JUST RELEASED! Marantz CINEMA 50 & CINEMA 60 Home Theater Receivers - Overview & Comparison
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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Correction: The CINEMA 50 has Audyssey XT 32 and the 60 just as XT.
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When your video started, I thought there was a speck on top of my screen and I was trying to wipe it off. Then I quickly realized it was a rebel hair of yours off the top of your head sticking out by itself. 😂
@@RedLeo-pf9yo Too funny!
when you test it out. did both of the subwoofer show up in the marantz configuration? for some reason, it only shows one in the configuration. I have a cinema 60
@@nh4thuy We complained in the video that even though the Cinema 60 has two subwoofer outputs, they are wired in parallel, so what you are seeing is exactly what we stated. The 50 is the one that is more flexible from a subwoofer standpoint
Marantz has always made excellent AVRs. I'm looking forward to this new generation.
Thanks for sharing
Yes
I love that you guys mention the tip about connecting game systems directly to the TV and then feeding sound to the receiver via eARC
I've got PS5 and LG C1 OLED and NR1508 and I was wondering what to do !
Thanks. Yes with eARC giving full Dolby Atmos it’s the best way to go.
I've got a Samsung tv setup like this and there is about a third second delay between screen and audio, with no way to correct it apart from setting the Xbox to stereo output. It seems that the tv introduces the delay even when set to pass through. I've just upgraded my av receiver to a new one with 4/8k connections to fix it.
Previous generations of Xbox had an optical out on the console, this only started being an issue on the new generation of consoles. Forums suggest LG tv's also have the same issue.
Fan of Marantz, and definitely interested in the CINEMA 50. Two things will have to happen before I buy: have to find my Marantz SR7011 a new home, and Marantz will have to announce the cost to upgrade to DIRAC. Once those two things happen, sign me up. The CINEMA 50 seems like the perfect solution for my A/V system in a new room.
We will post the pricing once it is nailed down
I dig it! Love the aesthetic like the Model 30 and 40 2-channel gear. I've thought the older models' appearances were starting to get a bit stale. And 4 independent sub outs at $2500 can't be beat. That, combined with the future Dirac Live upgrade very well may make this the best AVR under $3000.
We totally agree! Thanks for watching
All depends how the Dirac live be implemented. It’s first time they do it, will they do good job? When you compare Dirac implementations - they vary greatly- StormAudio probably has one of the best - gives you flexibility of augmenting individual channels after calibration.
@@whitecrowuk575 full dirac version is about 600$.Doubt that its coming with that
@@jaydoublebusy limited version is $259 and $350 for full version. I think single bass control will be over $100 extra and multi sub Dirac will be over $300.
This is nice- I like it. Dirac live seems like the biggest change. Aside from that, it’s really more of the same here. The focus being on more bells and whistles, more channels, and handsome aesthetics. It’s probably a very competent A/V receiver, but I just wish they would stop putting money into things most of us do not use, and instead focus on power supply, higher quality caps, and overall sound quality. My Denon X4100W still does a quality job with A/V, and I’ve heard newer units up to current with such diminishing returns in sound quality upon increased costs, I don’t think it’s worth upgrading at all, unless you just gotta have some particular feature set. Anyhow, love the presentation, and love the channel!
Glad you liked it, the 50 is very beefy internally and we love the Dirac option and 4 subs. Thanks for watching
I think they've gone the other way. The older models had the more robust amplification. This makes me want to go with separates. I wish they would take it a step further, and separate the preamp, and processor, so you only have to upgrade processors. Obsolescence is a PITA.
@@qua7771 very well said, and I agree 100%
@@cpg8000 Thanks for the kind words. My SR5005 out-performed my SR7012 in Sound, and Vision's bench test for 5ch driven at once, but the DAC's arent as good etc... The 5005 sits in my closet. It does have 7.1 inputs, so I'm considering using it as an amp at some point. It's a shame to waste an amazing amp circuit just because processing tech is constantly changing. It's not right.
@@qua7771 indeed. I remember my father having a Denon AVR 2500 in the mid 90’s (it was maybe middle of the road, I think), and the amp section was fairly robust. It really put out thick and rounded sound as I remember. I have it, and it sits unused for the very same reasons you state- namely the introduction of HDMI digital circuits. Trying to find an application to use it, but I simply cannot think of one.
What brand and model # s are the DAC's? AKM? ESS? TI? What about the higher model Cinema 40 and A series, days or months until pre-orders are up on those?
We asked and will post once we know. The higher end units are early 2023. Thanks for watching
same question. thanks!
Nice video. One correction, you mentioned both models come with the same room correction software. If I've read the specs correctly, the 50 has the better "32" version.
Thank you Dan. You are right. We appreciate your comments.
Once my sr7011 goes, I'll definitely be upgrading to the 50. But the way these things are built, they'll probably have a new model by then. 👍
Trying not to jinx my 7009 as well...but I need to justify getting a new one to the wife.. LOL
Yes, they do last a while and with the new 5 year warranty that really says something about the build quality.
SR7012 will never die ! (SR5013 and NR1508 owner here)
Update on mine after about a month, added 2 small height speakers (cambridge minx) speakers to go with the BW 6 series 5.1 setup (might change these for BW M1's down the line but these sound pretty good so far).
The upmixing modes for Atmos and DTX Neural X are very impressive - mostly sending the right sounds to the height speakers from 5.1 mixes.
DTS Neural X upmixing seems a bit "hot" compared the Atmos upmixing, DTS NX seems to crank up the volume on the heights and introduce more mistakes in the mix while the Atmos upmixing sounds more natural.
One annoying bug is that if you are streaming music using spotify connect with the TV off, it'll cut out every minute or so for a second - hopefully this is something that gets fixed in a firmware update because music sounds great on it and there is no reason to need the TV to be on considering you can control it with your phone.
I've not figured out how to automatically make it switch the TV to game mode when playing a game so I'm having to manually set that every time (all devices are routed through the AVR).
Thanks for sharing your experience with your new Marantz home theater receiver
Phew, thought marantz might’ve had a whole new line-up. Will be sticking with my AV8805 and may upgrade the HDMI board to 8k whenever I feel the need for it
You will be interested in the new separate pieces coming in 2023. Thanks for watching
The Marantz Receivers have always been great and I'm looking forward to checking out the Cinema 50/60!
We hope you like them. Thanks for watching
This thing looks like a piece of art. With some cableprn discipline this should be awesome in your living room!
Great to hear. We are glad you like them.
Gorgeous. Now Marantz, make a 2-3 channel integrated amp with 200wpc @8 ohms and built in streaming with this design… take my money, please! 💰
Great idea! Thanks for watching
The increased price tags are insane. I'm so happy that I just 4 weeks ago received my SR6015 when I see the new price for the cinema 50... it feels a little bit like they want try how much they can rise the prices up. And sorry to fire up to 4 subwoofers is more a special interest thing for dedicated home cinema rooms.
4 subwoofers are not for dedicated cinema rooms. You can fill any nulls in your room with 4 subs. It doesn’t mean big output as it doesn’t add up that much. You can get small subs that will fit anywhere like kf92 or kc62 or SVS micro 3000. Difference is massive.
I also disagree about the subs. The more subs the better. The way sound waves work at those frequencies, the size of the waves, means that bass can get really weird in home theaters. With this receiver, people will be able to get 4 of the best subs they can afford and get better bass than one big sub for the same cost. I'm not going to go buy two more but I'm glad I can now tune the two that I have without having to get a MiniDSP.
@@dangr123 I just said that is not a common usage in a living room by a standard user - no one I know has 4 subs in a her/his living room. Not everyone has an house instead they living in a apartment and or has the space / allowance / willingness to but 4 sub cubes in a living room.
That’s a product which will selling around the globe and again not every customer has n house in Texas for eg with miles where is no one around.
For the minidsp u still need to buy Dirac and pay additional several hundreds… which makes it more expensive then already… sorry the price tag is still ridiculous.
@@whitecrowuk575 I never talked about big output, just that it’s not common that the normal standard user will set up at home 4 subwoofers and calls it a regularly and common setup.
@@mickeymaus1 well now having an option to connect 4 I wouldn’t be surprised more people will do it
I'm counting days until the actual product review of the Marantz CINEMA 50!
Dang , me too, has been waiting for this, think Marantz hasn't released any avr for years because of the HDMI 2.1 problems / scandal
So we finally get a full set of HDMI 2.1 IN/OUTS instead of just one or two right?
I Really wish they would stop labeling them 4k/8k
Wish you would have elaborated on why you recommend we use Earc rather than hooking to reciever first?
I always thought arc/earc was kind of a last resort
Sorry we were not clear. We recommend using eArc when you are using the apps on your TV for streaming. If you have separate streaming sources like Roku, Apple TV, etc, yes, they should go to the receiver first. Hope this helps.
@@AudioAdvice Thanks for the clarification. Makes perfect sense
Very informative. My old Denon claimed eARC update but it wouldn't work so I sourced a Marantz 6015 ($900). Definitely better sound quality than the Denon 4500H. The Denon claims more watts but the Marantz is cleaner and more balanced at higher volumes.
Not sure why the 50 is the higher spec model vs the 60, Maybe they're trying to make a trend.
Person ally, I see no advantage for my 12*14 theater room. IMAx meh,4 subs don't have the room, I am running 7.4.2 with a Yamaha 801 on the stereo front.
Even the 50 doesn't offer more than 11 channels of control. Might be a good refurb buy at $1599 in a year or so
Thanks for sharing your audio experiences!
Hello,does anyone know what the HDMI 2.1 spec is? Be a deal breaker if its not full 2.1 48gps....
phenomenal looking
there's apparently a silver one which of course won't be sold in the US where Marantz models are notoriously more expensive. I've had a conversation over the years with them about it and they kept saying that we all love the black units - which is why B&W only offers black speakers made of plastic in the US (just kidding).
Glad you like them! Thanks for watching
I think the wait is over for me. Marantz Cinema 50 seem to be my savior and solution at the perfect price point too. My heart is telling me to go with Marantz Cinema 50!
It looks like a great choice to us. Thanks for watching
Yes! Been waiting for 7myearx for these!
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Excited about the addition of Dirac!
We are too. Thanks for watching
Got my 50 a few days ago for 1700$ on sale, looking forward to setting it up :) Tnx for great video.
Thanks for watching! Enjoy!
$1700 bucks??? where at?:)
I have an older Marantz AVR (circa 2017), and while I like it overall, I've been looking into replacing it because it doesn't have Dirac Live. The upgrade path here definitely gets my attention - thanks!
DIRAC IS THE WAY
it's not cheap - what model and what speakers do you have for the LCR? I think that determines your path. There's no point in buying an amp that sounds identical unless you like moving equipment around and spending $3,000 for nothing.
@@techsamurai11 My AVR is only used to power my 4 Dolby surrounds and 4 Atmos speakers. I have separate high-end amps for the L/C/R, and Sub.
My room is a multi-purpose room, and not designed for Home Theater, so room correction is important. I have Duntech Sovereigns for L/R (room was originally audio only) and Revel center, with different brand surround and Atmos. I'm hoping that Dirac Live would do a better job dealing with these limitations. I may also replace the 8 surround/Atmos to try for more consistent Timbre.
So while this is relatively pricey, there aren't many cheaper options for Dirac Live that would match my particular needs.
But thanks for the reply.
@@dlcphoto Don't Pioneer and Onkyo include Dirac Live? Never heard of Duntech - my god, do they weight 275lbs each?
Yeah, I can see how room correction is important for you. I've been pondering the same as my living room is a cathedral ceiling and my system is at the bottoming part. I use Audyssey and interestingly it comes up with difference measurements every time but the results are always better than not having room correction and sometimes excellent.
I wouldn't bother about the consistency of the timbre for the surrounds - there's so little sound relatively in movies from those channels and when there's sound, it's impossible to tell it apart - games would be more important as sound as you're the director and the score changes all the time as you turn left and right but you still need a voice in some cutscene for that to be noticeable. Atmos speakers will always be different than the rest of the speakers unless you plan to hang 4 Duntechs from the ceiling😄
What's the pricing for Dirac Live? Do we know?
@@techsamurai11 Thanks for the reply. Yeah, the Duntech's are a beast for sure! I bought them in 1990 when we added this room to our home, and my orientation was audio and not video.
And I think you're right that Onkyo has a Dirac Live option; haven't seen anything with Pioneer, but I could be wrong.
As for using the same speakers and having ideal timbre matching, I do wonder how much difference it makes. But people more knowledgeable in Audio than me seem to think it's important.
To do this fully, I'd have to replace the Duntechs, which was around a $14,000 purchase back in 1990. It is generally considered one of the most accurate speakers, at least in 2-channel audio. They were there when I modified the room (light control mainly) to video, so just kept using them.
Lastly, my eyes are now a lot better than my ears (I'm 71!), so the idea that I might not be able to actually hear the differences does cause me think twice before making any audio upgrades!😁
Bravo Marantz these things look sweet!
Thanks!
Fantastic video on these 2 new super star receivers! Excellent price point for the quality....Lower level remodel nearing completion and looking at the C-50 to drive our SVS ultra towers...center... rears...PB-3000 sub ...and pair of Revel series 7 Atmos overhead.... 🙃
Glad you liked it! Please contact our team at www.audioadvice.com to help with your system.
My SR8015 more enough satisfied,but marantz always steps to next level 🎵
Thanks for sharing
Excited hear how these sound and the Cinema 40.
We hope you get a chance to hear them. Thanks for watching
@Audio Advice, please have this gentleman host the majority of your videos. His presentation is on par with a college professor - well better. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback, we appreciate you watching
Yes his delivery is fantastic. But I have to say, all representatives from audio advice are really good
@@davemccague222 Thanks so much Dave.
Getting the 60 from you guys when it comes out! Been rocking my SR5008 for ages waiting on the new styles to unveil.
Great! Thanks for the support!
Thanks for breaking this down for me! Great receivers.
Glad you liked it.
Question regarding marantz cinema 70s
What are Pre out selection option available in setup software
1) is it just FL or All channels
Or
2) can we select specific combo
Eg fl, rear lr and leave rest channels for the receiver
We have not gotten a Cinema 70 yet to play with.
@@AudioAdvice alright.. If you do get a change, let us know
Love Marantz but I am not a fan of the small circular screens on the front panel as it is challenging to see from even a short distance. I actually moved away from Marantz because of that one little detail. The 110 W is just not enough for my power-hungry speakers. Marantz makes very high-quality equipment but I need more power and a larger information window. before I return.
Thanks for the feedback. We appreciate you watching
That's what pre amp outputs are for.
Sr8015 has 140 W per channel
The screen is dreadful! They need to embrace OLED screens which have been available on smartphones for ages. Adding a $100 phone screen to a few thousand dollar unit shouldn't impact things much.
@@boedilllard5952 Marantz is lacking in design a bit. They have a simplistic design which is ok but agree hard to see sometimes.
Can i have zone 2 and 3 with Cinema 50? I have speakers in my kitchen an bathroom now connected to my onkyo and just turn on zone to get sound in each room
Would love to experience at least one of these once they are out. Nice overview!!!
Thanks very much!
Would you chose the Cinema 50 over the Integra 5.4. The Integra does come with Direc right now and is 120 watts vs 110 watts and is $300 cheaper.
Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to talk about those two units. Thanks for watching
@AudioAdvice I will after the Holidays. I've just started researching a new home theater receiver.
Does the directional subwoofer feature extend to two channel listening? Like stereo subwoofers in stereo mode?
It should yes.
A big difference is MultEQ XT32 vs MultEQ XT. I'm surprised you didn't mention it.
That is true, good catch. Thanks for sharing
New Subscriber. Love Marantz. Excellent video.
Thanks for the sub! Glad you enjoyed it
My current Marantz AVR is similar to the 50 but the Auro, IMAX and depending on how much the DIRAC option costs, might be worth the upgrade.
Thanks for sharing. We will post the Dirac cost once it’s finalized.
Well, it could be a downgrade or an apples-to-apples switch.
This thing FINALLY looks good enough to leave out on your console. QQ. Do yo know what the pre-amp voltage signal is? Thx
It looks really nice in silver but then again all the Marantz looked great in silver. Some countries had champagne gold models which looked much more high-end than any black AVR ever can.
It does! The specs do not say, likely 2v. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice thanks!!!
Tis might be an upgrade from the 8805, I have that one without the 2.1 board, or pay the 500 for the board and keep what I have.
Or wait for the new separates coming next year :) Thanks for watching
Anthem MRX 1140 still an AVR monster to beat.
It certainly is! Thanks for watching
So will the dirac live be something you pay for and get as a update to your cinema 50 if you already have it? or is it a fee/upgrade that has to be paid for and specified at the time of ordering?
It will be done as an update later, they told us March 2023 is the likely time frame. Pricing is not firm yet, but you would pay Dirac for it on their site is what we understand. Thanks for watching
Just bought a sr6015 and a cinema 60
Nice, thanks for sharing
Do you know if these or any other receivers/pre-pros have the ability to run, set and save both Atmos and Auro-3D set-ups?
The 50 supports Auro. We think you want to know if you can set up different speaker configurations and save them. We have not tested that yet, but will be soon. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com in a couple of weeks and we should know. Thanks for watching
Hi, i like very much Marantz Cinema 50. What is the best speakers for this receiver, using Dolby Atmos?
Thank You.
We have lots of speaker choices at www.audio advice.com. You can reach out to our team there for the best advice.
@@AudioAdvice I chose the new Klipsch Reference Premiere II speakers. I think they're excellent.👍
If you choose to buy DIRAC and change mic, do they have calibration files for different mics?
If you do Dirac, you will probably need a different mic for it to work like the Mini DSP, which has its own calibration file
Which speakers (with whole packages) would you suggest for cinema 60
Please reach out to our team for the best advice on speakers at www.audioadvice.com Thanks for watching
Don´t understand why I should connect both my ps5 and series X to my tv first? Any tv out there that supports full hdmi specs on more then one input?
Might be wrong, just seems wrong.
It’s to reduce video lag and remove one step in the high rate HDMI chain. If your TV has eARC we feel it’s the better way to go. Thanks for watching
Look nice till you get to price..
Considering Denons usually measure better per reviews on ASR compared to Marantz.. And same features..
I can't really see why this is so much more than the 3800H when it is almost the same.
I am really curious on Dirac implementation.. maybe that'll be the difference? Maybe Denon 3800H will have say, only full range Dirac (NO DLBC) While higher end Denon and Marantz 50 and better will have DLBC or maybe.. the soon coming SRC from Dirac?
I wish they were transparent about Dirac. If I knew which would have DLBC or better yet, what they are going to announce in a month or so, I'd hop right into one of these and sell my current LX505
We hope to know more soon on the Dirac and will post it at the top of the comments. Thanks for watching
Haha good one
that's for sure all receiver are overpriced shouldn't be no more than 300 dollars
Nice video! What is the difference between a sr7015 vs a cinema 40? I have a sr7010 and planning to upgrade next year. My application 50/50 movies and music and I have B&W 700 series 5.2 speakers setup.
Thank you. We will not have our hands on a Cinema 40 until 2023. Stay tuned. Thanks for watching
@audio advice - Would the Marantz Cinema 50 alone have enough power to get the most out of my 5.2.2 system? That includes (2) SVS Prime Pinnacle, (1) SVS Ultra Center, (4) SVS Prime Elevation and (2) SVS PB-1000 Pro. I don't want to add any additional amps at this time otherwise I'll keep searching. Please advise.
Yes, those speakers are not that hard to drive, you should be fine. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com for more questions. Thanks for watching
Mine arrived yesterday, upgraded from a Marantz NR1504. Have a B&W 6 series 5.1 setup (685/686). This sounds amazing in comparison - for stereo music it blows away the older AV receiver with a wide sound stage with great positioning - I've had to double check it wasn't doing some sort of surround mode a couple times because it sounded like parts of the song were coming from the centre.
Audyssey detected my front and centre as large speakers, tried setting them to small with crossover to the sub at 60-80hz but audyssey was correct with it's settings, with the sub it was too much for the room to take for music.
Thanks for sharing, it sounds like you will really enjoy it.
Stereo music with all speakers or only with front speakers?
@@justme... Its got an audio mode select so for music you can change it to 2 speaker stereo.
Now I would like replace my old marantz ps7500 to new av to getting better music sound.
In my area sr8015's price < Cinema40 ~100$.
Should I buy 8015?
Anyway my system is only 5.1,
Please give me some advice, which one is suitable to me btw sr 8015 & Cinema40
We have not heard the Cinema 40 yet.
Thanks for a great video. I'd expect a similar line of Pre/Pros soon and will be interested in their price point as I'm currently using an AV7702mkII. I don't know why marantz doesn't simply dump Audyssey and go all in with Dirac.
Cost. It could scare people away. If you have the money, you can pay the upgrade fee later
It leaked out already AV10 will have 15.4 channels (bit much) and cost staggering 7k USD. Coming next year Q3/Q4
Yes, there are separates coming in 2023 Q1 or Q2, we agree on the Audyssey, although it does take a little bit of skill in changing the target curves to get Dirac right. Thanks for watching
@@nachowifi2181 Perhaps, but as I see it, they're forcing those who want Dirac to pay for both.
@@GunnyPhillips touché
Well worth the wait! Great review
Glad you enjoyed it.
I notice theres no heights hook up in the back of the cinema 60. I just got this receiver and I have some definitive tech toppers (atmos modules) on the way to go on top of my DT 9020’s and was curious if theres another way to hook them up given theres no heights hook ups in the back. Thanks
You need the Cinema 50.
@@AudioAdvice Damn. You think for $1700 it would be able to run those. But thanks for the information.
Has Marantz improved their build quality? My Marantz I purchased in 2014 blew up TWICE so even though I loved the sound, I'm very gun shy about giving them my money again.
Sorry you had issues, our experience has been very good with them. Thanks for watching
I bought one in 2020 and now the volume button on the remote does not work anymore.
Marantz/denon need to breathe. They all run very hot.
He looks as happy as I would be if I could afford one.
😄 thanks for watching!
If I'm understanding this correctly, Cinema 60 and Denon x3800h are essentially the same?
It’s feature wise more like the 50 but the amp sections are different. Just look at the physical weight difference
Hello - Are they available? Also do you know when Cinema 40 will be available?
Coming soon. The 40 is supposed to be in the first part of 2023
This new design is simply gorgeous, these will sell like hotcakes
They do look much better, thanks for sharing!
I love your home theater designer feature, but as I have a narrow but very long room, it doesn't seem to want me to be able to place speakers in such a narrow room!? I have been using this room since 2001 as a home theater and it works just great, so it would be really good if your designer feature would let me/help me work out the best place to put everything. Can this be done?
Interesting. I have the exact same problem with their designer tool.very frustrating
Feel free to get as close as you can then reach out to our team for advice. Thanks for sharing
For $2,500, the Cinema 50 might make a killer 2. channel receiver. 110WPC, Class A/B, 2 channels driven, bi-amp capable, FM tuner (important to me). Same price as Model 40 with higher power output and more features. Why would I buy a Model 40 instead of the Cinema 50? Do you have a demo on the floor? Thanks
We will have demos soon. Thanks for watching
FM tuner 😆😆
wow, so nice
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching
Purtroppo Harman Kardon avr 430 non funziona piu' e non voglio ripararlo. Per qualita' audio Cinema 60 sarebbe degno sostituto?
Yes
Im interested in cinema 40 maybe av10 but the price difference is steep between two. Marantz processors were usually much better than AVRs due to poor signal separation in the latter. But now this 40 is made in Japan, would it mean with amps turned off to perform as good as AV10? We will see. Also will wait until Dirac update is available and seeing reviews of that. I stopped believing producers promises as quite often soon meant year or even years. Still DAC is being kept secret.
We will know more about your question once we find out about the DAC's. If they are the same, yes, it could be similar with the amps turned off. Thanks for watching
Waiting for the Cinema 40. Should not have to pay for Dirac IMO. Love the new style.
Thanks for sharing.
You would pay for it one way or another. They either include it in the price of the unit, whether you want it or not, or set things up so that it's an optional extra for those who want to pay a little more. I think this is a fairer way to do it - many people will be happy enough with Audessey, Dirac is slightly more niche (having said that, I'm aiming for a new receiver in the near future and Dirac is a must-have)
@@misteral1083 Very true, I guess it is easier to accept when it is part of the overall price lol.
@@misteral1083 That is a good point, it will depend on what Marantz decides to charge for the upgrade.
Does a 5.1 setup on CINEMA 50 benefit from more watts per channel (since those extra channels are not used)?
Technically since all of the amp channels use the same power supply, you might hear a very small difference on dynamic passages that hit all of the speakers, but your overall power would not increase. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdviceI have also a 5,1 system and I wiandering I’d with it to spend the extra money from 60 to 50 ???
@@SemiramisHotel89 Its not that simple a question. We would need to more about the room and the rest of your system. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss things in more detail. Thanks for checking us out
I am planning to replace Denon x3500h, which I don't like for a stereo reproduction. I was thinking of x3800h, but now I am considering Marantz Cinema line instead, as Marantz AVRs are being regarded as being better for stereo too. Do you really find Cinema 50 being sonically so much better? Even Cinema 60 has HDAMs, or not?
The Cinema 50 has a better amplifier stage which you will appreciate for stereo listening. www.audioadvice.com/marantz-cinema-50-home-theater-receiver
@@AudioAdvice How far behind is Cinema 50 going to be to 40n for stereo music listening? Is that like - 10-20%, or still night & day? While I prefer one box solution (Cinema 50, if it is "goog enough"), might consider 40n + Cinema 70s combo for great stereo + good enough movies experience?
@@PetrKrenzelok The 50 sounds very good, you should be happy.
@@AudioAdvice ❤ Thank you 🙂
Anyone got a fave that does music great HT secondary? But very good?
I wonder if its worth the upgrade sr8015 for newer models
It’s replacement comes in 2023. Thanks for watching
Impressive AVR! Great video!
Glad you enjoyed the video, thanks for watching
it was a huge miss to not include Dirac Live in at least the 50 model. they are competing with other units that do include it (without and extra fee), available now, not "Sometime in 2023" - wth is that all about.
So my miniDSP mic will work with these now?
It should work with the 50 if you do the Dirac option.
What, no balanced connections? Maybe on upcoming pre/pros.
We can’t think of any receiver in this price range with balanced connections. The separates will have them. Thanks for watching
We have Gamechangers here boys!
Thanks for sharing
Why is it best to use arc for consoles
One less pass through so it will avoid any unnecessary delays. When gaming, you want the fastest possible response time you can get for a better experience.
Are wides supported on any of these units?
No. Not on these. Thanks for watching
Good looking gear.
Thanks. We think so too!
$1,700 and $2,500 for the cheapest models in the line-up - they used to cost $500 and $800 20 years ago with the same electronics. I'd understand if the power supply was better but it's not and it's powering more speakers for triple the cost. Now, I understand there's 65% inflation since then but this is a 300% markup.
Just keeping Marantz honest.
Are those respects for all channels driven or for RMS 2 channel listening
2 channels. Thanks for watching
When are the pre's coming out?
Sometime in the first half of 2023.
Which one has a trigger out so I can connect it to my McIntosh c2600?
Do you mean using the front preamp out to go into the home theater bypass input on your C2600? If yes, either one. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice so the trigger put connection is in the front of the unit and not the back?
@@tremelton1143 We are not sure what you are trying to do, please explain. Triggers are used to turn on things, not pass a signal
The hell did you just say @ 2:39?
Please explain?
The model numbering alone is enough to confuse me out of making a purchase decision.
Can't we just call them SR7016, and SR6016?
They definitely changed things up!
I have always liked Marantz which I moved to from a Denon but the Marantz which I have a few years old seems to drop out when its switching over to dolby vision when I have a DVD playing. Its very annoying and have no idea why its dropping the picture when it switching formats. It only a 2019 model so not that old either.
Do you mean HDR Blu-ray Discs? It could have something to do with your video display as well. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice Correct its actually when I stick in a Dolby Vision HRD 4k. I see the receiver switching formats and the picture cuts out. It does not do it on my other receiver which is actually a year older. TVs are identical. It seems the HDMI handshake is not staying connected when it switches formats.
There was a bug in the HDMI 2.1 connectors when they first came out on a lot of devices which caused black screens when switching between some formats.
The design is so amazing. Is this real carbon fiber? 😍
But I think the mid of the front is plastic I think
Thanks, it is not real carbon fiber, just has the look, its metal on the 50 and plastic on the 60. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice So the wohle front of the 50 is metal? Thats good because the older genration had plastic on the sides , only the mid of the front was aluminium. Even the 8015 had it like that.
Is the front pannel made of plastic or metal? Tank you
Great question, on the 60 it is plastic and on the 50 it is metal. Bear in mind this year, for the first time in decades with Marantz, the lower number is the better model. Thanks for watching
Can either of these receivers drive 4ohm passive speakers?
Yes, these have real amplifier sections. Thanks for watching
What is better:
Sr6015 or cinema 60? Price is about the same
The Cinema 50 replaced the SR6015, yes we know the numbers do not make sense. There are some differences, please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss which might be better for you
How does this cinema 50 compares to the SR7015?
The 50 replaced the 6015, a replacement for the 7015 and 8015 is coming next year. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice thnk you
Do the 50 and the 60 sound the same, features aside?
The 50 has much more drive and dynamics. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to help you select the best one for your system. Thank you for watching
great video ...
Thanks very much.
if you squint your eyes hard enough you might be lucky to see the volume level on the receiver.
Ha Ha. Its not that bad! Thanks for watching
😂 seriously 😂😂😂 for me there is no way to read that display from setting position, even if I have a gun point to my head 😂😂😂
I leave the display off as it's essentially useless from more than 3 feet away.
I can't see the receiver where mine sits anyway. Volume is displayed on the TV, I assume for the hearing impaired. [Joking of course].
Well, it sure looks bigger than my Marantz 5015. So, there’s that. In some situations the number used to appear on screen but that seems to have disappeared (software updates do not always include “improvements” we like, I guess.).
Does this support DTS HD?
The 50 and 60 support DTS HD Master, DTS:X, DTS Neural:X, DTS Virtual:X. Thanks for watching
When does the Cinema 70 come out?
2023 is what we show now. Thanks for watching
How do these map to the 5000 and 6000 series?
These actually come in silver which looks really nice 😄 Dirac will be too expensive.
The 60 is the replacement for the 5000 series and the 50 replaces the 6000 series, yes confusing numbers. We will post the Dirac cost once we know it. Thanks for watching
@@AudioAdvice Yeah, I know it's so confusing 🙂 Good video! You mentioned the warranties? Is Marantz going back to 5 years from 3?
@@techsamurai11 Yes, that is what the intro sheet they sent to us showed.
@@AudioAdvice That's good news - my complaints that the SR5200 used to offer a 5 year warranty while the triple priced 5015 offers a 3 year warranty, didn't go unnoticed ;-)
That has got to be the dumbest naming convention that will do nothing but piss off consumers who will naturally assume the 60 to be the better version over the 50
It’s like Wii/ Wii U thing with Nintendo levels of dumb naming