FIRST LOOK! Marantz CINEMA 30 Flagship Home Theater Receiver | 11.4 Channels w/ Dirac Live Support!
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Take your home theater to reference heights with the new Marantz CINEMA 30. The timeless yet modern styling is all Marantz, and the Japanese build quality ensures years of trouble-free use. Dirac Live support with Dirac Live Bass Control will ensure your speakers and subwoofers are tuned perfectly for your room!
EDIT* The Marantz SR8015 has 2 Independent Sub Outs, not 1.
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0:00 Marantz Cinema 30
0:15 Design & Build Quality
1:35 Features & Technology
2:14 70% Guarantee
3:57 Maximum Compatibility
4:58 Processing Muscle
7:00 Marantz SR8015 vs Marantz CINEMA 30
8:32 Marantz CINEMA 40 vs Marantz CINEMA 30
9:54 Performance Testing & Room Correction
13:10 Overall Recommendation
Marantz Cinema 30 11.4 Channel Home Theater AV Receiver w/ Dolby Atmos & Streaming Built-In
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Physical media is dead why even bother
I love that it has four separate sub connections! It has a great look too!
Us too!
I agree, great video, and those 4 independent sub outs can make a massive difference to the final room tuning.
Absolutely!
It took years for manufacturers to finally rate their amplifiers RMS both channels driven at 20-20,000 hz. Now here we are 45 years later and they are doing the exact thing and acting like it’s a new and. Improved method for amplification rating’s. History repeats itself.
Thanks for sharing.
The marantz cinema 30 is 53 watts per channel at 4 ohms all channels driven... 8 ohms is between 53 and 28 watts per channel, depending on how the A/B amps are set up... 🤔
@@Echo-jg8isbased on what? Have you tested, are you quoting another source, or just throwing out made up theoretical info? Please elaborate.
@@TurtleBones The law in the UK and EU states that the wattage on the rear panel is the maximum usage allowed under long-term and normal operation ( most of the world follows this outside UK and EU) ... It has a 760 Wattage consumption max with a760VA transformer ... The formula is very simple... Its wattage ( in this case its 760) takeaway 50 watts for the preamp section, then divide the remaining watts ( 710) by 1.3 for the A/B amplifier heat loss inefficiency @25% leaving 548 watts , then simply divide the remaining watts by the AVR channel count ( 11 )... Simple formula that works with every AVR...
I wish they did as Harman/Kardon did in it’s time, rating their amps all channel driven on the full spectrum of frequencies, that made all the differences. I have a receiver that needs replacement because it doesn’t handle 4K or the newest surround modes, HK AVR760 it was 7x85 watts all 7 channels driven or 2x100watts with only 2 channels. The amps weighs about 24Kg and the electrical power rating is 1220 watts.
I'm glad that they went with the same amps as the SR8015, that amp section is still top-notch.
Agreed! Thanks for watching
Nice detailed video! Marantz has such a clean look on top of good performance!
Couldn't agree more! Thanks!
Detailed? For example; what DACs are being used and don't say "ESS".
Just sticking with my SR8015, it is in a living room driving my Klipsch RF7-II atm and some surrounds and centre. I love a big AMP before this one I had an Onkyo 805 from years back. Love the device mostly plays at lower volume.
The SR8015 is a great unit and probably isn't worth the upgrade in some use cases. Sounds like you have a great setup!
Great video.I have always had separates....Amps, pre-amps, phono amp and so on. Im finding it cumbersome to find the room for the racks of audio equipment....Would you say these new receivers have gotten close to the performance of separates or would I be disappointed? Thanks.
They are getting very close!! It will depend on what your gear is. Call or chat with our expert at audioadvice.com and they can help you decide!
@AudioAdvice Outside of amp power, A/V receivers have long ago equal separates. I don't understand why people still waste money on over priced separates. Most of the top AVR'S have amp outputs if you to add extra amps.
Great video. If solely using the “pre-amp” mode with external amp… will there be much of a sound difference between cinema 40 vs 30. Thanks
The DACs in the Cinema 30 will still be better than the Cinema 40, so yes it should.
Thanks for the reply. Is this also true in “pre-amp” mode that Denon 6700 is more superior than 4800, 8500 is the beast of them all in preamp mode?
How would you compare the Marantz CINEMA 30 to Yamaha RX-A8A or the Sony STR-AZ7000ES. Does the Marantz warrant the additional cost? Quality of sound is my 1st consideration, dual subwoofer or lack of is a concern with the Sony, but the Sony 360 spacial sound mapping sure sounds like it would be amazing and help my current speaker layout is 9.2 that's with heights and back speakers. The Yamaha appears to be a contender based on sound quality and build. I'm planning to replace my Denon AVP-A1HDCI. I do not need amplification since I have all McIntosh amps powering the 9.2 one sub is a power sub. I will use the internal amps in the AVR to power additional ceiling speakers if I choose to add them, but that would be a future project. So reassigning the AVR internal amps or shutting them off completely would be welcome. At double the cost of purchasing another AV separate vs an AVR its just not possible at this time, so that's why my main consideration is sound quality. So tell me, am I looking in the right direction for these needs? I hope I explained it well enough...
Great questions and thoughts. You should contact us on our site at www.audioadvice.com and ask to set up an appointment for a phone conversation with one of our audio experts. Thanks for watching
Really good video. It sounds like its time for me to upgrade from the 40 as this is the perfect match for my system.
Go for it!
Really good video? Really? He's a salesman.
How does the Onkyo tx ds 989 compare to this new receiver? I got mine at a thrift store several years ago for $125.
Great question. Call or chat with our experts at audioadvice.com to see if they can help you compare.
You mention that Marantz products can make some dynamic movie scenes sound slightly subdued. How noticeable is it? Does the Denon 6800h have the same subdued sound on some dynamic movie scene? I'm still trying to decide between the Cinema 30 and Denon 6800h? It is not an easy decision! Do you have example of slightly subdued scenes that I can compare the Marantz and Denon on?
It's very minor and only noticeable in a very few moments. Some may not even hear it as we were being a bit nitpicky. We recommend you chat or call with our experts at audioadvice.com and they can help you decide which one would make more sense for you and your system.
Thank you very much
I’ve always loved the look and quality of Marantz. A step down from Mc equipment with beautiful looking sound. This AVR has everything except a soda dispenser.
Haha, it sure does! Thanks for watching 😁
7:40-my sr 8015 has two subwoofer outputs. Also what DACs are used in both? Saying ESS doesn’t really help.
Was waiting for him to open it up and tells us the DACS 😁😕
Right, never happened. Just trying to sell a product.@@EvoCarl
Yes we made a mistake. The SR8015 has 2 sub outs. The Cinema 30 steps up to 4. We haven't had a chance to take it completely apart to find which exact DAC models they are. Marantz does not list them either. We'll be looking into it!
Sorry about that! We haven't opened it all up quite yet and Marantz doesn't list them. We are looking into it!
@@AudioAdvice I look forward to a video addressing both.
Last Year I was going to pull the plug on a cinema 40, then I decided that maybe I would hold out and work on a full separates setup. This AVR is making me rethink that maybe I could still get separate amps for my bed layer and run my atmos speakers off the Cinema 30. I am thinking that it should sound quite close to full separates.
The Cinema 30 is a great piece of gear. You should also look into the Amp10 and AV10!
Impressive!
Agreed!
It's so confusing! Now I have to figure out if I should buy a Cinema 30 or a SR8015. What's the difference?
Cinema 30 has similar power but has support for Dirac Live and updated DACs for better sound.
@@AudioAdvice Awesome! Thanks for the reply!
@stacksmasher you will save about $2,000 by buying the 8015 instead of the 30. I have the 8015 and it's awesome. You have to ask yourself are u really going to use, like Direc live which isn't free you still have to pay for it. Which is about 450 I think. I run 2 subs if u gave more use a y adapter. Also I bet money on the DAC that you can barely hear the difference. I'm waiting till next series of Marantz by then you may hear the difference and Direc may be cheaper or even free. 😊
This vs the Denon A-1H. That is the question. The Denon is 70 lbs…so leaning towards that. Do y’all agree?
If you need the extra channels and don't want to use separates, Denon might be the way to go.
I have the anthem 1140 8k and looking at this one. Would it be a upgrade 🤔?
Depends. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to discuss.
@@AudioAdvice depends on what? Strange answer 🤔
Me: where do I plug this cable in?!
Marantz: yes!
Haha! That is good!
I want to buy an amplifier and now I'm thinking about which one to get. Anthem MRX 1140 8k or Marantz cinema 30. if you can help?
Get the Yamaha RX-A8A 8k receiver 11.2 channel.
I own this flagship and its the best I ever heard
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I'm from Switzerland. I'm just wondering if it's worth it to pay $1000 more and get Anthem, here Anthem costs $5400 and Marantz costs $4350
i want to get 7.2.6 sound. I heard that Marantz has more options than Anthem
Marantz went above and beyond on this one, I love it 👍🏻
Couldn't agree more!
above and beyond what?
@@brainguynyc8729your wallet! 😂
@brainguynyc8729 your budget.
Bro the only reasonable thing changed is the number which is "30".... And even that it went down not up
How would you compare this to sony STRAZ7000ES?
Both are good and each has some unique qualities. Please reach out to our team to discuss which might be better for your needs. You can find us at www.audioadvice.com.
Im really waiting for rotel to jump back on the home theatre wagon because I can say with all honestly out of all the home theatre products
I have used nothing came close to the warm sound quality i had with their processors of old
Fair enough! We do love Rotel products!
Will this be able to power the KEF R11 Metas and R2 Meta?
Yes, its a beast!
@@AudioAdvice Thank you for letting me know! I wasn’t able to find the power output of Cinema 30 for 4 ohms (3.2 ohms) tower speakers, could you please provide me an answer?
@@Stardust72707 Yes, for some reason they do not spec it, but it has a massive power supply which means it should be fine
It be interesting to know how the cinema 30 compares to the new denon 6800
Great point!
First thing, only denon has sony 360 spatial audio
Looks like an incredible AVR. I wonder how Anthem's MRX1140 would compare.
Great comparison!
I have the same question. I was pretty much set to go with the mrx740 but now I need more info
I just changed from an Anthem MRX 710 to the Marantz SR 8015 in October and was very happy . I was going to upgrade to the MRX 1140 but Marantz had such a great trade-in deal on the SR 8015 that I couldn’t pass up . Running a 7.2.4 system now . Adding in a separate 2 channel IA to power the front mains just because I have a very good 2 channel amp available
@@view23015which trade in deal are you talking about?
No sony 360 spatial audio? Denon x6800h has it...
Not that we are aware of.
Any reccemended receivers for the lg c1.
Got it from a buddy for cheap. Moved and has less room.
It gotta do 120hz and all the features. Xbox Series X does all that. It's just i think 120hz is not common. 60hz is for a tv.
i see 8k connections and 4k connections. the tv is 120hz. as long as 120hz and all those features work it's golden. doubly vision. hdr 10
I got svs packege a years ago. gotta be wired got banana plugs.
I got shafted one time buying blind. The last receiver didn't even have HDR. at least 60hz at 4k. Xbox s has issue and plays 1080p. I keep it for the 1080p tv in another room. why ever have 4k 30hz idk.
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@@AudioAdvice Just asking in general. probably not even close to your store if this video is for a store.
maybe something around $1000
The tv is a few years old already.
THose SVS speakers a bunch of years back did have a good review. I got the 5.1 $1000 packege deal. Another site.
Worth upgrade from sr8015? 🤔
If you have 4 subs and want to add Dirac, then yes!
@@AudioAdvice 5.2.4 setup. Bi-amped fronts. So then it comes down to Dirac then.
Yeah I want this !! Gotta go, sell my house first 😂
Haha, thanks for watching!
7:34 SR8015 does not have 1 sub out, it has 2...
You are right! We made a mistake. Thank you for pointing that out!
I am in Uganda how can I get it do you ship to Uganda?!
Sorry, we only ship in the US. Try checking Marantz website.
Nice review. Sadly, Auro-3D was not mentioned.
It does support it.
Nice
Thanks!
It looks and sounds nice but I will stick with my Yamaha A8A flagship receiver. But I do love the 4 sub woofers connection wow.
Fair enough! Yes the 4 subs are great!
lol nice but for $4500 I'm getting an Anthem / separates.
Fair enough!
Just to be clear i am not blaming this channel for the lack of that information. I've done some digging It seems that the DAC chip is the ESS9017S (S/N 120db THD+N -110DB) according to Ripewave Xpress. And as the cinema 30 looks virtually the same as the older SR8015 from the inside it will most likely deliver 220w into 4 ohms 2 channel at full bandwith according to test bench results from audioholics back in the day, maybe even more as this cooling design has an extra copper slab attached to the heatsink which the SR8015 doesn't have. My overall point is that i'm hoping these companies are going te be called out for this. In the end it will improve the quality of your content and it doesn't come across as a generic sales pitch. Instead providing potential buyers with the detailed specs we are so desperate to know.
Thanks for sharing what you found. We appreciate it and yes, we wish there was some standard every mfg had to adhere to that was very transparent.
It's really nice, but who wouldn't rather have an Anthem for around the same price? I think most people would.
Fair enough. It won't be for everyone!
I thought the AV10 was the Flagship?
It is the flagship processor. This is an AVR.
Come on Maranzt, where is Tidal Connect?
Good point. Thanks for watching!
Needs Qobuz tbh to be considered high end imo
Very thorough video, but still feel like I'm listening to a car sales pitch lol. You can get equal sound quality for much less money and proper tuning
Fair enough. Thanks for the feedback
I hate how you cant rent anything new from rebox so almost no more dolby atmos and most movies on like are in 5.1 dd whats the point to get anymore now a days.
Many streaming services have atmos now.
Hmmmm , rather Denon A1H is better despite more channels.
$2,000 more for the Denon A1H. If you need more channels and don't want to use seperates, that might be a better option.
Toroidal on both?
@@anestesiologistaНет. Только на Marantz Cinema 30!
WTF I bought the Cinema 40 6 months ago because it was the flagship. Never even saw anything about the Cinema 30. GRRRRRRR.
Actually everyone was expecting a Cinema 30. Did you think the SR 8015 would stay in Marantz´s lineup forever, as the only AVR with the old design?
Sorry about that.
@@stefanklein1863 Never looked at it. Was only interested in the Cinema line.
If you don’t need the extra channels or the 15 watts (which most don’t), I think you’re good with the 40, sir.
Dont buy stuff just because someone gives it a name tag, so many more important factors, thats a big mistake 🙄
Or you could buy the sr8015 for two thousand less minus the new look and two extra sub outs. Now if the new looks and two extra sub outs is your thing then by all means spend the extra money.
Plus this is Dirac enabled. So if you want Dirac, this is a huge step up !
@@AudioAdvice Have no experience with Dirac but have used XT32 and like all room correction software the end results are always garbage. Just my thoughts.
Plus more hdmi 2.1
@@AudioAdvice Why did you delete my comment? Interesting...........
How can the price be so high on this ‘high end’ stuff, its not material content as thats not much different from the other models, i cant believe incremental R&D costs over what is already know 🤔 its same with screens, how can a proj screen be $2000…. Its madness
Thanks for the feedback. This is their flagship receiver and has a lot to offer for the price. However, it will not be for everyone.
@@AudioAdvice yes, manufacturers set the ‘price to sell’ and if folk buy its clearly hitting the point… balance between volume requirements and price expectations
The prices don't make sense. 4500 for a 11 channel avr is madness. Sony is selling a 13 channel avr 3300 bucks.
Fair enough. It won't be the best choice for everyone.
@@AudioAdvice I get that but unless you're a Marantz fan I just don't know why the 30 makes sense. Plus Dirac is not included. I guess that's why you're the salesman and I'm in the comments section.
Again beyond my pocket
Fair enough. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for reading your website for me
We wrote this as an article and also turned it into a script for a video. That is why it is similar.
Yawn. Wake me up when you have balanced connections and not rca for everything. At least give the main channels and maybe the sub also balanced. At this price point no balanced connections is a letdown.
Fair enough. Thanks for the feedback!
$4500 for those wondering
Thanks!
No balanced Inputs. Weak.
Fair enough.
Pure marketing video rather than a scientifically accurate analysis of its performance!
Hense 'First Look' in the title.
The ASR website is up and running for you to pontificate over SINAD.
Thanks for the feedback.
Heres the think about marketing
, the cinema 30 looks more upscale over the 8015. Why because you say so, no it doesn't. Oh textures...oh lines...here take my money I cant feel less upscale.
Way too much money for a receiver, go seperates and the actually be upscale!
Some will prefer an all in one unit over separates. Many of us enjoy the new look. They've done a lot more than just changing the look too. But it won't be for everyone!
All for the low low price of a small fortune. This high end stuff is all the same. Way over the top expensive for that 10 or 5 or probably 1% gain. I swear people that have this level of money have more fun chasing down the next expensive piece of equipment to show off, rather than the actual purpose of this equipment.
Well we poor plebs can only wonder about whether they actually are worth it or not but ig that we will never find out.
Agree we would probably all buy if Money was no object but budget is one of the key criteria in choosing equipment IMO. The only benefit for the rest of us is when the manufacturer trickles down the technology to equipment the other 99% can afford. No problem with them making their money off the top 1% as long as they make great affordable equipment too.
I mean at this point just go separates
Thanks for sharing. It won't be for everyone!
Marantz is overrated and this is a perfect example of paid promotion 😊 14:07
nice paid review...no flaws no errors - just superlative 🤣
Our unit performed flawlessly. We wanted to give a solid overview of the product for someone to understand all the features and what it has in it compared to the older model and the Cinema 40. Of course, this won't be for everyone and it is a flagship unit and that comes with a higher cost. We always recommend that people chat with our team first to determine if this unit or something else is best for them.
Yamaha is much better.
Fair enough. Thanks for watching!
talking about transparency to consumers while not stating a 4 ohm 20-20.000h 2 channel driven rating or the type of ESS dac chip is funny and sad :')
Sorry you feel that way, but if you look over all of our product overviews you will find we get into great detail on both of those aspects, WHEN the mfg will tell us the type of DAC and/or power ratings. We will even look up DAC parts costs on Mouser and compare. And we will cheer on brands that double down into 4 and 2 ohms. In this case, Marantz does not provide the details.
Just to be clear i am not blaming this channel for the lack of that information. I've done some digging It seems that the DAC chip is the ESS9017S (S/N 120db THD+N -110DB) according to Ripewave Xpress. And as the cinema 30 looks virtually the same as the older SR8015 from the inside it will most likely deliver 220w into 4 ohms 2 channel at full bandwith according to test bench results from audioholics back in the day, maybe even more as this cooling design has an extra copper slab attached to the heatsink which the SR8015 doesn't have. My overall point is that i'm hoping these companies are going te be called out for this. In the end it will improve the quality of your content and it doesn't come across as a generic sales pitch. Instead providing potential buyers with the detailed specs we are so desperate to know.@@AudioAdvice
Next Marantz receiver cinema 20 16.4.6. 😂😂😂😂😂
Glad you liked it!
i dont like the look of the Marantz , but at least this one cinama 30 shows the speaker info on the screen unlike anything lower it shows no screen other than the cyclop screen , i like a big screen so i can see whats happening
Agreed! Thanks for sharing