"The Man Show" Did NOT Age Well...
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This week, we take a look at Jimmy Kimmel's ghost from the past: The Man Show. Enjoy!
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Robert Pattinson for Variety magazine:
“I always say about people who do method acting, you only ever see people do the method when they’re playing an a-holes,” Pattinson admitted. “You never see someone being lovely to everyone while they’re really deep in character.”
Yoooo that’s true though
We stan robert
robert is a girlboss and we love him for it
@@cool.6701 he’s a girl boss and he thoroughly gaslights and gate keeps
@@joliecollier7937 oh my god I love the reference
Reminds me of that one onion article ‘Shocking, Man who is Ironically Sexist turns out to also be Normal Sexist’
I love the onion
So all women are just normal sexists then?
I looked it up and I think it was from the Reductress
But… but i am ironically sexist
@@seyfullaheyler8832 if you're ironic about it doesn't that mean youre satirizing it? I'm not defending the man-show, but Kurtis's argument is weak there
Calling yourself “The Man Show” then making the entire show about women is a choice…
It’s like how “National Men’s Day” gets more internet traffic on national women’s day than it does on the actual national men’s day
@@queueareste1458and so much of the “men’s day” social media posts are about women.
There are actually some great men’s movements to get behind, like reducing the stigma around mental illnesses, how men are more heavily pressured into joining the military, there’s this growing need to deradicalise men who are joining the alt right against their self interests.
But it’s always about women for some reason.
There’s something to be said about how a lot of men’s sense of masculinity is not tied to like… actually enjoying and doing masculine things, but instead based in a reactionary relationship to women and femininity. Like, being a man is about rejecting femininity or reliant on a position of power over (hence why an unrelated woman having rights is somehow emasculating) instead of the ways performing and indulging in gendered behaviour brings you joy and a authentic sense of identity.
@@xxgirl101xx it’s so depressing.
I went to a 6yo’s birthday party the other day, and so much of his family is just so focused on gender roles. To the point where he’s getting told he can’t wear the glittery princess cape his cousin was wearing because it was too femme, he was only allowed to wear the plainer one.
I’d bought one of those cakes that are rainbow on the inside, and was playfully asking the kids “what colour do you think the cake on the inside is?” And one little boy was like “it has to be a boy colour, like blue or red” what?
Masculinity is often just pushed as more of an abstinence of femininity more than anything else. It’s fucking awful.
@@MrHenrytheoctopus it’s so sad that at this point parents are literally pushing toxic anti-feminine thoughts it’s a little boys heads. They’re literally kids, who freaking cares if they like rainbow and sparkly things just let them live their life before they have to go through the depressing process of becoming adult.
The man show forgets that an offensive joke still has to be a joke and not just offensive.
Nah you're just soft lad
@@bhvillaman4401 the thing is that offensive humor can be funny but most of the time it's just not. It's usually cringe. I think you can make funny sexist/homophobic/etc types of jokes, I don't really care. but they need to actually still be funny. If you're just saying something offensive that's not humor in itself, it's just lazy
@@bhvillaman4401nope he is right !! You're misogynistic:/
@@pencilCasey000 Couldn't have been explained better
@@bhvillaman4401OK mr hard.
I once heard it said that "If you have to keep explaining that your work is satire, you made really bad satire" and that applies to this show perfectly
Exactly!
Yes! But of course there are always going to be the “Intellectuals” who INSIST “yoU juSt aReN’T sMaRT enOuGH tO uNdERstAnD iT!”
I 100% agree but sometimes you can think something satire and the person is being 100% genuine
definitely true for this show, but there are also a lot of people that just don’t understand satire
@@polygon3538 · But what is the reason they don't understand it?
Shoutout to that woman who Informed the other woman what these men were saying to her and trying to help her
OMG WHOS UR PFP OF I LOVE IT
@@PillarsofCreation-- i think it may be technoblade?
@@PillarsofCreation-- oh! It’s actually fanart of a book character!
@@3bugsinatrenchcoat it’s fanart of a book character 👌
@@Aileenie lmfao which character from what book? I'm curious now sorry (':
Jimmy chasing a woman saying "just a yes or no" babe, she's RUNNING AWAY. That's a big no
you run cover for him now that he's a faarrrrr lefffftist tarrrrd now though, don't you?
"The river of estrogen" sounds epic and now I want to find this river and drink from it
Gonna be searching for it like it's the fuckin one piece
Most guys have
WHERE IS IT!?
The river of estrogen and the lake of testosterone is a need in the transgender community
@@nicohebert4281 based
i've never heard of opera as a web browser, but hearing kurtis saying "I USE INTERNET EXPLORER" seemingly randomly was even more hilarious imo
i literally only use opera ghfhfhf
I thought the joke was that he was so silly that he was also still using internet explorer 😂
I use opera and i still only got it after he explained it lol
YEAH
Opera is elite.
When he chased that woman up the street asking her to have sex with him...that’s a real life nightmare right there man lol
@@johnnyfeathers7076 nah. There’s no points for that. Take that nonsense elsewhere
seriously
@@johnnyfeathers7076 are you insane?
@@haktar11 wait……I don’t understand how comedy works? Is that what you’re gonna go with? Are you telling me that every single comedy show you’ve ever watched in your life, everyone was a paid actor? So any show to see peoples “reactions”, like maybe an impractical jokers, none of it has any spontaneity? Whoa dude that’s crazy, I must be an idiot.
@@haktar11 RIP comedy…..will always remember the days when it was allowed
The whole woman's right to vote bit is literally insane, how the hell did it get past production, even for that time's standards??
Because it's hilarious, that's why.
@@jakesoros2376oh dear
@@jakesoros2376 please reconsider your life choices and grow as a person
@@jakesoros2376I hope you never have a daughter.
@@jakesoros2376 then I think I forgot to laugh cause it was very not. Not. Not funny
As a non-American, I never understood the sympathy for Jimmy Kimmel. I first heard of him when his "Tell your kids you ate all their halloween candy" videos got viral and I never understood how making children cry on purpose is supposed to be fun. Dude sucks, tbh.
Actually, he's pretty clever and funny on his late-night show. People who say he sucks usually haven't ever watched. The Halloween thing does sound bad, but it's totally brilliant.
@@bluntraptureis it?
@bluntrapture Here's the big question. How is it, though? Ignoring the justification of the "To Toughen Kids" argument I've heard before, what makes making a child cry, filming it, and sending it to a late night show host funny? This isn't like laughing at a kid falling down, that's an experience lots of people have has as kids, from being out of balance, or just trying something dumb to learn about the world around them. This is intentionally causing a kid distress by lying in such a way the kid won't understand or be able to look back on as funny. What makes that funny, as a genuine question? It seems to me, rather needlessly mean and for a moment of fame on a TV show segment made to mock the child.
There are 3 reasons to watch Jimmy Kimmel: Guillermo, the guy who does Mike Lindell impressions and of course Snoop Doggs’ plizzanet earth commentary. Anything kimmel isn’t a part of is what makes his show good tbh 🙄
@@bluntrapture I'd very much like an example of any Jimmy Kimmel performance coming of as smart. And i'll be the judge for my self, if it is something i actually think is a smart joke. Waiting for links.
“the audience just didn’t get it” have you considered that intent does not equal impact
I'd argue the intent wasn't as pure as "comedy." Not arguing with you, just adding to the commentary. Kimmel has always seemed like an opportunist to me even before I was aware of "The Man Show." If they really wanted to satirize stereotypical jerk men then they would have a character like Colbert created to satirize conservative media people like Bill O'Reilly. Instead they just harass women, objectify women, belittle women, and mock progress. Either they're bad messengers or they knew exactly what they were doing.
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Forgive me for misunderstanding are you trying to say intent doesn’t negate the negative impact?
@@langleymneely yes I believe that’s what they were insinuating
I also don't know if I even believe them. Shows like the Colbert Report and the Chapelle show we're out at the same time. IMO they were funnier and they were doing more obvious satire. Like if the majority of your audience doesn't "get it' maybe that's your fault.
The fact that the live audience is agreeing with instead of laughing at the “jokes”, is probably a big reason why people didn’t think of the show as satire
THIS.
Because never in the history of man has there ever been forced audience reactions by the studios they are in.
Queue the "Applause" sign
yeah i was thinking the same
Yeah but there was a lot of genuine agreements. If you were forced to react like that you wouldn't be shouting and screaming "Yes" you'd just lightly applause
@@agereartist3763 your joke isn't a joke because I said so, or are you calling me a liar?
I grew up with the show. They knew exactly what they were doing. They never said anywhere "it was a bit." It ramped up the sexism in young men. Its the old "oh this offends people? yeah I never meant to seriously..." Doesn't work, friends. It was this type of thing that as a unattractive, fat chick, taught me that hating myself was normal.
I’m sure you’re beautiful
You and me both
Friend, let me just tell you that you're amazing and beautiful. You deserved better than the media you grew up with and I was in the exact same boat as you.
This entire show reminds me of my ex. He would make these horrible misogynistic comments and when I got mad he’d call me sensitive and say they were just jokes. I remember breaking down and crying because he just didn’t understand.
Nothing about what he said was a joke and I don’t regret breaking up with him at all.
He’d think this show was peak comedy and that’s honestly just so pathetic
Yup. I had an ex like this. He slowed down with the sexist and racist jokes and statements over the course of a year. After about a year he barely made them anymore, and said he understood where I was coming from. He still made them, but much less so. He didn't understand why I was emotionally detached near the end of the relationship. He didn't understand that the damage was already done and that I would never be able to really respect him again. I'm sad that I wasted my time sticking around to put up with that at all. I don't know how many times you can have people joke about you and your sex like they are another species, further away from objective reality and the good traits of humanity, before it gets to you. And the whole time, you're made to feel like a buzzkill for taking issue with someone saying that people like you aren't funny, aren't smart, or aren't people in the same way that men are. And eventually you start to believe it.
Sorry for the rant, I just empathize and I'm glad you got out of there.
Sounds like you made a choice to improve your life! hope you have people around you now, who treat you the way you deserve to be treated.
You sound too sensitive for this world. You should find a gay man who can understand your feelings better.
It’s so frustrating that women are just expected to laugh along with jokes made at their own expense with a lot of traumatic history behind it. You’re gaslit into thinking you’re overdramatic when it’s perfectly reasonable to be upset.
I am somehow uncomfortable with Kurtis having legs. I've always known him as a floating torso disembodied from the shoulders up
#cancelkurtis2021
#cancelkurtis #kurtisisoverparty #kurtisiscanceled #cancelkurtis2021
So like PewDiePie
he is actually just a floating torso, he edited in the legs for the joke
@@sophiapizarro8313 thank god hes just goofin on us
I think it’s pretty eye opening too that if you follow even a handful of women on social media you’ve probably seen them share a guy responding to her calling him on his bullshit by saying “jeez I was just kidding learn to take a joke”. It’s like the #1 backpedal for horrible dudes online.
right. people need to stop trying to cover up their asshole-ness with jokes
Wait, Kimmel has responded like that?
If you have to tell people it's a joke, 90% of the time it's not a joke. The rest of the time it's just not funny.
And that, ladies and gentlemen and enbies, is what we call Schrödingers asshole.
This or acting like the joke was just too smart and everyone else were too stupid to understand it. Nah, Jason, you didn't outsmart millions of people with your offensive humor.
i will never understand why some men will complain about their wife and go ‘i hate my wife so much she’s a lazy fat cow’ but 15 years ago he proposed and confessed his love for her and agreed to spend the rest of his life with her 🤨
It's just a fun bit of joking it's the grumpy old married couple they talk shit to each other but still love each other
@@wolftitanreading5308 if you joke about hating someone you just hate them but can't leave them cause you need someone to make your dick hard and cook you food
Straight people are creatures that should be studied in a lab
@@wolftitanreading5308thats disgusting 💀
@@drpeppersnumber1fan no it's not it's cute
As someone who grew up in my late teens when this show was on the air, I PROMISE you that if this was supposed to be satire, it was NOT communicated well. I feel that is some revisionist history from the writers/creators to make them seem less gross.
As someone who watched it on occasion, I can promise you it was very obvious it was satire.
@@SchulzEricT why are you trying to "correct" someone elses experience? lmao
Seconded, it was not** satire.
The thing is, even if they’re calling it a “parody” of what awful men are like, the only audience they had for the show were those same awful men. No caring guy or self respecting woman would watch that show and enjoy it genuinely.
And they didn't even try to be like fully over the top to make it obvious, they just look like normal people, so its immensely confusing and just comes out as sexist lmao
Oh, yeah, it's totally parodying toxic masculinity. I mean, everything they say is to an audience of cheering men, it's all said without a hint of irony, and the people saying the terrible things are never the butt of the joke but it's absolutely a parody.
It's also made by those same awful men. People act like self awareness absolves people of everything,, like hey buddy if you're aware of what you're doing wrong,, maybe don't do it instead of doing it ironically?
Sorry gotta disagree. I used to watch this with my best friends Mom, who thought it was hilarious. Before Jimmy Kimmel was a talk show host, the Man Show WAS Jimmy Kimmel. That was who he was.
I’m your 1k like
Never was a fan of Jimmy Kimmel, and finding out he wrote a show like this isn't super surprising. A lot of the segments on his show involve embarrassing, mocking, and borderline harrassing people, including the guests sometimes.
The part where he encourages parents to lie to their very small children about stealing from them in order to laugh at them when they start crying is my favorite
He kinda reminds me of Ellen in that sense
Jimmy is a relic of ancient times where ppl think making fun of others and sexually harassing them is funni haha and it shows 100%
@@Peepersandreapers Gus Johnson made a fantastic sketch about that pretty much summing up whats fucked up about it. i didnt really realise until he pointed it out cuz i dont rlly watch Kimmel but yeah its pretty fucked up.
Oh god the link spamming bots are in Kurtis' comment section now
why do men always say they hate their wives and then proceed to not get a divorce
the convenience of having a live-in maid and therapist is just too good
they can just get a side piece to keep to benefits of marriage but have the sex that they want
The thing about the men who thought the Man Show was peak comedy is that they're definitely not laughing about the caricature of a misogynistic man, they're laughing because they agree with the misogynistic things being said. If there's anything they don't have, it's self awareness.
Really proud of the woman who tried to stand up for the person who didn’t know English being mocked. At least she tried.
Yeah same
They did her so dirty too
I haven't finished the video or watched that since the episode aired but I know exactly what you're referring to. It's so gross.
wow.
just wow.
i'm reminded of the old Simpsons episode with Rex Banner.
"cough....cough....well, YOU people know what a laugh sounds like!!"
thank god we have one more SJW in the world. because god damn, we definitely needed one more of THOSE around here.
@@roflmows you should delete your comment... NOW! ⛈️
Honestly god bless the lady who tried to explain to that elderly lady that didn't speak perfect English what was going on. Idk why the editors would keep that in because it makes them look terrible but it does make me feel better
They probably kept it in thinking viewers at the time would go “look at this chick trying to ruin our joke”. They wanted to make her look like a Karen.
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@@ADreamerWithAPen Right? Those still fool me every now and again and i click on the link lol just too curious
@@ADreamerWithAPen I absolutely adore your attitude about everything that's happening.
_/Srs_
It can’t be a kurtis connor video without the “classy disney”
I mean, that Disney interview was funny as hell.
"a dam to hold back a river of estrogen" is one of the funniest phrases ive ever heard
Them taking advantage of a woman who didn't speak English, and making her the butt of a joke genuinely pissed me off.
ikr it was rlly sad tbh but at least there was the other person standing up for her :,)
The worst fact jimmy never apologized for that nutshell' show
lmao, are you dumb? Those women are ALL IN ON THE JOKE
@jp dumbest
@@MElixirDNB you realise shes an actor right
wow chasing a woman begging to sleep with her- that totally didn't make her feel terrified of getting abused or way worse
God, them literally RUNNING away made me feel queasy...
@@buzzinbea same also I like your username btw
Its so creepy and cringy that they didn't even change the term they used when they asked women to sleep with them
Timestamp? I'm impatient
yep, that totally made him look like a REAL manly man!!
14:12 your facial expression and the slowed down 'eeeewwwwwwww' makes me burst out laughing ever time! I was working a long shift yesterday and my mind was going numb, I thought of this moment in your video and gained the strength to make it through the rest of my shift 😅
Yes, I think about you while at work...
mm, and when else do you think about him?😏
@@ontheloop*boing* oh yeah 😏
My highschool US history teacher actually showed my class a clip from this show when we were reviewing our unit about women's suffrage... he didn't get any laughs out of us that morning with that one.
I am curious, what was the clip about exactly?
...I'm especially curious if he thought the girls would find it funny? Bc..."haha, another group rich Christian white men didn't want to share the vote with! Classic, thigh-slapper humour." wtf. If anything, I would find it a curious material for sociology to examine how even the accomplishments women and minorities have made in history and to overcome adversity are still channeled through the perspective of the people narrating and documenting these events for history.
As a young girl, I never knew it was a joke. It felt horrible to watch my dad laugh at this show every week
How can men, let alone men with daughters, laugh at this show? I’m sorry you had to go through that
My dad is the same way. The "jokes" about removing my right to vote - and now my brother is like this as well - hurts. It just hurts.
I remember watching this when I was young, can’t imagine what it would do to a little girl
@@veganagev2062 Looks like your name is very fitting then.
@@ethansdigitaldiary2811 I couldn't imagine the horror.
I read somewhere that good satire has a definite stance, if it can be enjoyed equally by those it's aimed at and those it's making fun of, it hasn't worked. This hasn't worked
It seemed to work back then, sadly. There’s so many women audience members ‘enjoying’ the jokes made at their expense. I’m honestly surprised any dude was able to talk his girlfriend or wife into spending one day of their LA vacay at a TV studio just to watch ‘The Man Show’
@@m.k.mcgill yeah, the misogyny was so normalised, no one wanted to be the party pooper
Disclaimer: I am in NOWAY justifying what happened, or condoning the tragic and evil terrorist attack on the Charlie Hebdo employees.
That was one thing that got me during the "je suis Charlie" movement. I really struggled to buy that their comic strips were innocent satire making fun of the biggots, rather than marginalised groups and vulnerable people. The Charlie Hebdo comics were just really horribly offensive and while they definitely did not deserve what happened to them; I was not comfortable agreeing with the "Je Suis Charlie" message because I also don't think what they published (to a much, much smaller scale) was right either.
@thanks why are you spamming every response with this?!
A perfect example to counter this nonsense is Stephen Colberts Colbert Report, it was very distinct in its satire and that it was a negative depiction of Conservative media.
Last place I wanna be in world is the room when Jimmy Kimmel's daughter sees him say all this misogynistic shit when she inevitable discovers this
every person who blames their inability to “make jokes” upon “cancel culture” and misses the “good old days” when people “took jokes” should watch this. some people gotta hear that if they can’t be comedic without putting people down then they simply aren’t that funny
Honestly still funnier then half the shit made now a days
@@wolftitanreading5308 no. I would'n waste my time on shit like "the man show" or Logan Paul. None of it is funny. Maybe if your IQ is below 100 you might enjoy it. Or if you are easy to manipulate to follow others. Lack of self esteem is also a big reason why someone would laugh just because the can laughter is laughing. Or the audience is responding to the big sign lighting up with the letters "L A U G H". Other tricks would be employees placed in the audience to start the laughter and have the insecure people start laughing as well for the same reason. Afraid of coming of as slow or not being part of the crowd they are sourrounded by.
But you do you. I'm sure it'll get you far in life.
@@wolftitanreading5308hell no
@@asha7389 hell yes, most of what we got is boring sanitize shit
The “Maybe they call the show a damn because it stops woman from getting wet” is the best, It made me so happy
I lost it at that I was like damn
that was dam funny
Bahaha me too 😆
I know🤣🤣🤣🤣
same
Kurtis looks like he teleported straight out of the 70s in a good way.
Why is there alot of bots here
@@itskurapikasfacenotsailorm 21 kids reckoning
i hope that ''classic disney'' will be an ongoing running joke forever, because it cracks me up every time
So I had a friend that loved this show when we were about 13. Like he was devoted. Would watch every episode. For comparison he was raised Catholic by two parents who were consistently unhappy in their marriage and his brother would constantly try and fist fight his dad. My family had it's own set of issues but most of them were related to the absence of my father and the fact that I had to be raised by my mother, sister, and grandmother all of whom obviously were women. I remember being straight puzzled by his interest in this show because the shit they said just didn't bear fruit as far as I was concerned about the women I knew in my life.
Is he doing ok now? Like I hope he was able to outgrow like some of the family issues he was facing or at least learned to deal with them and most importantly have realized that most of the things on the Man Show were bs.
@@dolphindiver7724 I haven't seen or heard from him in about 20 years or so. Not since we were about 15. I don't really have very much of a presence on social media so we never reconnected like a lot of people do in this age. He went through a period where he was a bit racist because his brother became heavily racist. We were best friends through elementary school and middle school. The last I heard he was going to like a kind of private high school when we were teenagers so I think it probably did him good to get outside of his family situation. He was a straight a student and his family was very wealthy compared to mine so being that he eventually got outside his family situation, hewas a good student, and his family had money as an asset he probably went to college and became successful. Or at least that's what I tell myself.
@@jackcoleman1784 Ah well thank you for answering my question
"The audience didn't get it." Have you considered that you were just bad writers. Offensive humor is actually really hard to accomplish, I don’t know why hack-job writers think it's the easiest form of comedy.
thats because they dont realize that saying something offensive phrased as a joke doesnt automatically make it humor
agreed offensive humor like carlin and chapelle work because they had an honest satirical edge and they punched up didn't punch down.
@@ddjsoyenby Chapelle definitely punches down. Carlin is a good example
I think It's Always Sunny is a great example of dark offensive humor done actually well
He sounds like Shane Dawson lol
"They were poking fun at the toxicity of men's bad behaviour."
Jimmy Kimmel: *literally chases a woman while repeatedly yelling at her to have sex with him*
I feel like they were "trying," like it seems the joke is that they are these desprate toxic people and look how dumb and terrible they are, which they showed by just being dumb and terrible and harrassing women on the street. So maybe they were going for satire but they just did a horrible job.
i can see how he would be the butt of the joke in that one but like... he's still sexually harassing women...
@@the-postal-dude yeah no matter what they say to defend it, “it’s just a joke” “it’s satire” “it’s making fun of that behavior” those women still weren’t in on it, therefore it was still harassment. Whether it was “for a joke” or not.
@@the-postal-dude honestly think it could have been much better if these things were just scripted
wouldnt make it funny per say, but at least it wouldnt be outright harassment
@@sg-yo4kp agreed
Oh.
Oh gosh.
That going up to random women on the street and asking for sex one was just...
Ugh.
I think we should re-make the man show. But this time Kurtis will host it and it will only be monkeys farting.
can I just say as a woman I would be genuinely terrified if someone chased me down the street and this show horrifies me
I get anxiety anxiety anytime some stranger even looks at me, so if I was getting chased then I’m not sorry but I’m going to assume I have to defend myself and it’s not going to be pretty lmao
as a man I would also be genuinely terrified if someone chased me down the street
@@timetraveler_from_2012 Absolutely horrible, my anxiety would ramp up alot. I'd imagine they were a serial killer
I have been genuinely followed down the street, chased, many a time - it’s not funny.
Saying it’s a joke doesn’t make it funny.
Saying you’re either too hot and they can’t help it or you’re not even hot so you should know they don’t mean it like that…is beyond stupid.
You’ve never been chased down the street? You must not be that attractive then
“They’re making fun of you” was actually so sad. I’m glad she said something.
This video made me sad and mad but it also made me laugh a lot which was cool.
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Honestly this show just makes me wanna watch Johnny Bravo, a cartoon that nails down the exact satire this one was trying to aim for, by ACTUALLY making fun of the horny guy. He fails at nearly every attempt to woo girls over, and is the butt of every joke. Plus they don't just make him this irredeemable incel, they do give him some likeable traits, like how much of a momma's boy he is.
This show just portrays men being cruel to women, and doesn't really commentate on it in a way that makes it obviously a satire on sexism. You could show that opening to a crowd of incels with no context, and they'd be cheering it on instead of laughing.
Edit: Okay uh...wow...apparently the creator of this show, Adam Carolla just recently went on to join The Daily Wire in making Mr Birchum, which I'm sure you all are familiar with. I'm starting to think the man show wasn't a joke like he said it was.
18:53 This could totally be a Tim Robinson bit on "I Think You Should Leave"
The “will you have sex with me?” segment cannot be accepted as satire. That happens in reality to women and it’s one of the reasons going out in public feels so much more tiring and risky as a woman. Those women actually felt uncomfortable in that moment and that is not funny.
Right? Like when you’re CHASING a woman screaming for them to fuck you, you aren’t ”satirizing people who harass women”. You can’t just do something and say ”yooo calm down i was just kidding”
exactly. they totally were making scared women the butt of the joke when they were supposed to be satirizing themselves
FR, like it's literal harrassment and just watching it made me uncomfy
"relax bro, i was assaulting you ironically to hold a mirror up to all those dumb people who commit violent crimes against strangers"
This literally happens all the time to women and it’s not fun.
The clip of Kimmel chasing that woman down the street shouting at her is actually terrifying. Like if that happened to me I think I would cry
I know I would cry.
How does that work even? Did those women sign releases or they just aired it without releases?
@@xanderliptak I mean not in all cases. My aunt attended an Ellen show live and Ellen pulled a prank where she jumped out at people in the bathroom stalls of the studio. My aunt was one of the people shown and she didn’t sign anything.
@@emmy8526 you coudln't see her face so I doubt she knows
I know right?! That shit is legitimately scary
I think things like the Man Show are why “man hating feminists” exist. Obviously “man hating feminist” is an oxymoron because feminism preaches gender equality, but even as a feminist myself, I sometimes find it genuinely hard to not at least *dislike* men. It feels so awful to say it because I know there are still men (Kurtis being a good example) that aren’t like that at all, but shit like the Man Show just makes me resent masculinity as a whole. If a lot of people believe masculinity is despising and over sexualizing women, burying all your emotions, and being angry all the time then I’ll have you know I want no part of it whatsoever. I just don’t understand how they can’t see how wrong that is.
Honestly as a women,I am fine with feminists if they realise men are important,just like we are
I'm curious. Do you not have any friends that are men? Like a singular dude on yt should not be your only point of reference for good people of the opposite gender.
@@ihatehandles6969 what? she used kurtis as an example because everyone reading the comment knows who he is. why make this an issue lmao
@@clvno the statement definitely framed in such a way where she seems like she doesn't know the men she is referencing in this instance. When you say "I know they exist" it implies that it goes against personal experience.
@@ihatehandles6969 because it probably does go against personal experience lmao... personally, the shitty men in my life far, _far_ outweigh the decent ones.
It's such a fresh breath of air to watch a man criticise toxic masculinity and sexism and just be a genuine feminist. I'm not really surrounded by many progressive cis men irl so seeing that there are indeed some that don't hate women is really comforting and it makes living feel a little safer and better. Thank you so much, it really means a lot to many women out there, especially young women, and it's so lovely to see.
the "it's a joke" argument doesn't really hold up when you consider the women in the final segment went home completely unaware of what was going on and were possibly scared for their lives... and then imagine later finding out the man who did that to you got his own TV show.
thankfully they probably had to sign a release to have their faces not blurred (i know it’s that way today but i’m not sure how it was in the 2000s). so as awful as that “””bit””” was, hopefully they left the situation knowing it was for a show
I mean I agree and I think Jinny kimmel is super duper not funny or like able, but do you think it’s possible he has changed in 20 years? Like how long is the prison stint for not being PC?
@@victormacdougall6395 for me it’s a decade. If something that was said or done a decade ago and it wasn’t a literal crime and it just a shitty joke or POV and the person has grown a bit since, then I don’t hold it against. If they are just as shitty now, I’d “cancel” them for the shit they said in the last 10 months instead of 10 years. At least that’s my line
@Alexander Liptak I mean I don’t think this was satirical at all. What would you say to defend this as satire?
@@xanderliptak How on earth did that shitty skit 'destroy' the argument?
Thinking about the fact that the show Golden Girls is at least 10 years older than the Man's Show and still tackled on issues and taboo subjects with finesse. That's why I find it hard to use the "oh it was a long time ago, times were different" excuse
Golden girls was 1985-1992 or something like that and I just feel like they covered topics but did it with class and dignity, like when they thought rose might have had aids and they were informing the public that friends can have aids and it’s not just horrible monsters, but your neighbor or best friend can get it through no fault of their own
YES, i was literally about to comment that.
reminded me of the episode when Dorothy's friend came to visit, and she was a lesbian and ended up being attracted to Rose. They never made her sexuality a joke, but the joke was mostly around Blanch's reactions to not being the one that her friend was attracted to. And even when Rose turned her down, it was respectful and her explaining she just didn't feel that way about the opposite sex. Golden Girls was a show that was so ahead of its time.
That's why they're the Golden Girls ,';^3
Every episode of The Golden Girls was just Dorothy saying, "Blanche, you're a whore".
Even as a guy this kind of thing disgusts me, women deserve much better than this. I've never understood the "joke" either, it always just seems like thinly veiled hatred and misogyny to me
Simp
@@Hrod24go make love to a cold beef sandwich
@@Hrod24dude what? He’s just saying that he just think disrespecting women is not cool
@@Hrod24simp? More like... Shrimp!
Could I get a Fried rice, please, Mr Toon?
It was a joke so bad no one knew it was a joke
The important thing to delineate satire from sincerity is subversion. If one episode they said “ay, we decided there’s too many girls on THIS show!” and replaced all the dancing girls with dudes in speedos, that’d be pretty funny.
that WOULD be pretty funny. They could do like a string of handsome models and then do a fat guy with a comeover mugging like a playboy bunny.
I'm not saying I'm a comedic writing genius. I'm saying that literally the most obvious joke is better than the tripe they peddled as """"""""""""""""""""""""comedy""""""""""""""""""""""""" .
@@SavageGreywolf they litteraly wouldn't do that cause that's "gay"
You’re a better writer than Kimmel!
this is funnier than anything jimmy kimmel has ever said or written
@@SavageGreywolf You're correct but also let's not go calling people's writing tripe and cliche when your suggestion was a fat shaming joke
aren't straight men supposed to like women
if you look closely, you can see that they also feel ashamed that they like women, whom they are conditioned to simultaneously desire and despise because that's what Being a Man is (apparently) !
Straight Culture is terrifying
It’s interesting to see people simultaneously ask someone to marry them whilst bitching about the fact that said person exists... like jeez, if you hate them so much then maybe don’t be with them 😂
@@ghostofmisao. imagine being scared of why you're alive
they do like women, but they are also not spineless wimps who say whatever fake nonsense they think she wants to hear like kurtis would.
My headphones died right when my mom started a phone call for *work* , like for her actual *job* and all anyone heard was: 16:25
21:40 but... but I...
A not so rare example of neo having an identity crisis
I was not expecting that jumpscare of James Corden thrusting his crotch. I demand compensation.
That you for the trigger warning, I'll be on guard and prepared!
@@ElementalWhispers haha I was about to say the same thing! 😅
If you or a loved one have been affected by James Corden in a rat costume thrusting his crotch, you may be entitled to financial compensation
So Jimmy really expected those women he was harassing to be like "This man chasing me at full speed down the street begging me to have sex with him is probably just making fun of men who would do that."
"at first i was scared, but if it's ironic then i guess i should just laugh?"
I always knew there was something “off” about Jimmy Kimmel and now that I’ve learned about this show that he created and was a part of, I now get why I had the feeling of uncomfortableness everytime I would see him on tv or on social media
I knew him from the man show and found his new place as a liberal media darling a strange twist in his narrative arc. I guess he "re-invented" himself. Today's Jimmy would roast the old Jimmy. There is no there, there. Hollywood. What can you do?
this doesn’t surprise me at all. the way jimmy kimmel harassed megan fox on his show makes me believe he wrote this whole thing.
edit: for those who don't know megan fox went on jimmy kimmel live to promote a film (forgot which one) like 10 years ago and she and jimmy discuss her acting career from when she was younger. the topic of her as a background actor in Bad Boys II comes up, and she tells jimmy that in this film she plays a stripper in a club at 15 YEARS OLD. they show her clip in the scene in its entirety on live television and he makes some of the most disgusting comments about her body, her skimpy outfit and wanting to hook up with her (AGAIN SHE'S 15 IN THIS SCENE AND HE KNOWS IT). the video is on UA-cam still but be warned because its very disturbing to watch, megan is clearly very uncomfortable while jimmy and the audience are laughing at her.
them trying to say it was all satire as if they didn't go out to the actual streets to be actually disrespectful to actual women
FUCKING EXACTLY!!
@@xanderliptak being actually misogynistic is not how satire works, satire only works because the people doing the satire are simulating real life situations and taking them to their extreme in a fictional scenario where everyone is in on the joke cause it's all scripted. Instead of that, they chose to make random women uncomfortable without letting them know it was a bit (cause they had to say it was a bit after the fact to avoid backlash)
Never forget the time that Megan Fox was doing an interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live and was describing how she was grossly sexualized and objectified on a movie set as a literal child and Kimmel couldn't have been happier about it. She was clearly uncomfortable. Also, this show couldn't be farther from satire, how is it satire if it is actually how men act and is behavior that they see no problem with?
Thanks for bringing this up
He literally said “well that’s how most men think” when she was talking about being sexualized at age 14…gross
@@xanderliptak your definition actually shows why it isn’t be satire. Because the purpose should be to “expose and criticize” so since they don’t actually see a problem with these things or seek to expose or criticize men who are this way, the show is not satire.
Kitchen
@@stephencurry4835 war
The "girls jumping on trampolines" bit every episode was not the source of my body image issues, but it certainly didn't help.
beatboxing puppy
The scream at the beginning made me drop my fruit cup, Kurtis.
Rip, three bots in a row
Robots are taking over
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not the fruit cup 😭
No, not your fruit cup, KURTIS HOW COULD YOU!
the lines from in the show did not sound like they were delivered like jokes, they just sound like those types of guys that just say offensive shit and say it's a joke afterward if you don't agree with them.
This show was fucking amazing
@@BokuNoFreelo Leave.
@@erikapavedtheway theyre just tryna get attention i would just report them and go on bout my day
19:40
how is this man not in jail for sexual harrassment...
what the F u c k
Watching this and reading through the comments- I feel beyond lucky that I grew up with a dad that didn’t entertain this kind of humor. I’m the youngest of three girls, and my dad has never once belittled any of us for any reason, especially our gender. We share hobbies (woodworking, horror novels, lotr, marvel films, building things, gardening, and foraging) and love sharing ideas, and he’s my biggest supporter when it comes to wanting to go into the agriculture field or starting a homestead.
I used to have a friend, though, whose dad was a lot like these guys. I’ll never forget being fifteen and leaving their house crying because he called me a lesbian because my friend and I slept on top of the same heated blanket at night in their freezing cold blanket in the winter. Or the times he made countless sexist jokes with his eldest son in front of his three daughters. That friend hates their dad with a passion now. Last I talked to her, her step-mom (who she ((and my entire family)) adores) filed for divorce because he was constantly putting her down, gaslighting her, the list could go on.
Sexist humor isn’t humor, it’s just putting a very thin blanket over just plain sexism. And the blanket really isn’t hiding anything
Eldest of three girls here and sadly our Dad hates women. He'd never say that of course, but it couldn't be more obvious. He wouldn't see this as satire for a minute. It sucks to grow up seeing your Dad laugh at this kind of crap. I wish the writers could understand how that feels.
"oh that's the type of light I use" is peak hilarity!
Excellently funny
this is the actual official account WHAT?????
Oh look the people who deserved to win Eurovision 2020 and 2021
@@user-gi4qd6dc3z facts
@@luca553 yeah! I mean, Italy’s win was totally deserved, but I just personally enjoyed “10 years” more (and Think About Things is honestly the best take on a “I love my child” song I’ve *ever* heard)
People will really say the most offensive or uncomfortable thing then when they get backlash just claim it was a joke or satire so they can get away with it. If you can’t make jokes without being offensive, then you’re not actually funny
I always thought people where just airing their shitty beliefs and when they get called out for it, try to absolve themselves of all responsibility by saying its a joke.
How the fuck is "abolish women's suffrage" offensive? Women didn't have the right to vote for >100,000 years of human history until the last one hundred years. Are you saying that all the humans that existed before your great grandma were "offensive"?
Schrodinger’s Douchebag in a nutshell.
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@@fendviyo Yeah. Basically, if you ask them to explain the joke and the explanation is bad, it was never a good joke to begin with. Stuff like rape/or SA jokes, racist jokes, etc. It’s funny to see them stutter when they have to explain the joke.
When will people realize that satire doesn't function if it has the same real-world effect as the thing it is attempting to satirize
This gives the same vibe as red-pill podcasts
I remember seeing The Man Show as a kid and wondering why people got married if they just ended up hating each other. That whole "I hate my horrible wife" boomer cliche was rampant in that show and even back then it just seemed sad to me.
Religion is probably why I’d say. But yeah people shouldn’t Mary those they don’t like.
@@5ashll303 🤡
@@ItsOnPaper why am I a clown, don’t think I said anything stupid
@@ItsOnPaper ?
@@5ashll303 you got it right, king.
I appreciate how almost every single man in the show, whether hosting or in the audience, is consistently dressed exactly like how you’d imagine people who enjoy this show do. It’s got to be some of the blandest, most bowling rink or tiki bar set of clothes I’ve ever seen.
gender: bowling rink, oh my god thats so funny ahahahahas adfsdj
mans acting like kurtis isn’t also dressed like a tourist in Hawaii
a kurtis conner watcher who’s also an aki stan???!2&2984929-@!.!,!?:2 marriage when?
@@blackironwalterkus3851 He absolutely is, but to me it kinda feels more like “70’s tourist in Hawaii for a surfing competition” than “I think I’m going to ask the Hawaiian waitress if she can speak English”
@@rayyyyy7698 &/,&38;8/&,$2&:& You’re the first person to notice Aki actually!! I’m super glad someone noticed. Thank you for seeing it!
I like this comment section. It feels good to see people who care.
And then there are some sexist people
Not me googling “is Jimmy Kimmel married?” Following “is Jimmy Kimmel a bad husband?”
FF
This made me realize that if Jimmy Kimmel was young right now he'd probably be a douchetuber 😭
Jimmy Kimmel is a media Leech i seriously dont know why we keep him around
@@doxskew2221
I dunno and I don't care...
@@doxskew2221 Ever since I saw that interview he did with Megan Fox, I’ve never really liked him.
@@clownmommy01 yeah I was really disappointed and disgusted 😐
He’s one of those rare people that pisses off everyone, yesterday he said that anyone who drinks “horse goo” doesn’t deserve to be in the icu
“Loving boobies while simultaneously hating the women they’re attached to.” That sums up modern misogyny completely.
No, it sums up intergender relations for the last billion years. Like this is some craaazzzyyy thing that should be upsetting and shocking…like women don’t also hate men. Fuck me, people are dumb nowadays. Twitter opinion having, buzzfeed headline regurgitating, zero outlook motherfuckers…bahhhh…
Damn what happened with the replies here
@@dontcheckinsideyourcloset
They went “staunchly in favor of coco puffs”
Edit: then they went away 🤨
@@manifestgtr understandable have a nice day
Guys it was nice comment and hot take by Kurtis,everyone else other than the main commenter,Just shut the fuck up and get a life
these two dudes are quintessential "victims of divorce court"
"this is satire on toxic male behavior. That's why, instead of making satire, we just did toxic male things for real"
By the end I was like “damn, can’t believe they showed all that in their show” and then you said the PILOT. ALL THAT WAS IN THE FIRST EPISODE? Jesus😭
*DAM
kurtis really does look like the son of all the queen members together
or the beetles merged into one JDJWJD
🤣 🤣
I cannot unsee it now, damn.
I suppose that's better than saying a predator...lol
ohmygod wait, i see it
8 minutes in and all the bits from the show have already made me consider banging my head against the wall until the wall breaks because it would be less painful than watching these small bits from the show.
Not a fan of sarcasm I see. American dude
@@bhvillaman4401 who is american?
I was 7 when The Man Show started and I watched Comedy Central all the time. Even then, when I was SEVEN YEARS OLD, I saw the promos and thought “ew, looks sexist.”
I remember being a 9 year old kid when this show was airing, and my dad made fun of how sexist and chauvinistic it looked any time the commercials for it came on. Man, I have a cool dad. (POINT OF CLARIFICATION: Kurtis Conner is not my dad)
Your dad is awesome!
Props to your dad, he's very respectful :)
Yeah now i dont believe you, what is like to be Kurtis' son?
How does it feel being the mayor's son
Dang, can we all be adopted by your dad? Seriously, please, my dad would have loved the Man Show if he knew any channels outside of ESPN, the news, and Cinemax existed.
Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you're laughing at people that are hurting its not satire its bullying. The ENTIRE audience is men and theyre REALLY excited about it. Its not satire.
To make this show effective, the audience would be mostly women laughing at the antics of the men and supporting the women who tell them to Fuck off
Nah. There's tons of examples of popular satires that don't exclusively take swipes at the powerful...even Sasha Baron Cohen's recent stuff contains a mixture. And, by the way, the premise of this statement kind of goes against the show, since it's a satire of douchebags. There may be innocent casualties along the way, but the satirical humour often doesn't function without that added element. Also, it's weird that some people have arbitrarily decided that the "powerful" are deserving of ridicule, as though they're not human beings with feelings that are just as valid. It's all fair game, depending on the intent.
@@SallyMankus130 aww the mysoginists have feewings🥺🥺
Too bad :/
@@SallyMankus130 Found the misogyny!
@@SallyMankus130 why should misogynists be treated with respect when they don't treat women with respect?
I wanna know how those women felt working behind the scenes of that show and what made them work there in the first place.
I was at a bar the other day when a guy commented on a female politician who screwed up.
Him: "we should never have allowed women to vote".
Me: "oh, because no man has ever made a bad decision?"
Him: "yes, when we gave you the right to vote"
And dude, I'm so mad, but also, god damn, that comeback was so good
No. That comeback was absolute shit. Lol. Men did not "give" us the right to vote. It's not like the council of men met up- took a vote amongst it's members and then announced- "Wives and daughters- we've decided to give you a gift. We have decided to allow you to have a right to representation in the governing body- you probably sometimes have thoughts or preferences about the way things work here in our country- even if it's mostly concerning education for the children and access to quality groceries. We are thrilled to tell you- you get to start voting now! Yay!"
They never decided to allow us to have the right to vote and to frame it that way is such a mark of DEEP misogyny in one's worldview and narrative.
Women fought. Violently and brutally. And protested. And both killed AND died to secure the right to vote. Even then it was only white women and women of color were thrown under the bus for another almost *century*.
The demonstrations of the suffragettes were violent and bloody. This is what history textbooks tend to leave out and it's why people think that protesters "nowadays" somehow "go too far" by demanding justice through civil disobedience.
The first wave of women's voting rights came after an extremely brutal period of intense demonstration. One more well known suffragette served life in prison for attacking a particularly sexist, crude and frankly damn near evil congressman with an AXE. She served life in prison for murder- and this was planned. It was a premeditated attack only after years and years of ongoing dismissal of the movement and ongoing attacks he organized via encouraging his constituents to break into homes of the feminist organization members who weren't married and to r@pe them. .. 😳
She knew she'd be going to prison and never see her own right to vote. She made that sacrifice for the movement. They issued several warnings- this congressman was very blase and foolhardy. At the time- women weren't believed to be capable of true morbid violence. She chose to use an axe as her weapon to send a message loud and clear:
The continued denying of our right to exercise sovereign personhood - and even to sleep safely in our homes without fearing attacks, which most often go unpunished, anyway,
That women have declared war. That we are done asking politely. That we have women in our cause who are passionate enough to die or serve life over the rights of future women and girls, if that's what it takes.
unironically this would be something the dad from Matilda would watch
Let’s get sticky with micky!!!!
YOURE SO RIGHT BAHAHA
That was really specific but yeah I can see it lmao
100% for sure, man’s got trash taste in just about anything. I was very glad when Matilda glued that ugly-ass hat to his head so both him and the hat partially got what was coming for them.
Kinda ironic considering Danny Devito is one of the nicest and kind celebrities
The Man Show didn't actually age poorly in the same way that dogshit left in the sun doesn't age poorly. It was shit to begin with, time just made it stink worse.
Well said indeed
Yeah, even as a teen/young adult at the time, I thought it was stupid. And I enjoy edgy comedy. Man Show was just not good.
This is a bad metaphor. Dog shit stops smelling once it dries. I can't think of anything good except off like a bucket of prawns in the sun? But that's usually what we'd say when we're leaving.
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You got to know your show is bad when the best part is the monkey fart sketch.
at the time john ritter died, i was dating this nymphomaniac who literally cried when she found out john ritter had passed away because he had been one of her first crushes. 20+ years later and i still think that's weird.
Even if their defense of the show being satirical was true (which I don't believe) that segment of Jimmy asking women on the street to have sex with him is real harassment. What a gross concept for a show and even grosser execution.
Are you really surprised? I’m not. Jimmy just said in a monologue on his show recently that unvaccinated people don’t deserve medical help. Aba & Preach just did a video on it on their channel if you wanna check it out.
Jimmy is a mason
@Roby Walker idk if you know but being pressured and coerced under cameras and tv show personalities often leads to situations where women and others sign their consent and autonomy away when otherwise they wouldnt. Check out any of the many accounts of porn actresses being coerced mid scene into performing acts they werent comfortable with and specifically had in their contracts they wouldnt do. This vile behavior isnt forgiven because of them signing anything.
Also consider, if these women were "okay" with this there were likely many others he harassed who refused to sign and therefore werent being aired.
@@Lola_Nico the building jimmy kimmel live used to be one of the main biggest Masonic temples for rituals and meetings n shit...sooo if that doesn’t say a lot, idk what does, look into it! It’s creepy 😬 he’s just another one of the fucking puppets.
@@TheKatarinaGiselle yes! You know wtf you’re talking about
I mean, if this was intended to be satire...these writers do not know how to write satire. Just BEING the thing you are satirizing doesn't mean you are satire. Satire requires commentary and this show lacked it completely.
My teacher played a clip of this for my middle school history class. Why? Who knows.
I grew up in a very misogynist town and I even watched this show on TV to understand why other guys my age loved it so much but still couldn't and I was a teen aged boy! Then, give me all the boobs and butts but even then to me, it was just gross.
Like watching a creepy middle aged dude hit on a much younger hooters waitress for an hour with some sad sketch comedy added in. Why would I subject myself to that? Only saw a couple episodes when it aired.