Camry vs Accord | The Forever Sedans Face Off

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  • Опубліковано 22 чер 2024
  • We compare the new 2025 Toyota Camry vs the 2024 Honda Accord. These hybrid sedans bring some of the best features and technology for an affordable price. We discuss engineering, safety, mechanical, and driving character. In a world of SUVs would you choose these over, Rav4, Mazda CX5, Honda, CRV, and Ford Bronco Sport?
    We used the Bridgestone Potenza Sport AS as our Spec Tire:
    www.bridgestonetire.com/tire/...
    #cars #business #technology
    Index:
    00:00 Intro
    00:49 Interior and Exterior Camry
    8:31 Camry Audio Testing
    8:53 Interior and Exterior Accord
    13:54 Accord Audio Testing
    15:44 Mechanicals Camry
    16:54 Camry Engine and Hybrid Explained
    22:05 Accord Mechanicals
    22:42 Accord Body Updates and NVH
    24:15 Spec Bridgeston Potenza Sport AS
    25:06 Accord Engine and Hybrid System
    27:53 Driving Impressions Camry
    34:46 Driving Impressions Accord
    43:45 Final Thoughts
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  • @dragospahontu
    @dragospahontu 8 днів тому +883

    All the dads gathered around to watch this showoff.

    • @AW-gj4ji
      @AW-gj4ji 8 днів тому +30

      If the ES was included, then the Grandpas would be here too!

    • @tototronic2
      @tototronic2 8 днів тому +21

      It's called a "Showdown" not a "Showoff"!

    • @Portland2006
      @Portland2006 8 днів тому

      Personally, I'm too aroused by the Civic Hybrid to pay much attention.

    • @dragoniv
      @dragoniv 8 днів тому +9

      Bought a four door Pontiac G8 as a dad. Grandpa here went for the Accord Hybrid.

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 8 днів тому +1

      @@dragoniv safe choice, are they gonna burry him in the Accord?

  • @QLPJosh
    @QLPJosh 8 днів тому +411

    Thank you for touching base on the privacy and data collection within the infotainment. People don't take it as seriously as it should.

    • @JohnyMcNeal
      @JohnyMcNeal 8 днів тому +15

      Now they're installing cameras (e class for example) 😂

    • @nkenchington6575
      @nkenchington6575 8 днів тому +41

      touching base?! fucking hell, man.

    • @aygwm
      @aygwm 8 днів тому +7

      Touch! Base!

    • @nateavery2875
      @nateavery2875 8 днів тому

      Not like you have a real choice. Opt out and get reduced or no features. These companies can't help themselves. They force you into data submission.

    • @ADUSN
      @ADUSN 8 днів тому +26

      "touch base" I agree with you but the corporate talk is revolting

  • @Benisfunny
    @Benisfunny 8 днів тому +619

    "The Camry has a physical door pull. No fi- fiddle fuckin' around with that." Perfectly said.

    • @nateavery2875
      @nateavery2875 8 днів тому +1

      👍

    • @blueflameSM
      @blueflameSM 8 днів тому +17

      The one thing about some new Lexus models, the door handles. Fixing something that wasn't broken, all these buttons and whatnot to unlock/open the door is just so niche.

    • @NelsonGasparDrives
      @NelsonGasparDrives 8 днів тому +10

      nothing worse in the auto biz than that dang fiddle-fuckin'

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 8 днів тому +5

      @@blueflameSM Lexus aren't what they used to be, that's for sure - they used to have a lot of quite distinct models - now they are almost all just reworked Toyotas, like Genesys or Acura.

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 7 днів тому +1

      Love Toyota because they keep it basic.

  • @Masterguy635
    @Masterguy635 8 днів тому +590

    This is my C8 Corvette vs MKV Supra moment.

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 8 днів тому +9

      You mean the MKI Zupra? It may be fast, but it's 99% a bottom of the line BMW badge swapped by the Toyota bean counters and advertising department. 🤣
      It's even made in Austria on the same assembly line as the BMW Z4.

    • @guycha0s380
      @guycha0s380 8 днів тому +84

      ​@@anydaynow01 🤡 Bros living in 2000s

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 8 днів тому +45

      @@anydaynow01And that’s why it’s a great car. The B58 is better than anything in the old Supras.

    • @theoyansen8267
      @theoyansen8267 8 днів тому +19

      ​@anydaynow01 you're getting a BMW for a discount. Why would you be mad?

    • @eppyz
      @eppyz 8 днів тому +3

      You have too much time on your hands😂

  • @josecazarez9541
    @josecazarez9541 8 днів тому +164

    I know im getting old when I’m more excited for this show off than a sports car show off lmao

    • @realbeetlejuice
      @realbeetlejuice 7 днів тому +3

      +1. But it's sad af there are no more performance variants anymore :(

    • @blastercorps
      @blastercorps 6 днів тому +6

      Because this is real. Let's be honest, few if any of us are getting a supercar. A ton of us are getting one of these.

    • @billyracks
      @billyracks 6 днів тому

      it's just the result of having a lack of taste

    • @Angel7black
      @Angel7black 6 днів тому +1

      @@blastercorpsyou dont need a super car. I have a 2013 V6 mustang with twin turbos pushing around 500 hp, sold my project new edge GT, have a mk iii supra. Never spent more than 40K for a car. Tbf my wife has sedan and honda itself, but its a newer 2024 civic SI she replaced her old GTI with. Point is you really don’t need to give up on fun cara just cause youre old, we’re both in our 30’s and while yeah thats not that old we sure as shit arent that young either. Her dad is in his 60’s and he drives an F250 and and one of the cleanest Datsuns ive ever seen in person. What you drive says a lot about you, but not necessarily that youre old. When i see somebody driving a new basic ass camry or accord i dont think “that person is old” i think “that person probably doesnt really care much for cars and but wants something nice, practical and reliable”. And that’s fine, but thats a personal taste interests thing than it is age thing. Friends been driving camrys since we were in high school

    • @a.bishop615
      @a.bishop615 5 днів тому +2

      @@billyracks I’d bet my entire savings that your favorite car brand is German

  • @jametime41
    @jametime41 8 днів тому +218

    bursted out laughing at work when jack almost understeered off the road on his first turn good stuff

    • @wiryantirta
      @wiryantirta 7 днів тому +9

      and the fact that the chocolate bit on his chocoloate long johns hasn't touched his shirt or any part of the car interior

  • @noname-gp6hk
    @noname-gp6hk 8 днів тому +63

    It's sad that the biggest selling point for me is actual physical knobs and switches.

    • @sk-un5jq
      @sk-un5jq 5 днів тому +3

      That and quietness/refinement are the clinchers for me. I'd get the Accord and if I lived in a cold weather state I'd get the CRV hybrid, which is way more refined than the rattly ass RAV4.

  • @harry2492
    @harry2492 8 днів тому +161

    Love that you went the extra mile and put them on the same tires. I think this is one of the first reviews I've seen that and really think it adds to a good comparison. Respect.

    • @realbeetlejuice
      @realbeetlejuice 7 днів тому +2

      forget the tires... they're going in depth on literally e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-gggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

    • @lorenschwiderski
      @lorenschwiderski 7 днів тому

      New tires should be broken in before hard cornering. Just a thought.

    • @kingair433
      @kingair433 6 днів тому +1

      It's just a creative way to include their sponsor. In reality, since those are not the tires that come with either car, it greatly changes the review of the actual car that people are buying.

    • @realbeetlejuice
      @realbeetlejuice 6 днів тому

      @@kingair433 good point tbh.

    • @harry2492
      @harry2492 6 днів тому +5

      @@kingair433I mean, you have a point. But tires change so much about the vehicle with regards to noise, ride, smoothness, etc that I’d rather the same car be compared on the same tire than having them on different ones and pretending that they have nothing to do with any driving characteristics.
      It’s not like most of us change the tires within 20-40 thousand miles anyway.

  • @yanboa
    @yanboa 8 днів тому +119

    Thanks for being real pros and doing regular cars, guys!!

  • @realbeetlejuice
    @realbeetlejuice 7 днів тому +39

    this is just insane. this is better quality/production than anything we would have got even on TV produced and made by a big company. savagegeese is still incredibly underrated, this channel should have millions of subs by now. 10/10

  • @Hallowsaw
    @Hallowsaw 8 днів тому +218

    "You can get the JBL on the lower trims" yeah its a 4k package that makes it cost more than the base upper trim

    • @jxmar_
      @jxmar_ 8 днів тому +23

      And you actually can’t get the JBL sound system on the base models. You can only get the 12.3 inch screen on the SE, that doesn’t come w the JBL.

    • @anlam1044
      @anlam1044 8 днів тому +35

      just get base model and change out the speakers, it'll sound 10x better than stock JBL

    • @kylelangley8818
      @kylelangley8818 8 днів тому +3

      Ehh, $4K financed over 72months. I’d take better audio over the life of a boring car any day.

    • @morebrainmoregains3234
      @morebrainmoregains3234 8 днів тому +28

      @@kylelangley8818 poor financial decision making

    • @Mark-eu6mc
      @Mark-eu6mc 8 днів тому +18

      @@kylelangley8818financed over 72 months at 6.99% APR lmao. You military?

  • @user-of5wd8zr3e
    @user-of5wd8zr3e 8 днів тому +243

    AWD for the Camry tips the scales for me. And will likely be the difference maker for a lot of folks in northern climates.

    • @Hallowsaw
      @Hallowsaw 8 днів тому +29

      Why spend 40k on an awd xle when you can get a awd crown signia for 45k

    • @DavidSimpsonJr973
      @DavidSimpsonJr973 8 днів тому +9

      Simply put, car purchases are rarely all about rationality. Especially when most ppl lease. ​@@Hallowsaw

    • @dustinjohnston2241
      @dustinjohnston2241 8 днів тому +35

      @@Hallowsaw in canada an AWD XLE camry starts at $48,500 and a crown base model starts at $58,000, At that point just upgrade to a Lexus. The Crown seems pointless

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 8 днів тому +9

      @@dustinjohnston2241 Agreed, the Crown makes about as much sense as the Maxima did for Nissan, and any Buick does for GM.

    • @nateTrh
      @nateTrh 8 днів тому +5

      ​@Hallowsaw Or just get an LE or SE awd for much less. If you want luxury, then it makes sense to grab a Venza or Crown Signia but if you just need usable and awd, you can't really beat the value of the lower Toyota trims. The heated seat and steering wheel package is also pretty cheap.

  • @bigbunnyboi
    @bigbunnyboi 8 днів тому +18

    Two dads enjyong their midlife crisis on two of the most reliable dad sedans.
    Great to watch this!

  • @marshmellow3110
    @marshmellow3110 8 днів тому +90

    Y’all are the best. Great video. Let’s see a comparison video with ten year old models with over 200k miles. That’s what Merica truly needs.

    • @grubbp
      @grubbp 8 днів тому +2

      Amen!

    • @SilverScarletSpider
      @SilverScarletSpider 6 днів тому +8

      2012 Toyota Camry V6 vs 2012 Honda Accord V6 videos in 2024 would make this channel goated

  • @augustortiz
    @augustortiz 8 днів тому +115

    True performance machines in their new sleek bodywork. A duel for the ages.

    • @mattspeer01
      @mattspeer01 8 днів тому +9

      Performance 😂

    • @joshgts9675
      @joshgts9675 8 днів тому +16

      I know when I hear Atkinson Cycle it means the vehicle is a serious performance machine.

    • @sachinnair91
      @sachinnair91 8 днів тому +4

      when I think of performance, I think of a 2024 Mustang Ecoboost, not these two family sedans

    • @augustortiz
      @augustortiz 8 днів тому +9

      @@sachinnair91 umm, thats a supercar.. These are high performance family sedans.

    • @truckercowboyed2638
      @truckercowboyed2638 8 днів тому +1

      ​@@augustortiza mustang is a super car????? 😂

  • @mulamulelilumadi4717
    @mulamulelilumadi4717 8 днів тому +22

    The side profile of the Accord looks like a large sportback Audi sedan

  • @paulhenry913
    @paulhenry913 8 днів тому +79

    The Accord has always had a edginess to it and IMO it doesn't disappoint in the hybrid version. I really like Honda's new hybrid setup. As Jack pointed out cant go wrong with either choice but I would lean towards the Accord

    • @ibrahimbashir6634
      @ibrahimbashir6634 8 днів тому +6

      Junk

    • @cod4r
      @cod4r 8 днів тому +1

      I would go with the most generations.

    • @glassrockpurple154
      @glassrockpurple154 7 днів тому +2

      “edginess” meaning fake shift sounds and being much slower than a Camry especially when you get to higher speeds.

    • @paulhenry913
      @paulhenry913 7 днів тому +1

      @@glassrockpurple154 it also means no debris in the engine

    • @glassrockpurple154
      @glassrockpurple154 7 днів тому

      @@paulhenry913 LOL Toyota constantly ranks more reliable than Honda. That Accords “transmission” has clutches that will go bad long before the Toyota’s planetary gearset cvt.

  • @josefgordon7712
    @josefgordon7712 8 днів тому +123

    Camry LE with AWD still gets like 50 mpg and has more tire for a nicer ride. Such a ridiculously great value. Really get my “Dad” blood racing 🥵

    • @njad3
      @njad3 8 днів тому +6

      Doesn’t matter, get an accord instead

    • @Courtesyflush52
      @Courtesyflush52 8 днів тому +13

      @@njad3the Camry just has a better set of features with the better hybrid system and the AWD

    • @shaalis
      @shaalis 8 днів тому +3

      no way does it get 50mpg. More like 44-45. at best.

    • @glassrockpurple154
      @glassrockpurple154 7 днів тому +8

      @@shaalis I have a 2021 LE Camry hybrid FWD and it is currently getting 52-53 mpg with me beating on it and driving 85mph

    • @rallysauruswrex
      @rallysauruswrex 7 днів тому +2

      @@shaalis it does actually. I just took one out for a 2 hr drive and it was easily getting 49-51 mpg driving normally

  • @demariousbonner7037
    @demariousbonner7037 8 днів тому +28

    Please talk about date collection more often in your reviews. It’s much appreciated.

  • @klyded8523
    @klyded8523 7 днів тому +31

    I came here for serious business, but I shot milk out my nose when he pulled out the second chocolate long John 🤣🤣

  • @DainLaguna
    @DainLaguna 8 днів тому +58

    So I’m about 15 min in and wanted to weigh in on my personal experience with the accord as I’ve driven it fairly extensively on loan from my local Honda dealership while my regular ride got worked on.
    Yall are spot on with the pros and cons. That interior, while way more cohesive looking and better laid out than the Camry imo, is capital D drab. It reminds me of Volkswagen when they were at their peak; it’s very Germanic, very understated, to a fault. And I was driving an EX trim, which has even less material variability than the higher end hybrid models.
    No rear vents is such a deal breaker for me. These are all things I think Honda will (and should) address in the refresh next year or so.
    As far as the pros go: also spot on. The infotainment is solid even on the poverty spec and this is even better. And since they both drive relatively the same, the better seating position and ergonomic layout of the accord swings a win for me over the Camry. The seating position is so good and everything just falls to hand. The cupholder placement in particular is just fucking perfect. Sounds ridiculous but in a car like this it matters.
    Both my kiddos loved the backseat space too and that trunk is truly gigantic.
    While you can’t go wrong with either, I think even with my gripes, it’s the driver interface, simplicity of controls and better seating position of the accord that wins me over for the Honda. I do dig the Camry, but those little intangibles are a big deal.
    Now for the love of god get some color and rear vents in that interior, Honda.

    • @oneblach
      @oneblach 8 днів тому +13

      Higher trims have the vents

    • @ikaros4203
      @ikaros4203 8 днів тому +9

      U needed a Touring trim

    • @JADE939
      @JADE939 8 днів тому +1

      In Asia, Honda has been known for being obsessed with copying German brands, especially VW and Audi. Their consoles in the recent models of the Civic, Accord, and CR-V are nearly identical to those in the Audi A4. The CR-V exterior looks almost the same as VW Taos. Now Honda also wants to move forward as an EV only, like Audi. In Asia, Honda has never been a leader in auto manufacturing. They like to follow others.

    • @cameron6249
      @cameron6249 8 днів тому +5

      11gen hondas have less features than the 10gen

    • @ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344
      @ascanius_son_of_aeneas5344 7 днів тому +5

      I got a accord exl a few weeks ago. Mine has the grey and black interior. Its only available on 3 colors. Red, white, and the metallic grey. The grey and black interior is so much nicer.

  • @johngonzalez851
    @johngonzalez851 8 днів тому +24

    Great review as always guys. Btw, in terms of advertised vs actual mileage, my 23 Accord Hybrid blows past 50mpg every tank year round surpassing the advertised mileage. Living in the NY/NJ area i get a pretty good mix of driving conditions.

    • @matthewshultz8762
      @matthewshultz8762 8 днів тому +1

      I'm glad the newer gen is getting better mileage. My 2019 hybrid would go up to about 42/45 mpg at most. But, on the lower end it would never get below 36, even when towing a motorcycle trailer going 75 mph.

    • @harrytej
      @harrytej 7 днів тому +3

      Great, what people don’t realize is even though according to gets slightly lesser MPG than Camry the amount of Dollars they earn over a period is like less than 500$ , compare that to the ridiculous amount of overpay these Toyota dealers asking for

  • @hogibunz834
    @hogibunz834 8 днів тому +33

    Cars > SUV’s and Crossovers

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 7 днів тому +29

    Most of us don't need AWD, and one thing that drives me nuts about my Toyota is the same complaint you guys had; you feel like you're sitting on top of the car when you're driving it.

    • @facetiousmonkey5322
      @facetiousmonkey5322 5 днів тому +2

      Most people say that but Toyota is secretly gunning for the SUV driver who doesn’t want to be seen in an SUV

    • @gsxellence
      @gsxellence 5 днів тому +1

      ​@@facetiousmonkey5322clearly evident in that mess called the crown

    • @ryanmcfarland1900
      @ryanmcfarland1900 5 днів тому +3

      The last couple rental Toyotas I had felt like that. I feel like it's been like that for years. I don't understand why people want that.

    • @drunksquirrel2051
      @drunksquirrel2051 4 дні тому

      Sounds like a personal problem. See a therapist

  • @hereigoagain5050
    @hereigoagain5050 8 днів тому +88

    I'm the Camry of husbands. My wife says I am quiet but grating.

  • @snowpants2212
    @snowpants2212 8 днів тому +20

    If the Accord came with a saddle tan/brown interior option, I'd have one already

    • @Sashazur
      @Sashazur 8 днів тому +4

      I hate that pretty much all new cars now only offer black or black with gray “highlights” for interiors. I like lighter warmer colors!

    • @fortheloveofnoise9298
      @fortheloveofnoise9298 7 днів тому +2

      Go to Mazda

    • @carlosl5858
      @carlosl5858 7 днів тому +3

      Light gray interior leather is available in the EX-L and Touring models

    • @snowpants2212
      @snowpants2212 6 днів тому +1

      @@carlosl5858 light grey ain’t brown. And it’s only available with boring paint colors anyway. Mazda too expensive for what it is, and they don’t make the 6 anymore, which is what would compete with this

  • @rhynecars
    @rhynecars 8 днів тому +30

    These are the kinds of comparisons I like to see! Using matching tires is brilliant for comparison of road manners. Suck on that Consumer reports!

    • @anydaynow01
      @anydaynow01 8 днів тому +6

      And they used a tire people would actually use for daily driving!

  • @johny3133
    @johny3133 8 днів тому +12

    The most quality video product about cars on UA-cam. Keep it up folks!

  • @idanceforpennies281
    @idanceforpennies281 8 днів тому +83

    Camry. More power, better fuel economy, better interior, spare tyre and 4WD.

    • @angelgjr1999
      @angelgjr1999 7 днів тому +12

      Yeah the accord is not as good. If you want Honda then just get the civic

    • @idanceforpennies281
      @idanceforpennies281 7 днів тому +13

      @@angelgjr1999 In its class the Civic is more competitive, it's somewhat bigger for example than it's rivals and rides/handles very well.

    • @paulh6517
      @paulh6517 6 днів тому +3

      The interior of the Honda gets a "D" for dour, dark and drab. For me its the interior of the Camry and the nicer audio system that wins me over. Also using a Linux info system is less likely to share driving information than a google based system. I am sure google would not mind selling your driver info to your insurance company as well.

    • @CalvinHikes
      @CalvinHikes 3 дні тому +1

      But it's not a honda.

    • @LlyleHunter
      @LlyleHunter 2 дні тому +1

      If you keep your cars there’s no comparison. The Camry is made to last and run much longer without giving the owners any trouble whatsoever while the Accords aren’t what they were in the 1990s and before. They’ve become delicate little flowers and it shows up around four years old and then you have to start pumping money into them like European cars. I had a very rude awakening from Honda and switched. I don’t have the time to bring cars in. I just don’t deal with it.

  • @avitiasensei
    @avitiasensei 7 днів тому +3

    Amazing job with your videos. There´s a lot of information (really good info), nice visuals, good ol´ sarcasm, some bromance, and great audio and video quality.

  • @johnbinder6988
    @johnbinder6988 8 днів тому +1

    Another great video. I really appreciate the comparo videos and the time, effort, and logistics to be able to do it.

  • @aaron311able
    @aaron311able 8 днів тому +2

    I appreciate the knowledge and the sense of humor you guys inject into all of your videos. Please don't stop what you are doing. This channel deserves so much praise in my humble opinion!

  • @kopendozz
    @kopendozz 8 днів тому +10

    Thank you for the review, I absolutely agree with everything being said here. Test drove a Camry and just couldn't bear the whining noise, then test drove an Accord and was blown away by how much more refined it is and eventually bought the Accord.

  • @user-unionwrestling
    @user-unionwrestling 8 днів тому +47

    You guys are absolutely the best at giving in depth reviews from top to bottom of vehicles! The Honda Accord looks like something my grandma would drive and no longer looks like something everybody would be happy to drive! The Camry is a car that visually appeals to a greater audience!

    • @idanceforpennies281
      @idanceforpennies281 7 днів тому +4

      Forget about looks. The Camry wins on a technical basis.

    • @shaloon64
      @shaloon64 7 днів тому +1

      I actually think the accord looks better than this Camry

    • @TermlessHGW
      @TermlessHGW 7 днів тому +5

      I think Honda had a pretty much perfect "budget" sedan with the previous gen. 2l turbo. Regular 10 speed or 6 manual. This gen appeals to seniors.

    • @user-unionwrestling
      @user-unionwrestling 7 днів тому

      @@TermlessHGW I agree 💯!

  • @MadAmishman
    @MadAmishman 8 днів тому +1

    Love the reviews you guys do! So much good information jampacked into this! Plus, love how you guys give your honest feedback, no matter how critical it may be! Keep it up!

  • @hughjass5976
    @hughjass5976 8 днів тому +40

    I'm sure that the felt wheel and under body panels do something for noise, but as someone that lives where there is a bunch of snow and slush for about half the year, I hate them. It absorbs water, gets heavy and sags, than freezes. It then gets torn up on ice chucks because it is hanging too low. I had to get new panels and then soak them in epoxy to harden them and prevent them from absorbing water. I'd take slightly more noise over that hassle any time.

    • @justin________7477
      @justin________7477 7 днів тому +1

      I like the felt in the wheel wells, in my experience it holds up well in Midwest winters. Never had it on the underbody though

  • @ywkhgqo
    @ywkhgqo 8 днів тому +61

    Toyota doesn't do custom orders, so their "options" set up means you never know what you're gonna get when looking at one from a dealer. Good luck finding one that has exactly what you want.
    Accord doesn't have as many options outside of dealer add ons, but it means there's less BS finding the one you want. EX-L met most of what I wanted, and made it easier to find one I wanted.
    Good luck getting ANY Toyota hybrid at MSRP or less at this point too

    • @stephenj4937
      @stephenj4937 8 днів тому +10

      You can definitely get Corolla and Crown hybrids at (and below) MSRP. Give this 6 months and the Camry will also be below MSRP. Sedans just aren't in that much demand.

    • @user-vx7vi3vq1c
      @user-vx7vi3vq1c 8 днів тому +8

      Fitzgerald Toyota in Maryland sells at MSRP. Warrenton Toyota in Virginia sells at MSRP. It’s a long list with a 2 minute Google search.

    • @thomasd5248
      @thomasd5248 8 днів тому +12

      Literally just bought a 2025 camry for under msrp.
      Honda adding market adjustments to accords and civics lol.
      Honda can keep their fugly ass car.

    • @ywkhgqo
      @ywkhgqo 8 днів тому +3

      @@thomasd5248 I paid $1500 less than MSRP on my Accord. It's all about the area. But my points about customization and what not remain.

    • @thomasd5248
      @thomasd5248 8 днів тому +4

      @@ywkhgqo not that hard to get what you want with a little looking. My camry has the exact spec and feature set I want. Vast majority of buyers aren't doing custom orders so it isn't all that surprising Toyota doesn't do it

  • @allanchen8496
    @allanchen8496 8 днів тому +11

    Toyota/Lexus is innovating here and offering feature set value (for the price) like Hyundai/Kia has been doing for years. About dang time!

    • @njad3
      @njad3 8 днів тому +7

      If they’re anything like Hyundai and Kia reliability, then you should get an Accord

  • @lawdog516
    @lawdog516 8 днів тому +6

    I hold your channel to a high standard and you never disappoint!!! Great comparison !!

  • @ab-nz2mm
    @ab-nz2mm 7 днів тому +2

    felt like an OG video, great work

  • @will4688
    @will4688 8 днів тому +4

    The intro music sets me in the mood for Camry and Accord. Thank you Savage.

  • @liberaceboiithe3rd5
    @liberaceboiithe3rd5 8 днів тому +4

    I’ve had my 25 Camry for 1200 miles now, SE with multimedia upgrade, sunroof, convenience package. It’s been good to me so far. Some door trim rattling which I need to get fixed but aside from that it’s been very good to me

  • @samharmon5196
    @samharmon5196 8 днів тому +6

    I've been watching you guys for a while. Your content is top shelf. I'm happy with my '25 LE Camry that I picked up last week, you helped win me over to the refreshed model. Also Vulfpeck rocks.

    • @Cap683
      @Cap683 7 днів тому

      Agreed. I bought the Camry LE with option package. As an entry level trim, I think that it is the car to get. It has more than enough "features". I did not AB it with the Honda but to get the same ride in a hybrid vehicle , I would have to go with Honda Touring trim. That is much more than I would be willing to spend on a new car.

  • @iceman.83
    @iceman.83 8 днів тому

    I was expecting this video for some time. Excellent job, great comparison touching the key differences, especially those in NVH. 👏
    Kudos for going to the lengths using same tires for noise comparison, and stating beyond what the decibel numbers suggest.
    Fantastic job in driving impressions section explaining the difference in regen experience.
    Watched many videos, none of them was able to explain this level of detail. 👏

  • @codysmith3271
    @codysmith3271 8 днів тому +3

    I really appreciate the details and nuances regarding the noise level measurements

  • @TommyPickIes
    @TommyPickIes 8 днів тому +60

    Love when my car watches me like big brother.

  • @jaffarbaqi
    @jaffarbaqi 5 днів тому

    You guys rock.
    I thank God you exist in the internet. No other channel speaks to me like you do.
    Keep on truckin.

  • @cletusowns
    @cletusowns 8 днів тому

    Another awesome video from yall!

  • @mohammedalgheryafi7784
    @mohammedalgheryafi7784 8 днів тому +4

    One of the best reviews I have seen in a while.

  • @parkpy
    @parkpy 8 днів тому +36

    No rear Ventilation!?!? I can understand in the Civic, but not something bigger and more expensive. Then the lack of a spare tire!? Come on Honda…

    • @VeyroneR
      @VeyroneR 8 днів тому +9

      U know when u turn on AC it doesnt matter if you have rear vents or not its gonna be cold in the whole Cabin ? Seems ppl dont understand that. So much crying about rear vents.

    • @harshamanjunath3190
      @harshamanjunath3190 8 днів тому +11

      Accord touring trim has rear AC vents

    • @Marbind
      @Marbind 8 днів тому

      You never had passengers cold sensitive in the front right?

    • @GB-hn9ir
      @GB-hn9ir 8 днів тому

      @@harshamanjunath3190and EX-L

    • @Rew123
      @Rew123 8 днів тому +7

      ​@@VeyroneRDon't act like you don't like some airflow on you. Are you saying you never turn on fans in your home, and instead wait for the AC to cool down the whole house?

  • @henrysboy2
    @henrysboy2 7 днів тому +1

    Loved this video. Thk you.

  • @halupa2222
    @halupa2222 4 дні тому

    I’ve watched ten different videos reviewing/comparing three two vehicles and this is by far the best. Well done, gents.

  • @turboash78
    @turboash78 8 днів тому +29

    Wagon versions please (not stupid crossovers).

    • @bt7482
      @bt7482 8 днів тому +2

      I would love to see a Subaru Outback competitor. A Camry/rav4 based wagon with hybrid awd. Make it sleek and not a faux tough wagon, leave that for the rav4.

    • @calebwany8422
      @calebwany8422 8 днів тому +1

      Crown Signia intensiwagons

    • @rickygforce4217
      @rickygforce4217 8 днів тому +4

      Crown Signia is basically just a slightly lifted wagon

  • @joseeduardo4327
    @joseeduardo4327 8 днів тому +10

    Thanks for the info about privacy and data collection. Recently saw Breaking Points vid about ins companies and car manufacturers sharing and selling data

  • @Unsalted375
    @Unsalted375 8 днів тому +40

    I think the Camry exterior looks better this gen, Accord looks like a love child of a ford taurus and vw jetta. Interior of accord is better though imo.

    • @someguyv1188
      @someguyv1188 6 днів тому

      We have S650 Mustang at home

    • @iamatlantis1
      @iamatlantis1 6 днів тому

      The true good looking Honda these days is that new Civic non-hatch. Best looking car they've made in a while.

  • @XTrojanClauseX
    @XTrojanClauseX 8 днів тому +1

    I love the fact that you guys, always get up to par, when it comes to the technology gimmicks and quirks, which automotive industries are throwing at us lately. This is notable in the tech and infotainment section. Keep good work and thanks for maintaining us as users, deeply informed about all this. Awesome job guys.

  • @ozenmacher
    @ozenmacher 8 днів тому +6

    I have the CRV Hybrid. It also has awd. I bought this solely for the exact reasons you noted in this review, notably a far more refined drivetrain and interior isolation. It isn’t as good as my prior CX5 but it was way better than the rattley and unrefined RAV4. This still gets 39 mpg which is good enough for me. I’ll take refined and smooth any day over pure efficiency.

    • @sk-un5jq
      @sk-un5jq 7 днів тому

      CRV hybrid over the rattly RAV4 easily. RAV4 feels like a tinbox from 20 yrs ago.

    • @riseabove3082
      @riseabove3082 5 днів тому

      @@sk-un5jq We had a 2021 RAV4 and it was solid. Thick heavy doors so I don't know what you mean by rattly or tinbox. It drove like fridge and the engine sounded like a coffee grinder but otherwise it felt like a tank.

  • @question_asker_93
    @question_asker_93 8 днів тому +3

    Really appreciate this comparison for normal people looking for information to make an informed purchasing decision.

  • @BadPhD777
    @BadPhD777 3 дні тому +1

    Thank you Honda & Toyota for continuing to make sedans. Some of us don't want an SUV or pickup truck.

  • @_Makanko_
    @_Makanko_ 5 днів тому

    Very high quality informative video Mark!.
    I'd love a similar one on your personal top picks for hatchbacks.

  • @DieselDan09
    @DieselDan09 8 днів тому +12

    It's almost like this video in intuitive to answer everything a person looking to buy this car would want to know. Spectacular job. I have been a fan of yours since the beginning, so great seeing how far your videos have evolved. I do miss the shoppe segment tho!!! Boy did that make me lmfao

    • @OldRustySteele
      @OldRustySteele 6 днів тому

      Obviously, “DieselDan09” is one of Scott Turbowski’s alias names. C’mon, Scott, you’ve been outed!!! 🤣😝😂

  • @JorgeRiverosTales
    @JorgeRiverosTales 8 днів тому +3

    Such a well done video.

  • @Racher081
    @Racher081 7 днів тому

    fantastic video great detail and analysis

  • @joebrito2066
    @joebrito2066 8 днів тому +1

    Great review gentlemen!

  • @NavYblu99
    @NavYblu99 8 днів тому +4

    Lovely. Appreciate ya'll.

  • @ForeverDownByLaw
    @ForeverDownByLaw 8 днів тому +4

    Respect both brands, and both are great products, but I'm team Honda based on personal experience.

  • @LoganWaddell-yx7iy
    @LoganWaddell-yx7iy 7 днів тому +1

    This channel has deserved 1m or more for years, let's get it done this year!

  • @Tony-uv4pd
    @Tony-uv4pd 8 днів тому

    Thank you! I was looking forward to your review between Camry Hybrid and Accord Hybrid. Your review is all about the no fluff (utility focus)

  • @cowmath77
    @cowmath77 8 днів тому +22

    Interior noise dampening really does mean a lot to me (I put a lot of miles on broken highways and gridlocked cities). I’d probably make my decision purely based on that. When I’m in my motorcycle I want the wind around me. When I’m in a car I want an isolation chamber.

    • @aprtur
      @aprtur 8 днів тому +4

      Oddly enough, if you're going to the high end trims, you're getting dangerously close to the Lexus ES and IS, Audi A4, Toyota Crown, and Acura TLX. If isolation is your number one priority, you'd probably be better off going a hair more expensive (or CPO) on one of those entry luxury vehicles, since they're considerably more insulated.

    • @kylelangley8818
      @kylelangley8818 8 днів тому +2

      @@aprturI was thinking the same thing.

    • @Mark-eu6mc
      @Mark-eu6mc 8 днів тому +1

      @@aprturwell said. I would not spend $40k for the premium versions with skinny tires for a commuter. I’d get a 2-3 year old ES300h. True isolation chamber with more sidewall and better interior.

    • @aprtur
      @aprtur 8 днів тому +2

      @@Mark-eu6mc absolutely - even saving a bit longer isn't out of the question since there are usually great deals on the ES. Or, for that matter, a CPO Avalon if the Crown is too outlandish (or you want the V6).

    • @fifzeppelin
      @fifzeppelin 6 днів тому

      @@aprtur In order to get similar features in an ES (better sound, hud, etc) including hybrid engine it basically shoots its price up to more around $52,000. That extra $10,000 may be worth it depending on what you're willing to spend, but I'm still torn.

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 8 днів тому +8

    Damn good comparison!

  • @xelawash
    @xelawash 7 днів тому

    Another first-class video! 💪👊

  • @johnmitchell8925
    @johnmitchell8925 8 днів тому

    Great video guys

  • @brenttitus2134
    @brenttitus2134 8 днів тому +4

    The better comparison would have been with the Accord Touring. Having a fully loaded XLE was not fair against the Sport-L.

    • @Mark-eu6mc
      @Mark-eu6mc 8 днів тому

      The accord hybrid touring is $39k. Not sure that’s a fair comparison.

    • @brenttitus2134
      @brenttitus2134 8 днів тому

      @@Mark-eu6mc That Camry XLE they used is $40k+. It was fully optioned out.

    • @Mark-eu6mc
      @Mark-eu6mc 8 днів тому

      @@brenttitus2134 I stand corrected (yikes that’s a lot of options.. XLE MSRP starts at $35k). But it was an availability issue; no Touring trims were available for filming.

  • @mykolashatkovskyi576
    @mykolashatkovskyi576 8 днів тому +14

    Best car review channel in US/Canada. Competence, dedication, details, humor, ... Love you, guys. Thank you for one more great video.

  • @johnr9528
    @johnr9528 7 днів тому +1

    48.3 MPG, 300+ miles into 2nd tank of a 2024 Accord Hybrid Touring version - typical suburban driving - admittingly serene driver most of the time. I almost bought the 2024 Camry V6 since they are going away forever...it was a sweet motor. Great review.

  • @EMdemo
    @EMdemo 8 днів тому +6

    Honestly, the full black interior in the Honda pulls on my goth heart strings.... But, just like the majority of my vehicles in the past, I just about die in the summer with how hot they get.... That's the only reason I'd consider skipping that one

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 8 днів тому +31

    The Honda hybrid physically connects the gasoline engine to the wheels at Highway speeds for reasons of efficiency. Otherwise there's conversion loss, twice

    • @DavidSimpsonJr973
      @DavidSimpsonJr973 8 днів тому +1

      Correct. I wonder if a V6 in the same setup livens things up and allows it to be put in their larger platforms.

    • @tiredconnoisseur
      @tiredconnoisseur 8 днів тому +6

      The fake shifts also dont use the clutch, unlike what Mark says. It is emulated purely by engine rpm. Thats why sportmode stops fake shifting at high speed for most power. Highest available power is with clutch disengaged so inverter can combine max engine power + boost from battery. Electric motor power is the limiting factor.

    • @Fadic4
      @Fadic4 8 днів тому

      The engine can also directly provide electricity to the wheels without going to the battery if needed as well.

    • @vladdutz20
      @vladdutz20 6 днів тому

      Sometimes it blends the clutches into the simulated shifts, from standstill to 200kmh it starts electrical, continues with 1st clutch, disconnects it and goes into simulation, after that it continues with 2nd clutch and keeps it until maximum speed.
      You can notice the sprocket symbol in the center of the dash

    • @kevinbarry71
      @kevinbarry71 6 днів тому

      @@vladdutz20 yes, Honda isn't going to just drop the clutch. It will be smooth

  • @FlyinGato
    @FlyinGato 8 днів тому +86

    I can’t believe I’m saying this but the styling on the Camry is better than the Accord, and that has never been true before. Also, these reviews need more donut holes and Arby’s

    • @trumpet12345
      @trumpet12345 8 днів тому +10

      Maybe concurrently. Both have looked good/bad on release or as time goes on. That said, I am not a fan of this Honda design. Reminds me of the final gen Ford Taurus front in a way.

    • @truckercowboyed2638
      @truckercowboyed2638 8 днів тому +3

      ​@@trumpet12345why is that bad the Taurus was handsome and mature....

    • @miniaddict4534
      @miniaddict4534 8 днів тому +4

      It’s funny to see Honda dropped the lobster claw tail lights but Toyota adopted them.

    • @robertorazo4694
      @robertorazo4694 8 днів тому +2

      ​@@miniaddict4534Actually no. Honda ripped off the "Lobster" tail lights🙄🙄. The 2012-2014 Camry had them first, then the Accord ripped those off. Just like they ripped off the Prius' overall shape with the first Insight

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain 7 днів тому +1

      @@robertorazo4694 the first insight came to market before the first prius did. also the first prius was a sedan that looks nothing like the insight lmao

  • @catherinejacobs4801
    @catherinejacobs4801 8 днів тому

    Thank you so much for this comparison video. I will be purchasing a new sedan in December and need help choosing between the two vehicles.

  • @HumbleBearcat
    @HumbleBearcat 3 дні тому

    That's was a great review! I would love to see the similar review for the Civic Hybrid vs Prius (FWD).

  • @matthewt3586
    @matthewt3586 8 днів тому +15

    Just bought an Honda Accord Hybrid EX-L and I love it. The Camry just became pricey when adding the option that I wanted. No regrets at all.

    • @TermlessHGW
      @TermlessHGW 7 днів тому +2

      As a proper petrol head I just can't get over the fact that they had a pretty much perfect sedan with the previous gen. 2l turbo with 250hp and 10 speed transmission. None of that cvt crap. Plus you could get it with a 6 speed manual as well. This gen with it's puny 1.5 or hybrid feels like it was made for the elderly.

    • @harrytej
      @harrytej 7 днів тому

      @@TermlessHGWMasses don’t want that.. just take your iphone as an example.. you want 20 hours of charging and need to be thinnest possible while running multiple apps with the biggest possible MP cameras… who wants the original Manual transmission these days? Tell me why should companies invest in this? Who’s buying ?

  • @TheDevilishHusky
    @TheDevilishHusky 7 днів тому +10

    2023 Accord Hybrid EX-L owner here. Best purchase I've ever made. The way the transmission works is amazing. Wish there was a plug-in variant.

    • @otomoravec1732
      @otomoravec1732 7 днів тому

      Congrats buddy, the car is great.
      There is no tranny, its just the e-motor driving the wheels, thats why its sooo smooth.

    • @Marc-vl9id
      @Marc-vl9id 6 днів тому

      Why does plug in variant exist?

  • @thegourmetgolfer5544
    @thegourmetgolfer5544 6 днів тому +1

    I'll take a spare tire over slightly mire trunk space any day of the week. Love that Toyota are still including them

  • @davidprosper3460
    @davidprosper3460 8 днів тому +2

    This is a video I will probably rewatch in 2-3 years when it comes time to settle on a family car.

  • @yellowfr0g
    @yellowfr0g 8 днів тому +4

    My takeaway from this video is bar donuts are called long johns in the midwest.

  • @levanceland
    @levanceland 8 днів тому +5

    7:09 you would think that with all the cars released with infotainment systems throughout a decade, Toyota would know by now what users want to access by now.

    • @fortheloveofnoise9298
      @fortheloveofnoise9298 7 днів тому +1

      Tastess change with time...but it is more of just an excuse to sell data

  • @Viralityoflife
    @Viralityoflife 8 днів тому +1

    I do happen to like the Bridgestones I just got on my new car. Never tried them before and yet the mileage is good, ride is pretty good, handling is good, and it lasts a long ass time. Good recommendation guys 👍🏻

  • @labradachig1976
    @labradachig1976 7 днів тому

    We need more videos like this. Please.

  • @michaelvella8511
    @michaelvella8511 8 днів тому +6

    Very very profecional review....I understand it's probably a lot of work producing and editing a review like this but so worth watching.

    • @churchofbrap876
      @churchofbrap876 8 днів тому +3

      Jack is an AI generated character that Mark has painstakingly developed over the years

  • @bluepoint4342
    @bluepoint4342 8 днів тому +8

    Ok what about the Camry with no Panoramic roof. Is it quieter than the Accord?

    • @sk-un5jq
      @sk-un5jq 7 днів тому

      Toyotatards.. lol. Go to your local dealers and test drive both and you'll be blown away at how much more quiet, insulated, and refined the Accord hybrid is. It feels like a Lexus ES for $15k less.

  • @TripleBerg
    @TripleBerg 8 днів тому +2

    Good info on how Toyota handles your private information and usage. I’ve never seen anyone do a technical analysis of the JBL systems. JBL is not a Mark Levinson system but I like how it sounds on my Avalon with 14 speakers and 1200 W amp.

  • @Mealsandwheels
    @Mealsandwheels 8 днів тому +1

    Thank you for a real world comparison 90% of us will actually consider. I was hedging for the Camry but i wasnt sure. Thanks!

  • @martifilipponi1024
    @martifilipponi1024 8 днів тому +3

    While I think that the Accord has a 20 year old digital display I do however like the interior, I like its understated class. Everyone is doing that bold contrast stitching, and I feel the camera is over the top with it..they tried to over glitch up a family Camry .

  • @domdrty
    @domdrty 8 днів тому +8

    People need to take the privacy issues with Honda more seriously because it can negatively impact their insurance.

  • @francoispanneton609
    @francoispanneton609 8 днів тому

    Best review!! 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @user-ev1rb3wt3w
    @user-ev1rb3wt3w 8 днів тому

    hi from australia great video.have to say i wish the awd was available here.we aussies miss out big time.keep up the great work

  • @louiszhang3050
    @louiszhang3050 8 днів тому +8

    I think people are being too harsh on the 11th Gen Accord just because the Accord wasn't quite as far ahead of the competitors as the 10th Gen Accord and it felt like there wasn't as much effort put into this generation specifically. But it's still a great car and still competes well with the Camry.

  • @TMM6900
    @TMM6900 8 днів тому +11

    AMD from car care nut said. Toyota hybrid for long term keeping. Honda hybrid for fun driving and leasing

    • @Fadic4
      @Fadic4 8 днів тому +3

      Hondas hybrid system is fairly simple, engine, 2 electric motors and a few clutches, nothing to worry about long term, they have been using it since 2014 without any major issues.
      The current set up has a direct injection engine only which is annoying,

    • @Mark-eu6mc
      @Mark-eu6mc 8 днів тому +6

      Him and Scotty Kilmer are unapologetically biased toward Toyota (not without reason..). I just don’t think it’s a bad decision to buy an accord. I’ve had friends and family with them reaching 300k miles and ran great.

    • @sk-un5jq
      @sk-un5jq 7 днів тому

      Bullshit. He never said that and Hondas can last as long as Toyotas with the same maintenance.

  • @mauriciosagasteguicanudas7167
    @mauriciosagasteguicanudas7167 5 днів тому +1

    Thank You‼️🏁

  • @nathangmyrek7443
    @nathangmyrek7443 7 днів тому +1

    The steering feel comment… “direct and lifeless” sums up the cars perfectly.