Elden Ring - He used to be somebody

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  • This is far from the only big shakeup with the plans for the Crucible Knights, but this one feels especially unfortunate, because it sort of undercut some of the buildup from showcasing the image of Tanith and her knight.
    Song used: Subterranean Graveyard - King's Field IV OST

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  • @ZullietheWitch
    @ZullietheWitch  2 роки тому +2500

    The network test has one of the Crucible Knights named as Floh, whose name was also stolen for Bloodhound Knight Floh. Considering then there's also Bloodhound Knight Darriwil, whose name fits the same naming scheme as Ordovis, Siluria, and Floh, we might technically know four of the names of the Crucible Knights. Who knows what name would have been for which knight though, the Crucible Knights are all over the place.

    • @wealthybone2990
      @wealthybone2990 2 роки тому +73

      Interesting but it's weird that they didn't name the rest of these knights as they're special and probably would've have some quests or something lore behind them but maybe it was scrapped because of time? Like there's spots some of them are placed in which are interesting to me like the one in the storm veil castle or the one underground you use to teleport to.

    • @Dinoman972
      @Dinoman972 2 роки тому +370

      To elaborate, they're all named after geological periods. Ordovis and Siluria are named after the Ordovician and the Silurian, and it turns out two of the Ordovician's substages are called Floian and Darriwillian.

    • @Kazuhiro-i
      @Kazuhiro-i 2 роки тому +65

      @@Dinoman972 holy moly

    • @FreedomAndPeaceOnly
      @FreedomAndPeaceOnly 2 роки тому +75

      The Crucible Knights are very cool.
      It's a pity we never encountered one of them who would just talk to us.

    • @Archphoenix1
      @Archphoenix1 2 роки тому +9

      uhm, ordovicium and silur are earth ages (the crucible knights might be named after them) so they might all be named after an earth age ot there might have been 1 created every age

  • @cloudbank3106
    @cloudbank3106 2 роки тому +5592

    I feel like Volcano Manor is the biggest what-if to me in Elden Ring. The way Tanith talks about everything, and Rykard as a whole, always made it feel like they were going to have a unique ending to them as a whole. I was a bit bummed when I found out it was more or less just the NPC summon quests and the Rykard fight, especially for an area as visually striking and haunting as Volcano Manor and the surrounding Mt. Gelmir.

    • @glorytoukraine5524
      @glorytoukraine5524 2 роки тому +517

      Cut content has been restored in DLC before, so there's hoping!

    • @blake4358
      @blake4358 2 роки тому +212

      Yeah it kind of feels like it missed out on a ton of content or it was cut. Volcano manor is so cool

    • @envoyofrot7046
      @envoyofrot7046 2 роки тому +673

      On my blind playthrough I completely tried to avoid them because I thought they are their own faction with an own ending since they literally rise against the erdtree and I also though murdering for them has consequences. In NG+ I realize they neither have an ending nor is there any consequence for hunting your fellow tarnished. Very un-Fromsoft-like and a bit disappointing

    • @Kazuhiro-i
      @Kazuhiro-i 2 роки тому +63

      I hope that in future DLC we we'll have Rykard restoration or origins. Is such a cool place and concept almost lost in the base game

    • @GuitarGuise
      @GuitarGuise 2 роки тому +214

      100% agree. With the whole idea of the faction saying "To hell with the Greater Will and the Erdtree! We'll do it our own way! Might is right!", I totally thought they'd have their own path for the end of the game... Then all you do is kill a few NPCs, fight Rykard, and collapse the whole faction. They take it sitting down, too. Even though the Rykard fight is awesome, overall Volcano Manor's end falls flat. It felt like it was missing a lot of quest content.

  • @Demokaze
    @Demokaze 2 роки тому +1385

    We have names inspired by the Ordovician and Silurian geologic periods and some that are named after the ages in the Ordovician period (like Floh and Darriwil) so the rest of the crucible knights would likely be named after the ages in those periods. Ordovis and Seluria are the most prominent so I'm guessing the rest would be something like Hirnant, Katy, Sandby, Darriwil, Daping, Floh, Tremadoc, Rhudda, Aeron, Telych, Sheinwood, Homer, Gorsty and Ludford which makes a total of 16 names as the number of crucible knights.

    • @figo3554
      @figo3554 2 роки тому +13

      That's pretty cool

    • @FakeStrangepie
      @FakeStrangepie 2 роки тому +176

      @@FearTheRetroNPC That's what Zullie suggested, ie it was originally meant to be a Crucible Knight's name, but after From decided they'd only name the two, they gave Darriwil to a Bloodhound.

    • @espelhogamer
      @espelhogamer 2 роки тому +27

      Underrated comment

    • @janebtar2167
      @janebtar2167 2 роки тому +21

      I can't really remember, but "floh" was also the name of another bloodhound, or am I mixing something up here?

    • @Demokaze
      @Demokaze 2 роки тому +70

      @@janebtar2167 It's the name of the spirit hound we get. But apparently Floh and Darriwil were going to be the names of some of the crucible knights before the final game changes.

  • @thegod-emperorofheroes1212
    @thegod-emperorofheroes1212 2 роки тому +803

    His name is Gug and he is in constant pain.

    • @thegreatw00f92
      @thegreatw00f92 2 роки тому +110

      Gug :"Gug"

    • @JoeJhoe
      @JoeJhoe 2 роки тому +92

      Aren't we all?

    • @gkovostis
      @gkovostis 2 роки тому +81

      When Gug said "Gug" and started Gugging all over the place, it was truly one of the momments in gaming history

    • @Guymanbot97
      @Guymanbot97 2 роки тому +13

      I was looking for this comment, lol

    • @theblackbaron4119
      @theblackbaron4119 Рік тому +11

      @@gkovostis did you mean he said it's guggin' time and he gugged all over the floor and then died at the box office.

  • @envoyofrot7046
    @envoyofrot7046 2 роки тому +2333

    I am still sad how abruptly Tanis Questline involving this guy ended.
    I wonder if there will ever be a use for the Dancer's Castanets

    • @weebto
      @weebto 2 роки тому +237

      Yharmam stone vibes

    • @connoc5078
      @connoc5078 2 роки тому +54

      Hopefully in a dlc if they don't add a use in the base game.

    • @kajus
      @kajus 2 роки тому +158

      They do have a use now. As of patch 1.06, Patches will not spawn back in Murkwater Cave until you give the Castanets to Tanith (if alive). If Tanith is dead, Patches spawns in Murkwater Cave anyway, apparently.
      I did this on a playthru on the week Patch 1.06 dropped. I spoke to Patches at Shaded Castle, got the Castanets, then warped to Murkwater. He was MIA. I warped to Tanith, spoke to her, but did not give her the Castanets. Went back to Murkwater, still no Patches. Back to Tanith. Gave her the Castanets. Back to Murkwater. Boss fog wall was up.
      There is a another element that can prevent Patches from returning to Murkwater Cave- the trap chest that warps you to Mistwood. If you never opened that chest, then Patches won't relocate back to Murkwater after Shaded Castle UNTIL you've opened it. BUT, this was not the case regarding my experience with the Castanets post-Patch 1.06. Patches had no roadblocks preventing him for relocating back to Murkwater Cave. I checked the place out twice, and only after I gave the Castanets to Tanith did Patches relocate.
      That's my conclusion, anyway.

    • @-TriP-
      @-TriP- 2 роки тому +202

      @@kajus that's nice and all, but I wouldn't count that as a "use" for the item or a conclusion to Tanith's questline. I can't imagine that the intention for their existence was simply for her to go "oh I don't need these" and advance Patches' quest stage. There has to be something unfinished here.

    • @GreenTheem
      @GreenTheem 2 роки тому +24

      I was also disappointed to see Patches’ ending that my friend completed to get the fiery hammer thing in the process.
      Why they just toss my boy Patches away like that?! The lad had so much more fight in him!

  • @midnightlunch3285
    @midnightlunch3285 2 роки тому +1065

    Tanith's Knight felt a lot like a "Boba Fett" type character - where they look intimidating and are hyped up through promotional material and whatnot, but end up being a bit of a letdown in terms of what they actually do. Makes more sense that there was a whole questline involving him, especially given that it's pretty interesting how he "betrayed" the other Crucible Knights etc. I wonder why they cut so much quest content, given that almost all of it was complete.

    • @boomdoom2596
      @boomdoom2596 2 роки тому +198

      You just wait, in forty years this guys gonna have his own TV series.

    • @cosseybomb
      @cosseybomb 2 роки тому +45

      Boba Fett is nutty though only the books have done him justice imo

    • @kolbywilliams7234
      @kolbywilliams7234 2 роки тому +26

      Yeah, I think they should have kept that one as Ordovis, even if there wasn’t a quest line. It would give a bit of flavor to the character at least.

    • @spartankittygames
      @spartankittygames 2 роки тому +86

      It's quite baffling how much content was cut. The game is fantastic no doubt but some quests just feel unfinished and pieces of lore stuck in files and not in the actual game. Hope we get some dlc soon.

    • @ianjusten-pratt7206
      @ianjusten-pratt7206 2 роки тому +41

      I think a more akin comparison would be Captain Phasma from the sequel trilogy. At least we got some cool Boba Fett shit later. These guys are probably never gonna get any good spotlight which is exactly what happened with Phasma.

  • @stephenlucas8836
    @stephenlucas8836 2 роки тому +742

    In our hearts, Tanith's knight is named Gug. Gug is in pain.

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 2 роки тому +69

      Ironmouse!Tanith may actually be more well-known than canon!Tanith
      Thanks, Max0r

    • @trustworthytim4762
      @trustworthytim4762 2 роки тому +62

      Aren't we all?

    • @magostarmus3705
      @magostarmus3705 2 роки тому +3

      If the named ones are Ordovis and Siluria, then this one should be Cambris or Cambria.

    • @en-men-lu-ana6870
      @en-men-lu-ana6870 2 роки тому +16

      @@magostarmus3705 You don't seem to get the reference.

    • @friedpotato6846
      @friedpotato6846 Рік тому +1

      Why is gug in pain

  • @lonelyshpee7873
    @lonelyshpee7873 2 роки тому +1061

    Such a shame that so much content about the crucible knights had to be cut. I wish we could've gotten Ordovis' sword and armour from this cut quest and not from an awful duo boss in a hero's grave...

    • @laary7589
      @laary7589 2 роки тому

      Best duo boss in the game fuck you on

    • @MrNinjaSoda
      @MrNinjaSoda 2 роки тому +111

      Not to mention you already get the tree sentinel set in that hero grave. It always bothered me for some reason that both of them drop in the same dungeon. Like they crowd each other or something

    • @spookytown7963
      @spookytown7963 2 роки тому +5

      Skill issue

    • @lonelyshpee7873
      @lonelyshpee7873 2 роки тому +97

      @@spookytown7963 What?... I said it was awful, not hard... There's a difference.

    • @falcongamingproductions9938
      @falcongamingproductions9938 2 роки тому +18

      Lol yeah I hate that fight, but if you can become a parry god for a few minute it makes it a lot easier

  • @TheRatchz
    @TheRatchz 2 роки тому +407

    He's gug...the lord of constant pain.

  • @aswifte5743
    @aswifte5743 2 роки тому +292

    The loading screens made me think the Dragonkin Soldier of Nokstella's arena would be a lot more important than it is considering its design

    • @jstar3382
      @jstar3382 2 роки тому +34

      It's a giant skeleton, it looks cool. What else do you want

    • @elias.t
      @elias.t 2 роки тому +137

      @@jstar3382 Maybe something telling us why exactly there's a giant skeleton sitting on a throne surrounded by petrified... things.

    • @Hadley.Sinclaire
      @Hadley.Sinclaire 2 роки тому +20

      You used 'its' correctly! I'm going to kiss you

    • @ecthelionalfa
      @ecthelionalfa 2 роки тому +45

      the first time i entered that arena i was terrified, my first impresion was that we might fight hordes of those black things and then the giant esqueleton will start moving, then i saw the giant lizard it was like "ah giant lizard... oke"

    • @bismarckluna
      @bismarckluna 2 роки тому +6

      @@elias.t Petrified... Bloodborne messengers lmao.

  • @gryzziarth8288
    @gryzziarth8288 2 роки тому +95

    Now he is somebody we used to know.

    • @nathanfrandon2798
      @nathanfrandon2798 2 роки тому +40

      Miyazaki didn't have to cut him off

    • @riotguards
      @riotguards 2 роки тому +20

      And make it out like it never mattered

  • @ericcooke2661
    @ericcooke2661 2 роки тому +353

    I never thought of this but the Tanith knight might still be alive. A few of the Red invaders in the game have a real harder counterpart with which you can do battle. The Dungeater, Milicent's sisters, and Vyke are the ones I can remember off hand. I wonder if the Anastasia originally had a quest line since you fight her 3 times.

    • @finnlewis6207
      @finnlewis6207 2 роки тому +62

      Not to mention Millicent herself.

    • @Tackitt
      @Tackitt 2 роки тому +31

      where can you encounter Milicent's sisters? Aside from the invasion and the one summon at the commander.

    • @UsefulCompanion
      @UsefulCompanion 2 роки тому +19

      needs to be higher up, there might be hope for the questline reappearing in an update or DLC (like jar bairn etc.)
      Also to add to the list of invaders with a harder, real version, the Bell Bearing Hunters

    • @fishfiftie
      @fishfiftie 2 роки тому +43

      @@UsefulCompanion there is a real bell bearing Hunter. It’s Elmer of the Briar in the shaded castle

    • @cheng2006
      @cheng2006 2 роки тому +45

      @@fishfiftie ironically the caelid one is harder than the real one

  • @dynactin8908
    @dynactin8908 2 роки тому +121

    I always found it interesting, while trying to optimize builds, that the incantation dropped by this guy is the only Erdtree incantation that deals fire damage. I feel that is somehow relevant to the aforementioned grudge which could have been sort of a retroactive shaming when the age shifted and fire wasn't kosher anymore. If I helped establish an entire order and they told me I'm blaspheming by existing, I'd probably dip too.

    • @dynactin8908
      @dynactin8908 2 роки тому +30

      Also of note, whilst eld (as in elden) refers to being old in English, tracing the word etymologically through Norse or Saxon linguistics yields a reference to fire of all things. Lots to unpack.

  • @MrElmoMeTickle
    @MrElmoMeTickle 2 роки тому +300

    I always thought the Crucible Knights locations were remnants of where they had been assigned during the Golden Order's peak, either as bodyguards for the godlings or watchers for the Golden Order in case they went against the Two Fingers, and that Tanith's knight was just Rykard's that he had asked to watch over her as his wife. But it makes more sense with that background that he just betrayed the other Knights/Golden Order to embrace the Volcano manors philosophy

    • @glorytoukraine5524
      @glorytoukraine5524 2 роки тому +30

      The Crucible knights were before the Golden Order. They did end up serving Godfrey, but predate him. The Crucible is the divine force that reigned before the age of the Erdtree, and is what causes the Omen "curse." As far as I know, the misbegotten belong with it too. Once the Golden Order achieved dominance and Godfrey was shunned away, the Crucible Knights were either banished too or just ditched the order, due to what it did do the other peoples of the Crucible.

    • @MrElmoMeTickle
      @MrElmoMeTickle 2 роки тому +2

      @@glorytoukraine5524 Yes I know that about the Crucible and the Knights, but as far as I knew there was very little information about what they were chosen to do/forced to do after the events of the War with the Dragons. As I said, it was just speculation

    • @Scoobby96
      @Scoobby96 2 роки тому +19

      What just occurred to me is that those two knights were named after two Paleozoic eras: Ordovis after Ordovician and Silurnia after Silurian.

    • @MrElmoMeTickle
      @MrElmoMeTickle 2 роки тому +14

      @@Scoobby96 Which makes sense with the Crucible being such an ancient concept vs the modern Erdtree era.

    • @warriorwatch2406
      @warriorwatch2406 2 роки тому +5

      @@glorytoukraine5524 While the Crucible pre-dates Godfrey, there's not much evidence to suggest the Crucible Knights do.

  • @DogKacique
    @DogKacique 2 роки тому +316

    Actually, his name is Gug. Gug is in pain
    Joking aside, this makes me think that the Volcano Manor questline could have a good-aligned option where you hunt Volcano Manor members like Ordovis instead of hunting notably good tarnished

    • @gloriousporpoise9731
      @gloriousporpoise9731 2 роки тому +15

      If that came through I wonder would the Raging Wolf Vaarg have been an npc you help instead of fight. Maybe gifting you his armour after so you don't have to kill him for it

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 2 роки тому +21

      @@gloriousporpoise9731
      *Ironmouse:* This is Vaarg!
      *Vaarg:* Vaarg!
      *Ironmouse:* Vaarg is in pain :D

    • @AndrewDevourer
      @AndrewDevourer 2 роки тому +9

      gug.

    • @gloriousporpoise9731
      @gloriousporpoise9731 2 роки тому +8

      @@davidhong1934 I am the Vtuber of this Manor tanifh

    • @thesnatcher3616
      @thesnatcher3616 2 роки тому

      I mean isn't the Volcano Manor faction supposed to be kinda evil though? I mean look at the place and it's lord.

  • @LunaDeaminac
    @LunaDeaminac 2 роки тому +61

    Some times I wonder if they originally planned for every Demi-god/Outer god faction to have their own ending but things had to be cut for time. Considering the number of endings we already have that wouldn’t seem too unlikely.

    • @riotguards
      @riotguards 2 роки тому +24

      half the endings are basically a filter change and sky swap so they definitely were in a rush which is a shame

    • @Marxistnazi
      @Marxistnazi 2 роки тому +3

      It isn't fallout new Vegas. I think The engine fromsoft utilizes and the way they do their games in general isn't meant to handle overlap stories, branching questlines, and complex questlines. The script can't read that many sequences happening, especially in such a huge and unique world. The fact they included multiple endings, and questlines to achieve them, already is pushing the limits.

    • @Marxistnazi
      @Marxistnazi 2 роки тому +1

      @@riotguards they should've done more work on that though. That's pretty lame

  • @lubue5795
    @lubue5795 2 роки тому +276

    One of my biggest criticism for Elden Ring is that many quest, locations and NPS, once you're finished with them, just leave you with this "that's it?"
    And seeing how much stuff was apprently cut from the game, it now makes sense why that is.

    • @glorytoukraine5524
      @glorytoukraine5524 2 роки тому +19

      They sometimes add cut content in the DLC, so there's hoping

    • @Dinoman972
      @Dinoman972 2 роки тому +56

      @@glorytoukraine5524 They don't usually expand on basegame content, thought, they just repurpose the ideas into new stuff. Adding better NPC quests won't stop the old ones from feeling rushed.

    • @davidfrancisco3502
      @davidfrancisco3502 2 роки тому +9

      @@glorytoukraine5524 There's a scottish style armor set not available to the player used by a ghost NPC outside Of one the closed arenas.

    • @rainbowkrampus
      @rainbowkrampus 2 роки тому +25

      @@Dinoman972 They don't usually do big open world games either. There's lots of room for a change up in what we should expect.

    • @Knoloaify
      @Knoloaify 2 роки тому +30

      @@rainbowkrampus Don't set yourself up for disappointment.

  • @FizzieWebb
    @FizzieWebb 2 роки тому +82

    okay, but those stills of Zullie and Guilbert against the twin crucible knights are actually really cool. Like they could be freeze frames of an actual cutscene.

  • @hyperflares2879
    @hyperflares2879 2 роки тому +173

    I love the camera angles and tableaus you've been using lately, they're deeply artistic.

  • @starscythe2099
    @starscythe2099 2 роки тому +18

    Interesting to note he says he “dreams,” of fighting with us considering there is a whole cut quest and gameplay mechanic around dreams.

  • @tumorzoomer2813
    @tumorzoomer2813 2 роки тому +23

    For me, tanith's bodyguard is canonically named "Gug" because of max0r.

  • @Cassius609
    @Cassius609 2 роки тому +46

    Always love the king's field music

    • @MK-vi2cm
      @MK-vi2cm 2 роки тому +10

      FieldsCoreSoulsBorneKiroRing

  • @determiknight2533
    @determiknight2533 2 роки тому +267

    Actually, even though Ordovis became a different knight, Tanith straight up introduces her own knight as Gug. She even goes on to say that Gug is in pain, so even though fromsoft shifted the lore a bit there’s still so much background given to Gug and his burden.

    • @finefelo3688
      @finefelo3688 2 роки тому +72

      @man with a username I think they chose Tanith a wrong voice actor...

    • @davidhong1934
      @davidhong1934 2 роки тому +23

      @@finefelo3688
      Yeah, but Gug gets coupons for Tesco

    • @weaselly_moment
      @weaselly_moment 2 роки тому +12

      Gug

    • @maskedmenreiki
      @maskedmenreiki 2 роки тому +7

      @man with a username woosh

    • @beau9334
      @beau9334 2 роки тому +9

      Kids are cruel, Jack.

  • @ericmerrill9808
    @ericmerrill9808 2 роки тому +33

    Since there are only 16 of them. I kinda wish each Crucible Knight had a name. Maybe each could have had a little bit of lore and a couple extra crucible weapons. A mace or flail would have been a neat one. Or axe like a Godfrey’s.
    They’re one of my favorite bosses and I wish there was more to them.

    • @asdergold1
      @asdergold1 2 роки тому

      Gotta wonder if Ordovis' Greatsword was supposed to be a flail at some point.

  • @ES21007
    @ES21007 2 роки тому +49

    ... Between a double team of Crucible Knights after a chariot's grave fiesta and a 1v1 that can potentially be done after a few easy invasions and a gimmick boss, OG Crucible Knight equipment sounds waaaaaay more accessible.

    • @AceAviations2
      @AceAviations2 2 роки тому +1

      If you use the shackles designed for Margit/Morgott and Mohg you don't need to do the entire dungeon to deal with the chariots. Just reach the opening to the downward ramp to the boss and use the shackle. It'll trigger the thing to move and you can walk forward enough to trigger it and destroy the chariots pretty much right away. Also they made the boss a bit more tolerable in a recent patch (1.04 or 1.05).
      That is unless they patched it in 1.06 like the Leyndell skip.

  • @bluebokoblin
    @bluebokoblin 2 роки тому +83

    I really enjoy this type of content with just little tidbits of lore. Keep it up!

    • @DuelJ007
      @DuelJ007 2 роки тому +2

      My brother in christ you've not even had time to finish the video

    • @KaroxNightshade
      @KaroxNightshade 2 роки тому +1

      @@DuelJ007 2x speed bay bee

    • @bluebokoblin
      @bluebokoblin 2 роки тому

      @@DuelJ007 he figured me out

  • @Jake19774TW
    @Jake19774TW 2 роки тому +60

    This area reminds me a lot of Darkroot garden before the Artorias DLC came out. It had so many unique and unexplained connections to other locations and characters like Artorias, Dusk and the Abyss. It was never clear why Artorias's grave was there or why the hydra, something descended from dragons, was so far away from Ash lake. I think the DLC will delve into The Crucible and the other Outer Gods mentioned so I imagine we'll get a lot of connections explained

  • @rion7720
    @rion7720 2 роки тому +16

    He may used to be somebody, but now we know him as Gug

  • @PierceArner
    @PierceArner 2 роки тому +29

    With Patches' quest being expanded in an early patch, and how he initially seems to die upon giving you the castanets for Tanith, it seems like there was some bigger plan to lead into that confrontation that was never finished or was shifted as Ordovis' identity changed.
    Especially with Siluria being in Deeproot Depths, I wonder if the two of them were intended to have both been linked to later game quests that were scrapped.

  • @blakebailey22
    @blakebailey22 2 роки тому +5

    The iconic image of the Crucible Knight next to Tanith has a new meaning with the name Gug

  • @Bleuf0963
    @Bleuf0963 2 роки тому +13

    The Crucible Knights are perhaps the coolest knights in the game. It's such a shame we didn't get to see or learn more of them and their likes. Ordovis' cut questline especially.

  • @nnogoda
    @nnogoda 2 роки тому +7

    From all you've found and shown so far it feels like so much was moved around or removed from the game, which is a shame. i realize there are limitations but, they missed out on so many good storylines. Super awesome work though! thanks Zullie!

  • @Rjkay45
    @Rjkay45 2 роки тому +4

    One thing to note is that when you fight Tanith’s Knight he and Ordovis are the only crucible knights to use the spinny aoe attack

  • @Soul._.Seeker
    @Soul._.Seeker 2 роки тому +21

    I remember Zullie posting this kind of stuff daily like few months back his/her channel used to be everywhere, other channels like demodcracy or sunlight blade also mentioned you! You are a true legend and I hope you keep going!

  • @miamiswacket803
    @miamiswacket803 2 роки тому +11

    His name is Gug.

  • @PressRToZeus
    @PressRToZeus 2 роки тому +5

    I love the effort you put into making screen shots and what if's using character models and stuff. Your videos have such great cinematography

  • @SnazBrigade
    @SnazBrigade 2 роки тому +5

    other note about Ordovis and Siluria, both named after long-past geologic eras. The Ordovician and Silurian, periods following the Cambrian and before the Devonian.

    • @JFTC709
      @JFTC709 2 роки тому +3

      Which were both named after Celtic tribes

    • @GobPalRosieVT
      @GobPalRosieVT 2 роки тому

      Was looking for this comment

  • @overthinker8959
    @overthinker8959 2 роки тому +8

    Somebody we used to know?

  • @pibbles_
    @pibbles_ 2 роки тому +9

    Depending on where we leave off after the inevitable DLC, I think Elden Ring could greatly benefit from the SOTFS treatment to reimplement cut content and finish stuff that went unfinished to meet the deadline. I doubt it'll happen but it would be cool if it did

    • @gb9884
      @gb9884 2 роки тому +6

      Scholar of the first ring.

    • @gloriousporpoise9731
      @gloriousporpoise9731 2 роки тому

      I don't think a scholar of the first sin edition would be the best course since that HEAVILY altered many aspects from the base hame. ER getting a huge update in the style of no man's sky would be fine tho

    • @pibbles_
      @pibbles_ 2 роки тому +1

      @@gloriousporpoise9731 I mean i think SOTFS was all around an immense improvement over the base game, and with how many people have already played Elden ring to death and burnt out on it, I think heavily altering is a good course of action. Of course in reality this will never happen since Elden ring sold like fuckin crazy and they have no reason to rerelease it like that, but still

    • @gloriousporpoise9731
      @gloriousporpoise9731 2 роки тому

      @@pibbles_ oh yeah SOTFS was an improvement all around but messing with ERs enemy placement would seem odd at least on new characters

  • @slicksilver2961
    @slicksilver2961 2 роки тому +16

    I always thought this crucible knight was oddly placed since he seems to be the only one living in blasphemy as opposed to the other knights who still preform their duties. I had always worked it out in my head that the original Ordovis was sworn to Rykard and or Tanith, but him being a betrayer makes a lot more sense, since even the knights sworn to Rykard rose against him after he was consumed.

    • @Chaffee738
      @Chaffee738 2 роки тому +2

      Yep they're an outlier according to an Elden Ring Steam post. All others, no matter where they're found, are still loyal to Godfrey.

  • @LordDoom10
    @LordDoom10 2 роки тому +10

    Well, we now have a new name for him: Gug.

  • @SethGGGGG
    @SethGGGGG 2 роки тому +6

    Awesome set pieces for the visuals you set up! I really liked the one where the knight was opening the door in volcano manor and the other where your character is having the double fight with the two knights.

  • @thiev7
    @thiev7 2 роки тому +34

    I remember being so mad when I realised that there was no quest or lore surrounding this guy. I was also really upset in general that everything in the volcano manor questline felt so unfinished. I hope they do something about Tanith's questline one day tho my hopes aren't high

    • @Jeffmetal42
      @Jeffmetal42 2 роки тому +12

      As much as I enjoyed ER I feel that way about a good portion of the game. World wise they did a great job creating the Lands Between but imo they didn't do very well fleshing it out (outside of the usual item descriptions and whatnot). I hope they go back to a more focused style of game, or at the very least take this as a learning experience to better flesh out future open world games they may create.

    • @thiev7
      @thiev7 2 роки тому +3

      @@Jeffmetal42 I wholeheartedly agree. I had such high hopes for the story for ER since darksouls/Bloodborne etc were such bangers in terms of lore and story, but elden ring just really fell flat for me. So much is left unanswered and parts of the lore straight up just make no sense because of the amount of scrapped content that they never bothered to tidy up. It's really frustrating

    • @thiev7
      @thiev7 2 роки тому

      @@Jeffmetal42 and I agree that if they do make an ER 2 or another open world they will most likely learn from their mistakes. Fromsoft is generally good like that

    • @lordanonimmo7699
      @lordanonimmo7699 2 роки тому +1

      @@thiev7 Bro if you think ER cut content is bad look at any other souls game,cut content in ER doesnt change much unlike previous games who changee the lore entirely during development.

    • @Jeffmetal42
      @Jeffmetal42 2 роки тому

      @@thiev7 yea, I have a lot of faith in From as a dev company, their track record is pretty solid so I never really worry about them. I do have my gripes with them but that's the same for most things in the world, no one is perfect.

  • @lorenzopacheco6651
    @lorenzopacheco6651 2 роки тому +2

    When I was new to the game, I first thought that the loading screen of Tanith and her Crucible Knight were the 'Two Fingers.'

  • @nathanjora7627
    @nathanjora7627 2 роки тому +10

    "this one feels especially unfortunate, because it sort of undercut some of the buildup from showcasing the image of Tanith and her knight."
    Feels very reminiscent of the feeling I had in regard to the fire prelate.
    In the trailer it was this imposing and threatening presence guarding this very formal looking room, and in the end it's just a fat guy that defends a small empty castle and a path to the giant.

  • @shadow168393
    @shadow168393 2 роки тому +2

    I LOVE hearing Subterranean Graveyard.

  • @greyfox2344
    @greyfox2344 2 роки тому +10

    Volcano manor was wild for me because it alone was the size of some other games' entire maps. Here I was 100 hours into the game and then finding the manor makes me think so highly of the devs. Cut content or not, we got a very good game. Hyped for more.

    • @randyk_18
      @randyk_18 2 роки тому +2

      It isn't remotely close to the size of other maps and this game is overrated af.

    • @greyfox2344
      @greyfox2344 2 роки тому +1

      @@randyk_18 From whatever is troubling you, I hope you find peace. God bless you.

  • @SlipcasedCoffee
    @SlipcasedCoffee 2 роки тому +3

    your videos are amazingly aesthetic, i love the music 🤤

  • @ByRoyalCommandV
    @ByRoyalCommandV 2 роки тому +18

    For those that know, I petition we call him Gug.

  • @rhysofsneezingdragon1758
    @rhysofsneezingdragon1758 2 роки тому +32

    His name is Gug. Gug is In pain

  • @msal
    @msal 2 роки тому +5

    "A more accessible location."
    Not what I would use to describe chariot graves

  • @Sinphanius
    @Sinphanius 2 роки тому +2

    Y'know I think this is probably the only time in history that someone will ever describe The Auriza Hero's Grave as a "More Accessible Location".

    • @ZullietheWitch
      @ZullietheWitch  2 роки тому +2

      To be honest, I had about as much trouble with the Crucible Duo as I did with Malenia. Those two need to lay off the pressure a bit.

  • @AuronDzilk
    @AuronDzilk 2 роки тому +2

    This could had been magnificent. Time to create a backstory that would make more sense for every single one of the knights as a fan fiction dlc xD

  • @jakekneega7400
    @jakekneega7400 2 роки тому +9

    Whatdya mean, Zullie? Tanith the Virtual UA-camr's knight is named Gug, and Gug is in pain, as are we all.

  • @kollatt
    @kollatt 2 роки тому +1

    i always enjoy your music choices.

  • @kraosdadafusfus8034
    @kraosdadafusfus8034 2 роки тому +4

    His name is Gug. Gug is in pain.

  • @MrQuickrebuttle
    @MrQuickrebuttle 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing with how big Elden Ring is in scope, it keeps seeming like it was meant to be a LOT bigger and even more detailed. From continues to never disappoint

  • @LukeRobertsArt
    @LukeRobertsArt 2 роки тому +4

    He'll always be Ordovis in my heart

  • @voxfoxclips8684
    @voxfoxclips8684 Рік тому +1

    Man, I wish there wasn't so much cut content like this.

  • @scarabmango
    @scarabmango 2 роки тому +6

    These guys were tough. Basically like Black Knights with fancy new moves, and not able to be backstabbed. The kind of foes who made me do a cost-benefit analysis when I saw them.

    • @daeryxaqueryx
      @daeryxaqueryx 2 роки тому

      I'm currently at Auriza Hero's Grave fighting Ordovis and his pal and let me tell you, the experience of those death chariots and fighting these two Crucible Knights is making me deeply furious. :P

    • @scarabmango
      @scarabmango 2 роки тому +1

      @@daeryxaqueryx I went back to one of the Graves just to blow up a chariot, even though I had cleared the level. I just wanted, NEEDED, to see one of those things DIE.

    • @daeryxaqueryx
      @daeryxaqueryx 2 роки тому

      @@scarabmango lol. I don't blame you--85% of the irritability of this level is due to those chariots. I, too, went back after defeating the Crucible Knights just to clear the level and get all the goodies (Tree Sentinel Armor Set) from destroying the chariots. Unfortunately I was facing the wrong way, so I didn't see the chariots collide with each other. Would have been nice to see them go to hell, but it was nice to walk the ramps without feeling paranoid for once.
      In fact, this level was so mentally taxing that after I finished it, I went back to the grave entrance outside, had my character sit by a cliff in the cross-legged sitting gesture, and zoned out for about five minutes. It was THAT exhausting.

  • @noid6621
    @noid6621 2 роки тому +2

    His name is Gug, and you will respect him.

  • @TheActualMrLink
    @TheActualMrLink 2 роки тому +7

    It’s Gug!

  • @ni1ix
    @ni1ix 2 роки тому +6

    I dont know what you mean, his name is clearly Gug!

  • @paoloscavalcacinghie428
    @paoloscavalcacinghie428 6 місяців тому +1

    Now he's just somebody that we used to know.

  • @c-sar5395
    @c-sar5395 2 роки тому +3

    So that's why Gug was in pain.

  • @allenlieske2024
    @allenlieske2024 2 роки тому

    Can we just appreciate at how much attention this person gives to not just games but from other sources to create complex but interesting theories?

  • @32bitosserc84
    @32bitosserc84 2 роки тому +6

    Scuse me! His name is Gug! He is in pain!

  • @Wholesome_Dungaree-Wearer
    @Wholesome_Dungaree-Wearer 2 роки тому

    Your camera work for this video is great and really pays off.

  • @exzyyd392
    @exzyyd392 2 роки тому +6

    His name is obviously Grug and he is in immense pain

  • @PyroManic-cn9cg
    @PyroManic-cn9cg 2 роки тому +2

    “Gug is in pain.” “Aren’t we all.”

  • @DagobahResident
    @DagobahResident 2 роки тому +4

    Hey Zullie, do you have a photo album or something of some of these freeze-frames you pose the characters in for these videos? Some of them would make killer desktop wallpapers!

  • @TehSymbiote
    @TehSymbiote 2 роки тому +1

    every video is a banger with interesting info

  • @nophion2-electricboogaloo647
    @nophion2-electricboogaloo647 2 роки тому +11

    Excuse me Zullie but this Crucible Knight has a name. His name is Gug and he is in pain.

  • @Dori205
    @Dori205 2 роки тому +2

    You culd say he was somebody that we used to know

  • @dandragon01
    @dandragon01 2 роки тому +4

    The more deep dives into Elden Ring, the more some stages of this game feel rushed out. Maybe thats not the case, but there are several elements that seemed to have been hastily swapped around or placed back in, between the in game map differences between patches and certain questlines being given an ending after launch.
    Then again, game development and the changes the occur during it are a hellish beast. Perhaps rearranging the pieces was in order to make all of this more coherent in the eyes of the developers. Sometimes you notice things don’t work after it’s already out.

    • @gloriousporpoise9731
      @gloriousporpoise9731 2 роки тому +1

      It does feel like they wanted more time but it's really telling that even after cutting many pieces of content from the game it's still fucking amazing and launched with not many bugs on console at leats

  • @hiddenshadow2105
    @hiddenshadow2105 2 роки тому +1

    Ordovia and Siluria also are names for Ordovician-Silurian extinction, one of the biggest extinctions of life in Earth's history.
    I think that with them being Crucible Knights and sea often referrred as "crucible of life" + Crucible described in Elden Ring as this primordial force where everything was meshed with every other life form, there meant to be a clear parallel here.

  • @SalvageET
    @SalvageET 2 роки тому +3

    In the cut dialogue of Guilbert, he says he is off to Stormveil castle right after congratulating you for defeating Ordovis. Progression wise, the only Crucible Knight you are meant to fight before Stormveil is the one in the Evergaol, could Ordovis have been placed there previously? Since first of the recycled bosses you fight are often significant (Darriwil who was in some way connected to Ranni or Rennala, Leonine Misbegotten who led the uprising in Castle Morne and stole a legendary artefact, Agheel who has a lake named after him etc.) I think it’s possible that the first Crucible Knight you fight was also planned to be more than a nameless enemy with no unique lore.

    • @ZullietheWitch
      @ZullietheWitch  2 роки тому +2

      It's possible, but it should be noted that dialogue isn't always necessarily in progression order in the files.

  • @오주환-b1n
    @오주환-b1n 2 роки тому +2

    “Gug.”
    “Gug is in pain!”
    “Aren’t we all.”

  • @GKinWor
    @GKinWor 2 роки тому +4

    society :(

  • @Razruer
    @Razruer 2 роки тому

    All I can think when I see that title was 'BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT ME OUT'

  • @RysenKai
    @RysenKai 2 роки тому +4

    "Gug"

  • @bubblinebee
    @bubblinebee 2 роки тому +2

    Interestingly there was a news post on steam four weeks ago (August 2nd) with a cryptic message:
    "The majority of these powerful warriors served but *one master.*
    Think not of the outlier, gone to the Volcano Manor. His exception demonstrates the rule."
    So I wonder if this was a hint to something? Perhaps some of this content won't be fully unused after all.

  • @SpecShadow
    @SpecShadow 2 роки тому +4

    He's in pain.
    Aren't we all?

  • @mr.toothy
    @mr.toothy 2 роки тому +1

    A shame this was cut, but i actually like what they did with the two named Crucible Knights. Both of them are Guarding things that where important to their former master Godfrey. Ordovis is guarding a famed Hero’s grave in Altus, and Siluria is guarding his son Godwyn’s corpse. And I actually like that the manor knight remains unnamed and we are never given an explanation to why he’s their, allows you to draw your own conclusions.

  • @damianvilaperez7144
    @damianvilaperez7144 2 роки тому +4

    but he has name, Gug, and Gug is in pain

  • @emulsion_
    @emulsion_ 2 роки тому

    I don't know how often it gets said in the comments but it's always such a treat to learn a little more lore from your channel, and the bite sized format is an absolute breath of fresh air. Thank you!

  • @londonjolly9174
    @londonjolly9174 2 роки тому +5

    His name is Gug, duh.

  • @Galiardde
    @Galiardde 2 роки тому +2

    I love when you use this OST for videos

  • @Graff-z4x
    @Graff-z4x 2 роки тому +1

    I always felt like he wanted to say something.

  • @PioApocalypse
    @PioApocalypse 2 роки тому +2

    "This is Gug"
    - Gug!
    "Gug is in pain"

  • @Nick-mp1zh
    @Nick-mp1zh 2 роки тому +1

    Tanith’s knight is canonically named Gug and you can’t convince me otherwise. He is in pain

  • @kommentier9884
    @kommentier9884 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks Zullie for all your work

  • @deathound
    @deathound 2 роки тому +1

    What’s weird though is they’ve left equipment behind even more obscure things, having it be only dropped by the crucible knight after attacking Tanis would genuinely have been better and made more sense.

  • @Illuyankas
    @Illuyankas 2 роки тому +1

    Losing his original purpose in life, no wonder he was in pain

  • @StainlessPot
    @StainlessPot 2 роки тому +2

    Would it necessarily be betrayal for a crucible knight to join the volcano manor?
    The crucible isn't the same as the erdtree after all. He may very well be looking to return to his roots.

  • @clockworkserpent
    @clockworkserpent 2 роки тому

    Love these short, sweet, deep dives into lore, also love your work from Bloodborne 😭👌legit saved me so much time with tomb prospecting when I went back and played an arcane build. Also helped me platinum the game

  • @itstimeforacrusadeparrythi9722
    @itstimeforacrusadeparrythi9722 2 роки тому +1

    He was somebody that we used to know

  • @maxord11
    @maxord11 2 роки тому +1

    He is forever Gug to me. And Gug is in pain.

  • @renegade6578
    @renegade6578 Рік тому

    Imagine having the Volcano Manor aid your mission to fight against the Golden Order and having this Knight fight its bretheren alongside you

  • @johnhogan8327
    @johnhogan8327 2 роки тому

    Production value on this video going hard