@@r.pizzamonkey7379 Sam Raimi's Aunt May was perfect and Rosemary captured the character perfectly from the comics. Aunt May now doesn't even look like a Aunt.
“Why the f-k do the robot arms want to finish the fusion reactor, what do they care?” As Ock pointed out, that’s the reason they were built and programmed, it’s literally the only thing they care about
I feel so honored to be able to come back to this video 4 years after it was released and finally say that I fall into the category of depressed alcoholic college student
Fun fact: Sam Raimi didnt want to put Venom in the movie at all and was super against it but the studio literally told him they would have someone else make the movie if he didnt do it. So, Raimi intentionally picked the least scary and least fitting actor he could possibly find for Venom lmao.
He didn’t necessarily pick him because he’s the least scary actor to play the role, he just didn’t really get into the later comics with venom in them, he said he didn’t understand the character, so he did his own take, a guy that sort of mirrors Peter and easily could of been how Peter had turned out if he had a different upbringing and set of morals.
@@jarrav8186 I said he did his own take.. I never said anything about how venom actually is.. what I’m saying is look at Sam raimi’s Eddie Brock, he’s sort of a lot like Peter Parker in a way except he clearly has a different moral compass, and no one like aunt may or uncle Ben to teach him what’s right, it doesn’t get to be explored as much as it could of due to all that’s going on in the movie(the same can be said about all the villains and their subplots)
Thank you, lol had me rereading my comment wondering where I said anything like that lol (he deleted his comment, so there’s no context to what this comment is anymore lol)
My favorite part of this review is that it triggered so many people that Cosmonaut still gets comments calling him a disney shill on almost every Spider-Man review of his to this day almost 5 years later. That's the kind of engagement money can't buy
I mean I don't know if he's any of those things, I just think some of his critiques are bad and almost approaching a cinemasins video level of criticism quality.
@@Asiniesi mean this video is basically bait anyway its funnier to read some of the raimi fans in the comments going apeshit than to rewatch the video
I mean he gets points completely wrong. Like mad that Aunt May didn’t automatically forgive Peter after saying “Im responsible for what happened too”. That’s his most egregious one. That and misremembering scenes (Peter wasn’t walking to school he was going after MJ after see dad berrated her). And he uses all this as evidence of the “new” (aka Disney) movies are better. Anyone can make a bad review to bait people into getting mad, but that doesn’t somehow mean the mad people are wrong.
Spider-Man 2: Mary Jane leaves her fiance to be with Peter Spider-Man 3: Mary Jane leaves Peter to be with Harry Osborn Peter: *Surprised Pikachu face*
@jimmy just jeremy Peter wasn't there for her. Just like everything else in his life he put the city above his own priorities. She deserved better, even if he was a good man. Sometimes things just don't work. It's selfish to expect a woman to stay loyal to a man she never sees, one who seems to have no investment in her life. Peter in many ways rejected Mary Jane before she cut it off. He was the one who wasn't loyal. These are the realities of adult life.
@@dehlanshandirkayr6182 I don't agree. Relationships should be more solid. I just thing that circumstantially she looks like a ho because two relationships in a row didn't work for her.
I agree with Marcus. I fucking love these movies _because_ of how corny and cheesy they are, and how they don't take themselves too seriously. I feel like they perfectly capture the feel of the Spiderman comics - just non-stop campy fun with moments of quote-on-quote "serious" dialogue that in retrospect sounds corny and is tonally consistent with the rest of the story.
While I agree that the Raimi films are overrated, their portrayal of Uncle Ben knocked it out of the park. It was almost pathetic watching Amazing Spider-Man try to redo the character by just making him angry all the time and making his death scene laughable.
This is exactly it. These movies were intentionally campy because they're portraying comic book characters, but there's very subtle character acting in there too to add a touch of realism and relatability to the characters.
In comics spiderman shooted his webs put of his hands If somebody over stresses the Web would the glands come out Because all of our glands are connected Right? Especially the train scene It's like Daredevil can't see but has a eye in his ass Or Tony Stark makes his suits just because his heart can do so Yeah I know it's weird But that's how a comic reader would see the movie
hitop would wreck him because many of this guys points just literally dont make any sense..... hes missing the point of so much shit idk how much longer i can listen to this. hitop ive found is a way better critique and provides real insight on the movies
I really fucking hate this whole trend of titles being so antagonistic to the viewer, like it implies you're wrong about a subjective opinion. So arrogant. His tone throughout this video isn't much better. I mean it isn't condescending but everything is phrased objectively.
@@gloriousporpoise9731 We don't see it yet or know the details, and Sandman character actually work by story and acting perspective but Sony was fool enough by add Venom/Eddie Brock since the third movie already have stacked character.
@@ban66a1 what I'm saying is that I doubt we would have gotten a vulture as good as Michael Keaton's one as he's one of the superhero film villains in the past decade
Travis Saner nah, raimi movies are cheesy but unintentionally, homecoming and far from home are intentionally comedic because that’s the tone of the MCU
@@WaffleHouseHD Incorrect. All of the cheese in the Raimi movies are done 100% intentionally. Raimi is a HUGE comic book fan and wanted to capture the feel of the older comic books.
As a scientist (Mechanical Engineer, IT Researcher, Energy analyst), I can tell you that '...back to formula' only means start from the beginning. Norman was worried about the time and procedures it'll take before progress is made again. Hence he tested it on himself. Love the trilogy BTW.
@@CoryTheNorm But that's just other people's opinions just like his. People are allowed to dislike it if they don't agree. And there are many reasons not to. Many people like the Sam Raimi movies. So it's understandable. I seriously don't understand why he's allowed to give his opinion but others aren't? If people are attacking him that's wrong ofcourse I personally don't agree with most things he said but I don't care because that's just his opinion. But I still disliked the video because I think the points he made are just stupid and not well thought out. People are allowed to dislike something if they don't like it. What's the big deal?
@@CoryTheNorm If that is true then I can't say much. But even then his video isn't that good to me either. He nitpicks a lot and doesn't seem to understand why people like the movies. So I disliked it for that reason. And to be fair the title of the video is exactly how the video is. So idk. The worst thing then toxic Spiderman fans are toxic Cosmanount fans. What's next? Cosmanount is gonna insult your entire race or family. "But guys it's okay because it's just his opinion." Like idc if it's his opinion I don't like it and I'm gonna give my opinion by disliking the video. Also him having a very punchable voice doesn't really help either. I don't think this guy went through puberty. And by your logic you can't say anything negative against me either because it's just my opinion. Like nah. You can say that you dislike me if you want to idc.
Doctor Octopus' plan makes sense: 1. Doc said earlier in the movie that the arms were programmed to finish the science experiment. 2. Doc said earlier in the movie that the inhibitor chip prevents the arms from taking over him. 3. Inhibitor chip is destroyed and arms take over. 4. Arms programming hasn't changed and so they tell Doc to finish the science experiment. Note: This comment isn't an agree or disagree with the video. It's simply a correction of one thing you stated in the video that was wrong.
I wanted to explain that too. I work with AI and nowadays AI is still pretty basic, so it just have a goal to complete and it will try whatever it can to accomplish it, just as a mice trying to get out of a maze.
Although I think that creating a fusion reactor would be so huge that it would already be motivation enough. Like evolving humans into giant lizards that can regrow their limbs would be totally amazing. Endless energy and cure to everything? Nah not motivating enough.
I think we have to remember that these movies are based off of comics. The campiness works. The movies back then had the heart & soul of the comics with the campiness included. Now it seems like they are made on an assembly line using a formula. They’ve lost the campiness too…and replaced it with bad jokes.
It doesn’t always work though that’s what he’s saying. It’s so distracting at sone points you forget some scenes should be tense, it can get to be way too much through this series and it didn’t work 100%
It's not campy because it's based off the comics, it's campy because that's just Sam Raimi's style. He's always been known for making silly low/mid budget movies
@@maltostado did you even read the comment you're replying to? This is the first time you showed up in this thread so it clearly wasn't directed to you.
yeah screw people for liking a film that is well made, has personality, well defined characters, levity, internal drama as well having extremely compelling action sequences, i hate those fanboys!
Idk, I felt like Aunt May’s reaction towards Peter’s confession about uncle Ben’s death was understandable. Sure maybe it was a bit cold but having to learn that your husbands death could’ve been prevented is a lot to mentally and emotionally process. Plus early in the movie it was established that she was still grieving over Ben’s death. Her grief is still fresh and I felt like her leaving Peter was her way of communicating that she needed time and space to process Peter’s sad confession. Great video btw.
Also, Aunt May isn’t always a saintly mother figure. She used to constantly complain and believe Spider-Man was a bad person in the comics. She also tried marrying Doc Ock, etc.
Also Mary Jane was justifiably mad at Peter, he really did kept making it all about himself and Spiderman when she tried to tell him her problems, Cosmo seems to just want every single person to be nice to Peter all the time no matter the circumstances.
@@pats3212 Uh no. When she is complaining about the bad reviews, Peter emphasizes with her, telling her it's alright and a part of the job. She gets mad because he uses his experiences as Spiderman to help her out.
yeah i loved that sene and i was glad that she didnt just blow it off and say something like: dont worry peter, uncle ben would have been proud of you"
Seeing this again 5 years later and it's just as funny. every time i rewatch a raimi movie i remember those random background characters or something else you mentioned LOL
@@mrswiggleface9388 how is "what?" Sarcastic it's literally just a question no hint of sarcasm at all. May I ask if you even understand sarcasm I dont think you do
Sam Raimi is the only director who accurately showed Steve Ditko and John Romita artistic style in live action. The problem with other comic book movies is that they are afraid of being comic booky.
I love that they didn’t stray away from some of the corniness of the comics. Like “we’ll meet again, Spider-Man!!” Is totally a 60s comic book line, but it’s so fun to hear and see.
that's exactly why I love the trilogy. I used to read a few issues of the 60s comic books when I visited my grandparents house on Sundays as a kid. And they managed to capture the feel of them BRILLIANTLY. Is it cheesy? Hell yeah. But I honestly think that was the _point._
“Raimi Trilogy - Worse Than You Remember” Me: I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye. (To Elaborate: I was just joking, y’all don’t have to get mad in the comments.)
I can explain the back to formula bit. The general tells him he has two weeks to have a successful human trial or the federal funding will be pulled, which could cause serious financial damage to the company. Going "back to formula" basically means they need to return to a pre-animal trial stage.
Shravan Kumar I have to agree. Personally I think the best Spider-Man movie is The Amazing Spider-Man but the best portrayal of Spider-Man is Tom Holland. Now if you was to take Tom Holland’s Spider-Man and place him in the Amazing Spider-Man story line, that would be the best Spider-Man.
@@ProsperingNerd808 I have to completely disagree with you Adrew's spiderman was a dick, and he didn't even fit the look and personality of Peter Parker, he was some skateboarder who wasn't picked on, the polar opposite of Peter Tom Holland is a gem thats for sure, his age, goofiness, and personality matches Peter Parker extremly well But Toby is always gonna be the first person who captured the struggling nerd in high school living with bullies, he was nerdy and pretty relatable, he in my opinion is the father of all spider men, but maybe not the best
I feel like Aunt May's response to Peter in *Spider-Man 2* is one of the most authentic human moments in the franchise. Throughout all three films she's been 100% in his corner. When other people were down on him Aunt May was there to remind him that he's a good person and worthy of love and admiration. This is because she genuinely believes this to be so. Up until he confesses to her, Peter could do no wrong in her eyes. Also, keep in mind that throughout the movie her life has been on a steady decline. Her husband of decades has only been dead a couple of years, the bills are racking up, her savings are running dry, and she's about to lose her home. About the only constant in her life at this point that's any good is Peter and her unwavering faith in his inherent goodness. So when Peter comes in and confesses to her that his selfishness was directly responsible for the chain of events that lead to her husband's murder, the last bit of goodness she had in her life has been snatched away. How else was May supposed to react? Her nephew, whom up to this point she's only ever seen as a saint, has just told her that her husband died because Peter didn't bother stopping Ben's killer at the place Peter wasn't supposed to be at in the first place. If anything her response was more measured than she had any reason to be.
Yea I think Marcus really misses the point or is just really nitpicking to make a point about how the raimi movies aren't as good as people remember. It's the same with uncle ben too, uncle ben isn't telling Peter to not fight (Uncle Ben even says Flash probably deserved it), he's telling him to be careful and to not turn into someone he'll regret becoming, in other words be a good person and do the right thing.
The Dashboard I think Aunt May would be too nurturing to suddenly dismiss or chide Peter on the news she can faintly believe (Logically, a lot of people would ignore and put up no fight against a man holding a gun who went as far as to threaten a man’s life to steal money). I don’t see Aunt May suddenly acting like Peter had psychic powers and could do much to prevent the guy killing someone after the fact
For real! That was frustrating to watch, but it's human!When I watch the Dark Knight Rises and Alfred says "Bruce, I lied about Rachel's decision to protect your heart because I love you and I just want you to be free" and Bruce is like "Hey Alfred go fuck yourself," I don't see that as a plot flaw. I get it. And eventually, he learns. Just like Aunt May.
Because he’s straight up wrong at some points. His whole “aunt may is a jerk” part is literally missing all the context of the scenes he talks about lol. When he says she’s a dick, the scene he shows in the background is legit her giving Peter money when her house is about to be foreclosed
@Hooty HOOT HOOT my spider sense is tingling *if ya know what I mean* This is for you Oh boy yeah YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED hello my dear Ah rosie I love this boy You know, I'm something of a scientist myself Hey freakshow you ain't goin nowhere
“So I didn’t like a couple things about this trilogy.” Raimi fans: *sweaty fat reddit kids fuel up there biased machine 2000 trying not to accept the fact that these films are a messy corny sack of shit*
You can say what you want but when I look at J.K Simmons, I see J. Jonah Jameson lol he was a great casting choice. “ I resent that! Slander is spoken. Print is libel.” 😂😂😂
I was talking to my wife about this yesterday. Idk who in the Hell can top J.K. Simmons' performance as J.J. Jameson. He brought that character to life, which isn't something I can say about most of the comics-inspired movies.
This movie was my life as an 8 year old in 2002. Saw the movie like 15 times, played all the games... was obsessed. .. The MCU movies are way better. Old movies just aren't good...The effects make it impossible to take seriously. The acting too.. ugh..
The thing is, Raimi’s movies are by far the most quotable. Even if they haven’t aged well, the trilogy movies are undeniably the most memorable. From “I’m somewhat of a scientist myself”, “Pizza time”, and all of Willam Da foe’s lines are great plus Bully Maguire’s sequence is great. The modern spider man movies may be better from a film view but Raimi’s trilogy will always be the one people remember
I think there's a massive difference between a good film and an enjoyable film, the Raimi trilogy does NOT have good movies but fucking hell they are so funny to watch
I’m surprised how much this comment section has calmed down. Honestly thought it would be getting those stupid ass spam comments till the end of UA-cam.
Galaxy_Edge He knows that, he watched the movie. He’s saying that the fact that someone would hold a grudge against someone who he BELIEVES has killed his father isn’t petty.
The point of the video is to address the short comings of the films, even if he finds them enjoyable. I like them too, but they just don't stand up to The Dark Knight, Infinity War, Homecoming, and Into the Spiderverse
just rewatched this trilogy after spider verse, and it still a really good spidey story. then uncle ben moments hit every time we see peter having to his relations and well being for the sake of the city it hits home. even the minimal dialogue is effective. i find this version of peter to be the most realsitic version an awkward nerd who only has his aunt his best friend and gf as a social circle, struggles to work and do college while being spidey and bears it all.
It seems strange to call out Harry turning away from the conversation between Peter and his father. He explains it himself shortly after: "He pretty much wants to adopt you" Harry didn't check out bc he was a sim. He checked out bc he had nothing to contribute to their conversation and his jealousy was making him uncomfortable. That's a pretty consistent part of his character.
@@isaacmartinez2359 damn dude he wrote a pretty good explanation for one scene in a movie, not even pouring his heart out for this defence, he's not being paid shit (I apologise I'm getting paid to defend this guy)
@@Aryan-qv5qk you can make up reason all you want, just like how I can make up reasons on what they could have had Harry do instead of mentally check out - Say “ill catch you inside” - Wave to friends and join them - Say bye to his father and let him talk to Peter - have a teacher call his name My point, as well as the video’s in making this off hand comment is that Harry is not need for the scene. He serves no purpose other than to make a way too formal introduction for a new character, which you could have done and then promptly leave the screen so he doesn’t take up room in the frame, or just be there on set as long in general. Is this an egregious sin? No. It’s more likely just a result of the script not taking into consideration how it would look in person for this conversation to have happened. It’s a trivial joke to make fun of the movie for. Which is why I found it weird that someone would go out of their way to defend when there are plenty of other points for someone to make about this semi-critique video. I find that Rami fans always do this, they often defend points that don’t need to be defended because they are just facts about how the movies are. They’ll get mad about others pointing out how corny the movie can be despite later saying that it is the appeal for them.
@@ardentdiplomat6662 but we not talking about favourtie spidey. We talking about the trilogy. I've not met a single person who does not like this trilogy and do not think that the first 2 movies are masterclass in superhero movies. Without a doubt, maguire spidey with x men trilogy set the standard for modern superhero movies.
Something I always like from 1 is when Goblin is choking out JJJ demanding where he gets the Spider-Man pics and JJJ immediately tries to keep him away from Peter. Like he could have said “oh this new intern takes them.” But no, he goes “I don’t know, they come by mail.”
I watched these films when i was 6, i watched them again now that im 24, they aren't any worse and they're just as good as i remember. In fact i like Spider-Man 2 a lot more now than i used to.
People getting mad that he called them cheesy forget that Sam Raimi's whole style is making cheesy comedies with horror aspects. His most famous movies are Evil Dead 1-2, Army of Darkness, and Drag Me To Hell. He's clearly going for cheesy cornball fun.
@@shuiichii5517 no I meant sony. sony forced Sam raimi to put venom and he didn't know that much about him Sam raimi just wanted sandman vs spiderman not venom
@@leedoes3380 Of course I watched evil dead,the grudge,hercules,crawl,the jungle book,the possession,poltergeist and don't breathe. I used to be a big fan of horror and Sam raimi makes tons of movies
Honestly Aunt May wasn't an asshole, her reaction was pretty understandable because she was still griefing about Uncle Ben's death so her, discovering that her nephew kind of was responsible was a understandable reaction
@@kevaughnhenderson8478 I never asked for it nor complained that it wasn’t in the game. Yes it’s my favorite suit in the game but if i had to choose a movie suit I’d pick tasm2. I prefer the skinner spiderman build and the big lenses. I would never send them death threats.
@Tcb bct it's actually confirmed and well known that the they're team was threatening. I don't how that makes a dumbass. But your the one who seem to be delusional. Now don't go sending death threats now like the rest of the fan base.
Looking back at it now, it was really weird when Uncle Ben talked about how with great power comes great responsibility, but then went on to have a five-minute rant about the white man's burden before finally dying. I guess it really was a different time.
Ok, is he not aloud to think that the newer movies are better. Personally I love the MCU Spider-Man and I don’t really remember the Sam rami movies being that good
@Jim Johnson So true 😂 This can work out. Spider-Man is a HUGE sandbox to play around in. They just have to play their cards right. They should look to Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Spectacular Spider-Man, Spider-Verse, and PS4 Spider-Man as their inspiration. They're basically perfect! I don't think Holland should crossover with Venom, because their characters are different ages. Sony should just proceed to have Tom faceoff against the Sinister Six. Sony should release a statement saying Venom takes place in the same universe as The Amazing Spider-Man movies and have Marc Webb return to direct the third one, and then we can have these two characters crossover. Sam Raimi should come back and direct Spider-Man 4, which takes place 10 years after Spider-Man 3 and explores an older and more experienced Spider-Man a lá Logan. Finally, we can have a live-action Spider-Verse with Tobey, Andrew, and Tom; a Sony equivalent to the Avengers. From there we can get Miles Morales, Gwen Stacy, Jessica Drew, Ben Reilly, Miguel O' Hara, and other REALLY INTERESTING SPIDER-CHARACTERS!
(Jim Johnson) People can be fans of characters without screaming like an insane fangirl. I personally love the MCU Spider-Man, though I know it’s less comic accurate than the other movies.
@@Hecken_Bruiser tbh at the time I was like 8 and I just assumed he was a prefect or something. I didn't really think much about him, I was more excited to see Spiderman than anything rly
Na it really doesn't. There's plenty of shit talking in this video that makes it seem like the movie has plenty of flaws, but its manipulation on the part of the creator. If you actually watch the trilogy after watching this video, its quite clear how biased this guy is, and how he just makes up a bunch of shit as reasons for why the movies are bad, just because he personally doesn't like them. A lazy critique targeted towards a lazy audience
@@mjfan8704 ahahah i'm not a fan boy of anything. It's just that the video creator is making up a bunch of B.S, like his comment about spider man beating people up, even though he mostly just catches people into his webs and only beats people when he's got no other choice. Also he's bitching about the science of a movie that has SPIDERMAN in it.....it's a goofy superhero movie and he's criticising it for being.....a goofy superhero movie. It's like yelling at a pear because it's not an apple. His points about aunt may were so b.s. When she says "you loved him, and he loved you" She is (obviously) saying that whatever happened doesn't matter, what matters is that they cared for each other, even though Pete and uncle ben had some heated moments, it doesn't really matter. Her speeches in the second and third movies are really sweet. There are youtubers who actually have discussed these scenes and talked about why they are great. This guy just implies that certain moments are bad without explaining why. Like a school kid telling his friends that "yugioh is better than pokemon" when I watched this video a year ago i was gullible to actually take his word for it, and was a little sad that (they arrn't as good as i remember), but i just rewatched them, then came across this video again, and remembered watching it previously and now seeing how wrong he is, and that this video is just a bunch of shit talking This youtuber is just making money off internet losers who love to bash normal, genuine character films which have since been replaced by the most cringe movies like gardiens of the galaxy (the soundtrack my god, please kill me)
@@suchalad Yeah, all of that still doesn't take away the fact that you're a fanboy. Nothing wrong with that. It's just that many of you get VERY defensive when it comes to things you like. So defensive, it's almost as if the ones criticizing the thing you like are the worst people to ever grace the Earth since Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin. Just saying.
@@mjfan8704 I said the dude was lying and shit talking. Most humans do those things at least a few times a week, so no. You're just saying that in an attempt to rile me up, which i think is sad for you. goodluck
Me and my friend have been going to the new AMC theatrical re releases of the Spiderman movies (they’re currently doing Tobey’s trilogy, then Andrew’s, the finishing with Tom’s) and we feel the exact opposite. We’ve gone to see Tobey’s Spiderman in and 2 thus far (Spiderman 3 is next week) and felt they were better than we remember as kids and actually incredibly soulful movies. We think these feel more like stories while the latest marvel movies feel more like corporate projects or products. They’re simpler than the latest marvel multiverse stuff but somehow tenfold more meaningful in its storytelling. The current marvel stuff feels a little more hollow/sterile. Our takeaways so far upon revisiting at least.
This is EXACTLY what me and my brother have done! Not only did I realize how much I liked Spider-Man 2, but that I love it in a different way now that I'm an adult. As a kid I love the fight on the train scene, as an adult I feel more when the people hold onto him and lift him up. I am glad I'm not alone in this. The problem with this review (or 1 of them) is that it's easy to make fun of something good, it is difficult to praise it.
Sam Rami did one thing so absurdly correct it makes me forgive every bad decision:
He cast JK Simmons as J Jonah Jamison
Sam raimi made plenty of good decisions
*Ms Brandt. Bring me a violin*
In terms of casting i think sam raimi did perfectly with JJ, goblin, and Uncle Ben.
@@sv32099 That's true. Personally not a big fan of the Tobey or Aunt May casting, but the other key players were all good
@@r.pizzamonkey7379 Sam Raimi's Aunt May was perfect and Rosemary captured the character perfectly from the comics. Aunt May now doesn't even look like a Aunt.
Cosmonaut: I still love these movies
Comments: This doesn't change anything
Mace Face he's like it because it's goofy yeah that's it he don't see a movie as a movie he's only seen the movies like a freakin joke
@@spideyblox138 these movies are a joke lmfao
@@salarzx62090 mcu movies is a joke LMAO everything is a joke in mcu thats the joke lmao
@@spideyblox138 not as much as a joke as the fucking Raimi trilogy lmfao
@@spideyblox138 overrated schlock
One of the worst things about the trilogy is that the butler didn’t tell harry that peter was innocent until probably the worse possible time
True, like why did the butler have to wait so long to finally tell Harry.
RealReverse Because otherwise the movies would be worse than the amazing spiderman movies...
@@sorrymans_nothot5037 not even close
RealReverse True, amazing spiderman movies are too bad, youd have to reach logan paul suicide forest to get that bad.
SorryMans_NotHot hey hey, Logan did his punishment he’s mature now, but I do agree
“Why the f-k do the robot arms want to finish the fusion reactor, what do they care?”
As Ock pointed out, that’s the reason they were built and programmed, it’s literally the only thing they care about
Good point daddy
Good job NERD!
Good work sigma
Womp womp
I love how these comments are angry at you for being right
Yeah maybe sometimes it's cheesy
But you can't have *pizza time* without the good cheese first
Lmao
Goddayum 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It’s pizza time
Tony Toons right
Tony Toons Underrated comment
So the butler didn't tell Harry that spiderman was innocent for 2 movies. He's the true villain.
I F#CKING AGREE DOOOOD
and...where the hell was he for two movies?
wabbu labbu dub dub mackay 2 movies though? Really?
Agreed
@@LeadersOfAFreeMind He was in Spider-Man 1, rewatch
" I don't want your opinion, I want pictures of Spider-Man!!! "
Didn't want to ruin the number
I remember that scene (profile pic)
*_You serious_*
THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT
Profile pic checks out
I feel so honored to be able to come back to this video 4 years after it was released and finally say that I fall into the category of depressed alcoholic college student
I feel you bro
I’ve completed my arc from naive 11 year old
Booze is overrated. Give it up.
was coming here to comment this
Oh god, same
Fun fact: When Willem Defoe said "It's cold.", that wasn't in the script and was his actual reaction to the metal touching his skin.
I think we all know that by now
fun fact grass is green
did you know spider-man is peter parker
I always thought that. His reaction seemed a little too genuine to be simply acting lol
@@themanwhosenameisbean9253 I didn’t know that
Fun fact: Sam Raimi didnt want to put Venom in the movie at all and was super against it but the studio literally told him they would have someone else make the movie if he didnt do it. So, Raimi intentionally picked the least scary and least fitting actor he could possibly find for Venom lmao.
He didn’t necessarily pick him because he’s the least scary actor to play the role, he just didn’t really get into the later comics with venom in them, he said he didn’t understand the character, so he did his own take, a guy that sort of mirrors Peter and easily could of been how Peter had turned out if he had a different upbringing and set of morals.
@@jarrav8186 He never said that was what Venom was like
@@jarrav8186 I said he did his own take.. I never said anything about how venom actually is.. what I’m saying is look at Sam raimi’s Eddie Brock, he’s sort of a lot like Peter Parker in a way except he clearly has a different moral compass, and no one like aunt may or uncle Ben to teach him what’s right, it doesn’t get to be explored as much as it could of due to all that’s going on in the movie(the same can be said about all the villains and their subplots)
@@jarrav8186 you need to read the guys comment again. He actually said raimi did his own take on venom as he didn't have the comic knowledge
Thank you, lol had me rereading my comment wondering where I said anything like that lol (he deleted his comment, so there’s no context to what this comment is anymore lol)
The skeleton bomb only works on non main characters
Plot Armour!!
Plot twist : not all of goblin's bomb were as powerful as that ...he had bombs of many categories
Because plot reasons
@@visic3091 But why would he not use the OP skeleton bomb every time?
Yes, this is this is the law of film bullshit, a constant in the universe, only golb and the 6 month old bread in my pantry will outlast this truth.
My favorite part of this review is that it triggered so many people that Cosmonaut still gets comments calling him a disney shill on almost every Spider-Man review of his to this day almost 5 years later. That's the kind of engagement money can't buy
The comment right below yours is exactly that, god that's funny.
I mean I don't know if he's any of those things, I just think some of his critiques are bad and almost approaching a cinemasins video level of criticism quality.
@@Asiniesi mean this video is basically bait anyway its funnier to read some of the raimi fans in the comments going apeshit than to rewatch the video
your parents dont love you
I mean he gets points completely wrong.
Like mad that Aunt May didn’t automatically forgive Peter after saying “Im responsible for what happened too”. That’s his most egregious one. That and misremembering scenes (Peter wasn’t walking to school he was going after MJ after see dad berrated her).
And he uses all this as evidence of the “new” (aka Disney) movies are better.
Anyone can make a bad review to bait people into getting mad, but that doesn’t somehow mean the mad people are wrong.
Spider-Man 2: Mary Jane leaves her fiance to be with Peter
Spider-Man 3: Mary Jane leaves Peter to be with Harry Osborn
Peter: *Surprised Pikachu face*
Well MJ was like that in the comics too, so is not Raimi's film in particular apparently.
Don't talk about Spiderman 3, please?...
If she can leave someone for you,then she can leave for someone too.
@jimmy just jeremy Peter wasn't there for her. Just like everything else in his life he put the city above his own priorities. She deserved better, even if he was a good man. Sometimes things just don't work. It's selfish to expect a woman to stay loyal to a man she never sees, one who seems to have no investment in her life. Peter in many ways rejected Mary Jane before she cut it off. He was the one who wasn't loyal. These are the realities of adult life.
@@dehlanshandirkayr6182 I don't agree. Relationships should be more solid. I just thing that circumstantially she looks like a ho because two relationships in a row didn't work for her.
Critics: "The Raimi trilogy is silly and cheesy!"
Raimi trilogy fans: Yes.
He says that he loves the fact these movies are silly. He prefaces the whole thing with his opinion that he loves the movies
At the beginning of his Andrew Garfield video, he talks about those movies compared to these and he says these ones are a lot better.
I agree with Marcus. I fucking love these movies _because_ of how corny and cheesy they are, and how they don't take themselves too seriously. I feel like they perfectly capture the feel of the Spiderman comics - just non-stop campy fun with moments of quote-on-quote "serious" dialogue that in retrospect sounds corny and is tonally consistent with the rest of the story.
@@PayondeAwsome He bullies the fuck out of their silliness.
Ohh YES!! 💖
Bruh I think we can all agree though that Sam Rami uncle Ben is best uncle Ben.
Shane Brock The fact that homecoming doesn’t feature uncle Ben just makes this statement more true.
While I agree that the Raimi films are overrated, their portrayal of Uncle Ben knocked it out of the park. It was almost pathetic watching Amazing Spider-Man try to redo the character by just making him angry all the time and making his death scene laughable.
I know. At least he didn’t kill himself like the angry uncle Ben
I don't know, I found MCU Uncle Ben's performance quite compelling.
@@GlaurungTheGreat same
The green goblin jump scare was actually added in by the editors as a joke, but Raimi liked it and went with it.
Source?
@@LincolnAKAVenox just go with it
Bravo Vince.
These movies did exactly what they set out to do: be comic books in movie form
This is exactly it. These movies were intentionally campy because they're portraying comic book characters, but there's very subtle character acting in there too to add a touch of realism and relatability to the characters.
In comics spiderman shooted his webs put of his hands
If somebody over stresses the Web would the glands come out
Because all of our glands are connected
Right?
Especially the train scene
It's like
Daredevil can't see but has a eye in his ass
Or Tony Stark makes his suits just because his heart can do so
Yeah I know it's weird
But that's how a comic reader would see the movie
@@therealslimshady6763 comic spider man had web shooters not organic.
@@Nobody-ss7ks it was sarcasm
As good as they did in feeling like Spider-Man comics, they were not very faithful at all & the third film mostly only set out to make money
You have provoked a gang war.
@Lamps are Sick its a gta sa reference lmao
@@rinryan9134 IM GONNA FUCK SOME SHIT UP
You have survived the first wave (pls continue this)
You survived the second wave
The hood is yours!
I genuinely want to see a debate between this guy and hitop films
That'll be brutal
Justin Brummett Factss
hitop would wreck him because many of this guys points just literally dont make any sense..... hes missing the point of so much shit idk how much longer i can listen to this. hitop ive found is a way better critique and provides real insight on the movies
@@officialaustenmorpho3224 hitop is to biased he makes things up about the Tom Holland films that aren't true
@@Miguel-no7be havent gotten to them, maybe i will see what youre saying
I will always thank the first spiderman movie for my computer class for giving me a question right. "Slander is spoken, in print it's libel."
It’s libel
*reads title* BRO CHILL OUT
edit in 2021: this video aged worse than the GOATED raimi trilogy unfortunately
It's always cool to see a popular youtuber in the comment section.
Same
A Osman who's the popular UA-camr
Omg ur here
I really fucking hate this whole trend of titles being so antagonistic to the viewer, like it implies you're wrong about a subjective opinion. So arrogant. His tone throughout this video isn't much better. I mean it isn't condescending but everything is phrased objectively.
Why Willem Defoe has never played the joker is the biggest sin of all.
Holy shit your right he should be the joker in the Batman movie or even bat woman
He’s ugly af, perfect fit lol
Laugh Slap Productions How dare you insult god himself
@tofu he literally played Jesus lol
I think jim carrey would be great
I still can't get over the fact that Venom uses 'I' instead of 'we'. You had one job. One.
Venom was shoved in by sony so i dont think Raimi gave 2 shits about Venom
Raimi idea for third one is Vulture but Sony forced him to add Venom.
@@ban66a1 in all honesty I doubt raimi's vulture would be as good as the one we got
@@gloriousporpoise9731
We don't see it yet or know the details, and Sandman character actually work by story and acting perspective but Sony was fool enough by add Venom/Eddie Brock since the third movie already have stacked character.
@@ban66a1 what I'm saying is that I doubt we would have gotten a vulture as good as Michael Keaton's one as he's one of the superhero film villains in the past decade
Growing up with this trilogy made me feel like I witnessed a fun actor grow and become an absolute icon.
I thought people love this movies because they’re corny... they forget realism and threat it like a comic
@@RhineStone46 are you kidding me? All stuff in superhero movies are exhagerated... why do YOU even care to watch them
True you're right. I agree. Homecoming far from home are pretty cheesy
Travis Saner nah, raimi movies are cheesy but unintentionally, homecoming and far from home are intentionally comedic because that’s the tone of the MCU
@@WaffleHouseHD Incorrect. All of the cheese in the Raimi movies are done 100% intentionally. Raimi is a HUGE comic book fan and wanted to capture the feel of the older comic books.
@@RhineStone46 Spider-Man 2 takes itself seriously.
Willam Defoe has the best character arc in Spider-Man he “dies” he flees from New York and goes to the Lighthouse.
God the lighthouse was weird wasn’t it 😂
Damn I never knew he went flawless, what a beast
I liked both of those movies lol
Then he saves John Wick from a russian mob twice
Beeyoth Gaming I understood that reference
As a scientist (Mechanical Engineer, IT Researcher, Energy analyst), I can tell you that '...back to formula' only means start from the beginning. Norman was worried about the time and procedures it'll take before progress is made again. Hence he tested it on himself. Love the trilogy BTW.
I see you're something of a scientist yourself
You don't really need to be a mechanical engineer to understand that...
@@andressotil4671 you beat me to it
That’s nice and all but you have to be really stupid not to know that when they say back to formula on a product it means start over
@@Dracogame apparently you do bc the goob making this video didn’t know that
“Sometimes he shows up for no reason like this jump scare.”
*Ad plays*
Me: laughs in premium
@@OhItsFrazlaughs in adblocker
Woah, those dislikes are gone. It’s like… we now all agree with Markie’s POV. What a world.
How much dislike does this video haves
@@TrisTris0 100k
Crazy shit huh?
@@TrisTris0 The like to dislike ratio is 2 to 1 lol. I think most people don't understand that the video is pretty exaggerated tho
never this man should be flogged in the public square for his god awful horrible degenerate opinions
Cosmonaut : This is all just my opinion , and i still love the raimi movies
The comment senction : 1000 death threats incoming.
No one's doing that. It's just jokes.
@@binbasesatoktayyldran5236 idk man, some of these keyboard warriors sound genuinely angry
with a million more well on the way
@@CoryTheNorm But that's just other people's opinions just like his. People are allowed to dislike it if they don't agree. And there are many reasons not to. Many people like the Sam Raimi movies. So it's understandable. I seriously don't understand why he's allowed to give his opinion but others aren't? If people are attacking him that's wrong ofcourse I personally don't agree with most things he said but I don't care because that's just his opinion. But I still disliked the video because I think the points he made are just stupid and not well thought out. People are allowed to dislike something if they don't like it. What's the big deal?
@@CoryTheNorm If that is true then I can't say much. But even then his video isn't that good to me either. He nitpicks a lot and doesn't seem to understand why people like the movies. So I disliked it for that reason. And to be fair the title of the video is exactly how the video is. So idk. The worst thing then toxic Spiderman fans are toxic Cosmanount fans. What's next? Cosmanount is gonna insult your entire race or family. "But guys it's okay because it's just his opinion." Like idc if it's his opinion I don't like it and I'm gonna give my opinion by disliking the video. Also him having a very punchable voice doesn't really help either. I don't think this guy went through puberty. And by your logic you can't say anything negative against me either because it's just my opinion. Like nah. You can say that you dislike me if you want to idc.
Doctor Octopus' plan makes sense:
1. Doc said earlier in the movie that the arms were programmed to finish the science experiment.
2. Doc said earlier in the movie that the inhibitor chip prevents the arms from taking over him.
3. Inhibitor chip is destroyed and arms take over.
4. Arms programming hasn't changed and so they tell Doc to finish the science experiment.
Note: This comment isn't an agree or disagree with the video. It's simply a correction of one thing you stated in the video that was wrong.
I wanted to explain that too. I work with AI and nowadays AI is still pretty basic, so it just have a goal to complete and it will try whatever it can to accomplish it, just as a mice trying to get out of a maze.
Udy Kumra mind blown
But they also only were able to corrupt his mind because that's exactly what he wanted and basically all he had left
Although I think that creating a fusion reactor would be so huge that it would already be motivation enough. Like evolving humans into giant lizards that can regrow their limbs would be totally amazing. Endless energy and cure to everything? Nah not motivating enough.
I agree, he just wants to finish his research and he needed money
I think we have to remember that these movies are based off of comics. The campiness works. The movies back then had the heart & soul of the comics with the campiness included. Now it seems like they are made on an assembly line using a formula. They’ve lost the campiness too…and replaced it with bad jokes.
It doesn’t always work though that’s what he’s saying. It’s so distracting at sone points you forget some scenes should be tense, it can get to be way too much through this series and it didn’t work 100%
It's not campy because it's based off the comics, it's campy because that's just Sam Raimi's style. He's always been known for making silly low/mid budget movies
Back to formula?
''Mr. Jameson, your wife lost your checkbook''
''thanks for the good news''
I always die at that part
300 likes and I'm your first reply? I'm honored
ThePointlessBox_ 430 likes and I’m your second reply? I’m gay.
This is the first time I get the joke. I'm alien.
"Back to formula"
Means that they're gonna scrap everything and start at square one.
Keren Acosta well yeah I think it was clear because of the context. But it’s just not a common phrase in a normal persons daily life
Thank you
Keren Acosta square one in Mississauga?
SLLLEEEEEPPPP
Y is this something that needs to be answered
Why did the butler wait 3 damn years to tell harry, peter didn’t kill his dad
This is why you should never procrastinate, kids
Probably because he never noticed Harry's obsession with Spider-Man.
More of the good words daddy
the darkness so true
Because he didn’t exist until that scene
I love looking at the recent comments on videos like this because they're always insane
@Lu1 true! I was looking through alpharad comments during a couple 2+ year old vids and those were much wilder
I can’t get over how funny j Jonah Jameson’s reaction is when he yells “HOFFMAN” & he’s right next to him 😂😂😂
i can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not
The double-take jiggly jaw 😂😂
I could 100% imagine the guy playing hoffman jumpimg in too early on his queue and they just roled with it 😅
@Kryptoskillet isnt he played by his brother ted raimi? A simple google search pulled that up, am i missing something 🤔
@Kryptoskillet that’s not Sam that’s his brother Ted
Clicked on the video to see if people were defending the trilogy in the comments.
Wasn't disappointed
Same!
It's crazy it's almost like people like things from their childhood that's weird
@@Nothing72342 dude read the original comment then get back to me, that's what I was responding to
@@maltostado did you even read the comment you're replying to? This is the first time you showed up in this thread so it clearly wasn't directed to you.
yeah screw people for liking a film that is well made, has personality, well defined characters, levity, internal drama as well having extremely compelling action sequences, i hate those fanboys!
The trilogy doesn’t suck at all, but this video is hilarious.
When did he say it sucked
@@xploitalpha5907 “why it sucks” in the thumbnail.
@@Danishmastery thats called click bait he does say later that its a good trilogy
"Why it sucks" is the series. The scores, other than spiderman 3 (which is an ironic masterpiece, he admits in another video) are all very high
I mean it doesn’t but at the same time it does (if that makes any sense)
When he randomly cut to “punch me I bleeed” I just out of no where erupted in laughter
-The cosmonaut: "Sam Raimi's Spider-Man Trilogy - Worse Than You Remember"
-Everyone: I missed the part where that's my problem
96k people: You want forgiveness? Get religion
I mean he's allowed to have an opinion.
@@Disanem That's what I say smh
@@Disanem totally... but as the first one said... I missed the part where that's my problem...
To be fair he did state he still likes the movies. He does have good points but still Sam Raimi's films are fantastic. I really did want Spider Man 4.
"depressed alcoholic college students"
Yes 911, I've just been attacked
SAME HERE
iLikeNoodles aaahahahahHhaahaha
ME: sees a therapist, goes to an AA meeting, drops out of college.
Spencer Morgan E
Spencer Morgan lol stupid college students you’ll all get liver cancer
Idk, I felt like Aunt May’s reaction towards Peter’s confession about uncle Ben’s death was understandable. Sure maybe it was a bit cold but having to learn that your husbands death could’ve been prevented is a lot to mentally and emotionally process. Plus early in the movie it was established that she was still grieving over Ben’s death. Her grief is still fresh and I felt like her leaving Peter was her way of communicating that she needed time and space to process Peter’s sad confession. Great video btw.
Also, Aunt May isn’t always a saintly mother figure. She used to constantly complain and believe Spider-Man was a bad person in the comics. She also tried marrying Doc Ock, etc.
Also Mary Jane was justifiably mad at Peter, he really did kept making it all about himself and Spiderman when she tried to tell him her problems, Cosmo seems to just want every single person to be nice to Peter all the time no matter the circumstances.
@@dingle2987 wtf
@@pats3212 Uh no. When she is complaining about the bad reviews, Peter emphasizes with her, telling her it's alright and a part of the job. She gets mad because he uses his experiences as Spiderman to help her out.
yeah i loved that sene and i was glad that she didnt just blow it off and say something like: dont worry peter, uncle ben would have been proud of you"
Seeing this again 5 years later and it's just as funny. every time i rewatch a raimi movie i remember those random background characters or something else you mentioned LOL
"I like being bad.....it makes me happy."
Wtf, Eric Forman
Olivia King reds gonna kick his ass
Kelso man
LMFAOOP
That dumbass
I love all these comments 😭😭👏🏽👏🏽
Out of all the villains, sand man was the one that I actually felt bad for and liked as a character.
"You don't understand! I have a daughter! That makes it okay for me to break the law! I'm not a bad person!"
Side is that a hishe reference?
@@kingcole9842 Yeah-
Also the Pitch Meeting, one minute in - m.ua-cam.com/video/ehdRfvDLcWA/v-deo.html
His origin with the wide open, unguarded Pit of Science and his retcon into Uncle Ben's death are pure dumbassery though.
You just made me love these movies even more.
So true
Same haha
What?
Mart Start it’s called sarcasm
@@mrswiggleface9388 how is "what?" Sarcastic it's literally just a question no hint of sarcasm at all. May I ask if you even understand sarcasm I dont think you do
Most people only consider these movies a good adaptation because its their first, main, and sometimes only source or Spider-man knowledge.
I’ve played the 3 spider-man games on ps5 and watched the mcu/amazing/original again or for the first time and enjoyed all
Sam Raimi is the only director who accurately showed Steve Ditko and John Romita artistic style in live action. The problem with other comic book movies is that they are afraid of being comic booky.
I love that they didn’t stray away from some of the corniness of the comics. Like “we’ll meet again, Spider-Man!!” Is totally a 60s comic book line, but it’s so fun to hear and see.
yeah, i feel like the more they take out the corniness of comics, the more boring those movies become.
Belias that’s kinda why I like the new Aquaman movie. It’s so corny it’s basically a comic book.
that's exactly why I love the trilogy. I used to read a few issues of the 60s comic books when I visited my grandparents house on Sundays as a kid. And they managed to capture the feel of them BRILLIANTLY. Is it cheesy? Hell yeah. But I honestly think that was the _point._
Yes or how about "are you in or out? You're the one who's out Gobby, out of his mind!"
Causmonaut Variety Hour: **makes this video**
92k people: I’m gonna rub some dirt in your eye.
Yes😂😂
*put
Lmao
Lmao
No the quote is "I'm going to put some dirt in your eye"
Not rub
“Raimi Trilogy - Worse Than You Remember”
Me: I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye.
(To Elaborate: I was just joking, y’all don’t have to get mad in the comments.)
"bully maguire"
you mean “in your eye”
Bully maguire isnt related to sam raimi anymore,he can plug and unplug to everything he wants
Lol
He literally said he loves the movies….it’s not that deep lol
I can explain the back to formula bit. The general tells him he has two weeks to have a successful human trial or the federal funding will be pulled, which could cause serious financial damage to the company. Going "back to formula" basically means they need to return to a pre-animal trial stage.
Sort the comments by new, you'll get a whole different level of entertainment
oh i am, thanks for the advice
🥴
Thx dude it really made my day
More toxic than a chemical lab
this comment still holds on omg 😂
I’m not hating on this video, but this just gives me even more of a nostalgic love for the Raimi Trilogy.
Tobey Maguire: has best movies
Andrew Garfield:comic accurate Spiderman
Tom Holland: most unique movies
Just an opinion
Just because something is nostalgic doesn’t mean it’s good
Shravan Kumar I have to agree. Personally I think the best Spider-Man movie is The Amazing Spider-Man but the best portrayal of Spider-Man is Tom Holland. Now if you was to take Tom Holland’s Spider-Man and place him in the Amazing Spider-Man story line, that would be the best Spider-Man.
CamTGM Just because a UA-camr says the movies are bad doesn’t mean they’re objectively bad
@@ProsperingNerd808
I have to completely disagree with you
Adrew's spiderman was a dick, and he didn't even fit the look and personality of Peter Parker, he was some skateboarder who wasn't picked on, the polar opposite of Peter
Tom Holland is a gem thats for sure, his age, goofiness, and personality matches Peter Parker extremly well
But Toby is always gonna be the first person who captured the struggling nerd in high school living with bullies, he was nerdy and pretty relatable, he in my opinion is the father of all spider men, but maybe not the best
Cosmonaut: This trilogy is worse than you remember
Fans: so you have chosen death
Why would he say the 3 movies are the same fuckin little prick
Fb i damn you must not be a big fan of comedians if you can’t take a joke 😂
@@littlebroomstick44 you're joking, right?
Fb i you are very emotional
Fb i I’m getting a sneaking suspicion that you might not like Marcus
Ngl this was actually really funny. I can't see a lot of the festival scenes without bursting with laughter anymore
J.K Simons is the only person that could ever pull off J. Jonah Jameson. Also how dare you forget pizza time.
Pizza time
P I Z Z A T I M E
NutrientChair49 DONT make me have nightmares
DANK MEMES FOR DAYZZ BOI sorry sir
- You want a staff job, and you want a staff job; Anyone care what I want?
- I do
- Shut up, get out
"Back to Formula" basically means they have to start from scratch.
Does it mean math? Haha
And that the project as it is now, get's shut down.
@@vendasiax666x8 essentially bringing the project back on stabilizers
Back to Super Soldier Formula
Yeah that part I couldnt tell if he was serious or not? How old is this guy?
I feel like Aunt May's response to Peter in *Spider-Man 2* is one of the most authentic human moments in the franchise. Throughout all three films she's been 100% in his corner. When other people were down on him Aunt May was there to remind him that he's a good person and worthy of love and admiration. This is because she genuinely believes this to be so. Up until he confesses to her, Peter could do no wrong in her eyes.
Also, keep in mind that throughout the movie her life has been on a steady decline. Her husband of decades has only been dead a couple of years, the bills are racking up, her savings are running dry, and she's about to lose her home. About the only constant in her life at this point that's any good is Peter and her unwavering faith in his inherent goodness.
So when Peter comes in and confesses to her that his selfishness was directly responsible for the chain of events that lead to her husband's murder, the last bit of goodness she had in her life has been snatched away. How else was May supposed to react? Her nephew, whom up to this point she's only ever seen as a saint, has just told her that her husband died because Peter didn't bother stopping Ben's killer at the place Peter wasn't supposed to be at in the first place. If anything her response was more measured than she had any reason to be.
You said it, buddy!
Yea I think Marcus really misses the point or is just really nitpicking to make a point about how the raimi movies aren't as good as people remember. It's the same with uncle ben too, uncle ben isn't telling Peter to not fight (Uncle Ben even says Flash probably deserved it), he's telling him to be careful and to not turn into someone he'll regret becoming, in other words be a good person and do the right thing.
Also, once Aunt Mays had some time to let the news sit, she tells Peter that he did the right thing.
The Dashboard I think Aunt May would be too nurturing to suddenly dismiss or chide Peter on the news she can faintly believe (Logically, a lot of people would ignore and put up no fight against a man holding a gun who went as far as to threaten a man’s life to steal money). I don’t see Aunt May suddenly acting like Peter had psychic powers and could do much to prevent the guy killing someone after the fact
For real! That was frustrating to watch, but it's human!When I watch the Dark Knight Rises and Alfred says "Bruce, I lied about Rachel's decision to protect your heart because I love you and I just want you to be free" and Bruce is like "Hey Alfred go fuck yourself," I don't see that as a plot flaw. I get it. And eventually, he learns. Just like Aunt May.
He doesnt even hate these movies why do you guys hate this video so much
He loves SM 3 more than most people
Because Raimi spider man fans are actually insane.
Are you dumb? Have you watched the video? He's clearly making fun of these garbage movies😂😂
Because he’s straight up wrong at some points. His whole “aunt may is a jerk” part is literally missing all the context of the scenes he talks about lol. When he says she’s a dick, the scene he shows in the background is legit her giving Peter money when her house is about to be foreclosed
@@DarkKnight_it gave us bully maguire
The third movie is legendary just because it has the best meme of all time
That’s the exact same reason why so many people love the Star Wars prequels
"Now Dig On This!"
@@actingmale9257 ye only for the unlimited memes
Spider-man 2: You sure about that
@Hooty HOOT HOOT my spider sense is tingling *if ya know what I mean*
This is for you
Oh boy yeah
YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED
hello my dear
Ah rosie I love this boy
You know, I'm something of a scientist myself
Hey freakshow you ain't goin nowhere
“So I didn’t like a couple things about this trilogy.”
Raimi fans: So you have chosen...death.
So your saying raimi fans got angry because he disliked some parts of the trilogy?
@@Disanem Yeah. Have you seen the amount of dislikes? Or the comments?
@@cookycashcommunity1561 yeah have you seen the amount of likes?
“So I didn’t like a couple things about this trilogy.”
Raimi fans: *sweaty fat reddit kids fuel up there biased machine 2000 trying not to accept the fact that these films are a messy corny sack of shit*
@@truthplaguer2196 very specific choice of words.. sure youre not trying to tell us something about yourself?
You can say what you want but when I look at J.K Simmons, I see J. Jonah Jameson lol he was a great casting choice.
“ I resent that! Slander is spoken. Print is libel.” 😂😂😂
I was talking to my wife about this yesterday. Idk who in the Hell can top J.K. Simmons' performance as J.J. Jameson. He brought that character to life, which isn't something I can say about most of the comics-inspired movies.
Yeah he points that out in the video, credit where its due.
When I look at him I just see the whiplash guy
I rewatched these and I realized that they are actually the best Spider-Man movies and trilogy ever
This movie was my life as an 8 year old in 2002. Saw the movie like 15 times, played all the games... was obsessed. ..
The MCU movies are way better. Old movies just aren't good...The effects make it impossible to take seriously. The acting too.. ugh..
The thing is, Raimi’s movies are by far the most quotable. Even if they haven’t aged well, the trilogy movies are undeniably the most memorable. From “I’m somewhat of a scientist myself”, “Pizza time”, and all of Willam Da foe’s lines are great plus Bully Maguire’s sequence is great. The modern spider man movies may be better from a film view but Raimi’s trilogy will always be the one people remember
But the raimi movies are good from a film view.
I think there's a massive difference between a good film and an enjoyable film, the Raimi trilogy does NOT have good movies but fucking hell they are so funny to watch
@@liyre4189 bro they are good
@@silverprimus321boi9 haha nah, imo they are not good movies but they're fun to watch i guess
that line even made it to no way home HAHAH
I'm pretty sure Hitop films took this as a personal attack
HiTop films cryptonite
Michael Mello yeah fucking hitop films
oh boy yeah he will
As he rightly should, this video is a shitshow.
@OfficialRonin Yeah he sucks I hate Hi-Top he is really annoying because most of the stuff he says is completely wrong
"Why it sucks"
Sam Raimi: "DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I SACRIFICED!!!!?!??!?!"
Sam Raimi: "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye"
I SACRIFICED MY fruitcake
"Gonna Cry?"
Cosmonaut Variety Hour: "i missed the part where thats my problem"
"Why it sucks" is the name of the series, he actually said its good.
I’m surprised how much this comment section has calmed down. Honestly thought it would be getting those stupid ass spam comments till the end of UA-cam.
It has barely calmed down. The unhinged fellas are still absolutely feral.
It's moreso there's almost nothing left to be said that someone hasn't already commented with
You speak about Spider-Man 2 but don't mention the greatest piece of movie history, the pizza time scene?
Shame on you.
I know right.
How is petty to hold a grudge against someone who killed your father?!
Galaxy_Edge He knows that, he watched the movie. He’s saying that the fact that someone would hold a grudge against someone who he BELIEVES has killed his father isn’t petty.
Avinash D. Thanks for explaining it for me, appreciate it
@@alienthrower4342 Np man
Bishal Das We already talked about this, read the other comments.
How dumb is spiderman to not explain in one sentence that he didn't kill his father? He had like three chances lol
*roasts the hell out of Spider-Man 2
‘7/10 I love it’
Kermit le frog wdym?
SyplayZz Tobey is the worst Spider-Man imo but Spider-Man 2 Is one of the best Spider-Man movies. How was that movie horrible?
@@yazancallasno Garfield is the worst
Jesus Shuttlesworth as peter yes but Andrew was a way better Spider-Man than Tobey he was more comedic
The point of the video is to address the short comings of the films, even if he finds them enjoyable. I like them too, but they just don't stand up to The Dark Knight, Infinity War, Homecoming, and Into the Spiderverse
just rewatched this trilogy after spider verse, and it still a really good spidey story. then uncle ben moments hit every time we see peter having to his relations and well being for the sake of the city it hits home. even the minimal dialogue is effective. i find this version of peter to be the most realsitic version an awkward nerd who only has his aunt his best friend and gf as a social circle, struggles to work and do college while being spidey and bears it all.
It seems strange to call out Harry turning away from the conversation between Peter and his father. He explains it himself shortly after: "He pretty much wants to adopt you"
Harry didn't check out bc he was a sim. He checked out bc he had nothing to contribute to their conversation and his jealousy was making him uncomfortable. That's a pretty consistent part of his character.
bro is defending this movie like its paying him
@@isaacmartinez2359 damn dude he wrote a pretty good explanation for one scene in a movie, not even pouring his heart out for this defence, he's not being paid shit (I apologise I'm getting paid to defend this guy)
@@isaacmartinez2359 reasoning seems well though
@@Aryan-qv5qk you can make up reason all you want, just like how I can make up reasons on what they could have had Harry do instead of mentally check out
- Say “ill catch you inside”
- Wave to friends and join them
- Say bye to his father and let him talk to Peter
- have a teacher call his name
My point, as well as the video’s in making this off hand comment is that Harry is not need for the scene. He serves no purpose other than to make a way too formal introduction for a new character, which you could have done and then promptly leave the screen so he doesn’t take up room in the frame, or just be there on set as long in general. Is this an egregious sin? No. It’s more likely just a result of the script not taking into consideration how it would look in person for this conversation to have happened.
It’s a trivial joke to make fun of the movie for. Which is why I found it weird that someone would go out of their way to defend when there are plenty of other points for someone to make about this semi-critique video. I find that Rami fans always do this, they often defend points that don’t need to be defended because they are just facts about how the movies are. They’ll get mad about others pointing out how corny the movie can be despite later saying that it is the appeal for them.
@@isaacmartinez2359 except this actually does make sense to the context of the movie
"unintentional comedy gold"
This is the director of Evil Dead.
Alex Willis Yeah, pretty much all the cheese and humor is intentional. Makes them better movies in my eyes.
@@PWNDpresents Not all
Spike Spiegel I guess. Intentional or not, it's still funny and gives the movies much more charm.
Alex Willis are u talking about the really old evil dead that movie is so fucking funny
Alex Willis Raimi’s style is so great, and it’s hard to find a filmmaker can replicate what he can do.
I don't like sand. It's all coarse, and rough, and irritating. And it gets everywhere.
Don't make me kill me
Hello there.
Aaron Jaggan finally somebody with a valid opinion
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one!
Evan Mitsakis General kenobi
Time for my yearly look at the comments to see who did and didn’t watch the video
This trilogy aged like blue cheese. Not everyone's taste is met or pleased, but it's still pretty damn good to certain people.
This is a weirdly perfect analogy.
Most people. Not certain, most
@@kylejanse2632 definitely certain. id say the fan distribution would be 40-40-20 for Tobey, Tom and Andrew as their fav spider. maybe 45-45-10
@@ardentdiplomat6662 but we not talking about favourtie spidey. We talking about the trilogy. I've not met a single person who does not like this trilogy and do not think that the first 2 movies are masterclass in superhero movies. Without a doubt, maguire spidey with x men trilogy set the standard for modern superhero movies.
blahhh I hate Blue cheese
Something I always like from 1 is when Goblin is choking out JJJ demanding where he gets the Spider-Man pics and JJJ immediately tries to keep him away from Peter. Like he could have said “oh this new intern takes them.” But no, he goes “I don’t know, they come by mail.”
its right outta comics, jjj is a fraudulent jealous asshole, but he does care about people
@@Demonically_Inspired he also finds out peter is Spider-Man
@@lllightskindude in recent comics pete straight up tells jjj
@@Demonically_Inspired which one?
@@snoopdoggydogg94 i think it was the spectacular spiderman issue 14 or something..not sure
Let's all just agree that J. Jonah Jameson couldn't have been played better in the old trilogy.
seriously though I cannot think of any other way for him to sound like other then J. K. Simmons portrayal of him.
Fin Fen honestly, he really needs to reprise his role in the new films
@@CloudyShinobi I'd be pretty happy about that.
@@finfen9730 that would be a reward which you guys shouldn't get until you guys learn how to handle someone else's opinion that differs from yours.
@@Riskofrain527 GET OUT OF HERE NOOB! Don't you have MK11 to start training for? Or like to practice fancy high-fives with your shadow buddy?
I watched these films when i was 6, i watched them again now that im 24, they aren't any worse and they're just as good as i remember. In fact i like Spider-Man 2 a lot more now than i used to.
People getting mad that he called them cheesy forget that Sam Raimi's whole style is making cheesy comedies with horror aspects. His most famous movies are Evil Dead 1-2, Army of Darkness, and Drag Me To Hell. He's clearly going for cheesy cornball fun.
Yes, that's true, but most people think it's cheesy as a mistake, like it's something Raimi didn't do on purpose.
@@chewymew and that's the big issue. They are all intentionally cheesy.
@@BlazenSpirit99 Yeah, it's a damn shame.
Joseph Randolph How about you watch/read some interviews.
@@chemsomnia How about you watch any of Raimi's other films?
"then harry decides not to have amnesia anymore" lol
@@VestingKnight10 it was a joke genius
@@VestingKnight10 its the fucking joke
FatNinjaWalrus I was laughing really hard at that
Vesting Knight10 r/wooosh you idiot
Vesting Knight10 whoosh
Don't blame Sam raimi for putting a bunch of villains. Blame Sony they forced him to do it.
Have you seen any other Sam Raimi movies? The dude is insane.
Nobody said it was his fault
@@shuiichii5517 no I meant sony. sony forced Sam raimi to put venom and he didn't know that much about him Sam raimi just wanted sandman vs spiderman not venom
@@leedoes3380 Of course I watched evil dead,the grudge,hercules,crawl,the jungle book,the possession,poltergeist and don't breathe. I used to be a big fan of horror and Sam raimi makes tons of movies
@@astralnwtn well then you would know the man is crazy
10:32 Green Goblin growls
- "Hold it right there!"
- "I surrender."
- "Oh boy!"
Why am I laughing so hard at this. XDD
Honestly Aunt May wasn't an asshole, her reaction was pretty understandable because she was still griefing about Uncle Ben's death so her, discovering that her nephew kind of was responsible was a understandable reaction
But she didn't want to take his hand, that was hella rude, you don't do that shit to people you love.
@@hotelzeta24 Well it's possible that you could in a situation like the one presented
@@hotelzeta24 you also don't cause your loved ones death, buuuut...
@@halalwuu9618 I don't know man, I wouldn't, I'm not much of a good person, but I could be understanding in those types of situations.
Writing a paragraph about a shallow useless character in a corny garbage trilogy with outdated humour and CGI
All the rami fans when insomniac added webbed suit
“Oooh boy yeah”🥴
Only because you crazy ass fanboys sent them death threats. And force them to do it. Just terrible people.
Tcb bct but he’s telling the truth you dumbass
@@kevaughnhenderson8478 I never asked for it nor complained that it wasn’t in the game. Yes it’s my favorite suit in the game but if i had to choose a movie suit I’d pick tasm2. I prefer the skinner spiderman build and the big lenses. I would never send them death threats.
@Tcb bct it's actually confirmed and well known that the they're team was threatening. I don't how that makes a dumbass. But your the one who seem to be delusional. Now don't go sending death threats now like the rest of the fan base.
@Tcb bct the Sam Raimi trilogy is all right .only one movie is a ok movie. Don't over hype fanboy.
The real title should be
Sam Rami s spiderman trilogy - Funnier than you remember
(exept for mary jane)
More like - Cheesier , Funnier , Mary Jane being a Bitch , than u remember...
@@properduction2586 how is she a bitch
@@imperfect_dan7519
Why so Serious ?
@@properduction2586 Your right, let's put a smile on that face
Yeah Mary Jane sucks
To me nothing will ever top it, it might be goofy at certain points but it's a funny kind of goofy and it still keeps everything fun to watch
My favorite scene is when Harry's eating apple pie in the third movie and the waiter asks how is it and he responds with that creepy, "So good." 😂😂😁
And then he hides under the table 😂😂😂
Normally the bad guys eat an apple, so I guess they were being creative by putting it in a pie!
@@V_For_Vigilante Hahaha. The extra definitely messed up there.
Rip Harry lol
Harry’s hot ngl y’all just don’t realize it
Peter Parker: 20 Years Old
Aunt May: 95 Years Old
Cain Broe Except Tobey was like 30 but yeah same idea.
@@WillWright-lx4hf what I meant was Peter is meant to be in highschool and you have grandma Aunt May in the corner
Cain Broe i mean aunt may looked like she was 200 in the comics so , its fairly accurate
Not even. Rosemary Harris (May) was only 75 when Spiderman 1 came out.
@@albertmaggiolo7448 that's still ancient he was definitely exaggerating
You’ll get a good spider man film when you FIX THIS DAMN DOOR
So you saying the doors are already in perfect condition...all the 3 doors.
@@yedukrishna8613" I don't want your opinion your ruining the moment"
I Peter Parker have a dream
Hey...
@Kev_ Bot uno reverse
Looking back at it now, it was really weird when Uncle Ben talked about how with great power comes great responsibility, but then went on to have a five-minute rant about the white man's burden before finally dying. I guess it really was a different time.
Huh??
wth are you talking about??🤔
nobody.
absolutely no one.
Peter Parker:
*_o h b o i y e a_*
*p i z z a t i m e*
I'm gonna put some dirt in your eyes
I’m gonna put some dirt in your eye for that unoriginal comment.
punch me i'd bleed
I do my homework now
I'm sure this narrator works for The Daily Bugle
cindy mananzala martinez he says in the beginning that he loves the movie
@@tygeanoules3705 He's lying. He praises the shit out of Disney's Spider-Man like it's perfect.
Ok, is he not aloud to think that the newer movies are better. Personally I love the MCU Spider-Man and I don’t really remember the Sam rami movies being that good
@Jim Johnson So true 😂
This can work out. Spider-Man is a HUGE sandbox to play around in. They just have to play their cards right. They should look to Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2, Spectacular Spider-Man, Spider-Verse, and PS4 Spider-Man as their inspiration. They're basically perfect! I don't think Holland should crossover with Venom, because their characters are different ages. Sony should just proceed to have Tom faceoff against the Sinister Six. Sony should release a statement saying Venom takes place in the same universe as The Amazing Spider-Man movies and have Marc Webb return to direct the third one, and then we can have these two characters crossover. Sam Raimi should come back and direct Spider-Man 4, which takes place 10 years after Spider-Man 3 and explores an older and more experienced Spider-Man a lá Logan. Finally, we can have a live-action Spider-Verse with Tobey, Andrew, and Tom; a Sony equivalent to the Avengers. From there we can get Miles Morales, Gwen Stacy, Jessica Drew, Ben Reilly, Miguel O' Hara, and other REALLY INTERESTING SPIDER-CHARACTERS!
(Jim Johnson) People can be fans of characters without screaming like an insane fangirl. I personally love the MCU Spider-Man, though I know it’s less comic accurate than the other movies.
When I was a child I never realised that guy was their teacher, I thought he was just a very enthusiastic student or something
Splancck it’s not far fetched to think that guy was a student.
Splancck I use to think have been one of those perfectionist students but your rite
@@Hecken_Bruiser tbh at the time I was like 8 and I just assumed he was a prefect or something. I didn't really think much about him, I was more excited to see Spiderman than anything rly
@@Hecken_Bruiser you're really doubling down on the "being a dick about it" angle huh
@@Hecken_Bruiser Lol, you must've been at the top of your fucking class when you were a child then, eh?
Nice video, your husband edit it for you?
"This movie is dumb as hell, 7/10 I love it'
Yep that just about sums it up.
Na it really doesn't. There's plenty of shit talking in this video that makes it seem like the movie has plenty of flaws, but its manipulation on the part of the creator. If you actually watch the trilogy after watching this video, its quite clear how biased this guy is, and how he just makes up a bunch of shit as reasons for why the movies are bad, just because he personally doesn't like them. A lazy critique targeted towards a lazy audience
@@suchalad ALERT!! ALERT!! RAIMI FANBOY DETECTED!!!!!!!
@@mjfan8704 ahahah i'm not a fan boy of anything. It's just that the video creator is making up a bunch of B.S, like his comment about spider man beating people up, even though he mostly just catches people into his webs and only beats people when he's got no other choice. Also he's bitching about the science of a movie that has SPIDERMAN in it.....it's a goofy superhero movie and he's criticising it for being.....a goofy superhero movie. It's like yelling at a pear because it's not an apple.
His points about aunt may were so b.s. When she says "you loved him, and he loved you" She is (obviously) saying that whatever happened doesn't matter, what matters is that they cared for each other, even though Pete and uncle ben had some heated moments, it doesn't really matter.
Her speeches in the second and third movies are really sweet. There are youtubers who actually have discussed these scenes and talked about why they are great. This guy just implies that certain moments are bad without explaining why. Like a school kid telling his friends that "yugioh is better than pokemon"
when I watched this video a year ago i was gullible to actually take his word for it, and was a little sad that (they arrn't as good as i remember), but i just rewatched them, then came across this video again, and remembered watching it previously and now seeing how wrong he is, and that this video is just a bunch of shit talking
This youtuber is just making money off internet losers who love to bash normal, genuine character films which have since been replaced by the most cringe movies like gardiens of the galaxy (the soundtrack my god, please kill me)
@@suchalad Yeah, all of that still doesn't take away the fact that you're a fanboy. Nothing wrong with that. It's just that many of you get VERY defensive when it comes to things you like. So defensive, it's almost as if the ones criticizing the thing you like are the worst people to ever grace the Earth since Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin. Just saying.
@@mjfan8704 I said the dude was lying and shit talking. Most humans do those things at least a few times a week, so no. You're just saying that in an attempt to rile me up, which i think is sad for you. goodluck
I don’t care what anyone says, the Spider-Man 3 dance scene is the best part of the whole trilogy
Yup
@Gamer Clips i'm not paying for those
Pizza time has became a MEME
obviously
Also give me the rent
"Pizza time"
That line alone makes this trilogy a 10/10
@Stealphie you'll get your door when you fix this damn pizza
Stealphie you’ll get your no u when you fix this damn no u!
It is a 10! Indeed
The pizza line was way too outdated.
That's sounds like a TMNT thing too say
Me and my friend have been going to the new AMC theatrical re releases of the Spiderman movies (they’re currently doing Tobey’s trilogy, then Andrew’s, the finishing with Tom’s) and we feel the exact opposite. We’ve gone to see Tobey’s Spiderman in and 2 thus far (Spiderman 3 is next week) and felt they were better than we remember as kids and actually incredibly soulful movies. We think these feel more like stories while the latest marvel movies feel more like corporate projects or products. They’re simpler than the latest marvel multiverse stuff but somehow tenfold more meaningful in its storytelling. The current marvel stuff feels a little more hollow/sterile. Our takeaways so far upon revisiting at least.
This is EXACTLY what me and my brother have done! Not only did I realize how much I liked Spider-Man 2, but that I love it in a different way now that I'm an adult. As a kid I love the fight on the train scene, as an adult I feel more when the people hold onto him and lift him up. I am glad I'm not alone in this. The problem with this review (or 1 of them) is that it's easy to make fun of something good, it is difficult to praise it.