Acura & Honda Crankshaft Bolt Removal
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2020
- Removal of the bolt that holds the crankshaft pulley on an Acura or Honda can be a real pain. You must remove this pulley to replace the timing belt. I hope you can get some ideas of what to do, and what not to do while doing this job yourself.
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Appreciate someone showing how difficult the the crank bolt is to break loose! It took me pulling and my son pushing with his feet on a long breaker bar with a cheater. Very scary, but after hours fighting it I reached the limits of my patience. I really expected the same that happened to you😮
Thanks for your comments! It was a real pain.
Your jack-stand idea saved my a44! Thank you!!!
Thanks for watching!
i dont comment on many youtube videos or problems but this honda crank bolt issue really P**** me off, i had a bit of advantage as my k20 was on a stand and the stand was secured to the floor so i could get closer too the bolt for leverage, i spent 2 days with pry bars and cheater bars and even with a 550nm rattle gun but no joy!. i did notice with all the videos on youtube including this one all had the same issue with tooling, the tools used like breaker bars and extention sockets all had far to much give/play in them so the energy was being lost through the tools before getting to the bolt, so after 2 days i just had enough and done a bit more research and found this solution that worked almost instantly.
there is a socket on the market for harmonic crank bolts which is about 4x the mass of any impact socket but this alone was not enough, various videos suggested a high inpact gun so after a bit of research i bought the dewalt 899 which has 1650nm of breakawat torque :), i tried the impact gun along with a short impact socket but again it failed, i then tried the harmonic socket with the dewalt and within 3 seconds on power 3 with a full battery is spun off, the whole gun/socket and battery cost a fair bit in the UK but it done the job and now know there is not another bolt on a car the gun will not remove :) just thought i would share my experience with this dreaded bolt.
Thank you for your comments and insight. I will have to give that a try if I come across the problem again.
I never grunted and sweated as much watching a video as I did on this one! Whew! I need a beer!
Absolutely!
I'm not a mechanic but I read in another similar stubborn bolt removal that it is best to heat the washer around the bolt head. Not the bolt head itself,. As heat expands and the bolt which then will only get tighter.
Very good point. Ideally, one would heat up the nut and not the bolt. In this case, the nut, being the crankshaft, it was impossible to get to. One could probably use cold spray on the bolt head after heating. That might yield positive results.
I am surprised this fellow borrowed a neighbor's SK breaker bar. If he had broken that it would have been expensive to replace, You can;'t depend on Sk warranty any more, they are made in China now.
The solution is a high grade impact gun. I bit the bullet and bought a Milwaukee 1/2" impact gun that is rated at 1400 ft-lbs of torque. I also used the lysle 19mm part # 77080 socket. That combination took that bolt off in less than 10 seconds of hammering.
Please don't use heat. After that you may need to replace the crank seal.
My neighbor and I loan tools to each other all the time. We understand the risk. I dodged the bullet with the heat. The car now has almost 100,000 mi on this timing belt replacement, no oil leaks.
what is good of you that you tried and tried till you succeeded . all the best
At that point, I had no choice but to succeed!
Grato amigo por compartilhar teus conhecimentos e experiências, este teu vídeo aula muito vai me ajudar, pois preciso fazer esta manutenção no meu Honda Civic 2004, e com as tuas dicas vou tentar fazer.. Assistindo no Brasil em 25/08/2021. Obrigado e muito sucesso pra vc sempre..
Everything i buy from harbor freight Shredds, breaks, strips, or snaps, my warrior drill bits all broke under pressure, my sockets all strip under pressure, my Dads Craftsman wrenches, drill bits, and sockets never have broken on us, i need to buy a good craftsman set instead of going cheap.
Most of the things I get from Harbor Freight do the same. I try to only get their cheap crap for jobs I only expect to do once. Most of their stuff will last long enough to get the job one time!
I haven't tried it yet but there's a special socket for this, I've seen made by oem tools and lysle 19mm part # 77080, meant to be used with impact gun
Yup it works. What it does because of the extra "weight" in the socket, it will cause an extra "hammering" effect causing the bolt to break. There's 2 styles, both are good. Especially if you have an Earthquake impact, even with a Bauer. Just make sure the battery is fully charged.
I have one but too thick to fit in. My bolt was deep in the harmonic balancer. 99 civic. They do have one thatbis smaller the first inch but I coulndt find for sale as a 17mm.
Great guy, great people!!!
Drill an 8mm hole in the gearbox bell housing towards the ring gear teeth, jam the teeth with a screwdriver and get a breaker bar on the crank nut with no extension if possible. Works on any car manual or automatic.
I normally use a 3/4 wrachet with a 12 ft gas pipe...but you suppose to use a 9 ft pipe...I don't apply heat because the crank seal and the oil pump seal...I recently bought a 1" wrachet with a modified 1/2 reducer just in case ...
I just broke the crankshaft pulley bolt loose on my 2008 Honda Fit! I used a "3:1 Torque Multiplier ($257 new on Amazon)" and the crank pulley holding tool ($13). I ran a bunch of 1/2" extensions out from the multiplier and rested them on a jack stand and used a breaker bar with a 4 ft. cheater pipe on it and it broke loose. Even though the torque multiplier is rated for 1100 ft/lbs, I still had to put out on that cheater pipe. My 450 ft/lb. electric impact with the special crankshaft 19mm socket from Honda was not enough to break it loose.
They can be a bear to break loose. If it were to break off, it would really turn into a job!
On my 2014 Accord V6, I tried everything you did, I purchased the largest Makita 1/2”, the pulley holder tool and still no luck. I seen where adding heat to it helps. I used my industrial heat Gun and heated the bolt to 300°. It came loose with the big socket and the Makita XWT08Z 18V LXT®... I think heat on the bolt is necessary.
I didnt know that fred durst from limp bizkit is a mechanic.!
Wow amazing job fred durst from limp bizkit🤙
My secret is out...
Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
I'm all set to attempt the crank bolt in the morning.
I've been trying to get my crank pulley bolt off for almost 2 days , broke 3 High impact sockets , 4 extensions
And made an impact gun go to heaven trying to break this bolt free . Annnnddd I'm still trying to get it off lol glad you got yours broke loose .
Get a good socket and pull handle wedged in securely and bump the starter.
I've tried to bump start it off but it bent the breaker bar in a "U" shape lol that sucker is on there but I'm not giving up on it .
@@RailfanBobbyFocusMk208 All I would know to do is heat and penetrating oil. Just stay after it. My daddy always taught me nothing could withstand steady pecking.
Big D's Shade tree I agree , with a little more persistence I'm sure it'll break loose .
@@RailfanBobbyFocusMk208 I wish I had videoed when I used the starter. If I remember right, I used a shorter breaker wedged on the lower control arm. That was the first time I changed my timing belt. I don't know why I didn't remember that the second time. I guess all my struggles makes for better video!
I used the starter on a Ford Escort that had a water pump that was driven by the timing belt. I really don't see the danger neither, because it worked well and didn't damage anything. I've seen a couple vids where this method was attempted on a J series Honda and the starter wasn't able to bump and break it loose, even after 2 attempts. I'm in the middle of doing the timing belt and water pump on a 97 CRV, and getting ready to use heat. Already tried 2 air and 2 electric impacts with the lisle giant socket, days of PB Blaster, transmission and acetone mixed half and half, hammering with a punch, and some creative use of the worst vulgarity I've picked up over the decades. I've already had issues with the motor mounts and put so much torque on the front torque mount that the mounting bolt broke free from the engine rather than the front nut. I was able to remove it and the bolt was still good, but the broken mount was still attached and the nut still needed to come off. I got pissed and got my angle grinder and you know the rest. The nut is a couple dollars. I can't do that with the crank bolt and the starter can't be used because the engine spins counter-clockwise. And my breaker bars are Harbor Freight specials also. I'm gonna need all the luck I can find. When heat is used, you must crank on it within seconds of heating it - preferably while still red-hot - or it won't work. Learned this while I worked for a valve company as a rebuilder. These valves would come in with Lord only knows what kind of chemicals flowing through them, and some of the most corroded fasteners I've ever seen. Just hope this propane cylinder will get hot enough. I'm also gonna take a brass wire brush and attempt to get behind the washer and scrape some of that crud out so the oil can get back there and soak in. Thanks for posting your odyssey with the crank bolt. If u r interested i'll video my efforts if I can find a way to set up my phone.
I would love to hear how it came out for you!
you are a gentleman and a schlar
I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
Good stuff
Why would penetrating oil have any effect on an internal bolt?, It doesn't,the penetrant can't reach the threads so has no effect.
For a 2007 Honda Odyssey, to turn over the engine, would I need to turn the Crankshaft Clockwise or Counter-Clockwise
I'm pretty sure the crankshaft turns clockwise when you hit the starter. If you have a wrench holding the bolt, it will break it lose.
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Something got to break, Something got to give. I hope is it's the bolt🤣🤣🤣
So true!
Where you got the tool to hold the inside of the pulley?
O'Reillys
This is what I'm going to attempt. Haha
I would recommend getting the wrench wedged security against the lower control arm and bumping the starter to break it loose. Did it once before, but just didn't remember this time until I had already gone through all this work.
Ive done this on many other cars but the Civic was the worst one ever. Nothing ever came close. Tried everything, took me days and many sketchy moments. When it came loos it just turned. No pop, no drama. Weird.
Can you lower the piston this way without taking the bolt off?
Yes, you can rotate the engine by rotating the crank. A lot of engines, you can only rotate it in one direction because the crank bolt will loosen too easily.
Lol that was a tough bolt. Gahdamn.
How long is that cheater bar? I’m about to go this route, already have a 30 inch breaker bar and a 2ft pipe and hoping to god it is enough
It was a jack handle, about 4 ft long. If I were to do it again, I would let the starter do the work. Wedge the pull handle against the lower control arm and bump the starter.
Only good on a clockwise spinning crank.@@bigdsshadetree338
What are the torque specs to put it back
181 ft/lbs, seems like more than necessary to me.
Why You removed the Bolt?
You have to remove the bolt to get the pulley/harmonic balancer off in order to change the timing belt.
dont see how you guys are having such a hard time with them My impact takes them off in seconds .. no weighted socket get a good impact and impact and a weighted socket the sockets is like 10 bucks at ant part store or amazon
I don't know why it wouldn't be possible to design it so you could remove the plastic cover and slip the timing belt over pulley.
Oh of course, that's too easy.
That would make too much sence.
That's the same damn problem I'm having now!!!! trying to get the bolt off!!!! At this exact moment. FFFFFFFF*******K that bolt!!!!!
Cara buka salah tu old man.masuk batang paip pun x kemas 😂😂😂
I shaved down that handle to that same breaker bar and my jack handle slid right over it. Made a great cheater
Can't bump the starter. It's not reverse thread
You can bump the starter. I have done it on this very car.
11:35 when you buy Chinese tools this happens lmao
I totally agree. I did break a good ole Made In The USA pull handle at the same time... Thanks for watching!
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He said it was made in the USA!
omg ... :)
Thanks for watching!
Can Barely Hear You!
My cheater bar was 15 feet.
That's a pretty long cheater!
@@bigdsshadetree338 yes it is but it pop the nut like nothing. Life saver. Trust me I almost gave up.
@@HmongGuitarPlayer how long did it take you to get it off?
@@MrRottweiler72 It took me three days of trying with many techniques before I came up with 15 feet cheater bar. I almost gave up. But nowadays I bought a high torque Milwaukee impact and bang it’s easy now.
@@HmongGuitarPlayer how much torque on the impact?
Too much flex using all those extensions… I changed my 2003 CR-V front main seal in 30 minutes. Just used an 18 inch breaker with an impact socket up against the lower wishbone and flick the ignition… there’s a video on UA-cam showing how to do it… 99% of impact guns are useless for this job.
I totally agree. The first time I changed the timing belt on this car, that's how I broke the boat loose. This time, I just forgot. I'm losing my mind and my old age...
What link pls
30 minutes. Lol. Right 👍