I hope it is either the last main game of the switch (late 2022) or on the same year of the launch of the switch 2 (or whatever it will be called) games (mid to late 2023)
The few telethia who are able to remember elements of their past and disobey Zanza? There is actually a pretty good analogy when considering telethia as individual cells of Zanza's body! Sometimes, our body's cells DO end up going rogue and doing their own thing. It is called cancer. By giving telethia minds of their own as high entia, he opened up the potential for cancerous telethia, which in turn helped Shulk and friends literally enter further into Zanza's body during the fight at Bionis Interior and ultimately fell the god.
Partially on topic with the video, me and a friend of mine had an argument about the "true power" of Malos. In Torna and in the last two chapters of XC2 he is stronger than Mythra, but weaker than Pneuma, his sword isn't made of pure energy (opposed to shulk's monado and pneuma sword), and while he can use mondado arts, he lacks many of the crazy abilities of the other two aegis, like visions of the future and reality warping beside "destroying stuff". From there the idea that he could have an ascended state like Mythra's Pneuma form. The argument we had was on the powers that the "Logos form" would have. I say that he would have the same abilities as Pneuma, because both of them in this form would control directly the conduit to do stuff, and it makes little sense that one can only use the conduit for doing certain things and not others. My friend says that, when they were only the processor that controlled the conduit, they had specialized roles (like different programs of a pc) so even in the blade form they can use the conduit only for some things and not for others. In favor of his theory there is the name to the three processor given before Klaus experiment, and naming a processor over his role in the computer makes sense. But then I say that all three of them could control every aspect of the conduit, simply splitting the job on three processor makes it easier than having only one. I'd like to know your opinion on this, maybe it can become a video? Or if you have already covered this topic in a previous video, can you tell me witch it is? If my english is potato I'm sorry, it is not my native language, even if I can read and listen to it easily I suck at speaking/writing it
@@albertomarcuzzi6711 It is really weird. I also found it jarring that Mythra had technically 3 forms and even her natural Mythra form that Adam used to defeat Malos was on par with him and potentially stronger. The original Xenoblade's 3 Monados were all on par with each other, Meyneth just lost cause she dedicated some of her power into keeping Fiora alive, which is why she lost, and Shulk won because of his skill, determination, and allies. But Xenoblade 2 just had such a clear power gap with Malos. He never really felt good enough to be the final villain to me. Even when you first meet him, Rex is able to counter his attack by himself. Like, I know he took severe damage in the first battle with Mythra, but it always felt like he should've had a true form too. Maybe he just didn't cause he didn't have a partner who he could bond with the way Mythra does with Rex, but it still felt...off. Simultaneously, Jin was able to keep up with Pneuma, largely. So how much stronger was Mythra, Pneuma and Malos supposed to be compared to the Flesh Eaters? I mean, the entire story felt like it had an issue with power and skill gaps that didn't always make sense. It felt like a lot of the story beats were based more on what would look cool than what made the most sense. Honestly, I love Xenoblade 1 and X, but 2 really left me with a bad taste in my mouth cause of this stuff
In my opinion the power tier goes like this, from top to bottom: Pneuma/Malos secret Logos form (complete control over the conduit, even stronger if they would work together), Jin (physic laws' breaker, has almost the same powers of the conduit), Mythra at the end of Torna (boost in raw power and can have vision of the future like Shulk, but not completely self-conscious), Malos in Torna/post chapter 7 (peak of is form, but hasn't complete access to the conduit, can only control artifices and use monado arts), Mythra during most of the games (is clearly slightly weaker than Malos), Nia, Malos at the start of the game (is basically a very very strong human driver that can sometimes create a dark aura around him, makes sense since the broken core cristal), other blades. Pyra is stronger than the average blades, but only because her flames aren't affected by water and she can control Siren. At the "rare blades" level the power tier is blur because it depends also on the driver the blade is bonded with. So at the peak of their power, the Aegis can do what they want, but during the game they are held back from various reasons. I didn't like the anime transformations for Nia and Jin either, and Luxin has already done a video on how absurd Jin's power is, but I guess they felt they had to follow the shonen anime tropes. For Malos true power, is somehow clear that he couldn't access it because he hadn't a partner like Pyra/Mythra that could help him, and it makes sense since collaboration between driver and blade is the core of the blade system. My personal problem is the nature of his "Logos Form", would have the exact same powers of Pneuma (my hypothesis) or only destruction-related ones (as a friend of mine says)? At the end of XC2 Malos is destroyed and the conduit disappears, so we won't ever have a canon answer in a future game, but it's fun to speculate on this. Sadly I never played X, and I agree that XC1 had a better plot than XC2. I still prefer XC2 thought, because the combat system was so much better (especially in Torna), and I liked the character more.
@@albertomarcuzzi6711 I can understand that. I know a lot of people who feel the same way, but, for some reason, I never really got into the battle system for 2. I don't like that there are big quick time prompts over the special moves, or the limited number of moves. I also just don't like how the defense system works. Like, I can't count the number of times I've lost cause I was playing as Rex and he got AOE one shot by an opponent right after I did a chain attack that didn't quite finish them off, and the only thing I felt like I could do to combat that was use a blade I didn't like, or abuse the crap out of the pouch items. Also, and this might just be me, but I was super disappointed when they introduced visions into the story, but didn't add them into the gameplay like 1. That was such a cool feature, and referencing it without incorporating it was such a disappointment for me. Like, I would've rather had them just not made the reference if they couldn't make it a part of the gameplay. So I liked 1 a bit better in that regard. I could build up each of the character's defenses, and I felt like they all played very differently from one another, and I felt like I could really do things to counter the enemies thanks to the visions. I also liked the characters on their own in 2 but not as a team... or Rex in any way shape or form. He's too OP protagonist who everyone loves because he's the protagonist-kun. I also felt like they undercut each others development at every step of the way, as a team. Rex's whole growth was basically to stop paying attention to anything that wasn't Pyra, and Zeke had all these moments of serious growth and guidance and every time he'd say something remotely wise, another character would jab at him for having something remotely intelligent to say. The characters didn't even realize that Morag was a girl. Like, it felt like they just had very superficial friendships to me. Which is weird, cause the game was designed around a "power of friendship" type of thing. That said, the villains were as fantastic as ever, I just wish we got more with the Flesh Eaters, cause they just kinda died eventually. Back to the power differences thing, you know what would've been a really cool way to explain Pneuma's power and how she was capable of reaching levels that Malos never could? If she was Adam's Flesh Eater. Could've been an amazing twist, Adam sacrificing himself so that Mythra would never return to her core and could stand up to any evil should it ever arise again. Granted, I am not talking about Torna here. Not at all. I have not yet played Torna, and I have heard that it's addressed a ton of my issues with the base Xenoblade 2, even running smoother. If you ever can get a Wii U, or a PC powerful enough to run the emulator, I totally recommend X. X doesn't have a good story (the lore is great, but the main storyline is a mess). But the affinity missions are the best in the series, the battle system is like 1 but it replaces the talent arts with a feature called overdrive that multiplies the power of arts and accelerates arts cooldown, and, if you're using a really good build, can go on infinitely. You can single-handedly take down some of the toughest bosses in the game like that by yourself. It's also super customize-able. If you love in game exploration and the RPG grind, X is for you. (though, it also does not have the vision system)
The gnosis from xenosega are the respective endbringers of that universe. You possibly count wilhelm or chaos as the singular endbringer as chaos is the reason the universe is ending and wilhelm is the one who tries to reset it.
I just noticed the parallel between the two super bosses names. One is the EndBringer and the other is the EverQueen. One suggesting the concept of transience and the other suggesting the concept of eternity. Not sure if that means anything in the lore but I think it's an interesting detail.
The Telethia in X actually spends it's time in Noctilum hunting the corrupted monsters, which fits well to what Lorithia says in XC, "that which eliminates impure life" This is now expanded upon in XC:Future Connected with the Telethia there also hunting Shadow Beasts.
Great video as always! I would love to see if they make an x2 the plot heavily revolve around Telithia vs. The Everqueen and how the queens rotting the planet the Gangleon after their defeat try to awaken the Everqueen to destroy NLA and planet Mira! It would be a fantastic story
If there’s an X2, the game should begin with Lao waking up in the desert and you playing as him. Telethia should definitely play a more active role in the story, with there being a bigger threat that it actually has to show up for to help the party. Maybe Pharsis, or maybe something Samaarian. Oh, and eventually something should kill Telethia in the late game.
I'll always wonder just what would the aegises be able to acomolish toguether since they were made to function as a unit after all, and seeing what pnuma malos and alvis are able to do seperatly, toguether in control they would be something
Spoilers The true form of the tornan titan looks a lot like the telethia from both XC1 and XCX and could certainly be described as an end bringer when it is not actively being subdued, so I do think torna counts actually
Man, I can't wait to get back to X. I'm studying abroad and had to leave my Wii U back home. I started hunting for the materials to finally get my Ares in December, but I barely even scratched the service before I had to leave for my semester. I go home in 1 month from now and I really can't wait to get back to it. I wanna finally learn how to take down the endbringer himself. Side note, did anyone else find the weapon creation tool in X to be really imbalanced? Like, some stuff was so hard to find, even in post-game it'd be difficult to make even the most basic versions of an augment or weapon, but some could be maxed out really early. Like, if you fill out the miranium mining points, you could get all the materials for TPXX really easily. Idk, maybe I'm just weird and I only had the ability to do that cause I went way overboard with my early game exploring (I completed like 40% of the world map before finishing the chapter that unlocks overdrive, which I did nearly 80 hours into the game). I just wish they rebalanced it so I could make some of the level 10 versions of those forged weapons when I was actually, ya know, around level 10. I also need to get Mia, cause I didn't realize I could unlock her and never did that. Crazy how you can put so much time into a game and, because you refuse to look stuff up through guides, there's major stuff that you just plain don't know about (lord knows I still would suck at the combat if I didn't accidentally come across a video on how infinite overdrive works lol. I would never get anywhere without Ghost Walker and True Stream Edge)
Hey, I want you to talk about a thought for a theory I had a little bit ago Nia, is actually an Urayan royal Remember Nia said her father was a noble? I was doing NG+ and a heart to heart in Argentum with Adenine and Zeke said how the urayan royal line is a similar case to the Tantalese royal family, they also said how the actual royals reside somewhere in Gormott which makes me think Nia is actually an Urayan royal 🧐
Man, you are so underated but I absolutely love your content. Please keep up the good work and never quite, your like the only person out their rn that actually makes good and thoughtfully xenoblade content. I'd support you on patron but I can't and I'm sorry..hopefully I will be able to one day but please don't quite man, your awsome!
@Francesco Simonetti future connected introduced rifts and creatures coming in and we can send things back too. In X it’s said that the telethia came from another dimension (the rift) . In xenoblade 2 for elmas missions she questions why her shulk and Rex are there. She questions the world tree because it’s similar to what she saw on earth but has no clue what the world tree is. So if there is multiple universes which the game is trying to say maybe the experiment in xenoblade 1 ripped the universe into multiple universes. Maybe Mira is a place where things that were not placed anywhere go. A type of purgatory. The ganglion say that they saw a flash and they arrived on Mira. The experiment in 1 causes a flash.
Perfectly Theorie! I Love Xenoblade for such Theories. While I like the Idea between the Battle of the Endbringer and Pharis it could also be that the Telethia in X wiped out Life on a World before Pharis landed. Then it would have a much bigger Connection to Mira, when it "recreated" it? Maybe it is an explanation why the Lifeforms on Mira are way different beside some Special cases Like the Nopon (but those also evolved a Bit differently than in 1 and 2). Because they are not formed by something that was created by Zanza/Klaus but from something completly different. So the question is from where the telethia comes or who created it. So many questions, we definitly need an X Sequel or Prequel (Samaarians :3) to explain more!
I just had a cool idea for a video: A Xenoblade battle royale between all the party members. That does sound like it would be quite hard to make though, just a suggestion
Malos likely gave himself that name; much like Mythra and Alvis, the Aegises seem particularly suceptible to being affected by their driver's personality, most likely because unlike most other Blades each of them has only had one awakening, and since Malos had the misfortune of being awakened by Amalthus he's just as edgy as his driver.
And it's not just Xenoblade that follows this trope either, it's been going since Gears. Obvious Gears and Saga spoilers coming. For Gears, the endbringer would pretty clearly be Miang. She has literally wiped out nearly the entire human population of the Gears planet on at least 5 seperate occasions, though it is very likely more. Her entire existence is dedicated to sacrificing humans to become parts for Deus, though I suppose you could argue that Deus was the one causing all the destruction in the first place. She also fits with a trend the endbringers have of being the same no matter what era it is, with the whole idea of her reincarnating in different bodies. There's literally an entire video Luxin made on Miang that explains her entire thing pretty well, so yeah. Saga's endbringer isn't as clear, there's definitely an argument for the Gnosis, but personally I think the endbringer would actually be Chaos, making him by far the most unique one in the series since he's actually working alongside the main characters. His whole thing is he's supposed to destroy the lower parts of the universe (where people live) if it will save the upper parts (where god stuff lives) to ensure the survival of the universe. I just find it cool this trope has been around for so long.
Looking back now that Xenoblade 3 is out... It's really interesting that the roles are reversed; our main party want to bring an end to the world, while the villains are literally stopping time to prevent an end. I know you made a video about this but it's still really interesting.
I think we all need to keep in mind that Malos has an ego the size of multiple titans, so him calling himself "The Endbringer" might just be him trashtalking the party like Lin aggroes Tyrants in XCX.
However, lin is such an ass that she only has to say "trash talk" and all the enemies already know what burns are going to hit them (the game censors them) and already want lin to piss off.
I wonder what is the xcx telethia title, cause I i think that endbringer was a localization only for the English, since the title in spanish is "La dueña del destino" same as the way the nopon refers to her. I think "endbringer" sounded better than "owner of fates" to the localization team and that's why we hace it like that, no necessary lore in between :/
You mentioned that the Ovah infected indigens. They were visigels, specifically. Visigels are the only creatures shown to dwell near Pharsis, the Everqueen. Perhaps the Ovah is compatible with an Yggralith? What if the Orphe could communicate with Yggraliths?
Just rewatched this video and, now that we have Future Connected, it gave me an idea (which might be kind of unrelated to the video though) But what if Telethia, the Endbringer came from the FC universe after it went into the Fogking's rift above Alcamoth to defeat it? The Telethia could have ended up on Mira. That could also be an explanation for why it attacks The Endbringer attcks tainted indigenes, those indigenes might be Fogbeasts. Maybe the Fogking originated from Mira (or maybe even from the Ghost).
If you check the collectables in Cauldros in Chronicles X you can see there is a statue of the Bionis and Mechonis as an item. It's entirely feasible Mira itself was created when the worlds were mashed around once before. Also in a early boss fight Tatsu references the "legendary" Frontier Village and another quest has the Sword of Legendaryness, a Nopon themed Monado.
Dude,I have a really cool idea for a theory.What if a driver died and the blade returns to the core crystal BUT the driver somehow gets revived(like Nial) and awakens the SAME blade.(like Aegeon in my example)
Spoiler XC3 Revisiting this video bc Ouroboros literally abhor the world, and they end it, using the sword of the end. So the end bringers of this game are the Ouroboros.
SPOILERS AHEAD FOR DRAGALIA LOST There is also a trinity in Dragalia Lost: the dragon Elysium, the goddess Illia, and the demon Morsayati. In the game's distant past, Illia and Elysium worked together to seal Morsayti away after the opening of a dimensional portal let him out along with an army of fiends. However, in the game's present, Zethia (who is generally considered to be the reincarnation of Illia) is possessed by the Other (who is possibly Morsayati), leaving the main character (who might be a reincarnation of Elysium) to fend against the other two alone. It's pretty obvious to see why Morsayati deserves the title Endbringer. He just wants to conquer the Dragalia Lost universe.
Dude, I feel that. I've been trying to find a way just to touch that thing for ages. I've still only got my level 50 skells, no ares or anything above what can be bought in the shop. I've been trying to fight the end game/post-game tyrants for ages, but they all wreck me. I've had no clue how to move forward for ages and have just been relying on the rewards tickets to get everything I need for an Ares
I have been using princess lilah. I’m using disk bombs for TP, Phoenix for taking out the grunts, and M-missiles for targeting The appendages. Im also thermal reflection XX and ether resistance XX 3 of them. The telethia only does 1 or 2 damage on the first face but on the second I have no idea where the damage is coming from? I’m working on adding thermal damage up (it only goes on the frame) and not sure if I should add reflect for other types of damages or what.
@@Chronoflation Counter intuitivly, it's actually smarter to kill it with a ground based build. You dont even need all that mugh- about 400 accuracy of either stat and some reflect augments + a reflect aura. I think Raijin is the best aura, and it's on the javelin which comes with Overwhelm, one of the better TP regaining arts in X. But you'll want some high hit count ranged moves to burn through telethia's aura in the final phase, then switch back to the melee attacks, for which you'd hopefully have high accuracy and damage. Other reflect weapons would be the Shield using Supershield and the Photon Saber using Astrolibrium. It's all about preference from that point.
@@scarfking1579 I have the Javelin with most of the arts upgraded. I've been using the broadsword and dual guns most recently, utilizing Ghost Walker, True Stream Edge and, I believe Defensive Stance. Excuse me if I'm a bit off on that, I haven't played for over 4 months now cause I'm doing a study abroad and couldn't bring my Wii U with me. But yeah, I think those are my 3 main weapons. I always have trouble figuring out how to stay alive in Xenoblade games. I guess cause I don't really use the defensive gems and augments a lot. I don't like having to change my build for every enemy I want to face, but I guess when you're going up against the big bosses you need every aid you can get. My main issue is, I wasted a ton of AP on early game arts that I got and now I get so little AP from even enemies that are tough for me, I don't know who I should fight that will be realistic for me with all of my best arts at only at level 2 or 3. Though, I do have overwhelm at 5, I think. Maybe I can go back to the Javelin and learn how to play with that
It's possible to beat it with a low level skell with a lot of agility, but I go the route of using maximum possible damage Zenith Cannon and a truck load of potential to activate Driver Mode to three shot it, sometimes before it even initiates the second phase.
Endbringer!??...if that's mean his can be finished very quickly, than yes!..the easiest boss trough entire game! All the game blabling about how cool hi is, and I'm finished him so quickly!?.. very disappointed about you Malos!!.. you and Aion, I'm expecting much more.
"Those who Bring the End." Hm. Sounds like a fitting name for Xenoblade 3's boss theme.
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Agreed
@@MrLee64 Indeed
I hope it is either the last main game of the switch (late 2022) or on the same year of the launch of the switch 2 (or whatever it will be called) games (mid to late 2023)
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The few telethia who are able to remember elements of their past and disobey Zanza? There is actually a pretty good analogy when considering telethia as individual cells of Zanza's body! Sometimes, our body's cells DO end up going rogue and doing their own thing.
It is called cancer.
By giving telethia minds of their own as high entia, he opened up the potential for cancerous telethia, which in turn helped Shulk and friends literally enter further into Zanza's body during the fight at Bionis Interior and ultimately fell the god.
In Greek, Telethia (spelled τεληθια) actually means: “The End”. Just thought I’d share cause it adds up to the video.
Nice
Wait really? I just 5ought it was derived from telepethi because they can read your mind
I am greek, this word does not ring any bells
If Telethia, the Endbringer fought Pharsis, the Everqueen in Xenoblade X 2, it would be called "Xenoblade X2: The End Of The World.
Partially on topic with the video, me and a friend of mine had an argument about the "true power" of Malos. In Torna and in the last two chapters of XC2 he is stronger than Mythra, but weaker than Pneuma, his sword isn't made of pure energy (opposed to shulk's monado and pneuma sword), and while he can use mondado arts, he lacks many of the crazy abilities of the other two aegis, like visions of the future and reality warping beside "destroying stuff". From there the idea that he could have an ascended state like Mythra's Pneuma form.
The argument we had was on the powers that the "Logos form" would have. I say that he would have the same abilities as Pneuma, because both of them in this form would control directly the conduit to do stuff, and it makes little sense that one can only use the conduit for doing certain things and not others. My friend says that, when they were only the processor that controlled the conduit, they had specialized roles (like different programs of a pc) so even in the blade form they can use the conduit only for some things and not for others. In favor of his theory there is the name to the three processor given before Klaus experiment, and naming a processor over his role in the computer makes sense. But then I say that all three of them could control every aspect of the conduit, simply splitting the job on three processor makes it easier than having only one.
I'd like to know your opinion on this, maybe it can become a video? Or if you have already covered this topic in a previous video, can you tell me witch it is?
If my english is potato I'm sorry, it is not my native language, even if I can read and listen to it easily I suck at speaking/writing it
Your writing was actually very competent. Far more than the internet average. Good on you for learning a second language so well
Thank you, I don't do a lot of practice so I'm always afraid of making stupid mistakes.
What is your opinion on the "Malos true power" problem?
@@albertomarcuzzi6711 It is really weird. I also found it jarring that Mythra had technically 3 forms and even her natural Mythra form that Adam used to defeat Malos was on par with him and potentially stronger. The original Xenoblade's 3 Monados were all on par with each other, Meyneth just lost cause she dedicated some of her power into keeping Fiora alive, which is why she lost, and Shulk won because of his skill, determination, and allies. But Xenoblade 2 just had such a clear power gap with Malos. He never really felt good enough to be the final villain to me. Even when you first meet him, Rex is able to counter his attack by himself. Like, I know he took severe damage in the first battle with Mythra, but it always felt like he should've had a true form too. Maybe he just didn't cause he didn't have a partner who he could bond with the way Mythra does with Rex, but it still felt...off.
Simultaneously, Jin was able to keep up with Pneuma, largely. So how much stronger was Mythra, Pneuma and Malos supposed to be compared to the Flesh Eaters? I mean, the entire story felt like it had an issue with power and skill gaps that didn't always make sense. It felt like a lot of the story beats were based more on what would look cool than what made the most sense. Honestly, I love Xenoblade 1 and X, but 2 really left me with a bad taste in my mouth cause of this stuff
In my opinion the power tier goes like this, from top to bottom: Pneuma/Malos secret Logos form (complete control over the conduit, even stronger if they would work together), Jin (physic laws' breaker, has almost the same powers of the conduit), Mythra at the end of Torna (boost in raw power and can have vision of the future like Shulk, but not completely self-conscious), Malos in Torna/post chapter 7 (peak of is form, but hasn't complete access to the conduit, can only control artifices and use monado arts), Mythra during most of the games (is clearly slightly weaker than Malos), Nia, Malos at the start of the game (is basically a very very strong human driver that can sometimes create a dark aura around him, makes sense since the broken core cristal), other blades. Pyra is stronger than the average blades, but only because her flames aren't affected by water and she can control Siren. At the "rare blades" level the power tier is blur because it depends also on the driver the blade is bonded with. So at the peak of their power, the Aegis can do what they want, but during the game they are held back from various reasons.
I didn't like the anime transformations for Nia and Jin either, and Luxin has already done a video on how absurd Jin's power is, but I guess they felt they had to follow the shonen anime tropes.
For Malos true power, is somehow clear that he couldn't access it because he hadn't a partner like Pyra/Mythra that could help him, and it makes sense since collaboration between driver and blade is the core of the blade system. My personal problem is the nature of his "Logos Form", would have the exact same powers of Pneuma (my hypothesis) or only destruction-related ones (as a friend of mine says)? At the end of XC2 Malos is destroyed and the conduit disappears, so we won't ever have a canon answer in a future game, but it's fun to speculate on this.
Sadly I never played X, and I agree that XC1 had a better plot than XC2. I still prefer XC2 thought, because the combat system was so much better (especially in Torna), and I liked the character more.
@@albertomarcuzzi6711 I can understand that. I know a lot of people who feel the same way, but, for some reason, I never really got into the battle system for 2. I don't like that there are big quick time prompts over the special moves, or the limited number of moves. I also just don't like how the defense system works. Like, I can't count the number of times I've lost cause I was playing as Rex and he got AOE one shot by an opponent right after I did a chain attack that didn't quite finish them off, and the only thing I felt like I could do to combat that was use a blade I didn't like, or abuse the crap out of the pouch items.
Also, and this might just be me, but I was super disappointed when they introduced visions into the story, but didn't add them into the gameplay like 1. That was such a cool feature, and referencing it without incorporating it was such a disappointment for me. Like, I would've rather had them just not made the reference if they couldn't make it a part of the gameplay.
So I liked 1 a bit better in that regard. I could build up each of the character's defenses, and I felt like they all played very differently from one another, and I felt like I could really do things to counter the enemies thanks to the visions.
I also liked the characters on their own in 2 but not as a team... or Rex in any way shape or form. He's too OP protagonist who everyone loves because he's the protagonist-kun. I also felt like they undercut each others development at every step of the way, as a team. Rex's whole growth was basically to stop paying attention to anything that wasn't Pyra, and Zeke had all these moments of serious growth and guidance and every time he'd say something remotely wise, another character would jab at him for having something remotely intelligent to say. The characters didn't even realize that Morag was a girl. Like, it felt like they just had very superficial friendships to me. Which is weird, cause the game was designed around a "power of friendship" type of thing. That said, the villains were as fantastic as ever, I just wish we got more with the Flesh Eaters, cause they just kinda died eventually.
Back to the power differences thing, you know what would've been a really cool way to explain Pneuma's power and how she was capable of reaching levels that Malos never could? If she was Adam's Flesh Eater. Could've been an amazing twist, Adam sacrificing himself so that Mythra would never return to her core and could stand up to any evil should it ever arise again.
Granted, I am not talking about Torna here. Not at all. I have not yet played Torna, and I have heard that it's addressed a ton of my issues with the base Xenoblade 2, even running smoother.
If you ever can get a Wii U, or a PC powerful enough to run the emulator, I totally recommend X. X doesn't have a good story (the lore is great, but the main storyline is a mess). But the affinity missions are the best in the series, the battle system is like 1 but it replaces the talent arts with a feature called overdrive that multiplies the power of arts and accelerates arts cooldown, and, if you're using a really good build, can go on infinitely. You can single-handedly take down some of the toughest bosses in the game like that by yourself. It's also super customize-able. If you love in game exploration and the RPG grind, X is for you. (though, it also does not have the vision system)
The gnosis from xenosega are the respective endbringers of that universe. You possibly count wilhelm or chaos as the singular endbringer as chaos is the reason the universe is ending and wilhelm is the one who tries to reset it.
Holy crap, now I want to see the battle between Telethia and the Yggralith
I just noticed the parallel between the two super bosses names. One is the EndBringer and the other is the EverQueen. One suggesting the concept of transience and the other suggesting the concept of eternity.
Not sure if that means anything in the lore but I think it's an interesting detail.
It might be a reference to Anima and Animus from Xenogears and Xenosaga, or the Contact and Antitype
Malos is Telethia, the Endbringer confirmed
Not only is end bringer a cool name it even has a awesome theme to go with it which I might add seems very fitting for it.
The endbringer remind me of Rayquaza
Edit( deoxy's is the impure life)
Especially with ending the battle between Groudon and Kyogre
The Telethia in X actually spends it's time in Noctilum hunting the corrupted monsters, which fits well to what Lorithia says in XC, "that which eliminates impure life"
This is now expanded upon in XC:Future Connected with the Telethia there also hunting Shadow Beasts.
Interesting how in xenoblade 3 the player is the end bringer, you end the "eternal now"
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This and all the others
Damn I need to play X again... I love that music
Glad there’s still people out there making xenoblade videos
So they are basically the Executioners from Star Ocean 3.
I heard “A Tragic Decision” in the first few minutes
Great video as always! I would love to see if they make an x2 the plot heavily revolve around Telithia vs. The Everqueen and how the queens rotting the planet the Gangleon after their defeat try to awaken the Everqueen to destroy NLA and planet Mira! It would be a fantastic story
Ooh, I would love that. The lore found in X is incredible. It would be amazing to see it incorporated into the main story like that in a sequel!
@@Chronoflation yeah I definitely agree! the more I think about this story scenario the more I wish it will happen
If there’s an X2, the game should begin with Lao waking up in the desert and you playing as him.
Telethia should definitely play a more active role in the story, with there being a bigger threat that it actually has to show up for to help the party. Maybe Pharsis, or maybe something Samaarian. Oh, and eventually something should kill Telethia in the late game.
What about Finch: The Endbringer?
Finch is the bringer of life.
holy shit, I had never noticed that feedback loop thing. That's amazing!
I'll always wonder just what would the aegises be able to acomolish toguether since they were made to function as a unit after all, and seeing what pnuma malos and alvis are able to do seperatly, toguether in control they would be something
Spoilers
The true form of the tornan titan looks a lot like the telethia from both XC1 and XCX and could certainly be described as an end bringer when it is not actively being subdued, so I do think torna counts actually
8:56 Claus is the ORIGINAL,it is ZANZA who is the "Alternative version".
LARS Liljeberg facts
More "other half"
Man, I can't wait to get back to X. I'm studying abroad and had to leave my Wii U back home. I started hunting for the materials to finally get my Ares in December, but I barely even scratched the service before I had to leave for my semester. I go home in 1 month from now and I really can't wait to get back to it. I wanna finally learn how to take down the endbringer himself.
Side note, did anyone else find the weapon creation tool in X to be really imbalanced? Like, some stuff was so hard to find, even in post-game it'd be difficult to make even the most basic versions of an augment or weapon, but some could be maxed out really early. Like, if you fill out the miranium mining points, you could get all the materials for TPXX really easily. Idk, maybe I'm just weird and I only had the ability to do that cause I went way overboard with my early game exploring (I completed like 40% of the world map before finishing the chapter that unlocks overdrive, which I did nearly 80 hours into the game). I just wish they rebalanced it so I could make some of the level 10 versions of those forged weapons when I was actually, ya know, around level 10. I also need to get Mia, cause I didn't realize I could unlock her and never did that. Crazy how you can put so much time into a game and, because you refuse to look stuff up through guides, there's major stuff that you just plain don't know about (lord knows I still would suck at the combat if I didn't accidentally come across a video on how infinite overdrive works lol. I would never get anywhere without Ghost Walker and True Stream Edge)
Hey, I want you to talk about a thought for a theory I had a little bit ago
Nia, is actually an Urayan royal
Remember Nia said her father was a noble?
I was doing NG+ and a heart to heart in Argentum with Adenine and Zeke said how the urayan royal line is a similar case to the Tantalese royal family, they also said how the actual royals reside somewhere in Gormott which makes me think Nia is actually an Urayan royal 🧐
InkLlama yea she has no biological family but it's still a thought to think her "father" might actually be an Urayan royal
InkLlama Argentum teleport to central exchange it's a shop right be there
If your looking for it it's called "walking encyclopedia"
That’s actually super interesting
Her father was chief of Torigoth, correct me if I am wrong (chapter 7)
Man, you are so underated but I absolutely love your content. Please keep up the good work and never quite, your like the only person out their rn that actually makes good and thoughtfully xenoblade content. I'd support you on patron but I can't and I'm sorry..hopefully I will be able to one day but please don't quite man, your awsome!
I just don’t understand why there is a Telethia in X
Probably just to reference the first game
why not?
Future connected answered that
@@ShadowSkyX how exactly?
@Francesco Simonetti future connected introduced rifts and creatures coming in and we can send things back too. In X it’s said that the telethia came from another dimension (the rift) . In xenoblade 2 for elmas missions she questions why her shulk and Rex are there. She questions the world tree because it’s similar to what she saw on earth but has no clue what the world tree is. So if there is multiple universes which the game is trying to say maybe the experiment in xenoblade 1 ripped the universe into multiple universes. Maybe Mira is a place where things that were not placed anywhere go. A type of purgatory. The ganglion say that they saw a flash and they arrived on Mira. The experiment in 1 causes a flash.
Can you make a video about the mechons pls ?
Perfectly Theorie! I Love Xenoblade for such Theories. While I like the Idea between the Battle of the Endbringer and Pharis it could also be that the Telethia in X wiped out Life on a World before Pharis landed. Then it would have a much bigger Connection to Mira, when it "recreated" it? Maybe it is an explanation why the Lifeforms on Mira are way different beside some Special cases Like the Nopon (but those also evolved a Bit differently than in 1 and 2). Because they are not formed by something that was created by Zanza/Klaus but from something completly different. So the question is from where the telethia comes or who created it. So many questions, we definitly need an X Sequel or Prequel (Samaarians :3) to explain more!
You are awesome Luxin
4:03 NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO SHOW ME THIS BOSS.
I just had a cool idea for a video: A Xenoblade battle royale between all the party members. That does sound like it would be quite hard to make though, just a suggestion
If youre talking about from all games then obviously shulk would win if he had the monado (in its form that allows to harm humans)
Malos likely gave himself that name; much like Mythra and Alvis, the Aegises seem particularly suceptible to being affected by their driver's personality, most likely because unlike most other Blades each of them has only had one awakening, and since Malos had the misfortune of being awakened by Amalthus he's just as edgy as his driver.
And it's not just Xenoblade that follows this trope either, it's been going since Gears. Obvious Gears and Saga spoilers coming.
For Gears, the endbringer would pretty clearly be Miang. She has literally wiped out nearly the entire human population of the Gears planet on at least 5 seperate occasions, though it is very likely more. Her entire existence is dedicated to sacrificing humans to become parts for Deus, though I suppose you could argue that Deus was the one causing all the destruction in the first place. She also fits with a trend the endbringers have of being the same no matter what era it is, with the whole idea of her reincarnating in different bodies. There's literally an entire video Luxin made on Miang that explains her entire thing pretty well, so yeah.
Saga's endbringer isn't as clear, there's definitely an argument for the Gnosis, but personally I think the endbringer would actually be Chaos, making him by far the most unique one in the series since he's actually working alongside the main characters. His whole thing is he's supposed to destroy the lower parts of the universe (where people live) if it will save the upper parts (where god stuff lives) to ensure the survival of the universe.
I just find it cool this trope has been around for so long.
Wouldn't that make the seraphs better telethia stand-ins as they basically undergo the same changes as the high entia?
I wonder if Telethia the Endbringer from X has more lore that's canon to X from before the redesign, which means that we won't it until X2 happens.
Looking back now that Xenoblade 3 is out...
It's really interesting that the roles are reversed; our main party want to bring an end to the world, while the villains are literally stopping time to prevent an end. I know you made a video about this but it's still really interesting.
7:45 that's my jam
Just putting the ost name here for anyone who wants it: Unfinished Battle
I think we all need to keep in mind that Malos has an ego the size of multiple titans, so him calling himself "The Endbringer" might just be him trashtalking the party like Lin aggroes Tyrants in XCX.
However, lin is such an ass that she only has to say "trash talk" and all the enemies already know what burns are going to hit them (the game censors them) and already want lin to piss off.
Underrated comment.
18:32 I think you meant in Olethro Ruins
No he measn the cliffs of morytha
Meh-meh, have secret intel...next Xeno game will have Nopon Enbringer. Nopon pinky-swear! Will make pants of player wet.
I wonder what is the xcx telethia title, cause I i think that endbringer was a localization only for the English, since the title in spanish is "La dueña del destino" same as the way the nopon refers to her. I think "endbringer" sounded better than "owner of fates" to the localization team and that's why we hace it like that, no necessary lore in between :/
You needed worthy opponents.
Ok but what about when alvis says that he was there at the beginning and he will proclaim the end or whatever the quote was
he’s ontos
You mentioned that the Ovah infected indigens. They were visigels, specifically. Visigels are the only creatures shown to dwell near Pharsis, the Everqueen. Perhaps the Ovah is compatible with an Yggralith? What if the Orphe could communicate with Yggraliths?
Anyone else think that if monoliths next game is another XBC game, that the red dragon is a telethia?
Wait could the Fogbeasts from FC and the Tainted from XcX be the same type of creature
Just rewatched this video and, now that we have Future Connected, it gave me an idea (which might be kind of unrelated to the video though)
But what if Telethia, the Endbringer came from the FC universe after it went into the Fogking's rift above Alcamoth to defeat it? The Telethia could have ended up on Mira. That could also be an explanation for why it attacks The Endbringer attcks tainted indigenes, those indigenes might be Fogbeasts.
Maybe the Fogking originated from Mira (or maybe even from the Ghost).
If you check the collectables in Cauldros in Chronicles X you can see there is a statue of the Bionis and Mechonis as an item. It's entirely feasible Mira itself was created when the worlds were mashed around once before.
Also in a early boss fight Tatsu references the "legendary" Frontier Village and another quest has the Sword of Legendaryness, a Nopon themed Monado.
And also Endbringer is a cool name 8)
These titles man.
Having just got XC2 I should really stop watching these spoiler videos before I play it, but hey, you just make really good videos.
Dude,I have a really cool idea for a theory.What if a driver died and the blade returns to the core crystal BUT the driver somehow gets revived(like Nial) and awakens the SAME blade.(like Aegeon in my example)
So the Telethia is like the white blood cells of the body of Mira or the Titans right?
Is it just me, or does Telethia the Endbringer look a lot like Ultima Weapon?
#givemebackmypneuma
Spoiler XC3
Revisiting this video bc Ouroboros literally abhor the world, and they end it, using the sword of the end. So the end bringers of this game are the Ouroboros.
I'm a simple man, I see malos, I click
What arguments are on the skell
SPOILERS AHEAD FOR DRAGALIA LOST
There is also a trinity in Dragalia Lost: the dragon Elysium, the goddess Illia, and the demon Morsayati. In the game's distant past, Illia and Elysium worked together to seal Morsayti away after the opening of a dimensional portal let him out along with an army of fiends. However, in the game's present, Zethia (who is generally considered to be the reincarnation of Illia) is possessed by the Other (who is possibly Morsayati), leaving the main character (who might be a reincarnation of Elysium) to fend against the other two alone.
It's pretty obvious to see why Morsayati deserves the title Endbringer. He just wants to conquer the Dragalia Lost universe.
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I wanna fight the telethia in Xenoblade x how do I deal with the telethia taking my TP So how do I stop it from doing that
Dude, I feel that. I've been trying to find a way just to touch that thing for ages. I've still only got my level 50 skells, no ares or anything above what can be bought in the shop. I've been trying to fight the end game/post-game tyrants for ages, but they all wreck me. I've had no clue how to move forward for ages and have just been relying on the rewards tickets to get everything I need for an Ares
I have been using princess lilah. I’m using disk bombs for TP, Phoenix for taking out the grunts, and M-missiles for targeting The appendages. Im also thermal reflection XX and ether resistance XX 3 of them. The telethia only does 1 or 2 damage on the first face but on the second I have no idea where the damage is coming from? I’m working on adding thermal damage up (it only goes on the frame) and not sure if I should add reflect for other types of damages or what.
@@Chronoflation Counter intuitivly, it's actually smarter to kill it with a ground based build. You dont even need all that mugh- about 400 accuracy of either stat and some reflect augments + a reflect aura. I think Raijin is the best aura, and it's on the javelin which comes with Overwhelm, one of the better TP regaining arts in X. But you'll want some high hit count ranged moves to burn through telethia's aura in the final phase, then switch back to the melee attacks, for which you'd hopefully have high accuracy and damage. Other reflect weapons would be the Shield using Supershield and the Photon Saber using Astrolibrium. It's all about preference from that point.
@@scarfking1579 I have the Javelin with most of the arts upgraded. I've been using the broadsword and dual guns most recently, utilizing Ghost Walker, True Stream Edge and, I believe Defensive Stance. Excuse me if I'm a bit off on that, I haven't played for over 4 months now cause I'm doing a study abroad and couldn't bring my Wii U with me. But yeah, I think those are my 3 main weapons. I always have trouble figuring out how to stay alive in Xenoblade games. I guess cause I don't really use the defensive gems and augments a lot. I don't like having to change my build for every enemy I want to face, but I guess when you're going up against the big bosses you need every aid you can get. My main issue is, I wasted a ton of AP on early game arts that I got and now I get so little AP from even enemies that are tough for me, I don't know who I should fight that will be realistic for me with all of my best arts at only at level 2 or 3. Though, I do have overwhelm at 5, I think. Maybe I can go back to the Javelin and learn how to play with that
It's possible to beat it with a low level skell with a lot of agility, but I go the route of using maximum possible damage Zenith Cannon and a truck load of potential to activate Driver Mode to three shot it, sometimes before it even initiates the second phase.
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Endbringer!??...if that's mean his can be finished very quickly, than yes!..the easiest boss trough entire game! All the game blabling about how cool hi is, and I'm finished him so quickly!?.. very disappointed about you Malos!!.. you and Aion, I'm expecting much more.
Actually he was easy until his one shot attack :p
X's endbringer is the only one to properly hold up the title
Aion has a 1 hit kill AOE attack that WILL occur if he doesn’t die fast enough.
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You forget that Noah is an unofficial “Endbringer”. Just saying. ^_^
This video was uploaded in 2019.
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