Dwarf Legendary Lord Power Comparison
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2024
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Dwarf Legendary Lord Power Comparison. Analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of Thogrim Grudgebearer, Grombrinal, Ungrim Ironfist, Belegar Ironhammer, Thorek Ironbrow based on their Battle Power, Commanding Power and Faction Power.
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You got a like just for the intro advert reviews! Also like the video...
would normally skip through those ads but your babbling is just to hilarious
Drinking game: Take a pint every time he mentions 'the book' or how dwarfs fall a little short. Preferably with Bugman's XXXXX ale.
Please make product reviews a regular feature. You get paid, we get great content and nobody skips ads like that so manscaped gets money! We all win!
ultimate challenge: do not think about the youtuber's pubes whilst they advertise for manscaped (IMPOSSIBLE)
I feel like advertising a razor in a Dwarf LL Power Comparison is an Eternal Grudge.
Shave a beard?! Doesn't he remember the WAR OF THE BEARD?! Damn wazzok
Barber's in dwarfen society are highly regarded. How else do you think their beards are so meticulously maintained? As long as the barber doesn't shave it.
@@gotrekandslixem4882 I would let it slide if it was called Dawiscaped and not Manscaped
You think a Slayer's mohawk is pattern baldness? That's goin in the book - I declare war on you and your clan for this insult!! LET THE WAR OF THE SCALP BEGIN!!!! BRING ME A FOE WORTHY OF MY DEATH!!!"
Manscaped is for manlings, not for the mighty Dawi
Malekith has higher ranking than White Dwarf? THAT'S 10 ADDITIONAL GRUDGES, YOU, WAZZOK
Grudgin'
High Elf: *Laughs in Alarielle*
@@gerardfarresfranch7242 GRUDGE, WAZZOK!
@@Witch_King Awwww... Don't worry! I will use my dwarf beard cloak to wipe your tears! ;)
As he should. The phoenix king is the best the warhammer world has ever seen
Seeing Belegar at #1 these days is absolutely wild considering he was basically just a Dwarf Lord for the longest time.
Thorek is just insanely tanky. He's one of the only lords in the game where I actually notice all of his defenses working.
Throw the +50 armor rune on him and try to min max phys resis/ward save. He's just an unkillable mountain of a dwarf. Throw in his Master Spite Skill point + artillery slamming the area around him while surrounded and the damage is just staggering.
@@TheBoxGhost_tm This is exactly what my tactics are for Thorek's army with the addition of regeneration from Ironwarden Tankerd. It's incredibly effective at tying up your opponent with combat and stubbornly resisting death.
like 75% of the legendary lords in the game are insanely tanky with items n stuff anyways though its pretty easy to get anyone to like 80% ward save
gor rok wants to have a talk with you
Plus blasting charge spam Thorek fucking melts skaven AI.
The dwarves were my first faction I won the campaign with. It’s fun to see how the new lords stack up.
@@SpencerLemay not according to Tolkien. But you do you.
@@benjamincarlson6994 well yeah but this is Warhammer
The white dwarf should get 10/10 for his faction power, his entire blue line is crazily good. Giving a 9 is the real grudge here.
Yeah the blue line kinda blew my mind when I saw it. OP as heck.
"How many shorty jokes you want?"
Legend: "YES"
Yes-yes!
That's going in the book!
Hey Legend, I have an idea for a new series. "Legend's Losses" where you showcase some of the battles you've lost during your campaigns. You could play the original commentary but then chime in here and there about what you could have done different. Not all loses, just ones where you lost a close battle. One that comes to mind is the loss of Black Crag during one of your Thorrgrim campaigns (ran out of ammo). The Kholek campaign you almost lost. Losses to Grom a few times ect... I think this series would do great.
Good idea, would be interesting
If the logistics of making that sort of video work it might be interesting. A different flavor of disaster battle video
@@johnvalliant261 That's one of the best things about it: it needs little editing. Also, Legend gets some of his highest live numbers (outside of big releases) when he's having a rough campaign. Makes for compelling viewing.
@@paingainmayn I still remember the campaign in which he got fucked over by Tyrion. Good times.
yes this!
"Some might say he falls a bit short in that regard"
THAT'S A GRUDGIN'!
For Thorek Ironbrow, one could argue that him having a rune of spite innately, frees up a rune of spite for someone else, which COULD then be argued to be a tiny buff for the faction, having another army with a Mortis engine…?
Ungrim was amazing when it was 50% journeys end
Yeah, was also the reason why I played with his faction after watching Legends video about it and then I built a slayer stack just to realise that they patched it and slayers are fucking useless again. :(
Question is, was the ability bugged already back then?
@@otwk it had 50% in the description didnt it??
@@langa77777 I don't know
I only know that currently, when they get hit by artillery while above 75% health, the slayers still "die" - get distracted from model count and so on.
The only difference is, they stand up and run off the map.
(Granted, something similar also happened to me with dead Miners recently, so even without the ability, "dead dwarfs walking" are seemingly a thing).
But that aside, it's similar for all "entities cannot die while ability is active" effects, for example Eltarions helmet - the affected units can still die to artillery or magic missiles.
Edit: Iirc there's a bug report on the total war forums about the Helm of Yvresse that goes into some detail about this.
"Growth is a huge problem for Dwarfs" -That´s a grudging!
Id really love to see a faction rating and not a lord rating. Faction rating lets you know what the easiest/hardest faction to play as is. Knowing who the best lord is will be less useful compared to that.
Yeah, agreed. I pick LLs based on their faction mechanics, not how well they do in combat. Mostly because I can just confederate the good ones later.
It's all very subjective due to differences in play styles. There are some obvious no brainers that swing for either the best (Skryre) or the worst (Nakai), but other than that, it's a wash. In general, they did a fairly good job at making each faction feel unique and good to play (excluding norsca and chaos, as they haven't been updated in ages).
Yeah lord rating is pointless, even when confederating them you go after who you can, not who is 'strongest'.
Leaving out the faction buffs etc is when I started realizing Legend is just an autistic one trick pony cheesing hack.
@@damo9961 nah. He can play completely different army composition. I'd say he is playing most efficiently thus very repeatedly. Its for very specific crowd of people. But all of his plays work on all difficulties.
Legendary Lords are important in this game, the reason for that easily can be seen from the Vampire faction. Vlad von Carstein is one of the strongest Legendary Lords in the game that he can defeat 2-3 armies by himself in the late game. Legendary Lords can change the way you are playing this game. Your army might be the WORST army but with the help from Legendary Lord buffs, the WORST army becomes invincible on the battlefield. Also, the way the game represents slayers is kind of wrong. According to the Lore, the Slayers are the warriors who have the oath to die on the battlefield. Those dwarves are seeking their glories deaths, because of the lore Slayers must have the unbreakable trait so every single slayer soldier must be slain on the battlefield. The way they are running away is kind of hilarious. Ungrim also has that oath but he keeps that oath by sending slayers to their death.
Sponsored a dwarf vid with manscaped.... im now wondering the beard length of a dwarfs lower beard.... either way its a grudging
Dreadlocks down to their knees.
Didn't realize Belegar was so strong, as he had such a hard start when I've tried him (but I wasn't very good then it was before I worshipped the Cheese Lord🤣), I would have put Grombrindal as the best (didn,'t really play Thorek yet).
Yeah Belegars faction absolutly sucks. Mostly you have to quickly defeat the greenskins close by, then pack your stuff and head straight to the eight peaks and retake it. Not really funny and interesting. Thoreks campaign isn't bad, but my problem was that at the time I reached Karak Azgal, the fucking dwarfs (Thorgrim + Grombrindal) already conquered 80 % of the holds and were ranked 1 :/ Not to mention that Clan Eshin declared war on me together with the Lizards :(
They just buffed him in the latest patch. He's really solid now.
Belegar not only has the strongest army but also weaker opponents near him earlier on.
The problem starts to happen if that window of opportunity to strike is not taken in time.
This is what needs to happen:
Kill greenskins & scarsnic asap, and than makes sure Ikit claw is dead. Then peace with everyone around you and head strait for that bugman brewery owned by clan Spitle. From there prepare your crusade against grimgore and his lackeys. It should be smooth sailing from there.
If you are not aggressive enough in the early part of the campaign, you will get stuck defending a hard to defend province until you have walls everywhere and make the game a boring grind.
It is way more fun to be the aggressor when you know the AI does not have the armies to compete with yours.
@@axelmuller7946 Something to note is that controlling karak eight peaks gives +4 public order factionwide as belegar which is a pretty big deal for dwarves on higher difficulties.
Personally Grombrindal is my preferred LL to start a legendary campaign with. I always prioritize confederating Belegar for his character buffs and heroes, but playing his faction is awful. Grombrindal's -20% troop upkeep buff is god-tier in the early game, and makes an otherwise challenging start in legendary difficulty very manageable. I agree with Legend's list though, as this buff is faction-specific, so you don't gain as much confederating Grombrindal as you do with Belegar.
Great video. Hope we get one for the Empire legendary Lords soon.
Possible if Empire DLC comes out in future.
@@dmitriyk.2890 thaught it was confirmed that ca will stop working on total war: warhammer 2 ?
@@feIixse there are some new dlc related files in the WH2 data. It's probably going to be Boris FLC or something (they have recently made some ads featuring Boris)
@@feIixse it does not exclude Empire DLC for WHIII
Man I’ve been using Manscaped for like 4 years now, it’s practically like casting Penumbral Pendulum on your nuts. Perfectly smooth and no Skaven to be seen.
Loving these comparison videos!
Awesome, was hoping you'd continue these, I love hearing your opinion on all the LL's :) Would love to see an episode about the Tomb Kings or Vampire Counts!
Vampire Counts would be such a close thing. I feel that they are all pretty much on the same level like battle power 10/10 for everyone. I think, though, Legend spares them for later when Nagash and Neferata are there
Every dwarf's LL rating is on knee-level
Lol
That's another one for the book.
Ironbreakers could do no damage and I'd still recruit them over Hammerers
I love the idea of hammerers, but they just get melted so fast. Even goblin archers are a hard counter to hammerers.
@@gotrekandslixem4882 Yeah generally melee with 2 handed weapons dont have a place. Magic and missiles are too strong.
Almost every unit has AP dmg, even shitty goblin archers can get scrap upgrade.
Armor as a stat is almost useless, so any unit that relies on armor is a joke.
@@mrgabest so all Dwarfs?
@@mrgabest idk ive had grommie with 200 armor taking no missile damage just cutting down orcs.
Seeing Belegar being this respected makes me happy
Dude lol omg that was the best intro I've ever heard you do, holy crap, that actually had me howling, my god what great testiclmonies! But yes, wonderful video, you actually do comedy really well sometimes its nice to see it shine through every once in a while :) Only noticed one thing with your ratings at the very end with belegar, I suppose not overly necessary but when you consider that the dwarves have some of their worst matchups at least before you got amazing armies, against greenskins and skaven, but belegar provides factionwide vanguard deployment for all armies in all underway battles. Its fairly easy to get decent intercept chance with him as I'm quite certain its coupled with his ambush defense chance which is particularly useful against skaven, especially clan eshin, I feel like that might have boosted the faction ranking by at least another .25 points or so, I mean its basically a hard counter against their two strongest opponents and just allows you to set your gun line on them before they can even assemble, especially if the underway fight has more than one army and you just nuke them with siege as they pop in from the zone wall. Thank you very much for the video!
Love your videos. One of the only you tubers I can binge watch both regular videos and the stream VODS
By the end of this video, dwarves created a separate Book of Grudges, to store all insults from Legend.
Love this series VERY VERY keen to hear all the updated thoughts on the new dlcs thanks Legend !
Grombrindal's army speed skill would put the Mournfang Cavalry up to nearly 100 speed.
Your channel is the only channel that i look forward to hearing about your sponsor. Thanks Manscaped!
I love ads that put some personality in them. Makes me actually want to look at a product.
We really need faction power comparison, it feels weird having the lord from the worst Dwarf faction be the number 1
Perfect timing, was hoping you would do this with the new update. Thanks.
I was watching all the comparison last night and now u bring me this. The Dawi are pleased.
Thx legend, and thx u 2 for reading my coment. May the sun be with all of you.
Best one yet!! Hilarious advertisement and spot on comparison. Keep up the great work!
I think that it would be beneficial to have an "optimal confederation" section at the end, which would further distinguish each LL.
Personally, I think Thorgrim is the best Dwarf LL because while Gromby has the Ancestor goodies, the improved commandments enable a distinctly more flexible and arguably more powerful management of your realm. Getting Gromby is pretty straightforward, Ungrim and Belegar tend to turtle long enough for you to rescue-confederate them, and Thorek isn't as valuable as either of the other 3 in terms of faction-wide buffs.
Love the Manscaped section.
I love your perspectives on these!
Thanks for all your work Legend.
This man's Manscaped promos are one of very few youtuber promos I never skip. Legendary.
Love the LoTR reference for Grombrindals mountain strider skill
I love manscaped is sponsoring a video talking about a bunch of hairy Dwarfs
Byrrnoth Gundadrakk needs to be a legenday lord. He has such cool lore.
How big is his beard.
Yes! Loving this type of content
If I could add a suggestion, maybe you should add a side comparison/4th category in future videos where you score them based on their individual campaigns too. Leaving out campaign mechanics seems to be missing a large chunk of the content.
I understand why you do it in the primary score, but would also be interested in how you weigh the campaign mechanics too.
didn't he already make a seperate video about campaign mechanics? at least for other factions already?
I think it might just overcrowd the video a bit...having to constantly switch between a comparison of the lord and then in and out of their own faction...sounds a bit confusing on paper
I'd rather have this video, where it's easy to understand what any LL can do in any of the campaigns
and a seperate video...maybe in a faction comparison video it might be a good idea to mention if LL have specific synergy or stuff like that
literally just this morning was looking for dwarfs list. im glad the goat made one as i trust his opinion
Been waiting for this video so long I won a dwarf legendary campaign (my first) thanks for your hilarious and useful content!!
Thanks for the video Legend!!!
Bumping for the algorithm.
Was seriously looking for this guide two days ago lol. I wanted to have a heavily modded campaign and sample the thunderbarge
Same
Man, how many pages does Legend wanna take up in the Dammaz Kron with all those short jokes?
Loved the intro, had me laughing. Great video as always
I just dont get it ... why give slayers more melee attack when they already have a pretty high stat there ...
Dear devs: Slayers only need one thing and one thing only to work: Sustainability, give them physical res, dodge ... ANYTHING!
... damn even a freaking tier zero savage orc trades one on one with a salyer
That's against their purpose lore-wise. Slayers are meant to die on the battlefield, they don't care about winning or losing they only care about death. They are good ambush shock units you would use them only for keeping the enemy in their place until the main army comes to wipe out the enemy army.
My god, I'm dying at Acey Kerr's testicalmonial.
Tbh, advert intro was probably the best and funniest part of video.
Manscape sponsor on a dwarf video? Thats going in the book.
But only shaving your beard is grudging...
"One might say hes falling a little bit short"
The book
finally... been waiting for this video
I think a good idea would be Legendary lord reviews. Specifically as a faction and what makes them unique. I like these videos that rate them as a tier list, but often when I go into a campaign I don't often think about playing as one faction and confederating the other legendary lords, so a more in depth review of each lord and their faction might be nice.
Love the videos.
Props for using a Dwarf vs DE in the background while talking about Grommie
The manscaped ads are so good lol
That was one of the only adds I've watched the whole way through
Jeff, your manscape innuendos could be their own show.
love this content!
ngl, when he started talking about Grumbrindal and the gameplay was him zoomed in on a squad of witch elves, when they get wrecked by flamethrowers what brutal af.
Love the series, thanks for making it!Quick question tho: is there somewhere we can see the results of all the LLs that have been rated so far in a list or something?
I wish you would rank the factions as well. Like its cool if Belegar is the best Dwarf LL, but this type of video is most helpful when you know which faction you want to start confederating all these bad boys under.
I think this kind of video is fine...because this is the basis..and it's accurate for all factions...so for any faction confederating a LL, this is what you get.
a faction comparison should be done on its own, I think. with mentions of LL with synergies to campaign mechanics (if any)
i really liked all the jokes on this video keep up the great content
Thanks for the video
Honestly that advertising had me laughing should keep this style going i enjoyed it
I think Belegar's campaign became pretty much the best in the dwarf faction. You are not just racing against Skarsnik but you have to watch out for the Carstein conquest as well.
Anytime when Legend mentions that GROWTH is a huge PROBLEM for DWARFS i hear thanes gathering for a dwarfentide
Finally. Dwarf video!
I've waited a long time for that
2:35 Ah, into the Dammaz Kron you go.
Thanks to Manscaped, I've been able to make my Throggsticles smoother than a high elf campaign! Now they are cleaner than Grom's freshly licked plate! Thanks Manscaped!
Funny thing about Grombi's armywide speed buff, it possibly makes him the best Mournfang cavalry commander in the game since he can get them to 100 speed
@@myopinionbetter4287 Thats almost skaven level cheese :D
I think it should be pointed out that +speed should also boost pivot speed of units which would be useful for a dwarven army settled into an in entrenched position. Also getting your thunderers out to rake along the front lines and other similar maneuvers. Its not some big obvious gain on dwarves but it should still add up.
Happy to see one of my favorite LL's at the top.
I think the movementspeed from grombrindal is useful for the units he buffs like irondrakes to reposition
The gyro's are war machines. It is incredible useful for them. It think that Legend rated Grombis command power too low
YES!! just what I needed
Maybe at the end, you could tell us about the Generic lords, I know it's LL comparison but that could be fun yeah
Life Slaans, Plague Grey Seers, and Supreme sorceresses are the best generic lords imo.
@@torum6448 Generic lords for which faction he's doing, like for this one only Dwarf generic lords
@@fazalamin6379 Dwarf Lords aren't that amazing but you can view them kind of like an Ironbreaker; not great at damage dealing but is very tank and good at holding the line. Rune Lords are more useful once they get ranked up because of their magic but they're relatively squishy and again not good damage dealers. Most of the time it's better to go Runelord just for the utility if having rune magic, but once in a while you might want a Dwarf Lord just to tank and hold out against hordes of enemies while your ranged units fire in around him.
@@Assdafflabaff Thanks
@@fazalamin6379 Yeah, i was just saying like in general, which ones i'd think would get the highest rating. but yeah, all in all a generic lord comparison would also be interesting
Legend getting more disgusted than elves at Nurgle with that long Manscaped Testiclemony
I just started a grombrindal campaign and am excited to see how he's rated
Love this
Came for the manscaping ad, stayed for the short jokes. 9/10 video.
@LegendofTotalWar:
What I'd really like to see is once you're done with all of these race Legendary Lord comparisons, is to do a Full "Best of the Best" and "Worst of the Worst" video.
God, every youtuber who sponsors Manscaped always make me laugh when they advertise it.
Commenting for the algorithm
Fun fact about the Book of Grudges is. It would explode tremendously, if Dwarfs had the Internet. Since as far as I know, any Dwarf taking offense to anything. Can ask for the Grudge to be added to the book. Now look at all the Social Media... yeah, we'd need a MOON of Grudges. To keep all the Books of Grudges on. And it would still not be enough.
EDIT: Forgot to add that all of the above is to say, that Legend has been added to the book of Grudges, far more times than he assumes in the video.
"Growth is a huge problem for Dwarves". Touché
I'm glad my boy Belegar is getting the respect he deserves. He is my favorite Lord in all Total War Warhammer (tied with Alith Anar), and I love the race to Karak Eight Peaks. He is such a durable little pissant and the Ranger strats he can employ is awesome.
For doing him the justice he deserves, I'm striking out several grudges in the book for you, Legend.
11:46 Nice phase out with Thorgrim to dodge that strike.
15:48 "Growth is a huge problem for Dwarfs" - LegendofTotalWar
Thought we wouldn't notice but we did
High King is gonna need another book for all these new grudges...
Love the ad! Staying for the shaved dwarfs!😁
I was thinking 2 days ago, why there is no dwarf lords. I was about to suggest to make this video, and now you make it.. xDD
How many grudges you want?
Legend: YES
i never feel so satisfices seen witch elf eating flame thrower at face
My actual kinda favourite Dwarf at first place ... I would have never thought that! =D
Soley because he has such a ... tiny mission campaign, instead of CONQUEST ALL!!! =D
Legend got an entire page of grudges dedicated to him now
So, 2 grudges.
*testiclemonys*
i just spat out my tea, thanks legend