@@omelvold the issue with Taycan and etron to me is no one has any long term high mileage data on them yet. Literally EVERYONE who’s made packs with pouch cells has had some type of battery issue. Tesla has some fairly impressive long term results with their cylindrical cells, so we’ll see a few years from now I guess?
Don't forget that more and more people with e-tron are reporting 12-15 % degradation after just two years. That's massive vs Tesla that has around 5-8 % after two years.
Bet Bjorn can even make watching paint dry exiting - great job on the sport commentator style, Can't believe I just watched almost 10 min charging screen and found it engaging.
Actually some models delivered now have the new software. It's not only the 80% drop removed, but the whole charging curve should be improved. Looks like Bjørn needs to retest the charging of Mach-E when he gets back to Norway.
Range added after 20 min at 90 km/h EQS : 252 km e-tron GT : 329 km Model S : 285 km Range added after 20 min at 120 km/h EQS : 199 km e-tron GT : 263 km Model S : 209 km I included a 10% loss from what charger delivers for Mercedes and Audi (Tesla displays kWh charged in battery)
@@kingkoolkata Can you send me a message whenever you are driving anywhere near me, that isn't the highway? Just so I can stay indoors for my safety :D
EQS vs iX xDrive50 should be really interesting. 107 vs 105 kWh net capacity, both rated at 200kW peak, both 400V. So extremely similar specs on paper. Will be intereseting to see which company did a better job with charging.
My Mach-E had a software update. It now charges at 45kWh from 80 to 90% now. Also the whole charging rate has improved. They also changed total kW available from 88 to 91kWh of the total 99kWh
Lots of differences in charging efficiency: EQS took 104,7 kWh to charge 90 %, i.e. it would take 116,3 kWh to charge 0-100 % (net capacity of 107 kWh) -> 92 % DC charging efficiency. E-tron GT took 86,6 kWh to charge 87 %, i.e. it would take 99,6 kWh to charge 0-100 % (net capacity of 84 kWh) -> 84 % DC charging efficiency. Mach-e: 95 % Tesla: not possible to calculate as we don't know how much it took from the grid. Can it really be this big difference? Where is it coming from? Is it due to 800 V system (shouldn't that be _more_ efficient with smaller amps?)
The battery cooling cost a Lot of Energie, and temperature coefficient when the weather is warmer or colder. then the current can pass through the cables more easily or more difficult!
If a standard PTC heater is running at 2kW for 1 hour that's already 2kWh that would needed to be deducted from the amount charged to get to the actual efficiency. Same with AC. So if either of the testes is done at very hot/cold temperatures, that already has an effect. Same story for other auxiliaries as well as battery heating/cooling.
I'm more interested in how many "miles/time" were added to the EVs. Sometimes high charging speeds are just there to mask the lower efficiency of a design - where companies just throw more battery cells at the problem and you get to pay for the costs.
10 kWh is just that, 10 kWh. adding range/time is impossible due to several variables like how heavy is your foot? how many passengers? trim level (adding weight), heat pump? rain? which rim size? you can clearly see added kWh and time on every Ionity charger.
@@_TrueDesire_ 10kwh can be 5 miles in a Mercedes, and 10 miles in a Nio, it matters just as much as driving a big gasoline truck vs a compact or sedan. There's some trickiness sure, but it's not that hard really, you can make many variables constant when testing the vehicles. Pick a set of speeds, test the ranges for each at a given temperature and on the same road, that would give us a pretty good guide to work with. Then we look at pack sizes to get the km/kwh measurement, that tells us how far you're going on a given charge rate. One can also measure it against time. Example: If you have one vehicle that sports a 80kwh pack, while the other has 110kwh, but the smaller battery gets you the same distance at about the same speed/weather/road conditions, then clearly one is doing more for each unit of energy. I guess another method can be to travel a certain distance, measure how much was consumed, then check how much that charging stations charged each vehicle. It's doable, just need to decide on realistic criteria.
Hi, how fast you forwarded the video during charging comparison and could you paste the comparison graph between charging time x SOC level in real time? Thank you so much
Interesting is how well those batteries will stay over time. We will see in 5-6 years if they are still working compared to the slower charging. Especially the audi gt 😅 But some decent speed going on now. I would say withthat speed there is almost no negative side anymore. Thats a quick stop for 15min. What I dont like about this kw race is, that KW doesnt mean anything. Km/h charged is the only value that really matters.
They'll be fine. Old Leaf batteries with 22kwh are still working ten years on. You'd have to put in five times more miles to get as much wear out of a EQS' battery.
@@Ohnonomomono lol there is a whole video about how bad these leaf batteries degraded. They have gotten trash😂 But the conclusion was that the battery thermal management is the most important part in battery health.
@@Alex-bl8uh These are very old batteries with very obsolete and lacking battery tech, but STILL they managed to degrade quite nicely, even better than Nissan's expectations. Today's EV's are much more battery-life aware and these things are pretty much solved. The real issue is charging speed now, but even that is about to be solved with 5 minute 100% charging with special batteries made by StoreDot. It's right around the corner, the future looks bright for EV's, and energy storage in general. I'm excited!
@@vl3005 yes you are right. These issues are solved in most cars and thats great. But fast charging is dangerous for the batteries nevertheless. The more energy is moved the more heat is generated. I am not saying that fast charging kills the battery but you really have to watch out for these potential problem. Especially when you mention charging times of 5 minutes. with saying all that. I am also very excited to see what comes next!
it is crazy what german car manufacturers can achieve if they want to go big. the EQS is quite a stunning car. you need a big wallet for that but nevertheless, respect. what a car.
You will find the nice flat charging curve even in Mercedes PHEV with CCS like C300e, A, B250e, S580e etc. The Mercedes E Sprinter rises up from 80 to 90 kW charging power close to 100 % SOC.
Yes, but in reality, it`s much better to have peak charging then flat curve. Who`s going to stop for 45min at fast charger? Better to hammer it and stop for ~20min...
@@rogerstarkey5390 Actually, Tesla intentionally heats up the battery to get faster charging. Cooling down the cells is not an issue. Peak charging curve makes more sense for faster traveling...(if there`s enough charging stations so that`s the key point!)
Interesting enough, my LR++ X is tiny bit faster than that model S. For example the drop below 100kW is at 67%. The difference seems to be about the same across the entire charging curve. Maybe this doesn't have the updated 18650 cells yet?
I had to reduce the playback speed. it's if I'm listening to a horse race commentary. But very nice to see the difference and is in my opinion proof that an 800V system is not the Holy Grail in order to get a high charge speed.
Not sure if you’ve seen it Björn, but there are reports that Tesla have finally increased the charging speed of LG E5D battery! Wondering if you could do a charge comparison between early LG battery and that with 2021.40.6 software & the Panasonic? Would be interesting to see if the LG is now similar to the Panasonic charge curve wise. Thanks
Maybe it’s too much work for little return, but could you plot the charging curves of the different EVs you’ve tested and add it to the Google Sheet? Maybe just in 10% intervals so it’s not too much work.
Hm, I was sceptical about 800 volts batteries, but it make sense, if gross capacity is higher 100 kWh, 500 Amp limitation on EQS seems sadly. I bet charging power can be around 300 kW.
Hi Björn, I appreciate a lot your job, for next ones, if possible, the real comparison would be checking the Km/h charging speed, it makes no sense compare percentage for different kw.h and car charging/discharging efficiencies, thanks
@@bjornnyland oh that's awful. So at an actual supercharger you can't even have optimal charge rate. I'm guessing the plaid/refresh will have standard ccs and not be limited like this. Excited to see your test of that.
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eTron GT for the win!! Guessing a Taycan would be similar? Great video Bjorn! Feels like you're following a horse race!!! DAmmit snuck back in at the end!! WHat on earth was the Audi charging behaviour doing at the end? BMS needs looking at....
@@abraxastulammo9940 actually, no. Watched again and saw the EQS staing longer at 98% than expected. So I fif the math. The charger shows 2.21 kWh (102.456..104.662) being charged after reaching 98%, that's min 1.99 kWh after 10% charging loss (actual loss was below 8% 10%->100% from my calculation), so 1.84% of 107.8 kWh EQS' battery size. It should have shown 99% at least at the end, and mathematically easily could have rounded to 100% already. So it looks like a bug in BMS sticking at showing 98% for too long rather than cheating.
EQS only has a 50,000-mile warranty. I think it's fair to say they don't feel good about the longevity of the battery and the speedy charging probably forewarns that. Looking forward to seeing your S Plaid charging race.
If you compare charged kwhs, eqs charges faster than e-tron gt after 25 minutes. at 25 minutes they had around the same value charged into the battery, which is only 85% on the audi.. weird. You don't typically charge that high, but if you do... ;-)
These are interesting when new...but it will be much more entertaining when the batteries have 100K miles and 5+ years on them. Will they maintain these speeds? doubtful.
Greetings from Stuttgart 😎 but if you had compared with the Taycan, it would had been a Stuttgart Battle.... Event though: places number 1 and 2 for Stuttgart is not bad... the poor US cars are obviously not in hurry..
The higher the voltage the lower the current for the same exact power delivery. Translation: lower current doesn’t need gargantuan wires internally or externally. Give me a 800 VDC system any day. It’s not that they can charge faster it’s just that they can afford to have a whole lot less weight in the form of cables internally to move about the electrons. Doesn’t help it stay cooler anymore because burning electrons is burning electrons.💯
@@abraxastulammo9940 have you ever seen the bus bar on the Tesla Model S Plaid that travels from one end of the battery to the other end of the car? Besides it’s not all about weight savings it’s really about the most efficient way of moving power. The reason the wires that power our homes at the street are not 3 foot in diameter is because the voltage is so high. 💡
What's the point comparing percentage instead of added energy? EQS added 20kWh more than Etron in the same time... Etron barely matched 8y old TMS technology...
Nice fast changing but that no good for the battery, also charging to 100% is also no good so when to battery goes bad in five years if it last that long the bill will be huge to change the battery. Battery technology get better by the day so you suck with the old technology. That’s were Nio takes the cake
That the Tesla is charging slower yes... But it's actually charging more miles per minute because the power train is more efficient. Also battery longevity with a kinder charge curve to the battery.
Edit: It seems even the CCS Adapter can only charge at 150kW max and therefore model s is as hampered as shown in the Video. Therefore ignore the next part about Tesla but Enjoy the Rest of the comment nontheless. My excuse is going to be that the Tesla charging curve was done with a years old setup and at a charger limited to ~135kW instead of a raven or newer model S charging at V3 supercharger. BUT that excuse (for me at least) is more of a joke since i have the capacity to be in awe of what the EQS and the etron GT are capeable of. Hats off to the engineers designing it, they outdid themselves. Hopefully we will se more of that ^^ Especially what the EQS can deliver at higher speeds due to its superior drag coefficient. Its Absolutely insane (good) what you can do with it in germany on the parts of the Autobahn where we have no speed limit.
EQS performed really really well for that battery size and being 400V.
a come back epic win
@@omelvold true it charged like a boss both equal ev
@@omelvold yes we will see the summer results vs winter i drive a nissan leaf lol
@@omelvold the issue with Taycan and etron to me is no one has any long term high mileage data on them yet. Literally EVERYONE who’s made packs with pouch cells has had some type of battery issue. Tesla has some fairly impressive long term results with their cylindrical cells, so we’ll see a few years from now I guess?
Don't forget that more and more people with e-tron are reporting 12-15 % degradation after just two years. That's massive vs Tesla that has around 5-8 % after two years.
Bet Bjorn can even make watching paint dry exiting - great job on the sport commentator style, Can't believe I just watched almost 10 min charging screen and found it engaging.
Mach E is getting a charging curve update fixing the drop at 80%. Some owners have already got it.
Actually some models delivered now have the new software. It's not only the 80% drop removed, but the whole charging curve should be improved. Looks like Bjørn needs to retest the charging of Mach-E when he gets back to Norway.
@@lucas7793 Bjorn definitely needs to test the improved Ford charging speed
I have really enjoyed all the EQS content. Great work Bjorn🙏👊
Mercedes EQS is amazing
It would be really interesting to also add a counter for range added based on the 90km/h consumption test for each contender.
Range added after 20 min at 90 km/h
EQS : 252 km
e-tron GT : 329 km
Model S : 285 km
Range added after 20 min at 120 km/h
EQS : 199 km
e-tron GT : 263 km
Model S : 209 km
I included a 10% loss from what charger delivers for Mercedes and Audi (Tesla displays kWh charged in battery)
I would recommend the 120 kmh consumption, nobody drives 90 with one of these cars😬
@@pve63 You mean winter range added for EQS vs summer range added for the two others.
@@kingkoolkata Can you send me a message whenever you are driving anywhere near me, that isn't the highway? Just so I can stay indoors for my safety :D
EQS vs iX xDrive50 should be really interesting. 107 vs 105 kWh net capacity, both rated at 200kW peak, both 400V. So extremely similar specs on paper. Will be intereseting to see which company did a better job with charging.
My Mach-E had a software update. It now charges at 45kWh from 80 to 90% now. Also the whole charging rate has improved. They also changed total kW available from 88 to 91kWh of the total 99kWh
*kW
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but e-tron GT is for me the winner, most loading at 80%
E-tron has the smallest battery pack
The way Bjorn is narrating makes it feel like we're watching the Kentucky Derby for EV nerds 😂.
the funniest vid on youtube right now. great vid and I was very entertained by your commentary!
Lots of differences in charging efficiency:
EQS took 104,7 kWh to charge 90 %, i.e. it would take 116,3 kWh to charge 0-100 % (net capacity of 107 kWh) -> 92 % DC charging efficiency.
E-tron GT took 86,6 kWh to charge 87 %, i.e. it would take 99,6 kWh to charge 0-100 % (net capacity of 84 kWh) -> 84 % DC charging efficiency.
Mach-e: 95 %
Tesla: not possible to calculate as we don't know how much it took from the grid.
Can it really be this big difference? Where is it coming from? Is it due to 800 V system (shouldn't that be _more_ efficient with smaller amps?)
The battery cooling cost a Lot of Energie, and temperature coefficient when the weather is warmer or colder. then the current can pass through the cables more easily or more difficult!
i was literally going to ask the same question! would be great to hear Bjorn's thoughts!
If a standard PTC heater is running at 2kW for 1 hour that's already 2kWh that would needed to be deducted from the amount charged to get to the actual efficiency. Same with AC. So if either of the testes is done at very hot/cold temperatures, that already has an effect. Same story for other auxiliaries as well as battery heating/cooling.
I'm more interested in how many "miles/time" were added to the EVs. Sometimes high charging speeds are just there to mask the lower efficiency of a design - where companies just throw more battery cells at the problem and you get to pay for the costs.
10 kWh is just that, 10 kWh. adding range/time is impossible due to several variables like how heavy is your foot? how many passengers? trim level (adding weight), heat pump? rain? which rim size?
you can clearly see added kWh and time on every Ionity charger.
@@_TrueDesire_ 10kwh can be 5 miles in a Mercedes, and 10 miles in a Nio, it matters just as much as driving a big gasoline truck vs a compact or sedan.
There's some trickiness sure, but it's not that hard really, you can make many variables constant when testing the vehicles.
Pick a set of speeds, test the ranges for each at a given temperature and on the same road, that would give us a pretty good guide to work with.
Then we look at pack sizes to get the km/kwh measurement, that tells us how far you're going on a given charge rate. One can also measure it against time.
Example:
If you have one vehicle that sports a 80kwh pack, while the other has 110kwh, but the smaller battery gets you the same distance at about the same speed/weather/road conditions, then clearly one is doing more for each unit of energy.
I guess another method can be to travel a certain distance, measure how much was consumed, then check how much that charging stations charged each vehicle.
It's doable, just need to decide on realistic criteria.
Bjorn's 1000km Arctic challenge is designed to answer precisely your arguments.
The etron/ Taycan charge rates scare me with pouch cells. I’m curious what impact it’s going to have long term.
Hi, how fast you forwarded the video during charging comparison and could you paste the comparison graph between charging time x SOC level in real time? Thank you so much
Interesting is how well those batteries will stay over time. We will see in 5-6 years if they are still working compared to the slower charging. Especially the audi gt 😅
But some decent speed going on now. I would say withthat speed there is almost no negative side anymore. Thats a quick stop for 15min.
What I dont like about this kw race is, that KW doesnt mean anything. Km/h charged is the only value that really matters.
They'll be fine. Old Leaf batteries with 22kwh are still working ten years on. You'd have to put in five times more miles to get as much wear out of a EQS' battery.
@@Ohnonomomono lol there is a whole video about how bad these leaf batteries degraded. They have gotten trash😂
But the conclusion was that the battery thermal management is the most important part in battery health.
@@Alex-bl8uh These are very old batteries with very obsolete and lacking battery tech, but STILL they managed to degrade quite nicely, even better than Nissan's expectations.
Today's EV's are much more battery-life aware and these things are pretty much solved. The real issue is charging speed now, but even that is about to be solved with 5 minute 100% charging with special batteries made by StoreDot. It's right around the corner, the future looks bright for EV's, and energy storage in general. I'm excited!
@@vl3005 yes you are right. These issues are solved in most cars and thats great. But fast charging is dangerous for the batteries nevertheless. The more energy is moved the more heat is generated. I am not saying that fast charging kills the battery but you really have to watch out for these potential problem. Especially when you mention charging times of 5 minutes.
with saying all that. I am also very excited to see what comes next!
@@Ohnonomomono They have significant degradation.
EQS all day every day. What a car 😱
it is crazy what german car manufacturers can achieve if they want to go big.
the EQS is quite a stunning car. you need a big wallet for that but nevertheless, respect. what a car.
You will find the nice flat charging curve even in Mercedes PHEV with CCS like C300e, A, B250e, S580e etc. The Mercedes E Sprinter rises up from 80 to 90 kW charging power close to 100 % SOC.
Yes, but in reality, it`s much better to have peak charging then flat curve. Who`s going to stop for 45min at fast charger? Better to hammer it and stop for ~20min...
@@rogerstarkey5390 Actually, Tesla intentionally heats up the battery to get faster charging. Cooling down the cells is not an issue. Peak charging curve makes more sense for faster traveling...(if there`s enough charging stations so that`s the key point!)
Interesting enough, my LR++ X is tiny bit faster than that model S. For example the drop below 100kW is at 67%. The difference seems to be about the same across the entire charging curve. Maybe this doesn't have the updated 18650 cells yet?
I had to reduce the playback speed. it's if I'm listening to a horse race commentary.
But very nice to see the difference and is in my opinion proof that an 800V system is not the Holy Grail in order to get a high charge speed.
Not sure if you’ve seen it Björn, but there are reports that Tesla have finally increased the charging speed of LG E5D battery! Wondering if you could do a charge comparison between early LG battery and that with 2021.40.6 software & the Panasonic? Would be interesting to see if the LG is now similar to the Panasonic charge curve wise. Thanks
@@rogerstarkey5390 the report and video I’ve seen (ZEF Electric) shows a consistent uplift of 10-25kW throughout, not just an increased headline rate.
Nice. Next eqs vs plaid!
Maybe it’s too much work for little return, but could you plot the charging curves of the different EVs you’ve tested and add it to the Google Sheet? Maybe just in 10% intervals so it’s not too much work.
Hm, I was sceptical about 800 volts batteries, but it make sense, if gross capacity is higher 100 kWh, 500 Amp limitation on EQS seems sadly. I bet charging power can be around 300 kW.
Afte 20 min audi is at 80% soc , just they just drive too next . so audi wins in my book.
Great race and sick quality on your video
Hi Björn, I appreciate a lot your job, for next ones, if possible, the real comparison would be checking the Km/h charging speed, it makes no sense compare percentage for different kw.h and car charging/discharging efficiencies, thanks
both are epic battle i am shock the eqs may win vs the gt
Luxury hotel for the luxury car review 👍
etron is a boss they say i like the eqs
Would be nice to see a race. Start with 10%, charge to 80% and then go as far as possible. Who wins?
Raven should do 200kW on v3, did you not use v3?
That's in US. In Europe, Model S has type 2 (not CCS). Adapter limits it to about 135 kW.
@@bjornnyland oh that's awful. So at an actual supercharger you can't even have optimal charge rate. I'm guessing the plaid/refresh will have standard ccs and not be limited like this. Excited to see your test of that.
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Mega content!! quality and quantity
eTron GT for the win!! Guessing a Taycan would be similar? Great video Bjorn! Feels like you're following a horse race!!! DAmmit snuck back in at the end!! WHat on earth was the Audi charging behaviour doing at the end? BMS needs looking at....
would be great if you could say how much real range the cars have charged in that time to 90%.
You can evaluate the level of kWh
After 60 minutes, EQS just got bored and said - OK, 100% now :-D
@@abraxastulammo9940 actually, no. Watched again and saw the EQS staing longer at 98% than expected. So I fif the math. The charger shows 2.21 kWh (102.456..104.662) being charged after reaching 98%, that's min 1.99 kWh after 10% charging loss (actual loss was below 8% 10%->100% from my calculation), so 1.84% of 107.8 kWh EQS' battery size. It should have shown 99% at least at the end, and mathematically easily could have rounded to 100% already. So it looks like a bug in BMS sticking at showing 98% for too long rather than cheating.
I think the EQS wins for kWh added per minute
Heyyyy welcome back to Thailand. 😆🙏
Those ultra fast charging sessions aren't the most efficient activity. If it was, no extra cooling would be required
EQS only has a 50,000-mile warranty. I think it's fair to say they don't feel good about the longevity of the battery and the speedy charging probably forewarns that.
Looking forward to seeing your S Plaid charging race.
Ten years on the battery dude....
@@jdmoney1000 10 years or 50,000 miles whichever comes first? Or just 10 years unlimited miles?
@@MartinGalway It’s my understanding that you get four years or 50,000 miles unlimited…. On the big battery you get 10 years…
I guess the car will also limit to 500 A due to the CCS2 standard.
Wonder if the EQS would take more than 500A if the charger could deliver... Would need V3 Supercharger to test that.
If you compare charged kwhs, eqs charges faster than e-tron gt after 25 minutes. at 25 minutes they had around the same value charged into the battery, which is only 85% on the audi.. weird. You don't typically charge that high, but if you do... ;-)
What do you expect from the BMW i4 M50?
Similar as EQS.
@@bjornnyland thanks 🙏
Btw I like your videos. Good job
These are interesting when new...but it will be much more entertaining when the batteries have 100K miles and 5+ years on them. Will they maintain these speeds? doubtful.
In KWh the EQS was ahead from 50-60%?? 🤔
And model S got to 90% not that long after which is not bad, as older model and pretty big battery too.
Latest Model S in US charges way faster than this (250 kW until about 30 %).
@@bjornnyland will see when it comes to Europe and you can do a good test… 👍👍
Greetings from Stuttgart 😎 but if you had compared with the Taycan, it would had been a Stuttgart Battle.... Event though: places number 1 and 2 for Stuttgart is not bad... the poor US cars are obviously not in hurry..
The higher the voltage the lower the current for the same exact power delivery. Translation: lower current doesn’t need gargantuan wires internally or externally. Give me a 800 VDC system any day. It’s not that they can charge faster it’s just that they can afford to have a whole lot less weight in the form of cables internally to move about the electrons. Doesn’t help it stay cooler anymore because burning electrons is burning electrons.💯
@@abraxastulammo9940 have you ever seen the bus bar on the Tesla Model S Plaid that travels from one end of the battery to the other end of the car? Besides it’s not all about weight savings it’s really about the most efficient way of moving power. The reason the wires that power our homes at the street are not 3 foot in diameter is because the voltage is so high. 💡
EQS fills up 100 kWh at the same time a Model S fills up 78 kWh, GT 84 kWh.
*Pulls from the charger.
Tesla have to do something to compete 😬 in behalf of charging speed 😉
Not really. Model S Plaid charging at 250 kW videos out on UA-cam. I just haven't had the chance to test yet.
@@bjornnyland True. But it is not available in europe yet. We will see.
pls make a degradation test as well for the German made EV's. I guess there are already some with 50+ tkm. thx
What's the point comparing percentage instead of added energy? EQS added 20kWh more than Etron in the same time... Etron barely matched 8y old TMS technology...
What's the point of comparing kWh? It's the km added that matters...
@@bjornnyland Exactly, and there EQS eats étron even more. So comparing percentage is the most pointless way.
Green tea for the win!
The e-tron speed stutter is embarrassing.... 😣
im really looking forward to the Chinese bringing 400-480 kW to the mix 👊
You could be commenting horse races 😁
I own a mach e and the charge curve is embarrassing
Nice fast changing but that no good for the battery, also charging to 100% is also no good so when to battery goes bad in five years if it last that long the bill will be huge to change the battery. Battery technology get better by the day so you suck with the old technology. That’s were Nio takes the cake
This is nonsense the Tesla starts way faster when preconditioned which is default on trips and charges up to 250kw
Not available yet in Europe.
Rigged race!!! Go e-tron!!!
eqs a come back win
epic
Tesla fanboys always have an excuse. What's it going to be this time?
Teslas are more efficient 😁 150 Wh consumption to 300 Wh Audi
That the Tesla is charging slower yes... But it's actually charging more miles per minute because the power train is more efficient. Also battery longevity with a kinder charge curve to the battery.
ua-cam.com/video/bEadl8hidRI/v-deo.html
Edit:
It seems even the CCS Adapter can only charge at 150kW max and therefore model s is as hampered as shown in the Video.
Therefore ignore the next part about Tesla but Enjoy the Rest of the comment nontheless.
My excuse is going to be that the Tesla charging curve was done with a years old setup and at a charger limited to ~135kW instead of a raven or newer model S charging at V3 supercharger.
BUT that excuse (for me at least) is more of a joke since i have the capacity to be in awe of what the EQS and the etron GT are capeable of. Hats off to the engineers designing it, they outdid themselves.
Hopefully we will se more of that ^^
Especially what the EQS can deliver at higher speeds due to its superior drag coefficient. Its Absolutely insane (good) what you can do with it in germany on the parts of the Autobahn where we have no speed limit.
ua-cam.com/video/k4Cvv0YzWhE/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TomMoloughney