Agreed, it's such a stupid curveball. I can live with the light beams, you just need to get the timing down and direction of your dodges, but it's get so visually cluttered that I just end up making some mistake that just spirals out of control. I've even had Miquellas hair obstruct the whole view to the point where I didn't see anything at all.
@@AltAccount-dz8rpmost fans don't read patch notes. It's so annoying seeing people puff out their chest bc they beat the broken hitbox Radahn. Like congrats you got lucky with RNG.
I just wish they had even a slightly creative way to increase difficulty. It’s just such nonsense. I don’t play Fromsoft games to look at Korean MMO effects.
Only thing I hated in the entire dlc's boss fights. The only way I was able to dodge it was by reacting to this lights peed attack with a Right Blind Spot, or just react deflect the first slash... While radahn has so many attacks with a startup as fast as it. It's a mess of a move
I've seen one person consistently dodge it. You have to have light roll and be hugging his right leg. The instant the startup for the attack begins, you dodge in towards the back of his right leg and the second hit of the attack swings over your head, giving you enough time to dodge the third hit. It's still complete bs, though, because the positioning and timing are so tight.
Really not a fan of this bossfight. The first phase is basically perfect, was really fun, had well defined patterns that you can learn. The second phase is atrocious, your screen gets flashbanged every few seconds, and when it's not that, it's Miquellas luscious 3m long hair obscuring Radahn's attacks, making you unable to figure out what he's doing.
@@Omba6666 it took me 7 hours and it really is that bad. you cant see anything half the time because he'll start new combos when the previous beams of light are still going off or when his back is to you and Miquella's hair is in your face. So you often just die from something you could not see.
@@squall6439 one of the most absolutely unfairly balanced bosses in FROM history, which is entirely balanced around an arbitrary fetch-quest mechanic that is effectively required of you to do rather than relying on the actual game mechanics if you don't want to either get one shot, or have to take literally an hour to kill an end-game boss. "it was perfect" Miyazaki won't pay you any more mind if you thoughtlessly defend this absolute slop of a fight.
Quit fucking complaining, just learn instead of yapping your ass off the whole time, everything can be dodged or mostly avoided otherwise they wouldn’t add it.
reviewers died to it more but from a no hit perspective its actually stronger now. you used to be able to clean roll through the first two hits with one roll and now its a frame trap that is impossible to reliably dodge (reliably being the key word here)
yeah it really sucks being chipped down when he decides to do that. the only reliable play is to not be next to him when he does it, or block or deflect it.
Bruh I was playing on Xbox X and I never ever had any lag with this game until Radahn did his holy meteor attack and It literally went from 60 to 5 fps for a few seconds, the second time he did it i just chugged my flask that heals for damage taken and ate it all cuz It's impossible to dodge with such framerate.
I was wondering if console had the same issue and I thought it was just poor optimization on pc when i played. Glad to know console players have the same issues.
@@peevan I mean, heard that PC lags even with his normal laser beams, on console It's just the dive bomb which really nukes them, the rest is mostly fine
@@limurtempesto5867 i only had the nuke drop my fps to 30 in the fight everything else was fine. idk maybe other people have lower end computers, i cant confirm yet.
I think the damage numbers are a bit high during the second phase, but it's honestly nothing compared to the visual clutter that Miquella kindly provides, it made it SO difficult to even read what Radahn was doing, which didn't help given that I was already struggling to even make it to the second phase so I could barely learn his attacks. Still think the fight is good but man a lot of those 74 attempts were literally just trying to figure out what he was actually doing.
That multi hit teleport combo is awful man I legit cannot see As artificial of difficult as it Gets And shit on pc that big aoe attack just crashes frames lol
@@MeepFromSpongebob and it is random if truely hits you, if you're not in a certain degree, it doesn't hit you. At first i thought the clone were just fake due to this bug
The optimization is so piss poor on PC. With a good rig, I ended up lowering all of my settings to medium and my resolution to 1080p in hopes that the AOE would remain smooth, and the frame dips remained consistently as bad. I was getting around 25 FPS no matter what my settings were. Had a similar problem in the Ancient Ruins. No matter the settings, if I looked towards the god rays up there, my frames dipped to 40. Even tried this with DLSS on all settings.
It's just really disappointing how the first phase is pretty much a perfect masterpiece of a fight and then the second phase just becomes so obnoxious because you can't see anything
Yeah phase 1 took me a while to learn but genuinely felt good once I learned to dodge all the moves but phase 2 is pure RNG from my experience. I beat him but had to use a greatshield to absorb the damage and counter hit, it did not feel rewarding. I agree with the original comment I think phase 1 actually feels rewarding if you learn it with the exception of that broken 3 hit combo that ends with the cross, the hit stun is busted on it.
@nbomberguy44 Strafe left then dodge left forward, it'll miss, especially if you're light roll Tbh the strategy for radahn is to just be strafing left almost the entire fight. Some moves just straight up miss or makes it easier to dodge attacks
I didn't get spoiled because I heard that people were putting spoilers in thumbnails frame 1 after the embargo lifted, and stayed away from the suggestion feed until I cleared the dlc, but Scott, there's a reason why you have more people complaining about it in the comments than giving you props. Your video is about the last boss, and the thumbnail clearly shows a person with a large frame holding two swords. Only one character, much less boss, fits that bill
I knew going in Messmer wouldn't be the final boss. Mostly because if we look at previous FromSoft DLC, the ones that feature characters, those characters are never the final boss. Artorious for DS1 and Lady Marie for Bloodborne. Except with those DLCs, the final boss actually slapped. Here, we get all this build up for Miquella just to find out it was all for Rahdan 2: Electric Boogaloo.
@@user-nm1si5xk7o yeah even if I beat Radahn twice now I really really dislike this fight. You have all this freedom in the base game of Elden Ring to play and do what you want and many weapons shine in different ways but for the life of me I could not beat the second phase of this boss with anything but a cheese build I found. Like I can't even imagine playing a one weapon only run and trying to beat this monstrosity. I don't really even know what could be nerfed here since his 2nd phase is just outright bad, only good attacks are some beefed up from his 1st phase, everything else is either undodgeable or unavoidable completely bc of the stun
@@Miki-hk6vyI think the fight is just built for you to summon. You’re able to summon 2 npcs at the door. I know a ton of people are against it but the boss has so many sweeping moves and mobility undoubtedly because of this.
@@firelordwaffle2987 Summoning NPCs makes the fight even harder, bc it boosts Radahn's already enormous health pool by 80%/130%, and the summons just die 30 seconds into the second phase.
I still haven’t even beaten Radahn. This boss makes Malenia look like Pinwheel I swear. It’s not even the fun kind of difficult like Messmer, Rellana and Bayle were in this DLC, where sure they’re super hard but learning the moveset is awesome. I’ve been on him for two days now, while taking breaks between. Phase 1 is fine, I think the meteor attack and double slash attack are a bit weird to dodge but that’s a minor. I’ve legit no hit Phase 1 before at this point. Phase 2 is just not it, the boss barely gives you any windows to attack yourself while he does a zillion combos, so many attacks have lingering AoEs with all the stupid light pillars so you always get roll caught, and there’s SHIT ALL OVER THE SCREEN SO I CANT EVEN SEE WHAT HE’S DOING HALF THE TIME. I’ve fought this boss so many times and I still don’t have dodging the flippy attacks or the nukes down to a science it’s crazy. Malenia has like 1 super bullshit attack while Radahn’s out here with 10 hahaha
Keep at it, i managed to beat him with pure str build and greatsword after like 12 hours. One thing i would do is as the second phase start, I would use lions savage claw and stun him and by using vicious attack i wpuld basically avoid his nuke. If not, i would drink flask that blocks basically one hit and take little damage. Even so, if you can do a lot of dmg in little time, taking the nuke might be worth it
Roll to his right hip in second hit to evade nearly all of the light burst and throw the deflecting hardtear on to block the super rapid hits and other moves and also throw on the golden braid to reduce holy damage and the fight becomes much more manageable
2nd phase is just 1st phase but with more precise directions on rolls. If you roll to his side the AoEs won't hit you. If he does the gold shockwave Scott mentioned you can roll that and get a good window. Again make sure you're rolling towards him and to the side to avoid the gold AoE.
Okay for phase 2, roll to the side effect everytime he does a slam move, roll inwards when he does a swipe move. It's very easy to bait him to doing the overhead slam starter which leads to the giant explosion as an ender and that gives you a reslly good window to use a semi fast ash, hit him with a heavy, or 2 hits if you have a fast weapon. For the meteor into clone attacks, if you just run away as fast as possible for the meteors, the clones have a range limit and won't hit you so you just worry about him coming down and doing his combo
Fun fact: they actually nerfed this in calibration patch 1.12.1. That means that if you never went online after downloading the DLC you were on calibration patch 1.12, so some players (like me) did experience this attack stunlocking them
Wait really? I downloaded DLC day 1 but I've been playing on offline mode. I didn't realize the calibration patches didn't auto download. Just checked and yep, on calibration patch 1.12. *facepalm*
That's odd, says on Steam my installed version was last updated on June 20 and I never patched ER since, but I'm on calibration 1.12.1. How did you guys end up with 1.12?
@@icecreamvendor8245 Do you play in online mode or offline mode? If you at any point had your online settings on, the calibration patch happens automatically, without an actual update or download. I've had the game in offline mode since before the DLC even came out, so it never connected to the server & updated. The moment I switched to online mode, the calibration version updated right away.
@@FrogBeleren Right I'm with you, I was in online mode in ER's settings even after switching my Steam offline when the DLC released, thought doing the latter alone was enough. Damn though, can't imagine having to deal with a true combo oneshot in a Fromsoft game of all things, I have no idea how I would've coped. Prob the deflection tear?
In all my attempts on this boss even when I finally beat him. I still do not know how to not take damage from that attack. His first swing I dodge but his second comes out so fast I do not understand how to avoid it.
only way ive seen you can avoid it is by staying on his left side, and rolling left when he starts that attack, that way you're already out of range of the second swing and can safely dodge the third one.
It took me around 1 and a half hours to beat him. When I finally did I still couldn’t figure out how to completely dodge 3 of his attack combos in the second phase. It’s ridiculous. I’ve watched videos of people doing him hitless and I tried doing the same dodges. The only difference I could see is they all had light equip load and I was running medium.
I don't think I ever managed to dodge it myself but in the live version it deals so little damage in comparison that it wasn't an attempt ender even in 2nd phase.
the image appears to be of starscourge radahn, the base game boss. the idea, i imagine, is that it will make people think it's just an arbitrary iconic boss, rather than a representation of the actual dlc boss. the (anti-spoiler thumbnail) text might be meant to further imply that the picture is unrelated.
At this point anybody exposing themselves to YT either already knows, doesn’t care, or should know better than to be browsing content. This is just public knowledge now. I know it hasn’t even been a week yet, but that’s just how it is. He could obscure it more out of principle I guess, but it really doesn’t make a difference.
I always get clipped by the second hit of that triple slash. If that move one shotted in the release game, I would have left a negative review like all the other scrubs.
@butanium6567 It's easier to Strafe to the left to get near his left side and then dodge left forward to make the 2nd hit completely miss I always be strafing left in that boss because it makes dodging specifically that move and the slash into slow double slash easier
It's because the second attack is bugged or just evil, it catches your roll unless you have lucky positioning when he starts the combo. Best way to deal with it is to have a shield, get the physic to perfect block with your weapon, get an ash of war that dodges or parry it
Same bro. I can never quite seem to get the timing right on the second hit. I just started tanking it cause dodging the third hit gives you a great punish window.
@@stevsux4442yeah, I was happy to see Scott talk about this very attack because it always seemed like blind luck that I’d avoid the second swing. And like he said, it’s very hard to distinguish between that attack and others. This one move was my personal least favorite as well… I can’t even imagine how I’d feel on the review copy
I honestly think if this boss had its health reduce by around 10% and some of the attacks made much more manageable and readable(Looking at you cross slash, and phase two light attacks.) and also gave you some more opportunities to attack and stance break then this fight would be top 10 best souls fight easily As it stands however it feels like it's genuinely impossible unless you're using a bleed build with some mimic tear, impenetrable thorns, or some insane cheese. It's not fun to learn his moves when you get locked into a combo and die because you can't get out. This is the only boss in the DLC I genuinely think they made a mistake on with the rest being decent to incredible (Especially Messmer and Bayle). Update: I decided to try to practice this boss using the posture bar mod and holy shit its actually much more managable than I thought. I don't think his health or damage needs to be adjusted, however I defintely do think they need to adjust the readability and dodgeablity of some of the attacks. The cross slash is practically impossible to consistently dodge to the point i just tank through it and I defintely think they need to tone down some of the light effects because it can be very diffcult to see what the boss is doing at times. But yeah if you're on PC, get the posture bar mod installed it will make your life so much easier. Honestly a stupid decision they made was not showcasing the stance meter of bosses. The boss regains his posture really quickly though.
@nbomberguy44 they're not entirely wrong. With good enough timing only the 2nd hit will clip you and it should only do at most 20% of your health bar if you build properly.
Deflection physick is the way. Dodge on release is most of the reason people dodge attacks late. You end up pressing circle in time but not quite letting go in time. Whereas with deflection you just fast twitch press l1 when you perceive any movement and if its a delayed attack just calm down and press l1 in time with the attack.
@@jonnyfendi2003 Still can't believe he got nerfed twice while Malenia is sitting there unchanged. They really don't wanna touch the completely optional bosses.
You're kidding me, I feel even more shit realizing now that move was nerfed. In the present version, I cannot dodge this move consistently if my life depended on it. Even if you dodge the first swing, the second swing will always catch you during your roll, you have to be literally frame perfect in order to dodge it and I've only pulled it off like twice in my attempts
Is it bad that I can more or less always dodge all his phase 1 moves but phase 2 just bodies me, like he spams the teleports and aoe's so much I can't even breathe
@@Miki-hk6vyyeah it’s extremely pressuring. I found that the only way to deal with him is to be aggressive. His moves are built to punish you if you’re at a distance, but some of his attacks straight up can’t hit you if you’re right in front of him and a little bit to the left.
After my first 10 or 15-odd attempts at Radahn I hopped out of the DLC and decided to fight Radabeast out of curiosity to see how the difficulty compared. Using the exact same build I beat them on my first try in 2 and a half minutes, and I needed to heal a grand total of twice. What's more I'd only actually beaten Radabeast 3 times previously, and I hadn't fought them in well over a year. It's absolutely unreal how much more difficult the DLC is than the base game, but for the most part I actually think it's a good thing. Visual clutter in Radahn's second phase aside, given that this might very well be the end of Soulslikes as we know them, at least for a while, it feels appropriate to go out with a bang.
Yeah unless you go through the fog and he doesn't immediately do the spin into you, then summoning is achievable. Any other moment is impossible for me
@@Miki-hk6vythere were a few times that he didn’t do the spin at the beginning, but when I took a break and came back the next morning to fight him there wasn’t a single attempt where he didn’t do it. So it’s a little weird? He doesn’t do it instantly sometimes if you stand perfectly still after entering the boss door, but as soon as you move he does it.
idk if you already beat him but I found the best strat for mimic tear or other ashes was to walk in and wait like 1 second if he doesn't start the wind up, summon, if we does, role into him on the attack and immediately summon, you MAY get hit but sometimes not
@Scott Jund 1:30 the variable if im not mistaken must be elevation. The ground on this arena is uncharacteristically uneven and the attack is super unforgiving and tight creating a very small margin of randomness. Hitboxes as you know are pretty acurate and even tiny changes in elevation can alter lineups in minimal ways so that there is just enough time to dodge. You can see that in large scale for some of the bigger enemys in the game but it counts for the smallers too. To be more accurate: It is the diagonal nature of any attack making it volatile to elevation factor. If every attack in the game would simply be executed in a horizontal or vertical fassion elevation would not change anything. Because things are diagonal however sometimes they are essentially sometimes "faster" because you are simply closer to the hitbox.
that 3 slash combo still an insane move in my 7hrs of attempts i never once managed to dodge the first hit and then the second no matter which direction i rolled i had just accepted that move was free damage for him even on my successful attempts
1:24 the randomly sometimes not combo-ing is probably due to the player position, if the player was positioned further to the right of the 2nd swing it probably bought you a few extra frames that was just enough time to roll out.
I'd be interested in knowing what blessing level the reviewers were when they fought him as well. I was rank 17 when I beat him the other day. I ended up beating him using repeating strikes on a bleed lance, a great shield, and old reliable mimic tear with a +7 summons blessing.
Is that triple slash the one-shot you were talking about in your spoiler-free review video? Where you mentioned one guy at level 19 for the Scadu blessing being BARELY able to hang on with a sliver of health?
That attack still guarantees damage unless you are psychic and run away before the first swing comes out, bc the 2nd swing's hitbox is so large, I couldn't find a single direction to roll where I would either be outside of the 2nd swing's hitbox or rolling as early or late as possible. I've since finished it, it took 2 hours, but it wasn't very satisfying.
They nerfed but still is the shittiest attack in his arsenal, because it frames trap you. I was really happy when I discovered that you can dodge that attack, consistently using the backstep talisman. However, it has an aoe after effects on phase 2, so it doesn't work. I swear this is probably the one boss where casual players, souls streamer/content creator and challenge/hitless runners agree that it is too difficult
That attack is still insanely hard to avoid. Not only does your dodge need to be borderline frame-perfect, but the direction you roll matters too. That being said, it is possible to avoid, since he’ll only do it after certain moves, so you know it’s something he could throw. I’m sure someone’s gonna figure out what exactly is the trigger for it pretty soon
The triple cleave being unrollable solely made me switch to parrying him to kill him. Obviously its dumb that it could stunlock you like that but its infinitely more dumb that if you roll the first hit the second hit always catches you. Maybe there's some position you can roll to that avoids the second swing but I never found it.
I don't know what's happening in this boss fight, but whenever I get to phase 2 my framerate tanks. I have turned off ray tracing lowered graphics and still as soon as the holy fucking light comes out it takes half my frames away. Ignoring that it's super hard to see anything because of the particle effects I suddenly have to play at like half FPS on a 3080. Like what?
The camera bosses really soured this DLC for me. I really enjoyed the Rellana fight, probably my favorite boss of the DLC and shes one of the first you'll ever encounter. Finding the second dancing lion was like getting kicked in the nuts lmao
I was fighting his normal version (1.12), so this sequence of hits were also bane of my existence. I for life couldn't manage to perfectly dodge them in first phase. He stun locked me and either took 90 percent of my health or kill me if my healthbar was lower. Actually, in second phase light beams helped with this combo - thanks to them I was able to avoid last swing by rolling. I'm probably in minority, but I love this boss fight - It's by fucking mile the hardest things I ever done in video game. He took me almost 26 hours (solo of course, no summons, no mimic and no buffs, just reverse swords and 17 blessings). Malenia looks like a baby in comparison to him,
I also really like this fight, bullshit and all, but I didn't beat it pre-nerf so that probably helped. I also would say I had a much harder time on Malenia than I had the consort, somehow waterfowl dance was still harder to read and survive than all of his mess of a lightshow.
@@VonBoche this wasn’t Nerf, but calibration. And it didn’t change a thing if you were higher with scadutree blessings. It only increased first levels, but people said it did nothing -they Were still killed by 2-3 hits. I’ve beaten radhan in version 1.12 (launch one) and he was way harder than Malenia. Malenia got one move that is brutal - radhan can you kill is so many ways it’s Just insane. I love this fight. Hardest ever made in gaming.
I have the same thing, I played with different armour sets even one with a combined 100 poise and it still stun locks me, I think thats just what that move does?
I like that FromSoft took the community's reaction to Malenia being the hardest boss in the game to "We can do better" and we got a roided younger Radahn
after doing him a couple of times honestly this is the only attack I still have a problem with. Like , it just feels downright impossible to react to in time and dodge it. No, it feels like I can't even dodge it at all because I always get hit with the follow up
Yeah I play on xbox but if I get hit by any one of those 3 swings (the combo that ends in the “x” slash) it puts me in hit stun so the follow up is guaranteed, its ridiculous, I played with an overweight 100 poise armour set and was still getting stun locked.
@@Strfr33d0m Yeah I felt like I got lucky more than actually feeling rewarded after beating him. If you want a tip, use a great shield and just stand there blocking and counter hit, it even blocks all the magic from Miq so you don’t get killed by the random AOE nonsense, it took me a 3 hour session to get him killed earlier so good luck and I hope you can beat him.
After finally solo-ing the final boss, I have to say that attack is still so annoying, I genuinely don't know how you're supposed to dodge both swings, considering every time I dodge the first swing I will always be hit by the second. It's literally the only attack I couldn't dodge no matter what I tried.
I was fuming pulling my hairs out at those 3 attacks. Even in the live version. I beat him but still haven't found a way to dodge that attack. So even if only hit by 1 of the 3 it's guaranteed damage and I hate that. I tried dodging in all directions, delay the dodge to the latest moment and nothing works. I've only avoided all 3 attacks twice and that is thanks to the terrain.
Biggest issue, outside of the meteor and the x slash attack hitboxes, is the clutter. If they improve hitboxes and tonw down the effects a bit, it'll be muxh better. But right now, it's an 8/10 in my opinion. Great boss with some issues.
After spending a LONG time on both phases the first phase I feel only really has this attack and the sphere grab as what I’d call bs attacks. The nerfed version of this attack I feel you still can’t avoid getting hit by as if you roll away from the first hit you don’t have time to avoid the second hit which is really annoying but thankfully it doesn’t do too much damage. When I was getting good at the fight this was the only attack I couldn’t consistently dodge every hit of and was my only hit on my run I won on for the first phase. The only other issue is his sphere attack that comes out WAY too fast for how much range it has. Yes you can avoid this if you are thinking about and ready for this specific attack for the entire phase but it’s just feels unfair to get hit by with how much range it has. You can avoid it if you are on your game but if you are doing ANYTHING that you can’t immediately roll after to avoid this attack you’re getting hit no matter where you are. Phase 2 on the other hand has some many problems from frame killing to eye ball killing to half the attacks just feeling entirely unfair. He’s easily the hardest fight in the dlc but also really the only one I feel I beat by dealing with his bs not actually getting good.
Ive never complained about boss difficulty since the conception of fromsoftware games, that the honest truth. But this boss is fuckin ridiculous. Melania is a joke compared to this version of Rahdan
You can’t see shit, you can’t dodge with taking a hit (Gravity attack pulls you in and he slams down with an unavoidable aoe) and it just lasts longer than necessary it needs work still even plus if you have to summon an Thoiller to be useless nerf Radong health he’s as a character not a fighter and I just to complete his quest good lord
I still find the double swipe into slash with two swords to be LUDICROUSLY hard to dodge, getting the timing to dodge it without taking damage is insanely tight, if i dodge the first i always get hit by the second so i just treat it as guaranteed damage, its tough to swallow that it was even worse before,,,
Thank god someone said something about this, I loved the final boss but that specific move he would spin 180 degrees double hit losing half my health to him every time he did that, still managed to pull through though.
i hate to tell you but literally everyone can tell thats radahn in the thumbnail lmao, good video as always. Just hoping lots of people don't get spoiled
I was getting stunned by that combo, anytime I’d roll the first 1, the second one would hit me before I could dodge again and the 3rd was guaranteed. I be him last night, but this fight was stupid, it wasn’t fun and the only thing I could think the whole time I fought him. Was “as soon as I beat this boss I can get back to enjoying the game.”
@@Zindeyyy Disagree, I think it's a pretty lame moment. Bringing him back randomly as the final boss feels so out of left field and the writing/lore around it does not help. Wish they had went with anyone else.
@@CraftySalesmandon't know why the final boss wasn't Miquella, Marika, Radagon again, or even Malenia I like the lore implication that Miquella chose Radahn over Malenia but also Radahn died a very sad almost pathetic death and that with his legend makes it heart breaking
@@CraftySalesmanI literally just sat there disappointed after I saw him I was excited for the final boss the whole dlc just got it to be Radhan with a femboy on his back on top of not being a good fight.
You know that forehand attack from his left hand is not even that fast. The problem is the input delay in this game. I feel it is actually slower than malenia’s forehand attack. When i bought a new tv elden ring is the only game that i have to change my tv settings for. I used to beat malenia regularly but suddenly i cannot even pass 50% of first phase. That i go to settings and turn everything down and i beat her easily again. So im just wondering, what if that only made things better but never really fix the whole problem
I honestly do predict that more people will warm up to this boss over time. Right now, people may still be salty over the difficulty of it, since it is one of the hardest bosses they've ever made. Think back to Malenia though! Many complained about her at the start until more people started figuring her out, and in present day she's much more adored overall. While the hair and light obscuring the boss does inflate the difficulty, you can still use your knowledge of the timings from the first phase to dodge most of the 2nd phase attacks. That being said, this may be unintentional and is kind of unnecessary in my opinion - I do think that they should patch these things to be less obstructive. My only real 'problem' with the boss is that I don't think there should be any attacks that are unreactable and unavoidable using only movement. The two swings into the double cross seems to be meeting that description. Even then though, there are other ways to avoid it such as blocking, deflecting, backstepping with the talisman and so on. Overall, this is still one of my favourite bosses in all of Souls. I would place its difficulty in a similar tier to Malenia, remembering how difficult it was the first time I fought her. Give it a while, and I expect this boss won't feel nearly as hard as it does right now. It happened with Malenia, and it'll probably happen again.
It's wild how bs the fight still feels with this insanity nerfed. I don't think I would've had the patience to beat him if I had to deal with this crap.
I haven't beat Shadow of the Erdtree, but I was leaked the final fight and random clips while scrolling on Facebook. I got through most of the game without spoilers though so whatever.
Haven't reached it yet but I can't wait to get demolished, after humiliating Rellana and doing the same with Midra by parrying them to death I need a boss to curb stomp me.
I killed him with my powerstance greatsword build. It was pretty hard but i had more problems with malenia patch 1 than this fight. Took me around 50 tries with no summons/ashes.
Other than this I love this fight. No frame issues on ps5 but I see how PC players get nuked by it. That and the triple slash mentioned in the video are the only real flaws I see though, albeit his lights could be changed so that they can't really be seen when you dodge correctly (which is almost always directly into radahn.) I wish that people would start some movement to cause newer players to get over themselves, because almost every non-fps related complaint i've seen is pure skill issue and they get really, REALLY hateful and defensive about it when you tell them something isn't bad because it beat them up.
Jezus, he used to be worse? I already think that this is the worst and hardest boss I've ever faced. Half the time I can't see shit and the other half it feels like his clone attacks come in faster than I can dodge. I absolutely loathe this fight. I killed him in two tries with a shield after spending hours upon hours fighting him without and not getting him below 30%.
theres something like that combo that powerstanced running l1 of curved swords has, basically if you poise is too low or too high it will combo, but if its within a certain range it doesnt, might be something like that
I think ER enemies have all poise damage values at 50 and 100, so I don't see why that would be the case. I'm guessing it's an animation thing like sprinting, drinking, attacking would change the stun duration.
Um that attack still combos, if you try to roll the first one the second and third hits combo, and i’m pretty sure i’ve been full combo’ed by all three attacks before, it’s still a problematic attack to the point where you have to deflect or block one of the first two hits to not get true combo’ed. It doesn’t one shot if you get hit by it but it’s still a brutal attack especially when the light pillars are concealing your view of the boss animations. Not sure what version of the game you’re playing on but that’s been my experience on xbox. Also the big light beam explosion that he pulls from the ground still can one shot after his slam attack super combo, but not the other one for some reason.
That ain't a fun little tid-bit. That's terrifying! I JUST basked in the glory of defeating him after over 100 deaths. It's funny... Every boss I found incredibly hard just ends up popping up in recommended with 'no hit' in the title. Happiness buff instantly sapped :D
Me who unknowingly reach the final boss: "THAT'S THE FINAL BOSS?!?" Im sad that it took me this much to reach him, but at least the rest of world wont be easier or faster to finish " i hope so "
I just defeted Radhan with f’in rng and almost every attack is stun you. So no, evety f’in attack is stun you and every combo is “one” shot you. Bad boss.
Yeah if you get hit it still hit stuns you enough for him to hit you with the rest of the combo in my experience, I beat Radahn earlier and genuinely felt like it was just lucky more than anything.
@@Ashagagalexactly it feels you need everything to go right in the second phase to beat him. I made the huge mistake of playing the dlc at 190 at ng 7 I made it through but let me tell u it was terrifying the whole way through.
@@Swahps yeah exactly that I got lucky he didn’t do the full screen holy rain move too many times because that move was 1 hitting me from 52 vigor (arouns 1800HP)
The 2nd phase of this fight genuinely feels like it's not supposed to be in this game. The attacks are just absolutely insane and the visual clutter makes me feel like im fighting an armored core boss. I absolutely hate the 3 swing attack, and the shadow clone attacks are borderline undodgeable. For the sake of this games health, this boss NEEDS a nerf of some kind. Less health, less damage, ill take anything at this point. I typically try not to use spirit ashes but this boss is really pushing my limits
My main problem is i can't fucking SEE
15 flash bangs going out every 2 seconds lmao
This, my fucking eyes
it also tanks my frames
Imagine if they could come up with less abrasive artificial difficulty. Makes me almost miss DS2 boss design.
Agreed, it's such a stupid curveball. I can live with the light beams, you just need to get the timing down and direction of your dodges, but it's get so visually cluttered that I just end up making some mistake that just spirals out of control. I've even had Miquellas hair obstruct the whole view to the point where I didn't see anything at all.
Radahn had to be nerfed twice💀
Maleniacels seething
we will never know a true peak radahn
"mightiest of the demigods" and he proves this allegation every time
wonder how many people know base game Radahn was unnerfed and just had his hitboxes fixed
@@AltAccount-dz8rpmost fans don't read patch notes. It's so annoying seeing people puff out their chest bc they beat the broken hitbox Radahn. Like congrats you got lucky with RNG.
That attack is so powerful not even ongbal could dodge it. He had to play until he got a run where radahn never did that attack in the second phase.
He uses guard deflect tear to not get hit by it now. Seems undodgeable
I just wish they had even a slightly creative way to increase difficulty. It’s just such nonsense. I don’t play Fromsoft games to look at Korean MMO effects.
Yeah it's dumb. Apart from the deflect tear he now found a backstep strat with the talisman for i-frames
Only thing I hated in the entire dlc's boss fights. The only way I was able to dodge it was by reacting to this lights peed attack with a Right Blind Spot, or just react deflect the first slash... While radahn has so many attacks with a startup as fast as it. It's a mess of a move
I've seen one person consistently dodge it. You have to have light roll and be hugging his right leg. The instant the startup for the attack begins, you dodge in towards the back of his right leg and the second hit of the attack swings over your head, giving you enough time to dodge the third hit. It's still complete bs, though, because the positioning and timing are so tight.
Really not a fan of this bossfight. The first phase is basically perfect, was really fun, had well defined patterns that you can learn. The second phase is atrocious, your screen gets flashbanged every few seconds, and when it's not that, it's Miquellas luscious 3m long hair obscuring Radahn's attacks, making you unable to figure out what he's doing.
its really not that bad once u get used to it, does it take a few attempts for sure, but just keep at it
I really never felt this I thought it was perfect ngl
Greatshield bleed lance poke him
@@Omba6666 it took me 7 hours and it really is that bad. you cant see anything half the time because he'll start new combos when the previous beams of light are still going off or when his back is to you and Miquella's hair is in your face. So you often just die from something you could not see.
@@squall6439 one of the most absolutely unfairly balanced bosses in FROM history, which is entirely balanced around an arbitrary fetch-quest mechanic that is effectively required of you to do rather than relying on the actual game mechanics if you don't want to either get one shot, or have to take literally an hour to kill an end-game boss.
"it was perfect"
Miyazaki won't pay you any more mind if you thoughtlessly defend this absolute slop of a fight.
So even "nerfed" he's still bullshit? Good to know, thanks Scott!
Even nerfed he’s still the best boss ever
Quit fucking complaining, just learn instead of yapping your ass off the whole time, everything can be dodged or mostly avoided otherwise they wouldn’t add it.
reviewers died to it more but from a no hit perspective its actually stronger now. you used to be able to clean roll through the first two hits with one roll and now its a frame trap that is impossible to reliably dodge (reliably being the key word here)
yeah it really sucks being chipped down when he decides to do that. the only reliable play is to not be next to him when he does it, or block or deflect it.
Oh and the infamous "Miquella's nuke" attack that one-shotted my FPS from stable 60 to crumbling 16. The most destructive type of attacks.
Bruh I was playing on Xbox X and I never ever had any lag with this game until Radahn did his holy meteor attack and It literally went from 60 to 5 fps for a few seconds, the second time he did it i just chugged my flask that heals for damage taken and ate it all cuz It's impossible to dodge with such framerate.
I was wondering if console had the same issue and I thought it was just poor optimization on pc when i played. Glad to know console players have the same issues.
@@peevan I mean, heard that PC lags even with his normal laser beams, on console It's just the dive bomb which really nukes them, the rest is mostly fine
@@limurtempesto5867 i only had the nuke drop my fps to 30 in the fight everything else was fine. idk maybe other people have lower end computers, i cant confirm yet.
yeah they need to fix that, that was the only issue I got with the fight
I think the damage numbers are a bit high during the second phase, but it's honestly nothing compared to the visual clutter that Miquella kindly provides, it made it SO difficult to even read what Radahn was doing, which didn't help given that I was already struggling to even make it to the second phase so I could barely learn his attacks. Still think the fight is good but man a lot of those 74 attempts were literally just trying to figure out what he was actually doing.
That multi hit teleport combo is awful man I legit cannot see
As artificial of difficult as it Gets
And shit on pc that big aoe attack just crashes frames lol
@@MeepFromSpongebob and it is random if truely hits you, if you're not in a certain degree, it doesn't hit you. At first i thought the clone were just fake due to this bug
The optimization is so piss poor on PC. With a good rig, I ended up lowering all of my settings to medium and my resolution to 1080p in hopes that the AOE would remain smooth, and the frame dips remained consistently as bad. I was getting around 25 FPS no matter what my settings were. Had a similar problem in the Ancient Ruins. No matter the settings, if I looked towards the god rays up there, my frames dipped to 40. Even tried this with DLSS on all settings.
It's just really disappointing how the first phase is pretty much a perfect masterpiece of a fight and then the second phase just becomes so obnoxious because you can't see anything
perfect masterpiece with an undodgable attack lmao
No where near masterpiece, but not bad... the second phase just makes it even worse lol
Yeah phase 1 took me a while to learn but genuinely felt good once I learned to dodge all the moves but phase 2 is pure RNG from my experience. I beat him but had to use a greatshield to absorb the damage and counter hit, it did not feel rewarding. I agree with the original comment I think phase 1 actually feels rewarding if you learn it with the exception of that broken 3 hit combo that ends with the cross, the hit stun is busted on it.
@nbomberguy44 Near perfect. That 2nd hit into the cross is quite bs I admit. But that's like the only flaw in the first phase
@nbomberguy44 Strafe left then dodge left forward, it'll miss, especially if you're light roll
Tbh the strategy for radahn is to just be strafing left almost the entire fight. Some moves just straight up miss or makes it easier to dodge attacks
I didn't get spoiled because I heard that people were putting spoilers in thumbnails frame 1 after the embargo lifted, and stayed away from the suggestion feed until I cleared the dlc, but Scott, there's a reason why you have more people complaining about it in the comments than giving you props. Your video is about the last boss, and the thumbnail clearly shows a person with a large frame holding two swords. Only one character, much less boss, fits that bill
Lmao its so obvious
I was under the impression that Messmer was the final boss and that fight is absolutely incredible. Then I got to this and low key hate it
I knew going in Messmer wouldn't be the final boss. Mostly because if we look at previous FromSoft DLC, the ones that feature characters, those characters are never the final boss. Artorious for DS1 and Lady Marie for Bloodborne. Except with those DLCs, the final boss actually slapped. Here, we get all this build up for Miquella just to find out it was all for Rahdan 2: Electric Boogaloo.
@@user-nm1si5xk7o yeah even if I beat Radahn twice now I really really dislike this fight. You have all this freedom in the base game of Elden Ring to play and do what you want and many weapons shine in different ways but for the life of me I could not beat the second phase of this boss with anything but a cheese build I found. Like I can't even imagine playing a one weapon only run and trying to beat this monstrosity. I don't really even know what could be nerfed here since his 2nd phase is just outright bad, only good attacks are some beefed up from his 1st phase, everything else is either undodgeable or unavoidable completely bc of the stun
@@Miki-hk6vyI think the fight is just built for you to summon. You’re able to summon 2 npcs at the door. I know a ton of people are against it but the boss has so many sweeping moves and mobility undoubtedly because of this.
@@firelordwaffle2987 would not be suprised if this were the case
@@firelordwaffle2987 Summoning NPCs makes the fight even harder, bc it boosts Radahn's already enormous health pool by 80%/130%, and the summons just die 30 seconds into the second phase.
I still haven’t even beaten Radahn. This boss makes Malenia look like Pinwheel I swear. It’s not even the fun kind of difficult like Messmer, Rellana and Bayle were in this DLC, where sure they’re super hard but learning the moveset is awesome.
I’ve been on him for two days now, while taking breaks between. Phase 1 is fine, I think the meteor attack and double slash attack are a bit weird to dodge but that’s a minor. I’ve legit no hit Phase 1 before at this point. Phase 2 is just not it, the boss barely gives you any windows to attack yourself while he does a zillion combos, so many attacks have lingering AoEs with all the stupid light pillars so you always get roll caught, and there’s SHIT ALL OVER THE SCREEN SO I CANT EVEN SEE WHAT HE’S DOING HALF THE TIME. I’ve fought this boss so many times and I still don’t have dodging the flippy attacks or the nukes down to a science it’s crazy. Malenia has like 1 super bullshit attack while Radahn’s out here with 10 hahaha
Keep at it, i managed to beat him with pure str build and greatsword after like 12 hours.
One thing i would do is as the second phase start, I would use lions savage claw and stun him and by using vicious attack i wpuld basically avoid his nuke. If not, i would drink flask that blocks basically one hit and take little damage. Even so, if you can do a lot of dmg in little time, taking the nuke might be worth it
Roll to his right hip in second hit to evade nearly all of the light burst and throw the deflecting hardtear on to block the super rapid hits and other moves and also throw on the golden braid to reduce holy damage and the fight becomes much more manageable
2nd phase is just 1st phase but with more precise directions on rolls. If you roll to his side the AoEs won't hit you. If he does the gold shockwave Scott mentioned you can roll that and get a good window. Again make sure you're rolling towards him and to the side to avoid the gold AoE.
Okay for phase 2, roll to the side effect everytime he does a slam move, roll inwards when he does a swipe move. It's very easy to bait him to doing the overhead slam starter which leads to the giant explosion as an ender and that gives you a reslly good window to use a semi fast ash, hit him with a heavy, or 2 hits if you have a fast weapon. For the meteor into clone attacks, if you just run away as fast as possible for the meteors, the clones have a range limit and won't hit you so you just worry about him coming down and doing his combo
Just cheese him why torture yourself with that trash i dont even know what his full move set was i was able to break his poise so fast😂😂
Fun fact: they actually nerfed this in calibration patch 1.12.1. That means that if you never went online after downloading the DLC you were on calibration patch 1.12, so some players (like me) did experience this attack stunlocking them
Wait really? I downloaded DLC day 1 but I've been playing on offline mode. I didn't realize the calibration patches didn't auto download. Just checked and yep, on calibration patch 1.12. *facepalm*
Sameeeeee
That's odd, says on Steam my installed version was last updated on June 20 and I never patched ER since, but I'm on calibration 1.12.1. How did you guys end up with 1.12?
@@icecreamvendor8245 Do you play in online mode or offline mode? If you at any point had your online settings on, the calibration patch happens automatically, without an actual update or download. I've had the game in offline mode since before the DLC even came out, so it never connected to the server & updated. The moment I switched to online mode, the calibration version updated right away.
@@FrogBeleren Right I'm with you, I was in online mode in ER's settings even after switching my Steam offline when the DLC released, thought doing the latter alone was enough. Damn though, can't imagine having to deal with a true combo oneshot in a Fromsoft game of all things, I have no idea how I would've coped. Prob the deflection tear?
The thumbnail is still a very obvious spoiler btw. Not that I care, but I know lots of people do.
In all my attempts on this boss even when I finally beat him. I still do not know how to not take damage from that attack. His first swing I dodge but his second comes out so fast I do not understand how to avoid it.
Oh thank god. I thought I was the only one
only way ive seen you can avoid it is by staying on his left side, and rolling left when he starts that attack, that way you're already out of range of the second swing and can safely dodge the third one.
It took me around 1 and a half hours to beat him. When I finally did I still couldn’t figure out how to completely dodge 3 of his attack combos in the second phase. It’s ridiculous. I’ve watched videos of people doing him hitless and I tried doing the same dodges. The only difference I could see is they all had light equip load and I was running medium.
yeah its weird. you either tank the first and dodge the second or dodge the first and tank the second. unsatisfying move design
I don't think I ever managed to dodge it myself but in the live version it deals so little damage in comparison that it wasn't an attempt ender even in 2nd phase.
Not to be that guy but anyone who played Elden Ring can guess who is on your "anti-spoiler thumbnail"...
Yeah I had no idea and now I'm spoiled haha. Even the colors match Radhan' main game boss fight
the image appears to be of starscourge radahn, the base game boss. the idea, i imagine, is that it will make people think it's just an arbitrary iconic boss, rather than a representation of the actual dlc boss. the (anti-spoiler thumbnail) text might be meant to further imply that the picture is unrelated.
@@UltraSyre My first thought was that Radhan' would be the final boss in the DLC. If that's the idea why not use Malenia or Margitt
At this point anybody exposing themselves to YT either already knows, doesn’t care, or should know better than to be browsing content. This is just public knowledge now. I know it hasn’t even been a week yet, but that’s just how it is. He could obscure it more out of principle I guess, but it really doesn’t make a difference.
@@LAK_770 I didn't know haha.
I had to put on sunglasses for the 2nd phase otherwise my eyes would physically hurt
SAME! I thought I was the only one!
I always get clipped by the second hit of that triple slash. If that move one shotted in the release game, I would have left a negative review like all the other scrubs.
dodge to the right and dodge again to right then dodge forward. although timing is really slim
@butanium6567 It's easier to Strafe to the left to get near his left side and then dodge left forward to make the 2nd hit completely miss
I always be strafing left in that boss because it makes dodging specifically that move and the slash into slow double slash easier
It's because the second attack is bugged or just evil, it catches your roll unless you have lucky positioning when he starts the combo. Best way to deal with it is to have a shield, get the physic to perfect block with your weapon, get an ash of war that dodges or parry it
Same bro. I can never quite seem to get the timing right on the second hit. I just started tanking it cause dodging the third hit gives you a great punish window.
@@stevsux4442yeah, I was happy to see Scott talk about this very attack because it always seemed like blind luck that I’d avoid the second swing. And like he said, it’s very hard to distinguish between that attack and others. This one move was my personal least favorite as well… I can’t even imagine how I’d feel on the review copy
I honestly think if this boss had its health reduce by around 10% and some of the attacks made much more manageable and readable(Looking at you cross slash, and phase two light attacks.) and also gave you some more opportunities to attack and stance break then this fight would be top 10 best souls fight easily
As it stands however it feels like it's genuinely impossible unless you're using a bleed build with some mimic tear, impenetrable thorns, or some insane cheese.
It's not fun to learn his moves when you get locked into a combo and die because you can't get out.
This is the only boss in the DLC I genuinely think they made a mistake on with the rest being decent to incredible (Especially Messmer and Bayle).
Update: I decided to try to practice this boss using the posture bar mod and holy shit its actually much more managable than I thought. I don't think his health or damage needs to be adjusted, however I defintely do think they need to adjust the readability and dodgeablity of some of the attacks. The cross slash is practically impossible to consistently dodge to the point i just tank through it and I defintely think they need to tone down some of the light effects because it can be very diffcult to see what the boss is doing at times.
But yeah if you're on PC, get the posture bar mod installed it will make your life so much easier. Honestly a stupid decision they made was not showcasing the stance meter of bosses. The boss regains his posture really quickly though.
Lets hope they fix that
The damage reduction and increase and damage dealt can be accomplished with Scadutree fragments.
More tired of the anime powerups.
The idea of the powerups is just stale and less interesting than a Godwyn fight.
this is pretty much revamping the whole fight honestly. Phase 1 is good but phase 2is just too long and all the attacks are bad
i already thought that double hit into x slash was the worst thing about the fight, it used to be WORSE???
its not too bad besides the lingering ground hitbox, just dodge diagonally into him
@@razerblaze070 delusional
@nbomberguy44 they're not entirely wrong. With good enough timing only the 2nd hit will clip you and it should only do at most 20% of your health bar if you build properly.
@@nbomberguy44 it's true though?
@@nbomberguy44 not really, i can consistently dodge the move pretty well
Deflection physick is the way. Dodge on release is most of the reason people dodge attacks late. You end up pressing circle in time but not quite letting go in time. Whereas with deflection you just fast twitch press l1 when you perceive any movement and if its a delayed attack just calm down and press l1 in time with the attack.
Works on phase one, not on phase two. He'll just chip damage you to death, most of his combo enders push you back, so you can't guard counter.
Did this on my second play through with the new big shiled and i just R2 poked him to death
@@killerking2346You can use lord's divine fortification
But parries is better than deflections for sure
@@killerking2346 guard counter first hit then you can dodge into him on second and third
Appreciate the effort to not spoil things in thumbnails/titles
you mean HES NERFED?!?!!???
Radahn never escaped that curse lol
Yup
Yes. Blame Melania
@@jonnyfendi2003 Still can't believe he got nerfed twice while Malenia is sitting there unchanged. They really don't wanna touch the completely optional bosses.
@@SharkamfssTbh Malenia is a lot less fun to fight than radahn
You're kidding me, I feel even more shit realizing now that move was nerfed. In the present version, I cannot dodge this move consistently if my life depended on it. Even if you dodge the first swing, the second swing will always catch you during your roll, you have to be literally frame perfect in order to dodge it and I've only pulled it off like twice in my attempts
Is it bad that I can more or less always dodge all his phase 1 moves but phase 2 just bodies me, like he spams the teleports and aoe's so much I can't even breathe
@@Miki-hk6vyyeah it’s extremely pressuring. I found that the only way to deal with him is to be aggressive. His moves are built to punish you if you’re at a distance, but some of his attacks straight up can’t hit you if you’re right in front of him and a little bit to the left.
After my first 10 or 15-odd attempts at Radahn I hopped out of the DLC and decided to fight Radabeast out of curiosity to see how the difficulty compared. Using the exact same build I beat them on my first try in 2 and a half minutes, and I needed to heal a grand total of twice. What's more I'd only actually beaten Radabeast 3 times previously, and I hadn't fought them in well over a year. It's absolutely unreal how much more difficult the DLC is than the base game, but for the most part I actually think it's a good thing. Visual clutter in Radahn's second phase aside, given that this might very well be the end of Soulslikes as we know them, at least for a while, it feels appropriate to go out with a bang.
Literally everyone can tell who that is in the thumbnail.
bro i had trouble with him so i wanted to summon some ashes and he wont even let you summon them
Yeah unless you go through the fog and he doesn't immediately do the spin into you, then summoning is achievable. Any other moment is impossible for me
@@Miki-hk6vythere were a few times that he didn’t do the spin at the beginning, but when I took a break and came back the next morning to fight him there wasn’t a single attempt where he didn’t do it. So it’s a little weird? He doesn’t do it instantly sometimes if you stand perfectly still after entering the boss door, but as soon as you move he does it.
idk if you already beat him but I found the best strat for mimic tear or other ashes was to walk in and wait like 1 second if he doesn't start the wind up, summon, if we does, role into him on the attack and immediately summon, you MAY get hit but sometimes not
Just FYI that thumbnail is completely useless.
@Scott Jund
1:30
the variable if im not mistaken must be elevation. The ground on this arena is uncharacteristically uneven and the attack is super unforgiving and tight creating a very small margin of randomness.
Hitboxes as you know are pretty acurate and even tiny changes in elevation can alter lineups in minimal ways so that there is just enough time to dodge.
You can see that in large scale for some of the bigger enemys in the game but it counts for the smallers too.
To be more accurate: It is the diagonal nature of any attack making it volatile to elevation factor. If every attack in the game would simply be executed in a horizontal or vertical fassion elevation would not change anything. Because things are diagonal however sometimes they are essentially sometimes "faster" because you are simply closer to the hitbox.
that 3 slash combo still an insane move in my 7hrs of attempts i never once managed to dodge the first hit and then the second no matter which direction i rolled i had just accepted that move was free damage for him even on my successful attempts
Yeah I don't know if this was just a reviewer thing because it operated the same way when I played on the release ps5 version
1:24 the randomly sometimes not combo-ing is probably due to the player position, if the player was positioned further to the right of the 2nd swing it probably bought you a few extra frames that was just enough time to roll out.
Your "anti-spoiler" thumbnail is just fuzzy Radahn.
Congratulations. 🏆
"B-b-but the developer's VISION! Nerfing fights is bad something something artistic integrity!" And he'll be nerfed again, bet
Brother WHAT!?
I thought the only change was the arena getting darker?
That's ridiculous.
Also it's so funny how the double cleave is still the worst move he has since it's pretty much unrollable if you don't stand to his left.
I'd be interested in knowing what blessing level the reviewers were when they fought him as well. I was rank 17 when I beat him the other day. I ended up beating him using repeating strikes on a bleed lance, a great shield, and old reliable mimic tear with a +7 summons blessing.
Is that triple slash the one-shot you were talking about in your spoiler-free review video?
Where you mentioned one guy at level 19 for the Scadu blessing being BARELY able to hang on with a sliver of health?
That attack still guarantees damage unless you are psychic and run away before the first swing comes out, bc the 2nd swing's hitbox is so large, I couldn't find a single direction to roll where I would either be outside of the 2nd swing's hitbox or rolling as early or late as possible.
I've since finished it, it took 2 hours, but it wasn't very satisfying.
Cool insight! Thanks! Glad they fixed that. I love this fight!
They nerfed but still is the shittiest attack in his arsenal, because it frames trap you. I was really happy when I discovered that you can dodge that attack, consistently using the backstep talisman. However, it has an aoe after effects on phase 2, so it doesn't work.
I swear this is probably the one boss where casual players, souls streamer/content creator and challenge/hitless runners agree that it is too difficult
I loved this fight. After I stopped summoning Ansbach.
The best way to deal with that attack is to parry it, but I just couldn't get the timing right consistently
they don't call him "scourge" for nothin
they should change his title from scourge to slop, because that's what this boss fight is 🤣
@@mistermorphescarnoe2898 "Starslop Radahn"
has a nice ring to it
@@naota909 Promised Slop Radahn. Radahn, Slop of Miquella
@@mistermorphescarnoe2898 Radahn, Sloppy Seconds of Miquella
One of the fights that I had to do parry only. That’s the only thing that made this fight bearable for me.
That attack is still insanely hard to avoid. Not only does your dodge need to be borderline frame-perfect, but the direction you roll matters too. That being said, it is possible to avoid, since he’ll only do it after certain moves, so you know it’s something he could throw. I’m sure someone’s gonna figure out what exactly is the trigger for it pretty soon
The triple cleave being unrollable solely made me switch to parrying him to kill him. Obviously its dumb that it could stunlock you like that but its infinitely more dumb that if you roll the first hit the second hit always catches you. Maybe there's some position you can roll to that avoids the second swing but I never found it.
Wait wait wait wait. YOU CAN PARRY HIM?!?!?!?
@@sladevalen2120 yeah. Pretty much any startup move that doesn't use magic or the giga delayed uppercut
You should change the thumbnail. It's still obvious who it is
They finally took out the flashbang pf the namco bandai just to give us this second phase to blind us for good.
I don't know what's happening in this boss fight, but whenever I get to phase 2 my framerate tanks. I have turned off ray tracing lowered graphics and still as soon as the holy fucking light comes out it takes half my frames away. Ignoring that it's super hard to see anything because of the particle effects I suddenly have to play at like half FPS on a 3080. Like what?
The camera bosses really soured this DLC for me. I really enjoyed the Rellana fight, probably my favorite boss of the DLC and shes one of the first you'll ever encounter. Finding the second dancing lion was like getting kicked in the nuts lmao
I was fighting his normal version (1.12), so this sequence of hits were also bane of my existence. I for life couldn't manage to perfectly dodge them in first phase. He stun locked me and either took 90 percent of my health or kill me if my healthbar was lower. Actually, in second phase light beams helped with this combo - thanks to them I was able to avoid last swing by rolling. I'm probably in minority, but I love this boss fight - It's by fucking mile the hardest things I ever done in video game. He took me almost 26 hours (solo of course, no summons, no mimic and no buffs, just reverse swords and 17 blessings). Malenia looks like a baby in comparison to him,
I also really like this fight, bullshit and all, but I didn't beat it pre-nerf so that probably helped. I also would say I had a much harder time on Malenia than I had the consort, somehow waterfowl dance was still harder to read and survive than all of his mess of a lightshow.
@@VonBoche this wasn’t Nerf, but calibration. And it didn’t change a thing if you were higher with scadutree blessings. It only increased first levels, but people said it did nothing -they Were still killed by 2-3 hits. I’ve beaten radhan in version 1.12 (launch one) and he was way harder than Malenia. Malenia got one move that is brutal - radhan can you kill is so many ways it’s Just insane. I love this fight. Hardest ever made in gaming.
When I get hit by the 2nd hit I can't ever roll away
I have the same thing, I played with different armour sets even one with a combined 100 poise and it still stun locks me, I think thats just what that move does?
Yea idk that attack still doesn’t feel nerfed for me. The second attack almost always combos into the third attack for me
I hated Radahn on release more than anything in the game and now its a slap in the face to have to deal with him again
Thanks for the no spoiler thumbnail, but the damage has already been done by many others sadly
my problem is enduring a tactical nuke in the second phase
I like that FromSoft took the community's reaction to Malenia being the hardest boss in the game to "We can do better" and we got a roided younger Radahn
after doing him a couple of times honestly this is the only attack I still have a problem with. Like , it just feels downright impossible to react to in time and dodge it. No, it feels like I can't even dodge it at all because I always get hit with the follow up
You're telling me his giga fast frametrap triple slash thats nearly impossible to consistently dodge used to TRUE COMBO ALL OF ITS HITS?
His swords do mainly Phys and Magic damage. I think having these two resists are more worth than Holy.
Honestly, my biggest issue was the framedrops in the second phase
Deflecting physick is so good for the dlc and this fight
lol i still get stunned by this combo if it hits me like 90% of the time does that mean ps5 is using the review version?
ive been feeling like i was doing something wrong cause i get true combo'd if it hits me and i see nobody else complaining about it
Yeah I play on xbox but if I get hit by any one of those 3 swings (the combo that ends in the “x” slash) it puts me in hit stun so the follow up is guaranteed, its ridiculous, I played with an overweight 100 poise armour set and was still getting stun locked.
maybe the consoles plaiyng with the un nerfed version but it makes me not want to try beat him until its fixed its a 100% runender in phase 2
@@Strfr33d0m Yeah I felt like I got lucky more than actually feeling rewarded after beating him. If you want a tip, use a great shield and just stand there blocking and counter hit, it even blocks all the magic from Miq so you don’t get killed by the random AOE nonsense, it took me a 3 hour session to get him killed earlier so good luck and I hope you can beat him.
I just beat him on console and those 3 hits never combo'd on me. Only 80 poise. Perhaps something is off with your specific version.
After finally solo-ing the final boss, I have to say that attack is still so annoying, I genuinely don't know how you're supposed to dodge both swings, considering every time I dodge the first swing I will always be hit by the second. It's literally the only attack I couldn't dodge no matter what I tried.
The depths of his designer's foolishness...!
(please miyazaki give mad boy more HP)
My favourite part is when he decides to tank your pc down to 10 frames. No Scott it's not the Raytracing, the dlc actually just has performance issues
I was fuming pulling my hairs out at those 3 attacks. Even in the live version. I beat him but still haven't found a way to dodge that attack. So even if only hit by 1 of the 3 it's guaranteed damage and I hate that. I tried dodging in all directions, delay the dodge to the latest moment and nothing works. I've only avoided all 3 attacks twice and that is thanks to the terrain.
Biggest issue, outside of the meteor and the x slash attack hitboxes, is the clutter. If they improve hitboxes and tonw down the effects a bit, it'll be muxh better. But right now, it's an 8/10 in my opinion. Great boss with some issues.
After spending a LONG time on both phases the first phase I feel only really has this attack and the sphere grab as what I’d call bs attacks. The nerfed version of this attack I feel you still can’t avoid getting hit by as if you roll away from the first hit you don’t have time to avoid the second hit which is really annoying but thankfully it doesn’t do too much damage. When I was getting good at the fight this was the only attack I couldn’t consistently dodge every hit of and was my only hit on my run I won on for the first phase. The only other issue is his sphere attack that comes out WAY too fast for how much range it has. Yes you can avoid this if you are thinking about and ready for this specific attack for the entire phase but it’s just feels unfair to get hit by with how much range it has. You can avoid it if you are on your game but if you are doing ANYTHING that you can’t immediately roll after to avoid this attack you’re getting hit no matter where you are. Phase 2 on the other hand has some many problems from frame killing to eye ball killing to half the attacks just feeling entirely unfair. He’s easily the hardest fight in the dlc but also really the only one I feel I beat by dealing with his bs not actually getting good.
dont let this distract you from the fact that Scott hasn’t made a sequel for Through the Portal yet
Ive never complained about boss difficulty since the conception of fromsoftware games, that the honest truth. But this boss is fuckin ridiculous. Melania is a joke compared to this version of Rahdan
THIS IS INSANE
That double sword slash is still impossible to dodge for me, if I dodge the first I'll still get clipped by the second, and it's driving me insane
You can’t see shit, you can’t dodge with taking a hit (Gravity attack pulls you in and he slams down with an unavoidable aoe) and it just lasts longer than necessary it needs work still even plus if you have to summon an Thoiller to be useless nerf Radong health he’s as a character not a fighter and I just to complete his quest good lord
I still find the double swipe into slash with two swords to be LUDICROUSLY hard to dodge, getting the timing to dodge it without taking damage is insanely tight, if i dodge the first i always get hit by the second so i just treat it as guaranteed damage, its tough to swallow that it was even worse before,,,
Thank god someone said something about this, I loved the final boss but that specific move he would spin 180 degrees double hit losing half my health to him every time he did that, still managed to pull through though.
i hate to tell you but literally everyone can tell thats radahn in the thumbnail lmao, good video as always. Just hoping lots of people don't get spoiled
I was getting stunned by that combo, anytime I’d roll the first 1, the second one would hit me before I could dodge again and the 3rd was guaranteed. I be him last night, but this fight was stupid, it wasn’t fun and the only thing I could think the whole time I fought him. Was “as soon as I beat this boss I can get back to enjoying the game.”
I appreciate the antispoiler attempt but I instantly recognized Radhan's shape :/
Bummer I managed to get no spoilers so far!
Thaaaat really sucks, I’m so sorry. Seeing Radahn as the final boss was a cool moment.
@@Zindeyyy Disagree, I think it's a pretty lame moment. Bringing him back randomly as the final boss feels so out of left field and the writing/lore around it does not help. Wish they had went with anyone else.
@@CraftySalesmandon't know why the final boss wasn't Miquella, Marika, Radagon again, or even Malenia
I like the lore implication that Miquella chose Radahn over Malenia but also Radahn died a very sad almost pathetic death and that with his legend makes it heart breaking
@@CraftySalesmanI literally just sat there disappointed after I saw him I was excited for the final boss the whole dlc just got it to be Radhan with a femboy on his back on top of not being a good fight.
@@CraftySalesmanwhy does it feel so out of left field? Not disagreeing just trying to see what they could have improved on.
You know that forehand attack from his left hand is not even that fast. The problem is the input delay in this game. I feel it is actually slower than malenia’s forehand attack. When i bought a new tv elden ring is the only game that i have to change my tv settings for. I used to beat malenia regularly but suddenly i cannot even pass 50% of first phase. That i go to settings and turn everything down and i beat her easily again. So im just wondering, what if that only made things better but never really fix the whole problem
They removed a move from him?
I honestly do predict that more people will warm up to this boss over time. Right now, people may still be salty over the difficulty of it, since it is one of the hardest bosses they've ever made.
Think back to Malenia though! Many complained about her at the start until more people started figuring her out, and in present day she's much more adored overall.
While the hair and light obscuring the boss does inflate the difficulty, you can still use your knowledge of the timings from the first phase to dodge most of the 2nd phase attacks. That being said, this may be unintentional and is kind of unnecessary in my opinion - I do think that they should patch these things to be less obstructive.
My only real 'problem' with the boss is that I don't think there should be any attacks that are unreactable and unavoidable using only movement. The two swings into the double cross seems to be meeting that description. Even then though, there are other ways to avoid it such as blocking, deflecting, backstepping with the talisman and so on.
Overall, this is still one of my favourite bosses in all of Souls. I would place its difficulty in a similar tier to Malenia, remembering how difficult it was the first time I fought her. Give it a while, and I expect this boss won't feel nearly as hard as it does right now. It happened with Malenia, and it'll probably happen again.
Imma be real I played this lore accurately and used scarlet aeonia. No shame whatsoever
It's wild how bs the fight still feels with this insanity nerfed. I don't think I would've had the patience to beat him if I had to deal with this crap.
I haven't beat Shadow of the Erdtree, but I was leaked the final fight and random clips while scrolling on Facebook. I got through most of the game without spoilers though so whatever.
I'd be livid if the Promised Consort reveal got ruined on me
@@Sharkamfss
Eh, it was kind of obvious from the get go tbh.
Haven't reached it yet but I can't wait to get demolished, after humiliating Rellana and doing the same with Midra by parrying them to death I need a boss to curb stomp me.
I killed him with my powerstance greatsword build. It was pretty hard but i had more problems with malenia patch 1 than this fight. Took me around 50 tries with no summons/ashes.
I kinda liked this boss, but only after equipping the deflect
Other than this I love this fight. No frame issues on ps5 but I see how PC players get nuked by it. That and the triple slash mentioned in the video are the only real flaws I see though, albeit his lights could be changed so that they can't really be seen when you dodge correctly (which is almost always directly into radahn.) I wish that people would start some movement to cause newer players to get over themselves, because almost every non-fps related complaint i've seen is pure skill issue and they get really, REALLY hateful and defensive about it when you tell them something isn't bad because it beat them up.
Jezus, he used to be worse? I already think that this is the worst and hardest boss I've ever faced. Half the time I can't see shit and the other half it feels like his clone attacks come in faster than I can dodge. I absolutely loathe this fight. I killed him in two tries with a shield after spending hours upon hours fighting him without and not getting him below 30%.
-anti-spoiler thumbnail
-has radahn
theres something like that combo that powerstanced running l1 of curved swords has, basically if you poise is too low or too high it will combo, but if its within a certain range it doesnt, might be something like that
I think ER enemies have all poise damage values at 50 and 100, so I don't see why that would be the case. I'm guessing it's an animation thing like sprinting, drinking, attacking would change the stun duration.
@@Sharkamfss almost all of them do but there are some very, like VERY, rare excepsions, very unlikely this boss is like that but idk maybe
Um that attack still combos, if you try to roll the first one the second and third hits combo, and i’m pretty sure i’ve been full combo’ed by all three attacks before, it’s still a problematic attack to the point where you have to deflect or block one of the first two hits to not get true combo’ed. It doesn’t one shot if you get hit by it but it’s still a brutal attack especially when the light pillars are concealing your view of the boss animations. Not sure what version of the game you’re playing on but that’s been my experience on xbox. Also the big light beam explosion that he pulls from the ground still can one shot after his slam attack super combo, but not the other one for some reason.
I do like his first phase, not crazy about the visual mess of the second.
Genuinely a polarizing final boss.
That ain't a fun little tid-bit. That's terrifying! I JUST basked in the glory of defeating him after over 100 deaths. It's funny... Every boss I found incredibly hard just ends up popping up in recommended with 'no hit' in the title. Happiness buff instantly sapped :D
Gave you a like for heing considerate with your title and thumbnail
Me who unknowingly reach the final boss: "THAT'S THE FINAL BOSS?!?" Im sad that it took me this much to reach him, but at least the rest of world wont be easier or faster to finish " i hope so "
I just defeted Radhan with f’in rng and almost every attack is stun you. So no, evety f’in attack is stun you and every combo is “one” shot you. Bad boss.
Radahn is so strong his two versions got nerf
Cool that they nerfed it, I still can't dodge the second slash on the nerfed version LOL
Yeah if you get hit it still hit stuns you enough for him to hit you with the rest of the combo in my experience, I beat Radahn earlier and genuinely felt like it was just lucky more than anything.
@@Ashagagalexactly it feels you need everything to go right in the second phase to beat him. I made the huge mistake of playing the dlc at 190 at ng 7 I made it through but let me tell u it was terrifying the whole way through.
@@Swahps yeah exactly that I got lucky he didn’t do the full screen holy rain move too many times because that move was 1 hitting me from 52 vigor (arouns 1800HP)
Yea I fought him earlier and if you were not already far enough away, you always get hit by the 2nd slash
The 2nd phase of this fight genuinely feels like it's not supposed to be in this game. The attacks are just absolutely insane and the visual clutter makes me feel like im fighting an armored core boss. I absolutely hate the 3 swing attack, and the shadow clone attacks are borderline undodgeable. For the sake of this games health, this boss NEEDS a nerf of some kind. Less health, less damage, ill take anything at this point. I typically try not to use spirit ashes but this boss is really pushing my limits