Plini - Handmade Cities (Audio)
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- 2nd track from the debut album "HANDMADE CITIES" out August 26.
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Troy Wright - drums
Simon Grove - bass
Plini - everything else.
Drums recorded at Wright Drum School Studios and mixed at Nerve Studios by Simon Grove.
Composed, arranged, produced & mixed by Plini in a bedroom in Sydney.
Mastered by Ermin Hamidovic at Systematic Productions.
Artwork by Alex Pryle at Esper Visual Co.
©2016 PLINI.
To be honest more people are going to look into Plini after the Doja Cat performance, that's prog metal being put right in the spotlight which doesn't happen often if at all.
Yes. I was never even angry that they used it. I was angry that they did not even ask plini's permission. Now that it has million views and much criticism THEN they actually start trying to right the wrong. Well better late than never
@@chadmarx7718 this song has more views than the Doja cat song, also they’re both different enough for them not to involve plini the arranger gave him credit and said he meant for it to sound like plini they already gave him credit for that part and plini wasn’t the only one that inspired the arrangement that doja did
@@eVoxlilbigslash dude i hope you realize that a million views in 4 years is completely different from a million views in 2 days and a half.
With that being said I think I agree that the "stolen bit" was way too short compared to the full song to even ask for permission.
Artists quote other artists they like all the time, the real problem was that after being called out and admitting he took the riff idea from Plini, he doubled down and mocked him with another post. So not a professional behavior at all
So you be saying, he got paid in exposure?
@@bennymountain1 ahaha it happens at all levels right? At least this is some "real" exposure so to speak.
Sooo happy Doja Cat's EMA performance somehow introduced me to Plini's beautiful sound.
Welcome to Pliniverse.
Welcome to the best Prog metal Instrumental composer out there
Same!!!
Same
@Sparky Z 2:50 in Dojas song, 3:27 in this song
We built this city on Djent and prog.
Doesn't quite role off the tongue
TundraL5Z bit of a stretch but I appreciate the leap
gotta love many things in here
this is the greatest comment on YT right now
LMAO!!!
This is like happy music for angry people. I love it so much.
Everything is just right, as if there's no possible way to improve it.
you captured it perfectly. just like Plini , frkn amazing
Very well said! This is what totally feels to me!
Actually there IS one way to improve it. Have more of it
Ryan Daniels that’s the best 🤣
This is happy music for happy people.
she didn’t even noticed
I came here just to check for myself. I guess others noticed too. But hey, maybe Plini actually collabed.
@@hiroprotagonitis Yea, I saw it after I posted the comment.
@@hiroprotagonitis Which one?
@@Xirdrak the one plini uses to tweet
@@hiroprotagonitis lol
3:28. My goodness. So many musical things happening at that moment. The driving half time in 4, the tone, a tasteful bass drop, the rhythm guitar magic, but frick this dude places his themes in THE BEST places. The man is a melodic and motif genius.
I JUST realized he uses the same melody at the end as he does in the somber solo earlier on. But the second time around it's totally triumphant. Been listening for years now.
dude.
you have officially identified THEGOODPART
And the subtle bass drop as well when it hits!
@@alexwr THIS！Have you tried listening to that part with a decent pair of headphones? It's epic!
Doja Cat: I'm going to use your riff
Plini: Why didnt you say so!
I think it would have been really fucking cool if plini came on stage and played the solo
Hahaha nice one!
Who’s here after Doja cats performance?
😂
It doesn’t sound much like Doja’s arrangement.....
It doesnt even sound like it
I'm giving this a listen and can't find the part where it sounds alike dojas performance
But this is a really cool song, loved it and am glad I found out about Plini
Me and I hear no similarities what's so ever 🤷♀️
For anyone looking for the similarities with Doja Cat's live rock performance of "Say So", go to 2:50 in Doja Cat's video and listen to the underlying guitar riff (not the lead guitar in the solo). Then go to 3:27 in this video and do the same thing.
similar but not the same...
Definitely not the same.
Sounds like every generic prog djent to me.
@@metal1254 dude the rythm guitar and timing and key is literally the same
Yeah it sounds pretty different. I was expecting it to be in your face identical.
I STOPPED EVERYTHING I WAS DOING AND LISTENED AS SOON AS I SAW THIS IN MY SUB BOX
Preach
SAMEE!!
same af
yup cuz that's the sniz
You should cover this one man! :D
S I M O N G R O V E
*groove ahahah
@@MatteoRacconeMUSIC grove**
Artefato perdido de Magic it was just a joke, I know it’s grove 😊
@@MatteoRacconeMUSIC relax :P
I literally had tears rolling down my eyes at 3:28. Such a powerful part of the song.
Exactly. After first couple listens it's the most goosebumps moment.
I absolutely agree.
Yeah dude, its incredible epic!. I have a question, which program/instrument/ can i do that shit?
I'm assuming your talking about the sharp transition right before the hook reprise?
Guitar. Looking at Plini's tabs (on sheethappens), its a couple dead strums and then hitting a natural harmonic like your life depends on it.
Bro this part hits me so hard eh, its gorgeous.
This is the 2nd song I've heard by Plini as I only just discovered him a few minutes ago. I gotta say this is effin' sublime. I've been missing out.
Same. Fucking A.
Literally same
Listen to Sunhead if you haven't yet brother
The amount of groove in this song makes me so happy. Troy Wright is a great addition to your music Plini. Absolutely beautiful
What about Simon Groove on the bass?
He already played on The End of Everything
That was Marco Minnemann ^^^^
He is talking about the bass player.....
Kevin Wade did Troy record live drums or is he just the touring drummer for plini?
Who had good speakers enough to hear the deep bass drop at 3:28 ?
Ye it's nice
yes! real nice touch! Baooooooom! 😍
that shit was dope
Yesss. Seinheiser hd6 headphones. I definitely recommend
Still sounded badass on iPhone earbuds.
does the song sound similar yes, do that mean doja intentionally copied it? no. If you take into account that music, mathematically, has a number of different ways you can put measures together with factors there are bound to be similarities. I'm also betting Doja didn't write the guitar solo, considering she didn't play it. so I guarantee she wasn't trying to intentionally copy. My bet is a writing team came up with something for the performance, based off doja's idea, and someone who was on the writing team had heard this song before and it was just in their head subconsciously when they were writing the guitar part it doesn't mean she was stealing it, but in that case they should give credit. She had a good performance.
yeah like the guy commented, but also it is kind of obviously influenced by Plini and not just coincidence. The Rhythm could be coincidence, but the ending phrase sounds exactly like handmade cities too which together with the similar rhythm gives it away.
It literally uses the same Rythm and motifs in a part of the MTV arrangement
Exactly
Foh, that shit was a rip off
@Save4321 I agree, I just feel bad because every headline is "DOJA COPIED." To combat this though doja should talk to Plini and work something out, even if it wasn't her that wrote it.
That bass tone changed me forever.
They played this live the other night. The bass sounded just as good in the room. :D So good!
I'm extremely jealous. I've yet to see plini live One day!
People : “i hear no similarities between this and Dojas song”
Some of you need a lesson in selective listening. the bass line is more for note in Doja cats song, and if they had actually released the song and tried to profit off it, would be grounds for legal action.
This right here is the truth.
One could make the case for the baseline. The connecting notes between the major chords are awfully similar.
The entire rhythm section and chord progression because staccato crunchy guitar? not so much... Would need to go back to early 80s metal to find the progenitor of that. Plini doesn't own that IP.
Some other thoughts to ponder-
Katy Perry Dark Horse - co writer/Producer **Dr Luke** : Flame Joyful noise
Doja Cat Say So - co writer/Producer **Dr Luke** : Plini Handmade Cities
We sure we are barking up the right tree here? Just coincidence?
@@samplesn the bassline is what was stolen, end of story-we dont need to even talk about the rhythm section. doja and her band have both apologized to plini publicly and personally, so i would ask you to do the same and ponder if an apology is required, they were probably doing something wrong.
@@Terminusz
Maybe an apology is required but it is meaningless to come from Doja cat.
If plagiarism occurred it will be found in the original non-metal version also. Which I think is supported when one listens to the baseline there. I think you and I are on the same page that the rhythm guitar and rhythm section in general are not what the issue is here but I would say a lot of other people seem to disagree with that.
If Plini is going to claim this then he needs to gather the courage and go after who really stole his IP.
I don't think anyone believes Doja cat herself came up with the metal arrangement used for this version.
Dr Luke co wrote and produced the original version with the baseline lifted from Plini.
The very same Dr Luke who co-wrote Dark Horse (Katy Perry) which also lifted a hook from a relatively unknown artist (Flame).
I'm glad Doja cat apologized because it shows she takes her art at least a little seriously.
We are starting to identify a trend here with Dr Luke however. He appears to "data mine" relatively unknown artists for riffs and hooks and incorporates them into his work and makes a ton of money doing so and never gets called out directly.
And I can understand Plini's hesitation in calling out Dr Luke after the whole drama between Dr Luke and Kesha. But I also think it's a bit disingenuous to call out Doja cat only. And I am just guessing here but I figure the talks between Plini and Doja involved a bit more than just the two artists.
The truth is it took this metal version for all of us to notice the plagiarism of the base melody and rhythm, but it has always been there.
Whoever says they don’t hear the similarities between this arrangement and Doja Cat’s song are ignorant.
I really don't. An I don't care for doja at all lol. The solo's don't sound the same at all.
@@crowing3886 it’s not the solo, it’s the rhythm guitar part and the motif and the end of the phrase.
@@crowing3886 it’s the whole rythm section at the end they stole
@@crowing3886 because is a permitted shameless rip off
Oh no i totally hear it. I just think there's only so many chords in this world. Similar yes. Same nah. Rip off? Could be.
Thought I had almost lost my greatest passion! listening to this song made me pick up my guitar again. finally playing after a long and very depressing 6 to 8 hours of not playing at all.. phew. THANK YOU PLINI I LOVE YOU GUYSES FINGERS AND MUSCLE MEMORIES SO MUCH OMG!
Try 2 years man. Like riding a bike.
im currently riding on 4 years with no playing, the spark just disappeared, to my drama in the industry
After stopping drugs it dissapeared but I feel like coming back
@@Paintedbynurgle Man, I know what that's like. I stopped playing for maybe 6 years after giving up on my 'music dream' and getting into regular work. The trick for getting back into playing for me was to let all the layers of background pressure to succeed fall away, and just have fun with it. It's easier said than done, but once it starts to happen the magic can slowly come back. :)
I'm pretty sure Heaven is like Plini songs but with Jesus on vocals
Teddy Light nah, Jesus is playing air guitar, trust me. I'm a doctor.
I'm pretty sure heavenly vocals would not detract from the power guys lol
Just the One, the true Most High God
Jesus on vocal and god the father on guitar lol
Jesus already does vocals on this song, we just cant comprehend it
That main lead part is probably the most beautiful thing I've ever heard.
Prog has been comming back to life these past few years, but now it's just screaming the hell pure joy !
Damn Right. still going strong!
What’s prog
@@jillmont3342 progressive rock, it's a genre
The prog rock/metal/djent movement is elevating everything. The musicians are raising the bar in every way & it's just exploding into something wonderful.
Little message to musicians or nerd: Have you remarked that most of Plini's songs , or Plini's "vibe" come from the Lydian mode. It is obsessing... This song and the record are wonderful
I get some Frank Gambale influences in his playing! very tasteful
all the prog rock bands, chon, polyphia, intervals do the same
Louis Menard i didn't realize this but i'm going to pay closer attention now!
Yeah it's very interesting (and beautiful) ! The verse in this song is really pure Lydian (at least the first part of it) as well as the last climax :)
Lots of Dorian too!
As a drummer, 4:05 has to be my favorite part where Troy goes rogue while everyone else stays the same only to come back to the providing the backbeat at 4:33. Too bad they don't play this live :(
they play this live now all the time if you get a chance to go see them.
Absolutely brilliant !
Boulevard des Airs écoutent donc du metal-fusion-prog-instrumental,
je comprends la volonté de vivre de la musique mais vous pourriez arrêtez de chier une musique radiophonique à ce point insupportable si vous n'êtes pas que cynisme,
On Plini. Thank you for making ur lives so much richer and deeper and showing us things we may have missed without you journiing to the underworld and bringing them back for us...the beauty, the depth, the spaces, the textures, soft place my tired brain can find safty in....Rumi and I wonder who you are Plini - As you circle the stone tower....are you a falcon, the wind or a song?
Oh yessss! So happy I got to find you through Doja even under the circumstances. I miss the early 2000’s style metal and kind of never moved from replaying those albums from my favorite musicians. I really enjoy your work! 💕
Who else do you like?
Song Structure For: Plini - Handmade Cities:
(This is an experimental song, because of that, it doesn't have chorus or verse parts.)
0:00 - 0:20 Treble rhytm layer 1 + Bass rhytm layer 1 (İntro)
0:20 - 0:28 Talkbox layer
0:28 - 0:56 Talkbox layer + Guitar improv melody layer 1
0:56 - 1:15 Talkbox layer + Treble rhytm layer 2
1:15 - 1:34 Treble rhytm layer 2 (modified in the mix) + Bass improv melody layer 1
1:34 - 2:13 Treble rhytm layer 2 (modified in the mix) + Guitar improv melody layer 2 + "a" shape vocal choir sound
2:11 - 2:13 Transition rhytm 1 for listener. it's trying to say: this section ends.
2:13 - 2:26 Clean reverb chord layer 1
2:26 - 2:49 Clean reverb chord layer 1 + Treble rhytm layer 3 + slow drum hi hats.
2:49 - 2:50 Transition drum fill 1
2:50 - 3:06 Plini's sweep picking section.
3:06 - 3:08 Transition drum fill 2
3:08 - 3:23 Gtr Riff layer 1 + drums
3:23 - 3:28 Transition rhytm 2
3:28 - 4:45 Guitar improv melody layer 1 (fade out in the mix) + Bass rhytm layer 2 + Treble rhytm layer 1 (Outro)
🤓
I’m so late to the party but this is outrageously awesome
It has taken me 4 years and my first set of studio monitors to hear that sub drop at 3:28...it really caught me off guard
So because of the Loudwire article about Dojo Cat, I now know about you! This is awesome.
This song makes me feel like I'm gliding along a moving sidewalk, gradually making my way through a beautiful wasteland of increasing grandeur and entrancing destruction.
I came here after Doja. I do think it sounds really similar.
More importantly, it sounds good
Yea it sounds awesome but I HONESTLY couldn't hear it
i don't really hear the similarities, i think y'all are reaching for relevancy... but hey, thats just me
The rhythm guitar part is literally the same for an entire section, give and take a couple of alterations, but it's still very on the nose and the main motif of the both are also the exactly the same.
It's hard to hear the difference because the two solos laid over the top are different. Ignore the solos and compare 3:28 of this song to 2:50 of doja's. You can hear an almost identical riff in the background.
Doja's musical director admitted flat out on social media he lifted the riff. your point is irrelevant
@@saddingus1331 0ooo0oo burn, I guess.
That song that plays in the sky at 6 o'clock when the brilliance of all the suns illuminates the galaxy
All the quintuplets and groupings of 5 that are hidden in this song make my life complete
clicked 'like' before I even heard it. just cause I know I will love it 💓💓💓
same XD
Yup.
same!
I have said before, it's like Plini can do no wrong. Musically, at least, haha!
I can't express how much I love and appreciate Plini and his brilliant team. They brought a wave with them, a wave that took us to an island previously undiscovered.
Team?
Tremendous music, rich sounding and colourful, very original.
I can hear some Vai & Devin Townsend in there :)
Some people: Who’s here because of Doja Cat????
Me: That’s would be me😗
This is a really good song by itself and I’m glad I gave it a listen. @ 3:28 I do hear the similarity between the songs, but it’s not exact. If you played them right next to each other you could prob hear the difference and similarities between the two.
They definitely made alterations to it, but the parts taken from this song are very on the nose
You don’t play an instrument I assume so hearing what is actually going on can be difficult and it shows. The rythm guitar in this song is almost identical to that in the Doja MTV performance.
@@jonasmartinsen3439 Yeah I definitely hear it. Can't deny it. As long as they're chill about it, I'm chill about it. Plus it led me to giving them a listen.✌🏽😁✌🏽
@@tijasialett3517 Glad you listened, he has some music coming soon so make sure to stick around
So Plini himself clarified the situation and he's pretty cool about it but he says the situation is being sorted so I guess that means he's getting paid... would've been cool to settle it before hand but at least it's not turning into a huge drama xD
so glad plini's getting the recognition he deserves now :)
Cool sounds like math rock. Getting Dance, Gavin Dance vibes. :) Oh here from Doja Cat video! (Which was AMAZING btw) ❤️❤️❤️
3:28
That bass...so subtle, but my ears perked up especially for that.
Plini is Goku’s favorite band
Why this song makes me cry?
How does someone write something this perfect? I really don't understand
this dojo cat song is sick! ;)
can't believe after three years of obsessive listening i still hear new things in every song on this album. took me three years to hear that big 5:4 in the outro
What an awesome song. I especially liked the mellow middle section.
I also made a short cover of that, would be glad if some of you find time to check it out :)
well done, sounds sick
2:50
Plini talk to Ae about transition be like : I need 1/8 not, with stereo Lfo, distortion, punchy drum attack, put thicc harmonization, fat bassy, 1/16 not to the second guitar, which also stereo but give it a little phase to it.
actually u know wat, scratch dat.... put everything just put everything, yes ?
fucking incredible. Your music has always been an inspiration.
I can't express the way I'm feeling rn listening to this song its like watching a sun rise and you're very happy but it's not THAT HAPPY it has that dreamy vibe its like the happy ending music to a big story.
wait that's lydian.
Loving the Jeff Beck influence, best song in the album
3:27 is just ridiculously good
what a beautiful song... love when Plini re invents and surprises like this... just... wow
Didn't she noticed? - *thankful to Doja tho for bringing me here.
lol
I'm a guitarist but I can't help air drumming to this song, I love it!!
3:08 Troy plz
Plz Troy. Plz.
Troy is nutty
Noah Mortola those are quintuplets tho
Saw Plini in Boston last night. Wow. If you can catch him on his American tour do it!
Was sending a work email at 3:08 and took me 10 seconds to realise I was enthusiastically bobbing my head to something I wasn't even consciously listening to.
Total rip off of Doja cat surprised she don’t sue
You’re kidding I hope...
@@cici39177 yeah they’re joking lol
Say sike right now!
The climax feels a little Hans-Zimmer-inspired. I love it
I am literally in tears towards the end of the song. Your music brings meaning to my life! Amazing...
having an eargasm right now.
I'm not the kind to proclaim every half-decent pop song 'awesome'. Instead, I save the word 'awesome' for songs like the ones Plini has been putting out. The perfect combination of rhythm, heaviness and melody in his compositions is a testament to his creative genius. As Vai proclaimed, the future of virtuoso guitar playing is secure.
#quintuplets
Where are they? I'm just trying to become a better listener.
it starts at 0:20, before that it's straight 4/4. you can hear the quintuplets pretty clearly at 1:10 and 3:09. at 3:28 it switches back to straight 4/4 (not in quintuplets). at 4:06... it's doing some kind of polymeter, sounds mainly like 5/8 but the clean guitar continues the same chord pattern it was doing before, which is in 4/4 (heard clearly at 0:00). actually, i think the riff is built around that clean guitar pattern so i'd say it's still 4/4.
Just take a triplet for example... and rather than split it into 3 equally placed notes, split it into 5 across the downbeats.
plintuplets. (not originally mine but fits here too)
No wonder you got ripped off, this is SICK
Can't wait to see him live with Intervals and Animals this weekend!!
damn this shit could teach every modern guitarist how to make one fucking MELODY rather then just doing riff and cluelessly pulling the string all the time in their shitty solo
Well this just kinda appeared...
Ok then
Set aside money for this too I guess
Kinda disoriented
i'm going to go broke supporting all these musicians on bandcamp, so much talent i cannot handle
Plini just...kind of appeared one day with this stuff. Crazy.
Plini can play guitar a little bit, I guess.
when i discovered plini on a random back in 2016 was the best day of my life..the feels was real!! 🤘🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘
Awesome !
It's good to see real talent get out. There's a million others just as talented but no band or members dedicated enough to stick to it like them and if these trees could talk
I shed a tear while listening to this
Beast Guitar, same here, just love it when a certain song can bring out that kind of emotion, had that happen to me with a few rush songs as well lol, I'm just a big cissy when it comes to a brilliant melody haha
Aaron Klok don't you mean you shred a tear xD
PLINI > "modern" Dream theater
x1000000000000000000000000
Hey plini, doja cat is ripping you off with milions of views. I hope you can make her pay you.
It’s more about them not talking to him about using the song than the money, if music was about money than Plini wouldn’t exist. It’s all about exposing great music to great people.
@@jonasmartinsen3439 Dude, doja cat is all about money.
@@SiewcaPozogi doja is a great performer! tbh it's not her fault if both solos have similarities, bc she's a singer not a guitar player
stop spreading hate on people for nothing
@@emillysp8109 What the hell gurl. Where do you see any hate there? I just pointed out its total rip-off (which it is) and that i hope plini can get paid for his work. I wonder how would you feel if u ever created a piece of music, and some milion views pop money machine producer will just steal it from you and earn money on it without even mentioning you nor payin you shit.
And btw its not about solo. Rythm part and entire progression is 100% ripped. Solo should be ripped as the guy there struggle to play over this and made poor job. At least he stole few melodies of plini's solo and put them over there. It saved the thing.
@@jonasmartinsen3439 Pop is for money. Having your passion project exploited for money is pretty shit, Plini now deserves a percentage of the writer credits for this product and the revenue it produces, that's how it works
That weird bass at the first half is pretty damn cool
just saw them last night at the crofoot in pontiac,mi. mind is blown. music has class and intellect. never heard of them before the show. WOW What a pleasant suprise.
This song was just ripped off by a backing band for Doja Cat on MTV
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God bless plin. so good.
Just when I think I've heard it all on guitar, Plini and his entourage comes along and shows me more. Magical.
I'm glad big artists listen to one of my favorite artists.
02:12-03:27 love the hanz zimmer inception "time" ost plini's musical reference
Simon Grove's slight chorus and delay on there is a gorgeous setup for Plini to chase it with the same. What a piece.
Well....I am inspired. How about you? You got a new fan Plini!
Dang you can immediately here the similarities but this is also really good. New subby
2 years ago I said this was the best song ever made. After listening to this song for the first time in 6 months I realized this is still true. I've never been more confident in such a bold statement before.
Haven’t listened to this song in a while still my favourite plini song
Am i the only one to imagine this playing in a badass anime scene?
Love me some plini, this guy rocks so hard!
Your tones allow you to change it with your hands so much. It's so versatile.
This dude deserves 10 times the subscribers he has now. How does he only have 127k?
Because people listen to shit like Justin Bieber, and stuff
I'm here supporting plini because you know, the people are going nut sayin the girl is a real genius... But the real genius is here.
Geniuses make hits🐭
3:09 is pure gold!
❤🔥
Posting full EP on YT = best commercial strategy ever. How can you not buy this pure awesomeness after fully listening to it?
been listening to this song for a year now. polymeter towards the end still gets me. it's so unexpected and different. its so perfect
I need more chill guitar alternative rock music like this
Angel Vivaldi
Animals as leaders
Here Because of Doja Cat! Love it❤️
3:10 - end is everything