Top 10 Most Creative Sabre Touches
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- Опубліковано 10 сер 2020
- (that I could remember based off the matches i have seen)
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This is my first time watching fencing and it's pretty amazing. They're so fast that even at 0.25x slo-mo I often can't tell who won!
LOL I know right I'm watching and saying to myself "Cool, but I have no idea what's happening right now!"
Can’t believe this comment what are you a sloth? How can you think they are fast, plus they are so predictable that is funny and lame! You should see real martial arts in a real japanese academy, thats fast and real and useful this is a kids game compare to that or well conpare to anything is just a kids game!!!
@@davidhidalgo6278 Yeah righto mate, no doubt you could beat all of these guys with one leg tied up too couldn't you
@@davidhidalgo6278 Chubby keyboard Warrior
@@GeneralG1810 not like that but im prett sure in real life they will not stand a chance 100% guaranteed, this is a sport for pussies get serious they will not survive 1 minute in the guetto pal
No.3 has fantastic stuff for coaching. On the back line, the defender generates masses of distraction / confusion. This slows the attacker right down. The prime-riposte finish is made possible by really hard, tactically intelligent set up.
Bravo!
I too, was really impressed by this
played it again a few times haha
Prime really? Looks a tierce.
Nothing more satisfying then just lightly tagging the lead arm of a attacker on a back pedal.
More satisfying is to break his fingers :)
Wrist touches are way more satisfying
How about finishing a badass compound attack?
It's called an Oh Sanguk special lol
It's the weirdest and most convoluted game of tag that I have ever seen, that's for sure.
I swear some fencers are actually just jedi not normal people
Eh, hard to say when most of them haven't translated their sport fencing to something like highlands broadsword, polish sabre, backsword, rapier, or longsword.
@@SwordTune Because Jedi are renowned for their use of highlands broadswords
@@SlicerSabre Count Dookoo's use of makashi is said to be inspired by fencing, but it mirrors the styles used a few centuries back more than it does modern styles. I've practised the broadsword positions, so I feel that and similar styles like the backsword are well represented.
Sabre is a very hard sword to do but I just happen to be one at 9 years old, got my first medal in my 3rd competition, first gold at the 5th never actually started at foil, just went up directly to Sabre
@@ethanebang7507 You wot mate? Call me old fashioned, but I think it is imperative to begin at foil. Then, one may choose to go onto sabre or epee, ideally both. It's just improper to jump into sabre without proper training. I took a bloody exam on directing bouts, guiding drills, and vocabulary. I wasn't allowed to hold a sword until after a month of pure footwork. And even then, it was just footwork with the foil!
Kids these days, where's the discipline?
Ref's reaction at 1:45 is priceless
1:46 even the ref was like "Dayum son".
*"Tag! You're it!"*
number 10 took some balls to pull off at a tie. Number 4 is something I've only ever seen in foil
A foil friend of mine did that same move in a sabre bout years ago....i think it was the only time he DID sabre.
The look on his opponent's face was priceless!
Well it’s fairly common in foil
3:23 person on the left be like: Your tactics confuse and frighten me sir
The touch by Gemesi on Samele was borderline contemptuous. Samele is a great sport to have taken that so well.
Can you explain why that is to a non fencer? Is it because there was a more efficient touch available?
@@ShaneusSnake It was the sheer audacity of that little nick on the retreat. Gemesi was in essence 'showing off' with his preparatory bounce which instead of launching into a direct attack or a parry/riposte as would have been expected, turned into an opportunistic touch. It was very cheeky.
@@celestialtoystore Thank you!
This is one of many reasons that fencing is the ultimate big brain sport, not just a swordfighting sport.
absolutely. A lot of people don't realise how much strategy and technique and quick thinking is required.
Funny how whenever Szilágyi gets hit by one of these he looks like he's trying to find a way to protest the touch
Btw 10 only happened because Kim wasn't ready when the ref called fence but didn't want to stop and risk a card 😂
Funny that he got touched as he got advantage of early action yet he still want to protest the touch
@@christianalbertjahns2577 On one match Szilagyi made a fuss when the referee forgot to give him a touch, he didnt add it on the scoreboard. That is ok and the referee added it. Few actions later Szilagyi scored, the referee added the touch and Szilagyi or the other fencer protested about something. They talked a bit and at the end the referee gave Szilagyi another touch, he forgot he had already given the point to him and just gave him another one after they stopped talking. No card or anything, he just didnt remember he had already changed the score so basically Szilagyi got a point for free. No one on the venue noticed at the time though or said anything. Szilagyi vs Xu T16.11 touch was awarded normally and 12th touch was given free to Szilgyi. Cannot remember the competition though :/ Something in 2019 or last competition of 2020
@@archardor3392 from what I've read from you, the cause is probably confusion from ref and some others. The first time Szilagyi protested, he absolutely had the right to do so. The second time though, I see it was caused by confusion. I can't see that it was because Szilagyi wanted some free touch by tricking the ref. Apparently Szilagyi is a good guy, or at least the guy presents himself as a good guy.
@@christianalbertjahns2577 Oh, definitely. He didn't get the touch by trickery, it was sheer confusion. But Szilagyi noticed and didn't protest his free touch either so that is also to be accounted for.
I love people who compare Star Wars with fencing
I like the touch of Apithy vs Szilagyi.
I also do like it, the trap is perfectly set.
Bro the directors reaction to the riposte at 1:46 is priceless lmaooo
Casares hitting the riposte when his opponent tried to do hit "dolphin step" back at him is amazing.
Just love a sport where you don't and will never see what happened no matter of the video quality.
HA!! The algorithm brought me here and I am gonna be in a perplexed state for the next few hours trying to sort these "touches" out.
This is what I love about fencing. Number 2 is my favourite, one I've tried more than once.
The best touches I saw were by Michele Maffei. He had a slow tempo riposte (often a belly cut) that was unique among saber fencers.
1:21 they had us in the first half
This is the kind of video I like to see in my main page. Great work!!
10/10!! #SEVEN (Szilagyi vs. Apithy) and #ONE are my favorites!! #8 reminded me of: "...foilist." #4 was great, and #3 was great calm and creativity in that tight distance.... was the Female Saberist on the right Cecelia Berder?
Thank you so much! Avid Fencer Fanatic (and obviously saberist). :D
Yeah that's Berder, glad you liked it!
Ahhh number 9, the fabled "startled cat" technique.
1:47
you can see even the ref was impressed
Number 8. Straight out of an old Italian rapier manual. (not saying they're the same weapon, but it's good to see what works by mechanics can just... work)
Number 4. Variation on a smallsword move.
0:38 these guys have excellent counter attacks. This dude hit the guy literally while jumping in the air dodging the flurry of swings knowing the perfect time to strike.
2:18 this dude hit the guy while literally ducking under his swing like the godamn matrix
The N°3 is brilliant
The number one is such a tiny gentle touch, like a little tap on the opponent's belly
Their movements remind me of when I was a kid playing tag. The one being chased would gas out and youd have a tag back battle lol.
#4....dear God, #4!
#2....like a maneuvering kill in air to air combat.
#1...a bouncing attack so epic, even the Koreans are saying "Dayaaaaaammmm!"
And if Koreans react with “Dayaaam” it means you have done a great job hahaahhah
The guy that turned around to get his opponent was pretty damn impressive.
You earn my subscription my guy
This is Amazing
As a fencer I watch also other duals with other weapons but that goes so slow, fencing is the real deal.
Aaaand this is why saber remains the most interesting of the three western styles:
Vectors and the cutting edge. 💪😎🤟
Those gaining + 'flying' advances were especially awesome. No X-step required, either.
the 3rd one is really epic!
3rd to the last*
the second last one. the one with OH is the best. No fancy blade contact so very clear to everyone.
Multi angles and s lo-mo 4:12 4:12 make it more comprehensible to the tyro spectator.
I think the 2nd one was the best because it’s so crazy how he just slashed his opponent and won.
mad respect, because i have no idea what i'm watching.
Hello Slicer Sabre thank you for the excellent compilation! :) Might you know the identity of the USA fencer at 1:47 (#6)?
Even in slow mo I could understand what happened in most of these.
Number 7 dude was beyond. Pretending he’s laggin to appeal to the emotions of his competition, and won.
Oof...
Not sure why I expected this to be HEMA saber (curved blades, cutting, etc), but am pleasantly surprised to watch some fencing.
This is an interesting sport tbh
the infighting 5 behind the back does it for me next is the second intention attack to the guard for a parry reposte towards the beginning
The last is the best
These guys will be experts if in the future only melee weapons existed in a war which instantly vaporizes people when they get touched by it.
2:34 when Gerek Meinhart does saber 😂
would love these kinds of videos to have some kind of arrow, explanation, anything. Can hardly tell where the sabre is, let alone what is happening :'(
Sabre is a very hard sword to do but I just happen to be one at 9 years old, got my first medal in my 3rd competition, first gold at the 5th never actually started at foil, just went up directly to Sabre
This is a rapier
Ehhmm no? This is sabre fencing
@@kevin4852 Then why tf the swords are straight and thin and not curved like a sabre is?
If you know, please teach me
@@erichvondonitz5325 Sure thing, I myself am a fencer too. In Olympic or modern fencer you have 3 weapons Sabre, epee and foil. You can see what weapon it is by looking at the guard and weapon length. This weapon is an Sabre because if you look at the guard it’s connected from the blade to the beginning of the handle. What’s more is that you can score touches with the blade itself and not only with the point. With epee and foil you can only score touches with the point. The weapon in Olympic or modern fencing that is the rapier is epee. If you have any other questions I’ll be glad to explain :)
@@kevin4852 Doesn't look like a sabre though.
Touché
Which is the most popular style?, what are the advantages/disadvantages of one over the others?
2 is incredible
Petition to officially change the term "touch" in this sport to make it cooler. Its not really a high bar to achieve. Unless people still want to touch each other for a couple more decades to come.
1:47 you can even see the face of the referee like "wwow what a hit"
Who would win: a Georgian sabreur or one hoppy boi
imma go for the boi
I feel like those anime background characters that can't see anything important during the protagonist's battle
The last one
I thought that the behind the back touch was the best!
Bravo
OH Sanguk just started using mind games
If they srep out of the mat thing then if there r cards then do they get a card or lose and other win!?
I had to grab my glasses
Competitive tag but both are the seekers.
num 4 was the best
parry riposte behind back
the only actually creative one.
Whoever filmed number 6 deserves a medal, right? @cyrusofchaos ;)
Thank you for your service
Luke Haynes it's in the mail
@@CyrusofChaos who is the USA fencer? Thank you :)
@@susanwang4972 Luke Linder
yaaaaa number 2
Just thinking about silver chariot right now
They don't ask how, they ask how many.
I liked 3 for the low guard ^^ (I’m not a sabre/epee fencer but HEMA so I love different guards)
A maior parte dos pontos é feita em contra ataque(?),o melhor é esperar pelo adversário!
I have no idea what made these touches creative.
You love to see it
This is the first time ever watching this sport. Damn these people are fast? I can see how their footwork would be very useful in boxing and MMA. But I have a some questions.
1. Is there a string or wire attached to their back? I couldn't see it on all of them, so I'm not sure if that's what I'm seeing, but if they are, why do they need that?
2. The swords are so fast it's almost like they're using it as a whip. How can the judges see it to score the points? I can barely see it the hit land in slow motion, how can the judges see it in real time?
3. Who in fencing would be considered the "Michael Jordan" or "Muhammed Ali" of Fencing? Who is the GOAT of this sport? I really want to see their highlights to see if I can see the difference in skill level.
Mad respect to the sport of Fencing. That shit looks hard AF! 👊🏼👏🏼🤝🏼
The fencers are attached to an electric scoring machine that turns on a light if they land a hit.
If you watch enough fencing you don't really need to see the actual blade to understand where it is, it's a bit like hockey where it can be difficult to see the puck but if you watch enough you can follow where it is.
The GOAT of sabre fencing is a contentious issue but the strongest contender is probably Aron Szilagyi who has won gold at the last three Olympic games.
Excellent Question and answer. My curiosity answered
Number 6 🤺
why cant foilists have a youtube channel this good
My comment:
#10 : an unconventional second intention. probably happens more often in foil. it's quite conventional that Szilagyi made his own opening, in which Kim capitulated it.
#9 : I can't see it other than good reaction from Hartung but somehow I can see that Hartung wanted to lure Montano to make mistake by using and he succeed. The execution, though, was quite sloppy but he got what he wanted.
#8 : unconventional but the reason is not because it was creative (it was creative, obviously) but because it was illegal (or should be illegal). the green fencer (FotR) parried and delivered the riposte AFTER he turned his back. he should get a card.
#7 : somehow I think Apithy didn't hear the referee quite clear, that's why he acted late. Nevertheless, he turned his tardiness to act into unintentional second intention. Impressive.
#6 : a classical second intention that quite rare to see. classic second intention since the red fencer (FotL) feign a mistake (that is both distance and blade position "mistake") and then got absolutely ready to parry their opponent's attack
#5 : ducking is quite unconventional. Kim K. managed to spring a distance trap but probably just like #9, the execution probably could be more smooth. If he didn't duck, the point would be Szatmari's (which was probably why Szatmari bited the bait)
#4 : really look like foil touch. really clever move from red fencer but I can't see that he made that move intentionally. still a great touch.
#3 : I can see that Berder(?) want to bait Kim into making mistake but somehow the touch was because her reaction. Great touch, nonetheless.
#2 : in my opinion, this should be #1. really nice to see that Oh wanted to exploit the perceived threat of Korean bounce to get a point without making touch. probably unintentional but his over the top bounce convinces me otherwise. Oh made an over the top bounce without closing the distance is probably why his opponent got scared and reach the off-line.
#1 : this is very great (though I think #2 is superior) but also not as weird as many would think since I see it as classic distance trap repertoire with weird execution (since the goal is the same: make a distance trap). the trap got sprung so brilliantly. very great touch.
Best comment.
Okay it seems like you are the PERFECT person for me to ask this question to. Because I came to the comment section to either just leave a comment asking this or hopefully finding someone talking about it. But what happened in the first match? (Or I guess I should say match #10) No matter how slow I play it, I still can't see or figure out what happened? I'M SO CONFUSED!!! lol I just can't see the touch no matter how hard I try, so I hope you can explain it to me considering you have a good understanding of what's happening in this entire compilation.
I hope you're having a good day by the way :)
@@Shiznittlebizbampop1 well I don't know whether you are new to fencing or not but here we go.
First thing first, sabre (which is the discipline shown in this video) is the most fast paced and reactive combat and because of that, most of the time, the fencers immediately lunge or make other premeditated actions. This is also the reason why fencers are prone to jump the gun (and it's penalized to do so).
Let's go to the #10 touch. After the referee said "allez" (which means essentially "commence" or "start fencing/fighting"), Szilagyi (at the right of the referee) happens to start earlier than Kim (at the left). Kim probably thought Szilagyi jumped the gun or he didn't hear the ref himself but he decided not to ask the ref to halt the bout. Szilagyi probably thought that the ref would halt the bout and relaxed his stance and at that moment Kim threw an attack at Szilagyi and scored a point (and since it was his 15th point, he won the match). Looking back again, I think all of this was intentional. Regardless, it's a brilliant touch
@@christianalbertjahns2577 To answer your question I am fairly new, but have always as long as I can remember been very interested in fencing. But as of actually diving in (Apart from going to a class. So pretty much just watching videos of matches.) I haven't very much, but I have been watching and trying to learn as much as I could for the past couple of months.
So considering the video/round I asked about, I could see why I was so confused because it's definitely a genius move. Because I thought the referee would have stopped the fight before he made the point, or would have not counted it because as you said he "jumped the gun" so thank you very much for explaining it.
9 is best and creative it is definitely best🎉🎉
I don’t understand a single moment of this. Makes me want to go down and join my local fencing club when this pandemic allows training to resume again
1:45 cold blooded
gave them real blade
No.2 because i like oh
No idea who was winning, very fast ?
The olden days ,I imagine the scarlet fountain would help identify the winner.
Which touches did I miss?
instagram.com/p/B7MG_icpYNk/
yakimenko sabre drop
@@lonilie That's a whole different vid.
Lester Kurvers 😂😂
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Second 1:25. 🤺😉
7 is a play straight out of Fiore
When only Sabre fencing pops up on ur recommend but ur a foil fencer 😐
💙💙💙
What are those things attached to there backs on a string for?
Wires and a tether for the scoring equipment.
What am I missing in #3? Doesn't she just miss and hit the back of the prime parry?
its just a classic parry-riposte. she parries one and then ripostes to the head.
3:20 this technique my students...is called the angry bunny
why do they have that leash?
I have no idea who won in any of these confrontations.
9 is the best
MY SPORT
If you are an alien who is watching this video from a generation ship heading to Earth, don't get any ideas - this is not a war, nor is it a series of duels where the object is to kill the opponent.
#9 Distance and timing
Number 9 hit her with the crouch jump ☠️☠️
Edit: proper numbering
Always assumed jumping is not allowed as i never see it
What’s with the vertical jumping?
It's primarily a way to make it hard for the defender to judge distance, but it also gives the attacker more time to react and build an attack
Where i can find this vid? 3:47