BRAND NEW LEICA M10-R! My Full, Hands-On Review
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- I was able to use the M10-R prior to release and these are my thoughts and whole lot of my results! Learn more about the M10-R here: us.leica-camera.com/
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After watching quite a number of M10 R reviews I am very grateful that I came across this one. So personal, so emotional and so helpful. Thank you!
Thank you for your video, a Leica is way out of my league, but just hearing you speak so enthusiastically about photography is so refreshing and inspirational to grab my camera and shoot, shoot, and shoot. Greetings from the heart of South America, Paraguay!
It is really a pleasure hearing you talking about photography. Good job!
Yes. I was a photojournalist in ‘80s. Wish I could try cameras like you do.
Helpful, I have bought the M10 Monochrom as my first Leica - and am now planning on the M10R.
Normally I am using PhaseOne cameras or my zone plate. Your approach and authenticity is much more accessible than the more technical reviews. Thanks 🙏🏻
Glad you finally got to shoot with an M. as always, great review!
First time I shot an M was in 63...does that count? Learned with 120 roll film, then the M for a few years before Nikon seduced us all with the F. Now, after letting your words roll over and through memory I am drawn to the image of an arc. Maybe my own peculiar arc is leading me back to an M, if only because I could relive through your words all those wondrous joys you just experienced - and now I know I miss those feelings. Taking time to truly enjoy the act of focusing, because that one simple act takes you deep inside the act of image creation, I dare say much more so than pressing halfway down on the shutter and letting a stream of algorithms take over the creative process. Anyway, I hope your journey takes you down as many interesting paths as my cameras took me. Happy trails.
I recently got a Leica M camera and have been enjoying the beauty of the process it offers. It's nice to listen to a woman's review, I noticed that UA-cam Leica universe is male-dominated. Bravo Leigh
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I know just a little about camera`s but plenty about a beautiful smile, and this girl has a great smile lol..WoW and never even asked anyone to subscribe or make contribution, I think I need to visit more often, what a breath of fresh air..great analysis too..
You'll certainly hear me ask for a Like or Subscribe or to join as a member because this is my job, but I try to keep it short when I do. Thank you for subscribing, by the way - it's a big help! :)
I use the M9, but M10-R touched my heart!!!
Great camera. I was trained on the M 3 and 4X5 Speed Graphic. So sharp!!!
Another aspect of the new sensor and its ISO performance (as in the M10 Monochrom) is that you can use higher ISO values to allow faster shutter speeds and thus avoid camera shake. Regarding focus, in addition to using the rangefinder, you can utilize zone focusing or hyperfocal focusing along with a higher aperture value in order to facilitate shooting on the street. Virtually everything in the range indicated on the lens barrel will be in focus.
I don't know if you will now see this (2022) and respond, but it has been my experience that gains in perceived sharpness with higher megapixels are offset by gains in blur due to hand movement when shooting handheld. It is not that more megapixels causes more hand movement, of course, but, rather, that blur caused by hand movement becomes for evident or visible with more megapixels, just as details become more evident. I have seen the difference in this regard between my 24mp and my
my 36pm cameras. The effects of hand shake on perceived sharpness are clearly more evident in the 36mp files than in the 24pm files. Using a tripod, however, eliminates hand shake and its consequences, and the 36mp file are noticeably sharper than the 24mp files. For hand held, on the fly shooting, 24mp is much better than 36mp and even more so for higher mp sensors. If you shoot using a tripod, definitely go for the higher megapixels; if not, 24mp seems to be a sweet spot. But, of course, it will depend on the extent of your hand movement.
Well done Leigh! So much better than Leica’s launch. Congrats from Porto- Portugal
Wow, thank you!
I owned both an SL and a 1st generation Monochrom. I’ll come back to that. I couldn’t help notice you were using the 35mm Summilux. I only had one lens with my Monochrom, the Summilux. Yes it’s very expensive (more than my Monochrom) but it was worth EVERY penny. I made some incredible portraits of friends and my daughter, even in low light. And, as a street photography camera, that combination of body and lens was the best combo for street photography. If I just wanted to point and shoot, I would set the lens to f16 and go. That lens was astonishing in its capture of detail for point and shoot. If I were to go back to Leica, I know it would be an M body (probably M10 Monochrom) and the 35mm Summilux. Btw, the b&w photos I got were head and shoulders above the color photos I took with the SL and then turned to b&w in post. I would say they were very close to some of my medium format b&w.
I would love to have a M10 but I think I would prefer the Q2 because it has autofocus (when you need it) and it also got optical image stabilization.
The Q2 is the most practical Leica camera to date, minus the Leica (More like Panasonic) SL series. The M line is just an attempt at clinging to what made Leicas great in the film days, but frankly, it just doesn't work as well for digital and at high megapixel counts a rangefinder is not accurate enough. Also most of Leica's lenses aren't good enough for the price on high megapixel cameras, Voigtlander and *gasp* Sony are putting out superior lenses at 1/4 the price. I'm going to put a 35 f/1.4 Nokton on my M7.
Before considering a Leica M, first consider if a rangefinder in general is for you. Rangefinders are simply not for most photographers. Also, if interested, learn about zone focusing and using the lens's depth of field indicator, which can sometimes be more advantageous than the fastest autofocus setup. I have an M2, and for me, and as the Snapchick consistently underscores when reviewing Leica, it's the tactility and the process that are key draws. No spec sheet can account for these subjective preferences, so you just have to pick up any of the one Leica variants and see for yourself.
Clear, understandable and instructive tutorial. Special thanks for the nice understandable speech.
Thank you for a really positive review... it’s nice to see how your reviews do not waste time on negativity whilst not flossing over limitations. I love small light camera systems such as the Olympus om4ti and the Leica M system and as such it is very interesting to see the M10R and hear about it.
It will sell of course but it is far less radical than the monochrome version which really has no competitors.. if you want a digital camera to get closer the experience of film photography but with the advantages of a digital sensor then the monochrome gives a file that is essentially a digital monochrome negative with the focus of intent and technical advantages of that. This is entirely different to using a colour sensor both in execution (for example using colour filters as per film) and in the final raw file which is uncannily similar to a drum scan from a medium format film negative. This cannot be emulated by any colour sensor camera.
The M10R on the other hand seems very nice but it is competing directly with many extraordinary cameras such as the z7 or the a7Riv (and numerous others) and as such is a less compelling purchase. I note this as a largely mono photographer but I think it is none the less true.
Mark
Thank you for the review ..... I just subscribed 🙏
Love you reviews. Thanks!
Thank you for watching!
Great review!
UA-cam say your name is Lee, anyway great stuffs and is it hard to turn the focusing ring when doing self portrait with fast aperture value?
I’m glad Leica does what it does, even though I don’t need a Leica, and can’t afford one in any case. But, to see a company take their efforts to the Nth degree in following their philosophy of quality and durability is sort of inspiring. My Panasonic Leica gear and Minolta CLE kit let me share in the Leica mystique, without going homeless. Thanks for your insights. 🙂
A comparison between the M10R and the X1D 2.0 would be fun. Similar resolution in the sensors and the 35 'Lux is about the same as the 45 on the X1D when factoring in the X1Ds crop factor. Enjoy the M10R. I've been an M shooter for the past 10 years. The simplicity of the M experience justifies the price for me.
Excellent and useful review. Plus the reviewer is lovely.
Nice review, well done! I've got mine on order at the Leica SoHo NYC store. I'm trading in my M10 in black for it. Looking forward to receiving it.
Hi, can you also do a review of that lens which you used(35mmf1.4 summilux)?
If you can get ahold of one you should review the M10 Monochrom
Wow, great video, great camera.
If snapchick was a camera she would be a Leica😍
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A little older but still sharp ?
This review video is better than the unveiling showcase
Thank you! :)
Leica M10-Resolution. Must be nice. Wish I had one.
I have seen this review twice, like it 😀. I'm an M shooter. Digital -- Typ240 -- and I have enough lenses from Leica, Zeiss and Voigtländer. I have been shooting Nikon since 1969 but went to Leica when going Digital.
My only problems with M is telephoto & macro. Live view, electronic viewfinder and adapters makes those genres possible but my focussing my 400mm is like flipping a coin. The M10 viewfinder is much better, but I might switch to M10, and this body is tempting.
Thank you 🙏
Nice educational videos 🙏. Please make videos on constant LED light portrait photography with camera settings... Nowadays it's what we all need n would like to learn. Thank you 👍🤝
Is there an old school pc sync socket on this camera... so I could use studio flash and the visoflex at the same time...
There isn't on the M10-P and I think this camera uses the same body.
Amazing review! Thank you so much
Great review, as usual. But not ready to give up my Q.
I'm a Q man 4 life too
I would put Leica cameras in the same league as McIintosh amplifiers. They are both great for what they do and are very expensive.
Great analogy. They are marketed (and priced) as luxury/lifestyle products these days but the engineering behind them is unparalleled. Love and use both!
I use an A7R3, but with a bunch of old manual Minolta lenses that my mother used to use. I do not understand the seeming modern phobia for manual focus - is it that our smart phones have made us dumb? I don't know. But I'm trying to teach my own kids to start shooting with manual-everything because that way they have the foundational skills to know how to tame the automatic features when they inevitably fail to quite deliver. Don't have the budget for Leica, but appreciate what they're doing here.
To me, big point of "smart" phones / "social" media seems to be disconnection, and conscious dumbing down the masses. Don't have to think so much anymore, just let google do the thinking for me and soon the AI. Problem with that is, then soon there's no original opinions anymore. But, it's the times and trends of now. There's plenty of good there aswell, but with the current levels of mass addiction, the phone seems the master, the human the host. How much different to any other substance abuse, i wonder? It should be the other way around, the toy should be just a tool... And people, individuals empower themselves from within. Time to rise above the games of society.
I love using vintage lenses too! Digital body + vintage lens is a nice combo indeed. Even though modern lenses are nice too, mainly for quick action and kids, manual lenses have the feel that modern lenses lack. They make you slow down, and really fall in love with the lenses, the pictures, the feel you get from them. And often, they are not such investment either = very little material nor financial burden. Also, manual lenses have more character of their own, and little quirks here and there. Many of the modern lenses seem digital and sterile in their output, talks something about these times...
So really the Q2 is actually a bargain... because lets face it, if you are newer to photography you don't have any Leica M glass. At least the Q2 came with a lens.
until your sensor has dust all over it and have to send it to germany to be cleaned
@@jukeboxjohnnie I believe that was for the Q not the Q2 which the latter has waterproofing but the Q does not. Even then not every Q had that problem some did but its not inherent to the Q. Also the Q2 has not been out long enough and I for one have not read about any that did. I've had mine for six months (Q2), and have not experienced it, have you???
Victor. Afraid not, several references online to Q2 letting in dust, people taping over microphone holes to try and stop it happening. One poor guy was selling one on eBay cheap this week because of dust spots. Shame as you could see it like a fixed lens af M camera just what I’d like..
@@jukeboxjohnnie Thanks for your reply but can't understand a prestigious company like Leica not sorting this out after the initial problem started on the Q. It did not seem to stop people like me buying one and the time waiting for supplies to come trough. Have not experienced it, so fingers crossed. If it happens surely its down to Leica to clean sensor foc if it's a faulty.
@@victorcarmelo8606 I have Q for 3.5 yrs... No dust. But I don't use it in The Sahara or in a dust bowl... And with little sticky tapes in place I cover the holes just in case. Always gets people curious lol.
Great video. Great images. Thank you! But honestly I just don’t get it. I learned on an old all manual SLR and shot B&W film. So I love the experience. The “work” one needs to do, at least in taking the image. The ability to look around the frame (if one uses 50mm lenses). The quality of the Leica glass. The compactness. And yes the M10R is possibly the first Leica M that can come a little closer to justifying its price (if one buys it used). But compare and contrast to say a Fuji GFX50R. Better sensor. Better images. Better dynamic range. Much better immediate output from the camera and no need to purposefully underexpose to avoid highlights being blown out. Far cheaper. And far more versatile. All within a similar style system (yes I know it’s an EVF and not an OVF but the viewfinder and composition experience is not dissimilar and I actually prefer to see what I will actually shoot which one does not with the Leica due to the parallax issues and lens blocking some of the OVF). It just feels more precise. One’s hit ratio is better. And one needs to spend a lost of time in post with the Leica. I don’t enjoy this and feel this takes something away from the art. Just a personal view.
if you have an M10P and don't need to crop as much, would you trade up? or would just just wait for an M11?
If you don’t need to crop as much, then the resolution of M10P is more than enough.
As an M8 and M9P owner, I think almost 9 grand for a camera body is just obscene. Specially during the times we are living.
If you bought your M9P new and adjust for inflation... you paid an obscene price too. ;)
Ricardo Villagran Vicent what is even more funny is Leica is supportive of communism, posting pics of Che. In a communist world, nobody can afford a Leica.
Daniel Koehler Daniel, I bought it refurbished (99.99% like new) directly at Leica Wetzlar last November, for roughly 1/3 of the M10R price.
Dentists, lawyers, surgeons, cryptos, everywhere say, what's the problem.
As also a M8 and M9-P user I think it is the price you have to pay for the best tool in that category. In eight years from now the M10-R will be available for under 2 grand. Just wait or earn more money. There is nothing better than a M camera if you like the process. Image quality has also ever been a step above the others. It is the highest end in 35mm photography.
I bought it yesterday
theres nothing that compares to Leica 🥰
The camera is not for me as I’m a Fuji user but I’m sure it’s a great camera that will make Leica fans very happy.
Hi Leigh!
Leigh, i’m drawn to these cameras...and maybe even more to their concept; their still photo-centric purpose. Have wondered why some of the other manufacturers haven’t tried to make a similar sort of stripped down, focused alternative for half the cost. Choosing lenses for one of these seems even more daunting. Any possibility of yourselves doing a video on lens suggestions, maybe aiming towards lenses that may offer great quality or character, but not so crazy expensive as the Leica options? Craig
We have talked about doing a video on our “weird” lenses but in the meantime... I haven’t used a Leica lens I didn’t enjoy - they’re all good. Also, I suggest looking for used to reduce cost. As for non-Leica, I used a Voigtlander lens on the M10-R sometimes. I enjoy those as well, and they are less expensive. :)
Ok, appreciate the reply. V/R, Craig
Welcome to the M club 👍
I don't care about resolution anymore... I do like that it seems to have better ISO, but that it.
Just found you and enjoyed your style and clarity of delivery. Look forward to watching more here! Thanks! I have a Q and thinking about expanding. I am a Sony shooter but love that L experience...
Someone should said that this video will be hypnotizing.
It is not for me, but I really want to have one.
Great review 👍 finally after so many years following you I got to know your name 🤭
I’m a big Leica fan. I continue to shoot with my Leica M2 and the beautiful 50 mm F2 Summicron. But how many people can actually afford this M 10 camera not to mention a couple lenses? You really have to be rich and most photographers are not. I’ll stick with Fuji...but for those who can afford this... Certainly a great camera.
I mean the same can be said for any professional level camera from Nikon or Canon. I use the M240 still professionally. More options is never a bad thing.
Ive said this many times before, it depends how important it is to you, I shoot fuji GFX100.. its more important to me than eating out, upgrading my car, moving house, smoking and drinking, going on holiday or having more kids. its just a question of what youre prepared to sacrifice. Ken Rockwell has a page somewhere on his site 'how to afford anything'
Jonathan Pearson He basically lives in a cave, it all depends, for some people like me, travel the world and eat well is more important than a Fuji GFX.
I also love my 50mm rigid Summicron on my M4, M5, M8 and M9-P. It is actually quite affordable for what you get.
I have paid more for my Nikon gear as for my Leica M setup which includes seven tiny Leitz lenses.
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Is a leica camera worth it?... It's purely a subjective choice, you'll either love it... or hate it especially the manual focusing models. I owned an M9 a while back but it's long since sold... Why? Well, I found it difficult to focus due to being a wearer of glasses as the focus screen (the small focus box) was too small to see clearly. Maybe if I'd persevered with it I’d still own it but I didn't... And I'm no stranger to manual focusing as I come from the days of film shooting with the OM1n and a 50mm Zuiko lens, which had a clear and bright focus screen.
Now, if I had the means to buy a Leica I’d still do so but it wouldn’t be an M model, but I’d go for the Q2 as it fits my needs... a weatherproof fixed lens, large sensor, that can be cropped to my needs.
If you have the means, and are tempted to buy an M model, I’d recommend renting one for a week or so and test it... it’ll save you thousands if you don’t like it, or can’t get used to the manual focusing the camera (I lost about 2 to 3 thousand pounds as a result of not testing the camera)... OUCH!
PS one way around the manual focusing as mentioned above, that wasn’t available to an M9 user, is the EVF attachment that can be bought to work with the M10 cameras... purist will be spinning on the spot right now 😂
Yeah, I started out with a RF for two years before I bought my first SLR & MF, (F2A & 500 C/M) over four decades ago. By then, I had learned RF is NOT well suited for left-eye dominant and eyeglass wearers. Even in the digital era, my Q EVF is a joke when compare with my older D3. Luckily, there are AF & LCD, that finally allowed me to add a Leica (as a walkabout camera) to my collection. 😂
@Chris in the end, it was a good decision to sell it as there M9 sensors had a serious manufacturing fault that reared its head some years down the road.
@Chris yes... I do miss it but, if I were to buy another Leica, I’d be there Q2
all Leicas is a pinnacle of simplicity and polished for more than a century
technologies
I hope someday I'll be able to afford a Leica camera
Love U
$13k here in Australia! Agh no
The M didn't need a huge sensor, but it may be advantageous to some people, if I personally wanted 40 megapixel then I would buy a more advanced all round camera (Sony a7r IV) I just don't think the M range is the type that needs or benefits from entering the megapixel race.
Before owning the Q2, I would tend to agree. However, I think 40 megapixels really is very versatile for cropping. I do understand what you mean though given the primary use cases for this camera.
M10 R stands for M10 Raymond doesn't it?
Hahahahaha!!!!!
YES!!!!
Needs 4K video to capture the decisive video moment.
Small correction: Not all other M10 models are still available. M10-D got discontinued completely. (M10 now only available in black.)
i am done with leica, approaching 10k are they crazy will they are trying to catch up with tech
How can mindful and intentional not be worth it?
Everyone has a different way of shooting and budget DEFINITELY comes into play. Plus, of course, what cameras/lenses you already have. There are so many factors. I definitely enjoyed my time with the camera though! :)
😇😇 Leica 🙈££
It's a beautiful piece of gear to look at but that's where it ends. Impractical grip wise, limited in its uses with manual focus only and ridiculously overpriced.
I agree as I’m changing the channel to something my wallet can handle.
Mercedes or Ford, both will do the same job yet Mercedes still persists as a manufacturer.
Great cameras, but honestly, overpriced. Their lenses are even worse in this regard. However, if you want to get started in the Leica system, I'd suggest to anyone to try out an old Leica IIIf film camera and M39/LTM screw mount lenses. You won't pay a small fortune for one and they're fun to use. With the occasional CLA, they'll far outlast any modern camera (as will any fully manual film camera), where if the modern Leica's electronics goes, you end up with a very expensive paperweight. But, if you want the modern conveniences and have very deep pockets, then buy a Leica digital M series camera. You won't beat one for quality.
I actually like the screwmount bodies more than the M bodies, if more for the experience of using one than anything. I’ve had a IIIf for over 20 years and it’s the first thing I reach for, especially when I need something light and pocketable or something I can carry just on my day-to-day activities
Leica, Trophy Wife, Leica, Trophy Wife, Leica...Leica! Cheaper in the long run! 😊
¿the camera really have a good dinamic range?
¿it's just me who find the three pictures in 1:07 and the shadow recovery example on 5:50 are "not so good"?
sorry but maybe you push too much or maybe I don't like HDR kind of work at all... whatever the case are, color saturation and that image result it seem very poor to me.
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Most Leica cameras like this have absolutely no grip at all. So you need a neckstrap and to carry the camera like a 75 year old turist.
Hey, wait a minute... I use neck straps on all my cameras!
It's a weird direction many camera facturers went for a long time, but now they're starting to add some grip and feel again. Since the Panasonic GM1 (great camera still) i've started to add extra grips with adhesive backing to many smaller cameras, and they make a world of difference. Prices for these generic (but often good) grips typically range between 10-20€. I've often used the Flipbac FBG3 from ebay. So, it's not such a biggie. I prefer grip, then wrist band, then neckstrap the last.
Canon 60d is way better.. for less than 1000 dollar
I believe the real experience of this camera is showing off how fat your wallet is (or was before purchase). And yes, my wallet is the skinny type :-)
The emperor wears no clothes: give me $1500 budget (half that for APS-C) and I can pair a modern mirrorless camera with a Sigma summilux-class lens, and produce the same and better images. But then I wouldnt be in the red-dot club. Oh well, I'll cry about that continuously on the vacation(s) I take my camera on with the saved money.
Yeah but you have to carry around a larger, bulkier, heavier camera around all day during your holiday though ;)
I get your point, however Sigma and Summilux do not belong together in the same sentence
Not so the monochrome versions ... although it’s of course arguable if they result in better images or are value, there is no disputing that they are technically unique on the marketplace today and as a film photographer they come by far closest to the experience of using film. The value of that is entirely different for each of us of course.
Hi look super good but $8200. is a use car, I love Leica but I need a lot of photo jobs to pay for this and there Wuhan virus which stop me getting work you know!!!!
My Sony a7iii with my Batis lens series beats the Leica m10-r to the punch when it comes to image quality and it’s a 24mp camera. This is why 40mp is just BS it’s about the hardware inside. I just think it’s embarrassing they are trying to fool ppl and buy this Leica camera. Just buy a Leica Q and save your money and buy a canon r5 or a Sony a7iii for a true experience. Leica is great but just not good anymore in today’s standards
This review has no relevant information nor sample photos. She wants to talk about herself. Wasted time.
I don't like Leica's digital M cameras. People say they buy them for "the experience", but if you want a Leica experience, you're free to NOT use AF and can buy manual lenses (especially with adapters). Paying $8000 to 'remove" features is laughable. And digital is a very expendable format, I bought an M7 and it was expensive but will last a lifetime. My other issue is Leica's lenses are not as good as the Leica cult pretends they are. $6000 for a Leica 35 f/1.4 that is a blurry mess compared to lenses that cost under $500 (google the philip reeve review and read the comments, he tested that awful lens on an M10 and a Sony). The Leica experience makes more sense for film, I use a Zeiss Planar with my M7.
over rated, i bet you she got a loaner
No auto focus?? Just artificial cult status
40 mp is really behind the times, I have a 102 MP and a 42, so it’s really a bit of a yawn, overpriced and archaic.
This review has no relevant information nor sample photos. She wants to talk about herself. Wasted time.