*Do you agree with the judge's sentence?* CORRECTIONS: Ulbricht attended the University of Texas at Dallas, not Austin. He was born on March 27, not March 17. If you enjoyed this video, check out my latest video on how the world's greatest hacker manipulated everyone: ua-cam.com/video/aLUDhbQojxA/v-deo.html
Not agreed totally but let be real, he still wanted those people dead if authorities didn’t act who knows how much he would still order hits on people in future
You know who's winning in the war on drugs right? Drugs. If this kid gets life and all that other stuff for his crimes and not one member of the Sackler family spends a day in jail, it shows you how stupid and misguided our " justice " is in America. Here you have a family that has made billions of dollars creating and distributing a drug that destroys loves , is highly addictive and what do they get? Fines? Ha , that's all the cost of doing business. They lied to doctors, they paid off politicians , they are the biggest drug dealers in American history. So to answer your question, this sentence is a joke. Why not get the real criminals in America. Any buisness involved in the production, distribution or manufacturing of opjod based drugs. Throw the boook at all of them. We are losing an entire generation of good young people to this drug
The IRS agent is more seasoned at searching things in the Internet and connect the dots lol It's a smart move considering how he searched the traces of it before any media coverage Kinda like those skill that we use to find that old forgotten meme that we used to laugh at 😂😂
It's crazy to think that former government employees can get like 6 years in prison for stealing literally from the government, and people who sell crack, even small can get life.
@@burningfarts as far as I'm concerned, he should've been in jail for like a month based on what he was actually selling. The dude created a website where people got together and sold illegal shit to each other, doesn't really sound like his problem. I suppose the US idiots hardly ever prosecuted real drug and weapon dealers as much as this poor guy. And yeah, Silk Road is gone, yet the percentage of drug addicts and school shootings is going up, whoops, seems like they did something wrong.
@@MrMartin48705 It's going up coz it's addictive. A person who has done it once has a hard time to stop. The inflow of new 'doers', however, increases due to teenagers like me. But yea it's not like it really fixes much. Anyone can just make a new website ans start the whole thing over again. And there's a lot more messed up shit on the dark web than magic mushrooms and LSD. However, i don't get why people do stuff like LSD, coke, shrooms, heroin, etc. It's expensive as shit and i personally prefer just drinking with friends, sometimes. I mean the cig tasted kinda shitty. Won't do that again. 10 cents isn't worth that cig smh.
What is sad is drug dealers spend more time in prison for selling to adults who choose to buy this crap then a pedophile, who forces himself upon a child and destroys his or her identity and worth. It literally makes me sick
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i actually thought his plea to the judge to be released in old age was really beautifully written. edit: i see so many people arguing in the responses to my comment that he deserves to rot in jail. my comment wasn't pro or con on that. i was just admiring the aesthetics of his poetry.
Also i don't get why they couldn't leave him atleast a few years of freedom before he dies. Like if he gets cancer or gets sick. I guess the American prison system doesn't do rehabilitation, just punishes people.
@Petya absolutely I agree i cannot believe that they didn't let this kid live again one day what a complete joke. The government commits more evil every single day than this kid who made a huge mistake but didn't directly sell anybody drugs he just gave drug users a better and safer way to get the stuff they ALREADY get....
To everyone wondering why he got such a harsh sentence, there are three reasons. 1. The judge said she wanted to make an example out of him as a deterrent against others 2. The murder-for-hire charges were dropped, but judges can and in this case did, consider uncharged allegations in your sentence as aggravating factors 3. He was offered a plea deal, but turned it down and took his chances at trial (The feds have a 95% or higher conviction rate). If you do that, they always throw the book at you and pursue the maximum possible sentence. I’m not justifying it, just explaining the reasons.
Yes, that is why sentence hearings are separated from trials. You CANNOT mention previous crimes or uncharged offenses in front of a jury, but the prosecution can bring it up for sentencing to the judge after found guilty.
This just fuels my disgust for the "Justice" system even more. Like many have stated before me, murderers get shorter terms, the government themselves smuggled in cocaine in the 80's, but God forbid that an individual does the same and Uncle Sam doesn't get a cut of the profits. The biggest prison sentence he obtain was the financial one, speaks volumes.
Life without parole. That’s much longer then most drug dealers. Plus without the murders, violence that comes with being a major drug dealer. They wanted to make an example of him.
He was already giving orders to have former employees murdered. He wasn’t at all above using violence and brutality, just afraid of getting involved himself. A privileged kid thinking of himself as better than other drug dealers and above consequences, exactly as the judge said.
@@seeno1 lmao, so because he wasn’t technically charged, the on-record messages from him clearly ordering his former employees’ deaths don’t count when evaluating his character ourselves? So the trial is a miscarriage of justice when it ends with a stronger conviction than you’d like, but is simultaneously the final word in the matter of him ordering assassinations like a cartel or mafia don?
@@sabiro2315 oh 👏. That's a wrap, slam dunk point bruh. I feel for the guy kind of. He fucked up. But how could someone so smart with a physics degree do something so dumb. Suburban kids are book smart not life smart. Personally I'd like to see him free In a decade. On a very long parole. Make him work for the fbi like Leo Di caprios Frank abignale junior in catch me if you can. The government needed to make an example of him . But yeh he acted like mafia and didn't even catch those charges. He ordered the death of other people like a game without consequences. That means he has an evil 😈 spot in his heart.
@@teleman07 im pretty sure the drugs they buy while investigating is kept as evidence or discarded. i dont think the operator can get a hand on it and keep it to themselves
@@cherrycotapie True. There is this joke about this whole process: One day the dea agent apprehends 10kg of drugs and goes to his boss: Agent- Sir we have caught 9kgs of drugs with the sting operation. Boss -Very good. Nice job on catching 8kg of drugs. Boss goes to his director. Boss- Sir we have caught 7kg of drugs in our operation. Director- Amazing job on catching 6kg of drugs. Director brings the drugs to elimination and recycle center. Director- Here is the 5kg of drugs we caught in the operation. Center chief- Good job director. We will destroy this 4kg of drugs pronto. Chief brings the drugs to operator of incinerator kiln. Chief- Destroy this 3kg of drugs that are caught by DEA. Operator- Sure boss I will destroy this 2kg of drugs now. Operator incinerates 1kg of drugs...
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I love hearing great life changing stories like this. I want to become a mycologist because honestly mushrooms are the best form of medicine (most especially the psychedelic ones) There are so many people today used magic mushrooms to ween off of SSRI medication- its amazing! Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death buddy, lets be honest here.
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Thanks for sharing your story. That's rough I sympathize. Save your health save your mind. Life is better without heroin, cocaine, alcohol and cigarettes. And you have more money in your pocket. God bless everyone who has rejected the devils intentions to be addicted to alcohol and cigarettes etc which can cause so much damage to health. I will pray for you all.
I chatted with Ross a few times, due to a support ticket I submitted early on during TSR’s run. I only knew him as The Dread Pirate Roberts at that time of course. I’ve been clean now for 7 years, but I was addicted to oxycodone for 6 years, and got scammed by a vendor called, “New York Fuego” on an order for 20 x 30mg oxycodone pills for $400, which he never shipped. He was super nice and helpful. He resolved my issue and refunded my $400 in less than 24 hours and then banned the vendor who scammed me.
@@bigjunior2172 All users who used The Silk Road the first year or so after it opened and submitted a support ticket got either him or 1 other support person. Ross had to manually approve all refunds until later on in TSR’s life. He didn’t have a real support staff until the latter half of 2012 and it opened in 2011. There are literally hundreds, if not, thousands of others who chatted with him because of support tickets as well. I wasn’t saying it was some rare thing that only I experienced. I don’t know why you’d think i’d lie about something so random and stupid for no reason. I’m not a “kiddo” either. I was like 25 at that time.
@@snoop3539 Either younger or immature troll haha. I just thought it was an interesting little story that I know hundreds/thousands of others probably experienced too. It sucks that he’s being a tool, because we have similar tastes in comedy, based on his subscriptions.
Nobody was killed at all he was scammed into paying someone to kill 5 people but they were never killed. Regardless if you pay someone to kill a person you should be more guilty then the person that did it the only reason they are dead is because you wanted it done.
@@Somniator7 The Judge obeys the regulations set by big pharma and other lobbied interests. It was not an act of justice, it was an act of fear that the internet could undermine the government's wealth. It's why the big banks got their fingerprints all over crypto, and why the internet is under attack. They gave him life + 40 years as a warning to anybody else wanting to do something similar.
@@Somniator7 I didn't say they were 'mutually exclusive', I'm saying they're not really related at all. There is nothing inherently moral about stasis, nor anything inherently immoral about change.
Was randomly recommended this video. First thing I though was, "60 Minutes", wasn't too far off. Although I'm American, so maybe that's why 60 min came to mind.
@@lubu9209 because of i am turkish guy i accidentally confused minute and second each other, and i thought that this video lasts for 60 seconds but soon i figure it out that it is not 60 seconds
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For him to be sentenced that long vs those convicted within pharmaceutical to still be walking free, rich from the suffering of many (including my grandmother) is insane. Sigh.
Excellent point. The Sackler family flooded America with oxycontin, resulting in thousands of overdose deaths, but they are billionaires who won't spend any time in prison.
The Judge had an interesting perspective in her findings. Murderers, and Rapists don’t get life, so I personally don’t agree, but I hadn’t considered comparing him to a real life drug dealer. If the Manson girls can get out, surely this guy can, especially as our culture moves towards treating addiction as the mental illness, & health problem that it truly is. He’s fortunate to have so many supporters.
It's hard to argue that anyone is ment to spend the intier life's in prison but if anyone is I would say someone who put hits out on pepoles life's and trafficed litteral tons of meth and harion would be one of them
Although I agree life in prison is a harsh sentence, I get it, as this sentence sets a precedent, a warning for people looking at ventures of this type. But in regards to what you said about addiction, what was Ulbricht addicted to? Money? Control of his "empire" ? That's a bit ironic in light of libertarianism, I think. There may be many ways of fighting for libertarian causes, but I don't believe that libertarianism was his major goal.
Yeah, murder and rape is WAY way worse than drug related crimes, and murder and rape absolutely should get life in prison since they’re horrible crimes I agree that he has a chance to get out
You can r*pe all the girls you want but you cannot r*pe the government LOL. serious tho, if they hadn't stopped him early he has the potential to be a cold killing kingpin.
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@@rogoznicafc9672 Standard issue big husky dude in armor.. ground, and "suspect" was the "high speed impact" filling between them was what I heard. Wired, I think it was.
lmao i wonder what this video must’ve felt to you, old timer. some technological mumbo jumbo? what will i think of the current technology when i reached 63 years old. long way to go
@@damienocallaghan2648 Researching, writing and summarizing the story is what he meant, that is a very large task. Posting it into text to speech software is something completely different. But as someone that had worked with text to speech on a professional level, it was done very well because you have to tweak it so that the pauses and transitions are coherent and not some unnatural sounding.
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I remember reading this news earlier.. one of the jury members, (a woman of a mother whose son committed suicide because of drug addiction) was hell bent on punishing this guy for life, while the other jury members wanted it to be like 10-20 years something and not life sentence.. so basically it was a wrong selection of Jury.. she took her personal revenge
Drug additions are the same ones who rob and steal from people when they need money to buy, they can even kill and injure people went they get high or drive on the street. Drugs should be banned completely, especially there'r so many saddies and edgy young people in this world.
They tried to make an example out of him with that sentence. But boy oh boy that back fired. There were so many marketplaces once the silk road when down. It was like roger starting a pirate era
I graduated and started college in 2011. The Silk Road was well known and used amongst friends and fraternities. It literally was the Amazon of Drugs. Those were crazy times.
@MubashirullahD Uhh, party drugs are used in colleges to party, not to escape the horrors of college life. Sounds like you're using for all the wrong reasons. Stay safe.
The most interesting thing for me is that he allegedly ordered multiple murders for hire. It says a lot about how it all snowballed for him. From a free marketplace to getting to this dark place of being a world #1 drug lord that "does what he has to do" like murder for hire. I think he never intended to do that kind of things when he first started the project.
The used that to get the searches then immediately dropped the charges for the murder for hire. Seems they didnt have anything to back up the claims and that was never added to the trial. Also doesnt even get into the claims he made that he wasn't the only person who had access to the account.
Most of these freedumb types are privileged white boys who wants rules for others but not for themselves. It's an ego thing first so they're mostly sociopaths.
@@tobi9838People will always find a way to get drugs, the only thing the government can do is educate people and make sure no one is buying laced stuff to reduce deaths.
Drinking is good for the goverment. Alcohol is a legal drug. Here in Russia, 100 ml small bottle of legal vodka is only 1 USD at current exchange rate.
It was reconciling his identity ... you know, not having been a bronx poc who dealt crack. His biggest crime the judge said, was in having been a _privileged_ [white male]. See..? Her new private practice is filled with ALL the DEI, equity, inclusivity BS.
Maximilian Schmidt did something similar and only got 7 years and served only half of it. (He only sold $3.8M though, quite a small empire compared to $200M)
@MrTsiolkovsky Dont do that. Dual party system just works to divide the United States. The founding fathers said it themselves. Lets just be honest and say for white people in high profile cases it hardly exists at all.
American Kingpin is the book about Ross Ulbricht, it is truly one of the best true story books I've ever read. I could not put it down. This video was very well made and covered a lot of information in 22 mins.
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I’m surprised the crocked cops only got 6 years. There should be even harsher punishment for those in law enforcement seeing as their job is to uphold the law. 🙄
yeah but what they did is mostly warrented to minor charges. there are thousands of people who do money laundering and get less than 4 years and obstruction of justice is a minor crime. as long as he didn't have intent to distribute narcotics etc, he wouldn't get as harsh of punishment. of course law enforcement know this so they aren't stupid enough to have intent to distribute etc. but they will money launder extort or obstruct justice as they know it will be minor charges.
@@oissukki obstruction of justice is a major crime but the charges are minor for what it's for. They didn't prevent them from investigating they just took a bribe and didn't really their findings. It's just how the obstruction of justice is committed that it's a minor offense. Also
His arrest happened when I used to work with his sister in Sydney Australia. I remember her being completely stressed out constantly, I thought it was just her nature but clearly not. Side note - cally when not stressed out was such a legend and a really good person. Funnily enough she had never touched drugs.
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Crazy how he went though all these loopholes, just to leave something as simple as a username and email public. If he didn't do that, would he have ever been caught?
@@JaewonJung I hate to bring hindsight into this because it's too late now, but had he been a bit more thorough, keeping all of that stuff private and unlinked to anything besides just a sign up, he may have skirted by this whole thing. Honestly, we don't know, and we'll never know because all of this already happened and we don't have a Doctor Strange to look into other timelines for us. Nevertheless, GREAT video!
When an individual makes millions tax free, they will always be caught. It's all about money and not so much about the crime. This is why alcohol is still legal and marijuana is going to be. They realized how much money and power they can get over the masses. Religion no longer works. It still makes tons of money but with the internet people can find out the truth now. When drugs and alcohol stop working they will strong arm us. Taking all the guns away and having us rely on them for safety vs being able to individually protect ourselves. Its already starting with all of these mass shootings they like to keep reporting to us. They are advocating for gun control. Meanwhile, our military has murdered millions and continues to do so UNCHECKED.
If he actually ordered the hit on five people then he deserves life in prison. If he allowed hits to be ordered on the site then he deserves life in prison. If he just facilitated drugs to be bought and sold on the site then life in prison is cruel. Thirty years would have been more appropriate. People who have killed get less than life.
As someone who has had to work with addicts who literally with as much help and support provided; can't get clean; it's devastating to see their life in front of your eyes; it's hard to explain just how much pain you can see in them. I'm an advocate for imprisoning anyone who would supply materials that can destroy a persons life.
@@oneplumpboi5317 I agree with governments taking a very hard line on drugs. Even on dope. I guess this guy was just an amoral scumbag. I have zero trust in the FBI these days though so I wouldn't put it past them to fabricate the five hit's he put on people. But then again maybe he did.
@@oneplumpboi5317 guns and alcohol do that too. But we don't imprison the sellers of those because they are legal. If they were looking drugs they are going to get drugs somehow. I get what you're saying but it's a bad argument.
Such an excessive punishment. The fact that it was more than what the prosecution even asked for makes me think that the Feds talked to the judge beforehand or something.
I watched another video a massive british drug dealer smuggling cocaine and making millions he online got a sentence of 8 years in an Asian country its mad how he got life 😳
@@crazytanks2001 that's actually kind of surprising. I've heard that asian countries are actually pretty death penalty happy when it comes to drug dealing.
Meh. He was a pioneer and will be remembered as such. He showed what is possible. Similar to PirateBay, there will always be a Silk Road in some form or another.
Yes, the dark web is still working same as torrent sites, they quit 1 site and put to prison one guy, is all a story for the average stupid citizen who believes the government fixed the drug commerce, but hey, you can still buy guns from regular stores and kill people in elementary schools.
@@SuperOCHomes Very posible now that I think about it some more. I am tired of white collar crimes not being prosecuted the same way. But that still dosn't mean there is not something fishy here.
@@Tupacnas I'll look it up thanks, it just irks me that a channel pops up out of nowhere and somehow people trust it. Specially with these bot comments.
I've gone through the deep and dark web a few times. This is nothing compared to finding a stream, with thousands of viewers, as a living cat is tortured to death being drug on the road by a truck.. He was just making alot of money and governments weren't cut in, but the thousands of really really messed up people are still thriving.
@froglifes6829 look it up. They were arrested in Orlando, Florida near Waterford Lakes on East Colonial Drive close to a decade ago after a tire shop owner saw them trying to catch a cat on his property.
@@ankitbhasi7794 It's only a crime if you don't pay the government. Pay their share and they'll let you smuggle coke in, like they did in the 80s. Now get off your high horse bozo
According to Nick Bilton’s book he didn’t stop selling guns because of the controversy but because they were impossible to send in the mail without getting caught.
by controversy I think she meant more that it was a lot more complicated and attracted attention, rather than it being morally wrong. as a hardcore libreterian he was probably very pro-gun
@xan kon what's funny is that he became so consumed by it that he oh so easily got played by extortionists, we know of two (the one explained here and another murder for hire case covered by barely sociable) and who's to say there aren't many more considering how blinded he was by his own view of the "greater good" by the end of his career.
I thought they had a dead-drop system for local sales? But yeah I guess he wanted to try and mitigate what he thought would be government surveillance?
@@farhanatashiga3721 Read your own comment back, but substitute every use of the word "he/his" with "The CIA / their", and you have a much more accurate statement.
A friend told me, during the Silk Road era, he could finally relax about his drug habit since the negative pressure to go to his street dealer was off his shoulders, when he placed his orders online. He was guaranteed quality products with online vendors whom he'd made "friends" with. Then somehow, the ease of which he could buy, turned off his switch of *need* to a *disdain* towards drugs. It was "too much of a good thing". He cold turkey-ed his habit realizing he was motivated to *use* through the process of enabling anxiety to get to his dealer, thus realising he had been addicted to the excitement of "the buy". He got out of it in the end all thanks to SR.
To add to this and think about the violence that people nowadays go through to get drugs than they did back when silkroad was available is crazy I’m not justifying it, just a thought
They were definitely making an example out of him, to prevent any socially inept nerds from attempting to become anon drug dealers. Of course, our guy was already ordering executions and stuff so i don’t really feel bad for him.
@myles dean as he described, one should have choice on what they put in their body, the fact that you think his sentence is deserved is outrageous. i'm not saying the guy is a saint but children wouldn't even have access to the dark web, that's a terrible take.
@myles whitley Plenty? Idk what you mean by plenty but to setup a wallet in 2011 to even hold bitcoin was hard and complicated let alone figuring out how to buy bitcoin. Just say you're anti drugs and move on.
She missed out a lot of details about Ulbrich getting scammed 7000 Bitcoin by a single guy acting as multiple people on the site. The story links into the kill for hire that he didn't end up getting charged for, it is an insane story. Anyone interested the video is called ''The Dark Side of Silk Road''.
You know it’s amazing what people like this dude could do if he put his work towards something that could benefit humanity! The human mind and ambition are amazing things
he went up against the feds, mad respect. most people would take a plea. you don't go against the feds.....they make it horrible sentences if you go to trial. they don't like work.
I had read that the plea deal wasn't all that great. 10 years to life instead of multiple life sentences. He would've stood a better chance of being released, but still could well have served the majority of his life in prison.
Great video! I hadn’t heard of what happened to him. I think that sentence was such crap. Think of the damage caused by the banks done in 2008 - what sentences did the criminals involved in those crimes serve?
Their punishment was 0bama giving them $30 trillion to keep on going and doing what they were doing, also remember citygroup bank picked 0bamas cabinet as 0bama was just a puppet for the elites.
@@snoop3539 One of the people buying drugs from SR died... stop acting like he was just "hosting a web site". Wiki said his ordering hits was considered in his sentence.
@@networth00 that logic is beyond me. Did he force people to buy drugs? Many more people gets killed while meeting with a dealer than dying from drug or overdosing.
the prison sentencing kind of rubs me the wrong way. i've seen rapists, pedos, murderers, & shooters get less than 5-10 years, then a drug crime like this gets double life? the criminal system is so backwards
@@Exxperiment626how many apartment building owners in the Bronx are getting life sentences for providing parking lots where drug deals go down? This guy wasn’t dealing the drugs, he simply created the space. Additionally, how many drug dealers from the Bronx are serving multiple life sentences for dealing?
@@jn-gmail3140 That is the dumbest argument. Apartment building owners in the Bronx aren't building parking lots for the purpose of selling drugs, IT'S SO NORMAL PEOPLE CAN PARK THEIR CARS. This is incomparable to this guy who created the website for the sole purpose of selling drugs anonously online. Not only was he doing it for the money, he was doing it to get glory as well, hoping to get famous and even successors. The guy was also willing to pay thousands to kill people so he could cover his ass. What he's done is way worse then a drug dealer in Bronx as he allowed tens of thousands of drug dealers to do the same on his website.
Ross and I were incarcerated for an eight-month period in 2013 shortly after his arrest. During our many conversations I always thought, could this be the guy that put a hit out? Is this guy capable of murder? The answer to that question is a firm no. That was an attempt by the federal government to discredit his appeal, which was vast. They put the story out but failed to charge him. That was purely intentional. They knew it would always stand as an addendum to his story. Don't let it.
I hear it's one of many US authorities' strategies for getting people to admit to something they haven't committed, or making their case look worse for the purpose of sentencing someone, or achieving a longer than the called for sentence. I don't what kind of a person this guy is but life is too much, murderers, rapists, pedophiles and much more dangerous criminals are getting away with much less and carry on writing books and interviewing about their "deeds", the US is really messed up in so many ways
I think he's learned one lesson or two behind bars, I read his essays, they are wonderful. This judgement was way too harsh, El Chapo got less than that, which speaks more than a thousand words. To the creator: Great video! I loved this one.
Exactly, they made a meal out of him in order to scare others into either not doing the same, or giving up people who are. It's pathetic, the government's all over the world are the biggest corrupt organizations and handlers of illegal activity than any other. Their only issue is the fact they could not think of these ideas first to make profit. And that people like Ulbricht don't work for them.
Yup, youre right. Like i already commented: "So many and so long sentences were made to be an example for anyone in the future who tries such things because there i no logical way his sentences were that much longer than the corrupt officers."
El Chapo also received a life sentence. I don’t think Ulbricht is capable of learning the lessons he needs. Instead of writing essays, he should be reading Locke, Mill, and other writers who are the foundation of modern liberal society.
The judgement was too harsh for a guy who demanded tortures and murders be carried out on his behalf? Remind your parents why they hate their stupid child.
The fact that this drug empire had two formal officials, who were placed to actually expose the drug empire, become apart of it in a way is kinda crazy how much money can make people move. And Ross had his life ahead of him but only saw the light instead of the tunnel he had to walk through. That light blinded him
lol Look again at his charges compared to the dirty cops...$213 million USD of illegal drugs sold on his site. And if you watch Barley Sociable's YT video "The Dark Side Of The Silk Road", you'll see the message trail Ross left where he pays $150K x 2 to a Canadian Hells Angel to "hit" a couple of people and requests picture proof. Yeah, he and the cops all got what they deserve.
I am just now seeing this and I thought this was very well made. I know this definitely took tons of research but you made it super interesting. Great job!
Yeah, all that research. With such FACTUAL points like "The Netherlands which is a NOTORIOUS place for drugs." You know, nothing but top tier fair and OBJECTIVE reporting. LMFAO you snowflakes are a such a joke! Welcome to Normie-ville, population everyone who thinks this video is "well made."
I bought a few things from silk road several years ago (specifically LSD, Xanax, and Oxycontin). I enjoyed the amazon-esque format, the rating system made it easier to find trustworthy dealers who were less likely to cut your product with other crap than some random thug you met on the street, and you could also purchase drug testing kits and the like if you wanted to be certain. It was a very civil and safe way for people to buy drugs that was distinctly preferable to dealing with gangsters directly. So much money and energy is wasted on the misguided war on drugs. Nothing is resolved by targeting online marketplaces like this, It only makes things more dangerous for the people involved. "What you did in connection with silk road was terribly destructive to our social fabric." Indeed. Fuck that judge, completely out of touch. The only thing Ulbricht did wrong was conspiring to murder people, which ironically he wasn't charged for.
The war on drugs is, in my opinion, the most delusional, misguided and downright cruel (mostly) global policy the modern world has ever known. What a waste of life, money, time, resources whilst alcohol, one of the most destructive drugs there is remains totally fine.
Yeah the war on drugs is what keeps the criminal justice system up and running. They won't lose their authority if drugs became legal but they (judges, and law enforcement in general) want to exercise their authority in controlling our lives and limit our experiences. I agree that judge was out of touch and snarky to say the least.
Yeah, all that research. With such FACTUAL points like "The Netherlands which is a NOTORIOUS place for drugs." You know, nothing but top tier fair and OBJECTIVE reporting. LMFAO you snowflakes are a such a joke! Welcome to Normie-ville, population everyone who thinks this video is "well made."
Wow, it was a great video. The story is out of this world, and the way you narrated and told, it felt like it came straight out of a movie. This video is another proof of your great talent of storytelling. Great job, and I wish for your channel to grow into millions one day.
These types of things need to be get in, make your tens or hundreds of millions and get out! Get your money and either pass the site on or shut it down.
I was hesitant at first to watch this clip, but I'm very glad I did because the story itself was fascinating and the production of it was superb. That aside, I cringed at the "life sentence" he got because I was expecting 30 to 40 years, max.
I just recently read about somebody, that openly raped an 11-year old child at broad daylight and got 1 year of probation and now I see this. I'm at a lack of words.
Bro he killed probably hundreds of people with drugs, and probably fucked up families. This is the biggest and one of the earliest drug selling websites on the internet. How many teenagers do you think got high from him? How many lives has he fucked up? That was the least that needed to have happened to him. Doing drugs takes countless years of life you can never have back. The man spread death.
Just about everything. Crypto is the same too 😂. Some of these CEO’s buying mansions as their projects tank and investors lose everything. Reminds me of wall street.
can't help but feel that the big importers wanted to make sure nobody would think about cutting them out from the chain and thus the life X2 sentence. let's be real, the sales and the profit are *Nothing* when it comes to the global drug trafficking, but the potential to severely disrupt the local distribution part of the business was too dangerous for the established industry... thanks for the upload
Great work! This all aligns with the book "American Kingpin" by Bilton and everything else I've read! It's actually nice to see a thread where people are interested in the story and not just saying the Ulbrich is magically innocent.
he's magically innocent. it's all but the gov who made him kill people. he was just getting his damn commissions and didn't even sell them drugs and guns himself.
Mann that judge is cruel and most of been having a bad day when she sentenced him. I've seen murders, actual drug dealers, rapists get lighter sentences
Once the FBI tagged Ross with the “Kingpin” charge, he was doomed. The crazy thing about Ross… is that he never really spent any of his money… or seemed to have much interest in doing so.
No, once Ross refused the plea deal he basically asked for a severe sentence. He thought he was the smartest guy in the room (old line about the idiots at Enron). Don’t mess with the government. They will make an example out of you. Once they got his open laptop it was over.
He didn't need to spend the money to fuel his delusions of grandeur. It was enough to have access to the funds in the bank. And just because he wasn't a very material person doesn't mean he didn't use it for various other things such as purchasing false identities or to hire hitmen to kill his enemies.
So the drug dealer gets two life sentences plus some 30 odd years in prison but the two governmental employees who are supposed to be above that kind of thing and who swore an oath to uphold the law only get 6 years. What a wonderful court system we have.
Excellent video, well researched and all good info, no filler. Thank you. On a side note... 6.5 and 8 years for the corrupt agents in comparison to being warehoused until your death is absolutely ridiculous imo.
No, when they say "there are no rules" what they're really saying is, "I'm too naive to realize that the only rules are the arbitrary ones that the government makes so they can take your money".
Reminds me of an old Laurel & Hardy movie where they land on an island and make their own country without any rules, then you see a woman wiping children's mouths on the flag, then Laurel & Hardy get overthrown and sentenced to die for a reason I don't remember, then they survive because the island gets flooded and everyone leaves.
no shit! what has the gov done?? yeah, exactly! made their own fncking rules I suggest u never think about anything in your life ever again. just be the good boy that u r, take your share, pay your taxes, visit the church, keep your useless trash can of a mouth shut all the fncking time and do not commit thought crime
I can think of a million people - stalkers, people who have threatened me in person, and the countless rapists that go free - that should all get a fraction of the sentence he got. Ross should be in jail but for a much shorter period of time.
@@saturnna467 it's the person's decision to do drugs. If they die from that drug it's on them. Unless they received something unknowingly there's nobody else to blame and its extremely unlikely their first stop to get said drugs was from an dark web site meaning they're getting them one way or another. If anything Ross provided a safer more secure affordable and trustworthy way to recieve what people were going to get anyway. Hes on the hook for the attempted murders but I dont see how it's his doing people were selling drugs on his site. If I offer a place where people can buy and sell anything they want and they decide to sell drugs that's on them. Also, all that BITCOIN he had which had to be in the hundreds of thousands back then would be worth billions today, I wonder where all that went??? How is THAT any different than what any criminal organization does?
Agreed, I'm norwegian and here 21 years is the maximum sentence you can give initially. When you focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment, people can and will change. Also, to me it doesn't really make sense to give long sentences for non-violent crimes.
*Do you agree with the judge's sentence?*
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Not agreed totally but let be real, he still wanted those people dead if authorities didn’t act who knows how much he would still order hits on people in future
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!
FREE ROSS
No :( But the policemen should. Such a disgrace.
You know who's winning in the war on drugs right? Drugs. If this kid gets life and all that other stuff for his crimes and not one member of the Sackler family spends a day in jail, it shows you how stupid and misguided our " justice " is in America. Here you have a family that has made billions of dollars creating and distributing a drug that destroys loves , is highly addictive and what do they get? Fines? Ha , that's all the cost of doing business. They lied to doctors, they paid off politicians , they are the biggest drug dealers in American history. So to answer your question, this sentence is a joke. Why not get the real criminals in America. Any buisness involved in the production, distribution or manufacturing of opjod based drugs. Throw the boook at all of them. We are losing an entire generation of good young people to this drug
@@trtrhr fuck the law the american law is stupid
So basically after years of dea and fbi investigations an irs agent found him by googling him. I feel like that should be a major moral to the story.
I laughed so hard at that part
The IRS agent is more seasoned at searching things in the Internet and connect the dots lol
It's a smart move considering how he searched the traces of it before any media coverage
Kinda like those skill that we use to find that old forgotten meme that we used to laugh at 😂😂
The definition of Occam's Razor, lol
definitely going to pay my taxes
thought google might have sell him out lol
It's crazy to think that former government employees can get like 6 years in prison for stealing literally from the government, and people who sell crack, even small can get life.
It's also crazy that the Judge calls Him out for being a drug dealer, when big pharma literally pays off the gov't to do the same thing.
@@burningfarts as far as I'm concerned, he should've been in jail for like a month based on what he was actually selling. The dude created a website where people got together and sold illegal shit to each other, doesn't really sound like his problem. I suppose the US idiots hardly ever prosecuted real drug and weapon dealers as much as this poor guy.
And yeah, Silk Road is gone, yet the percentage of drug addicts and school shootings is going up, whoops, seems like they did something wrong.
@@MrMartin48705 It's going up coz it's addictive. A person who has done it once has a hard time to stop. The inflow of new 'doers', however, increases due to teenagers like me.
But yea it's not like it really fixes much. Anyone can just make a new website ans start the whole thing over again. And there's a lot more messed up shit on the dark web than magic mushrooms and LSD. However, i don't get why people do stuff like LSD, coke, shrooms, heroin, etc. It's expensive as shit and i personally prefer just drinking with friends, sometimes. I mean the cig tasted kinda shitty. Won't do that again. 10 cents isn't worth that cig smh.
It's called Double Standards.
Think about how much that crack affects to bunch of end users' life which might leads to their life corruption. That's why it is treated in that way.
What is sad is drug dealers spend more time in prison for selling to adults who choose to buy this crap then a pedophile, who forces himself upon a child and destroys his or her identity and worth. It literally makes me sick
Maybe there's a reason for that.. you would not arrest people of the same as you 🥸
really? 😮
Could not agree more
@@dolaaalu realize the “you” u are referring to is actually YOU right?
because drug lords are stealing the business from the gvt, cia...
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That judgement was too harsh. Even murderers get out of prison quickly and giving interviews on how they commited that murder.
But he is, at least in attempt, a murderer as well.
Agreed, and now stores can sell drugs, some countries even allow coke but in a very small amount
He put out hits on multiple people lol
@@casmcphee5809 What stores sell drugs 🤣 Never heard of that in my entire life
@@keyboardcommando7000 they dont have weed stores in america?
i actually thought his plea to the judge to be released in old age was really beautifully written.
edit: i see so many people arguing in the responses to my comment that he deserves to rot in jail. my comment wasn't pro or con on that. i was just admiring the aesthetics of his poetry.
Also i don't get why they couldn't leave him atleast a few years of freedom before he dies. Like if he gets cancer or gets sick. I guess the American prison system doesn't do rehabilitation, just punishes people.
@@FinnishNationalist123 you would be absolutely right
@Petya absolutely I agree i cannot believe that they didn't let this kid live again one day what a complete joke. The government commits more evil every single day than this kid who made a huge mistake but didn't directly sell anybody drugs he just gave drug users a better and safer way to get the stuff they ALREADY get....
You wouldn’t say that if he was black
Why? because he is white? The judge was dealing with exactly this type of privilege.
To everyone wondering why he got such a harsh sentence, there are three reasons. 1. The judge said she wanted to make an example out of him as a deterrent against others 2. The murder-for-hire charges were dropped, but judges can and in this case did, consider uncharged allegations in your sentence as aggravating factors 3. He was offered a plea deal, but turned it down and took his chances at trial (The feds have a 95% or higher conviction rate). If you do that, they always throw the book at you and pursue the maximum possible sentence. I’m not justifying it, just explaining the reasons.
Yup and you couldnt have summarized any better.
What was the plea deal?
@@Rishi2015 I forget exactly. It would have been hard time, but nothing compared to what he got.
Yes, that is why sentence hearings are separated from trials. You CANNOT mention previous crimes or uncharged offenses in front of a jury, but the prosecution can bring it up for sentencing to the judge after found guilty.
10 years 😳
This just fuels my disgust for the "Justice" system even more.
Like many have stated before me, murderers get shorter terms, the government themselves smuggled in cocaine in the 80's, but God forbid that an individual does the same and Uncle Sam doesn't get a cut of the profits. The biggest prison sentence he obtain was the financial one, speaks volumes.
and to top it off the sentences on those corrupt government agents were 6 years...
He put 5 hits out.
@@samjohannes9969 there were no charges for that.
@@zirkereuler5242 does that change the fact that he intended to have people murdered?
@@samjohannes9969 That is liberal hogwash.
Life without parole. That’s much longer then most drug dealers. Plus without the murders, violence that comes with being a major drug dealer. They wanted to make an example of him.
He was already giving orders to have former employees murdered. He wasn’t at all above using violence and brutality, just afraid of getting involved himself. A privileged kid thinking of himself as better than other drug dealers and above consequences, exactly as the judge said.
@@sabiro2315 Negative. He wasn’t charged nor found guilt of conspiracy to commit murder. Can only be sentenced on charges he was found guilty of.
@@seeno1 lmao, so because he wasn’t technically charged, the on-record messages from him clearly ordering his former employees’ deaths don’t count when evaluating his character ourselves? So the trial is a miscarriage of justice when it ends with a stronger conviction than you’d like, but is simultaneously the final word in the matter of him ordering assassinations like a cartel or mafia don?
@@sabiro2315 oh 👏. That's a wrap, slam dunk point bruh. I feel for the guy kind of. He fucked up. But how could someone so smart with a physics degree do something so dumb. Suburban kids are book smart not life smart.
Personally I'd like to see him free In a decade. On a very long parole. Make him work for the fbi like Leo Di caprios Frank abignale junior in catch me if you can.
The government needed to make an example of him .
But yeh he acted like mafia and didn't even catch those charges. He ordered the death of other people like a game without consequences. That means he has an evil 😈 spot in his heart.
Most drug dealers can't even dream of the damage this kid did.
What did we learn from this? Be an FBI agent when you commit crimes because you can avoid a shit ton of jail time.
i dont think they actually use the drugs
@@cherrycotapie Using drugs is not a crime anyway. Unless you sell.
@@teleman07 im pretty sure the drugs they buy while investigating is kept as evidence or discarded. i dont think the operator can get a hand on it and keep it to themselves
@@cherrycotapie True. There is this joke about this whole process:
One day the dea agent apprehends 10kg of drugs and goes to his boss:
Agent- Sir we have caught 9kgs of drugs with the sting operation.
Boss -Very good. Nice job on catching 8kg of drugs.
Boss goes to his director.
Boss- Sir we have caught 7kg of drugs in our operation.
Director- Amazing job on catching 6kg of drugs.
Director brings the drugs to elimination and recycle center.
Director- Here is the 5kg of drugs we caught in the operation.
Center chief- Good job director. We will destroy this 4kg of drugs pronto.
Chief brings the drugs to operator of incinerator kiln.
Chief- Destroy this 3kg of drugs that are caught by DEA.
Operator- Sure boss I will destroy this 2kg of drugs now.
Operator incinerates 1kg of drugs...
@@teleman07 haha 😆
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Where do I reach this dude? If possible can I find him on Google
I chatted with Ross a few times, due to a support ticket I submitted early on during TSR’s run. I only knew him as The Dread Pirate Roberts at that time of course. I’ve been clean now for 7 years, but I was addicted to oxycodone for 6 years, and got scammed by a vendor called, “New York Fuego” on an order for 20 x 30mg oxycodone pills for $400, which he never shipped. He was super nice and helpful. He resolved my issue and refunded my $400 in less than 24 hours and then banned the vendor who scammed me.
@@bigjunior2172 All users who used The Silk Road the first year or so after it opened and submitted a support ticket got either him or 1 other support person. Ross had to manually approve all refunds until later on in TSR’s life. He didn’t have a real support staff until the latter half of 2012 and it opened in 2011. There are literally hundreds, if not, thousands of others who chatted with him because of support tickets as well. I wasn’t saying it was some rare thing that only I experienced. I don’t know why you’d think i’d lie about something so random and stupid for no reason. I’m not a “kiddo” either. I was like 25 at that time.
@@bigjunior2172 when a kid says "kiddo" to someone else... You are prbbly younger than TSR.
@@snoop3539 Either younger or immature troll haha. I just thought it was an interesting little story that I know hundreds/thousands of others probably experienced too. It sucks that he’s being a tool, because we have similar tastes in comedy, based on his subscriptions.
I'm happy that you are clean now. Have a great day sir
@@bigjunior2172 The condescension is a bad look, champ.
Crazy to think that someone who did not kill first hand is able to get life in prison. Feels like this case really struck a nerve with the government.
The government like chuck Schumer is against people injecting drugs unless it's their own blood clotting vaccine. Leftist hypocrite.
probably cause it was difficult to find him
Drug dealers get life sentences quite often so it’s not surprising
they made example of him
Nobody was killed at all he was scammed into paying someone to kill 5 people but they were never killed. Regardless if you pay someone to kill a person you should be more guilty then the person that did it the only reason they are dead is because you wanted it done.
The judge admitted her main motivation was to prevent ‘disruption to the social fabric’, rather than justice. Says it all.
Exactly... Some bullshit double standards right there
@@Somniator7 The Judge obeys the regulations set by big pharma and other lobbied interests. It was not an act of justice, it was an act of fear that the internet could undermine the government's wealth. It's why the big banks got their fingerprints all over crypto, and why the internet is under attack. They gave him life + 40 years as a warning to anybody else wanting to do something similar.
@@Somniator7 I didn't say they were 'mutually exclusive', I'm saying they're not really related at all. There is nothing inherently moral about stasis, nor anything inherently immoral about change.
I mean, isnt it justice putting away a person helping drug addicts be stayed on drugs even more?
The true social fabric is without tyranny. Sic semper tyrannis
I feel like I just watched 22 hours of information in 22 minutes. So thorough! Great job Cindy Pom.
Was randomly recommended this video. First thing I though was, "60 Minutes", wasn't too far off. Although I'm American, so maybe that's why 60 min came to mind.
@@lubu9209 because of i am turkish guy i accidentally confused minute and second each other, and i thought that this video lasts for 60 seconds but soon i figure it out that it is not 60 seconds
I definitely misread that last name, lol
Same@@shekelboi , I just looked at it, cycled down comments...then my brain was like "WUT?"...
is cindy pom the cleaning lady from Family guy?
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For him to be sentenced that long vs those convicted within pharmaceutical to still be walking free, rich from the suffering of many (including my grandmother) is insane. Sigh.
Excellent point. The Sackler family flooded America with oxycontin, resulting in thousands of overdose deaths, but they are billionaires who won't spend any time in prison.
Not really drugs dealers get life sentences often . Like the judge said he was privileged and still picked a life of crime it’s his fault
@@cool-yt1zqhe’s a sociopath if i’m not mistaken but still your right
@@cool-yt1zqAs if the US big families act differently
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The Judge had an interesting perspective in her findings. Murderers, and Rapists don’t get life, so I personally don’t agree, but I hadn’t considered comparing him to a real life drug dealer. If the Manson girls can get out, surely this guy can, especially as our culture moves towards treating addiction as the mental illness, & health problem that it truly is. He’s fortunate to have so many supporters.
It's hard to argue that anyone is ment to spend the intier life's in prison but if anyone is I would say someone who put hits out on pepoles life's and trafficed litteral tons of meth and harion would be one of them
Although I agree life in prison is a harsh sentence, I get it, as this sentence sets a precedent, a warning for people looking at ventures of this type. But in regards to what you said about addiction, what was Ulbricht addicted to? Money? Control of his "empire" ? That's a bit ironic in light of libertarianism, I think.
There may be many ways of fighting for libertarian causes, but I don't believe that libertarianism was his major goal.
Yeah, murder and rape is WAY way worse than drug related crimes, and murder and rape absolutely should get life in prison since they’re horrible crimes
I agree that he has a chance to get out
They using him as an example.
You can r*pe all the girls you want but you cannot r*pe the government LOL.
serious tho, if they hadn't stopped him early he has the potential to be a cold killing kingpin.
Having personally researched the topic intensely myself in an ongoing capacity, I am deeply impressed with the quality and accuracy of this report. Well done and thank you.
I heard he got more than a "bear hug" when he tried to get his laptop back.
@@redwolfexr did they punch him?
@@rogoznicafc9672 Standard issue big husky dude in armor.. ground, and "suspect" was the "high speed impact" filling between them was what I heard. Wired, I think it was.
How do you know about accuracy?
exept he wasnt a druglord, he just ran the site.
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lmao i wonder what this video must’ve felt to you, old timer. some technological mumbo jumbo? what will i think of the current technology when i reached 63 years old. long way to go
@@shima-yumaiif AI lets us get that far. We opened the barrel.
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Damn sweet to read your simple yet heartwarming comment
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You summarised whole story in 23 minutes, was aware of the incident from the beginning but you have done a great research and wonderful storytelling.
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@@damienocallaghan2648 that ruins the whole thing for you? lol virgin
@@damienocallaghan2648 Researching, writing and summarizing the story is what he meant, that is a very large task. Posting it into text to speech software is something completely different. But as someone that had worked with text to speech on a professional level, it was done very well because you have to tweak it so that the pauses and transitions are coherent and not some unnatural sounding.
You're right! The amount of research that went into this was a lot of work, the brilliant part was summarizing it in such a way that listeners like you and me are intrigued enough to listen beyond the first 30 seconds and compelling enough that we lose track of time to listen to the entire presentation!
She name checks Nick Bilton an his book American Kingpin, basically the only research necessary.
He was clearly guilty but to me the sentence was over the top. Life without parole was harsh.
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I agree with you. Murderers get way less.
He wasn't guilty of anything immoral. He deserves no time in jail and it's disgusting to see so many slaves supporting this sentence.
@@toromontana8290 He never tried to murder anyone. That's government propaganda.
@@jameskorva3925 well drug dealing and murder are pretty immoral but each to their own.
I remember reading this news earlier.. one of the jury members, (a woman of a mother whose son committed suicide because of drug addiction) was hell bent on punishing this guy for life, while the other jury members wanted it to be like 10-20 years something and not life sentence.. so basically it was a wrong selection of Jury.. she took her personal revenge
I thought the judge makes the sentence. The Jury just decide guilty or not.
That's not how the US Court system works. Sounds good though.
It was the social justice warrior of a judge not the Jury, that's just how it works
Drug additions are the same ones who rob and steal from people when they need money to buy, they can even kill and injure people went they get high or drive on the street. Drugs should be banned completely, especially there'r so many saddies and edgy young people in this world.
Well good for her, love to see a girlboss winning.
They tried to make an example out of him with that sentence. But boy oh boy that back fired. There were so many marketplaces once the silk road when down. It was like roger starting a pirate era
They had to go ballistic on deepdotweb because of that.
I graduated and started college in 2011. The Silk Road was well known and used amongst friends and fraternities. It literally was the Amazon of Drugs. Those were crazy times.
he's only in jail because he cut out the CIA
you mean it was that common to take drgus in college. Man, what a bad influence. College is tough but it aint that bad to make someone do drugs
@MubashirullahD
Uhh, party drugs are used in colleges to party, not to escape the horrors of college life.
Sounds like you're using for all the wrong reasons. Stay safe.
Those were great times. Not going to lie.
No. That is a sane, manageable market. Funny how fentanyl came so quickly after this stupid bust.
The most interesting thing for me is that he allegedly ordered multiple murders for hire. It says a lot about how it all snowballed for him. From a free marketplace to getting to this dark place of being a world #1 drug lord that "does what he has to do" like murder for hire. I think he never intended to do that kind of things when he first started the project.
The used that to get the searches then immediately dropped the charges for the murder for hire. Seems they didnt have anything to back up the claims and that was never added to the trial. Also doesnt even get into the claims he made that he wasn't the only person who had access to the account.
he did
Seems he was willing to compromise himself for what he seen as a greater good. Aka Silk Road for everyone.
@@IL_Bgentyl do you really believe the bullshit coming out of your mouth?
Most of these freedumb types are privileged white boys who wants rules for others but not for themselves. It's an ego thing first so they're mostly sociopaths.
His sentence is crazy considering that someone who killed 2 people while drunk driving only got 14 years
if 2 people = 14 years, how many lives do you think the silkroad took?
@@tobi9838how many lives has smoking and drinking took?
End the unconstitutional war on drugs.
@@tobi9838People will always find a way to get drugs, the only thing the government can do is educate people and make sure no one is buying laced stuff to reduce deaths.
Drinking is good for the goverment. Alcohol is a legal drug. Here in Russia, 100 ml small bottle of legal vodka is only 1 USD at current exchange rate.
Never challenge a government to a fight on who is the best drug dealer .
The CIA hates competition
It was reconciling his identity ... you know, not having been a bronx poc who dealt crack.
His biggest crime the judge said, was in having been a _privileged_ [white male]. See..?
Her new private practice is filled with ALL the DEI, equity, inclusivity BS.
On behalf of this country, this prison sentence is an embarrassment
Did you want more or less time?
@@arizonatea3734 less obviously
Very
@@arizonatea3734 More. They want the sentence to extend to the afterlife.
They care because the government wasn't getting a share, they don't care because it was immoral.
It's insane that he got two life sentences for essentially making a deep web ebay.
how about the hits he ordered
@@kiklocus4660 that would be relevant if he got charged for those hits.
Maximilian Schmidt did something similar and only got 7 years and served only half of it. (He only sold $3.8M though, quite a small empire compared to $200M)
@@kiklocus4660 was he charged for those?
@@snø_music0 no idea man I live by the rule that life is not fair, there is no such thing as fairness, it exists when its convenient
The judge speaking of there being no privilege in the our(US) judicial system is laughable.
@MrTsiolkovsky Dont do that. Dual party system just works to divide the United States. The founding fathers said it themselves. Lets just be honest and say for white people in high profile cases it hardly exists at all.
He was literally the epitome of privileged. White, middle-class, Ivy League education and still managed to F'up his life.
@@XtoCee black "people" are the most privileged group nowadays
@MrTsiolkovsky - Trumpers always give themselves away.
@@XtoCee he went to penn state, not upenn. upenn is the ivy league you're thinking of.
American Kingpin is the book about Ross Ulbricht, it is truly one of the best true story books I've ever read. I could not put it down. This video was very well made and covered a lot of information in 22 mins.
The hard part of these videos is
A. The deep research
But more importantly
B. Having a voice people can listen to for longer than 2 minutes.
Great video!
Someone else's deep research. Then others come along and take it, snip it down and make it their own.
I love the voice ( narator) too😝
@@jaggirl fair use
Simp
I’m surprised the crocked cops only got 6 years. There should be even harsher punishment for those in law enforcement seeing as their job is to uphold the law. 🙄
yeah but what they did is mostly warrented to minor charges. there are thousands of people who do money laundering and get less than 4 years and obstruction of justice is a minor crime. as long as he didn't have intent to distribute narcotics etc, he wouldn't get as harsh of punishment. of course law enforcement know this so they aren't stupid enough to have intent to distribute etc. but they will money launder extort or obstruct justice as they know it will be minor charges.
@@likeablecloud2454 “Obstruction of justice is a minor crime”… yeah your country’s screwed
@@oissukki obstruction of justice is a major crime but the charges are minor for what it's for. They didn't prevent them from investigating they just took a bribe and didn't really their findings. It's just how the obstruction of justice is committed that it's a minor offense. Also
drugs should be legal. You don't have to uphold the law if the law is stupid.
@@GP-qi1ve that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
His arrest happened when I used to work with his sister in Sydney Australia. I remember her being completely stressed out constantly, I thought it was just her nature but clearly not.
Side note - cally when not stressed out was such a legend and a really good person. Funnily enough she had never touched drugs.
They were from Australia?
Hmmm maybe I’ll lie on the internet today
@@nates.4513 shut up lol
@@rororobertson did you watch the cideo
are you still in contact with her?
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@@SendNewtikr lol every username ending in 4 numbers…highly dubious
Crazy how he went though all these loopholes, just to leave something as simple as a username and email public. If he didn't do that, would he have ever been caught?
I guess he didn’t think it would blow up to the extent it did
@@JaewonJung I hate to bring hindsight into this because it's too late now, but had he been a bit more thorough, keeping all of that stuff private and unlinked to anything besides just a sign up, he may have skirted by this whole thing. Honestly, we don't know, and we'll never know because all of this already happened and we don't have a Doctor Strange to look into other timelines for us. Nevertheless, GREAT video!
All good things come to an end. especially in the drug game
Yes, it’s all in the video
When an individual makes millions tax free, they will always be caught. It's all about money and not so much about the crime. This is why alcohol is still legal and marijuana is going to be. They realized how much money and power they can get over the masses. Religion no longer works. It still makes tons of money but with the internet people can find out the truth now. When drugs and alcohol stop working they will strong arm us. Taking all the guns away and having us rely on them for safety vs being able to individually protect ourselves. Its already starting with all of these mass shootings they like to keep reporting to us. They are advocating for gun control. Meanwhile, our military has murdered millions and continues to do so UNCHECKED.
Robert Pattinson’s origin story is definitely humbling
🤣 I thought I was the only one who thought he looked like Robert Pattinson too!
Me too! Haha
Someone said it thank god, I was literally so confused at first thinking why Robert Pattinson is a drug lord lmao.
Came here expecting every comment to be saying this 😂
I thought that lmao
If he actually ordered the hit on five people then he deserves life in prison.
If he allowed hits to be ordered on the site then he deserves life in prison.
If he just facilitated drugs to be bought and sold on the site then life in prison is cruel. Thirty years would have been more appropriate. People who have killed get less than life.
It’s not like the FBI would ever lie about anything.
As someone who has had to work with addicts who literally with as much help and support provided; can't get clean; it's devastating to see their life in front of your eyes; it's hard to explain just how much pain you can see in them.
I'm an advocate for imprisoning anyone who would supply materials that can destroy a persons life.
@@oneplumpboi5317 I agree with governments taking a very hard line on drugs. Even on dope.
I guess this guy was just an amoral scumbag.
I have zero trust in the FBI these days though so I wouldn't put it past them to fabricate the five hit's he put on people. But then again maybe he did.
@@oneplumpboi5317 guns and alcohol do that too. But we don't imprison the sellers of those because they are legal. If they were looking drugs they are going to get drugs somehow. I get what you're saying but it's a bad argument.
how many hits have presidents of countries ordered? Biden, for instance, has US army at his disposal.
Amazing how he turned his life around, changed his name and became one of Hollywood’s A-list actors. Respect Robert Pattinson
😂 I thought the same too! He looks just like him!
LMFAOO
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not funny. Barely looks like him
@@TAPATIOPLEASEbooooo
Such an excessive punishment. The fact that it was more than what the prosecution even asked for makes me think that the Feds talked to the judge beforehand or something.
It sends a strong message to other people that might think about doing this..
Didn’t the Silk Road also sell illegal pornography tho?
@@blackcatfan3no
@@scottdaley1672 it really doesn't
@@harsh4898 seems to be working so far?
At 21:08 when judge was reading his sentence I felt like I was the one being sentenced , I can't imagine that being a reality for him . Too bad.
and he set his email as his full name what an idioit
Yeah and damn very harsh I was expecting 10-15 years max lol
@@Dazza5007 facts
I watched another video a massive british drug dealer smuggling cocaine and making millions he online got a sentence of 8 years in an Asian country its mad how he got life 😳
@@crazytanks2001 that's actually kind of surprising. I've heard that asian countries are actually pretty death penalty happy when it comes to drug dealing.
DEA: how dare he sell more drugs than us! Book him.
😂😂
dude was CIA rival business
Yup, I was thinking the same thing, 😂
Exactly right on 🎯
@plaidbalaclava my mistake… facilitating the sale of drugs. (Same thing)
‘Life imprisonment and fine of $186 million dollars.’
Where does the money go ?, politicians slush fund ?
Meh. He was a pioneer and will be remembered as such. He showed what is possible. Similar to PirateBay, there will always be a Silk Road in some form or another.
This comment will serve as a evidence when the FBI will be tracking you down
A pioneer?? Dude you’re delusional. Did you miss the part where he ordered people killed bahahahahha you have a certified mental issue
Yep! Tell them not to _____ and what do they want to do? _____.
It doesn’t work and never will.
Yes, the dark web is still working same as torrent sites, they quit 1 site and put to prison one guy, is all a story for the average stupid citizen who believes the government fixed the drug commerce, but hey, you can still buy guns from regular stores and kill people in elementary schools.
yeah, and for that he got his life stolen from him 😥
That judge was pressured to make an example of him no doubt. No surprise the sketchy circumstances of them figuring out silk roads servers as well.
Not sure how you came to that conclusion - but you own it.
@@Synoopy2 the time doesn't fit the crime.... murder for hire gave them power yet wasn't charged for those crimes. sounds like a means to an end.
@@SuperOCHomes Very posible now that I think about it some more. I am tired of white collar crimes not being prosecuted the same way. But that still dosn't mean there is not something fishy here.
@Jared H, pressured by whom? She gave a harsher sentence that what prosecutors asked for? Imo life in prison is far too excessive.
His mother claims he's innocent and was framed.
I bought some really nice weed (an eighth😆) from Silk Road back in the day. It was delivered in two days from my order. Thanks Ross🙏
Lol that's Amazon prime style
Lmao best comment I've read all day
Especially that it was an 8th 🤣🤣🤣
Ross had nothing compared to the Clintons and Biden yet they still run free.
He's in jail bc he dared to distribute on their turf. The world.
why didnt you just go get some from the store
Life in prison with no parole is insane
I have seen many documentaries on Silk Road and you have included a lot of information that was previously left out. Well done.
Okay thanks, that is all I needed to know, no sources needed. Now I fully trust this channel.
what tf are you going on about?
@@joshuathomas6222 the video
@@Tupacnas I'll look it up thanks, it just irks me that a channel pops up out of nowhere and somehow people trust it. Specially with these bot comments.
I've gone through the deep and dark web a few times. This is nothing compared to finding a stream, with thousands of viewers, as a living cat is tortured to death being drug on the road by a truck..
He was just making alot of money and governments weren't cut in, but the thousands of really really messed up people are still thriving.
fake story
@froglifes6829 look it up. They were arrested in Orlando, Florida near Waterford Lakes on East Colonial Drive close to a decade ago after a tire shop owner saw them trying to catch a cat on his property.
@@TheSonofabiscuit was scrolling by and this caught me since I'm from the exact area you mentioned. jesus
@@ankitbhasi7794 It's only a crime if you don't pay the government. Pay their share and they'll let you smuggle coke in, like they did in the 80s. Now get off your high horse bozo
It cant have been a livestream, the TOR network barely supports it
According to Nick Bilton’s book he didn’t stop selling guns because of the controversy but because they were impossible to send in the mail without getting caught.
by controversy I think she meant more that it was a lot more complicated and attracted attention, rather than it being morally wrong. as a hardcore libreterian he was probably very pro-gun
@xan kon what's funny is that he became so consumed by it that he oh so easily got played by extortionists, we know of two (the one explained here and another murder for hire case covered by barely sociable) and who's to say there aren't many more considering how blinded he was by his own view of the "greater good" by the end of his career.
I figured getting caught was the “controversy” he wanted to avoid.
I thought they had a dead-drop system for local sales? But yeah I guess he wanted to try and mitigate what he thought would be government surveillance?
@@farhanatashiga3721 Read your own comment back, but substitute every use of the word "he/his" with "The CIA / their", and you have a much more accurate statement.
only governments are allowed to deal drugs unpunished. no wonder silk road hit the nerve so badly.
regulated medicine is not the same as crack
@@klle3419you really thought think the government DOESN’T deal with hardcore drugs?
@@klle3419benzos and amphetamines are still drugs and legal under receipt
A friend told me, during the Silk Road era, he could finally relax about his drug habit since the negative pressure to go to his street dealer was off his shoulders, when he placed his orders online. He was guaranteed quality products with online vendors whom he'd made "friends" with. Then somehow, the ease of which he could buy, turned off his switch of *need* to a *disdain* towards drugs. It was "too much of a good thing".
He cold turkey-ed his habit realizing he was motivated to *use* through the process of enabling anxiety to get to his dealer, thus realising he had been addicted to the excitement of "the buy".
He got out of it in the end all thanks to SR.
underrated comment i had a similiar experience when i was the plug
@@omgitsgassio3191
Truth is often underrated
🙏
Tell that to the thousands of people who inevitably overdosed. Dead people can't give ratings.
To add to this and think about the violence that people nowadays go through to get drugs than they did back when silkroad was available is crazy I’m not justifying it, just a thought
@@andresbedolla798 You know what's violent?? Dying of an overdose because you trusted some stranger online.
In the US, you can fall from grace suddenly and the justice system can be implacably harsh. Ulbricht's sentence was and is ridiculously vindictive.
He didn’t fall from Grace though
They were definitely making an example out of him, to prevent any socially inept nerds from attempting to become anon drug dealers. Of course, our guy was already ordering executions and stuff so i don’t really feel bad for him.
@myles dean not fair at all, murderers don't even get sentences like that. the guy isn't a threat to anyone and he wasn't even supplying the drugs.
@myles dean as he described, one should have choice on what they put in their body, the fact that you think his sentence is deserved is outrageous. i'm not saying the guy is a saint but children wouldn't even have access to the dark web, that's a terrible take.
@myles whitley Plenty? Idk what you mean by plenty but to setup a wallet in 2011 to even hold bitcoin was hard and complicated let alone figuring out how to buy bitcoin. Just say you're anti drugs and move on.
She missed out a lot of details about Ulbrich getting scammed 7000 Bitcoin by a single guy acting as multiple people on the site. The story links into the kill for hire that he didn't end up getting charged for, it is an insane story. Anyone interested the video is called ''The Dark Side of Silk Road''.
lmaooo that name. The "dark side" of Silk Road is kinda like the "dark side" of being mauled by a bear.
Crazy how that would be about $140,000,000+ right now
You know it’s amazing what people like this dude could do if he put his work towards something that could benefit humanity! The human mind and ambition are amazing things
Perfect videolength for a dinner video, cheers!
Update: this was amazing, thank you once again!
Don’t be watching tele at the dinner table tut tut 😊
@@FallenAngel53 I live by myself hahaha
Yep. Also perfect when early to work
This video leaves out so much like the emails…. He gets scammed by that genius that had like 5 separate accounts created.
he went up against the feds, mad respect. most people would take a plea. you don't go against the feds.....they make it horrible sentences if you go to trial. they don't like work.
I had read that the plea deal wasn't all that great. 10 years to life instead of multiple life sentences. He would've stood a better chance of being released, but still could well have served the majority of his life in prison.
@@machineofadream Where did you read?
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“52 undercover purchases” yeah okay , man was getting his fix with the cops blessing 😭😂
Great video! I hadn’t heard of what happened to him. I think that sentence was such crap. Think of the damage caused by the banks done in 2008 - what sentences did the criminals involved in those crimes serve?
Or govts killing of millions or people in wars.
Well, since it was largely the fault of the government...none of them were sentenced LOL
Still in control
Their punishment was 0bama giving them $30 trillion to keep on going and doing what they were doing, also remember citygroup bank picked 0bamas cabinet as 0bama was just a puppet for the elites.
@@samuraibat1916 the banks ARE the government
and the officers only getting 6 and 8... what a joke.
it's funny how they get max 6 years for money laundering and Ross got 20 on the same charge. I don't know the scope of theirs vs ross's but damn
They were just ordinary criminals. There is no comparison in the scope of their crimes to Ulbricht’s.
@@GH-oi2jf a crimes? For what? Hosting a web site? Only thing he should've been charged was hits but he wasn't even charged for that.
@@snoop3539 One of the people buying drugs from SR died... stop acting like he was just "hosting a web site". Wiki said his ordering hits was considered in his sentence.
@@networth00 that logic is beyond me. Did he force people to buy drugs? Many more people gets killed while meeting with a dealer than dying from drug or overdosing.
The time you put in for this story is better than any media like 60 minutes. Bravo! Subscribed. Amazing editing and narrating skills Cindy!
60 minutes is a propaganda channel.
@@hearmenow909 that Aussie channel?
the prison sentencing kind of rubs me the wrong way. i've seen rapists, pedos, murderers, & shooters get less than 5-10 years, then a drug crime like this gets double life? the criminal system is so backwards
It's called people overdosing and dying, ever heard of it???
@@mikejones9906and those people choose to buy and use drugs. The victims of rapists, pedos, and murderers don’t get to choose.
@@mikejones9906ever heard of Opioid Pharma Bros being in Prison ? Their body count is millions.
@@mikejones9906 What about the cigarette and alcohol companies that kill millions?
@@mikejones9906 he didnt put drugs into anyones body, he put it on sale and people willingly bought it. they would buy it anyway and overdose.
Comparing him to a drug dealer in the Bronx, then handing him a a double life sentence in the same breath. What an absolute joke.
How is he any different from a drug dealer in the Bronx ?
Ross got exactly what he deserved.
His white privilege card was denied 😂
@@Exxperiment626how many apartment building owners in the Bronx are getting life sentences for providing parking lots where drug deals go down? This guy wasn’t dealing the drugs, he simply created the space. Additionally, how many drug dealers from the Bronx are serving multiple life sentences for dealing?
@@Exxperiment626 That card doesn't exist dummy. Yall are the ones who are privileged. commit 50 felonies yet ur still on the streets.
@@jn-gmail3140 That is the dumbest argument. Apartment building owners in the Bronx aren't building parking lots for the purpose of selling drugs, IT'S SO NORMAL PEOPLE CAN PARK THEIR CARS. This is incomparable to this guy who created the website for the sole purpose of selling drugs anonously online. Not only was he doing it for the money, he was doing it to get glory as well, hoping to get famous and even successors. The guy was also willing to pay thousands to kill people so he could cover his ass.
What he's done is way worse then a drug dealer in Bronx as he allowed tens of thousands of drug dealers to do the same on his website.
@@Exxperiment626 because he not selling drugs. did you watch the video sure he a bad guy but he not a drug dealer
I feel like this is better than alot of true crime docuseries... I felt so invested, keep it up
same
the government was only concerned because they weren't getting their cut.
Wow! I’m speechless. This is the best document on UA-cam. What a research! Fantastic form. Thank you for broadening my horizons!
Ross and I were incarcerated for an eight-month period in 2013 shortly after his arrest. During our many conversations I always thought, could this be the guy that put a hit out? Is this guy capable of murder? The answer to that question is a firm no. That was an attempt by the federal government to discredit his appeal, which was vast. They put the story out but failed to charge him. That was purely intentional. They knew it would always stand as an addendum to his story. Don't let it.
I hear it's one of many US authorities' strategies for getting people to admit to something they haven't committed, or making their case look worse for the purpose of sentencing someone, or achieving a longer than the called for sentence. I don't what kind of a person this guy is but life is too much, murderers, rapists, pedophiles and much more dangerous criminals are getting away with much less and carry on writing books and interviewing about their "deeds", the US is really messed up in so many ways
are you sur? you tlke with ross?
@@astronaut-rb8pp he didnt lmfaooo
@@astronaut-rb8pp he was never charged,more implicated. Nor indicted. With murder,or murder for hire.
If they could've, they wouldve
What he is capable of is providing a platform for people to do those sorts of things and even involve cp in the list of products for his market
I think he's learned one lesson or two behind bars, I read his essays, they are wonderful.
This judgement was way too harsh, El Chapo got less than that, which speaks more than a thousand words.
To the creator: Great video! I loved this one.
Exactly, they made a meal out of him in order to scare others into either not doing the same, or giving up people who are. It's pathetic, the government's all over the world are the biggest corrupt organizations and handlers of illegal activity than any other. Their only issue is the fact they could not think of these ideas first to make profit. And that people like Ulbricht don't work for them.
Yup, youre right. Like i already commented:
"So many and so long sentences were made to be an example for anyone in the future who tries such things because there i no logical way his sentences were that much longer than the corrupt officers."
What essays
El Chapo also received a life sentence. I don’t think Ulbricht is capable of learning the lessons he needs. Instead of writing essays, he should be reading Locke, Mill, and other writers who are the foundation of modern liberal society.
The judgement was too harsh for a guy who demanded tortures and murders be carried out on his behalf? Remind your parents why they hate their stupid child.
Such an interesting story, it deserves a proper film adaptation.
some boy scout most do not rise to his level sadly just goes to show those that burn the brightest burn out the fastest😭
It got one. It was very good
ikr I wanna hear his personal story . Like a documentary interviewing him in depth
@@beastboy44567 Why? You know he's still claiming to be innocent right?
THERE IS A MOIVE ALREADY NAMED SILK ROAD
it's really absurd how people were convinced to regard injustice as justice.
you mean people saying a guy making millions from an ilegal black market shouldn't face action for it?
The fact that this drug empire had two formal officials, who were placed to actually expose the drug empire, become apart of it in a way is kinda crazy how much money can make people move. And Ross had his life ahead of him but only saw the light instead of the tunnel he had to walk through. That light blinded him
Screw all of these drug dealers. They ALL should be sent for life. Do you realize how many lives they ruin?
Wow the real criminals the crooked cops got 6 years and the college kid got life....wtf...justice is a lie. 😐
lol Look again at his charges compared to the dirty cops...$213 million USD of illegal drugs sold on his site. And if you watch Barley Sociable's YT video "The Dark Side Of The Silk Road", you'll see the message trail Ross left where he pays $150K x 2 to a Canadian Hells Angel to "hit" a couple of people and requests picture proof. Yeah, he and the cops all got what they deserve.
@Hambubger Wiles so because they’re cops they should be let off light?
@Hambubger Wiles So ur saying that the cops should be let off because they are cops?
@@RootEntry no.. he's saying the cops should have a way heavier punishment.
@Hambubger Wiles lmao strawman
I am just now seeing this and I thought this was very well made. I know this definitely took tons of research but you made it super interesting. Great job!
Yeah, all that research. With such FACTUAL points like "The Netherlands which is a NOTORIOUS place for drugs." You know, nothing but top tier fair and OBJECTIVE reporting. LMFAO you snowflakes are a such a joke! Welcome to Normie-ville, population everyone who thinks this video is "well made."
To summarize:
-do not use Gmail
-do not disclose your thoughts on social media
-never overdo anything
Do not engage in criminal conspiracies.
@@GH-oi2jf Unless you're the government.
Yeah.. as cautious as he was, the guy had a freaking linkedin bra... That's stupid as hell.
@@Saruman1000 he's just lucky he didnt get caught sooner
I bought a few things from silk road several years ago (specifically LSD, Xanax, and Oxycontin). I enjoyed the amazon-esque format, the rating system made it easier to find trustworthy dealers who were less likely to cut your product with other crap than some random thug you met on the street, and you could also purchase drug testing kits and the like if you wanted to be certain. It was a very civil and safe way for people to buy drugs that was distinctly preferable to dealing with gangsters directly.
So much money and energy is wasted on the misguided war on drugs. Nothing is resolved by targeting online marketplaces like this, It only makes things more dangerous for the people involved. "What you did in connection with silk road was terribly destructive to our social fabric." Indeed. Fuck that judge, completely out of touch. The only thing Ulbricht did wrong was conspiring to murder people, which ironically he wasn't charged for.
There’s thousands of sites up like it now but none as good as Silk Road, and for some reason the really good ones never stay up long
Lol drug addict. Stay mad
The war on drugs is, in my opinion, the most delusional, misguided and downright cruel (mostly) global policy the modern world has ever known. What a waste of life, money, time, resources whilst alcohol, one of the most destructive drugs there is remains totally fine.
Problem is silk road cut out the middle men and we all should know who they are!
Yeah the war on drugs is what keeps the criminal justice system up and running. They won't lose their authority if drugs became legal but they (judges, and law enforcement in general) want to exercise their authority in controlling our lives and limit our experiences. I agree that judge was out of touch and snarky to say the least.
Hats off to your dedication and research .... And your consistency...
Yeah, all that research. With such FACTUAL points like "The Netherlands which is a NOTORIOUS place for drugs." You know, nothing but top tier fair and OBJECTIVE reporting. LMFAO you snowflakes are a such a joke! Welcome to Normie-ville, population everyone who thinks this video is "well made."
Wow, it was a great video. The story is out of this world, and the way you narrated and told, it felt like it came straight out of a movie. This video is another proof of your great talent of storytelling. Great job, and I wish for your channel to grow into millions one day.
Check out the one Barely Sociable made on the silk road. While this one was good, that one blows it out of the water.
Casefile podcast has also covered this in incredible depth. The best coverage of this story in my opinion.
@@SerenityChaos1975 I agree
I think the show on Netflix is loosely based on this
Hi sadeek how is salat
These types of things need to be get in, make your tens or hundreds of millions and get out! Get your money and either pass the site on or shut it down.
I was hesitant at first to watch this clip, but I'm very glad I did because the story itself was fascinating and the production of it was superb. That aside, I cringed at the "life sentence" he got because I was expecting 30 to 40 years, max.
30 to 40 years is a life sentence in most cases.
@@Wes-Tylerexactly lmao, he’d get out as an elder, unhirable and with little to no family left.
10 years was more than enough
Maybe nobody else will try it?
My respect for the author has increased exponentially. With such finese, you have explained. Thank you
“Finesse”
It's impossible not to read this comment in Yoda's voice.
Sad state of affairs when selling drugs gets you life in prison and people who abuse children get next to nothing.
fr
*creating a platform for selling things that others used to sell drugs
I just recently read about somebody, that openly raped an 11-year old child at broad daylight and got 1 year of probation and now I see this. I'm at a lack of words.
Bro he killed probably hundreds of people with drugs, and probably fucked up families. This is the biggest and one of the earliest drug selling websites on the internet. How many teenagers do you think got high from him? How many lives has he fucked up? That was the least that needed to have happened to him. Doing drugs takes countless years of life you can never have back. The man spread death.
Really shows how $$ matters more than morals to our institutions
If he paid taxes they wouldn't have said a thing!
This is probably one of your best videos! It was so well-made and the storytelling was top notch
The whole thing is a hoax. It's completely fake. Stop following documentaries and "The News," yah schmucks.
It's funny to see that anyone who wants to break free of the system ends up becoming the system.
When he ordered a hit all bets are off.
Exactly funny how this video conveniently left out the murder for hire parts
@@jonafrica5739 they mentioned them in the video though. They didn't actually happen anyway sooo
@@alexrevolution1 yeah but even if no deaths result from the orders, Ross still had the intent and was fully convinced those people were killed
Ya like the movie the beach
Just about everything. Crypto is the same too 😂. Some of these CEO’s buying mansions as their projects tank and investors lose everything. Reminds me of wall street.
can't help but feel that the big importers wanted to make sure nobody would think about cutting them out from the chain and thus the life X2 sentence.
let's be real, the sales and the profit are *Nothing* when it comes to the global drug trafficking, but the potential to severely disrupt the local distribution part of the business was too dangerous for the established industry...
thanks for the upload
The local drug dealers were getting supplied from these sites, I know because it still happens now
@@Kaiyats I suspect federal agents are still involved in trafficking..
The good old days of Silk Road. Gone but not forgotten
Any new reliable sites?
@@vickycastro4639I don’t know what you are looking for but please be very careful. So many different things are laced with F now.
Great work! This all aligns with the book "American Kingpin" by Bilton and everything else I've read! It's actually nice to see a thread where people are interested in the story and not just saying the Ulbrich is magically innocent.
The Netflix show “How to sell drugs online, fast” reminds me of the Silk Road story. Good watch either way.
What’s he really guilty of? Promoting freedom
@@OnSiteTrav Yeah a dumb freedom, no thanks.
he's magically innocent.
it's all but the gov who made him kill people. he was just getting his damn commissions and didn't even sell them drugs and guns himself.
@@OnSiteTrav u and I belong to the parallel society, my friend.
welcome to the revolution
Mann that judge is cruel and most of been having a bad day when she sentenced him. I've seen murders, actual drug dealers, rapists get lighter sentences
Seriously even child rapists
El chapo got a lighter sentence
the government doesnt like when you try and compete against it.
Must have been that time of the month... Overkill on the sentence. Exactly what you would expect from an irrational woman.
@@apointtomake1517 dude stop that, u can’t be speaking facts online
Once the FBI tagged Ross with the “Kingpin” charge, he was doomed.
The crazy thing about Ross… is that he never really spent any of his money… or seemed to have much interest in doing so.
No, once Ross refused the plea deal he basically asked for a severe sentence. He thought he was the smartest guy in the room (old line about the idiots at Enron). Don’t mess with the government. They will make an example out of you. Once they got his open laptop it was over.
He did bought a Tesla.....And what else is something we never know.
OHHHHH. and spent it on HITS on other!!!
He didn't need to spend the money to fuel his delusions of grandeur. It was enough to have access to the funds in the bank. And just because he wasn't a very material person doesn't mean he didn't use it for various other things such as purchasing false identities or to hire hitmen to kill his enemies.
@@WestCoastAce27 Well the plea wasn't really much of a deal. It carried a minimum of a 10 year sentence to a maximum life sentence anyway.
Crazy how the various government agencies didn’t know about each other’s investigations.
So the drug dealer gets two life sentences plus some 30 odd years in prison but the two governmental employees who are supposed to be above that kind of thing and who swore an oath to uphold the law only get 6 years. What a wonderful court system we have.
Excellent video, well researched and all good info, no filler. Thank you.
On a side note... 6.5 and 8 years for the corrupt agents in comparison to being warehoused until your death is absolutely ridiculous imo.
Whenever someone tells you "there are no rules" beware. What they really mean is that they create their own.
No, when they say "there are no rules" what they're really saying is, "I'm too naive to realize that the only rules are the arbitrary ones that the government makes so they can take your money".
That is an awesome quote Misery
Reminds me of an old Laurel & Hardy movie where they land on an island and make their own country without any rules, then you see a woman wiping children's mouths on the flag, then Laurel & Hardy get overthrown and sentenced to die for a reason I don't remember, then they survive because the island gets flooded and everyone leaves.
no shit! what has the gov done??
yeah, exactly! made their own fncking rules
I suggest u never think about anything in your life ever again.
just be the good boy that u r, take your share, pay your taxes, visit the church, keep your useless trash can of a mouth shut all the fncking time and do not commit thought crime
He was really willing to go as far as having people killed to keep the site from becoming compromised. He really did become a drug lord.
I can think of a million people - stalkers, people who have threatened me in person, and the countless rapists that go free - that should all get a fraction of the sentence he got. Ross should be in jail but for a much shorter period of time.
He ordered the killings of multiple people.
Because he was a threat to the modern day slavery system
did you forget the part where he ordered to kill people?
@@TheLifeOfMrT and knowingly allowed the distribution of drugs that definitely killed at least one person. It’s weird that people defend this guy.
@@saturnna467 it's the person's decision to do drugs. If they die from that drug it's on them. Unless they received something unknowingly there's nobody else to blame and its extremely unlikely their first stop to get said drugs was from an dark web site meaning they're getting them one way or another. If anything Ross provided a safer more secure affordable and trustworthy way to recieve what people were going to get anyway. Hes on the hook for the attempted murders but I dont see how it's his doing people were selling drugs on his site. If I offer a place where people can buy and sell anything they want and they decide to sell drugs that's on them.
Also, all that BITCOIN he had which had to be in the hundreds of thousands back then would be worth billions today, I wonder where all that went??? How is THAT any different than what any criminal organization does?
Very well researched and presented. With regard to the sentence I feel it was too severe. I think 20-25 years would have been plenty.
We give less of a sentence to murderers and rapists, like Brock Turner.
ten years would have been too much
Agreed, I'm norwegian and here 21 years is the maximum sentence you can give initially.
When you focus on rehabilitation instead of punishment, people can and will change.
Also, to me it doesn't really make sense to give long sentences for non-violent crimes.
@@trygveevensen171 exactly every 10 years you change as a person even your cells completely change
He ordered hits on people to be murdered and I know he wasn’t convicted of it but he deserves the sentence cause because of that
Dang, the note that the judge wrote back to him was brutal.