I wish they'd show the Olympic fencing on tv, but Australia only ever shows swimming and gymnastics. It sucks! I want to see the fencing, karate, wrestling, oly lifting and throwing events. Basically everything Australia sucks at and won't bother showing.
It would be pertinent to explain why the valid target areas of each of the three weapons are different. Epee: Represents real life dueling. When fighting for your life getting hit anywhere can be a disaster. Foil: A training weapon for dueling, emphasizing protecting and attacking the vital organs in the torso. Sabre: A traditional cavalry weapon. Horseback combat. Your opponent will be seated in a saddle. A cut to the legs would not disable your opponent immediately, and attacking his horse was considered dishonorable. The target area being from the hips up reflects that reality.
Attacking the horse was not considered dishonarable. But a horse is a big animal and wouldn't go down with one cut. If you attacked the horse you would leave yourself open to an enemy attack. The person on the horse is what you have to worry about. Not the horse.
i always thought the sabre target was not the legs as you might hit the horse - and the horse is valuable whereas the guy not so much - so kill the guy and take his horse...lol
@@albertbresca8904 Thats also part of it. But the guy's ransom is probably more valuable than his horse. That didn't stop people from killing each other a lot of the time. You are not really thinking about the monetary value of things in a life and death situation. Whatever you can do to win. You will do that. including hitting the horse. Although most of the time it wasn't advantageous to hi the horse. In HEMA we don't go for the legs very often because it is very easy to doge and you leave yourself open to an attack.
I wantedt o start fancing, have absolutely no experrience or clue of fancing...can you suggest which weapon to start with? I know the differences becauseo f the yt videos but i really can't deceide...it all seems cool. Is there a away to know which weapon suits you best?
@@BlutrothDepending on what type of fencer you are you'll know which weapon to end up using. The sabre benefits attacking, the épée benefits defending and the foil is more neutral (that's why I suggest you to start with it).
Couldn't wait for this video after watching the other episodes! It was detailed and the graphics were awesome. Can't wait for more analytical videos as such
Awesome production quality We all know that last one at 2:28 was a counterattack not attack on prep, but to be honest they probably couldn't find any examples of AoP against the march in Sabre😅
It's much more entertaining to me to watch Saber Sparring, with historical fighting Sabers and not the sport version. Much more like and actual duel in combat
Also where I learned fencing to parry it is the bottom 3rd of the blade and guard, and a beat is done with the top of the blade. Or at least that’s how I was taughr
Been weeks since Twenty Five Twenty One (a korean drama series ; an excellent one at that *wink wink* with 2 of the main characters being fencers) has ended but I still keep on getting recommended videos like these. Thank you for the cool video btw!
At 1:39 you can see what's wrong with modern fencing: Attacker pulls back her blade, runs forward and has still right of way. Defender can't do anything but running back to the end of the piste. Especially not parrying!
how can you possibly determine this priority rule objectively and with the human eye? No demeanor, just an honest question. Looks like something you can argue forever about
Skill? Even in international competitions like Swordfish, technique looks amateur at best compared to this. If I had a dollar for every mechanically proper lunge I saw in military saber, I’d have $5. The other points are still dubious, but that’s a different story.
Epee has no priority rules and is first touch. You will notice a much slower pace with less noticeable action. It's the rules that enforce the cardio in sabre and foil.
Still don't understand the "priority" stuff. You are hit first ("cut/wounded") and still get a winning point? Just because you started your attack a bit earlier or moving forward? This is why they attack like crasy and not particularly afraid to be hit at this moment. I like epee - honest and straight. Though it needs different value points for different areas.
Yeah, but you're looking at it through an epee lens. i'm sure basketball seems weird if you've only heard of tennis. why are they jumping all the time? it's a game of footwork
I am only sure about the priority for foil but from the vid it looks like it's very similar for saber. With foil, if you are doing an attacking movement and for example run into the enemies foil but without that enemy binding your own foil with his, then the point is scored as invalid for him. If you are advancing on him and land a thrust but he also lands one on you, his thrust doesn't count because you were advancing.
Depends on whether or not you go for FIE or not. Non-FIE blades are usually made of some kind of low-carbon steel (definitely not aluminum), but FIE blades are made of maraging steel.
Cool video and one can learn a lot. But this "saber" would be the same as showing a straight, bigger sized Longsword and claiming that it is a Bidenhänder. Modern fencing should go back to the roots of their original weapons of war.
The FIE has destroyed the sport of fencing. Bring back the 1940s rules. An advance is not a attack. The bib of the mask at foil is not target area. The FIE knows nothing about fencing.
There is a term in historical fencing for this kind of behaviour. “Two dead idiots”. Why in sport fencing do they not slow down and concentrate on skill and technique? Instead of rushing in and constantly conceding points.
You ever seen HEMA matches? They are almost just as fast paced. Of course, both HEMA and fencing clubs on a local level are usually closer to what you are talking about (rules aren't always universal)
because, my man, this isnt about actual swordsmanship like the name implies. this is tag with bouncy sticks. whoever lands their attack gets a point, doesnt matter the quality of the hit, or logic in general. this is just a turn based RPG game but without the random luck. im a HEMA practitioner, and i see sports fencing as just a bit of fun. the kind of fun when youre playing csgo and both teams decide to ditch the match and start making paintings on the walls with bullet decals: stupid fun. also, military sabre is superior in every other way.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 thats not what hes arguing about, "sport fencers just run at each others' blades like blind idiots to score points", is his point.
@@funnysecksnumber6998 "isn't actual swordsmanship like the name implies" so that right there signifies that you know Jack shit, and are probably lying about being a Hema practitioner cause you don't know that the word 'fencing' is what they have been calling swordsmanship since the medieval era (if not even earlier) fencing comes from the word "Defense".
commenting is what I do You may both be correct. Swords Go Tap is referring to the following “Fencing was one of the first sports to be played in the Olympics. Based on the traditional skills of swordsmanship, the modern sport arose at the end of the 19th century”. A quote from Wikipedia. I know not the most reliable source, but it is a general description.
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This was the coolest fencing explained video I've ever seen
Same
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In fact,there’s 2 more😮
I agree
I just want to appreciate the editing behind this video!!!
I'm watching the Olympics and I was so lost wondering how they score.
Yeah
I wish they'd show the Olympic fencing on tv, but Australia only ever shows swimming and gymnastics. It sucks! I want to see the fencing, karate, wrestling, oly lifting and throwing events. Basically everything Australia sucks at and won't bother showing.
@@narcissus79the internet has all sports on live.
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I think you captured the most important part of saber fencing: ALWAYS scream at the top of your lungs when awarded a point.
It would be pertinent to explain why the valid target areas of each of the three weapons are different.
Epee: Represents real life dueling. When fighting for your life getting hit anywhere can be a disaster.
Foil: A training weapon for dueling, emphasizing protecting and attacking the vital organs in the torso.
Sabre: A traditional cavalry weapon. Horseback combat. Your opponent will be seated in a saddle. A cut to the legs would not disable your opponent immediately, and attacking his horse was considered dishonorable. The target area being from the hips up reflects that reality.
That is so interesting, thank you. I didn't even know this
I knew abt the Sabre one but not the other two
Attacking the horse was not considered dishonarable. But a horse is a big animal and wouldn't go down with one cut. If you attacked the horse you would leave yourself open to an enemy attack. The person on the horse is what you have to worry about. Not the horse.
i always thought the sabre target was not the legs as you might hit the horse - and the horse is valuable whereas the guy not so much - so kill the guy and take his horse...lol
@@albertbresca8904 Thats also part of it. But the guy's ransom is probably more valuable than his horse. That didn't stop people from killing each other a lot of the time. You are not really thinking about the monetary value of things in a life and death situation. Whatever you can do to win. You will do that. including hitting the horse. Although most of the time it wasn't advantageous to hi the horse. In HEMA we don't go for the legs very often because it is very easy to doge and you leave yourself open to an attack.
wow, I wish I had this video when I start fencing in 2009.
I wantedt o start fancing, have absolutely no experrience or clue of fancing...can you suggest which weapon to start with? I know the differences becauseo f the yt videos but i really can't deceide...it all seems cool. Is there a away to know which weapon suits you best?
@@BlutrothDepending on what type of fencer you are you'll know which weapon to end up using.
The sabre benefits attacking, the épée benefits defending and the foil is more neutral (that's why I suggest you to start with it).
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Couldn't wait for this video after watching the other episodes! It was detailed and the graphics were awesome. Can't wait for more analytical videos as such
Awesome production quality
We all know that last one at 2:28 was a counterattack not attack on prep, but to be honest they probably couldn't find any examples of AoP against the march in Sabre😅
Thanks for saving me from my existential crisis. I watched it over and over again and was still baffled.
The example was off but the explanation was good
It’s an AoP because the other girl also touches so two leds and in a contre attaque only one led is possible
@@julesh1n167 ah i see 🤔
It was very clear and organised but the last one is def a tricky one. I love sabre
This is a very good explanation. Detailed and simple at the same time. I loved it. 👍
Wow this is by far the coolest and most detailed video in fencing. Whoever made this, good job! It gives a lot of gpod info Great effects too
This series is the BEST I've EVER SEEN. Super awesome. Thank you.
wish there was a style that was a mix of sabre and eppe. no priority, just hit with anything
Sounds like actual sword fighting…love it XD
Omg yess
@@FalafelLogan that's called hema which is a fair bit better than sport fencing
that's called hema
Me too! For now Epee is my best bet
It's much more entertaining to me to watch Saber Sparring, with historical fighting Sabers and not the sport version. Much more like and actual duel in combat
Isn't the last touch a counter attack from left?
It is. It's unfortunate that the priority explanation is all over the place, because the presentation is really nice and clean.
I think they meant attack in preparation outside the box
0:19 --> Selecting a weapon in Assassins Creed
Outstanding demonstration for this layman.
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Finally! I've waited for this for so long!
Heh, I think I finally understand attack in prep in Sabre!
what a phenomenal explanation. now i can sit on my ass with a giant plate of nachos and critique the olympics.
Exciting to watch
That scream at the end xD
Also where I learned fencing to parry it is the bottom 3rd of the blade and guard, and a beat is done with the top of the blade. Or at least that’s how I was taughr
That last touch is not attack in prep if they stopped. The Clío they used was a counter block out.
Been weeks since Twenty Five Twenty One (a korean drama series ; an excellent one at that *wink wink* with 2 of the main characters being fencers) has ended but I still keep on getting recommended videos like these. Thank you for the cool video btw!
Since when does an attack in preparation require a "significant gap", unless you're actually referring to a point-in-line?
Can any not specialist follow the fight? There are so complicated rules its really hard to understand how they collect points.
That bloody scream at the end XD
This is amazing
Awesome video!
This is such a good video
Theme music: calm and attentive
End: AAAAHHH!
I like this clear visualisation, thank you.
Still a suicidal sport though.
Idk anything about fencing but great video editing
Gooooood
thanks you
Imagine accidently getting flicked in the nuts with that
cool
At 1:39 you can see what's wrong with modern fencing:
Attacker pulls back her blade, runs forward and has still right of way.
Defender can't do anything but running back to the end of the piste.
Especially not parrying!
Ah yes im in fencing now
The epee and foil fights:Bro just go. No you go
Sabre fights:Lightsaber duel
Foil also has the "attacker's right"
how can you possibly determine this priority rule objectively and with the human eye? No demeanor, just an honest question. Looks like something you can argue forever about
There’s tractor and sensors on the blade
Interesting. I feel like I was just explained fencing by nasa
splendid... except the dead should never win though ....
Actual Military Sabre is superior in terms of looks, practicality, skill, and the viewer's experience.
Ah yes we shall fence with actual weapons instead of metal sticks
Skill? Even in international competitions like Swordfish, technique looks amateur at best compared to this. If I had a dollar for every mechanically proper lunge I saw in military saber, I’d have $5. The other points are still dubious, but that’s a different story.
@@tdoyr You do know sparring with blunt weapon with realistic weight and balance instead of a 500gram stick is a thing, right ?
Shut up it’s funnier when you call them metal sticks
@@tdoyr Sure, so funny...
Why do they have all these complicated rules about right of way and priority? Why not just say first touch wins the point?
Cuz then you’d have both sides bucking at each other at full speed every touch 💀💀💀
It’d be a no-skill sport and very boring at that
Epee has no priority rules and is first touch. You will notice a much slower pace with less noticeable action. It's the rules that enforce the cardio in sabre and foil.
Its harder than it looks i took 1month to complete sabre fencing its hard
Complicated rules!
Still don't understand the "priority" stuff. You are hit first ("cut/wounded") and still get a winning point? Just because you started your attack a bit earlier or moving forward? This is why they attack like crasy and not particularly afraid to be hit at this moment. I like epee - honest and straight. Though it needs different value points for different areas.
Yeah, but you're looking at it through an epee lens. i'm sure basketball seems weird if you've only heard of tennis. why are they jumping all the time?
it's a game of footwork
I am only sure about the priority for foil but from the vid it looks like it's very similar for saber. With foil, if you are doing an attacking movement and for example run into the enemies foil but without that enemy binding your own foil with his, then the point is scored as invalid for him. If you are advancing on him and land a thrust but he also lands one on you, his thrust doesn't count because you were advancing.
Heey, my plan is to buy a saber, do you know what the material of the blade is?
Not sure what they are made of but you can search some of the brands such as “Allstar”
Usually aluminum, sans the grip, which can be made from several materials, like rubber, plastic, and leather
@@AdeptArin okay thank you very much
Tissue paper. Or maybe silk ribbons.
Depends on whether or not you go for FIE or not. Non-FIE blades are usually made of some kind of low-carbon steel (definitely not aluminum), but FIE blades are made of maraging steel.
How does anyone follow this in real time?
2:50 😂
Schrodinger's priority :(
Cool video and one can learn a lot. But this "saber" would be the same as showing a straight, bigger sized Longsword and claiming that it is a Bidenhänder. Modern fencing should go back to the roots of their original weapons of war.
2:48
These sounds lol
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Wow, it never ocurred to me how convoluted and non intuitive the rules in "sabre" "fencing" are. Can we now oficially rename the sport to: stick tag?
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Crossing the legs is illegal. Something something priority.
Uh, OK. I couldn't care less then. Dumb rules.
not one modern olympic fencer is fencing with correct etchnique the sabre that you show in this is bloody awful
The FIE has destroyed the sport of fencing. Bring back the 1940s rules. An advance is not a attack. The bib of the mask at foil is not target area. The FIE knows nothing about fencing.
Wow. You must be the person who knows fencing the most since you know more than a whole international organization. I appreciate your judgment
There is a term in historical fencing for this kind of behaviour. “Two dead idiots”.
Why in sport fencing do they not slow down and concentrate on skill and technique? Instead of rushing in and constantly conceding points.
You ever seen HEMA matches? They are almost just as fast paced. Of course, both HEMA and fencing clubs on a local level are usually closer to what you are talking about (rules aren't always universal)
because, my man, this isnt about actual swordsmanship like the name implies. this is tag with bouncy sticks. whoever lands their attack gets a point, doesnt matter the quality of the hit, or logic in general. this is just a turn based RPG game but without the random luck.
im a HEMA practitioner, and i see sports fencing as just a bit of fun. the kind of fun when youre playing csgo and both teams decide to ditch the match and start making paintings on the walls with bullet decals: stupid fun.
also, military sabre is superior in every other way.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 thats not what hes arguing about, "sport fencers just run at each others' blades like blind idiots to score points", is his point.
@@funnysecksnumber6998 "isn't actual swordsmanship like the name implies" so that right there signifies that you know Jack shit, and are probably lying about being a Hema practitioner cause you don't know that the word 'fencing' is what they have been calling swordsmanship since the medieval era (if not even earlier) fencing comes from the word "Defense".
commenting is what I do You may both be correct. Swords Go Tap is referring to the following “Fencing was one of the first sports to be played in the Olympics. Based on the traditional skills of swordsmanship, the modern sport arose at the end of the 19th century”. A quote from Wikipedia. I know not the most reliable source, but it is a general description.
Video is preety good but sport sabre sucks.