We Need To Talk About The Guitar Industry | "Another Tube Screamer?"

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  • @benjaminhartley6578
    @benjaminhartley6578 28 днів тому +10

    Let’s face it, the guitar gear game is a slippery slope. One minute you're chasing the perfect overdrive, the next you're deep in the rabbit hole of boutique fuzz pedals, convinced that elusive "you" sound is just a few more bucks away.
    But here's the truth: the gear you have is enough.
    We all get caught up in the hype, the endless stream of new releases and "must-have" pedals. We're constantly searching for the magic bullet, the tone that will catapult us to sonic nirvana. But what if the key to your signature sound isn't another pedal, but a deeper understanding of what you already own?
    Own your rig. Own your sound. It’s about pushing the boundaries of your current setup, learning its quirks and finding new ways to coax unique sounds from it. Become intimate with your gear, and you'll discover a sonic landscape you never knew existed.
    Stop chasing the next tube screamer. Start embracing the journey of sonic exploration with what you have. You might just be surprised by the results but hay thats just my opinion.

    • @thepatzer
      @thepatzer 27 днів тому +1

      On the other hand, if something isn’t working for you, sell it and move on. Life is short. Play what you like.

  • @walterppk1989
    @walterppk1989 28 днів тому +30

    If I see one more UA-cam video titled 'we need to talk about x' I swear I'm going to barf.

    • @GitShiddy
      @GitShiddy 28 днів тому +5

      We need to talk about your regurgitated lunch.

    • @yetimatzenightcat8702
      @yetimatzenightcat8702 28 днів тому +4

      We need to talk about why my dog ​​finds warm vomit lunch so tasty 😂

    • @chrisb8193
      @chrisb8193 28 днів тому +2

      We need to talk about your persistently sensitive gag reflex and it’s continuing impact on your UA-cam viewership.

    • @Mujcanal
      @Mujcanal 28 днів тому

      We need to talk about “we need to talk” youtube titles 😂😂😂

    • @mylogify
      @mylogify 27 днів тому

      @@chrisb8193 Hahahahahahahahahahha :D :D :D :D

  • @Zwidawurzn
    @Zwidawurzn 28 днів тому +11

    After buying basically every type of Overdrive out there i realized that what i've been looking for all these years is a proper Compressor pedal, i don't even need Overdrive.

  • @janfelixbergmann3819
    @janfelixbergmann3819 28 днів тому +9

    Usually it's just another Tubescreamer, or Rat, or Bluesbreaker, or Klone. That is basically 80 % of all releases.

  • @t3r080
    @t3r080 28 днів тому +3

    Limited edition pedals, artist signature pedals the artists never actually used... BOOO-RING! More and more brands making it to my sh*tlist almost on a daily basis.

  • @fraenkiboii
    @fraenkiboii 28 днів тому +2

    Imho the majority of guitarists is inherently conservative and subconsciously against innovation. It's driven by the fact that "our" heroes play guitars from the 50s and 60s. I'm in the camp "Leo did t right", too. I want all the old school stuff and reissues of guitars, amps and effects from the old days. But I also see that the market seems to oversaturate especially with pedals. It might just be because I personally have all my favorite Klon, BB and TS by now and most new pedals don't offer anything new to the table. But I also see younger guitar players (I am 40+) not having the same heroes as I do. Especially in the Quad Cortex community, for instance, the majority of people admire artists like Plini, for instance, and the gear he uses, not Jimi Hendrix, Britney Spears, Slash. Which to me means the industry and market might change "soon" wrt innovation.

  • @ronnierazor4302
    @ronnierazor4302 28 днів тому +2

    Yep, they're running in circles but guitarists are a very difficult group. To much of a change will put the majority off. We tend to stick with the tried and true gear, but on the other hand we want to buy stuff. So we're buying the same old stuff in a new jacket and we think we will find that holy grail tone. 6 months later we often sell that gear to buy that same thing in yet another jacket.... So we're responsable for that market. Younger kids are more open minded so there's still hope. 😂

  • @brutalieri
    @brutalieri 24 дні тому +1

    To paraphrase Paul Gilbert: less gear, more practice!

  • @crock2434
    @crock2434 28 днів тому +1

    I feel like all these videos are all copies of copies here lately. And man when a pedal drops its shill-ville

  • @metalzonemt-2
    @metalzonemt-2 28 днів тому +3

    How to buy all overdrives at once...?
    Bad Monkey🐒

  • @CorNigrum
    @CorNigrum 28 днів тому +3

    I remember most UA-camrs told us that something like the Kernom Ridge would settle most of the boost/overdrive needs. It just feels weird that people every day enthusiastically recommend yet another pedal, but it rarely ends up on their pedal board. How much money is there in making yet another overdrive pedal? Are people just buying pedals because it's at a price the average Joe can afford compared to the actual expensive stuff? Like a new handbag or shoes? I do agree about the new amps though, very exciting to get real tube sounds but with modern convenience. That's one area actual innovation is happening, and it's not purely software, which I personally feel is another thing that's hard to be excited about.

    • @noisebrick9248
      @noisebrick9248 28 днів тому

      Not everyone is willing to put down the money for a Kernom Ridge. Overdrives even if they are based on something, will have differences which can really be important, this can go from something as simple as what transistors are used up to actually adding options, take the EQD dunes, it's a TS but it's also a lot more. Some builders are really doing something new, even in terms of overdrives and fuzzes.
      Getting a new pedal can also bring out some creativity, while having an all-in-one could even lead to decision paralysis.

    • @arnaudstegle5034
      @arnaudstegle5034 26 днів тому

      True. I bought my Kernom and didn't buy any overdrive since. Why would I ? There is so much to do with this unit.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 26 днів тому

    Most people will never keep a guitar long enough or play enough hours on it to wear out a set of nickel frets. I also do not understand the obsession with a guitar’s weight being as light as possible, or crying about “neck dive”. 😂

  • @rafalstachura
    @rafalstachura 27 днів тому

    I have no evidence to support my claim, but here we go. I think the post-pandemic guitar boom is winding down. More and more affordably priced used gear available, much less free quality guitar learning content on YT (everyone is pushing their own guitar courses now). We are slowly coming back to the pre pandemic world when nobody had time to practice.

  • @P.E.J.
    @P.E.J. 26 днів тому

    really?? you dont have "so far away" by Dire Straights??
    probably the worlds most famous bassplay

  • @skullstjohn
    @skullstjohn 25 днів тому

    To quote Lenny from The Wonders, "You're talking gibberish!"

  • @jaunianise4172
    @jaunianise4172 28 днів тому

    It's pretty much the same story with amps, always the same circuits since the 50'/60'...

  • @nathancourtney2006
    @nathancourtney2006 24 дні тому

    The thing that’s always annoyed me is that great new pedal release and then they tell you what they’re running it through. So you have no idea what it really sounds like by the time I reaches your ears.

  • @bluzmansix
    @bluzmansix 26 днів тому

    Meh it is good to have a lot of choices, yes there are rabbit holes but in the end NO ONE is forcing you to buy stuff.

  • @nathancourtney2006
    @nathancourtney2006 24 дні тому

    Its different, like to hear your thoughts keep it real

  • @sunnysuman1255
    @sunnysuman1255 28 днів тому +1

    This was great, You guys should do this more often. Start a weekly podcast maybe?

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  28 днів тому +2

      Thanks a lot! We'd love to do that. I'm not sure if we can pull it off right now but believe me, we are playing around with the idea. Cheers //Kris

    • @sunnysuman1255
      @sunnysuman1255 28 днів тому

      @@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Should give it a go whenever you guys can. There aren't many Guitar specific podcasts. It would be cool to have one like this video. Just talking about guitar/ music related stuff. Not a demo type format, I think we already have a lot of that.

  • @skullstjohn
    @skullstjohn 25 днів тому

    These are two wild and crazy guys!

  • @MattSwain1
    @MattSwain1 28 днів тому

    My guitars are mostly pretty traditional but I still want to see innovation. I’d be more of the opinion that there’s been little improvement over what Leo did than he necessarily got it right. The market is a very conservative one so straying from the recognised guitar shapes is a bumpy journey without good odds of success.
    Amps are a bigger gripe of mine. I like to play along to tunes on my phone which hasn’t had a headphone socket in years and yet there’s so many new amps without built-in bluetooth and many of those that do say “here’s your bluetooth, but you can’t have an FX loop” or they won’t give both in anything other than a massive 100W amp that no one needs at home 🤬

  • @nattaruk
    @nattaruk 27 днів тому

    Leo Fender would not have been in the "Leo got it right first time" camp. He spent his entire career innovating and improving! He thought G&L guitars were the best he ever made.

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  27 днів тому +1

      Yeah, but bands also always feel like their best work is the latest album and fans usually decide for themselves, if they agree. 😅 I personally find Leo's Fenders, Music Mans and G&Ls equally impressive but what one ends up playing is a very personal decision. If the sound and the looks of the first take impresses you most, you don't really care too much for improved details on later guitars. As told, it's as much of an emotional decision as a reasonable one. Cheers //Kris

  • @Chucksguitargeekery
    @Chucksguitargeekery 27 днів тому

    I’ve been finding some quirky pedals on Temu that defining aren’t just another TS. I just try anything that has more knobs than Vol, Tone, and Gain.

  • @jmndrms
    @jmndrms 28 днів тому

    People like to try different flavors of things to break up the monotony of hopefully an 80+ year life. No one is forcing anyone to watch reviews of (read: ads for) new products. In fact, we are paying or watching ads for the privilege of watching the ad. And no one is forcing anyone to buy.
    There are 8 billion people on the planet; if (new thing) isn’t for you, it might be for some of the other 8 billion other people. Folks have to stop being so egocentric. If you don’t want another tube screamer, for the love god do not click on the video titled ‘BOOGYMAN PEDALS FRESH NEW TAKE ON THE TS CIRCUIT’ click the one on the rise of the Mongolian empire. People clicking on ads and then acting scandalized that product manufacturers and retailers “just want to sell products” will never not be the silliest thing

  • @jamesonpace726
    @jamesonpace726 28 днів тому

    Good info on old/new pedals driving old/new amps I didn't know & my wallet thanks you. So, if I go '62 Tele into a '65 Princeton with maybe an '90s Klon, all my problems will be solved, all women will want me, all men will want to be me & I'll be the biggest rockstar in all the land....

  • @arnaudstegle5034
    @arnaudstegle5034 26 днів тому

    Very very interesting video in general, specially the part about past days & nowadays pedals/amp combos is really interesting.

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  26 днів тому

      Thanks a lot! Yeah even though I find that a very important fact, a lot of people seem to ignore it. All you need is a bit of testing to figure it out. I mean I love my reissue TS808 but it sits in the drawer and I have modern versions of it on my pedalboard. Those just suit my non-vintage amps a little better. 🤷‍♂️ //Kris

    • @arnaudstegle5034
      @arnaudstegle5034 25 днів тому

      @@ThomannsGuitarsBasses Thanks Kris for taking time to answer. Can I tell you something? I think that there are a lot of unsaid in the guitar gear community by guitar players themselves.
      Some people are talking about specific sounds (Dumble, Blues Breaker etc etc...) but I'm not sure they're all able to hear them. To me it's as if they just repeat words of mouth or marketing tags/keywords, but it you challenge their ears I'm not sure they would be able to accurately spot the specific sounds they're talking about like fine connaisseurs., like people talking about books they didn't read. They don't want to look/feel stupid so they repeat the mantra and eventually buy gear they can't necessarly appreciate or don't necessarly need. Thanks again for time and attention.

  • @ArvidNielsen
    @ArvidNielsen 27 днів тому

    You guys keep it up. You’re doing great. Some will love the new pedals. Some will not care much, if at all.
    Ultimately, it’s the playing that matters…to me…

  • @antoonhermans8953
    @antoonhermans8953 27 днів тому

    it's a fact that the guitargearmarket is overflooded , a person only "needs " so many of whatever to be able to do his job or hobby and the latest trend is downsizing instead of "one more "

  • @GitShiddy
    @GitShiddy 28 днів тому

    Great video. This is always a thought that's on my mind is how consumerism & passion balance within the guitar industry both for consumers & creators. I find a small builder/company who comes out with a new Strat or a new Tube Screamer that's individual passion & while it isn't particularly necessary & respect it. However a major multinational comes out with a new Strat or TS that undercuts price via quantity I don't see the passion of a few, I see Fast Fashion. I see disposable product begging for your disposable income. But I also know that cheap disposable stuff is important to get people playing who aren't fiscally assured and that's as important to have for them as it is important for the small builder to have the opportunity to build their stuff. These are all tools of creativity & expression and whilst the dirty fingers capitalism, corporatism, cynical disposable product has muddied things, tools of creativity & expression are always worth having more of.

  • @MythosPedals
    @MythosPedals 28 днів тому

    😅

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  27 днів тому

      Hey guys, so I had this idea for a new pedal. How about it pushing the upper mids and cutting the lows and highs to keep the sound nice and tight? Pretty unique take, isn't it? You really should make that happen. 🤣 Cheers guys, see you at Guitar Summit maybe? //Kris

  • @andersg9451
    @andersg9451 28 днів тому

    Waiting for the first amp with 9V support on the back. Or 230V junction.

  • @650thunderbird
    @650thunderbird 23 дні тому

    👍🏻👍🏻

  • @matzer8846
    @matzer8846 28 днів тому

    ... its the never ending live long story about the - was - young evolving axe slinger in search of the absolute tone ...

  • @huginstarkstrom
    @huginstarkstrom 28 днів тому

    refretting: I bought a lot of 2nd hand budget guitars - I had to redo but not replace some of the frets (ie: level them)

  • @strat0871
    @strat0871 27 днів тому

    My original Sansamp from 1991 does it all !

  • @tuxine
    @tuxine 27 днів тому

    I totally agree!
    I'm just starting out (Tele and Les Paul Kris 😉) with all the sounds of the '70s in mind that made me love the guitar.
    I realize now that today I can try out and recreate all those sounds, with or without pedals (state amps), with or without a big budget for a guitar (my Classic Vibe 50 gives me so much joy, Even though I dream of a Custom Shop). All of this probably wouldn’t have been as easy 50 years ago.
    I really enjoy your discussions / reflections / convictions / ...
    Long live Kris and Guillaume 😄

  • @Sagerydian
    @Sagerydian 27 днів тому

    We get 10000 different TubeScreamers for every budget, 10000 guitars with stainless steel frets but we do NOT get affordable (around 1000 Euros) guitars with nitro finish. Why not??? The first company that releases a 1000 euro strat/tele clon will make millions!!!

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  27 днів тому +2

      It's because of regulations in most countries where affordable guitars are made. They are not allowed to use nitrocellulose finishes. There might be clever (and of course legal) ways to solve this so there is hope for us who love that finish. Maybe. 🤷‍♂️😅 //Kris

  • @StevesSlideandJazz
    @StevesSlideandJazz 28 днів тому

    You should be using HB and not gibson and fender!

  • @theTrend7
    @theTrend7 28 днів тому

    That intro music was delicious......

  • @JanSzedlak
    @JanSzedlak 28 днів тому

    release Tom's strat already, goddammit :D

  • @ovivan79
    @ovivan79 28 днів тому

    Nice John Mayer "I guess I just feel like" tribute solo, Kris!

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  27 днів тому +1

      Thanks so much man! That solo and tone is one of my (our) all time favourites. 🙌 //Kris

  • @yetimatzenightcat8702
    @yetimatzenightcat8702 28 днів тому

    Ich glaub ich hab's ich kauf mir so'n klavier das von selbst spielt und gehe dann als Richard Kleidermann auf tour 😅

  • @waynedoherty7758
    @waynedoherty7758 28 днів тому

    Yes, because only 5 people are going to buy that new mxr thing

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  28 днів тому

      With the amount of different options we have now it's no wonder if a certain product finds less owners than like 20-30 years ago. I don't know why we should worry or complain about it though, we finally get multiple options for a specific guitar / pedal / amp type. Which essentially makes our rig and guitar tone more unique and in my book that's a good thing. :) Cheers //Kris

  • @chrisdavies9197
    @chrisdavies9197 28 днів тому

    big Willi 😁

  • @yetimatzenightcat8702
    @yetimatzenightcat8702 28 днів тому

    Eins ist ganz sicher,.. Willy ist der hausmeister bei den simpsons 😂

  • @martintaylor1701
    @martintaylor1701 28 днів тому

    Wait, when did Jim change his name?

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  28 днів тому +1

      Don't worry, Jill is still called Gollum. We just found new ways to tease him when necessary, haha! //Kris

  • @katsumotoamaya6540
    @katsumotoamaya6540 28 днів тому

    ❤💙❤💙❤💙❤💙❤💙❤Ein Hoch auf Wilhelm!❤ 💙❤💙❤💙❤💙❤💙❤

  • @yetimatzenightcat8702
    @yetimatzenightcat8702 28 днів тому

    Ich wünsch mir endlich equipment bei dem ich nix mehr machen muß, immer greifen...zupfen...greifen zupfen, pfffffffffffff...Radio hatte ich schon, iss kaputt 😂

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  27 днів тому +1

      Ich hab's! Was du suchst, heisst: Playback. 😆 Einige haben schon Erfahrung damit, scheint gut zu funktionieren, haha! //Kris

    • @yetimatzenightcat8702
      @yetimatzenightcat8702 27 днів тому

      @@ThomannsGuitarsBasses lololoooool 😅🌊🌊🌊..ja, einige 🤣... hab gehört manche schauen sich beim auftritt sogar die simpsons an auf'm monitor 😅

  • @joutynathan4168
    @joutynathan4168 27 днів тому

    Tbf i will not buy a guitar with regular tuners ever again, locking tuners and Headless hardware (the good ones) are just way more practical

  • @hisproperty1438
    @hisproperty1438 28 днів тому

    G'day guys,
    I don't think that the electric guitar, guitar amps, & guitar pedals have really evolved at all. If you look at what was available in other 50's items, such as cars, motorcycles, television, telephones, gramaphones, typewritters, aircraft, trucks, bicycles, compare them to the items that have (properly) evolved from them, and then compare that evolution to the electric guitar (etc), you'll wonder; "When will the electric guitar make its way out of the 20th Century?" I don't see such big changes to guitars as I do to other products. Now, whether I care about the lack of change is another question.
    And, do we need "another Tube Screamer"? I don't care. I've got a couple of Ibanez TS pedals, as well as a few versions by other companies. Sometimes I can tell the difference, and sometimes I can't. But that still doesn't matter. Just because I can't tell the difference between two TS pedals doesn't mean that everyone else can't hear or feel the difference either.
    I just play guitar, & collect guitar items, for the pleasure of it all. So, I don't take it so seriously that I pay attention to the complaints of others. Or, even my own complaints. Because, paying attention to complaints is an obstacle between me & music.
    Thanks for another great video.
    Keep up the good work
    Andrew

    • @ThomannsGuitarsBasses
      @ThomannsGuitarsBasses  27 днів тому +1

      Thanks for the comment Andrew! That's a really interesting comparison. It's funny how everything else changed that much since the 50s except for guitars (and musical instruments in general). I guess some original designs are too good to be fully overhauled. This also shows that guitars are not simply tools for us, otherwise nobody would mind radical changes in order to make them more ergonomic, light and stable. I love seeing crazy carbon body, headless guitars with some high-tech electronics, it gives people options. Still, most will dream of a 52 tele or a 59 Les Paul. 😆 Whatever makes you pick up the guitar and play more is the right choice, doesn't matter what others tell you. 🙌 //Kris

    • @hisproperty1438
      @hisproperty1438 27 днів тому

      Hey Kris. Yes, you're right - guitars aren't just tools for us. And yes, I do have two '52 style Teles, and one '57 style Strat. I just can't keep away from them. LOL

  • @matzer8846
    @matzer8846 28 днів тому

    YUP ... silent recording is THE TING 4me and i love all the new stuff coming out aiming@home/silent recording ....

  • @matzer8846
    @matzer8846 28 днів тому

    PUH ... its all about money and marketing 💰💸
    I do really hope this ain't end up like Kai Ebel talking 'bout the incredibly "exiting" F1 od some super boring Bayern socker events
    We are heading into hard times money wise and the big ones like the big T are devouring the not so big ones ...
    So why a new "screamer" .... it could be interesting for newbies and returning hobbyists or 4me stupid just liking the TS9 and maybe opting in 4 a TS9DX in the future ...