's weapon, but more so that it it's Archer Gil's weapon that Caster Gil still happens to possess, and has the ability to use if he so wishes.
I would've been more clear on that but uhm... I forgot lol.
@@mocha13 Hm pretty valid points.. I'm convinced.. thanks for the explanation
Wait, when did Caster Gil use Ea? I thought that Caster Gil was the version of himself after he had decided to seal it away.
@@jeffreyherrera5069yeah, caster gil sealed EA (thats why he brean the seal in FSF) and the reason in babylonia why gil used EA is because he summoned his archer form to end the story
@@asdqwe4123 That's what I thought. I was a bit confused because OP said they remembered Caster Gil using Ea himself when it was actually Archer Gil.
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Excellent video
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Astounding work, keep it up. I find it intriguing that you only have 266 Subscribers. I wish you success
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A correction on gate of Babylon, he has a lot of prototype noble phantasms, but he doesn't have divine constructs, he has a select few but not all, and techniques/spells like nine lives or Sherlocks np.
Thanks, I'll try and address this in future Fate videos.
Eh, technically he does have the techniques as well, or rather things that inspired those techniques.
Slices girls’ eyes with a blade and then murders her. Absolute gigachad behavior!
hahahaha
I just gained a whole lot more respect for this great king and a******
great video keep up the good work.
Thanks!
Great video, you earned a sub
Thanks for lending me your time!
Remember watching Babylonia for the first time and just being in complete hype then awe when i realized he was gonna do EE.
One point I want to add, in Fate/Zero, I believe Iskandar (Rider) reminded Archer Gilgamesh of his friend Enkidu. Gilgamesh seems to respect Iskandar a great deal and the most outta any other character in that series. As someone as arrogant as him, his quote “its been ages since I’ve laughed at gibberish sprouted by someone who is not a fool” says a lot about Iskandar, he then brought up his comrade (Enkidu) stating he is all he intends to have. In a sense, this quote can be seen as he was comparing Iskandar and Enkidu. Afterwards, his killing blow to Iskandar was a stab by his most prized weapon Ea which he wouldn’t even allow others see. In the Epic of Gilgamesh, Enkidu was actually described to be a beast man who’s strength matched Gilgamesh’s. Unfortunately Enkidu in the Fate series took on a more feminine design cuz well it sells better.
FGO Gilgamesh honestly was the best depiction of Fate Gil I’ve ever seen, Truly solidified my reason for likening Gilgamesh so much
This was Dope I hope you cover more Fate Lore
Trying my best. I’m still new to editing and making videos so it’s difficult to make a lot of these types of videos, but I’ve got some in the works that’ll be out not-so-soon. Glad you enjoyed it!
That Enuma Elish shout was more powerful than a Super Saiyan scream
Also confirmed that all the Gilgamesh versions have access to all the same memories, but each has their own perspective on them.
Kid Gil: Hates what he's going to become
Teen Gil: Doesn't care
Adult Gil: Experienced all of it.
Uruk gods: you were supposed to punish gilgamesh not join him, you had one job enkidu!
Hahahaha
The way you edit your videos are very good
Ur video is way too good btw. Ty for this masterpiece
Thank you!
One correction, Gilgamesh didn't find the Herb of immortality, but the Herb of Youth after talking to Utnapishtim, he gave him a tip where Gilgamesh can find it. Utnapishtim was also the guy who revealed that there isn't such thing as an herb of immortality. He just got immortal because of the flood that he survived, similar to the biblical Noah. Written down in the Atrahasis-Epos. Still good video. I had fun watching it.
I did a paper on Gilgamesh back in onenof my bachelors classes, and I loved writing about the sumerian, akkadian, and Mesopotamian eras
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ngl white hair archer with the red and black drip is just a better look
This vid should have more views.
How does a youtuber who posts videos of this quality only have 270 subscribers
Hahaha thanks! I only had 60 when I posted it lol
@@mocha13well anyways im looking forward to future videos
Was expecting a mention of Proto Gilgamesh and his twin swords that change into a Bow and shoots an arrow that acts as a beacon for a missile from space.
as a TRULY gilgamesh fan, this video is pure gold
unfortunately shirou will always be the chad who cucked the incel gilgamesh
In Stay Night, yes. Not in UBW or Heaven's Feel though haha.
This video is fucking phenomenal, i couldnt even believe your sub count when i looked to subscribe lmao. You'll grow into a big channel bro.
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Good video
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I remember caster Gilgamesh give 80% of his treasure to ishtar for her help to defeat tiamat
Wow, I actually appreciate the character ALOT more now because of this video lol
His gate of Babylon does have something that can be considered the prototype of Excalibur. As long as hero have a weapon use. Gilgamesh will have something that can be consider a prototype of that weapon, because he is the first hero. Without him having it, later hero won’t have that weapon. However his prototype are not consider be consider divine construct and usually weaker compare to the divine construct part. Example Vajra and the divine version use by divine spirit are not being label divine construct even though it was use by gods. Indra, Kama, Vritia, and god of Buddhism in nasuverse. Summer raikou vajra was A+ rank and not label divine construct and all of them have their own difference in appearance. Also in nasuverse he went back for the herb of immortality to finish his collection.
I love Gilgamesh always every version of him are peak except that one weak gil from Grey night
"I will tell you of the beginning Heaven and Earth split, nothingness congratulated creation and my sword cleaved the world! Mortar of the stars, heaven's hell is the eve of creation's celebration!" "I will awaken the breath of the planet, for I walk with humanity"
Gilgamesh and Enkidu both have an NP of the same name, but from two completely different perspectives. Gilgamesh's describes the creation of reality, while Enkidu's is derived from the planet's own will of survival.
Gilgamesh was Nimrod or some say his son. So the grandson of the accursed Ham, son of Noah. So this certainly _would_ be one of the very 1st written documentation of the new beginning.
R.I.P to all the people wearing headphones on the Enuma Elish part😂.
Bro I swear Gil was such a bro in FGO just like hassan
His charisma remains unsurpassed.