Honda NSX-R vs SPOON FL5 Type R - Japan Touge
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2023
- The first and the last Type-R from Honda, head to head on some of Japan's best driving roads. The NA1 NSX-R and the Spoon Civic FL5 Type-R are such cars from completely different eras, but they both share the same Honda philosophy's of road going enthusiast driving cars. We got the chance to take both of these cars out to Hakone, home to some of Japan's best roads, driving one after the other, leaving no other variables other than the car itself.
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Forgetting the price, which of these two would you pick if you could only own one?
#thankyou Dino
NSX-R forever! The NSX has been a poster child in my household utilizing the original brochure from 1997 back when they gave those out at the Acura dealer. Never having the Type R stateside made it even more desirable once I learned of it in Gran Turismo. Truly a special part of Honda's engineering marvel!
NSX for me
nsx because its timeless and mr
The civic Type R…need the extra doors for the family lol 😂
I've been saving your pictures from Speedhunters ever since I was a teenager, reading articles and dreaming of the carguy life in Japan. 16 years later... I'm letting you drive my dream car ! Glad you enjoyed it !
Thank you Ben, wouldn’t have been possible without you!! 🙏🏻 🙏🏻 🙏🏻
Wow, what a car to own the keys to.
You are living what many people would call one of the ultimate dreams.
Wishing you all the best and many happy years behind the wheel of your NSX-R 👍
I like this kind of content especially with Jomoto-San. Please more of that. Also some more technical stuff. Thank you, Jomoto-San and the owner of the NSX-R for your time shooting that video!
Yea big thanks to Jomoto-san and Bensupra 🙌🏻
Ben’s collection of cars are other worldly but his NSX is just perfection!😍❤️
I really like Spoon Type One's tuning concept with their simplicity yet attention to detail. Really enjoy these videos keep em coming Dino 👍
Happy to hear that, thanks for the feedback 👍🏻
That spoon wing ❤
Two absolutely great looking cars, I hope to own a FL5 type R one day. Thanks for sharing Dino!
What a joy of an episode. Amazing stuff. The vibe and content is just..... special.
Thanks for saying!! ❤️
That last frame with the two cars sitting together, would make a brilliant poster.
Top class film, yet again 👍
Thank you!!
Your channel is becoming a favourite for sure. Always happy when I see a new upload
Thank you! 🙏🏻
Found your channel quite recently, loving the videos so far. Japanese touge looks like a dream to drive.👍
Thanks for checking it out!
amazing video, one of my favorite car channels on yt at the moment!
Thank you very much! 🙏🏻
Well said. “You need them both” yes. Thanks for another fantastic video Dino
Thanks!!
awesome video 👏! the cuts and transitions are so on point :D I'd love to see an FD2 video in the future, with stock, mugen RR +tuned models
Alec killed it on this one for sure!
Spoon really knocked out the styling cues, i wasn't a big fan of the swan neck style spoiler mounts in general and i kinda thought the fk8 was the better looking of the two, but holy smokes that thing is serious, im sold, solid work!
Looks so aggressive from the front!
I know its so simple and small, but mad respect for taking it easy and not wanting to mess up someone elses car. Too many UA-camrs would now days for the clout.
Yeah no point really, fortunate enough to get these opportunities, I'm not going to risk that's for sure.
Another enjoyable video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, will do!
Another amazing video.
An opportunity like that really is something the stuff of dreams
Thank you!!
Nsx-R!! Man this a dream. Your a lucky guy dino I'm jealous! Keep up the content dino
Sure am! Will keep it coming 🙏🏻
Once again... nice video Dino 🤓👍🏻
Thank you!
Thank you to the youtube algorithmz for suggesting this video to me. I still remember the time when my buddy let me drive his NSX. Excellent video quality.
Thanks for the comment and thanks to UA-cam AI 🙏🏻 😆
Saw the Fl5 for the first time today, such a beautiful car. It was on track as well so it was fantastic seeing how well it held up against everything else racing.
Quite the car. Finding myself wanting a Honda for the first time in many years. Actually make that 2 of them 😆
Sublime. Thanks!
Another great video! 👏🫶👍
Thanks!! 🙏🏻
Driving a little rental in Japan(Demio 1.3l) up and down Mt Aso a few years back really made me appreciate how much fun you can have with very little power as long as the chassis is communicative and responsive. We'd have to be hyper aggressive to even get close to breaking speed limits, but when you're wringing every bit of power you can get up and down winding mountain roads, it does become an outright riot. Would still totally take the NSX-R though... While the FL5 would be more flattering to the driver, I'd rather have that raw driving experience.
Totally, I was driving a 296GTB on the same roads few weeks back and it scared the crap out of me 😆
Great video! Agree that the parting scene would make an awesome poster! Cringe moment though when the rear glass hatch was slammed shut, proper was is to lay it down and press closed near the hatch grip.
Hey I slipped 🫣😬
Driving in a Honda NSX wit a NISMO phone case 🤌🏿😎 Epic bro. Great content as usual. Keep up the good wrk 💯
Haha yeah I was laughing at that too 😆
@@dino_dc 🤣🤣🤣
❤❤❤ love that spoon Fl5, amazing Contente keep it coming
Thank you 🙏🏻
Video quality is getting better every time Dino.The colors of the scenery on this video were beautiful.The minimalist dash design of the FL5 is a hit for me,love them vents,still trying to get used the exterior.Its not a ugly car,to me the previous 2 gens were a bit outrageous making this design look extremely simmered down.Have you driven the NA2 NSX, Dino?
Thank you!!
from the Odawara toll gate driving the hakone turnpike up to sky lounge, then drive the Tsubaki Line downhill, then driving back uphill.. in an NSX-R NA1! what a dream!
Sounds like you’re familiar with the area
@@dino_dc no, just too much consuming initial D and making sim touge drifting videos, maybe I'll try to make this spoon FL5 vs NA1 video too lol.
been following from early speedhunters blogposts back when I build my EK, such an honor for your reply. thank you for always sharing quality contents for us until now!
Cool videos! Appreciate the long term following!
nice video! super cool. GR yaris circuit pack next?!
If I had an opportunity to own either. For me it would be the NSX every time because it's my dream car . I built a 92 Integra GSR into my own type R Integra. White with red leather s2000 seats a built b17. It's as close as I can get to the real thing from 92 . I fancy the DA chassis done right,It would give the NSX a run for it's money .
Sounds like quite a project you’ve embarked on there 👌🏻
Odawara touge was an excellent choice for these two cars. Bravo!
Thanks man!
The very best of Honda Type R, then and now, a very spiritual comparison for sure!
Love how the Civic Type R has evolved from being the boy racer of yesteryears (2 door hot hatches), to the refined gentleman of modern era (4 door sedan).
To the question of owning which one regardless of price, my heart definitely goes to the NA1, it's the nostalgia and much raw driving experience (lesser electronics) that appeals to me!
Another quality content from the Speedhunter! 👍
Thanks man! FL5 impresses for sure, NA1 is a true legend.
Definitely wouldn’t consider the FL5 the pinnacle type R… I’d say FD2 was as good as it gets
NA2 with pop-up headlights (1997-2001) are the best of both worlds :)
great video!
Thank you!
Damn i just took a picture of all RX7 gen in front of Okona pkwy entrance in GT7 lol you are doing it in real life.....thank you for sharing
That’s works too! 👌🏻
jesus christ these angles, amazing shots.
Thank you!
I've driven an nsx, on Hakone turnpike.. and it may have very well been the best drive of my whole life!
Great Touge in that part of Kanagawa and Shizuoka. I've driven Izu and a few others when I had a fun car. That NSX is more wonderfully engaging to drive, as any good 90s car is. The newer cars are so good now its hard to properly exercise them on tight roads vs a race track.
Amazing roads in that region. It’s been my play ground for a long time
Let’s gooooo! ❤️ ♥️ ❤️ ♥️
i must admit i have a weak spot for the Old gold pure Na`s most because of its pure analogy & soul, it would be interesting if Spoon some day had Na convert the new Fl5 with using the old recipe of the 11k Ek9 with todays technology, but it mostly may just be an analogue dream,but is at least still free to daydream 😸& sure the Fl5 Civic is grow to me more an grand tourer so its surely more effetive with an turbo plant.
Keep ut the genuine pure work Dino 🤗Sincerely
Thank you, happy to hear you enjoyed it. K20 swap FL5, who’s gonna do it first 😆
So rad!
Where's the white socks and clutch action ala Ayrton Senna?! LOL. Even in this video, you could tell the NSX drives like a go-kart and maneuvers like a scapel..a true legend.
The loafers lol
How does the NSX-R feel compare to the base NSX NA1? Can you feel the weight reduction and suspension changes?
Yes, it’s quite obvious, makes it so special 👌🏻
Even adding the NSX-R front chassis bars to a normal NSX, you can feel the difference on the front end. I did to mine and was surprised.
what size rims and tires are on the FL5 CTR
They downsized 1 inch to 18s
Awesome vid man. Could you please tell me the sound track beginning 1:05?
It's all copyright free
Nice video. I have to bring something up that I noticed while watching you drive which is the steering wheel shuffling - this is a habit you should try to remove when driving spiritedly as it will hinder your level of control. Leave both hands at the 3 and 9 oclock positions unless on the rare occasion the radius of the turn requires you to bring a hand across the wheel 👍
You can’t on the NSX, the steering rack ratio is large. Not like modern cars at all.
@@popart7722 good point. But I know you can. Driven many old cars on the ragged edge :)
Yeah that’s exactly it, if you have never driven an NSX-R (no power steering btw) it makes sense you wouldn’t get it. It loads up so much it’s fighting you all the time with tons of “recoil.” It’s not like a modern Ferrari where you can get away with never repositioning your hands.
@@dino_dc the NSXR's rack ratio is 17.1 which is quicker than an EG/EK with a shorter wheelbase.. But hey dont let hard data get in the way of a cool story 😂
Great Honda NSX-R
Why is that gauges on dash of nsx blurred out?
I spilled something on them...
I think the NSX is one of the more underappreciated '90s legends tbh. People are always going on especially about the Supra and the Skyline, but in most competetive situations, I bet the NSX-R was a lot faster
Yeah that’s why I’m scared to drive the GT-R again 😬
I enjoyed the pov in the NSX
For me the nsx type r 3.2 is the best honda of all time. But i can be wrong but is very rare.... they made only a few of them
Those mirrors on the type r are amazing would you happen to know the name of those?
They are soon to be released by Spoon
"It's completely stock" but then proceeds to go down a short laundry list of mods. 🤣 High flow filter, maybe, but a TB or a tune? That's definitely a mod in my books.
I meant the engine. It’s not been opened up, nor has it got a turbo upgrade.
Type R oh yeah!
EURYTHMICS - SWEET DREAMS was playing in my head
😂
Hey man, please do scale/diecast car shop tours.
Ok noted!
@@dino_dc they are plenty in japan.
But not many has done shop tours in detail.
That type R is dooope
Quality 👍👍
NSX FTW
Why is the instrument panel blurred?
It was oily
@@dino_dc Uh, yeah, the oil got on your hand too 🙂
I haven't seen yet someone put a "Brilliant Exhaust" in the NSX. I wonder what is gonna sound like 😁
Good point
The NSX-R is still such a beauty. I only wish Honda had tuned the engine to put out around 320hp, that would have been perfect for the chassis. Best sounding V6 ever imo
That’s what the 3.2 was rated to unofficially
@@dino_dcthe 290 figure is pretty accurate based on the dyno numbers I've seen from SoS
More please 🤙🏼🌴🦋
Aloha🎍
Aloha back brother! More for sure 🤙🏻
Not forgetting, Hector will be running 3 Honda civics with Spoon engines with NOS and a Motec system exhaust
Same toll booth guy as Luke Huxhams Motorhead videos all those years ago?
Uhm not sure if that was him, it’s always the same 3-4 guys
CW Type-R glasses!
Lol
vederlo guidare cosi mi piange il cuore
wheres the video with the cars competing ???
We weren’t competing
Take a shot every time either one of them says, “ahhhh/uhhhh-hhhhhhah”
eeeemmmmmm
Spoon always makin shit look good
They killed it with this one!
...If Kojima-san was into cars : D
NSX-R of course because i'm fine with my daily fit
Fl5 nmpk smart btol lah, stock pon dah lawa da
Dal Stile do guida si vede, che sei italiano 😁😁👍👌
Dici? 😆 🙏🏻
@@dino_dc anzi, anche piu polito di un paio die ragazzi, che ho consciuto, mentre vivevo in sardegna 30 Anni fa 😁.
Bx the way, Like your videos a lot, Not only for the Cars, but also your Attitude.
u know what i really hate about modern turbo cars? they try to tune it so tht it behaves like a na.... i hate tht.... the whole point & fun about the turbos is the sudden surge of power!!... y have the turbo and then make it feel linear...might as well not have the turbo
Sort of agree with you there
I really like the content, but is it only for me that the music is way much louder than the talking? This is with every video... Constantly have to change volumes .. 🤔
Thanks. Not seen anyone bring that up, I watch it on mobile, laptop and TV every time and don’t have issues
Its crazy a Civic now has more HP than an NSX
Over 400 soon when they are done with the next stage of mods
NSX-R: do i really have to do this?
You mean that’s what you’d choose?
NSX all damn day erry day.
That’s been my live over the course of the last 15 days. So good
*life
I’ll take the Type R
JDM gearing should of been standard for Acura NSX’S.
A lot of people change them
I choose NSX😅
Nismo phone case…😂
😆
Touge is better when he made by Keiichi Tsuchiya, Max Orido...
I’m no pro driver like the OGs you mention
@@dino_dc what do you mean by OGs?
Nsx and fk8 over fl5 anyday
Oh really? Why?
@@dino_dc just not into the tone down looks but thats just me but i do like the fl5 interior better than fk8
窃盗段の下見にされそう
I don’t understand
Wrong...I would take the NSX-R ALL.DAY.LONG...its a true Type R and not a bloated bundle of wires that the civic R is
Dino you need driving lessons
Thanks Jonathan, will you be teaching me? 😆
@@dino_dc yes please fly me out and allow me to teach you In the NSX 😀
Wish you talked less and showed more pov and drove harder, just kinda boring, people watch to see the car be driven and its just 20 minutes of you talking.
Asmr togue 😂
Nsx all day but why not just shut your mouth and drive?