PORCHE 928 S4 V8, Searching For Lost BHP!
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2023
- This week we have this amazing 928 S4in due to being a bit sluggish, i'm still not convinced on the headlights, but the performace got me beaming from ear to ear!
Here is the owners MK INDY I did a video on:
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I owned one 27years ago. Now I can't stop looking at them.
My favourite car design of all.
To me, these look amazing from any angle, and I even love the gawky headlights.
They are certainly unique, thanks for watching 😁
JDSPorsche here, I'm pleased to see the MAF worked out and what a difference. Just one thing, the instructions for setting them up - it's automatic on a Lambda closed loop car but not on the 87 as it doesn't have an O2 sensor. The blue plugs are where you can take the measurement or without cats at the exit of the tail pipe. You need to adjust CO to 1% by using the potentiometer above the fuse board. The reason is it may have been adjusted for the old MAF. The wings are aluminium by the way and it's evident that the ODO is not working, likely a broken gear wheel (they all do that).
Great to hear from you and thanks so much for your service 👍 we did check the CO and was all good so left it alone! Well spotted on the mileage, that is something he wanted us to look into too. Thanks for watching 😁
I remember visiting John in Cambridge and getting my MAF done. Probably one of the first. It transformed my old S4. Glad you have carried on his work. I remember doing the cog for the odemeter myself, they will lose teeth. The HVAC actuators for the flaps are pneumatic and the diaphragms will split inside. Can even be patched with bicycle innertube repair kit!
Hi. Is the airflow meter usually a problem with the 1992-1995 GTS models as well?
@@jordanmascarenhas7974 absolutely, affects all MAF equipped models.
The headlights were designed that way so they would be washed with the car. I have owned over 10 from 79 to 89. Changing a clutch is so easy you don’t have to pull the trans just the cover and loosen the torque shaft and pull out the twin plate clutch the cars are amazing and deserved it’s car of the year award in 1977 truely a car before it’s time and still completely comfortable in the company of todays super cars. There is no substitute
Very cool car, way ahead of it's time!
This 928 is a prime candidate for dry ice cleaning. It’s amazing what you can remove with that and not damage the vehicle.
It was very tidy underneith, thanks for watching 😁
I owned a manual 928S4 over three decades ago. I remember putting 137,000 km on the car before trading it in for a 928 GTS.
It was a fast car, with excellent brakes, but it had a harsh ride, because it had the sport suspension. When I parted from the car, the steering rack was shot, the differential was making funny noises, the central exhaust was blowing air, the clutch needed replacement, as did the brake discs and pads. I would like to add that the navy blue metallic paint was full of stone chips (the front of the car needed repainting), not to mention the "sanded" windshield. I used to drive the car really hard across the unrestricted German freeways and enjoyed it immensely. My first GTS, which was a definite improvement over the S4, got the same treatment.
Sounds like you got some great use out of yours! Thanks for watching 😁
I regret selling my 1993 triple black 5-speed GTS. Do you still have yours, and is it a manual or automatic?
Lights are a perfect design. Had one for ten years, incredible car, especially driving across Europe.
Incredible car, well ahead of their time 👍
I don't know how old you are, but when the 928s came out the junk that was being driven around, this was a space ship.
I completely agree, we work on alot of late 70s and 80s cars and this is so ahead of it's time, it must have been amazing to see when it came out! I'm the same age as this 928 🤣
Glad you like the 928.
The PopUp Headlights are Unique and perfectly designed. you call it weird , but many many others call them Beautiful.
Exactly, the world would be a boring place if everyone was the same 😁
Tony Levine (sp?) the project manager for the 928 project was a fan of the Lamborgini Miura, the light styling of the 928 is a direct implementation of that.. The only 2 cars I am aware of that have the lights this way. The body is aluminum not plastic.
I can definitely see the resemblance, great info 👍
@@SuperRon Great video btw... Actually the 968 also had a similar headlight. I had someone ask me once how they worked as the pointed to the sky... had to laugh at that. I have a manual, but from what I understand the automatics generally start of in second gear so this might also contribute to the slow off the line feel. I know some put in a "drop down switch" to over come this.
Can't beat the manual version :) I have put 120K miles on mine..
Those fenders are aluminum 😉👍 great car ... wish they still had more people who truly knew how to fix them!
Thanks for watching 😁
A few words that describes the 928’s headlights are “Iconic” and “Unique”. They may not be pretty but you never forget them.
That is certainly true 👍
When you compare the headlight to the Lamborghini Miura in it’s the same look. You’ll love and appreciate the headlights on the 928.
You want to consider doing an intake refresh on the 928. Over the years the seals on bearings perish and rubber gaskets for the plenum degrade.
Will bare that in mind if we have any future problems , it's running sweet at the moment 😁
My absolute dream car.
Guards red with magnolia linen leather with red piping please.
I started work in 1981 in London as 16uear old, a couple of years later I saw a proper braces, stripey shirted yuppie, at the wheel of a 928S in the above spec with the number plate, THE 928S (i assume a dealer demo car?) And instantly fell for the colour ,shape and burble.
Never brave enough to own one, but every man can dream can't they.
Great story, these were so ahead of their time! They still look modern today 40 years later
I had a friend back 20+ years ago had one of these. Her husband had bought it in 85. I believe if I remember right, it was an 82 model.
I tried to buy it from her, but she valued it much to highly for the time. I am in the US, so of course, it was left-hand drive.
Love that decal on the gas lid.😂😅
It's been great hearing everyones stories about these cars, from all around the world! Thanks for watching!
Nice. Always go for a copper tipped distributer cap if you can over the aluminum terminals. Better performance
We did get these from a independent porsche supplier, might be something to look into in they start to become a problem, thanks for watching 👍
My friend has an 88 s4. The thing most people dont understand is that the 928 isnt that great from 0-60; its a beast from 60-150.
It was tipping it down so was wheel spinning everywhere, but once it hooked up it was very fast indeed 😎
na it is fast 5 plus sec. u need to know hot to push it all the way from autolevel 2 and to drive. u guys have no idea how to drive it.
Great video about a lovely car. Noticed that the milometer isn't working, could be the plastic gears. The design of the 928 has aged so well; when you compare it to many of the cars from the time it was developed, it was light years ahead.
Thanks for watching 😁 yes that was another one of the jobs we were going to look into, but he ended up selling the car in the end
Great to see you back with regular content Ron.
Thanks, I am trying 😁
I don't know if I've ever seen a white 928. Holy shit, white really sets it apart a TON. These wheels look good but some dark grey Fuchs would match it's look great. They run really well with a twin screw supercharger on them with supporting mods.
The owner has got the origional S4 wheels hes putting back on for the completly original look 😎
Great Video, well done.
Thanks for watching 😁
Really enjoyed the clip. That engine is certainly tight in there and I wouldn't fancy doing any headwork on it . Shame that it was wet for the final run.
Thanks for watching 😁
The Auto in D pulls away in 2nd gear, you need to drop the Auto selector into 2 it then starts in 1st gear off the line (Porsche logic in there somewhere)
Because its a Mercedes 4 speed auto. They all start in 2nd, but properly adjusted will change it 1st with a quick prod [not kickdowm]. Or pull lever to 2 when stopped, it will start in first. Can take back to drive or 3 and it will still start off in 1st. They have a very high stall speed, so the auto is sluggish, really need to use the lever and if any one read the manual, Porsche say keep in 3 around town,
It does have a LAUNCH feature.
At rest, move auto all the way back to 1st, then forward into 2nd. Floor it and it starts in 1st !!! Leaving 2 black stripes on the road. Muahh harr harrr 😈😈😈
It'll launch in first when you mash the pedal in D. That's what it should do.
Alot of people driving auto 928's fail to activate the kickdown switch at the very bottom of throttle travel. If you push it to the floor and activate the switch...you will be quite surprised.
my 1985 928s auto is lacking performance as well....all new plugs wires. I think the transmission does not drop down correctly but i will look into air flow also.
Yes definitely worth a look. Thanks for watching 😁
le-sigh... almost got one.. but got outbid.... can't compete with someone who wants a 91 GT, along with 2 early 911 turbos.. But tis life... so got a Challenger Scat Pack with the hellcat brakes.
Thanks for watching 😁
Often electrical gremlins are bad grounds that just need a clean
Yes always a good place to start 👍
Loved the video, love the car. I’m deep into a 928 restoration right now, if you dare take a look…. I’m learning on the job :)
Great cars, well before their time! Thanks for watching 😁
If we lived closer to each other, I've got a MGB GTV8 that needs checking over. It had an engine rebuild before I got the car, but now has a noisy lifter at the rear. Oil pressure is good.
We do look at all sorts here, had a spitfire, Sprite, loads of minis but not a MGB as yet 😁
Air filter should be curved side upwards 😊Good job, hope he was happy
Customer was over the moon 😁 thanks for watching
You said the fenders were plastic. No, that's aluminum. Same with the doors, roof, and hood. The rear quarter panels and hatch are steel. The bumpers are plastic, and they were the first of their kind in any automobile. The rest of the manufacturers were using surf board bumpers or chrome, and the 928 was a poly clamshell in '78!
The roof is actually steel. I really wish they had at least made the sunroof panel out of aluminum... it's way more heavy than it needs to be.
Interesting clip
Thanks for watching 😁
Great video: Although I would have liked to have seen a pre and post dynotest with full torque and power curves... I warrant if it was necessary to have changed leads and plugs after such few miles - it would have added a large bill for the customer. The distibuter caps perhaps. Fuel/air filter absolutely... Rather dated technology but interior looks very nice. It must have been retrimmed. With the odometer not working it is certainly difficult to decide what useage it has really had.. I would say it needs a good workover. Some underbody parts look a bit crappy. As they seem to have the value now it would be worth doing.. Of course any decent modern vehicle would leave it for dust - imagine the 928 against a Type R Civic for example? I know where I would spend the money. I had an 928 S2 back in the day - a comfortable but lumbering underperforming vehicle - and it cost an extreme amount of money to maintain..
I agree the headlights (in the up position) look ugly and will be really prone to stone chip damage... Wet road handling would be an accident waiting to happen...
It would be really cool to do dyno runs before and after on jobs like this, unfortunately we don't have the facilities to that here. Thanks for watching 😁
I had an S2 and now have an S4 and a Honda Civic xk8 type R, the Civic eats it for breakfast but I would much sooner drive round in the 928, it not always about the speed
Geez. I counted that 0-60 at 12 seconds, after the HT leads, dizzies and plugs!
It was a slug! Afterwards halfed that and the first 2 seconds were sat spinning 🤣
Fortunate to have an S4 auto. 0 to 62mph around 5.9. They're quick enough and handle well enough to go like this..😆😅😆
Thanks for watching 😁
I want laser beams on there. Take it to the limit 🎵
Manual is a completely different beast…
I can imagine 👍
12:20 The engine mounts are shot.
I had me one of those 928 regular version and a ford Taurus sho blew my doors off very disappointing
Any update on the Zafira GSI Super Ron?
Still not got round to doing the jobs yet, will be sure to update when I do 😁
If the headlights are not your cup of tea, I removed a relay just above the fuse panel which will turn on the sidelights without raising the headlights. They will only raise on dipped and full. Did it about 20 something years ago so don't ask for a tutorial :)
That's definitely a mod I'd look into if it was mine! Thanks for watching 😁
@talon53 if you ask me the headlights look just like the lights on the Lamborghini Miura’s. I think they look beautiful.
@@jasonknight5863 Yes they are fine. But my 1988 used to raise the headlights when all I wanted was sidelight say when it was overcast. I wish I had a 928 now. I had 2 on the road at one time. 1987 and 1988 S4s.
@@talon53 ahh i see. Well you can always buy another. Don’t you just love the build quality in one. It’s built like a tank or Mercedes G-Wagon sports car with the way the doors closed. They have doubled in price the last 5 years.
@@jasonknight5863 I took mine to the Nurburgring twice. Sold it last year as needed restoration. I could talk all day about the 928. They were my passion for many years. But life moves on.
That's the weirdest MAF and placement I've seen!
And the throttle body is even under that! Thanks for watching 😁
Need to have a switch to turn on the headlights when they are retracted.
That would be funny 🤣
@@SuperRon do you think the owner would go for it?
@@therealboofighter he's pretty eccentric, so most probably 🤣
What happened to the compression test ?
We didn't do a compression test, when we found the poor state of the ignition system we pursued that route.
Does it have a water cooled Alternator like the Mercedes-Benz S class from this era too? Why don't you have anything on the fenders to protect them and gloves to protect the car?
If you watch my other videos on larger jobs we completely wrap up the front ends for protection, on smaller jobs like this we are very meticulous on being careful and have never marked a car yet 😁
oil sweat?
Oil leak?
Cool car but that fuse box is just silly.
That's all they had at the time, old school technology!
The fuse box is actually quite practical.
Please pronounce Porsche properly!....SMH......
And by the way, the hood, fenders and doors, are aluminum.
We don't add the -ah here, neither do the owners. thanks for watching 😁
Thumbs down just for "porsh".
Local dialects, none of the owners add the -ah either 😁
SPEEDOMETER IS NOT WORKING BRO AND ITS NOT 136 ITS 436388 MLS
Yes that's another job on the list to fix, very common problem on these 👍