IFSC Worldcup Brixen 2022 - The route setting process #2

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  • @middle-agedclimber
    @middle-agedclimber 2 роки тому +17

    Knowing personally how excellent one of these guys climbs, it is mindboggling what the top of the top are showing. How hard are the boulders they flash or do in 4 minutes. Uncomprehendable. There really are levels to this.

  • @aidanloeser4890
    @aidanloeser4890 2 роки тому +43

    Love it thanks!
    We need female setters.

    • @noahhouseholder605
      @noahhouseholder605 2 роки тому

      True! The gym I work at has been looking for women to work here and we cant find ANYONE!

    • @jaspersoucoup7870
      @jaspersoucoup7870 Рік тому

      True! It's all I can think of when you talk about, "true but it for women" I don't think anyone's being sexist, I just wish women were sitting women's routes.

  • @jonasfritzer
    @jonasfritzer 2 роки тому +9

    Tsukuru is such a beast!

  • @noahhouseholder605
    @noahhouseholder605 2 роки тому +1

    Love the video man! Thanks for putting this stuff on UA-cam; it's hard to find high-quality videos around this topic, and as someone who is trying to get into route setting-- it is much appreciated! Keep up the awesome work.

  • @zeitfrei
    @zeitfrei 2 роки тому +8

    Awesome stuff! Keep it coming - make it longer!

  • @mugoyoutube1681
    @mugoyoutube1681 2 роки тому +5

    Super interesting! It was so much fun to first watch the creation process and then again for each problem the competition run-through.

  • @simonezappino9803
    @simonezappino9803 2 роки тому +5

    You are super Niky! Thank you for this new great video!!! 🤩🙏

  • @Kokowulli
    @Kokowulli 2 роки тому

    I very much enjoyed your videos about setting processes. Thanks.

  • @Reeenald
    @Reeenald 2 роки тому +1

    Amazing thanks for all the videos and hard work of the setters

  • @simonw.2526
    @simonw.2526 2 роки тому +1

    These videos are sick! I really enjoyed seeing the athletes get tested at Brixen. Keen to see the creation of M3.

  • @patryks.5229
    @patryks.5229 2 роки тому +5

    It was good final great setting we saw some incredible feats of strength. On that close ups it looks impossible and to do it in couple minutes or flash big respect.

  • @svenningen
    @svenningen 2 роки тому

    I thought this was great. The male problem they spent so much time on this video really encapsulates what I think a olympic boulder should contain! Its got funk while still retaining difficulty and demand to physique. Great video series

  • @connorskeeters8981
    @connorskeeters8981 2 роки тому +3

    I can’t wait to see todays setting vlog.

  • @matteopisoni2158
    @matteopisoni2158 2 роки тому +2

    This series is just awesome! Imagine doing this as a job... Would be amazing!! How is it possible to become IFSC routesetter? It would be interesting if you could include info on this in one of the next episodes!
    Keep going, these videos are great!!!

  • @haearnhammer3733
    @haearnhammer3733 2 роки тому +8

    18:56 the sync haha

  • @johannesstower1228
    @johannesstower1228 2 роки тому +3

    Sehr gut Nickie!

  • @Pitbullpinda
    @Pitbullpinda 2 роки тому +1

    realy nice footage!!!!!! super interesting

  • @chooseacareer
    @chooseacareer 2 роки тому

    great stuff. loving it

  • @chra3427
    @chra3427 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome. Too long, since I set the last time....

  • @mark69064
    @mark69064 2 роки тому +16

    It's too easy !
    Not hard enough!
    Competitors could handle this!
    Not hard enough for them !
    Yeah, they may hate this!Nice.

  • @SnowmansApartment
    @SnowmansApartment 2 роки тому

    do they say ‚it‘s morpho‘? 36:35
    What does that mean?

  • @rara58524
    @rara58524 2 роки тому +1

    For casual viewers to appreciate how difficult the routes in comp events are - they need to hire a couple of famous high level climbers who are not quite at current comp level and make them try out each route for the audience each time. It would give a better frame of reference just how insanely good all the competitors are (even those who finish last).

    • @babsds0
      @babsds0 2 роки тому +2

      Emil already has a video of him and some GB guys trying the men's Brixen final boulders, which considering they all boulder 8B or harder outdoors is a good frame of reference imo.

  • @MusicScala
    @MusicScala 2 роки тому +1

    What happened to the video at 26:00 😄

    • @BetaRoutesetting
      @BetaRoutesetting  2 роки тому +2

      Wow. Good question. Corrupted file. But you don’t miss out somehow. UA-cam let’s me down 😔

  • @nelsonmaodeferro5984
    @nelsonmaodeferro5984 2 роки тому +15

    Women should climb the mens boulders and vice versa. I think it would be more exciting and fun seeing women managing to climb mens and see some men failing on womens boulders.

  • @batbot3222
    @batbot3222 2 роки тому +1

    25:37 cuts to black?

    • @BetaRoutesetting
      @BetaRoutesetting  2 роки тому +3

      Didn’t see that before. Seems to be a youtube issue somehow - I’ll keep it online cause there’s nothing you miss out. Even if it really annoys me now. Damn

  • @jamesclark6257
    @jamesclark6257 2 роки тому

    What are the differences between setting for the woman and men? Are they different styles, easier or the same but less reachy for a smaller box?

    • @brutalctg7654
      @brutalctg7654 2 роки тому

      a little less reachy and require a little less strength

  • @13Omega37
    @13Omega37 2 роки тому

    what happened at 26:00? very long black screen

    • @BetaRoutesetting
      @BetaRoutesetting  2 роки тому +2

      The magic of youtube… I don’t really know honestly. Will double check before publishing episode 3

    • @13Omega37
      @13Omega37 2 роки тому

      @@BetaRoutesetting don't worry. still a great vid, thanks!

  • @oberon85
    @oberon85 2 роки тому +3

    Great work Niki! Thx a lot for that fascinating insights.
    But on the setting process: honestly i think that's a disgrace to the ifsc. 8 Setters who can hardly communicate, cause only 2 of them can phrase complete english sentences, a setting process in which the chief setter doesn't utilize the creativity and unique skills/ideas of his setters but instead recognizes after 5 minutes that he ordered 4 times a "powerful/tricky" boulder for each final cause "powerful/tricky" is what bouldering is all about...
    That leads to a situation in which testing means seeing Tsukuru in every move, decisions get arbitrary and top predictions far off instead of 8 specialists mutually presenting their unique creations to tweak them together...
    I think we desperately need incentives for younger/stronger/more specialized setters in worldcups and a structure for a far better moderated setting process!
    And a female setter in the crew telling the old men that "powerful" is not everything bouldering is about would probably help too ;-)

    • @BetaRoutesetting
      @BetaRoutesetting  2 роки тому +7

      Thanks for your feedback but… haha no but you can have your own opinion and own thoughts but always remember for the ifsc it’s mainly about two things first when setting a comp:
      1. result
      2. don’t kill anyone
      How to get there is up to the setter. Whole some setters nowadays are used to another approach there’s just no right or wrong. And if communication is different sometimes that’s just life 😊
      Imo he utilizes everyone and everything sooner or later. We’re just 2 episodes in so I think It would be nicer to wait and be more patient before jumping to conclusions.
      And in the end the result show was one of the best so far this season - but that’s also my opinion and I’m emotionally attached to it.
      But It makes me happy that everyone puts a lot of effort into their thoughts what could be changed - keep on and talk soon? 😊
      Niki

  • @Snariasdqwada
    @Snariasdqwada Рік тому

    Small critic to the organization: why there are no female setters for the women competition? I think it would be very important to have a woman try and set the boulders since she will have a better understanding of the physical parameters that, as we know, are different than the one for men.

  • @FlashFocused
    @FlashFocused 2 роки тому +1

    Setting team's should certainly look more diverse than this. Cool video though, nice insight into the process!

  • @tommyinthe8ir
    @tommyinthe8ir 2 роки тому

    Feels like a routesetting competition not teamwork, It's unfortunate. Marcin really does not seem open for input.

    • @BetaRoutesetting
      @BetaRoutesetting  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry that you feel that way. It didn’t feel to me and he was / is open to input.
      But I can say for sure it was in no way a setting competition 😊 anyway thanks for your feedback and your thoughts

    • @piotrszklarz7958
      @piotrszklarz7958 2 роки тому +6

      He needs to be decided in some ways as the cheef, but is hard not to notice, that he asks questions almost all the time, so i think he is open for input. Btw. That comp turned out as one of the best/ most interesting/ balanced comps in the last time. It was a show !

  • @alejand5
    @alejand5 2 роки тому

    Remember it's for the female LOL