Is that a 'baptism by blunder', and henceforth the instigator of Gothic Classic Who shall be known as Phillip no longer and will be Tom Hincliffe, and a call went out for a clean up on console room floor two, as even though there wasn't a font, the fault locator would have blown a bulb, repeatedly flashing on and off everytime the image of the secondary console room was flipped when it was discussed and held up when a comparison with previous control rooms were made.
I was about to add a comment to that effect as well, about the wood warping due to poor storage, before I saw yours. I always felt this a real tragedy of Dr Who, because I really loved the cosy, old-timey feel of the secondary console room!
I think you might be referring to the enterprise A bridge set before filming on star trek the undiscovered country began the set was placed outside and was damaged beyond repairing a freak rain storm
The secondary console room was never damaged or warped. In fact the walls where repainted and used as corridor walls until 1983 and the scanner unit repainted and used in the season 15 console room onwards
The 4th Doctor era console prop was the same one as used by the 3rd Doctor - the panel layout was just revamped for it's appearances in Season 13. So calling it the third prop is inaccurate - it's still the second prop but with a significant amount of control alterations and a few changes to the rotor. *I apologise for the "umm, actually" nature of this comment, I just thought that's worth noting - good video regardless.*
It's kind of funny - TARDIS Builders has this information but another popular source, themindrobber's console history page, still says it's new- so you can probably tell where someone did their research depending on whether they say it's a new prop. (I'm sure the TARDIS Builders consensus is correct, having made a virtual model myself the details all line up)
I was hoping for a whole video dedicated to the secondary console room and console. Guess there's not a lot more to say, but it's such a gorgeous design. ☺️
'Warped in storage' is (I believe) a fan made up myth or an excuse or reason widely accepted as truth. Almost all the scenery in the wooden secondary console room is re-used in the later console room as extenders to the side and outside the opening doors towards the Police Box exit (in suspended disbelief - they're not really there in studio). They were painted grey with grey roundels and in the corridors and scenes like in TERMINUS when Turlouggh opens a roundel and gets caught by Tegan. JNT told me that even the scanner flat was simply stripped of embellishments and recycled in grey. It was a directors/producers choice to reinstate the space age controls room. It doesn't mater if it was left in the rain. I know this from experience in exactly tris type of scenery. I have made a faithful reproduction of the later season 20 console room used in SHADA 2017 and it's bee rained on a lot, or driven from Cardiff to London in wet, rainy, leaky lorries, and vans even got quite damaged. However it still looks great with a touch up of filler & paint here and there. - when any panels HAVE warped or bowed.. it's easily fixed by placing strong dowels of timber on each perimeter edge. and even in the middle between roundels. I loved seeing this video. thank you for doing this! it's magic!
Fantastic video! This is the kind of stuff I wish they had on the DVDs and blu-ray sets!
I think you inadvertently call Philip Hinchcliffe “Tom Hincliffe” when talking about the secondary console…
Is that a 'baptism by blunder', and henceforth the instigator of Gothic Classic Who shall be known as Phillip no longer and will be Tom Hincliffe, and a call went out for a clean up on console room floor two, as even though there wasn't a font, the fault locator would have blown a bulb, repeatedly flashing on and off everytime the image of the secondary console room was flipped when it was discussed and held up when a comparison with previous control rooms were made.
This channel rocks. Always been fascinated by the PCB and the TARDIS, cannot wait to see what you do next!
Great tracking of all of the changes! Nice work. Really fun to see all of the hacks and story changes animated like this. 5:07
secondary control room will always be my favorite.
A sad footnote: the secondary control room disappeared in part because the panelling warped in storage.
I was about to add a comment to that effect as well, about the wood warping due to poor storage, before I saw yours. I always felt this a real tragedy of Dr Who, because I really loved the cosy, old-timey feel of the secondary console room!
Was it also left in the rain at one point? Or am I thinking of something else?
I think you might be referring to the enterprise A bridge set before filming on star trek the undiscovered country began the set was placed outside and was damaged beyond repairing a freak rain storm
@@Templar-w9j Hmmm, so I see. I guess my memory must've cheated in some way.
The secondary console room was never damaged or warped. In fact the walls where repainted and used as corridor walls until 1983 and the scanner unit repainted and used in the season 15 console room onwards
The 4th Doctor era console prop was the same one as used by the 3rd Doctor - the panel layout was just revamped for it's appearances in Season 13. So calling it the third prop is inaccurate - it's still the second prop but with a significant amount of control alterations and a few changes to the rotor.
*I apologise for the "umm, actually" nature of this comment, I just thought that's worth noting - good video regardless.*
It's kind of funny - TARDIS Builders has this information but another popular source, themindrobber's console history page, still says it's new- so you can probably tell where someone did their research depending on whether they say it's a new prop. (I'm sure the TARDIS Builders consensus is correct, having made a virtual model myself the details all line up)
I was hoping for a whole video dedicated to the secondary console room and console. Guess there's not a lot more to say, but it's such a gorgeous design. ☺️
It was so atmospheric and, for me as a kid, pretty mind-bending to discover that an alien spaceship could be decked out like that.
no mention of the changes to the time rotor that happened between state of decay and warriors gate?
How long have you been holding onto that one at 01:20 ? 😅
The horns of NYE-mon (Nimon) not N'Mon
I prefer yours. 😉
'Warped in storage' is (I believe) a fan made up myth or an excuse or reason widely accepted as truth. Almost all the scenery in the wooden secondary console room is re-used in the later console room as extenders to the side and outside the opening doors towards the Police Box exit (in suspended disbelief - they're not really there in studio). They were painted grey with grey roundels and in the corridors and scenes like in TERMINUS when Turlouggh opens a roundel and gets caught by Tegan. JNT told me that even the scanner flat was simply stripped of embellishments and recycled in grey. It was a directors/producers choice to reinstate the space age controls room. It doesn't mater if it was left in the rain. I know this from experience in exactly tris type of scenery. I have made a faithful reproduction of the later season 20 console room used in SHADA 2017 and it's bee rained on a lot, or driven from Cardiff to London in wet, rainy, leaky lorries, and vans even got quite damaged. However it still looks great with a touch up of filler & paint here and there. - when any panels HAVE warped or bowed.. it's easily fixed by placing strong dowels of timber on each perimeter edge. and even in the middle between roundels. I loved seeing this video. thank you for doing this! it's magic!
I admit that I like console ‘minimalism’ but these controls almost look _too_ simplistic to be functional . . .
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Would gladly do without that droning background sound. 👎