You ever tried to race someone where one of you takes lots of quick stops (every 100km maybe) and one tries to take the fewest stops possible? And maybe one other driver splitting the difference. I'd love to see what a difference that would make.
Read recently that there is a software update for the cooling issue with the Mach-E. They can apparently be on a massive cooling binge while charging. It should be fixed by Ford now.
Hi @Bjørn Nyland! Don't trust the trip counter 1 and 2 as only current trip counter show the right values. There must be a bug. I have seen several Videos, where the Mach-e peaks out @ 22kWh/100km and stays there, no matter if you consume more. So, it would be interresting, if you could do some investigation. ;)
Thanks for the video. Mach E looks like a good choice but, at this point, the Ioniq5 AWD is my top choice. Still waiting for official info about it for the USA
Hej Björn, I have a question, should I choose Mache-e RWD or ID-4 GTX (or ID-5 GTX)? I mean in terms of quality, reliability, performance and comfort. Range is not important now.
I don't understand why these non-tesla makers do not implement a way of checking the details of charging, kw etc from the car itself... EV drivers love to see that numbers (me too) and I would more likely go for a brand like Tesla that can display this kind of data
@@abraxastulammo9940 only by length, there’s more to it than that. Ford operates in silos. Their front drive train has a completely different design to the rear. The robotic welds on the left were programmed by a different guy from the ones on the right.
Hmm, beaten pretty handily by the Ioniq5 AWD, which is also much faster around town too. I think this Mach-E has a sweet spot if you can make a trip in one charge to take advantage of its long range without being punished by the slower charging.
@@Speed_7545 thought it was crossover cause of the height but i still think that the average speed affects the overall test thats why it is diff to compaire it.
@@krohner5190 I think the ioniq5 and Mach-e compare quite well in terms of utility and cargo space. They both fit into that small suv segment (whatever people like to label it as). It will be interestingto see how the LR rwd ioniq 5 does.
@@Frosticus453 agreed but cause of the avg speed is diff to say that mach e was beaten by ioniq5. Ioniq5 was tested with avg speed 110 while mach e with avg speed 90. That is why Bjorn is talking about etron. Tje cars er grouped with avg speed if im not mistaken.
4:45 a lot has changed when we complain about only getting 74kw/h charging speed. Just a few years ago, most EV’s wouldn’t get those speeds. EV cars are really evolving fast
@@brottochstraff You’re lucky. I have the Hyundai Kona but, in my country, the faster charger available is a 50kwh so, you see, I can not even use all the ability of my car.
Mine usually stays at 75ish kw after like 5 min 😂 until complete. I hope they can fix this with a software update. I'm also fairly certain that they can allowed higher charging rates, up to 350kw, with software updates.
I have this car in my focus (SR, RWD version). Would be interesting to know the reason why it takes Ford engineers so long to correct the charing curve. I think it was Sandy Monroe who first provided info on the charging and decribed that strange charging "feature": it should always take the max power only first (3?) minutes (almost) irrespectively of the SOC. So might be unplugging/plugging-in again when it drops to
Such an interesting car Ford has released straight out of the ev gate, they did a fantastic job, though it is a little too expensive. I never noticed before how American Norway looks with huge wide motorways, large service centre’s off the motorways and it’s all very car centric. Of course they have well kept infrastructure Americans could only dream of due to Norwegian taxes and oil wealth footing the bill, it is such an interesting place, have to admit I’m a little jealous of how well it’s run. Can’t build or update anything in uk without decades of environmental studies that never even satisfy the environmental lobby no matter what the report says and they inevitably protest, throw paint, dig themselves into tunnels blocking construction so nothing gets built whether it’s a desperately needed airport expansion, a new motorway finally getting built or a train line that should be supported by the environmentalists if they had any logic. Yeah, great car but now I’m just thinking about Norway to be honest
The saying is: For an American a hundred years is a long time, for an European a hundred miles is a long distance. Here in Sweden/Norway I would say we're leaning a bit to the American side in that matter. At the gas station today I had a Ram 1500 on one side and a Ford F-150 on the other. A sight you wont find in southern Europe (and by southern I mean Germany :D)
@@parsave4561 gods, that is shocking, Ford doesn’t even sell the f-150 in uk anymore (do have ranger fwiw) and ram trucks are kinda available, though it’s a weird low volume setup. Tbf, I suppose Scandinavian countries are very large with populations that are relatively small and with people that are known to enjoy outdoor activities which all fit into American pickup truck marketing. Moving back to Europe a few years ago after living in US for 17 years, they’re just not vehicles I picture when I think of Europe and the roads he was driving on in the video looked more American than European but just impeccably well maintained (& with roundabouts obv). That 100 year/mile saying has a lot of truth to it
@@markdickson3820 Officially they don’t sell these pickups in Sweden either, but the dealerships import them either way. I couldn’t find any sales statistics for full size trucks in Europe, but by eyeballing it I would say Scandinavia has a ton more trucks than the UK or Germany. Not in any way the amount you will find in the US though. Norway and Sweden are like the little USA of Europe in many aspects. The roads here in Sweden resemble the American ones even more so than the Norwegian ones. Our economy got a head start after ww2 (because of reasons 🤐). So car infrastructure really took off in the 50s like it did in the US. The low population density that you mentioned allowed some stretches to be built wide and perfectly straight. Now as they are getting older the quality might not be the greatest. The Norwegian roads are newer and curvier because of all their mountains.
Hmmm, this doesn't seem that good. In fact, a lot about this car when reading the forums aren't good. Bjorn is often too kind. Way too kind. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but this thing took 1 hour longer than the LR 3 to reach its destination? And that's in a country where the charging infrastructure is superior. Even if you're not a Tesla fan, there seems to be a long list of EVs that would do a better job at long trips than this.
@@bjornnyland Correct, but same result. I believe the last challenge I saw between the 3/Y vs Mach-e, had the Mach-e completing it about 2 hours behind them.
@@MrSportauspuff 600-660km then one charging session for 30min and then 400-360km and he's done. He could even drive 700 km if the conditions are favorable and even charge for kess than 30mins
Taste is debatable! I like it, quite conventional but rather good looking! The good thing with capitalism is that there are other cars to choose from if you don’t like it!
Bjorn, just wanna say thanks for making all your videos. Very excellent coverage of EV's and your videos are very chill and relaxing to watch! :)
I really can't agree more !
You ever tried to race someone where one of you takes lots of quick stops (every 100km maybe) and one tries to take the fewest stops possible? And maybe one other driver splitting the difference. I'd love to see what a difference that would make.
Read recently that there is a software update for the cooling issue with the Mach-E. They can apparently be on a massive cooling binge while charging. It should be fixed by Ford now.
2:47 “this car is simply amazing… so is the parking”
Car parked half way outside the spot
😂😆
I’m LOL
I laughed so at he's comment.
Yes, the mustang is on my list when my lease on the M3 is up.
My moms Ford Mustang E ⚡🐎, charge with over 100 kw up to around 80% now with the newest software update.
Hi @Bjørn Nyland! Don't trust the trip counter 1 and 2 as only current trip counter show the right values. There must be a bug. I have seen several Videos, where the Mach-e peaks out @ 22kWh/100km and stays there, no matter if you consume more. So, it would be interresting, if you could do some investigation. ;)
Interesting. Thanks for the info. I will test more next time I have the car.
These videos are great combined with Sandy Monroe for the nuts & bolts.
I like it says “ground speed”. 😀
A really great time and improving charging speed will make it insanely fast for an SUV.
Thanks for doing these challanges. Means a lot for the EV community
7:05 Probably the last place I ever see a Hummer in Norway
Thanks for the video. Mach E looks like a good choice but, at this point, the Ioniq5 AWD is my top choice. Still waiting for official info about it for the USA
What OBD2 are you using
Tip, restart the charging section and the car going to go again 140kw. Only charge that speed for 15 min.
Tip: You will lose 1-2 minutes of re-plugging and handshake. And the 140 kW only lasts for a few seconds. Not worth it at all.
Hej Björn,
I have a question, should I choose Mache-e RWD or ID-4 GTX (or ID-5 GTX)? I mean in terms of quality, reliability, performance and comfort. Range is not important now.
How not to love this guy ❤️💪
Nice.how about to test.aiways u5.🤔
what is the name of this car scanner app? available on iphone?
Car Scanner Elm Obd2 for iOS and Android.
@@EV_OBD got it thanks 😊
Wow thanks for testing. Is it more efficient than a say Model 3 LR RWD?
A few wh difference wont really matter all that much. Perhaps an ebike?
Sorry which program he uses? Thanks :)
Car Scanner
I don't understand why these non-tesla makers do not implement a way of checking the details of charging, kw etc from the car itself... EV drivers love to see that numbers (me too) and I would more likely go for a brand like Tesla that can display this kind of data
When you got like 30ft of cooling system hoses it’s gonna take a lot to cool that battery.
And 2 pumps
And 2 reservoirs
@@abraxastulammo9940 only by length, there’s more to it than that.
Ford operates in silos.
Their front drive train has a completely different design to the rear.
The robotic welds on the left were programmed by a different guy from the ones on the right.
Nice car for a Ford . The high temp will be bad long term degradation of the battery and shorten it's life span me thinks :-)
I’m just currious, is that pink light on the steering wheel visible to the eye with out camera?
No, not to the naked eye.
@@EV_OBD Nice! That was what I thought
It's IR + camera for detecting driver face.
@@bjornnyland Guessed by pip'pups (Jaws theme) and do'doms it's not in use... Should be in this fall with software update, but I doubt it will.
When it is dark/night you can see it with the naked eye, but you don't see it blinking, it's just red IR-lights.
Bjorn, that stretch is a bit slower , compare with the regular route?
Hmm, beaten pretty handily by the Ioniq5 AWD, which is also much faster around town too.
I think this Mach-E has a sweet spot if you can make a trip in one charge to take advantage of its long range without being punished by the slower charging.
I Diff segment (not SUV) Diff average speed and diff roadtrip cause of roadwork. That is why Bjorn is talking about etron and not ioniq5 at the end.
@@krohner5190 Ioniq 5 is an SUV though
@@Speed_7545 thought it was crossover cause of the height but i still think that the average speed affects the overall test thats why it is diff to compaire it.
@@krohner5190 I think the ioniq5 and Mach-e compare quite well in terms of utility and cargo space. They both fit into that small suv segment (whatever people like to label it as). It will be interestingto see how the LR rwd ioniq 5 does.
@@Frosticus453 agreed but cause of the avg speed is diff to say that mach e was beaten by ioniq5. Ioniq5 was tested with avg speed 110 while mach e with avg speed 90. That is why Bjorn is talking about etron. Tje cars er grouped with avg speed if im not mistaken.
4:45 a lot has changed when we complain about only getting 74kw/h charging speed. Just a few years ago, most EV’s wouldn’t get those speeds. EV cars are really evolving fast
I'm happy when i get 74kw/h on my e-niro :D 150Kw/h would be too fast, i would not have time to finish my fika.
@@brottochstraff You’re lucky. I have the Hyundai Kona but, in my country, the faster charger available is a 50kwh so, you see, I can not even use all the ability of my car.
1000km challenge without NeinNeinNeinNein!
@Bjørn would you pick Tesla 3 SR+ LFP or 3 LR?
For Range-Reasons LR, for Money-reasons SR.
What do you need more? 😄
I answer like Björn would…..would you rather pick a Blonde or a Brunette?
@@dexmex5969 Both.
@@Vhipir 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"e-tron go home! " :)
Congrats to Ford for the result.
But, the Mustang Mach-E doesn't have a heat pump, so a cold climate test would be awesome for comparison
Just watch the first test he did, it was when it was winter...
@@ModPhreak Thanks for the heads-up :)
Found it: ua-cam.com/video/1BgzSopM3fQ/v-deo.html
@@jarhmon7353that test in winter is with the Awd though not the RWD
If Ford could just figure out charging they would have something I might consider. Also wish it wasn’t a “coupe suv” or wearing a mustang badge.
thanks mate, another model down
Mine usually stays at 75ish kw after like 5 min 😂 until complete. I hope they can fix this with a software update. I'm also fairly certain that they can allowed higher charging rates, up to 350kw, with software updates.
8:25 Never seen a BK built as an overpass but its really cool :D Is that the ultimate answer to building a fast food for both highway directions ? :D
It's quite common in Germany, too
So they’ve fixed the issue with DC charging that slows up after a few minutes?
Ok, apparently not. Lol
I have this car in my focus (SR, RWD version). Would be interesting to know the reason why it takes Ford engineers so long to correct the charing curve. I think it was Sandy Monroe who first provided info on the charging and decribed that strange charging "feature": it should always take the max power only first (3?) minutes (almost) irrespectively of the SOC. So might be unplugging/plugging-in again when it drops to
@@zenon20911 I’d forgotten about the 80% drop off.
Considering this car has a similar pack size to a model S, it’s kind of crazy that they can’t get a better curve out of it.
@@abraxastulammo9940 at least with EA Plug & Charge works, unlike the ID.4 lol
Love your videos
"E-tron go home"... mach-e 8% 105kW ... haha
Hee Hee, he said weiner... 🤣
Almost 1000km, electric cars in South Africa will be a welcome boost.
We are waiting for Millenium Falcon 1000 km challenge))
Such an interesting car Ford has released straight out of the ev gate, they did a fantastic job, though it is a little too expensive. I never noticed before how American Norway looks with huge wide motorways, large service centre’s off the motorways and it’s all very car centric. Of course they have well kept infrastructure Americans could only dream of due to Norwegian taxes and oil wealth footing the bill, it is such an interesting place, have to admit I’m a little jealous of how well it’s run. Can’t build or update anything in uk without decades of environmental studies that never even satisfy the environmental lobby no matter what the report says and they inevitably protest, throw paint, dig themselves into tunnels blocking construction so nothing gets built whether it’s a desperately needed airport expansion, a new motorway finally getting built or a train line that should be supported by the environmentalists if they had any logic. Yeah, great car but now I’m just thinking about Norway to be honest
The saying is: For an American a hundred years is a long time, for an European a hundred miles is a long distance. Here in Sweden/Norway I would say we're leaning a bit to the American side in that matter. At the gas station today I had a Ram 1500 on one side and a Ford F-150 on the other. A sight you wont find in southern Europe (and by southern I mean Germany :D)
@@parsave4561 gods, that is shocking, Ford doesn’t even sell the f-150 in uk anymore (do have ranger fwiw) and ram trucks are kinda available, though it’s a weird low volume setup. Tbf, I suppose Scandinavian countries are very large with populations that are relatively small and with people that are known to enjoy outdoor activities which all fit into American pickup truck marketing. Moving back to Europe a few years ago after living in US for 17 years, they’re just not vehicles I picture when I think of Europe and the roads he was driving on in the video looked more American than European but just impeccably well maintained (& with roundabouts obv). That 100 year/mile saying has a lot of truth to it
@@markdickson3820 Officially they don’t sell these pickups in Sweden either, but the dealerships import them either way. I couldn’t find any sales statistics for full size trucks in Europe, but by eyeballing it I would say Scandinavia has a ton more trucks than the UK or Germany. Not in any way the amount you will find in the US though.
Norway and Sweden are like the little USA of Europe in many aspects. The roads here in Sweden resemble the American ones even more so than the Norwegian ones. Our economy got a head start after ww2 (because of reasons 🤐). So car infrastructure really took off in the 50s like it did in the US. The low population density that you mentioned allowed some stretches to be built wide and perfectly straight. Now as they are getting older the quality might not be the greatest. The Norwegian roads are newer and curvier because of all their mountains.
22.0 kWh/100 Km is 2.84 Miles per kWh.
I like the look of the car and the back door button are cool. The infotainment not so much
Really? I found it very fast and intuitive. Beats the heck out of the ID4 infotainment system.
@@tokenjoy the ID 4 is a big let down since they just made a ice car into a ev really lazy
@@OrganicStuff1 ööööh not really?
“No, no.. not today son..” 😅
Something seems wrong with KIA CEED consumption figures @ 555 wh/km!
Not wrong. That consumption is correct for a fossil car.
@@bjornnyland aaaah got it, thanks Bjorn
It is so wrong (to consume that much) and that's why we have to transition to EVs ASAP...
@@bilgyno1 indeed it's wrong! That's why I switched to M3 LR :-)
My motorbike has wider tyres 😛
Than i3 ?
It’s because it runs on bicycle wheels 😂😂😂
mmm wiener xD
Burger King spotted !!! ua-cam.com/video/4TDOC2EuZJc/v-deo.html ;)
Hmmm, this doesn't seem that good. In fact, a lot about this car when reading the forums aren't good. Bjorn is often too kind. Way too kind. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but this thing took 1 hour longer than the LR 3 to reach its destination? And that's in a country where the charging infrastructure is superior. Even if you're not a Tesla fan, there seems to be a long list of EVs that would do a better job at long trips than this.
Model 3 is way smaller than Mach-e. Not comparable. Compare it to Model Y instead.
@@bjornnyland Correct, but same result. I believe the last challenge I saw between the 3/Y vs Mach-e, had the Mach-e completing it about 2 hours behind them.
Mercedes EQA did better than mach-e and almost all MEBs. Crazy.
The EQA charges quickly, no matter hot/cold battery always same and crazy big top buffer in the pack. Looking forward for the EQS 1000km test.
@@MrSportauspuff 600-660km then one charging session for 30min and then 400-360km and he's done. He could even drive 700 km if the conditions are favorable and even charge for kess than 30mins
To be fair it did the same, 5 minutes difference is within test error.
If only it looked somewhat like a Mustang...
The rear end looks vomit inducing.
It does... As a SUV
It was a stupid move to call it Mustang being a friggin SUV
@@abraxastulammo9940 .....which makes it even more sad.
First
Sad that it look’s like 💩.
better than the angry frog
Looks really nice in my opinion.
The only good looking EVs are all Tesla. 👍🏻
@@Crs9072 Mach-E back end is one of the ugliest designs in automotive history, looks like it has been rear ended.
Taste is debatable! I like it, quite conventional but rather good looking! The good thing with capitalism is that there are other cars to choose from if you don’t like it!