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Lex, you have saved my life time and time again with your podcast along with your buddy Joe Rogan, I’ve learned so much, and have gained so much hope and inspiration to go on in life, whether that be in directions of new or full out mastery of my current status. When I was going through a difficult time, a few years ago, I stumbled upon an episode of JRE where I found you. Since then, I have educated myself, and consumed all of your content it was something I thought to be interesting, or many of your topics that I am indulged of enlightenment with. Apologies for the grammar, English isn’t as easy for me these days. Before having the para social relationship with you that I do now, I was on the verge of committing suicide due to an influx of daily life bullsht overwhelming my hard drive aka organics/brain. Even if the entertainment factor doesn’t always hit me with each of you, or guess I always learn some thing and end your episodes with a feeling of fulfillment, and hope for the future. You and Joe truly have changed and saved my life more than I can explain, in so many words. Sincerely, a lost toad looking for answers from the universe to understand the universe inside of myself if that makes any sense.
As always, I really appreciate the comments here. I read them and learn from them. I hope to talk to other side, including Ross Ulbricht himself. If I make mistakes, I will improve. In general, I'll talk to everyone, with empathy & compassion. I'll be attacked for this, but I won't give up. Love you all.
Will it be as easy to arrange an interview with Ross as it was with this guy? This guy actually violated the non aggression principle. Did Ross? The wrong person is locked up. Edit - Reserving criticism since I haven't been through the whole thing yet. But I feel sick, wondering if you'll push back on this guy and call him out for ruining lives. The state is the greatest violator of human rights. And I bet this guy feels totally entitled to do so.
You are cool, its just that the internet wont let this person have the easy way showing his face, with good reasons, no one has listened fully yet but it shows how much people dislike him
Lex. Even though we do not always agree on everything, I truly believe you are one of the most important podcasts on the air, in the world. I find you as fascinating as your guests. Thank you.
@@kreglfromworld his story has changed on that. It was originally that he tried to move it up the ladder but his latest stuff including with Stossel he spoke of why he did not go directly to superiors or a formal whistle blowing channel. Trying to understand the position and knowing how the system would rather disappear the "problem" than rectifing it.
The same glaring hypocritically sick joke I was not surprised to hear him utter. We already know that just the CIA on its own have done so many evil things such as manufacture illegal war, MKUltra, and other crimes that overall, they do more bad than good, so are an entire waste of money and net negative as well as a net injustice for the people overall. Most of the 3 letter agencies seem to be burdens on the people that mostly hinder Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Snowden is kind of a weird case because he broke the rules to get access to the information he leaked. The things he leaked he didnt personally have access to, he had to trick coworkers into letting him use their accounts. He also didnt just expose the misconduct of the government, he leaked documents that were comparatively mundane but classified still. So they want to use that as a technicality to basically write off the loss that is this info becoming public but still lock him up because he did in fact break laws not associated with the whistle blowing.
Silk Road was awesome, name brand medicine for 1/4th the price, saved my moms life multiple times, no thanks to the criminal organization known as our medical system. There are dark places all over the internet, Silk Road was no better, no worse. It was basically unfiltered, unmonitored, craigslist…
This fbi dude is the definition of a sheep, mindless and short sighted in his explanation. Using individual anecdotal experiences and refusing to acknowledge what was great on Silk Road. Perfect government slave, definitely would mindlessly follow orders…
You make a solid point. Kinda ridiculous that big pharma still has people convinced that some drugs are evil while their opioids are safe, and a bargain at only four times the price.
Lex, hearing you talk about getting hate online and it bothering you…compelled me to say, dude you’re a freaking gem of a human being. I know that so many others feel that way about you. You’re a real beacon in this place in time, with a big heart and the courage to let it shine. Keep doing you and stay true. The world needs you brotha 🌎❤️
Unfortunately @@cursed5359, you will probably never get an accounting that is untainted by the biases of one side or the other or both. There are much more thorough versions available though.
Lex, please have Ross Ulbricht's mother on to give their side of the story. There's so much misinformation going around. Has been for years. She's a great speaker and will make a great guest.
I wish there was a discussion about the corrupt FBI agents indicted with the Ross Ulbricht case. They got away with a slap on their hands whilst doing pretty horrible things.
I don’t think either of them was actually an FBI agent, one was a DEA agent and the other worked for the secret service. But the DEA agent I believe was the lead undercover agent on the case yet Ross’ defense attorneys weren’t allowed to even mention it at trial.
Wow I love the Amazing flow of dialogue back and forth , the small laughter agreements over tangents is really refreshing to see, like truely very old friends it’s awesome
I work as a metal worker, welding, grinding, painting, etc, and wear protective gear 75% of my work day. This enables me to listen to Lex interviews in their entirety, and this was tremendous. 3 hours passed as if in a moment. Interview concludes, shut down the drill press, wash up a go home. Pretty good day, inspite of the frightening cyber apocalypse about to befall mankind! Lex + guest= good times... ✌🏻
Also a metalworker and listen to 6-8hrs of podcasting a day. Going in depth on topics and long form conversation makes you realise how surface level the news and public opinion is on most things.
This may seem weird but don’t wear wireless AirPods because in order for both to work, one starts and the radiation etc has to go through your brain to get the other one to work. Either wear one at a time or go back to the earphones with the wire.
@@romes3217 I work outside and can also listen for hours at a time and I feel sometimes it’s tough to have conversations with the normie’s who don’t have a clue what this world is really about
Ross Ulbricht should be freed from jail. He's done his time, his sentencing was ridiculous and didn't deter anyone from doing the exact same thing. I'd argue the DEA are more corrupt than Ross ever was.
He thought be had already killed people(ross). Don't let your desire for drug freedom make you think he was some swell freedom advocate. Yes.he was extorted, guess its your interior call on whether he is excused for passing torture and death sentences on those folks..he saw those as people as bugs,and it was time to squash.
@@johnscott6481 He did'nt kill anyone. He got a life bid for drugs. They used his supposed "attempted murder charge" as leverage for his sentence, but never convicted him of murder for hire.
There are people who rape, torture, and murder, and get 20-30 years in prison. There are also people who repeatedly molesters children and get 5-10 years. Yet Ross ran a drug website and got life plus 40 years. Something is out of wack.🤔
Judge said they want to make an example so others don't follow, clearly stupid approach and didn't even work as a deterrent. I truly hope Ross gets presidential pardon at some point, like I hope people will wake up (maybe it's stupid hope, but hope dies at the end), and vote someone who values freedom, privacy, and maybe someone more liberal could see an issue with that sentences. Like if he spent like 10 years in prison that's already soo much, 15 years, 20, but lifetime? Cruel and pointless.
A while back, the FBI busted a CP distributer that was using Tor. The defense lawyer requested discovery on how his client was identified, and the FBI dropped all charges. They have a way around Tor and are totally unwilling to let the public know about it.
It was called pegasus. Which the CIA uses today overseas so as you can imagine the FBI is using it to here in the United States we have to give Tim Cook accolades because of his lockdown mode which eliminated the Pegasus threat.
@@duanejackson6718 volunteers, did you even consider making any research? I run relays, no profit, I do it, because I want to, lots of people like me run relays. You can run a relay too, it's not expensive, it's not very hard, and if they don't control enough nodes the whole effort is wasted. You can also use your own relay as entry into tor network and then blend your traffic with other traffic that you might relay through.
@@MasterKaloryfer well I'm glad you're volunteering to do noble work, but we're kidding ourselves if we don't think intelligence agencies aren't involved somehow with the flow of information. Then it seems likely they have some way of tracking the flow of information.
@@SmartDumbNerdyCool he isn't in jail for providing that service he's in jail for ordering hits dude. read the transcripts. i have nothing against adults doing whatever they want with their own bodies and taking what they will but he crossed a line. that said life is too long for his sentence.
@Tom L Wrong. He was never tried on those charges. He was convicted on drug, money laundering, and hacking charges. Also, he is not in jail, he’s in prison.
@ I mean you could potentially have a podcast with someone in prison through visitation. Either in person through the glass or even just a long phone call.
Ross Ulbricht can not be visited I'm pretty sure. They put that dude over a barrel and the entire US Govt and all its agencies took turns on his ass. This Tarbell guy went first. The judge went last.
@@4x4r974 yeah that kinda muddies the waters since he one thousand percent did that, but was never convicted of it. He got life without parole even without that though so he might not care about admitting it? If he is still appealing he probably wouldn't talk.. but I'd be interested to know whether he's turned over a new leaf, or whether he'd try to deny it and spin some story.
anytime someone says, "We had to do it". I get the sense they are justifying acts that they realize are immoral. Or at least self serving motives that they are attributing to a greater good.
We had to do it because we have circumstantial evidence of him sending hits on 6 people... I understand what you're saying but at the same time they "had to do it".
When the market was up, one could go through listings and make better informed purchases. Competition between sellers kept product cleaner and reasonably priced. Bad batches of product could be more easily accounted for and disreputable sellers could be suppressed. It was far from a perfect system, but was ironically much better for safe drug use.
@@Sam_Bent as a tip to anyone considering this route (which you definitely should never ever consider because drugz bad), don't pick a totally new vendor, but don't pick the one with thousands of reviews either. The new ones are a gamble because there aren't enough reviews. The old ones can be a gamble because they don't have such strong incentives to earn their place in the market through high quality goods anymore.
@@Sam_Bent Thanks for clarifying. I haven't kept up with it for a while. Lots of markets, but I feel they come and go quicker than the silk road managed to stay up. I meant the market as silk road specifically. There's so much I can't keep up with things now.
Lex really knows how to invoke emotions out of the people he interviews; shows the humanity within us all. Definitely got some tears out of me in the end as well.
He's the perfect example of "in hindsight do you think they were bad guys or you were the bad guys?" His answer "I was just doing my job" ..doesn't think about or gaf if he's doing right or wrong just "it's the law" "it's code blah blah"
What do you expect from an unapologetic FBI loser. Class act greedy pig that made a ton of money at taxpayers expense to prop up a horrendous operation that they still blandly pledge allegiance to (the war on drugs).
This is my parents, police both. I've been working on them for years. They both voted Libertarian down the ticket the last two elections. That counts for something, I guess.
The government has no more right to tell me what goes into my mouth, including illegal drugs, than it has to tell me what comes out of my mouth. Milton Friedman
I’d like to hear from one of the low iq chimps who think the government should tell you what you are allowed to do with your own body. How do you come to such a silly conclusion.
@@Dragonstar-p5c Same goes for people who eat unhealthy food then? imho, public health care should work like insurance companies, how they do a risk assessment based on your life style, which influences how much you're covered, how much you should pay, etc. which would include food, drugs, etc.
This dude is a scumbag and is directly responsible for thousands of deaths of people who couldn't order pure stuff anymore and had to get street drugs again. Anyone who works for the government should not be trusted, they have this internal allegiance to the corrupt elites and will betray their fellow citizens.
Police is not self governance there is a protocol in every situation and the need for self thinking should be minimsed. You have no idea how hard it is to work as a police officer, there are idiots every where but lets enlighten those who do good and understand that every tries to their best and you can't just say something like that in a way that makes axiomatic because its not. You have to have deeper understanding then this. Stop blaming others and look at what you can do to improve your life and the life around you, stop staying in negativity
People who end up in situations where a cop has to follow orders to detain them should take accountability for why they are in that situation in the first place.
I always find it entertaining when Lex asks someone to "steel man" their opponent, and they say "Sure, so ... [he or she begins to restate their own argument]."
That man literally leaked military training and research documents that were in no way against any privacy laws or regulations. Entire plans to protect Americans military or civilian. Not once did Snowden even attempt to go through proper channels which are anonymous. Besides that he could have just leaked the documents pertaining to the actual crimes but he didn’t, even attempting to sell the data to the Chinese and Russians
I enjoyed the podcast immensely and thanks to Chris Tarbell for participating. I just find it bizarre that the justification for invasion of privacy is "well Big Tech does it, soooo"
@@WetBoy I think both things are true. I also think that we surrender our privacy to companies every day without a second thought, but when the government does it in the name of national security everyone is up in arms. You want a climb up my ass with an electron microscope? If it prevents another 9/11 you feel free.
Big tech sells it. Biggest buyer the us government or data mines that sell it to the us gov. Also, not a big government guy but if you felt that private companies selling private info is the real problem then why is government not stepping in to protect that? It’s a self filling prophecy. Idk if I’m making sense but fuck why do we try to think individuals have any rights it’s companies and government that own them and they will never give them back or try to protect us.
I am glad he is in jail for so long. All of you are pretending that the only thing sold on the Silk Road was drugs, tons of child pornography and sex trafficking existed on it as well. And even if it was only drugs, the belief that users are the only ones negatively impacted by drug use is asinine. Drug users have a much higher likelihood of committing violent crimes, and an extraordinarily higher chance of committing property crimes to fund their habit. Arguing that drug use is fine because some users aren’t addicts and aren’t committing additional offenses is akin to arguing no one should be charged with DUIs. If they didn’t hurt anyone on that night, it’s not a problem, even though it significantly increased the likelihood of harm to the community. And that doesn’t even get into the issues caused to society for the harm done to the users themselves. We end up using tons of social services to try to help people struggling with addiction, from government benefits to medical services. Because almost all of those scheduled drugs are highly addictive and it ends up destroying the lives of many users. Plus, society loses competent workers and instead has to spend to take care of the addicts. Society loses the benefit of having competent parents, it’s dangerous for kids to be watched by someone who is high, and drugs impair brain activity making it harder to teach kids as they grow. And this all stems from the concept that we should “let adults do what they want.” Is it still a conscious and thought out decision when the person is an addict whose brain is changed to need those substances? Is it still a conscious decision when many users are self-medicating mental health issues?
@@shmuelcoen9906 *"Arguing that drug use is fine because some users aren’t addicts and aren’t committing additional offenses is akin to arguing no one should be charged with DUIs"* NO, it's akin to arguing that alcohol should be illegal because some people drive drunk. The rest of your rambling is destroyed by this one point.
@@LIQUIDSNAKEz28 1. We are talking about drug dealers, not drug users. In my analogy, Ross isn’t the one driving, he’s the bartender purposefully over serving the customer then handing the keys to the car. 2. Alcohol and drugs are not a 1:1 comparison. The drugs on the Silk Road are significantly more dangerous, and using itself is inherently dangerous as opposed to alcohol. A couple of quick results from studies about specific drugs: - a study of methamphetamine users in England found that 24% of those who had been taken to the hospital for detox were dead within 15years - heroine users are on average 63x more likely to die than their respective demographics - a study of cocaine users in Brazil found 18.5% mortality rates within 5 years. That’s the differences. For many of the drugs Ross was putting up for sale, mortality rates of 20% are expected within a few years
The dude who founded silk road himself didn’t even do anything wrong. He just created a website, he shouldn’t have been arrested. They go after the WRONG people just to make it look like they’re actually doing good.
He didn’t just make a website and then walk away. He was actively running it and making millions from facilitating highly illegal activities. Big difference! 😂 His punishment was ridiculously excessive.
Snowden was the real ‘patriot’. He was helping protect the privacy and security of the people of his nation when the government he worked for had lost its moral compass.
Mass surveillance is a good thing. And people talk about "invasion of privacy" yet mass surveillance is so under the radar that people don’t even realize they are being watched and thus it doesn’t even get in the way of their every day lives so it’s not really invasive in any way
@@Mster_J that’s the most psychotic thing I’m going to hear today. If I’m staring through your window all day, watching you, is it ok because you don’t know it?
He did good for public but I'm not quite sure the initial motive was that. I think they stepped on his foot, it happens, then he wanted to show who's really the boss, which he did. The other side of course will never come out with a story of things that was never meant to be told, obviously they all dealing with dirt, we know that and I'm pretty sure snowden knew it right from the beginning.
Lex asking Tarbell if it was safe for him to bring on a wanted cyber criminal is like the farmer asking the wolf if it's safe for the sheep to graze there. :)
he was safer with the criminal (brett johnson) than he was with this FBI agent.... notice, Chris talks tough against child predators yet 3pstein & Maxwell were conveniently *not* mentioned throughout this entire 3 hour conversation despite the dozens of eyewitness reports made to FBI from 1992-2018
Lex, you speak of your heroes often and I appreciate that. I've had many heroes in my lifetime, but after discovering your podcast a few months ago, you have become my greatest hero. Thank you for everything you represent. You're an inspiration to many. Cheers!
2:40:12 - As a IT recruiter with years of experience, Chris nails this one. It is insane how companies always want new talent but won't hire someone without experience in every imaginable area. Companies too often focus on a list of skills rather than finding a person that can make their company better with some time and investment.
This is why REAL startups are great. They will often roll the dice on people, you often have the chance to make a REAL difference inside of them, and its usually a true meritocracy. In the beginning at least. Hahaha
@@MRBOOCH526 when an expert literally said the same thing... It sounds more like there is demand for it that isn't being fulfilled not participation award esk
EXACTLY. I’m an engineer and knee so many brilliant engineering students who could never get a job because they’ll only hire people for experience… for entry level jobs and internships. So the geniuses and hard workers wouldn’t necessarily be the ones getting the positions. It would be the engineers who had friends or family with connections.. definitely not the most talented engineers either
Great interview. That being said, the sooner we stop allocating resources to stopping people from taking substances, the better. People should get to make that decision for themselves.
Lex I just watched this conversation on Spotify. I had to leave a comment. You are are great man Lex. You are the definition of 'Loving with Strength ' .
Lex, I have experience what you are speaking about at 1:33:00. You are one of my favorite people on this planet due to the fact that you approach things with an open heart, open mind and intense skepticism and curiosity. Don’t ever let other people’s ignorance and hate influence you in a negative way. The conversations and dialogue you facilitate are immeasurable in their value to the human species. You actually remind me of myself in a lot of ways and it gives me hope for my future and the future of the world. Love ya man!!
Each time you have these deep talks with all different walks of life.... It leaves me wanted to be better, closer and more loving to those around me. You are an amazing person lex. Thank you for your contributions
It just leave me with more questions. Why is this young guy in a suit mentally capable of manhandling this federal agent that was trained how to psychologically manipulate people but has no real idea why.
It would be so fun to actually sit down and talk to Lex. What a cool guy. Just a regular dude that just so happens to be a literal genius. It would be fun. Smart people with humility are rare.
@T11 I find it funny. All you internet tuff guys. You say things that would get you a beat down if it was said in person. Good thing you can hide in Mommy's basment. 🙃
I lost my dad a just over a year ago.. The Dad part hurts. I found out their are two types of men. Men with fathers and men with fathers that have passed away. When our father is gone it feels, not like the audience is missing a member, but the whole audience is gone. I've never felt so alone and isolated from a world that doesn’t seem to understand. For what its worth. I'm proud of you Chris. I know your fathers spirit is proud even if he can't tell you. And to your kids your the best Dad they will ever have! Thank you for your story. Love the Channel Lex
I lost mine when I was 18... 20 years ago. I hate to tell you this, but it doesn't get much easier. It's like as my life progresses, I'm reminded over and over that I can't share it with my father. And you're 100% right about two types of men. That said, nothing... NOTHING will launch you into maturity as quickly as loosing your father. And in a way, that can be asset that other's your age don't have.
Condolences for your loss, but you missed a category of men. The bastards. My neighborhood was nothing but latch key kids, exhausted mothers who didn’t have the energy to run around the neighborhood trying to keep their kids out of trouble, or didn’t work at all but were too pilled up to provide effective parenting, and very few fathers in sight. Our mothers were part of the second wave feminism movement in a time of free love and counter-culture drug use. Combine that with the post war family dynamic where the homemaker wife was quickly becoming a thing of the past and divorce was beginning to be seen less as taboo and more as liberating. The luxury of living in a newly emerged world super power free of soul-crushing poverty, threats of famine, and a society ruled by a government that wasn’t killing people in the streets for expressing controversial ideas, the rejection of belief in a higher power, along with so many other factors resulted in what I and so many others born around the same time to be part of generation bastard. As a kid, life was mostly wonderful. Home life was not wonderful, but the freedom we had running around certainly was. In retrospect, I see how detrimental it was for all of us, not having positive male figures to instill discipline and responsibility, provide proper guidance, teach us how to change tires/oil, teach us how to maintain composure when dealing with confrontation rather than lashing out and fighting because we equated physical dominance to being real men…I do good with hood shit. I know how to operate in situations with sketchy figures. That environment feels much more comfortable than meetings at work with leadership because I lack that confidence. STILL. Though I have a good reputation at work, I feel like I’m just lucky to be there, so I don’t assert myself as much as others. I am 42 and I still feel this shit. And I’ve only recently began to connect these dots. With that said, I did have my grandfather who I would see every few months. When I got in trouble, my mother would send me to his place and he was…IS a man of character, integrity and honor and I take many of his lessons with me in life. I always count that blessing. It was more than most of my friends had. Anyway, this diatribe is only to say, despite the pain you must have in losing your father, if he was a good father and took time to prepare you for life, then you are lucky. Never knowing my father made it easy to not care about him not being there. But now, I am resentful. I hope I’ve been a good father to my son. I’ve tried to teach him how to be a good man. God bless.
@@gliza “For a man whose father was distant or absent, this loss of audience was felt long before his father’s death as he struggled in vain to earn his father’s approval. Now at his death the loss is doubled as the son realizes he can never gain the approval he craved when his father was alive.” You correct some people are lucky. Some people get a “easier start”. Growing up with out a Dad must have been harder then anything I can comprehend. To be a man to stand up against this world alone and never have a dad around from the time of being a kids. Takes a man stronger then I may ever be. The moment I lost my father something broke inside of me I know will never heal. To feel that way from such a young age, I can only attempt to comprehend how hard that was. I’ve spent the last year trying to learn about and understand what it does to a man to loose his father. Connecting the dots has helped me more then anything. (Why I do the things I do. Why I feel the way I do.) It’s hard to focus on the pain to dive into that dark place and understand it. But once the dots are connected and you understand it. It’s easier to live. I have a son. To be honest that’s the only thing that keeps me moving. My dad wasn’t perfect. I don’t think he knew how to be a dad because of his relationship with his father. But my dad who gave me my blood. No matter what he did. It’s just engraved into a son that a father is the most important thing around. As long you live and no matter how ungrateful your son may be you are around sometimes. You are the most important thing that will ever be. Sadly no son knows that till their father is gone. It’s impossible for him to understand how important you are to him as long as you live. But it’s absolute. Most men’s goal is to give their kids a better life. And just being there for you son you’ve accomplished a goal. Since my Dad died I’ve only survived not thrived. I worked for myself but I closed my shop I owned. But as I learn / connect my dots. I feel closer to reopening my business. The next opportunity to a better job. I wish you would take it. Your pain holds you back. But your worth it. Your the most important thing a son will ever have, again, whether both of you realize it now or not. It’s absolute and can not change no matter what happens. It’s engraved in us. Between a father and a son.
Lex, thank you for your work. I really enjoy your podcast, the interviews and the way you’re doing them. I really believe you're a kind soul and your channel which I recently discovered, is one of the best on youtube. I'm really happy that I discovered you and just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate the work you do. Please keep up the good work and keep spreading love. It's what we need, more than ever in this world and you're contributing a great deal to it. All my best to you.
Thanks for another great conversation, Mr. Fridman. I have never experienced an interview style like yours. You actually take long pauses to think and allow people to respond in earnest. You allow your audience to sit in the discomfort of a complicated answer, and that is so valuable today in a media environment that wants to live in a black-and-white narrative so they can control the story.💚Thank you once again.
Lex is quickly becoming my favorite...entity in existence. The depth of thought and curiosity...makes me curious and thoughtful. You're the man Lex, it's always awesome 😎
Recently discovered your podcast after seeing your name all over the place for the past few weeks. I've watched several of your episodes now and I have to say, I appreciate your personality and they way you move calmly and naturally through your topics. Great interviewer, I look forward to learning more about your background and what has contributed to your success here. Great job
Federal agents should be required to read Crime and Punishment, and write an essay proving that they understand it to a moderately sufficient degree...
@@AndyMacaskill Lex Fridman is the softcore porn of long form podcasts The whole time, you just wish he'd go harder faster, but he holds back like a cock tease
Yeah. Whether or not I agree with Lex's positions on certain topics at any time, I never doubt that he is honestly seeking to understand, and sharing that journey.
@@rsautos If they stopped the war on drugs, it would stop hurting ALOT of people. Think of the money spent trying to fight drugs that could have been used to help people fight drugs ! People have used drugs for far longer than when they started fighting against it... and people will continue to use drugs until the end of time whether others agree with it or not. It's just another way of forcing control on us. Most of the world's "elite" evidently take substances themselves, regularly. Stop bowing down to them, stop worrying about what others do with their lives and just be happy that you live such a perfect life that you don't feel the need to unwind or cope with substances...
The Silk Road days were truly the best time on the internet. Having said that, I don’t delude myself. Ross let his quest for power cloud his judgement. Couple that with every man’s weakness and it was only a matter of time. He legit tried to have a fictional person killed. I don’t agree with the sentence but let’s not pretend DPR was just a web designer lol
This guy: “We can’t let people communicate and trade freely without government surveillance. We must monitor everything you buy and who you talk to and what you say.”
Chris-"I'm not big government type..." Also chris one minute before hand-"There are rules to whistle blowing...And Snowden is a bad guy" Ok there Mr. FBI. MCAA
I'm anti FBI, former NSA, and I'm going to tell you point blank what Snowden did was not done right. He put lives at risk, instead of his own. He's no hero. I'm glad it all came out, but not how it was done. There are ways to turn in the officers you're working for, and that wasn't done.
y’all didn’t actually research’s nothing about Snowden. He leaked countless documents on American citizens and military docs that had nothing to do with illegal or even privacy violations. Also why did he never go through proper channels that are made to hold people accountable. Why did he try to sell the data to the Chinese first?
@@merchant_of_kek5697 cause you talk to him on the daily right? Proper channels?? You- "Yes government, please investigate yourself because you are violating the Constitution." Government- " we have investigated ourselves and found we did nothing unconstitutional." You- "See, he is the bad guy, government told me." MCAA
Thanks Lex for doing your part to help the FBI look credible right before they were exposed on twitter. I also loved your flaccid tweet about how it was "unfortunate" they got caught.
One of the huge qualities I love about your videos other than its content and quality: is the fact I can go to any part of the video due to the good job chaptering the videos.
@Lex Fridman I would love it if you could interview Ross Ulbricht’ Mother she has actual facts and it would have been great if you asked him about the 2 cops who had control of the website, stole Bitcoin and went to jail there’s a lot he’s not saying
I’m not Tarbells biggest fan but he had nothing to do with that. The whole Baltimore division was rogue and the other cops were DEA. Ross tried to have six people killed. And before you say it didn’t happen, true, but there’s this thing called attempted murder. Ulbricht is not a good person and he clearly didn’t even believe in his own principles when they interfered with him gaining power.
@@duanejackson6718 the murder for hire plot was a figment of the FBIs imagination. And Lynn would be a phenomenal guest. Also FUCK tarbell I hope it's a cold day in hell when he arrives.
The number of times he says “I’m honest and transparent” makes it exceptionally clear this “former fbi agent” is not honest and transparent. Lex illuminating these glow boys
Lex... Kathleen here...I want to say you are an excellent interviewer. I find your show very interesting. You obviously care deeply. All I recommend to watch our show are of the same opinion. Keep throwing in your efforts with Joe and Elon the world depends on your fresh efforts.
@@merc9nineby his own admission he looks at hundreds if not thousands of “kiddie p*rn” images aka he is a 50 year old man who looks at 12 year old girls taking nudes on a daily basis. I’m pretty sure there’s a word for that. Doesn’t it start with ped and end with ophile or something?? The only men who make my blood boil are the ones who feel entitled to secretly and “legally” steal children’s photos of themselves for their own pleasure. “It makes my blood boil to see this pictures” yeah sure buddy it’s not like you’ve literally seen more child porn than 99.999% of human beings who have ever lived. UTTERLY DISGUSTING. There is far more to the story but I’m pretty sure enough said, this is a prime example of the human garbage that should be executed out of existence. No words express how disgusting it is for a child to learn that someone who looks like this has been staring at their 13 year old bodies because they feel entitled to do so AS IF THAT’S WHAT THE CHILD WANTS. He is perverted beyond measure. That’s the simple explanation If you think it is okay for adults to look at hundreds of images and videos of child porn, then you have no right to think it is not okay for adults to look at child porn. If you don’t understand that, then congrats, you’re delusional enough to be brainwashed into the FBI and you can go steal children’s privacy and ogle their genitals. If anyone in America actually cared about getting rid of pedos, these guys would be bunking next to Larry Nassar. Just utterly disgusting that the government has this ability. If any human had this ability, the FBI would lock them up. IS THE PROBLEM OBVIOUS ENOUGH YET? Along side that, this dude lies and exaggerates constantly as anyone with an IQ above 10 could tell you That’s one basic reason why
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1:16 - Silk Road
11:39 - Mass surveillance
15:50 - Operation Onion Peeler
21:06 - Hacker Avunit
31:56 - Ross Ulbricht and Silk Road
44:39 - Edward Snowden
46:44 - NSA surveillance
58:51 - Silk Road murders
1:07:37 - Dark web
1:11:39 - Ross Ulbricht's arrest
1:19:37 - Aaron Swartz
1:22:55 - Donald Trump and the Mar-a-Lago raid
1:26:01 - Tech companies and censorship
1:35:00 - War in Ukraine
1:38:58 - Anonymous and LulzSec
1:49:10 - FBI
1:52:11 - Personal threats
1:57:57 - Hector Monsegur a.k.a Sabu
2:11:07 - Cyber attack threats against civilians
2:27:55 - Most secure operating system
2:31:44 - Cyber war
2:39:38 - Advice for young people
2:44:50 - FBI's credibility
2:53:21 - Love
cop
Lex, you have saved my life time and time again with your podcast along with your buddy Joe Rogan, I’ve learned so much, and have gained so much hope and inspiration to go on in life, whether that be in directions of new or full out mastery of my current status. When I was going through a difficult time, a few years ago, I stumbled upon an episode of JRE where I found you. Since then, I have educated myself, and consumed all of your content it was something I thought to be interesting, or many of your topics that I am indulged of enlightenment with. Apologies for the grammar, English isn’t as easy for me these days. Before having the para social relationship with you that I do now, I was on the verge of committing suicide due to an influx of daily life bullsht overwhelming my hard drive aka organics/brain. Even if the entertainment factor doesn’t always hit me with each of you, or guess I always learn some thing and end your episodes with a feeling of fulfillment, and hope for the future. You and Joe truly have changed and saved my life more than I can explain, in so many words. Sincerely, a lost toad looking for answers from the universe to understand the universe inside of myself if that makes any sense.
No mention about Carl Force? Disappoint.
💖
Great podcast as always Lex.
As always, I really appreciate the comments here. I read them and learn from them. I hope to talk to other side, including Ross Ulbricht himself. If I make mistakes, I will improve. In general, I'll talk to everyone, with empathy & compassion. I'll be attacked for this, but I won't give up. Love you all.
Will it be as easy to arrange an interview with Ross as it was with this guy?
This guy actually violated the non aggression principle. Did Ross?
The wrong person is locked up.
Edit - Reserving criticism since I haven't been through the whole thing yet. But I feel sick, wondering if you'll push back on this guy and call him out for ruining lives. The state is the greatest violator of human rights. And I bet this guy feels totally entitled to do so.
Thats what we appreciate about you Lex, love & respect.
You are cool, its just that the internet wont let this person have the easy way showing his face, with good reasons, no one has listened fully yet but it shows how much people dislike him
Lex. Even though we do not always agree on everything, I truly believe you are one of the most important podcasts on the air, in the world. I find you as fascinating as your guests. Thank you.
talk to ted kaczynski
I love how the subject is that Snowden didn't follow the rules when he actually exposed the government were not following the rules.
Not to mention he did bring up his ethical questions internally before leaking the documents publicly, after being unacknowledged.
@@kreglfromworld his story has changed on that. It was originally that he tried to move it up the ladder but his latest stuff including with Stossel he spoke of why he did not go directly to superiors or a formal whistle blowing channel. Trying to understand the position and knowing how the system would rather disappear the "problem" than rectifing it.
The same glaring hypocritically sick joke I was not surprised to hear him utter. We already know that just the CIA on its own have done so many evil things such as manufacture illegal war, MKUltra, and other crimes that overall, they do more bad than good, so are an entire waste of money and net negative as well as a net injustice for the people overall.
Most of the 3 letter agencies seem to be burdens on the people that mostly hinder Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
I know right
Snowden is kind of a weird case because he broke the rules to get access to the information he leaked. The things he leaked he didnt personally have access to, he had to trick coworkers into letting him use their accounts. He also didnt just expose the misconduct of the government, he leaked documents that were comparatively mundane but classified still. So they want to use that as a technicality to basically write off the loss that is this info becoming public but still lock him up because he did in fact break laws not associated with the whistle blowing.
Silk Road was awesome, name brand medicine for 1/4th the price, saved my moms life multiple times, no thanks to the criminal organization known as our medical system. There are dark places all over the internet, Silk Road was no better, no worse. It was basically unfiltered, unmonitored, craigslist…
This fbi dude is the definition of a sheep, mindless and short sighted in his explanation.
Using individual anecdotal experiences and refusing to acknowledge what was great on Silk Road.
Perfect government slave, definitely would mindlessly follow orders…
isn't it still up in some form anyway?
You make a solid point. Kinda ridiculous that big pharma still has people convinced that some drugs are evil while their opioids are safe, and a bargain at only four times the price.
@Bill Gates Reading Mein Kamf *Mein Kampf
@@Ultamami hahahahahah
Lex, hearing you talk about getting hate online and it bothering you…compelled me to say, dude you’re a freaking gem of a human being. I know that so many others feel that way about you. You’re a real beacon in this place in time, with a big heart and the courage to let it shine. Keep doing you and stay true. The world needs you brotha 🌎❤️
Ditto
The main takeaway from Lex interviewing people from CIA/FBI is that there is no such thing as a former CIA/FBI person.
55:11 Tarbell eyed him suspiciously. Awkward silence
Also, Lex is one of them and is propped up by youtube.
Mother should I trust the goverment?
@@НилИванов-ж1ц proof?
Yeah. Lex glows too. It’s obvious he’s in their circles. The dude is a canned intellectual and a grifter
a podcast with Ross Ulbrich would be insane!
Yeah, he's the actual hero who changed the world. F*ck this class traitor.
From jail would be awesome too.
It would have to be a phone call interview. I think he got life in prison. Didn't he?
@@timtags 2 life sentences plus 20 years I believe
His mum is the 1 doing podcast interviews now. She wants her son back
For a former government employee that wants total government control without any accountability he sure repeats "I'm not for big government" a lot.
That seems to be Republicans whole plat form. 😂😂😂 like I agree with some of the stuff your saying but those actions tell a different story
@@Whosyourdaddy21 republicans and democrat politicians both want total government control, and they work together to accomplish that.
@@PineappleBaconPizza oh I 100% agree. I just get more annoyed by the republicans always talking about small government.
@@Whosyourdaddy21 *platform
@@Whosyourdaddy21 *you're
The story about taking down Silk Road went right from getting the server files from Iceland to having DPR in custody. They skipped like, everything...
That's because everything they did in between was illegal and a violation of Ulbricht's rights
@@mooninites755 is there somewhere I can hear the actual story then?
@@mooninites755welcome to the United States of America? First time visiting?
Unfortunately @@cursed5359, you will probably never get an accounting that is untainted by the biases of one side or the other or both.
There are much more thorough versions available though.
@@mooninites755yep let’s focus on protecting the crims. You’re a George Floyd fan too I bet
Lex, please have Ross Ulbricht's mother on to give their side of the story. There's so much misinformation going around. Has been for years. She's a great speaker and will make a great guest.
Agree.
Link to her talks plz
He won’t. Lex is one of them.
@@BigDaddyDru one of whom?
@@limbo3545 the establishment class.
Lex, a computer scientist, pretending not to know what an IP address is for the sake of clarification for the audience is hilarious 😂
A true interviewer
I laughed out loud when he pretended not to know what an IP address was, lex you fox 😂
I know right?
He’s trying to throw Chris off the scent. Lex IS Avunit lmao
this is my first ever Lex podcast, I was so damn confused. Googled who his was and thought it had to be a joke!
I wish there was a discussion about the corrupt FBI agents indicted with the Ross Ulbricht case. They got away with a slap on their hands whilst doing pretty horrible things.
What were they doing?
What kinds of things did they? Never heard about the FBI agents.
@@dkexpat2755 "Barely Sociable" kind of glosses over some shit that they did, iirc. Great breakdown on his channel about the Silk Road, btw.
I don’t think either of them was actually an FBI agent, one was a DEA agent and the other worked for the secret service. But the DEA agent I believe was the lead undercover agent on the case yet Ross’ defense attorneys weren’t allowed to even mention it at trial.
@@jumpingbombangels2856 Yep, The DEA guy was Carl Mark Force. Already released.
Wow I love the Amazing flow of dialogue back and forth , the small laughter agreements over tangents is really refreshing to see, like truely very old friends it’s awesome
I work as a metal worker, welding, grinding, painting, etc, and wear protective gear 75% of my work day. This enables me to listen to Lex interviews in their entirety, and this was tremendous. 3 hours passed as if in a moment. Interview concludes, shut down the drill press, wash up a go home. Pretty good day, inspite of the frightening cyber apocalypse about to befall mankind! Lex + guest= good times... ✌🏻
im jealous. id love to listen to good content while working.
Holy shit that was 3 hours? I did not even notice. Nowaaaaayy
Also a metalworker and listen to 6-8hrs of podcasting a day. Going in depth on topics and long form conversation makes you realise how surface level the news and public opinion is on most things.
This may seem weird but don’t wear wireless AirPods because in order for both to work, one starts and the radiation etc has to go through your brain to get the other one to work. Either wear one at a time or go back to the earphones with the wire.
@@romes3217 I work outside and can also listen for hours at a time and I feel sometimes it’s tough to have conversations with the normie’s who don’t have a clue what this world is really about
Ross Ulbricht should be freed from jail. He's done his time, his sentencing was ridiculous and didn't deter anyone from doing the exact same thing. I'd argue the DEA are more corrupt than Ross ever was.
He thought be had already killed people(ross). Don't let your desire for drug freedom make you think he was some swell freedom advocate. Yes.he was extorted, guess its your interior call on whether he is excused for passing torture and death sentences on those folks..he saw those as people as bugs,and it was time to squash.
@@johnscott6481 He did'nt kill anyone. He got a life bid for drugs. They used his supposed "attempted murder charge" as leverage for his sentence, but never convicted him of murder for hire.
@@johnscott6481Big pharma has been convicted of killing tens of thousands in the name of profit and only has to pay a fine. Why is this any different?
They're genuine scum, think they have the right to tell people what they can or can't put in their bodies, scum
@@Morphings epstein didnt kill himself
The harmful and immoral war on drugs should
be ended
"A war on drugs is better than no drugs at all." - Kurt Vonnegut
amen.
@@alandoane9168 haha agreed… first time hearing that quote. Thank you
"I NEED MY DRUGS I NEEEEEED MY DRUUUUGS"
@@pl3bx bbbaaaaahhh bbbaaaaaahhhh
One of My favorite episodes.. Love everything about it.
The opening up at the end, dhamm.
Lex knows how to make his guests feel welcomed & loved
There are people who rape, torture, and murder, and get 20-30 years in prison. There are also people who repeatedly molesters children and get 5-10 years. Yet Ross ran a drug website and got life plus 40 years. Something is out of wack.🤔
The government Mafia must make a strong extreme examples against their competition otherwise other mafias will come in and take over their turf
Our corrupt government doesn't like competition.
Judge said they want to make an example so others don't follow, clearly stupid approach and didn't even work as a deterrent. I truly hope Ross gets presidential pardon at some point, like I hope people will wake up (maybe it's stupid hope, but hope dies at the end), and vote someone who values freedom, privacy, and maybe someone more liberal could see an issue with that sentences. Like if he spent like 10 years in prison that's already soo much, 15 years, 20, but lifetime? Cruel and pointless.
Yall conveniently forgot the dude ordered people killed 🤣
The war on drug's is a war on people! The federal government still has cannabis a schedule 1 drug which is totally absurd.
A while back, the FBI busted a CP distributer that was using Tor. The defense lawyer requested discovery on how his client was identified, and the FBI dropped all charges. They have a way around Tor and are totally unwilling to let the public know about it.
They probably just walked into the guys office since he was probably an FBI agent, they seem to love CP.
I'm sure the cia owns the TOR relays and servers and can follow the chain.... Who else could maintain the network.
It was called pegasus. Which the CIA uses today overseas so as you can imagine the FBI is using it to here in the United States we have to give Tim Cook accolades because of his lockdown mode which eliminated the Pegasus threat.
@@duanejackson6718 volunteers, did you even consider making any research? I run relays, no profit, I do it, because I want to, lots of people like me run relays. You can run a relay too, it's not expensive, it's not very hard, and if they don't control enough nodes the whole effort is wasted. You can also use your own relay as entry into tor network and then blend your traffic with other traffic that you might relay through.
@@MasterKaloryfer well I'm glad you're volunteering to do noble work, but we're kidding ourselves if we don't think intelligence agencies aren't involved somehow with the flow of information. Then it seems likely they have some way of tracking the flow of information.
Lex better follow this up with an interview of Ross
From Jail lol
They should just release Ross. That would be the humane thing to do. Guy was just providing a service at the end of the day.
@@Garivich He can’t. Last time they tried he was thrown in solitary for a week. Lex should interview Ross’s mother.
@@SmartDumbNerdyCool he isn't in jail for providing that service he's in jail for ordering hits dude. read the transcripts. i have nothing against adults doing whatever they want with their own bodies and taking what they will but he crossed a line. that said life is too long for his sentence.
@Tom L Wrong. He was never tried on those charges. He was convicted on drug, money laundering, and hacking charges. Also, he is not in jail, he’s in prison.
I love how everytime he gives a criminal tip, he makes it even more clear by announcing it “not to make a playbook”🤣 hysterical
A podcast with Ross Ulbricht would be absolutely epic! Even bigger than Snowden on JRE.
not gonna happen, see War on drugs
@ I mean you could potentially have a podcast with someone in prison through visitation. Either in person through the glass or even just a long phone call.
Ross Ulbricht can not be visited I'm pretty sure. They put that dude over a barrel and the entire US Govt and all its agencies took turns on his ass. This Tarbell guy went first. The judge went last.
@@4x4r974 yeah that kinda muddies the waters since he one thousand percent did that, but was never convicted of it. He got life without parole even without that though so he might not care about admitting it? If he is still appealing he probably wouldn't talk.. but I'd be interested to know whether he's turned over a new leaf, or whether he'd try to deny it and spin some story.
Your guest list is better than JRE these days mate. Keep the interesting guests coming
That's a personal opinion correct?
When I scroll through JRE show interviews, it feels like 90% of the interviews are of comedians
I believe about 20% of the words that come out of this man’s mouth.
Why? I Don't understand your statement.
@@ApoIIo95 It's easy to understand no one in the CIA and FBI can be trusted he admitted looking up files after being retired that is a federal crime.
Because he's a gman, a trained liar
What did he lie about? Why would he?
Exactly, like he like donuts and red meat and human growth hormones!
@lexfridman your channel popped up on my algorithm few months ago and I'm so glad.
anytime someone says, "We had to do it". I get the sense they are justifying acts that they realize are immoral. Or at least self serving motives that they are attributing to a greater good.
Can you time stamp that
@@geesung4444 fuck are you talking about
"You could buy hits" this guy is either misinformed or an idiot.
We had to do it because we have circumstantial evidence of him sending hits on 6 people... I understand what you're saying but at the same time they "had to do it".
This guy could have gone after child organ harvesters but chose to go after Sabu, a optical hactivist?
When the market was up, one could go through listings and make better informed purchases. Competition between sellers kept product cleaner and reasonably priced. Bad batches of product could be more easily accounted for and disreputable sellers could be suppressed. It was far from a perfect system, but was ironically much better for safe drug use.
Darknet markets still exist, in abundance.
@@Sam_Bent as a tip to anyone considering this route (which you definitely should never ever consider because drugz bad), don't pick a totally new vendor, but don't pick the one with thousands of reviews either. The new ones are a gamble because there aren't enough reviews. The old ones can be a gamble because they don't have such strong incentives to earn their place in the market through high quality goods anymore.
Great episode Lex! It was really interesting. Hope you manage to get Ross on as well!
@@Sam_Bent Thanks for clarifying. I haven't kept up with it for a while. Lots of markets, but I feel they come and go quicker than the silk road managed to stay up. I meant the market as silk road specifically. There's so much I can't keep up with things now.
Orrrr, stop doing those types of drugs. Pretty easy.
Really glad u mentiond Aaron Swartz the man was a true hero
Lex really knows how to invoke emotions out of the people he interviews; shows the humanity within us all.
Definitely got some tears out of me in the end as well.
He's the perfect example of "in hindsight do you think they were bad guys or you were the bad guys?" His answer "I was just doing my job" ..doesn't think about or gaf if he's doing right or wrong just "it's the law" "it's code blah blah"
That's exactly what the Nazis said at the Nuremberg trials: "I was just following my orders!"
What do you expect from an unapologetic FBI loser. Class act greedy pig that made a ton of money at taxpayers expense to prop up a horrendous operation that they still blandly pledge allegiance to (the war on drugs).
And to take it a step further, he displays a certain amount of emotional / mental weakness which is perfect in his trainer's mind.
This is my parents, police both. I've been working on them for years. They both voted Libertarian down the ticket the last two elections. That counts for something, I guess.
Yup, It's how egotards get roasted
The government has no more right to tell me what goes into my mouth, including illegal drugs, than it has to tell me what comes out of my mouth.
Milton Friedman
fine with me, but don't ask me to pay for any emergency care/healthcare when what you put in your mouth causes someone to OD.
100% agree
I’d like to hear from one of the low iq chimps who think the government should tell you what you are allowed to do with your own body. How do you come to such a silly conclusion.
yes the gov do.
@@Dragonstar-p5c Same goes for people who eat unhealthy food then?
imho, public health care should work like insurance companies, how they do a risk assessment based on your life style, which influences how much you're covered, how much you should pay, etc. which would include food, drugs, etc.
I like how whenever Lex asks him to steelman the other side, he says sure but just says some random stuff thats still defending his side lol
What would you expect from a fed? If he had any intellectual integrity he wouldn’t be in the line of work he is in…
I noticed that too, but he is so likeable and open, it didnt bother me too much
@@therainman7777 😂😂🤣🤣🙏🏽❤️🫂
Yes please have the mother on she's great
He's not a scientist or a debater is the reason
Yes definitely bring the hacker on your very popular podcast :)
Said the Former FBI agent
Officer that says “I’m just following orders.” The easiest way a cop avoids responsibility of what is ethical or not.
This dude is a scumbag and is directly responsible for thousands of deaths of people who couldn't order pure stuff anymore and had to get street drugs again. Anyone who works for the government should not be trusted, they have this internal allegiance to the corrupt elites and will betray their fellow citizens.
Nuremberg Principle IV. This has long been established.
Police is not self governance there is a protocol in every situation and the need for self thinking should be minimsed. You have no idea how hard it is to work as a police officer, there are idiots every where but lets enlighten those who do good and understand that every tries to their best and you can't just say something like that in a way that makes axiomatic because its not. You have to have deeper understanding then this. Stop blaming others and look at what you can do to improve your life and the life around you, stop staying in negativity
People who end up in situations where a cop has to follow orders to detain them should take accountability for why they are in that situation in the first place.
Seems FBI 7th floor is clearly
Ah, Two FBI Agents having a conversation. This is gonna be fun 😀
I think Lex would fit more with the CIA than FBI. He's the ultimate sleeper :D
@@BitwiseMobile true. I don't even believe that's his actual personality if that's the case lmao
Please let lex be space force counter intel
@@BitwiseMobile *KGB* lol.
I see two terrorists with sociopathy
I always find it entertaining when Lex asks someone to "steel man" their opponent, and they say "Sure, so ... [he or she begins to restate their own argument]."
ben shapiro vibes lol
Yah just give up expecting people to know this word made up yesterday and phrase it for normal people
3 million subscribers. well done Lex. good to see it happen to the right kind of people. love your work. toodeloos
"Rules of being a whistleblower" is such a dystopic phrase
That man literally leaked military training and research documents that were in no way against any privacy laws or regulations. Entire plans to protect Americans military or civilian. Not once did Snowden even attempt to go through proper channels which are anonymous. Besides that he could have just leaked the documents pertaining to the actual crimes but he didn’t, even attempting to sell the data to the Chinese and Russians
Fucking THANK YOU!
I was so disturbed scrolling through the comments. So much support for this traitor.
Snowden. Is. King.
Of course you can blow a whistle, just wait a sec while I get the approved tunes…
Yeah. Rules that would make sue that info would be s saw "lost". This guy is compromised
@@dw3585 wait you’re saying Snowden is a traitor?
I enjoyed the podcast immensely and thanks to Chris Tarbell for participating. I just find it bizarre that the justification for invasion of privacy is "well Big Tech does it, soooo"
I don't think it was a justification for invading privacy. His point was that people think they value their privacy more than they actually do.
@@WetBoy big tech can't prosecute, or leverage citizens to "cooperate" with the government, or else...
@@WetBoy I think both things are true. I also think that we surrender our privacy to companies every day without a second thought, but when the government does it in the name of national security everyone is up in arms. You want a climb up my ass with an electron microscope? If it prevents another 9/11 you feel free.
No it’s def a justification
Big tech sells it. Biggest buyer the us government or data mines that sell it to the us gov. Also, not a big government guy but if you felt that private companies selling private info is the real problem then why is government not stepping in to protect that? It’s a self filling prophecy.
Idk if I’m making sense but fuck why do we try to think individuals have any rights it’s companies and government that own them and they will never give them back or try to protect us.
The comments here give me faith in humanity. Free Ross
I am glad he is in jail for so long. All of you are pretending that the only thing sold on the Silk Road was drugs, tons of child pornography and sex trafficking existed on it as well.
And even if it was only drugs, the belief that users are the only ones negatively impacted by drug use is asinine. Drug users have a much higher likelihood of committing violent crimes, and an extraordinarily higher chance of committing property crimes to fund their habit. Arguing that drug use is fine because some users aren’t addicts and aren’t committing additional offenses is akin to arguing no one should be charged with DUIs. If they didn’t hurt anyone on that night, it’s not a problem, even though it significantly increased the likelihood of harm to the community.
And that doesn’t even get into the issues caused to society for the harm done to the users themselves. We end up using tons of social services to try to help people struggling with addiction, from government benefits to medical services. Because almost all of those scheduled drugs are highly addictive and it ends up destroying the lives of many users.
Plus, society loses competent workers and instead has to spend to take care of the addicts. Society loses the benefit of having competent parents, it’s dangerous for kids to be watched by someone who is high, and drugs impair brain activity making it harder to teach kids as they grow.
And this all stems from the concept that we should “let adults do what they want.” Is it still a conscious and thought out decision when the person is an addict whose brain is changed to need those substances? Is it still a conscious decision when many users are self-medicating mental health issues?
@@shmuelcoen9906 *"Arguing that drug use is fine because some users aren’t addicts and aren’t committing additional offenses is akin to arguing no one should be charged with DUIs"*
NO, it's akin to arguing that alcohol should be illegal because some people drive drunk. The rest of your rambling is destroyed by this one point.
@@LIQUIDSNAKEz28
1. We are talking about drug dealers, not drug users. In my analogy, Ross isn’t the one driving, he’s the bartender purposefully over serving the customer then handing the keys to the car.
2. Alcohol and drugs are not a 1:1 comparison. The drugs on the Silk Road are significantly more dangerous, and using itself is inherently dangerous as opposed to alcohol. A couple of quick results from studies about specific drugs:
- a study of methamphetamine users in England found that 24% of those who had been taken to the hospital for detox were dead within 15years
- heroine users are on average 63x more likely to die than their respective demographics
- a study of cocaine users in Brazil found 18.5% mortality rates within 5 years.
That’s the differences. For many of the drugs Ross was putting up for sale, mortality rates of 20% are expected within a few years
Bartender..no...in your analogy he would be the owner,proprieter,and security, with the power to impose the death penalty to unruly patrlns
@@johnscott6481 true, that fits much better
The dude who founded silk road himself didn’t even do anything wrong. He just created a website, he shouldn’t have been arrested. They go after the WRONG people just to make it look like they’re actually doing good.
bro he ordered a murder
@@asapomiyeah.... there's that lol
"bro" that's bullshit, you are regurgitating fbi nonsense! @@asapomi
He didn't order any murders
He didn’t just make a website and then walk away. He was actively running it and making millions from facilitating highly illegal activities. Big difference! 😂
His punishment was ridiculously excessive.
Snowden was the real ‘patriot’. He was helping protect the privacy and security of the people of his nation when the government he worked for had lost its moral compass.
Mass surveillance is a good thing. And people talk about "invasion of privacy" yet mass surveillance is so under the radar that people don’t even realize they are being watched and thus it doesn’t even get in the way of their every day lives so it’s not really invasive in any way
@@Mster_J that’s the most psychotic thing I’m going to hear today. If I’m staring through your window all day, watching you, is it ok because you don’t know it?
Russian spy, Putin's pet, and a traitor.
He did good for public but I'm not quite sure the initial motive was that. I think they stepped on his foot, it happens, then he wanted to show who's really the boss, which he did. The other side of course will never come out with a story of things that was never meant to be told, obviously they all dealing with dirt, we know that and I'm pretty sure snowden knew it right from the beginning.
@@Gobbldeegoo1 That was a good analogy tho
Listening to Chris Tarbell is like listening to an alternate universe “Sopranos” episode where Tony is a cyber FBI agent, and is a total rule follower
I thought the same thing, especially from the thumbnail😂
OMG ~ YESSS!
Chris never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Order followers are bad guys so yeah. They just do what they are told regardless of what is right or wrong, like this FBI agent terrorist
Lex is Furio ahah
Lex asking Tarbell if it was safe for him to bring on a wanted cyber criminal is like the farmer asking the wolf if it's safe for the sheep to graze there. :)
lmaoooo you know FBI agents were watching
Yeah. Lex is so innocent, it's endearing.
@@realMaverickBuckley are you dense?
he was safer with the criminal (brett johnson) than he was with this FBI agent.... notice, Chris talks tough against child predators yet 3pstein & Maxwell were conveniently *not* mentioned throughout this entire 3 hour conversation despite the dozens of eyewitness reports made to FBI from 1992-2018
BTK is a great example of this.
46:06 "There's ways set up for being a whistleblower." Love it when power attempts to regulate truth.
Whenever we heard him explain that that was his job, that it was what he had to do, you just know he is basically going to the Nuremberg defense.
The Nuremberg trials themselves were crazy and unfair, but yeah I get what you're saying
Free Ross Ulbricht
@@Sanctifires thank you for the info
Agents in gov have a lot of power that is abused quite often. They need to be closely monitored
Better would be to NOT fund them. Stealing from the public to injure the nations citizens is a terrible idea.
Exactly right u would think
by whom?
They are to a certain clearance level
@@Adrian_Galilea Vote Libertarian, NEVER 2 party. Support the rights of man and limit the powers of sociopaths who live to harm people.
Lex, you speak of your heroes often and I appreciate that. I've had many heroes in my lifetime, but after discovering your podcast a few months ago, you have become my greatest hero. Thank you for everything you represent. You're an inspiration to many. Cheers!
Is Lex the AV Unit, sitting literally in front of the former FBI Agent?
2:40:12 - As a IT recruiter with years of experience, Chris nails this one. It is insane how companies always want new talent but won't hire someone without experience in every imaginable area. Companies too often focus on a list of skills rather than finding a person that can make their company better with some time and investment.
This is why REAL startups are great.
They will often roll the dice on people, you often have the chance to make a REAL difference inside of them, and its usually a true meritocracy.
In the beginning at least. Hahaha
Spoken like a true participation trophy generation member. 😭😭😭
Companies prefer the perfect candidate motivated AND experienced. In unemployment structural economy, there will always be.
@@MRBOOCH526 when an expert literally said the same thing... It sounds more like there is demand for it that isn't being fulfilled not participation award esk
EXACTLY. I’m an engineer and knee so many brilliant engineering students who could never get a job because they’ll only hire people for experience… for entry level jobs and internships. So the geniuses and hard workers wouldn’t necessarily be the ones getting the positions. It would be the engineers who had friends or family with connections.. definitely not the most talented engineers either
If you have enough money you can buy all those things from the FBI.
Great interview. That being said, the sooner we stop allocating resources to stopping people from taking substances, the better. People should get to make that decision for themselves.
💯
You have a beautiful heart, Lex Fridman. Stay vulnerable and real because you inspire so many of us. Much love and respect :)
Edward snowden is a hero. To humanity.
Lex I just watched this conversation on Spotify. I had to leave a comment.
You are are great man Lex. You are the definition of 'Loving with Strength ' .
Lex, I have experience what you are speaking about at 1:33:00. You are one of my favorite people on this planet due to the fact that you approach things with an open heart, open mind and intense skepticism and curiosity. Don’t ever let other people’s ignorance and hate influence you in a negative way. The conversations and dialogue you facilitate are immeasurable in their value to the human species. You actually remind me of myself in a lot of ways and it gives me hope for my future and the future of the world. Love ya man!!
That bit were Chris knew what Lex was gonna say was insane
Time stamp pls? 🙏🙏
@@Squirrel-zq6oe 7:55
@@bos9824 awesome lol thank you! That was crazy
32:49 (timestamp to return me to my place in the video)
Each time you have these deep talks with all different walks of life.... It leaves me wanted to be better, closer and more loving to those around me. You are an amazing person lex. Thank you for your contributions
It just leave me with more questions. Why is this young guy in a suit mentally capable of manhandling this federal agent that was trained how to psychologically manipulate people but has no real idea why.
@@Aelawen omg
Lex: Can you steel man the opposing side on that issue?
Guest: No, but I can reiterate my own position in another way.
🤣
That sums up the mindset of a brainwashed gov't thug to a T. This guy would have proudly loaded people into boxcars back in Germany.
Best pod I’ve seen for ages. Incapacitated 🎉
Lex have superb interviewing skills and also communication skills. He made things that are complicated to sound straight forward and clear.
It would be so fun to actually sit down and talk to Lex. What a cool guy. Just a regular dude that just so happens to be a literal genius. It would be fun. Smart people with humility are rare.
you eat paste if you believe lex is a genius 😂😂
@@wcatcher5622 its not a black/white term. so how do you define genius?
@@PotenjeOpica Knowing that the media landscape before you is being cultivated, and by whom.
@Wcatcher, like what kind of paste? Tomato? Guess I win.
@T11 I find it funny. All you internet tuff guys. You say things that would get you a beat down if it was said in person. Good thing you can hide in Mommy's basment. 🙃
I lost my dad a just over a year ago.. The Dad part hurts. I found out their are two types of men. Men with fathers and men with fathers that have passed away. When our father is gone it feels, not like the audience is missing a member, but the whole audience is gone. I've never felt so alone and isolated from a world that doesn’t seem to understand. For what its worth. I'm proud of you Chris. I know your fathers spirit is proud even if he can't tell you. And to your kids your the best Dad they will ever have! Thank you for your story. Love the Channel Lex
I lost mine when I was 18... 20 years ago. I hate to tell you this, but it doesn't get much easier. It's like as my life progresses, I'm reminded over and over that I can't share it with my father. And you're 100% right about two types of men. That said, nothing... NOTHING will launch you into maturity as quickly as loosing your father. And in a way, that can be asset that other's your age don't have.
@@chadmiller1222 Same 19, 15 years ago, feels like yesterday.
your words hit me. 3 years ago here. dreams don't go away, painful reminders
Condolences for your loss, but you missed a category of men. The bastards. My neighborhood was nothing but latch key kids, exhausted mothers who didn’t have the energy to run around the neighborhood trying to keep their kids out of trouble, or didn’t work at all but were too pilled up to provide effective parenting, and very few fathers in sight. Our mothers were part of the second wave feminism movement in a time of free love and counter-culture drug use. Combine that with the post war family dynamic where the homemaker wife was quickly becoming a thing of the past and divorce was beginning to be seen less as taboo and more as liberating. The luxury of living in a newly emerged world super power free of soul-crushing poverty, threats of famine, and a society ruled by a government that wasn’t killing people in the streets for expressing controversial ideas, the rejection of belief in a higher power, along with so many other factors resulted in what I and so many others born around the same time to be part of generation bastard.
As a kid, life was mostly wonderful. Home life was not wonderful, but the freedom we had running around certainly was. In retrospect, I see how detrimental it was for all of us, not having positive male figures to instill discipline and responsibility, provide proper guidance, teach us how to change tires/oil, teach us how to maintain composure when dealing with confrontation rather than lashing out and fighting because we equated physical dominance to being real men…I do good with hood shit. I know how to operate in situations with sketchy figures. That environment feels much more comfortable than meetings at work with leadership because I lack that confidence. STILL. Though I have a good reputation at work, I feel like I’m just lucky to be there, so I don’t assert myself as much as others. I am 42 and I still feel this shit. And I’ve only recently began to connect these dots.
With that said, I did have my grandfather who I would see every few months. When I got in trouble, my mother would send me to his place and he was…IS a man of character, integrity and honor and I take many of his lessons with me in life. I always count that blessing. It was more than most of my friends had.
Anyway, this diatribe is only to say, despite the pain you must have in losing your father, if he was a good father and took time to prepare you for life, then you are lucky. Never knowing my father made it easy to not care about him not being there. But now, I am resentful. I hope I’ve been a good father to my son. I’ve tried to teach him how to be a good man.
God bless.
@@gliza “For a man whose father was distant or absent, this loss of audience was felt long before his father’s death as he struggled in vain to earn his father’s approval. Now at his death the loss is doubled as the son realizes he can never gain the approval he craved when his father was alive.”
You correct some people are lucky. Some people get a “easier start”. Growing up with out a Dad must have been harder then anything I can comprehend. To be a man to stand up against this world alone and never have a dad around from the time of being a kids. Takes a man stronger then I may ever be. The moment I lost my father something broke inside of me I know will never heal. To feel that way from such a young age, I can only attempt to comprehend how hard that was.
I’ve spent the last year trying to learn about and understand what it does to a man to loose his father. Connecting the dots has helped me more then anything. (Why I do the things I do. Why I feel the way I do.)
It’s hard to focus on the pain to dive into that dark place and understand it. But once the dots are connected and you understand it. It’s easier to live.
I have a son. To be honest that’s the only thing that keeps me moving. My dad wasn’t perfect. I don’t think he knew how to be a dad because of his relationship with his father. But my dad who gave me my blood. No matter what he did. It’s just engraved into a son that a father is the most important thing around. As long you live and no matter how ungrateful your son may be you are around sometimes. You are the most important thing that will ever be. Sadly no son knows that till their father is gone. It’s impossible for him to understand how important you are to him as long as you live. But it’s absolute.
Most men’s goal is to give their kids a better life. And just being there for you son you’ve accomplished a goal.
Since my Dad died I’ve only survived not thrived. I worked for myself but I closed my shop I owned. But as I learn / connect my dots. I feel closer to reopening my business.
The next opportunity to a better job. I wish you would take it. Your pain holds you back. But your worth it. Your the most important thing a son will ever have, again, whether both of you realize it now or not. It’s absolute and can not change no matter what happens. It’s engraved in us. Between a father and a son.
Lex, thank you for your work. I really enjoy your podcast, the interviews and the way you’re doing them. I really believe you're a kind soul and your channel which I recently discovered, is one of the best on youtube. I'm really happy that I discovered you and just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate the work you do. Please keep up the good work and keep spreading love. It's what we need, more than ever in this world and you're contributing a great deal to it. All my best to you.
Holy shit, Lex. This was a pleasant surprise and a fantastic interview. RIP Aaron Schwartz.
Yep I almost didn't watch this interview, but what a wonderful pleasant surprise it turned out to be.
What they did to Ross was aweful and unethical. These three letter institutions are the real bad guys.
Silk Road 0 - FBI 1
@@badcornflakes6374most obvious fed
Loser fed or family/friend there of. No other loser would write this!@@badcornflakes6374
I really love the "Can you steelman..." category of questions.
And these FBI guys never can
@@TheMateyl Can you steelman the case that some of 'these FBI guys' might surprise you?
@@boreallifts2042 Open to it.. none so far has though
Lmao right I’m noticing a pattern
Its corny
Thanks for another great conversation, Mr. Fridman. I have never experienced an interview style like yours. You actually take long pauses to think and allow people to respond in earnest. You allow your audience to sit in the discomfort of a complicated answer, and that is so valuable today in a media environment that wants to live in a black-and-white narrative so they can control the story.💚Thank you once again.
If someone told me that the Hank Schrader character from breaking bad was based on this guy, I'd buy it.
God damn it marie they are minerals!!!
Well they are. They're not rocks.
Steve they're both ISTJ personality types. You can see it so clearly.
@@TokyoTaisumyres Briggs is pseudo science
Lex is quickly becoming my favorite...entity in existence. The depth of thought and curiosity...makes me curious and thoughtful. You're the man Lex, it's always awesome 😎
He has no pattern recognition ability
@@BoxRadishScissors Bingo
Recently discovered your podcast after seeing your name all over the place for the past few weeks. I've watched several of your episodes now and I have to say, I appreciate your personality and they way you move calmly and naturally through your topics. Great interviewer, I look forward to learning more about your background and what has contributed to your success here. Great job
I don't think I can go down this rabbit hole. This interview was wild.
Federal agents should be required to read Crime and Punishment, and write an essay proving that they understand it to a moderately sufficient degree...
LOVE this idea!
I would be happy if they just had to take a reading comprehension test
This comment wins
I think they should also read "The most dangerous superstition".
@@drumetul_dacic Everyone should read that masterpiece
If I had a dollar everytime I fell asleep listening to a podcast, then woke up listening to a Lex Fridman podcast instead, I'd own the bank
Holy shit me too.... I can't believe im not alone
OMG ditto here, now back to my nap😆
Yep, same. UA-cam likes Lex, which sets off alarm bells for me.
@@AndyMacaskill Lex Fridman is the softcore porn of long form podcasts
The whole time, you just wish he'd go harder faster, but he holds back like a cock tease
Holy fuck I thought it was just me
Can't believe this guy is going to go to his grave pretending he didn't create the baby parts post to get the warrant.
Without a doubt, Lex is my favourite podcaster at the moment..Stay true to yourself mate and keep on doing what you do..Truly amazing work..
Yeah. Whether or not I agree with Lex's positions on certain topics at any time, I never doubt that he is honestly seeking to understand, and sharing that journey.
"The FBI agent that put a kid in prison for two life sentences for making a website". What a hero.
I'm cool with it.
@@janus3555of course you are my boot licking friend
think whole amount people the drugs affected or hurt.l
@@rsautos If they stopped the war on drugs, it would stop hurting ALOT of people. Think of the money spent trying to fight drugs that could have been used to help people fight drugs ! People have used drugs for far longer than when they started fighting against it... and people will continue to use drugs until the end of time whether others agree with it or not. It's just another way of forcing control on us. Most of the world's "elite" evidently take substances themselves, regularly. Stop bowing down to them, stop worrying about what others do with their lives and just be happy that you live such a perfect life that you don't feel the need to unwind or cope with substances...
The Silk Road days were truly the best time on the internet. Having said that, I don’t delude myself. Ross let his quest for power cloud his judgement. Couple that with every man’s weakness and it was only a matter of time. He legit tried to have a fictional person killed. I don’t agree with the sentence but let’s not pretend DPR was just a web designer lol
This guy:
“We can’t let people communicate and trade freely without government surveillance. We must monitor everything you buy and who you talk to and what you say.”
This maybe be weird for me to say Lex. You are awesome and a very thoughtful human.. Love you bro!!!
Chris-"I'm not big government type..."
Also chris one minute before hand-"There are rules to whistle blowing...And Snowden is a bad guy"
Ok there Mr. FBI.
MCAA
I literally LOL at that one.
Ruby Ridge.
I'm anti FBI, former NSA, and I'm going to tell you point blank what Snowden did was not done right. He put lives at risk, instead of his own. He's no hero. I'm glad it all came out, but not how it was done.
There are ways to turn in the officers you're working for, and that wasn't done.
y’all didn’t actually research’s nothing about Snowden. He leaked countless documents on American citizens and military docs that had nothing to do with illegal or even privacy violations. Also why did he never go through proper channels that are made to hold people accountable. Why did he try to sell the data to the Chinese first?
@@merchant_of_kek5697 cause you talk to him on the daily right? Proper channels??
You- "Yes government, please investigate yourself because you are violating the Constitution."
Government- " we have investigated ourselves and found we did nothing unconstitutional."
You- "See, he is the bad guy, government told me."
MCAA
G: “Child exploitation pisses me off!”
Also G: “Let’s go after drugs!” 🤦🏼♂️
Lex you are so innocent and naive at the same time; But thank you for your work.
I know. Same with the Koncrete Podcast guy.
I'm confident that's intentional.
@@dynaminemining7883 yeah
Hes very smart & hard working not naive hes just young certainvthings can only be learned with age
But how honest & " Open to learn more " is awesome
Your integrity is one of the few of Clarity & conscience. Bravo!
Regards, Viet vet VFP
Man this interview had so much potential, feel like a lot of good questions weren't asked. We're talkign about fbi cyber security.
Thanks Lex for doing your part to help the FBI look credible right before they were exposed on twitter. I also loved your flaccid tweet about how it was "unfortunate" they got caught.
Yep. Groups on the left and the right want the FBI completely removed. It’s being used as a weapon against the people and for the powers that be.
Just learned lex is shill lol?
#FreeRossUlbricht
@@Sanctifires Yeah that's crazy, 279 likes for 274 dislikes (approximately obviously)
Lex= the coolest calmest guy ever to walk this planet as the world degrades around us, we watch in absolute wonder.
One of the huge qualities I love about your videos other than its content and quality: is the fact I can go to any part of the video due to the good job chaptering the videos.
"I call my wife 10 to 12 times a day when she's not around." Major co-dependency issues, dude.
yeah, huge red flag
I thought the same thing -- what a woosie
She’s probably hot & out of his league and he’s packing a 22 derringer. Just complex issues
Not the type of immature comment's I'd expect to see from a Lex video.
Right. So weird.
@Lex Fridman I would love it if you could interview Ross Ulbricht’ Mother she has actual facts and it would have been great if you asked him about the 2 cops who had control of the website, stole Bitcoin and went to jail there’s a lot he’s not saying
Yes a whole lot more to this case, I suspect they coaxed Ross into murder for higher....
I’m not Tarbells biggest fan but he had nothing to do with that. The whole Baltimore division was rogue and the other cops were DEA. Ross tried to have six people killed. And before you say it didn’t happen, true, but there’s this thing called attempted murder. Ulbricht is not a good person and he clearly didn’t even believe in his own principles when they interfered with him gaining power.
Amen to that brother ☮️
@@duanejackson6718 I don't believe it. Not even kinda. The FBI are a herd of Scum buckets.
@@duanejackson6718 the murder for hire plot was a figment of the FBIs imagination. And Lynn would be a phenomenal guest. Also FUCK tarbell I hope it's a cold day in hell when he arrives.
Chris Tarbell was thoroughly enjoyable and had me cracking up. Great Interview Lex! Signed, LateToTheParty. ❣️🍀
The number of times he says “I’m honest and transparent” makes it exceptionally clear this “former fbi agent” is not honest and transparent. Lex illuminating these glow boys
With every podcast you make the quality improves. Thank you for this, you are an inspiration Lex. best regards from Sweden.
You should join the FBI then
This is one of the best conversations I’ve heard in a while, thanks Lex.
Lex... Kathleen here...I want to say you are an excellent interviewer. I find your show very interesting. You obviously care deeply. All I recommend to watch our show are of the same opinion. Keep throwing in your efforts with Joe and Elon the world depends on your fresh efforts.
It's a good interview, despite my personal feelings on this case and this man. Thank you Lex ❤️
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Why don't you like him?
@@merc9nineby his own admission he looks at hundreds if not thousands of “kiddie p*rn” images aka he is a 50 year old man who looks at 12 year old girls taking nudes on a daily basis. I’m pretty sure there’s a word for that. Doesn’t it start with ped and end with ophile or something?? The only men who make my blood boil are the ones who feel entitled to secretly and “legally” steal children’s photos of themselves for their own pleasure.
“It makes my blood boil to see this pictures” yeah sure buddy it’s not like you’ve literally seen more child porn than 99.999% of human beings who have ever lived. UTTERLY DISGUSTING. There is far more to the story but I’m pretty sure enough said, this is a prime example of the human garbage that should be executed out of existence. No words express how disgusting it is for a child to learn that someone who looks like this has been staring at their 13 year old bodies because they feel entitled to do so AS IF THAT’S WHAT THE CHILD WANTS. He is perverted beyond measure. That’s the simple explanation
If you think it is okay for adults to look at hundreds of images and videos of child porn, then you have no right to think it is not okay for adults to look at child porn. If you don’t understand that, then congrats, you’re delusional enough to be brainwashed into the FBI and you can go steal children’s privacy and ogle their genitals. If anyone in America actually cared about getting rid of pedos, these guys would be bunking next to Larry Nassar. Just utterly disgusting that the government has this ability. If any human had this ability, the FBI would lock them up. IS THE PROBLEM OBVIOUS ENOUGH YET?
Along side that, this dude lies and exaggerates constantly as anyone with an IQ above 10 could tell you
That’s one basic reason why
You just Can't find a Good Reason to "Keep" several of our 3 letter agencies. Especially when you Compare the good reasons to the Bad reasons.
Whatever you read in your sensationalistic media, even if true and actually is bad, is not the ONLY thing they do.
@@micr0chel I know what they do. Bad Stuff. I'm 62. Saw Mom cry because her Brother crawled 2 miles tthrough the jungle After an ambush.
"Even if they have no idea, people just want to hear it to get even just an inkling of what's going on there"---spot on Lex.
Thanks Dale! This really helps with learning the marketplace!