The Bishop of Rome, the Pagans of Rome, and the Fall of Rome Ep. 72

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  • @nickvolesky
    @nickvolesky 4 роки тому +11

    Thank you David and team for these videos!
    It's so important to shine light on early Christianity and the history, even if it makes us uncomfortable.

  • @juniorgomez7187
    @juniorgomez7187 3 роки тому +8

    We always learn about the persecution of Christians in Rome but forget how the pagans were persecuted even worse later on. That’s why polytheism died in the West but Christianity didn’t.

    • @johnbross6065
      @johnbross6065 3 роки тому +1

      Actually polytheism went underground

    • @aquarius2284
      @aquarius2284 3 роки тому +1

      There's a revival of polytheism with the new age movement and wicca ^^

    • @yaruqadishi8326
      @yaruqadishi8326 2 роки тому

      @@aquarius2284 it's not new age and by the way Mormonism is satanic luciferian like new age and sometimes worse it's pretty much Satanism in the 1800's and today.

    • @yaruqadishi8326
      @yaruqadishi8326 2 роки тому

      @@johnbross6065 some deer but you didn't get it from anywhere but from phagans so.

    • @johnbross6065
      @johnbross6065 2 роки тому

      @@yaruqadishi8326 Mormonism is a christian religion and paganism is a real real religion despite your ignorance

  • @sarahmuirhead4233
    @sarahmuirhead4233 4 роки тому +14

    Loving this history series

  • @JJ-il8vf
    @JJ-il8vf 4 роки тому +6

    No catholic would tolerate the idea that papal supremacy was a myth. That would be like me saying “there are many LDS who would disagree with the idea that total apostasy occurred, but there are also many who would be perfectly content in conceding true Christianity stuck around some places.” It’s a core doctrine to our faith and if you deny it in any manner you are not catholic.

  • @johnlewis6526
    @johnlewis6526 3 роки тому +4

    It’s crazy that the western empire and the Nephites fall at a similar time

    • @45s262
      @45s262 3 роки тому +2

      👍🏻

  • @kassimkhan5524
    @kassimkhan5524 2 роки тому

    Oh man how I wish I had a history teacher like you

  • @seans5289
    @seans5289 4 роки тому +7

    How would one determine which books of the Bible should be canonized?

    • @thelatterdayarbiter
      @thelatterdayarbiter 4 роки тому +5

      Sean S answer back then: politics

    • @seans5289
      @seans5289 4 роки тому +1

      david janbaz: How do we know what year a gospel was written?

    • @seans5289
      @seans5289 4 роки тому

      Latter Day Arbiter: What about in the present day?

    • @seans5289
      @seans5289 4 роки тому

      david janbaz: So, within how many years of the resurrection were the first gospels written? Were they all written around the same time?

    • @seans5289
      @seans5289 4 роки тому

      david janbaz: And who were the authors of the books?
      I recently moved to Utah.

  • @rockosbasilisk75
    @rockosbasilisk75 4 роки тому +4

    Killing it again with The Santa Clause jokes!x)

  • @KevlarX2
    @KevlarX2 4 роки тому +3

    Great episode. Learned a lot.

  • @gregoryfriday6242
    @gregoryfriday6242 2 роки тому

    Suum cuique", or "Unicuique suum", is a Latin phrase often translated as "to each his own" or "may all get their due".

  • @Waffleflef1
    @Waffleflef1 4 роки тому +3

    Pretty cool.

  • @anthonymagee5725
    @anthonymagee5725 4 роки тому +5

    I take this serious. Loving it also. Question tho, why did Paul feed the Gentiles milk instead of meat pertaining to the principles of the doctrine of Christ??? If you could explain this idea for me, I have a relative that might convert. Thx in advance.

    • @thelatterdayarbiter
      @thelatterdayarbiter 4 роки тому +2

      Knowledge is likened to food among children. If you feed a baby meat instead of milk before he is ready, the baby will starve.
      Likewise with knowledge, if you teach a man deep doctrine without teaching him the basics of the gospel first, that man will be left confused and distraught.
      So it is with all knowledge that God, Christ, the Holy Ghost, and their prophets teach us line upon line, precept upon precept, and therefore milk before meat

    • @anthonymagee5725
      @anthonymagee5725 4 роки тому +3

      Latter Day Arbiter I completely understand your idea. My thought is why did Paul stop the principles of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost amongst the Gentiles? I’m thinking it was because they were pagan worshippers and like you said they required milk before meat. If this is true are there any sources validating this idea?

    • @Hamann9631
      @Hamann9631 4 роки тому +2

      @@anthonymagee5725 Paul didn't stop teaching baptism and the gift of The Holy Ghost among the Gentiles. Many of Paul's epistles were letters to people who had already been baptized and thus didn't need baptism.

    • @anthonymagee5725
      @anthonymagee5725 4 роки тому

      Hamann9631 I agree with your statement. However in Acts there’s a policy change. I’m just trying to figure out how to explain why the principles of the gospel wasn’t practiced amongst the Jews and why evangelicals believe that those principles doesn’t matter and just have faith alone.

    • @ellimistww
      @ellimistww 4 роки тому

      @@davidjanbaz7728 Baptism was a custom in Jewish society under Old Testament law. Since Jesus was brought up observing and following Old Testament law and tradition, he was baptized by John, but as John the Baptist pointed out, he only baptizes with water and he who comes after him shall baptize with holy spirit; after Christ's crucifiction many of the Old Testament laws and practices were null and void as a new Administration was now in effect- the Administration of Grace, where we still live within today, and water Baptism is no longer necessary. However we humans are proud and stubborn and it is hard to give up old traditions and customs, such as not eating unclean meats (God had to tell Peter more than once what He calls now clean, call not thou unclean), and water baptism. Romans 10:9-10 tells us clearly the requirement for salvation and it does not include a water baptism.

  • @manawaputra6927
    @manawaputra6927 3 роки тому

    Julian did not try to crush Christianity. But back to his culture! His root! Hellenismos! And look.. Christianity just led us to Dark Ages.

  • @45s262
    @45s262 3 роки тому

    When does He-Man come in. Let's talk about He-Man.

  • @andrewbatist6355
    @andrewbatist6355 4 роки тому +1

    0:31 dude im laughing

  • @patrickjohnson7592
    @patrickjohnson7592 Рік тому

    The Nazarene Jews were excluded, from history Many of the Israelites, went to Heaven, in the first century .Revelation, Chapters 7, and 14, Daniel, chapter 7. Ghristians, apply, these Scriptures to themselves, but they have special, applications to the Israelites.

  • @JohnDoe-zu2cm
    @JohnDoe-zu2cm 3 роки тому

    This is apocryphal as acording the the LDS these individuals were apart of the ambomnible church, and therfore apostate.

  • @spiderb3367
    @spiderb3367 4 роки тому

    Bro did you just put the minarets on Hagia Sophia...😵 shame shame

  • @gregoryfriday6242
    @gregoryfriday6242 2 роки тому

    יהוה

  • @davidamicus9757
    @davidamicus9757 4 роки тому +11

    I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ in the Meridian of Time (aka the Catholic Church) which never went into Apostasy. I suggest reading Eusebius "History of the Church".

    • @nealljones
      @nealljones 4 роки тому +11

      Great book, for sure. Eusebius was an extraordinary person. We'll disagree on the apostasy, the Trinity, and many other points. But we can still be friends and respect each other.

    • @davidamicus9757
      @davidamicus9757 4 роки тому +5

      @@nealljones Absolutely!

    • @davidamicus9757
      @davidamicus9757 4 роки тому +2

      @@davidjanbaz7728 Our Lord gave us three great gifts - His Body & Blood in the Most Holy Sacrament of the Altar to nourish and feed us, His Mother to be our Mother, and the Pope to guide, guard and to protect His flock. Pope after Pope back to Peter who is the Rock Christ built His Church upon and promised that the Gates of Hell would not prevail. Today Peter speaks through Francis.

    • @davidamicus9757
      @davidamicus9757 4 роки тому

      @@davidjanbaz7728 Pope Francis is the lawful Bishop of Rome. He has not changed any doctrine or dogma. However he has changed several disciplines like adding the name of Saint Joseph to all the Eucharistic Prayers which is his right. Also against much opposition he canonized Junipero Serra.

    • @davidamicus9757
      @davidamicus9757 4 роки тому +1

      @@davidjanbaz7728 The Pope is entitled to his own personal opinions and they are not binding upon the faithful. Like he has a favorite sports team in Argentina,. We are not obligated to support that team. Bottom line - the Holy Spirit will not allow the Pope to proclaim ex cathedral anything heretical.

  • @musicguy20
    @musicguy20 4 роки тому

    I could do with out the annoying clips of other media trying to make this video funny. It’s over done and dead now, time to move on guys.