I follow a lot of the popular atheists (Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennet, Harris, etc) and I have to say Barker is fantastic when it comes to debunking this nonsense. He speaks so fluently and to the point. He knows his stuff.
Thank you for putting up Dan Barker's entire speech. I've heard him quoted out of context. This is the clearest, most concise summary of his arguments. Brilliant.
Indeed. The months where I struggled to reconcile the problems in my belief -- finally ending in my admitting it was all bunk -- were the worst of my life. But, in the end, I believe it was worth it.
@@theheavenless for myself, I just became aware that everything was even more mysterious and “magical” than I had previously imagined, and that it was nothing to do with a bunch of old guys making up rules 🙏🏼
It still amazes me that I had this figured out before I was eight years old and grown people still believe in this nonsense. We need more of these channels. Good job.
Jacob aka night (Nyx/Nox), wrestles with the dawn (Eos/Aurora) and dawn always wins. On a yearly basis, the wrestling match begins at he autumn equinox/evening and is concluded at the spring equinox/morning.
In ancient times, there was no unemployment insurance. No retirement fund. If you were an old, tired man, you had to come up with a hustle, and fast! Everybody knew about the "Sacred Knowledge" that was circulating all over the Empire. Old men called "Wandering Holy Men" were in every corner of the Mediterranean. Every town had a resident Wandering Preacher, who carried scrolls under his arms. Such men were in great demand. The wealthy loved to invite them into their parlors, so they could watch and hear their wild stories, about demons, and angels, and mighty heroes who fought for "Salvation". They often sang, and danced around, while reading their poems. A crippled old man could make a decent living at it! By the time the 4th Century rolled around, hundreds of "Gospels" had accumulated within the Empire. It was time somebody collected them, and tried to make coherent sense of them. Constantine ordered a "cannon" be put together. About 80% of these fables were discarded, or destroyed. The "Holy Trinity" had to be quickly invented, so as to prevent "Christians" from being accused of Blasphemy. In no time, we had a new religion centered around a "Man-God" who violated the First Commandment. But the Jews immediately condemned it all. They had strict control over their "Holy Scrolls". And so you see in all the process, lots of old men got room and board, and we got our "Holy Christ Savior"!
Saying a man died and stayed dead is not a special claim, it happens every day. Saying a man rose again after a day and a half takes a lot more than a few anonymous authors writing decades later to be believed.
Losing a beloved friend and teacher is very difficult to accept when you can create an alternative reality in which that person is still with you in your mind. The best way to bring back that person is to write great inspiring stories full of wisdom and miracles.
Humans wrote all the tales of "MIracles", and "Wisdom". Humans wrote all the "Holy Books", and invented all the "Prophets", and "Gods"; and then the "Christians" accuse us of being evil!
It is sad that in the 21st century, there are billions of people who still cling to this fantasy and fairytale, to paraphrase the magnificent Stephen Hawking …”There are no miracles or exceptions to the laws of Nature.” One could also apply this to every single so called “miracles” expressed in the old ancient book written in the Bronze Age by Sheepherders.
Unfortunately it's baked into our upbringing. I've loved Math & Science since at least 2010, yet in those very years I was a young earth creationist. I nearly became an atheist in 2016, having finally understood evolution well enough to see that it was in fact superior to creationism, and not just on par with it (having even earlier believed it to be inferior). What happened then? I slipped back into religion. Though my world view was shattered, I guess my desperation to retain some semblance of my former world model grasped at anything it could, and soon I could counter my teachers 'rational claims' about the limitations of Christianity with faith healings I'd supposedly witnessed performed through it, and then I finally had the simplest ideas of capitalism explained to me, and flipped from an anti-capitalist (about 4 months old as one) to effectively an anarcho-capitalist, where the free market, unburdened by any form of regulation or bureaucracy was the way to go, and off I went with the Right for a good few years before eventually growing disillusioned when I started to see them doing a lot of what they were accusing the Left of. Yet still, despite thinking myself a centrist, and since 2016 bouncing between christian and agnostic, I retained what I would now call a Right wing attitude / world view, just being wary of conspiracy theories and wild / emotional claims. No matter how many Atheist videos I enjoyed, I would still bounce back Christian, and it wasn't because I was taking it lightly, I loved the thrill of having my beliefs challenged, it's just that overwhelming evidence did not quite equate to certainty in my mind, so while I'd see problems with the Christian idea, I didn't come across any 'gaping holes' that rendered it impossible, and from that little speck of possibility would crawl back my faith. Then I finally saw Genetically Modified Skeptic's video "The Realization that Shattered my Faith" ua-cam.com/video/LU-u5ZlYdzk/v-deo.html , and in it he also covered the origins and evolution of the idea of hell, which helped. In it he covered this concept of a "Thought Trap", a flawed method of thinking that circumvents rational thinking and helps a belief reproduce. This idea struck home, as I found I had been guilty of it. A few more videos on academic research into biblical texts, and I realized, despite these people actually putting together the evidence with which to assess the bible, they and their credible work don't so much as get acknowledged by any pastor or church leader, they are treated as though they don't exist. In place of their concrete, well researched work, gets preached what simply amounts to the pastor or church leader's personal musings on what the bible must mean, starting with the assumption that it's all valid, as opposed to the complex landscape that those who've actually assessed it show. As of November, 2023, I finally became an Atheist, and simultaneously as I was losing faith I was also assessing the views of the Left, why they believed what they believed, and found little wrong with it on re-analysis, as opposed to all the horse shit conspiracy theories the right has been running with since at least Covid. The Right's strength is the simplicity of the ideas it preaches, but they oversimplify things to make it work, the picture is a lot messier than they'd like it to be. Maybe that's why they've been dialing up the crazy, to cover the details that don't add up.
@@polarisraven5613 All I have to say to Christians about "Christianity" is.. "What was "God" doing before he decided he'd send us his son ? I have yet to hear an explanation that makes sense.
I would have to believe that I am guilty of breaking divine laws, just in order to buy into the Jesus Christ claims. I have no reason to believe that divine laws exist, just as I have no reason to believe that heaven and hell exist. As far as I am concerned, the Jesus Christ claims have no merit. Religious people can shout "sinner" at me as much as they like, but that will have no impact at all. Sin assertions only have merit if you buy into the biblical claims. To anyone outside of Christianity, shouting "sinner" sounds bonkers.
5:23-5:46 "When the women came back from the tomb, the disciples said their their stories seem to us like idle tales. … If Thomas didn't believe why should I believe?" Because, of course, it is an incredible tale. The disciples including Thomas certainly believed when Jesus appeared to them. Note that Thomas then touches the wounds on Jesus' body. Now how could he do that had Jesus not bodily resurrected? 9:15-9:26 "He used the word egeiro which means that he raised… It's the word for waking up all through the New Testament. You find that word egeiro when Jesus was asleep in the boat. The disciples went and woke him up. No one thinks he resurrected from the bottom of a boat." In the boat, Jesus merely woke up from sleeping. Was he any different then - "spiritual" perhaps? No. Likewise, with the resurrection from his grave, Jesus merely woke up from being dead. So do why should he _then_ be any different. "egeiro" is perfectly applicable here. Luke uses it (7:14) when describing Jesus raising the widow's son from the dead - his body came alive. Mark uses it (5:41) when describing Jesus raising Jairus' daughter from the dead - and her body came alive as well. 9:46-9:49 "Remember the story of the Transfiguration when Jesus James and Peter went to see Jesus transfigured…" Yes, James and Peter witnessed the transfiguration of Jesus to his spiritual form. Now, if Jesus was already a spirit, there wasn't much to transfigure, was there?
I've actually come full circle in believing Jesus' bodily resurrection: first, I blindly accepted it in accordance with the usual religious indoctrination (which is the basis of faith). Then, I became a skeptic -- raising all the usual questions about the tomb, the witnesses, etc. (toying with the idea that perhaps Jesus survived the crucifixion or that he only appeared in visions after his death). Now, however, I have no problems in accepting the physical death and resurrection of Jesus. The reason? I've shifted to the mythicist view that Jesus did not even have a flesh-and-blood existence in hisotry, like Julius Caesar. On the contrary, he was a NON-historical person -- just like Moses: thus, the crucifixion and resurrection become historically true events in a perfectly VACUOUS sense.
Sometimes death is referred to as sleep! So It made since for them to say he rose from the dead, jesus told his disciples about lazarus he said I go to awake him out of SLEEP!! But lazarus was dead though.
Or, and vastly more probable to me, he never died on the cross. He was taken off the cross near death, woke up and beat feet outta there. Wouldn't that help explain his supposed after-death encounters?
UH.........don't you first have to prove that a spirit exists before you start babbling on about what you think it did or didn't do??? I mean, can I just start attributing things to a magical unicorn that I never prove exists, and you're just all good with the attibutions I make???
There is another explanation which merits deeper inquiry. That one says that Jesus/Yeshua was crucified, but he did not stay on the cross for an extended period. Many often hung on for days before dying. An interesting set of details: Jesus/Yeshua was given a drink while on the cross, he then appeared dead, the Romans did not break his legs to expedite the dying process, and his body was given over to a man named Joseph of Arimathea. This idea proposes that he did not die, but was in what we would call a coma-like state. He was resuscitated in the tomb and whisked into hiding. He then met with his disciples and even ate with them present showing his wounds. Joseph, or someone among the followers, arranged for him to be shuttled away to India where he had been as a teen and young adult. The other disciple were lead to believe he ascended into heaven and that he would come again in some apocalyptical return. The legend goes that he taught and acquired a following and that he lived to old age when he eventually died. Points to consider: there have been legends in that part of the world for centuries of a foreigner from the West who lived and taught love and compassion, among the stories of him were that he had unusual scarring on his feet which might be caused by a crucifixion event, and then there were Buddhist and Hindu monks who report meditating in location where he was alleged to have been and felt a mystical connection to him. Jesus/Yeshua was often referred to as Issa locally and later in Islam. The Ahmadi Muslims believe he did not die on the cross, but went to India. He is rumored to be buried in a tomb in Kashmir which also houses a Sufi (Islamic) saint, but I doubt any investigation has been done there. I set aside the claims of Notovitch as we cannot be certain of his motivations, but the fact that these stories have persisted for so long in that area of the world might merit deeper investigation.
@@oldpossum57 His impact around the world has been tremendous, whether all the stories about him are true, partially true, or even all legend. His actions spawned a religion which involves billions of people so it's hard to ignore it. Those followers have made decisions about life and existence here on planet Earth which have affected us all in one way or another. You could also make the same comments about any religious founder and if their influence died with them, we wouldn't be even discussing it. To use a secular example, it would be like saying: Why bother discussing Marxism? Marx wasn't that interesting. Yet, the impact merits discussions.
@@gregorysouthworth783 The indidual who might be behind the stories is not interesting. The dtipories are interesting, as stories. We can now study regions as natural phenomena. We can study aspects of stories as natural phenomena. The mistake of treating stories as real often has dreadful consequences. The election yesterday in the USA is one example.
@@oldpossum57 Yet, stories motivate people. That is a psychological fact. Yesterday's election proves my point. I may believe that those who bought into the narrative of a certain political leader is wrongheaded, but I cannot pretend it doesn't exist. I'm not saying all those ancient stories are legit. I am saying investigate, just as you would an ancient site anywhere in the world. Some stories are legends, but it is interesting that such things impact societies and the people in it even until today. A Muslim woman in Iran may see no objective reason to wear a hijab in public--she may not even really be a Muslim, but her decision to wear it or not will impact her regardless of her perspective. Study natural phenomena, of course, I'm not saying we shouldn't, but if we ignore anthropology and other factors which contribute to human civilizations, we ignore much of what has fashioned us as humans.
religion has one aim..to extend our lives forever ..a lifetime manufacturers warranty.....I am in, but is it true ? edit.no evidence so we would have to say very doubtful
any historical evidence of jesus dude ever existed ....??? are there any documents of him in the Roman (government) text of the time and place ?? I think modern christianity was fully developed in Europe in the medieval time ..
NATURAL SCIENCE PANTHEIST CREED We are part of nature which created us & after death we will be reabsorbed into nature. We are at home in nature & in our bodies. Earth is where we belong. Earth is the only place where we can find & make our paradise, not in some imaginary world on the other side of the grave. If nature is the only paradise, then separation from nature is the only hell. When we destroy nature, we create hell on earth for other species & for ourselves. Nature is our creator, our home, our security, our peace, our past & our future. We should treat natural things & habitats as sacred-to be revered & preserved in all their intricate & fragile beauty.
The gospel is the “good news” because it contains the exceedingly wonderful message of God’s redemption of sinful humanity through the death and resurrection of His Son, Jesus Christ. The gospel is the heart, the central core of Christian preaching. The English noun gospel comes from the Anglo-Saxon term godspell, meaning “glad tidings.” It is translated from the Greek evangelion, which means “good message.” Originally, the word was related to news of military triumph. But when the New Testament was recorded, its writers assigned the term gospel to the “good news” of salvation in Jesus Christ. The gospel encompasses the entire communication of redemption and salvation to humans as preached by Jesus Christ and His followers (Matthew 4:23; Romans 10:15). Later, the term gospel was also applied to the four historical records of Jesus Christ’s life written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. These four men are the original “evangelists,” or writers of the evangelion. The announcing of good news began with an angel heralding John the Baptist’s birth to his father, Zechariah: “I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God, and I have been sent to speak to you and to tell you this good news” (Luke 1:19). John the Baptist was the first to preach the gospel (Mark 1:1-4). After John baptized Jesus, God’s Spirit and anointing rested on the Lord “to bring Good News to the poor . . . to proclaim that captives will be released, that the blind will see, that the oppressed will be set free” (Luke 4:18, NLT) and to “proclaim the good news of God” (Mark 1:14). “The time has come,” Jesus began. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” (Mark 1:15). The gospel Jesus proclaimed focused on the arrival of God’s kingdom (Luke 10:9; 17:21). Through Christ’s coming to earth, God’s rule would be completed (Matthew 6:10), His righteousness established (Isaiah 9:7; 32:1), and His people glorified (Romans 8:17-18; Colossians 1:27). After Christ’s resurrection, the gospel was preached by those who had witnessed His life (Acts 5:42; 8:4-5, 35; Romans 1:1-4, 9), and today it continues to be preached throughout the world by His followers. The gospel is good news because in it we find God’s promise of forgiveness from sin. John testified that Jesus is “the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world!” (John 1:29; see also Luke 24:46-47; Isaiah 53:4-6; Acts 13:38; Hebrews 9:28). Through the gospel, we receive God’s power to live a new life in the righteousness of Jesus Christ: “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed-a righteousness that is by faith from first to last” (Romans 1:16-17; see also Romans 3:21-26). According to the gospel, sin separated us from God (Isaiah 59:2; Romans 3:23; Ephesians 4:18). But when Jesus died on the cross, He paid the price and canceled the debt of sin for all who would believe in Him. He was “pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him” (Isaiah 53:5; see also Colossians 1:20). The gospel is good news because, through faith in Jesus Christ, we are reconciled to God and brought near to Him in fellowship: “Since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us” (Romans 5:1, NLT). The gospel is good news because “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God” (John 1:12-13). Everyone who believes in the gospel and submits to its demands receives new life in Jesus Christ. We are adopted into God’s family (Romans 8:14-17; Galatians 3:26). We are “born of the Spirit” (John 3:5-8) and receive the “gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38; see also John 7:37-39), who guarantees our heavenly inheritance (Ephesians 1:13-14). The gospel is the greatest love story ever told (John 15:13). What could be more excellent news than its promise of eternal life in Jesus Christ?: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him” (John 3:16-17; see also John 11:25).
@@walter6574 No that is tradition, you may believe it or not. The point is when God is pleased with a prophet, a martyr or a witness, he lift them to him and they are alive now. Dan Barker is wrong when he compared his mother to Jesus.
@@munbruk Moses will be resurrected from the dead as our January. Moses was "gathered unto his people" (Num. 31.2), i.e., leaving the Sun, "he went and returned, and dwelt" with the Sun - he completed the circle of the zodiac, or year. Having thus looked upon the Promised Land (summer), Moses died and buried himself in a valley in the land of Moab (water-father = Aquarius = Moses), "but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day" (Deut. 34.6). Although one hundred and twenty years old, " his eyes," it is said, " were not dim (his stars shine as brightly now as they did then), nor his natural force abated (the rainy season still comes on every year) " However, the people wept thirty days, i.e., during the passage of the Sun through Aquarius, the Wash-pot (Ps 60.8), or the rainy month of January.
@@luthando13 Rev. 9.5, describes the scorpion (satan, father of lies) as the leader of the four winter signs of Sagittarius thru Pisces. These are the four biblical Eunuchs with Sagittarius being the leading Eunuch. The Eunuchs are the months without crop growth. Isaiah 9.14-15. describes Israel as having the head of Leo and tail of Scorpio.
@@harveywabbit9541those in the Christian cult seem to be the father of lies since they continually lie and spread their hate all for their make believe!
The peter thing was so weak!! Yes he lied 3 times but he was remorseful and was restored and became a powerful apostle!! Peter is absolutely reliable!!
Did Jesus really RISE from the dead, not ROSE. Get your tenses right. Are you a millennial that has not learned to spell or to differentiate between past, present and future tense?
The death of Christ was written of 1,000 years before the fact and the very words out of the high priest’s mouth….no man could predict that ….only God ….this guy here spends his days trying to say it’s all fake ….i say read Jeremiah 17:5-8…..
Maybe Jesus had an NDE experience, yes woke up & is what was meant, the shroud is also extraordinary so who can say, it’s entirely possible, yes many lies been told about the story… If Jesus went to Roman doors he be re arrested & put to death, again ….he’d leave… Why would Peter admit to anything, what point, knowing where that would lead ?
Pain-killing drugs cause NDEs. No heroin, no trip. The shroud is fake. The forger had a naked figure so he crossed the hands over its genitals. Lie down on the floor as if dead. Now try to cover your privates in that way. "yes many lies been told about the story… " I can't argue with that.
This man’s reasoning is so full of fallacies it’s hilarious. So basically he doesn’t believe because it took place at a time where there were no cameras even tho we have video footage of ufos today so that must be true🤦🏽♂️ Peter lied out of fear, to save his own life but you’re trying to say that after, Peter lied so he can be tortured and executed? That makes a lot of sense🤦🏽♂️ You’re just voicing your own personal opinion.
“He doesn’t believe because it took place at a time where there were no cameras”. Strawman. He doesn’t believe Jesus resurrected because he’s not convinced by the evidence or lack thereof. Obviously video evidence is not possible so we are left looking for other evidence, which is what? The book with the claims? What else?
@ He clearly stated his reasoning. Also, just because he’s not convinced it happened doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. In that case just say you’re not convinced instead of coming up with your own ideas, which he also has no evidence for.
@@sinclairj7492 nope. His reasoning was NOT that he doesn’t believe because there were no cameras. That what you said and its a strawman. Ironic given your accusations of logical fallacies.
@@sinclairj7492 Quote him directly. I heard the point in the video where he refers to video cameras and at no point does he say it’s the reason he doesn’t believe. He’s talking about what sorts of evidence we have and questioning the validity of it. The question of why not today is totally valid. I mean why can’t this god appear today and do anything? Video evidence would be good but it’s more a point of why is it that so much of what we have is personal testimony that cannot be corroborated by anything other than more of the same from other followers? And what do we have from antiquity? Just the stories in the bible and other sources referring to those stories. What else? The lack of video evidence is not the issue. It’s the lack of anything that would corroborate the stories and testimonies.
I don't know if I disagree with you, however, I would NEVER make such a statement. I think it's dangerous. If you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you will not be forgiven in this life AND the next. That's 2 lives. If you make such a statement like that, and you are wrong, and you teach others, my Father taught me that you could be having to deal with the fallout of that for a very very very long time. I would just say something like, "In my opinion... or I think... etc..." See what I mean? Much better way to do it. That being said, " Jesus Benstada was the first one crucified, I believe, and he had followers, and they were crucified according to my Father. So these guys appeared to keep popping up all over the place. Maybe this continued all the way down to Jesus of Nazareth... It's possible.
Sorry, guys. Dan doesn't disprove the resurrection with gibberish. We've heard these things in the past, but instead of trying to explain the resurrection away, what he should do is prove that evolution occurred. Because if he could do that, God disappears forever. But I prove that evolution is nothing but a fantasy, and that the Resurrection actually occurred in my book, Setting the Record Straight. Enjoy!
No, you do not prove anything about evolution, jimyjam. As the most robustly proven of all scientific theories, someone as ignorant as you couldn’t read a simple biology paper with understanding. You are a tiny cockerel standing on a tiny pile of manure. The world passed you by before you were born.
Imagina el nacimiento de Jesucristo. Imagina que eres un testigo en Belén, ¿cómo hubieses reaccionado?. Sumérgete en el evento, eres un actor en el escenario de la vida real. ¡Está pasando!, ¡el creador del universo nació de una virgen sin pecado concebida!, ¡eres testigo del mayor acontecimiento de todos los tiempos!, ¡el todopoderoso anunciado ha nacido y vive entre nosotros para redimirnos de nuestros pecados!. No te están engañando tus sentidos porque no tomastes drogas, estás presenciando realidad y tú eres una de las personas más afortunadas de la historia del universo. ¡Atención ahora!, del nacimiento de Jesucristo se ha escrito una página, más o menos, en la Biblia. De toda la vida de Jesucristo se han escrito unas pocas páginas en un libro. ¡Atento!, ¿hay algo que te parezca estraño?. ¿Y por eso vives de rodillas orando y haces que tus hijos inocentes y vulnerables vivan de rodillas orando?. La verdad que te ayuda a vivir feliz y salir del círculo es el ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es la idea religiosa del creador de la creación y concluye erróneamente el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. ¿Entendistes la falacia lógica atea? El ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es "papá celestial" y concluye erróneamente el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. Dios existe porque lógicamente es imposible la existencia de la creación o finitud sin el creador o infinitud. Lo que tiene un principio de existencia tiene una causa porque de la nada no puede ser creado algo. Lógicamente es imposible la existencia de un número infinito de causas, luego tiene que existir una primera causa eterna no causada que creó lo que tiene un principio de existencia. Para acabar la guerra el descubrimiento que el ateísmo es una falacia lógica tiene que ser noticia. Gracias.
@@mrshankerbillletmein491 Are you under the impression I'm required to explain the origin of life (or the universe) for me to see inconsistencies in the bible?
1 Timothy 4:1 In the last days, many will depart from the faith, giving heed to evil spirits and doctrines of devils... That's happening right now, what with all of the NDEs suddenly coming from people, claiming that Christ is not what the Bible says that he is...
Yeah, your holy book of fairytales is as false as the rest. You really should study the actual history of the bible. I know you won't, but you really should. Quite the eye opener...
The resurrection of Christ is one of the best eyewitness historical accounts the ancient world. To reject it would require a person to reject all the we know of the ancient world.
There is not a shred of evidence for this supernatural event whatsoever! ALL we have is Paul CLAIMING that 500 people witnesses the resurrection! Without mentioning who they were and when it did happen! Moreover, he wrote this story TWENTY years AFTER Jesus is supposed to have died. We don't even know who wrote the story! Two centuries later they gave this anonymous writer the name Paul according the Church tradition! It is even mentioned in the bible itself that the author is anonymous! And if Jesus is supposed to have BODILY resurrected then where is his body gone? In space? Then I suppose that Jesus is still alive and lives somewhere on a planet in a far galaxy. So let's call Jesus back and let him perform all his so-called "miracles" in a lab under scientifically controled circumstances! That would settle the argument forever!
@@jonathansmiddy7224 before you give me a couple of examples of the contradictions you claim can you please give me a definition of what contradiction means?
@Justas399 con·tra·dic·tion noun a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another. "the proposed new system suffers from a set of internal contradictions"
I follow a lot of the popular atheists (Dawkins, Hitchens, Dennet, Harris, etc) and I have to say Barker is fantastic when it comes to debunking this nonsense. He speaks so fluently and to the point. He knows his stuff.
Very plausible❤
Barker is the Best!
Thank you for putting up Dan Barker's entire speech. I've heard him quoted out of context. This is the clearest, most concise summary of his arguments. Brilliant.
Dan Barker is the very best speaker when it comes to exposing the evil insanity, of Judeo-Christian-Islamic beliefs.
My heart broke so bad when I found out that the God I've been worshipping was a deity from ancient tribal mythology. 😭
The Sun is forever.
Indeed. The months where I struggled to reconcile the problems in my belief -- finally ending in my admitting it was all bunk -- were the worst of my life. But, in the end, I believe it was worth it.
And from where did you derive this conclusion?
@@theheavenless for myself, I just became aware that everything was even more mysterious and “magical” than I had previously imagined, and that it was nothing to do with a bunch of old guys making up rules 🙏🏼
Where did you think your god came from? Reality?
It still amazes me that I had this figured out before I was eight years old and grown people still believe in this nonsense. We need more of these channels. Good job.
Jacob aka night (Nyx/Nox), wrestles with the dawn (Eos/Aurora) and dawn always wins.
On a yearly basis, the wrestling match begins at he autumn equinox/evening and is concluded at the spring equinox/morning.
I was 12 and singing in the choir when I came to my senses.
@@mikebartoli4755I can't really see where they've said they believe everything else in the bible.
@@mikebartoli4755 Seems like you’re the ignorant one. That’s not what I said at all.
If you’re gonna be a Christian troll, at least try to be smart. I know that’s a stretch.
It took me 40 years to realize that it is all a fairytale.
Better late than never. Glad you finally woke up to the REAL world. 😃💪
At least you got out.
I find more bs in Christianity than in Buddhism.
Whoop whoop
That's what they do to you, get them young, stunt their growth
In ancient times, there was no unemployment insurance. No retirement fund. If you were an old, tired man, you had to come up with a hustle, and fast! Everybody knew about the "Sacred Knowledge" that was circulating all over the Empire. Old men called "Wandering Holy Men" were in every corner of the Mediterranean. Every town had a resident Wandering Preacher, who carried scrolls under his arms. Such men were in great demand. The wealthy loved to invite them into their parlors, so they could watch and hear their wild stories, about demons, and angels, and mighty heroes who fought for "Salvation". They often sang, and danced around, while reading their poems. A crippled old man could make a decent living at it! By the time the 4th Century rolled around, hundreds of "Gospels" had accumulated within the Empire. It was time somebody collected them, and tried to make coherent sense of them. Constantine ordered a "cannon" be put together. About 80% of these fables were discarded, or destroyed. The "Holy Trinity" had to be quickly invented, so as to prevent "Christians" from being accused of Blasphemy. In no time, we had a new religion centered around a "Man-God" who violated the First Commandment. But the Jews immediately condemned it all. They had strict control over their "Holy Scrolls". And so you see in all the process, lots of old men got room and board, and we got our "Holy Christ Savior"!
Saying a man died and stayed dead is not a special claim, it happens every day. Saying a man rose again after a day and a half takes a lot more than a few anonymous authors writing decades later to be believed.
Losing a beloved friend and teacher is very difficult to accept when you can create an alternative reality in which that person is still with you in your mind. The best way to bring back that person is to write great inspiring stories full of wisdom and miracles.
Humans wrote all the tales of "MIracles", and "Wisdom". Humans wrote all the "Holy Books", and invented all the "Prophets", and "Gods"; and then the "Christians" accuse us of being evil!
We all have our own journey we must go on spiritually and I respect everybody’s journey just don’t drag me along if I don’t wish to come
It is sad that in the 21st century, there are billions of people who still cling to this fantasy and fairytale, to paraphrase the magnificent Stephen Hawking …”There are no miracles or exceptions to the laws of Nature.” One could also apply this to every single so called “miracles” expressed in the old ancient book written in the Bronze Age by Sheepherders.
I would love to believe in a god, but after giving it some thought I realize it's a beautiful man-made story too good to be true, amen😢
4th grade. 10 yrs old. When I reached the age of reason.
If you spread a rumor in school in the morning. That rumor will become a totally different rumor at the end of the school.
Same here
It astounds me that reasoned rational people today still believe such silly stories.
Unfortunately it's baked into our upbringing. I've loved Math & Science since at least 2010, yet in those very years I was a young earth creationist. I nearly became an atheist in 2016, having finally understood evolution well enough to see that it was in fact superior to creationism, and not just on par with it (having even earlier believed it to be inferior). What happened then? I slipped back into religion. Though my world view was shattered, I guess my desperation to retain some semblance of my former world model grasped at anything it could, and soon I could counter my teachers 'rational claims' about the limitations of Christianity with faith healings I'd supposedly witnessed performed through it, and then I finally had the simplest ideas of capitalism explained to me, and flipped from an anti-capitalist (about 4 months old as one) to effectively an anarcho-capitalist, where the free market, unburdened by any form of regulation or bureaucracy was the way to go, and off I went with the Right for a good few years before eventually growing disillusioned when I started to see them doing a lot of what they were accusing the Left of. Yet still, despite thinking myself a centrist, and since 2016 bouncing between christian and agnostic, I retained what I would now call a Right wing attitude / world view, just being wary of conspiracy theories and wild / emotional claims. No matter how many Atheist videos I enjoyed, I would still bounce back Christian, and it wasn't because I was taking it lightly, I loved the thrill of having my beliefs challenged, it's just that overwhelming evidence did not quite equate to certainty in my mind, so while I'd see problems with the Christian idea, I didn't come across any 'gaping holes' that rendered it impossible, and from that little speck of possibility would crawl back my faith. Then I finally saw Genetically Modified Skeptic's video "The Realization that Shattered my Faith"
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, and in it he also covered the origins and evolution of the idea of hell, which helped. In it he covered this concept of a "Thought Trap", a flawed method of thinking that circumvents rational thinking and helps a belief reproduce. This idea struck home, as I found I had been guilty of it. A few more videos on academic research into biblical texts, and I realized, despite these people actually putting together the evidence with which to assess the bible, they and their credible work don't so much as get acknowledged by any pastor or church leader, they are treated as though they don't exist. In place of their concrete, well researched work, gets preached what simply amounts to the pastor or church leader's personal musings on what the bible must mean, starting with the assumption that it's all valid, as opposed to the complex landscape that those who've actually assessed it show. As of November, 2023, I finally became an Atheist, and simultaneously as I was losing faith I was also assessing the views of the Left, why they believed what they believed, and found little wrong with it on re-analysis, as opposed to all the horse shit conspiracy theories the right has been running with since at least Covid. The Right's strength is the simplicity of the ideas it preaches, but they oversimplify things to make it work, the picture is a lot messier than they'd like it to be. Maybe that's why they've been dialing up the crazy, to cover the details that don't add up.
@@polarisraven5613 All I have to say to Christians about "Christianity" is.. "What was "God" doing before he decided he'd send us his son ? I have yet to hear an explanation that makes sense.
@@polarisraven5613 How many religions are there in the world? They can't all be right. They're all ridiculous in some form or another.
People who believe this stuff are, in fact, not reasoned rational people.
What? Somebody didn’t rise from the dead? Never!
Pecker.often rises from the dead.
As a video gamer, I can say that I personally have resurrected thousands of times. Good as new every time.
@ Good as new, and as geeky as ever.
👍👍👍
The Harry Potter books are a way more entertaining work of fiction than the bible, and a lot more believable
Cool castle too
And it’s most likely easier getting to Hogwarts than heaven 😁
I would have to believe that I am guilty of breaking divine laws, just in order to buy into the Jesus Christ claims. I have no reason to believe that divine laws exist, just as I have no reason to believe that heaven and hell exist. As far as I am concerned, the Jesus Christ claims have no merit. Religious people can shout "sinner" at me as much as they like, but that will have no impact at all. Sin assertions only have merit if you buy into the biblical claims. To anyone outside of Christianity, shouting "sinner" sounds bonkers.
5:23-5:46 "When the women came back from the tomb, the disciples said their their stories seem to us like idle tales. … If Thomas didn't believe why should I believe?"
Because, of course, it is an incredible tale. The disciples including Thomas certainly believed when Jesus appeared to them. Note that Thomas then touches the wounds on Jesus' body. Now how could he do that had Jesus not bodily resurrected?
9:15-9:26 "He used the word egeiro which means that he raised… It's the word for waking up all through the New Testament. You find that word egeiro when Jesus was asleep in the boat. The disciples went and woke him up. No one thinks he resurrected from the bottom of a boat."
In the boat, Jesus merely woke up from sleeping. Was he any different then - "spiritual" perhaps? No. Likewise, with the resurrection from his grave, Jesus merely woke up from being dead. So do why should he _then_ be any different.
"egeiro" is perfectly applicable here. Luke uses it (7:14) when describing Jesus raising the widow's son from the dead - his body came alive. Mark uses it (5:41) when describing Jesus raising Jairus' daughter from the dead - and her body came alive as well.
9:46-9:49 "Remember the story of the Transfiguration when Jesus James and Peter went to see Jesus transfigured…"
Yes, James and Peter witnessed the transfiguration of Jesus to his spiritual form. Now, if Jesus was already a spirit, there wasn't much to transfigure, was there?
What's with the music? Distracting.
The Bible is basically just a Story Book and should be treated as such. Jesus said he would return. I'm still waiting
He will come.. if he came a million years from now doesn't change anything! He will return! And that's all that matters
I've actually come full circle in believing Jesus' bodily resurrection: first, I blindly accepted it in accordance with the usual religious indoctrination (which is the basis of faith). Then, I became a skeptic -- raising all the usual questions about the tomb, the witnesses, etc. (toying with the idea that perhaps Jesus survived the crucifixion or that he only appeared in visions after his death). Now, however, I have no problems in accepting the physical death and resurrection of Jesus. The reason? I've shifted to the mythicist view that Jesus did not even have a flesh-and-blood existence in hisotry, like Julius Caesar. On the contrary, he was a NON-historical person -- just like Moses: thus, the crucifixion and resurrection become historically true events in a perfectly VACUOUS sense.
God was originally a woman. ♀️
Until she changed her mind!!
And
The Second Coming is when God comes back as a woman to fix the Mess Men have made.
Sometimes death is referred to as sleep! So It made since for them to say he rose from the dead, jesus told his disciples about lazarus he said I go to awake him out of SLEEP!! But lazarus was dead though.
Here come the apologists!
OR. “You just don’t understand”.
@@Smooshes786 The biggest difference between atheists and believers is atheists are not gullible. We require evidence.
@@Smooshes786" You're taking it out of context"
Or. "If you not looking for God, he won't give you evidence!"
@jhonvoyage2564 but at the same time he reveals himself to people when they least expect it
Damn straight he didn't even exist. Why did no one encounter him he was supposed to live. Not one soul Not one.
Not a big surprise. Second law of thermodynamics applied in the 1st century CE just as much today.
Or, and vastly more probable to me, he never died on the cross. He was taken off the cross near death, woke up and beat feet outta there. Wouldn't that help explain his supposed after-death encounters?
Only your view.
This is how bad it is. The broadcasts from smug Frank Turek have banned me from his chat room
UH.........don't you first have to prove that a spirit exists before you start babbling on about what you think it did or didn't do??? I mean, can I just start attributing things to a magical unicorn that I never prove exists, and you're just all good with the attibutions I make???
There is another explanation which merits deeper inquiry. That one says that Jesus/Yeshua was crucified, but he did not stay on the cross for an extended period. Many often hung on for days before dying. An interesting set of details: Jesus/Yeshua was given a drink while on the cross, he then appeared dead, the Romans did not break his legs to expedite the dying process, and his body was given over to a man named Joseph of Arimathea. This idea proposes that he did not die, but was in what we would call a coma-like state. He was resuscitated in the tomb and whisked into hiding. He then met with his disciples and even ate with them present showing his wounds. Joseph, or someone among the followers, arranged for him to be shuttled away to India where he had been as a teen and young adult. The other disciple were lead to believe he ascended into heaven and that he would come again in some apocalyptical return. The legend goes that he taught and acquired a following and that he lived to old age when he eventually died. Points to consider: there have been legends in that part of the world for centuries of a foreigner from the West who lived and taught love and compassion, among the stories of him were that he had unusual scarring on his feet which might be caused by a crucifixion event, and then there were Buddhist and Hindu monks who report meditating in location where he was alleged to have been and felt a mystical connection to him. Jesus/Yeshua was often referred to as Issa locally and later in Islam. The Ahmadi Muslims believe he did not die on the cross, but went to India. He is rumored to be buried in a tomb in Kashmir which also houses a Sufi (Islamic) saint, but I doubt any investigation has been done there. I set aside the claims of Notovitch as we cannot be certain of his motivations, but the fact that these stories have persisted for so long in that area of the world might merit deeper investigation.
Why bother? He is not that interesting. Physics is interesting.
@@oldpossum57 His impact around the world has been tremendous, whether all the stories about him are true, partially true, or even all legend. His actions spawned a religion which involves billions of people so it's hard to ignore it. Those followers have made decisions about life and existence here on planet Earth which have affected us all in one way or another. You could also make the same comments about any religious founder and if their influence died with them, we wouldn't be even discussing it. To use a secular example, it would be like saying: Why bother discussing Marxism? Marx wasn't that interesting. Yet, the impact merits discussions.
@@gregorysouthworth783 The indidual who might be behind the stories is not interesting. The dtipories are interesting, as stories. We can now study regions as natural phenomena. We can study aspects of stories as natural phenomena.
The mistake of treating stories as real often has dreadful consequences. The election yesterday in the USA is one example.
@@oldpossum57 Yet, stories motivate people. That is a psychological fact. Yesterday's election proves my point. I may believe that those who bought into the narrative of a certain political leader is wrongheaded, but I cannot pretend it doesn't exist. I'm not saying all those ancient stories are legit. I am saying investigate, just as you would an ancient site anywhere in the world. Some stories are legends, but it is interesting that such things impact societies and the people in it even until today. A Muslim woman in Iran may see no objective reason to wear a hijab in public--she may not even really be a Muslim, but her decision to wear it or not will impact her regardless of her perspective. Study natural phenomena, of course, I'm not saying we shouldn't, but if we ignore anthropology and other factors which contribute to human civilizations, we ignore much of what has fashioned us as humans.
I wish Jordon Peterson could admit this didn't happen.
yet he recanted just before his passing & re-embraced his faith Hmmm
LIAR - for jesus, of course.
Neither did Dracula
How else can someone rise from the dead.
The Shroud of Turin suggests otherwise.
Oh, please. That piece of medieval linen? Pfft
Sorry but it has be carbon dated to the 15th century
Ok lets stir other things up a bit! Was Mary really a virgin?
Of course she was, but only before she got pregnant.
Isaiah said that she wasn't a virgin.
@@cityonthelakes Isaiah didn't say ANYTHING about Joseph's Mary. She lived hundreds of years after he died. He never knew her.
I know one better, why do males have nipples?
@@roadtoreason3368 That’s what he claims. But I have photos of them together at the motel.
There's no Jesus the god-son to begin with.
The son of god is a bacterization of sun god that pagans celebrated at the winter solstice.
"Jesus" even violates their own First Commandment!
Rise from the dead - not rose from the dead.
He rose from the dead yesterday morning and he will rise from the dead this morning. On easter sun rise, the priest will say he is risen.
religion has one aim..to extend our lives forever ..a lifetime manufacturers warranty.....I am in, but is it true ? edit.no evidence so we would have to say very doubtful
any historical evidence of jesus dude ever existed ....??? are there any documents of him in the Roman (government) text of the time and place ?? I think modern christianity was fully developed in Europe in the medieval time ..
I find it hard to believe in fairy tales, be it the brothers Grimm, Aesop, or the bible. It seems without proof, speculation.
Just by title with my yrs of research I say duh to title. It's a fairytale. If real, how's that working for us? NOT!!
Yup God is mankind's greatest invention. 😮😮 it gives him some sense of purpose where there isn't any. 😮😮😮
Jesus is sloppy.
NATURAL SCIENCE PANTHEIST CREED
We are part of nature which created us & after death we will be reabsorbed into nature. We are at home in nature & in our bodies. Earth is where we belong. Earth is the only place where we can find & make our paradise, not in some imaginary world on the other side of the grave. If nature is the only paradise, then separation from nature is the only hell. When we destroy nature, we create hell on earth for other species & for ourselves. Nature is our creator, our home, our security, our peace, our past & our future. We should treat natural things & habitats as sacred-to be revered & preserved in all their intricate & fragile beauty.
The gospel is the “good news” because it contains the exceedingly wonderful message of God’s redemption of sinful humanity through the death and resurrection of His Son, Jesus Christ. The gospel is the heart, the central core of Christian preaching.
The English noun gospel comes from the Anglo-Saxon term godspell, meaning “glad tidings.” It is translated from the Greek evangelion, which means “good message.” Originally, the word was related to news of military triumph. But when the New Testament was recorded, its writers assigned the term gospel to the “good news” of salvation in Jesus Christ.
The gospel encompasses the entire communication of redemption and salvation to humans as preached by Jesus Christ and His followers (Matthew 4:23; Romans 10:15). Later, the term gospel was also applied to the four historical records of Jesus Christ’s life written by Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. These four men are the original “evangelists,” or writers of the evangelion.
The announcing of good news began with an angel heralding John the Baptist’s birth to his father, Zechariah: “I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God, and I have been sent to speak to you and to tell you this good news” (Luke 1:19). John the Baptist was the first to preach the gospel (Mark 1:1-4). After John baptized Jesus, God’s Spirit and anointing rested on the Lord “to bring Good News to the poor . . . to proclaim that captives will be released, that the blind will see, that the oppressed will be set free” (Luke 4:18, NLT) and to “proclaim the good news of God” (Mark 1:14).
“The time has come,” Jesus began. “The kingdom of God has come near. Repent and believe the good news!” (Mark 1:15). The gospel Jesus proclaimed focused on the arrival of God’s kingdom (Luke 10:9; 17:21). Through Christ’s coming to earth, God’s rule would be completed (Matthew 6:10), His righteousness established (Isaiah 9:7; 32:1), and His people glorified (Romans 8:17-18; Colossians 1:27). After Christ’s resurrection, the gospel was preached by those who had witnessed His life (Acts 5:42; 8:4-5, 35; Romans 1:1-4, 9), and today it continues to be preached throughout the world by His followers.
The gospel is good news because in it we find God’s promise of forgiveness from sin. John testified that Jesus is “the Lamb of God, who takes away the sins of the world!” (John 1:29; see also Luke 24:46-47; Isaiah 53:4-6; Acts 13:38; Hebrews 9:28). Through the gospel, we receive God’s power to live a new life in the righteousness of Jesus Christ: “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed-a righteousness that is by faith from first to last” (Romans 1:16-17; see also Romans 3:21-26).
According to the gospel, sin separated us from God (Isaiah 59:2; Romans 3:23; Ephesians 4:18). But when Jesus died on the cross, He paid the price and canceled the debt of sin for all who would believe in Him. He was “pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him” (Isaiah 53:5; see also Colossians 1:20). The gospel is good news because, through faith in Jesus Christ, we are reconciled to God and brought near to Him in fellowship: “Since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us” (Romans 5:1, NLT).
The gospel is good news because “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God-children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God” (John 1:12-13). Everyone who believes in the gospel and submits to its demands receives new life in Jesus Christ. We are adopted into God’s family (Romans 8:14-17; Galatians 3:26). We are “born of the Spirit” (John 3:5-8) and receive the “gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38; see also John 7:37-39), who guarantees our heavenly inheritance (Ephesians 1:13-14).
The gospel is the greatest love story ever told (John 15:13). What could be more excellent news than its promise of eternal life in Jesus Christ?: “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him” (John 3:16-17; see also John 11:25).
Boogie Boogie, doggie raise.
and how did people talk to jesus and spend time with him... plus over whelming eye witness accounts...
Maybe they didn’t talk to him or see him.
These are merely claims by the authors. They cannot be taken as facts unless they are corroborated by external sources.
Who told you people talked to him ?
You have eye witness accounts ?
Exactly that is the islamic point of view. No need for body resurrection then eating fish then flying like a bird. to the space.
The Islamic point is Muhammed ascended into heaven on a winged horse.
@@walter6574 No that is tradition, you may believe it or not. The point is when God is pleased with a prophet, a martyr or a witness, he lift them to him and they are alive now. Dan Barker is wrong when he compared his mother to Jesus.
@@walter6574
Pegasus.
@@harveywabbit9541 we are talking about the resurrection.
@@munbruk
Moses will be resurrected from the dead as our January.
Moses was "gathered unto his people" (Num. 31.2), i.e., leaving the Sun, "he went and returned, and dwelt" with the Sun - he completed the circle of the zodiac, or year. Having thus looked upon the Promised Land (summer), Moses died and buried himself in a valley in the land of Moab (water-father = Aquarius = Moses), "but no man knoweth of his sepulcher unto this day" (Deut. 34.6). Although one hundred and twenty years old, " his eyes," it is said, " were not dim (his stars shine as brightly now as they did then), nor his natural force abated (the rainy season still comes on every year) " However, the people wept thirty days, i.e., during the passage of the Sun through Aquarius, the Wash-pot (Ps 60.8), or the rainy month of January.
He rises, from the dead, every morning.
Most Christians won't understand that!@😂😂😂
@@luthando13
Rev. 9.5, describes the scorpion (satan, father of lies) as the leader of the four winter signs of Sagittarius thru Pisces. These are the four biblical Eunuchs with Sagittarius being the leading Eunuch. The Eunuchs are the months without crop growth.
Isaiah 9.14-15. describes Israel as having the head of Leo and tail of Scorpio.
With his crown of thorns, or sun rays
@@harveywabbit9541those in the Christian cult seem to be the father of lies since they continually lie and spread their hate all for their make believe!
The peter thing was so weak!! Yes he lied 3 times but he was remorseful and was restored and became a powerful apostle!! Peter is absolutely reliable!!
Did Jesus really RISE from the dead, not ROSE. Get your tenses right. Are you a millennial that has not learned to spell or to differentiate between past, present and future tense?
Some young virgin got pregnant, all by herself 🤣 Yeah, sure. I've been a life-long atheist for over 60 years #ReligionIsFiction
Not all by herself. A deity was involved. It happened a lot in ancient times.
The death of Christ was written of 1,000 years before the fact and the very words out of the high priest’s mouth….no man could predict that ….only God ….this guy here spends his days trying to say it’s all fake ….i say read Jeremiah 17:5-8…..
Remarkably bad scholarship.
Maybe Jesus had an NDE experience, yes woke up & is what was meant, the shroud is also extraordinary so who can say, it’s entirely possible, yes many lies been told about the story…
If Jesus went to Roman doors he be
re arrested & put to death, again ….he’d leave…
Why would Peter admit to anything, what point, knowing where that would lead ?
Pain-killing drugs cause NDEs. No heroin, no trip.
The shroud is fake. The forger had a naked figure so he crossed the hands over its genitals.
Lie down on the floor as if dead. Now try to cover your privates in that way.
"yes many lies been told about the story… "
I can't argue with that.
Jesus, his birth death and resurrection has saved us from certain hell all glory to God the father
What did God the father do to deserve it
Who made hell? Who made satan?
How did Jesus's death and resurrection save us from hell if we haven't died yet and if I could still go to hell, what did he actually save?
Gibberish.
dumb.... if there is no resurrection.... then no one can be saved....
Dumb is thinking people who don’t believe in the resurrection would care about being “saved”
Saved from what ?
This man’s reasoning is so full of fallacies it’s hilarious. So basically he doesn’t believe because it took place at a time where there were no cameras even tho we have video footage of ufos today so that must be true🤦🏽♂️
Peter lied out of fear, to save his own life but you’re trying to say that after, Peter lied so he can be tortured and executed? That makes a lot of sense🤦🏽♂️ You’re just voicing your own personal opinion.
“He doesn’t believe because it took place at a time where there were no cameras”. Strawman. He doesn’t believe Jesus resurrected because he’s not convinced by the evidence or lack thereof. Obviously video evidence is not possible so we are left looking for other evidence, which is what? The book with the claims? What else?
@ He clearly stated his reasoning. Also, just because he’s not convinced it happened doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. In that case just say you’re not convinced instead of coming up with your own ideas, which he also has no evidence for.
@@sinclairj7492 nope. His reasoning was NOT that he doesn’t believe because there were no cameras. That what you said and its a strawman. Ironic given your accusations of logical fallacies.
@ No he definitely said that followed up by, why couldn’t it have happened today. Watch the video again, it’s full of fallacies.
@@sinclairj7492 Quote him directly. I heard the point in the video where he refers to video cameras and at no point does he say it’s the reason he doesn’t believe. He’s talking about what sorts of evidence we have and questioning the validity of it. The question of why not today is totally valid. I mean why can’t this god appear today and do anything? Video evidence would be good but it’s more a point of why is it that so much of what we have is personal testimony that cannot be corroborated by anything other than more of the same from other followers? And what do we have from antiquity? Just the stories in the bible and other sources referring to those stories. What else? The lack of video evidence is not the issue. It’s the lack of anything that would corroborate the stories and testimonies.
I don't know if I disagree with you, however, I would NEVER make such a statement. I think it's dangerous. If you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you will not be forgiven in this life AND the next. That's 2 lives. If you make such a statement like that, and you are wrong, and you teach others, my Father taught me that you could be having to deal with the fallout of that for a very very very long time. I would just say something like, "In my opinion... or I think... etc..." See what I mean? Much better way to do it. That being said, " Jesus Benstada was the first one crucified, I believe, and he had followers, and they were crucified according to my Father. So these guys appeared to keep popping up all over the place. Maybe this continued all the way down to Jesus of Nazareth... It's possible.
Are you ..trying to trick an all powerful god ?
Gibberish.
Sorry, guys. Dan doesn't disprove the resurrection with gibberish. We've heard these things in the past, but instead of trying to explain the resurrection away, what he should do is prove that evolution occurred. Because if he could do that, God disappears forever. But I prove that evolution is nothing but a fantasy, and that the Resurrection actually occurred in my book, Setting the Record Straight. Enjoy!
No, you do not prove anything about evolution, jimyjam. As the most robustly proven of all scientific theories, someone as ignorant as you couldn’t read a simple biology paper with understanding. You are a tiny cockerel standing on a tiny pile of manure. The world passed you by before you were born.
Imagina el nacimiento de Jesucristo. Imagina que eres un testigo en Belén, ¿cómo hubieses reaccionado?. Sumérgete en el evento, eres un actor en el escenario de la vida real. ¡Está pasando!, ¡el creador del universo nació de una virgen sin pecado concebida!, ¡eres testigo del mayor acontecimiento de todos los tiempos!, ¡el todopoderoso anunciado ha nacido y vive entre nosotros para redimirnos de nuestros pecados!. No te están engañando tus sentidos porque no tomastes drogas, estás presenciando realidad y tú eres una de las personas más afortunadas de la historia del universo. ¡Atención ahora!, del nacimiento de Jesucristo se ha escrito una página, más o menos, en la Biblia. De toda la vida de Jesucristo se han escrito unas pocas páginas en un libro. ¡Atento!, ¿hay algo que te parezca estraño?. ¿Y por eso vives de rodillas orando y haces que tus hijos inocentes y vulnerables vivan de rodillas orando?. La verdad que te ayuda a vivir feliz y salir del círculo es el ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es la idea religiosa del creador de la creación y concluye erróneamente el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. ¿Entendistes la falacia lógica atea? El ateísmo es una falacia lógica que asume Dios es "papá celestial" y concluye erróneamente el creador no existe porque una idea particular de Dios no existe. Dios existe porque lógicamente es imposible la existencia de la creación o finitud sin el creador o infinitud. Lo que tiene un principio de existencia tiene una causa porque de la nada no puede ser creado algo. Lógicamente es imposible la existencia de un número infinito de causas, luego tiene que existir una primera causa eterna no causada que creó lo que tiene un principio de existencia. Para acabar la guerra el descubrimiento que el ateísmo es una falacia lógica tiene que ser noticia. Gracias.
😂 always cute to see adults defending fairy tales
We don’t speak Spanish
He ate a meal of bread and fish and said it is I not a ghost Thomas touched His wound.
Bread = Virgo and Fish = Pisces.
Funny how people believe this stuff literally, yet can't explain how the penguins and kangaroos made it all the way to Noah's Ark.
@@castleanthrax1833 There are things both you and I cant explain what does that show. Can you explain the origin of life and the universe?
@@mrshankerbillletmein491
Are you under the impression I'm required to explain the origin of life (or the universe) for me to see inconsistencies in the bible?
@@castleanthrax1833 Just saying there are things we both cant explain
1 Timothy 4:1 In the last days, many will depart from the faith, giving heed to evil spirits and doctrines of devils... That's happening right now, what with all of the NDEs suddenly coming from people, claiming that Christ is not what the Bible says that he is...
Yeah, your holy book of fairytales is as false as the rest. You really should study the actual history of the bible. I know you won't, but you really should. Quite the eye opener...
Well, Christian cultists have to continually lie for their make believe!
Do you also bleat in your sleep or only while awake.
The resurrection of Christ is one of the best eyewitness historical accounts the ancient world. To reject it would require a person to reject all the we know of the ancient world.
There were eyewitnesses accounts of him raising from the dead?? That’s a lie. Stop spreading misinformation
There is not a shred of evidence for this supernatural event whatsoever! ALL we have is Paul CLAIMING that 500 people witnesses the resurrection! Without mentioning who they were and when it did happen! Moreover, he wrote this story TWENTY years AFTER Jesus is supposed to have died. We don't even know who wrote the story! Two centuries later they gave this anonymous writer the name Paul according the Church tradition! It is even mentioned in the bible itself that the author is anonymous! And if Jesus is supposed to have BODILY resurrected then where is his body gone? In space? Then I suppose that Jesus is still alive and lives somewhere on a planet in a far galaxy. So let's call Jesus back and let him perform all his so-called "miracles" in a lab under scientifically controled circumstances! That would settle the argument forever!
The Gospel accounts at the tomb contradict each other thus making them unreliable. Have you read them? Didn't you notice the differences?
@@jonathansmiddy7224 before you give me a couple of examples of the contradictions you claim can you please give me a definition of what contradiction means?
@Justas399
con·tra·dic·tion
noun
a combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are opposed to one another.
"the proposed new system suffers from a set of internal contradictions"
An empty tomb is exactly as much evidence for a resurrected god as an empty stable is evidence for a flying Pegasus.
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