The Western Schism, Martin Luther, and Reformation (1300-1805 AD) Ep. 74

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  • @samuelsspen
    @samuelsspen 4 роки тому +15

    Ok genuine question. How do you all find people for the show?? My husband is an ex-Luciferian and converted 3 years ago. We are OBSESSED with you guys and he has so much insight and his conversion story is wild too.

  • @delvingeorge2807
    @delvingeorge2807 3 роки тому +5

    You are Awesome on History Docs coming from a Catholic!❤️

    • @mynameis......23
      @mynameis......23 2 роки тому +1

      Debunking catholicism
      I'm more blessed than mary
      Proof = Luke 11:27-28
      27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
      28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
      In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen
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      CHRIST alone
      John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
      ACTS 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
      There is only One Mediator between God and men, LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
      For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
      Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
      Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
      Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
      Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by One Spirit to the Father
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      Work of God =
      John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
      29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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      1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
      Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
      Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
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      Jesus said Matthew 23:9
      9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
      And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
      11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
      Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
      Sad
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      Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
      Use this to defeat the argument.
      Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
      Matthew 12:46-50
      46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
      48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
      Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
      John 19:26-27
      26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
      By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
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      We should not pray to apostles
      Romans 1:25
      25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
      Acts 10:25-26
      25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
      Acts 14:15
      15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
      Revelation 19:10
      10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
      Revelation 22:8-9
      8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
      9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
      Colossians 2:18
      18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
      You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
      Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
      Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
      26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
      And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
      34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
      Hebrews 7:25
      25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
      It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
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      Apostles are allowed to marry,
      1 Corinthians 9:1-5
      1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
      3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
      If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
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      The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
      1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
      2)He sank down while walking on water
      3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
      4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
      5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
      6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
      7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
      8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
      9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
      10)King Soloman messed up,
      11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
      Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
      12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
      13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20, 1 Corinthians, Galatians.
      14) Apostle John when receiving Revelation worshiped an angel and the angel said "see you do not do that. Worship GOD" Revelation 22:8-9
      If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
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      Galatians 4:21-26
      21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
      Sarah is mother of all, Not mary
      Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics
      Changed the 10 commandments by deleting 2nd commandment, and dividing the 10th into 2 commandments. Also changing the real Saturday Sabbath to fake sunday sabbath.

  • @davidlemon7543
    @davidlemon7543 4 роки тому +3

    Great series of videos. Thanks for making them. It's a lot of work putting this together. I enjoyed them even though they were just a 30,000 foot view. I get it that you are trying to make shorter videos that people will actually watch. Would you consider ever going more in-depth into some of these issues?
    There were also other reformers of this era worth mentioning such as William Tyndale, and John Clavin. Those two and Martin Luther, could each be a video of there own.
    Thanks again David for putting this together, well done!

    • @davidsnell2605
      @davidsnell2605 4 роки тому +3

      If people are interested, I'd certainly consider it. And yeah, unfortunately I wasn't able to get around to all of the reformers, though they are certainly deserving of attention. However, I did mention them (and provided some resources for further study) in the description. Thanks for the suggestions!

    • @davidlemon7543
      @davidlemon7543 4 роки тому +1

      @@davidsnell2605 I see that in the description. Thanks for all of your hard work.

  • @EverydayNormal
    @EverydayNormal 4 роки тому +3

    Not bad for such a quick gloss over. One big error is that the Puritans did not establish all 13 colonies. The American Cavaliers are the other big group that settled and made colonies. the history of both groups is quite important in understanding our modern world.

    • @davidsnell2605
      @davidsnell2605 4 роки тому +2

      Fair point, thanks for correcting that.

  • @tamlilly4194
    @tamlilly4194 4 роки тому +6

    Latter-Day saints members tithe so that they could build temples for people to worship. Catholics gave money to the Church so that St. Peter's Basilica could be built as a place of worship. Same motive and good intentions! Making charitable donation to church building funds is a good act that one should do! Not only does it helps out the church, but it also changes us from within.
    One important thing that should be mentioned but the video didn't addressed is that the Catholic Church is 100% against the selling of spiritual things; it's called the sin of Simony. Some priests may have miscommunicated this and made it like sound like they SOLD indulgences or some priest actually "sold" it but either way, the Church is against this and it is a sin. The Catholic Church never taught that you could sell indulgences. Also, not all priests always follow the church's teachings, and they're wrong for that.

  • @lw1959
    @lw1959 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the great video!! One clarification… the first Pilgrims were Separatists, not Puritans. They viewed themselves as separate & apart from the Anglican Church. The Puritans came immediately afterward. 😊

  • @RickJonesJr
    @RickJonesJr Рік тому

    This series is epic!

  • @nealljones
    @nealljones 4 роки тому +7

    Love this series. Thanks!

  • @PigsXing
    @PigsXing Рік тому

    fantastic series!

  • @goatcurry1014
    @goatcurry1014 Місяць тому

    There are 2 John XXIIIs in history the photo that is used in 2:00 is the more recent one

  • @radixreuel7631
    @radixreuel7631 2 роки тому

    THIS LIFE
    therefore is not righteousness, but growth in righteousness, not health, but healing, not being but becoming, not rest but exercise. We are not yet what we shall be, but we are growing toward it, the process is not yet finished, but it is going on, this is not the end, but it is the road. All does not yet gleam in glory, but all is being purified.
    -Martin Luther

  • @IslandboyPLM
    @IslandboyPLM 4 роки тому +3

    Cool! I love this part. 😊

  • @hongkongeatsandadventures5497
    @hongkongeatsandadventures5497 4 роки тому

    What is the official LDS stance on Martin Luther.

    • @grandpaje4734
      @grandpaje4734 4 роки тому +3

      My understanding as LDS, Martin Luther was inspired by God like any other faith finders.
      Meaning that they were leading people to believe in God. They have some truths.

    • @srilankangenie
      @srilankangenie 3 роки тому

      The Church has high respect for the reformers that did something about the highly politicized church that had fallen away from Christ's principles.
      The church is grateful that they translated the scriptures and then went on missions teaching about Christ. These events are the reason why we had the great spiritual revival in the United States. We had the founders of LDS, JW and Seventh Day Adventists all happening around the same time. All three are global churches. These churches take the scriptures into places that the early disciples never thought would've been possible. So high respect for those working to teach other's about Christ!

  • @galbyman
    @galbyman 4 роки тому +1

    Olan Rogers cameo!!!

  • @tamlilly4194
    @tamlilly4194 4 роки тому +3

    It's actually shocking that priests and popes back then (even now!) did all these horrible things since we hold them at a high standard, but it's important to remember that they are human too, which means they are also sinners. Perhaps, one of the worse popes in history is Peter. Peter, who in the Catholic Church is the first pope, PUBLICLY denied Christ 3 times. But Jesus (the good Shepard) still calls on Peter, telling Peter to feed his sheep (us) 3 times! God still called on biblical figures for important roles throughout the bible, like David who committed adultery. We shouldn't leave Christ for these biblical figures mortal sins and create a different denomination. Remember, Christ never intended there to be a split in a church he already created in Matthew 16:18: "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock *I* *will* build my church, and the gates of Hades will *not* overcome it." (Peter means rock). He intended: "One Lord, ONE *faith* , one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5). And in Jesus' prayer: "I pray that they will all be *one* just as you and I are *one* " (John 17:21). He prayed that we will be one in faith, not thousands of different faiths who each teach contradicting beliefs. So please don't think that the split was necessary; he clearly detest this! He even prayed that this wouldn't happen.
    "God doesn't call the qualified, he qualifies the called."
    "God writes straight with crooked lines."

    • @Stephanie-qi1ls
      @Stephanie-qi1ls 4 роки тому +1

      Schism defiles Jesus’ words. Protestantism isn’t even United; on the contrary, the Catholic Church now is United.

    • @FaithfulMel
      @FaithfulMel 4 роки тому

      david janbaz “Why eat my flesh in John 6 is literal” by the channel LizziesAnswers, and “The source and summit of our faith” by the channel Celtic Catholic Fire, check it out!

    • @Stephanie-qi1ls
      @Stephanie-qi1ls 4 роки тому

      david janbaz Catholics overlook verse 63? Watch this 2 minute video called, “Scott Hahn on John 6 verse 63” at time 0:58

    • @Stephanie-qi1ls
      @Stephanie-qi1ls 4 роки тому

      david janbaz Also 6 minute video called, “John 6:63 explained” by the channel Catholic Answers at 3:27

    • @Stephanie-qi1ls
      @Stephanie-qi1ls 4 роки тому

      david janbaz Hey David, thank you for your feedback! I think I have a better understanding of where you’re coming from. The Catholic position is not unreasonable as you might think. Hopefully by these explanations, you’ll understand why.
      Mark 16:12 After the resurrection, the Bible said that Jesus appeared to the two disciples in another form. In other words, they looked at him and did not recognize him because he was in another form. This shows that Jesus could be in any form he wants. In a similar way, Jesus could be made present to us in the FORM of bread and wine, and it would still be him, in substance. You are correct the Eucharist does involve eating human flesh and blood, but the difference here is that it is not cannibalistic. The *main* reason why Catholics are not guilty of cannibalism is the fact that we do not receive our Lord in a cannibalistic form (blood dripping flesh). We receive him in the FORM of bread and wine. I could talk more on how the Eucharist and cannibalism are different, if you want.

  • @danielhicken9298
    @danielhicken9298 4 роки тому +2

    Can't help but hear Eddie Izzard talking about Martin Luther: "The Protestant faith, that was different. That started with ... Martin Luther -- this German guy -- who pinned a note to the door of the church, saying, "Hang on a minute." ... But in German, so, "Ein minute, bitte, Ich habe einen kleinen problemo avec dieser religione." -- he was from everywhere."

  • @TheLokiBiz
    @TheLokiBiz 4 роки тому +3

    I'd love to see a video on the Mountain Meadows massacre, considering that's another large, shameful part of Mormon history you guys tend to ignore....

    • @BlueJayBirdSaint
      @BlueJayBirdSaint 4 роки тому +1

      Serve yourself: ua-cam.com/video/HhBpHNxSlpA/v-deo.html

    • @friendlyfire7509
      @friendlyfire7509 4 роки тому

      More shameful than denying black ppl priesthood due to doctrinal racism? Oh man.

    • @ionlyspeakfax1719
      @ionlyspeakfax1719 3 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure they have a video on that

    • @TheLokiBiz
      @TheLokiBiz 3 роки тому

      @@friendlyfire7509 Wait, when did i say that? Both are pretty damn awful...

  • @andrewrae8064
    @andrewrae8064 3 роки тому

    4:45 1700s should be 17th century. 30 years war was from 1618 to 1648.

  • @jenex5608
    @jenex5608 2 роки тому

    Anullment not divorce

  • @BrendonKing
    @BrendonKing 4 роки тому +3

    I’m getting ready for the Protestant army on full force on this one.

    • @truthbebold4009
      @truthbebold4009 4 роки тому +2

      Nothing to really complain about here. The next one though... me thinks there'll be much to protest...

    • @BrendonKing
      @BrendonKing 4 роки тому

      Truth Be Bold seems to me that there was a deliberate skirting around many Protestant Reformers and theology.

  • @mikeoz4803
    @mikeoz4803 2 місяці тому

    Is this a Mormon channel????????????

  • @PapaKryptoss
    @PapaKryptoss 4 роки тому

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