Have people SERIOUSLY complained that the ending was "all for nothing?" IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE WENT INTO GOLDEN COUNTRY KNOWING THERE'D BE NO HAPPY ENDING!
Actually I think that Torna's ending is better because the main characters felt loss and didn't get everything given back to them at the end like nothing happened like the main game ending did. Seriously why did they have to ruin the emotional moment where she sacrifices herself, and why does no one else complain about it?
Seriously. Every time I marveled at the world building, I ended every thought with, "Wow, these are some of the best definitely soon-to-be-dead characters ever!"
-Zer0 My only main complaint is my plan to kill Pyra/Mythra so Nia could hook up Rex failed since they were revived by Core Crystal. (when I really think about it, that could have easily solved the whole Waifu War by having those two dead...… Yay.... I'm thinking like a horrible human being especially since Nia sees Pyra/Mythra as her best friend)
@@cantbelieveIneedtwousernames I felt the same exact way. I felt they had it going so well, with a tragic ending, then they confused it all with the after credits sequence.
Dont even compare it to the Aegis, The eye of shining justice is SO much stronger then the aegis, He could've killed Malos EASILY, but realized his power would also result in other disasters. It was very hard for him to restrain his power, you know?
Seeing Lora and Haze die in X2 before having played Torna : "Never really knew them, but that's sad I suppose." Seeing Lora and Haze die after playing Torna: *Lie down, try not to try, cry a lot*
The same argument could be made for Nia. I think it makes him special that he wasn't directly affected by the Torna heroes. The world they created inspired him to become a driver.
@@killerbean6806 You don't get any more "hentai" beyond what you probably already seen. supporting this game means showing Nintendo we want more high budget games
You forgot one more legacy of Hugo: to honor the emperor of Mor Ardain during the Aegis War, the Ardanian military officially adopted his battle cry of "Don't forget me!" Unfortunately, with the passage of time this has condensed to just "Don't forget!", but even 500 years later every rank-and-file member of Mor Ardain's military pays tribute to Hugo. Dammit, Monolith, if you just left "DON'T FORGET ME" the way it originally was, this joke would've worked perfectly...
Torna Legacy in a nutshell: Haze and Mikhail become victims of Amalthus’ machinations. Brighid and Aegeaon become entirely different people (kind of), Hugo, Milton and Mikhail sacrifice themselves. Minoth becomes a storyteller as well as running an orphanage, Jin gets to see Lora again (I swear I’m not crying), Addam dies with a hope for the world and a new driver for the Aegis, and Mythra gets Rex’s- Mythra: Shut up!
Brighid doesn't become different at all. Jin even tells her that directly as he leaves the main cast in Morithya. He did say she'd changed before, but he was lying then.
Minoth also was implied to have been a mercenary. Vandham mentions that he and Minoth used to work together and that Minoth was really strong. So we can assume that a few decades prior to the events of base game that Minoth was still fit and active.
I tried so hard not to cry during Torna. But it got me. Especially when Hugo died (I dunno why, but I really liked his character) and then right at the end when you see Rex about to awaken Pyra. That got me. Hard.
Playing this game made me forget that torna was doomed, and right before I beat it I remembered that the continent sank and just said: oh... wait a second....
I realized that Vandham is Urayan equivalent of Morag and Zeke (and Addam), since he has noble blood and his second-in-command can be seen with the Queen multiple times after his death. That would also mean Roc would be an equivalent of Jin, Brighid, and Pandoria.
Actually the grave sites in Gormott are at the bottom of toxic water being dumped by the Torigoth Base Entrance, I have taken screen shots were the grave sites are located on the mini map and compare it to the main game map, they both line up where the Nor Ardain base at Gormott dumps the toxic water. Mor Ardain must really love the Gormottie...
@@nikotechtv3441 just take screen shots in the area of the gormott grave site with the mini map enlarged and compare it to the main game map and you will see it line up with there the toxic water being dumped
I wish this game never ended. It’s been the best. I still have to 100% the main game but I wish the story was longer. This was my first Xenoblade and Xeno game and I’m not ready to embrace a new set of characters. I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to, all of these characters are love-able, fun and just the best. They really know how to make great characters with great back stories that all tie together in some way at one point in time. I love Xenoblade❤️💞💕
I am in the same boat as you and I have never experienced such a masterpiece of a story/game/soundtrack and I don't think I ever will again. I am also not ready to let these characters go so here's to hoping for a Xenoblade 3!
I know Milton was created and written after the main game, but I wish that somehow, he could be referenced. He's the entire reason that Mythra broke and created Pyra, yet he's never mentioned. I know it wouldn't work without changing stuff, it's just that it's a little weird that after playing Torna, then playing the main game, Milton is never brought up, and makes him seem kind of forgotten. EDIT: After hearing your preferred ending to XC2, I thought "what if they did what they did with Xenosaga: A Missing Year," where it shows the characters after the events of XC2? All they'd need to do is warn of spoilers before the beginning of each episode. While I'd prefer it to be actually animated, showing all the characters together just living and enjoying the eternal peace they won would be amazing. It could really make for a fun Slice of Life anime, too!
the funny thing is that torna is like playing crisis core you already know the ending if you played ff7, the point of torna is the journey not the destination
@@dantelawrence4676 I agree with some of the games. FF 14’s story gives me the same feelings as Xenoblade 1 and 2 do though, and I consider it my number 2 game, wedged between XC1 first and XC2 third. (FF7’s hellishly overrated though, I’d also argue 6 is as well.)
Nice video, ties everything from the main game and the DLC up nicely. Probably my favorite of your videos so far! I like your photo idea. Expanding on it, Mythra could have handed her copy (that she would've gotten from Cole back in Fonsa Myma) to the dying Jin, after he killed Amalthus. Acting as a way to tell Jin that this new group reminds her of old Torna and that they share its ideals, that they will carry on its legacy and take up the torch from here on out. That it is okay for him to finally move on and find peace now (and, possibly, finally be reunited with Lora.) Would have made that whole scene even more impactful imo.
Wait... People were actually complaining about the ending? They knew what they were signing up fot though! At least... Most people since I'm assuming most people played the base game first. However for those who picked up Torna first and then the base game, I could somewhat understand. Edit: Also I'm glad you talked about Spessia. I feel like people forget that it was highly inferred by Amalthus and his goony that Judicium was long destroyed at this point. Heck maybe it was destroyed by the Tornan Titan itself and not Malos. Also in Morytha, Pyra finds out about the slaughter of Lora and Jin and the people of Torna in Spessia. This is the scene before fighting the huge Guldo where Jin tells his backstory to Rex and the gang. But maybe she took the Aegis sinking three titans at face value because for all she knows, she could have assumed Spessia could have been a dying titan like future Mor Ardain especially since her Siren blasts went in so many directions in that ending sequence. She could have assumed she damaged that titan and sped up its aging process.
I actually played Torna before XC2. I had read that it contains spoilers of the main game but playing the DLC before the main game, I felt, really enhanced the game and made me care about the characters that carried over more than I would have if I had done it the other way. I also really enjoyed seeing how the past affected the future in small ways and how the landscape changed in Gormott.
Now that I've finished Torna, I really like that Rex didn't tell Gramps about his mission to salvage the Aegis. When he hears about the shady mission they're on he's just like "shit, i knew this day would come" and rushes over
There is one small detail that is wrong. Nia's "father" was not her driver otherwise she would have gone back to her core when he died. It was her "sister" who was her driver and upon her death, she ate her flesh so that she would live on inside her and so that she wouldn't go back to her core.
No, nia was definitely the blade, it's stated outright in game but i can see where it gets kinda confusing. But yeah Nia didn't die, the daughter aka Nia's "sister" was the one who died, and the father/driver had Nia eat the sister to keep her spirit alive, for some twisted reason. Thats why Nia is a flesh eater, like Jin who ate Lora. The father was a driver who had a sick daughter and was collecting any healing blades he could in hopes of saving her. He had Nia because she was a healing blade. That also why he had dromarc, another healing blade. Unfortunately, that didnt work and the daughter died anyways. When Nia became a flesh eater she took over dromarc from the driver aka her "father", although hes technically the father's blade, unless Nia re awoken his core crystal when the father died, that part is never definitively answered though. Nia could do this because flesh eaters can be drivers for other blades, and flesh eaters aren't bound to their drivers like regular blades are. Flesh eaters also turn mortal, and won't return to their core crystals when they die like normal blades. The payoff, successful flesh eaters like Jin and Nia live long ass lives, Jin is like 510 during XB2. Hope this helps and made sense.
@@Cman04092 I think that you are the one confused because I never said that Nia was not a blade. What I said was that Nia's "father" was not her driver. Nia's "sister" was her driver, which is why she resembles her due to blades taking after their driver when they have high affinity resonance(like how Haze resembles Lora), and why she became a flesh eater after she consumed her "sister's" flesh. A flesh eater or a blade eater can only exist by consuming a part of their bonded partner. If Nia was her "father's" blade she would have had to consumed his flesh in order to become a flesh eater. Dromarch was the"father's" blade that Nia reawoke, that part is made explicitly clear and shown in a cutscene in Crucible Elpis where Nia has a flashback where she is crying in her house after her "father" passes away and finds a core and says "This was Da's" and reawakens Dromarch.
Wow, your idea of an expanded ending of 2 was so on point, it even feels like something that’d actually happen. Wish it did though. It was heartwarming and would have given the ultimate kind of closure for the legacy of both parties. Nice job with the video by the way.
That idea for the pictures at the end of the video legitimately made me tear up. The idea of the legacy of that one photo being held up for so long that it almost happens again really gets to me. Someone keeping the photo as a memory of the heroes does kinda remind me of the picture you get in the champions Ballad in BOTW. Which is weird because both are DLCs for switch games that came out in 2017 and expand on characters you dont really see in the main game, but I'm going off topic
Bryn Williams I’m pretty sure Addam Origo went missing after founding fonsett, where he probably started his own family and then eventually for some reason, Rex’s parents (assuming Rex actually is a descendant of Addam) decided to head to Fonsett.
Fantastic video Luxin, the best one to date. I definitely agree about your change to the ending for the reasons you said, along with the fact that it would settle the debate of whether Pyra and Mythra keep their memories. Sorry to hear about the problems your channel's been having, but you can count on me to keep coming back for more. God I love Xenoblade
You made a great point about Minoth. I got a bit emotional for his psychological wellbeing when you said that. Made me realise why they made those plays a key feature in the storyline and why in the plays the drivers were more emphasised than their blades. He wanted to have a noble driver like Adam or Lora :( He does not want to be remembered in being the blade of his driver Amalthus. He wanted to be valued and desired to be a blade of renown. Why could he not be Lora or Addams blade? Why did it have to be him attached to Amalthus? His creativity and his storytelling is his way of sticking it too Amalthus, and also an outlet to deal with his own grief and memories of the good old golden days.
I have an idea that the reason addam set things up the way he did specifically making a letherian required was made from mythras vision and it wasn't acctually required to have a letherian it was required to have specifically Rex as the person to open the ship because mythra saw the future
You would still likely reach a negative result if you added up the total. Jin defected, Addam retired (or might have been killed), Zettar falsely claimed Addam's bloodline, Minoth was left to rot, and next to no one remembers the heroics of Lora or Haze.
@@williamgroves3134 Still, it just so happens that the right boy awakened Pyra at the right time. Nothing the Torna people did ensured that would happen or made it more likely. It seems a bit "Deus Ex Machina" to me. It's not like Azurda and/or Minoth was tasked with finding the right candidate and grooming him to become the new Aegis Driver.
i wish addam took half of his core crystal and implanted it into lora that way she might of been alive with jin in the events of xenoblade 2 and that would prevent jin from hating humans why he ate her was because she got shot in the war and was dying so jin ate her heart it made me love jins character and have empathy for him and thanks to torna we know why he hates humans.
This is the brilliant video. Thank you. Espesialy for concept of ending with those photos. It is a really good idea, that i would've like to see in the game.
Why do I almost cry looking at the picture at the beginning and hearing a moment in eternity start to play? 😢 and your idea for the main game ending sounded amazing, kinda wish now they did that.
Also somebody on reddit caught some dialogue in the DLC that said Hugo's brother had a strained relationship with the emperor himself. With Hugo's sudden death, I can see why this change in regime, heck their change in gormotti relations became so different. Edit: Also maybe its just me, but I was kinda bothered by the "lover's quarrel" remark. I honestly think both girls needed acceptance the most, from themselves, from the world, and from their own driver Rex most of all. Knowing Mythra's personality, I don't think she would care even if she didn't get the romance. I mean she still finally found her place in this world and a world that accepts her for who she is. For me, Pyra just got the bonus of romance included especially because I believe if it were Rex's choice and not the players', he would choose Pyra. After all, Pyra is the one who visits the parents graves, whom he has several heart to hearts with specifically the marriage talk at the grave, she's even the form that reminds Auntie Corrine of Rex's mother whereas Mythra can be more... "Coarse". As for people who say they are the same person, I believe Rex doesn't have that excuse to call them the same person anymore either considering both Pyra and Mythra came back. I honestly believe both of them coming back too was a part of Klaus's gift aside from Alrest's titans joining the land. The Pyra and Mythra separate body things is kinda like a failsafe should their true Pneuma physical form be destroyed.
I did have a line about Hugo's brother, as well as one referencing the fact that "don't forget me" was probably adopted as a battle cry by the Ardainian armed forces in his honor, but ended up cutting them for various reasons. Saying "lovers quarrel" might have put an image different from what I was intending in mind. The way I imagined the scene was with the credits theme playing over it, so it wouldn't be voiced, but you could tell by everyone's body language that they were at peace and just being themselves and whatnot. I figured since Pyra would be doing the cooking, Rex and Mythra would actually interact with each other in the scene and I figured them talking and him saying something that makes her go tsun on him for a minute would make sense. I didn't mean to imply that they actually weren't getting along or anything, just that she still has that aspect of her personality despite opening up to everyone.
Oh I see. I mean I wouldn't have minded if those sections weren't cut. After all, I stayed for the whole entire video. ;) But then again, I'm not a youtuber by any means so I trust your choice since I'd probably not handle the editing and length like a pro. Yeah I did interpret what you said a bit differently for the "lovers quarrel", but thank you for clarifying! Honestly as much as I do love the game, I think the ending just left some unanswered questions especially with how they handled the return of the Aegis. I mean I'm pretty sure the director stated he wanted Xenoblade 2 to have that boy meets girl aspect so it just further complicates things to make the player basically choose a girl in chapter 8 as well as bring both girls back in separate bodies. It's honestly baffling too since I think even the director who had a large role in the game has a Pyra bias, even talking about her motherly nature in interviews in regards to her relation with Rex. Not to mention, them implementing that Tora DLC costume lol. I mean I would have been fine if the Aegis girls came back the same way they functioned in-game. They would still switch back and forth but wouldn't have access to Pneuma's physical form anymore. Honestly this is why I "Headcanon" Klaus's gift to not only be for Alrest having the Titans join the land, but also a gift for his daughter or daughters to live as separate people if something happened to their true nature.
But the *form* of Pneuma is an oddity. The reason form even exists as Mythra states is because Pyra and her are working as one. So its really pyra + mythra.
But in the vision with Aion before Pneuma is revealed, it is kinda stated that this is their whole being by Pyra herself. Back in Torna, Mythra probably only had access to the third sword but not the Pneuma form/appearance herself because the driver and blade bond wasn't strong enough. Hence, this is why she couldn't really control her actions and entered a trance like state. Heck Addam upon awakening the Aegis was probably the reason she took on the Mythra form in the first place. It's even implied that Mythra even back in the Tornan days has the same fears as Addam, the fear of her powers and her control of it. I think that is especially highlighted by the fact that in the beginning of Torna she is purposely isolating herself. These fears as well as the weight of ruling were thrust upon Addam's shoulders and probably affected the resonance with the Aegis core crystal in the first place. I still think Pneuma is the true form considering her World Tree authorizations are hardwired into her brain and they become instinctual once Rex unlocks that form. This form even has her true name engraved on her clothing which Pyra and Mythra don't have
@@michaelolegario6399 My thing is if Pythra has an ultimate form then that means Malos and Alvis have ultimate forms. Amalthus is downright terrified of the aegis's power so much so he had to rewrite history. And Alvis....well who knows who awoke his core.
This video was so great you actually listed the characters a bit of the inpact the had but also chronolgically so that it was really understandable and so. Btw i love your take on the ending with the pictures at the end on the dinner
I think your version of the ending to the main game would be a bit more memorable than the actual ending to the main game, I love to see that. Unfortunately Rex's story has come to a close and we will have to move on to another story that was affected by the Conduit. And I am looking forward to what story they have. But of course Monolith Soft have to work on X2 first before moving to anything else I assume.
This one was a very nice video indeed! And I really liked your idea for XC2 ending, that would be sweet. This was an amazing journey, looking forward to what MonolithSoft has in store for us!
I enjoyed Torna a lot also because I knew it would end badly, it was this knowledge that made the photo impactful for me. It was literally the state I wanted to be able to preserve the party.
That photo took me off guard as did the name of the game. It was the best way for me to be introduced to the franchise. It was a complete red herring where I thought, save mythra, save torna and defeat bad guy - the end. The photo scene disarmed me completely. Made my experience of the full xc2 game better when I got it. I was in utter shock and disbelief after everything the characters went through to see the ending. I cried because I've never seen a game end such in such a Shakespearen way. I got so angry with the entire game going 'what the hell for' and then realised I was so invested in the characters and world that it was actually brilliant storytelling. Best game series I've ever played. The storytelling is fantastic.
I think the best bet of a group picture of the Rex's team would've been in a heart-to-heart, or in Fonsett or just right before they were setting off to Indol. But hey, with 3, I guess they've settled it at the end after all.
You explore the Tornan Womb. The landmark is named as such and you can see that the boss room is the same as the one in TGC. It's just aged and decrepit.
@@joeyrambo20 You definitely explore some of the inside of the Titan, since some of the geography matches up perfectly, and some of the area has ruins that likely came from the capital and the militia barracks. Like I said, I just thought it'd be an interesting topic to do a video on.
To add my two cents, you explore more of the inside of Torna than the Outside/exterior in the main game. I remember coming from Golden Country back to the main game and look at Torna as I cross the bridges in and out, and you see so many details of it. Yet with what we see in Golden Country, we hardly if any touched those parts in the main game.
A good place for that party photo could be, I dunno the ending of a theoretical Xenoblade Chronicles 3 that I certainly haven’t played or seen and certainly wouldn’t involve any major context bombshells
When I heard your idea about your way to end xc2, I was imagining it in my head and it turned out to be sooooooo good that I actually cried Nintendo and Monolith Take notes Love this vid Love all your vids ❤️✌🏻
Fantastic video. My friend brought me Torna first, which was introduction to the xenoblade series. The ending was amazing. And when I started playing xc2, so many lightbulb moments happened. Especially later developments of the story when I realised it was the same Mikail 500 years later. I'm just playing it again and I am still picking up super juicy underlying themes that I missed in playing it the first time and playing xc2. I think they did a fantastic job with Amalthus in this not making him too evil. His conservatism and stoicism made him really creepy and unsettling. Fantastic development of his evil character. And this video helped me realise he was responsible for the blade eaters. It didn't twig the first time I played the games that was him.
Your ending for Xenoblade is actually really good, I too would do something like that. And people really thought the ending of torna was all for nothing? Really?
Were I the developer, I’d probably make a dlc side quest where Minoth hosts a play based on Lora’s life. Also, at least be credited in history for forming the new battle system. She deserved better :(
Minoth, as one of the last living witnesses, would be well-suited to commemorate Lora that way. Without the embellishments and fictionalizations either this time around, due to the fact that the Praetorium is gone by the end of the game.
how can people complain about the ending, its refreshing to see a not so happy ending once in a while and is the main motivation for the events of the main game
@Luxin I find it funny how you said you wanted a group photo of the entire XB2 party to have been made to have something "very special at the end of the game," and then Xenoblade 3 happened. Guess you eventually got what you wanted after all. ;)
You might want to shift the place of the fall of spessia and Pyra sealing herself away. I'm sure they didn't know about spessia sinking and didn't even realize it until later on.
I'm sorry if I'm a bit hung up on this, but did you not see the after credits scene from the main game? You mentioned that the game ended on the core crystal glowing, but the after credits scene shows Pyra and Mythra awakened as two separate blades. Also spoilers for Xenosaga Episode 1 and Xenoblade chronicles 2's endings. Xenoblade Chronicles 2's ending is almost a shot for shot remake of the ending of Xenosaga Episode 1. I can't be the the only one who noticed this. A giant space station is going to crash into the planet and the only way to stop it is if someone is left behind to blow it up. As the heroes are escaping the station something goes terribly wrong where they could die reentering the planet's atmosphere and then some Deus Ex Machina saves them. As they wake up, or go through a rift we are greeted by a scene of the Elsa/Azurda flying over an ocean with the fragments of the space station burning up in the atmosphere. They have a somber moment when they think their friend, the one who blew up the station, didn't make it, but they find out that they did make it. I'm not going to say this is bad, on the on the contrary I really liked the ending of Xenosaga Episode 1 and am pretty happy the ending of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is an homage to it. I'm just curious why I haven't heard anyone mention this. Then again Xenosaga is kind of hard to come by these days so I'm not too surprised.
That was poor wording on my part, as I kind of assumed everyone watching would know about developer interviews. I meant that the original ending planned in development was to cut the scene there, but they decided to add the rest later on. I personally would've preferred that original ending, but the version I mention in this video is based on extending the one in the actual game.
@@cake6851 or Xenogears for that matter. LIKE CONE ON PEOPLE GET ON IT. XENOGEARS FTW. Hope they do a non-canon x-over with all the Xeno universes. Would love to see the character interactions
7:01 or the Best Goddamn character in the base game, he is best girl and best boy at the same time, he is that powerful and glorious Change my mind, I dare you
There is the possibility that Amalthus had half of Haze's core removed just before Lora died, which would explain why Haze mentions something about it feeling like some of her memories are missing and how she may have remembered Jin right when he stabbed her.
I was kinda hoping for something like that too. Either way I just loved this expansion and was wondering the whole way though how this would all play out. I even forgot a few things that it was all doomed. I was hoping to a more solid connection to the downfall of Jin and actually playing out that in game, but I'm still really happy overall.
Call me an idiot, and i don't know how i never noticed, but i just bawled crying this whole video because i never mde the obvious connection with adult and child mikael being the same dude. I love both, and now i love them even more. God luxin
I played torna first. It took me ages in xc2 to realise that was him 500 years later. I got emotional for him as well. Not only an orphan but to go through that experimentation. Wow.
Have people SERIOUSLY complained that the ending was "all for nothing?" IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE WENT INTO GOLDEN COUNTRY KNOWING THERE'D BE NO HAPPY ENDING!
Actually I think that Torna's ending is better because the main characters felt loss and didn't get everything given back to them at the end like nothing happened like the main game ending did. Seriously why did they have to ruin the emotional moment where she sacrifices herself, and why does no one else complain about it?
Seriously. Every time I marveled at the world building, I ended every thought with, "Wow, these are some of the best definitely soon-to-be-dead characters ever!"
- Zer0 I do
-Zer0 My only main complaint is my plan to kill Pyra/Mythra so Nia could hook up Rex failed since they were revived by Core Crystal. (when I really think about it, that could have easily solved the whole Waifu War by having those two dead...… Yay.... I'm thinking like a horrible human being especially since Nia sees Pyra/Mythra as her best friend)
@@cantbelieveIneedtwousernames I felt the same exact way. I felt they had it going so well, with a tragic ending, then they confused it all with the after credits sequence.
For us humans... Being forgotten is a much worse fate than death. ~ -Lora- *_A R D A N A I A N S O L D I E R_*
"Don't forget [them]!"
*Yer Don*
THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME?
Dont forget me
lmao
"I wanted a picture of the full party together" well... that aged INCREDIBLY well! though I won't say how
Im betting its the origin of the Gigachad Rex meme.
@@ayar2 you would be right! I’ll say no more, though.
Let's show 'em a thing or three!
"Zeke isn't an aegis driver"
*Laugh in the eye of shining justice*
This made me laugh way harder than it should have. Applause.
Dont even compare it to the Aegis, The eye of shining justice is SO much stronger then the aegis, He could've killed Malos EASILY, but realized his power would also result in other disasters. It was very hard for him to restrain his power, you know?
@@SuperFanatic22731 okay, that actually made me laugh.
Seeing Lora and Haze die in X2 before having played Torna : "Never really knew them, but that's sad I suppose."
Seeing Lora and Haze die after playing Torna: *Lie down, try not to try, cry a lot*
Might be 2 years too late but...
try not to cry*
Might be 5 months after the first correction but
try not to cry*
Yeah alot of parts in x2 that I felt almost nothing would have been way better if I play torna before kinda wish I play it first
Torna was SO good. It reminded me to go back and play XB3 😂
So this means Tora and Poppi are the only party members of the main game to have no relation whatsoever to the events of Torna.
Imagine if Grampypon Soosoo was an NPC somewhere in Torna.
Wes Nohatsha but I did find many nopon looking like tora and sounding like rhyming with soosoo
The same argument could be made for Nia. I think it makes him special that he wasn't directly affected by the Torna heroes. The world they created inspired him to become a driver.
@@killerbean6806 Rex is probably the descendent of Addam
@@killerbean6806 You don't get any more "hentai" beyond what you probably already seen. supporting this game means showing Nintendo we want more high budget games
You forgot one more legacy of Hugo: to honor the emperor of Mor Ardain during the Aegis War, the Ardanian military officially adopted his battle cry of "Don't forget me!" Unfortunately, with the passage of time this has condensed to just "Don't forget!", but even 500 years later every rank-and-file member of Mor Ardain's military pays tribute to Hugo.
Dammit, Monolith, if you just left "DON'T FORGET ME" the way it originally was, this joke would've worked perfectly...
Torna Legacy in a nutshell: Haze and Mikhail become victims of Amalthus’ machinations. Brighid and Aegeaon become entirely different people (kind of), Hugo, Milton and Mikhail sacrifice themselves. Minoth becomes a storyteller as well as running an orphanage, Jin gets to see Lora again (I swear I’m not crying), Addam dies with a hope for the world and a new driver for the Aegis, and Mythra gets Rex’s-
Mythra: Shut up!
*Y E S*
His “one-eyed monster”!
@@maxrichards3881, mythra doesn’t get The Zekenator
Brighid doesn't become different at all. Jin even tells her that directly as he leaves the main cast in Morithya. He did say she'd changed before, but he was lying then.
Minoth also was implied to have been a mercenary. Vandham mentions that he and Minoth used to work together and that Minoth was really strong. So we can assume that a few decades prior to the events of base game that Minoth was still fit and active.
*shows clip of jin and lora running away
bruh im already crying
maybe Monolith Soft can bring them back somehow, as unlikely as it sounds
Well, Luxin, now we know that the main cast of XC2 did get a photo.
I just wish that DLCs were all like this Torna Golden Country. Not some cash grab skin or any other gimmick.
Xenoblade 2 and fenyx rising is how dlc should be done though I also think smash Bros dlc is incredible a lot of games don’t work like that
I agree, it's the right way for really important dlc that enhanced the experience
Torna is a old school expansion pack
I can't stop crying over this game. That's 3 days in a row now. Send help.
Yami
I can’t send help, but I can send hugs
Sorry It's impossible, I know cause I've been crying for a whole month
I can't send help.
I need help too. ;_;
I tried so hard not to cry during Torna. But it got me. Especially when Hugo died (I dunno why, but I really liked his character) and then right at the end when you see Rex about to awaken Pyra. That got me. Hard.
3 days? What about 2 years? Lol
There needs to be a second DLC. I love these games so much.
Playing this game made me forget that torna was doomed, and right before I beat it I remembered that the continent sank and just said: oh... wait a second....
Watching this after finishing Xenoblade 3, the picture thing did happen but with a twist
So about that photo idea…
I realized that Vandham is Urayan equivalent of Morag and Zeke (and Addam), since he has noble blood and his second-in-command can be seen with the Queen multiple times after his death. That would also mean Roc would be an equivalent of Jin, Brighid, and Pandoria.
Actually the grave sites in Gormott are at the bottom of toxic water being dumped by the Torigoth Base Entrance, I have taken screen shots were the grave sites are located on the mini map and compare it to the main game map, they both line up where the Nor Ardain base at Gormott dumps the toxic water. Mor Ardain must really love the Gormottie...
i'd like to think they grew the flowers in memory of them
@@Yuukecchi Reality can be cruel.
I thought it is the flower patch near the cliff.
@@nikotechtv3441 just take screen shots in the area of the gormott grave site with the mini map enlarged and compare it to the main game map and you will see it line up with there the toxic water being dumped
@zedrick jaramillo You know it could be possible they didn't know and just built in the area until they started dumping the water.
Monolith Soft need to write Xenoblade novels
I would so read 'em all, their lore is phenomenal!
I heard they take 8 months normally to write the story before they even think about how to make a game out of it, so no wonder.
I wish this game never ended. It’s been the best. I still have to 100% the main game but I wish the story was longer. This was my first Xenoblade and Xeno game and I’m not ready to embrace a new set of characters. I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to, all of these characters are love-able, fun and just the best. They really know how to make great characters with great back stories that all tie together in some way at one point in time. I love Xenoblade❤️💞💕
I am in the same boat as you and I have never experienced such a masterpiece of a story/game/soundtrack and I don't think I ever will again. I am also not ready to let these characters go so here's to hoping for a Xenoblade 3!
Me too! If they would keep making expansions, I would keep buying $30 expansion passes to keep these characters’ stories going...
I honestly don't know which story is better x2 golden country or the first xenoblade
This JPRG was one of the best i've played in a long time especially Torna even thou it was short.
@@luxuriafross1612 Xenoblade Chronicles 1
By far
I know Milton was created and written after the main game, but I wish that somehow, he could be referenced. He's the entire reason that Mythra broke and created Pyra, yet he's never mentioned. I know it wouldn't work without changing stuff, it's just that it's a little weird that after playing Torna, then playing the main game, Milton is never brought up, and makes him seem kind of forgotten.
EDIT: After hearing your preferred ending to XC2, I thought "what if they did what they did with Xenosaga: A Missing Year," where it shows the characters after the events of XC2? All they'd need to do is warn of spoilers before the beginning of each episode. While I'd prefer it to be actually animated, showing all the characters together just living and enjoying the eternal peace they won would be amazing. It could really make for a fun Slice of Life anime, too!
Xenoblade 3 would like to differ
the funny thing is that torna is like playing crisis core you already know the ending if you played ff7, the point of torna is the journey not the destination
FF gets away with a lot of stuff Xenoblade can't.
These Xenoblade games are something else. It's a shame they aren't as popular as some other franchises. *Ahem* Pokemon, Mario, etc.
no jrpg is, except if your name is Final Fantasy, which is a damn shame :(
@@leaonascido1959 I know its been 2 years, but I've always thought that Final Fantasy was overrated as hell.
@@dantelawrence4676 I agree with some of the games. FF 14’s story gives me the same feelings as Xenoblade 1 and 2 do though, and I consider it my number 2 game, wedged between XC1 first and XC2 third.
(FF7’s hellishly overrated though, I’d also argue 6 is as well.)
@@raisylvaine8398 *Don't forget* 9!! 9 is a wonderful game and gives me a lot of Xenoblade vibes tbh!
Nice video, ties everything from the main game and the DLC up nicely. Probably my favorite of your videos so far!
I like your photo idea. Expanding on it, Mythra could have handed her copy (that she would've gotten from Cole back in Fonsa Myma) to the dying Jin, after he killed Amalthus.
Acting as a way to tell Jin that this new group reminds her of old Torna and that they share its ideals, that they will carry on its legacy and take up the torch from here on out. That it is okay for him to finally move on and find peace now (and, possibly, finally be reunited with Lora.)
Would have made that whole scene even more impactful imo.
Wait... People were actually complaining about the ending? They knew what they were signing up fot though! At least... Most people since I'm assuming most people played the base game first. However for those who picked up Torna first and then the base game, I could somewhat understand.
Edit: Also I'm glad you talked about Spessia. I feel like people forget that it was highly inferred by Amalthus and his goony that Judicium was long destroyed at this point. Heck maybe it was destroyed by the Tornan Titan itself and not Malos. Also in Morytha, Pyra finds out about the slaughter of Lora and Jin and the people of Torna in Spessia. This is the scene before fighting the huge Guldo where Jin tells his backstory to Rex and the gang. But maybe she took the Aegis sinking three titans at face value because for all she knows, she could have assumed Spessia could have been a dying titan like future Mor Ardain especially since her Siren blasts went in so many directions in that ending sequence. She could have assumed she damaged that titan and sped up its aging process.
I actually played Torna before XC2. I had read that it contains spoilers of the main game but playing the DLC before the main game, I felt, really enhanced the game and made me care about the characters that carried over more than I would have if I had done it the other way. I also really enjoyed seeing how the past affected the future in small ways and how the landscape changed in Gormott.
I just finished Torna and came straight here to watch, got me crying all over again. This was a wonderful video, thank you Luxin
Now that I've finished Torna, I really like that Rex didn't tell Gramps about his mission to salvage the Aegis. When he hears about the shady mission they're on he's just like "shit, i knew this day would come" and rushes over
There is one small detail that is wrong. Nia's "father" was not her driver otherwise she would have gone back to her core when he died. It was her "sister" who was her driver and upon her death, she ate her flesh so that she would live on inside her and so that she wouldn't go back to her core.
No, nia was definitely the blade, it's stated outright in game but i can see where it gets kinda confusing.
But yeah Nia didn't die, the daughter aka Nia's "sister" was the one who died, and the father/driver had Nia eat the sister to keep her spirit alive, for some twisted reason. Thats why Nia is a flesh eater, like Jin who ate Lora.
The father was a driver who had a sick daughter and was collecting any healing blades he could in hopes of saving her. He had Nia because she was a healing blade. That also why he had dromarc, another healing blade. Unfortunately, that didnt work and the daughter died anyways.
When Nia became a flesh eater she took over dromarc from the driver aka her "father", although hes technically the father's blade, unless Nia re awoken his core crystal when the father died, that part is never definitively answered though. Nia could do this because flesh eaters can be drivers for other blades, and flesh eaters aren't bound to their drivers like regular blades are. Flesh eaters also turn mortal, and won't return to their core crystals when they die like normal blades. The payoff, successful flesh eaters like Jin and Nia live long ass lives, Jin is like 510 during XB2. Hope this helps and made sense.
@@Cman04092 I think that you are the one confused because I never said that Nia was not a blade.
What I said was that Nia's "father" was not her driver.
Nia's "sister" was her driver, which is why she resembles her due to blades taking after their driver when they have high affinity resonance(like how Haze resembles Lora), and why she became a flesh eater after she consumed her "sister's" flesh.
A flesh eater or a blade eater can only exist by consuming a part of their bonded partner. If Nia was her "father's" blade she would have had to consumed his flesh in order to become a flesh eater.
Dromarch was the"father's" blade that Nia reawoke, that part is made explicitly clear and shown in a cutscene in Crucible Elpis where Nia has a flashback where she is crying in her house after her "father" passes away and finds a core and says "This was Da's" and reawakens Dromarch.
Wow, your idea of an expanded ending of 2 was so on point, it even feels like something that’d actually happen. Wish it did though. It was heartwarming and would have given the ultimate kind of closure for the legacy of both parties.
Nice job with the video by the way.
That idea for the pictures at the end of the video legitimately made me tear up. The idea of the legacy of that one photo being held up for so long that it almost happens again really gets to me. Someone keeping the photo as a memory of the heroes does kinda remind me of the picture you get in the champions Ballad in BOTW. Which is weird because both are DLCs for switch games that came out in 2017 and expand on characters you dont really see in the main game, but I'm going off topic
22:30 the Aegis didn’t learn about Spessia until Morytha.
If Adamm is the ancestor of the Letherian people, and Zetter is the ancestor of the Tantalese people, would that make Zeke and Rex distant cousins?
No. It's been so many generation they are no longer considered family.
Just very very distant but sorta
Luxin makes a brilliant prediction without even intending to yet again!
It's my head canon that Rex is a descendent of Addam
It's basically confirmed
That would mean Rex and Zeke are distant cousins.
Except it's specifically stated that rex wasn't born in fonsett
@@brynwilliams5204 Yeah Rex was born in Africa
Bryn Williams I’m pretty sure Addam Origo went missing after founding fonsett, where he probably started his own family and then eventually for some reason, Rex’s parents (assuming Rex actually is a descendant of Addam) decided to head to Fonsett.
If the main game ended the way you described my soul would've left my body and I'd die
People complaining about the endings are just the type of people who can’t handle a sad ending. Not all endings are perfectly happy people.
We kind of got a group shot with 2.0 update but I really like your idea.
Where can i find this?!
(8:24) I know I'm not the only one to notice this, but Malos covered up his Core Crystal. Clever.
Fantastic video Luxin, the best one to date. I definitely agree about your change to the ending for the reasons you said, along with the fact that it would settle the debate of whether Pyra and Mythra keep their memories. Sorry to hear about the problems your channel's been having, but you can count on me to keep coming back for more. God I love Xenoblade
You made a great point about Minoth. I got a bit emotional for his psychological wellbeing when you said that. Made me realise why they made those plays a key feature in the storyline and why in the plays the drivers were more emphasised than their blades. He wanted to have a noble driver like Adam or Lora :(
He does not want to be remembered in being the blade of his driver Amalthus. He wanted to be valued and desired to be a blade of renown. Why could he not be Lora or Addams blade? Why did it have to be him attached to Amalthus?
His creativity and his storytelling is his way of sticking it too Amalthus, and also an outlet to deal with his own grief and memories of the good old golden days.
We got that picture of the 2 party :D
Its kinda funny to think that Malo's explored the enjoyed the world before he said you know what fuck it and tried to destroy it
I have an idea that the reason addam set things up the way he did specifically making a letherian required was made from mythras vision and it wasn't acctually required to have a letherian it was required to have specifically Rex as the person to open the ship because mythra saw the future
Im glad you didn't spend 30 seconds saying spoilers ahead because everyone that watches your channel has played the xeno blade games
Either that or they just want to know more about the lore of the game
Looks like the picture wish came true
Love how Luxin wanting a photo of the main cast was given 4 years later. Wild accidental prediction
Emotional video indeed. That photo always gives me the feels
If a legacy of heroism inspires others to greater heroics, it is truly "for nothing"?
You would still likely reach a negative result if you added up the total. Jin defected, Addam retired (or might have been killed), Zettar falsely claimed Addam's bloodline, Minoth was left to rot, and next to no one remembers the heroics of Lora or Haze.
@@Mazryonh it is a tragic ending, but it is not entirely hopeless or pointless.
@@williamgroves3134 Still, it just so happens that the right boy awakened Pyra at the right time. Nothing the Torna people did ensured that would happen or made it more likely. It seems a bit "Deus Ex Machina" to me. It's not like Azurda and/or Minoth was tasked with finding the right candidate and grooming him to become the new Aegis Driver.
i wish addam took half of his core crystal and implanted it into lora that way she might of been alive with jin in the events of xenoblade 2 and that would prevent jin from hating humans why he ate her was because she got shot in the war and was dying so jin ate her heart it made me love jins character and have empathy for him and thanks to torna we know why he hates humans.
This is the brilliant video.
Thank you.
Espesialy for concept of ending with those photos.
It is a really good idea, that i would've like to see in the game.
Why do I almost cry looking at the picture at the beginning and hearing a moment in eternity start to play? 😢 and your idea for the main game ending sounded amazing, kinda wish now they did that.
KOS-MOS for Smash!
Also somebody on reddit caught some dialogue in the DLC that said Hugo's brother had a strained relationship with the emperor himself. With Hugo's sudden death, I can see why this change in regime, heck their change in gormotti relations became so different.
Edit: Also maybe its just me, but I was kinda bothered by the "lover's quarrel" remark. I honestly think both girls needed acceptance the most, from themselves, from the world, and from their own driver Rex most of all. Knowing Mythra's personality, I don't think she would care even if she didn't get the romance. I mean she still finally found her place in this world and a world that accepts her for who she is. For me, Pyra just got the bonus of romance included especially because I believe if it were Rex's choice and not the players', he would choose Pyra. After all, Pyra is the one who visits the parents graves, whom he has several heart to hearts with specifically the marriage talk at the grave, she's even the form that reminds Auntie Corrine of Rex's mother whereas Mythra can be more... "Coarse". As for people who say they are the same person, I believe Rex doesn't have that excuse to call them the same person anymore either considering both Pyra and Mythra came back. I honestly believe both of them coming back too was a part of Klaus's gift aside from Alrest's titans joining the land. The Pyra and Mythra separate body things is kinda like a failsafe should their true Pneuma physical form be destroyed.
I did have a line about Hugo's brother, as well as one referencing the fact that "don't forget me" was probably adopted as a battle cry by the Ardainian armed forces in his honor, but ended up cutting them for various reasons.
Saying "lovers quarrel" might have put an image different from what I was intending in mind. The way I imagined the scene was with the credits theme playing over it, so it wouldn't be voiced, but you could tell by everyone's body language that they were at peace and just being themselves and whatnot. I figured since Pyra would be doing the cooking, Rex and Mythra would actually interact with each other in the scene and I figured them talking and him saying something that makes her go tsun on him for a minute would make sense. I didn't mean to imply that they actually weren't getting along or anything, just that she still has that aspect of her personality despite opening up to everyone.
Oh I see. I mean I wouldn't have minded if those sections weren't cut. After all, I stayed for the whole entire video. ;) But then again, I'm not a youtuber by any means so I trust your choice since I'd probably not handle the editing and length like a pro.
Yeah I did interpret what you said a bit differently for the "lovers quarrel", but thank you for clarifying! Honestly as much as I do love the game, I think the ending just left some unanswered questions especially with how they handled the return of the Aegis. I mean I'm pretty sure the director stated he wanted Xenoblade 2 to have that boy meets girl aspect so it just further complicates things to make the player basically choose a girl in chapter 8 as well as bring both girls back in separate bodies. It's honestly baffling too since I think even the director who had a large role in the game has a Pyra bias, even talking about her motherly nature in interviews in regards to her relation with Rex. Not to mention, them implementing that Tora DLC costume lol. I mean I would have been fine if the Aegis girls came back the same way they functioned in-game. They would still switch back and forth but wouldn't have access to Pneuma's physical form anymore. Honestly this is why I "Headcanon" Klaus's gift to not only be for Alrest having the Titans join the land, but also a gift for his daughter or daughters to live as separate people if something happened to their true nature.
But the *form* of Pneuma is an oddity. The reason form even exists as Mythra states is because Pyra and her are working as one. So its really pyra + mythra.
But in the vision with Aion before Pneuma is revealed, it is kinda stated that this is their whole being by Pyra herself. Back in Torna, Mythra probably only had access to the third sword but not the Pneuma form/appearance herself because the driver and blade bond wasn't strong enough. Hence, this is why she couldn't really control her actions and entered a trance like state. Heck Addam upon awakening the Aegis was probably the reason she took on the Mythra form in the first place. It's even implied that Mythra even back in the Tornan days has the same fears as Addam, the fear of her powers and her control of it. I think that is especially highlighted by the fact that in the beginning of Torna she is purposely isolating herself. These fears as well as the weight of ruling were thrust upon Addam's shoulders and probably affected the resonance with the Aegis core crystal in the first place. I still think Pneuma is the true form considering her World Tree authorizations are hardwired into her brain and they become instinctual once Rex unlocks that form. This form even has her true name engraved on her clothing which Pyra and Mythra don't have
@@michaelolegario6399 My thing is if Pythra has an ultimate form then that means Malos and Alvis have ultimate forms. Amalthus is downright terrified of the aegis's power so much so he had to rewrite history. And Alvis....well who knows who awoke his core.
This video was so great you actually listed the characters a bit of the inpact the had but also chronolgically so that it was really understandable and so.
Btw i love your take on the ending with the pictures at the end on the dinner
I think your version of the ending to the main game would be a bit more memorable than the actual ending to the main game, I love to see that. Unfortunately Rex's story has come to a close and we will have to move on to another story that was affected by the Conduit. And I am looking forward to what story they have.
But of course Monolith Soft have to work on X2 first before moving to anything else I assume.
The last bit of this comment aged like spoiled milk, haha.
This one was a very nice video indeed! And I really liked your idea for XC2 ending, that would be sweet. This was an amazing journey, looking forward to what MonolithSoft has in store for us!
To add to addam's legacy: one of his descendants is full of beans
I enjoyed Torna a lot also because I knew it would end badly, it was this knowledge that made the photo impactful for me. It was literally the state I wanted to be able to preserve the party.
That photo took me off guard as did the name of the game. It was the best way for me to be introduced to the franchise. It was a complete red herring where I thought, save mythra, save torna and defeat bad guy - the end. The photo scene disarmed me completely. Made my experience of the full xc2 game better when I got it. I was in utter shock and disbelief after everything the characters went through to see the ending. I cried because I've never seen a game end such in such a Shakespearen way. I got so angry with the entire game going 'what the hell for' and then realised I was so invested in the characters and world that it was actually brilliant storytelling. Best game series I've ever played. The storytelling is fantastic.
"The spirit of the hero"
so Zeke is actually Link
Hey Luxin, thanks for all your great thoughts and work on xenoblade 2. I'm still playing it and I will keep in touch with your channel. Keep it up.
The ideal ending that he described, is just perfect...... ☹️ Great video man, made me tear up a little 👍👍👍👍
I think the best bet of a group picture of the Rex's team would've been in a heart-to-heart, or in Fonsett or just right before they were setting off to Indol.
But hey, with 3, I guess they've settled it at the end after all.
What might be an interesting video would be going over what areas of Torna you explore in the Land of Morytha.
You explore the Tornan Womb. The landmark is named as such and you can see that the boss room is the same as the one in TGC. It's just aged and decrepit.
@@joeyrambo20 You explore more than just that, though. The area with the Parisax is another part of Torna.
@@adamrhodes9533 Yeah, but it's right next to the womb of Torna and was likely just whatever was behind the Soldier in the Womb.
@@joeyrambo20 You definitely explore some of the inside of the Titan, since some of the geography matches up perfectly, and some of the area has ruins that likely came from the capital and the militia barracks. Like I said, I just thought it'd be an interesting topic to do a video on.
To add my two cents, you explore more of the inside of Torna than the Outside/exterior in the main game. I remember coming from Golden Country back to the main game and look at Torna as I cross the bridges in and out, and you see so many details of it. Yet with what we see in Golden Country, we hardly if any touched those parts in the main game.
A good place for that party photo could be, I dunno the ending of a theoretical Xenoblade Chronicles 3 that I certainly haven’t played or seen and certainly wouldn’t involve any major context bombshells
When I heard your idea about your way to end xc2, I was imagining it in my head and it turned out to be sooooooo good that I actually cried
Nintendo and Monolith
Take notes
Love this vid
Love all your vids
❤️✌🏻
I'll toss you a sub, man. I adore this game as well, and anybody who's putting a passion into talking about it is good in my books. :)
Fantastic video. My friend brought me Torna first, which was introduction to the xenoblade series. The ending was amazing. And when I started playing xc2, so many lightbulb moments happened. Especially later developments of the story when I realised it was the same Mikail 500 years later. I'm just playing it again and I am still picking up super juicy underlying themes that I missed in playing it the first time and playing xc2. I think they did a fantastic job with Amalthus in this not making him too evil. His conservatism and stoicism made him really creepy and unsettling. Fantastic development of his evil character. And this video helped me realise he was responsible for the blade eaters. It didn't twig the first time I played the games that was him.
Sometimes, I foolishly hope that Monilith makes an alternate story where Addam successfully defeats Malos and Amalthus.
*but that will never happen*
OMG such a great story and loved playing both.
Your ending for Xenoblade is actually really good, I too would do something like that. And people really thought the ending of torna was all for nothing? Really?
Very nice review! I hope we see the same party in Xenoblades chronicles 3 !!
Were I the developer, I’d probably make a dlc side quest where Minoth hosts a play based on Lora’s life. Also, at least be credited in history for forming the new battle system. She deserved better :(
Minoth, as one of the last living witnesses, would be well-suited to commemorate Lora that way. Without the embellishments and fictionalizations either this time around, due to the fact that the Praetorium is gone by the end of the game.
Can we talk about Gort like I was not expecting that abomination in a xenoblade game at all
9:04 I thought I was actually looking at Melia
how can people complain about the ending, its refreshing to see a not so happy ending once in a while and is the main motivation for the events of the main game
Not to mention the high possibility that Addam's descendant became the next Aegis driver
@Luxin I find it funny how you said you wanted a group photo of the entire XB2 party to have been made to have something "very special at the end of the game," and then Xenoblade 3 happened. Guess you eventually got what you wanted after all. ;)
28:02 and then in XC3 were both in the same picture
Excellent video!!! I'm very glad you made this.
You might want to shift the place of the fall of spessia and Pyra sealing herself away.
I'm sure they didn't know about spessia sinking and didn't even realize it until later on.
I'm sorry if I'm a bit hung up on this, but did you not see the after credits scene from the main game? You mentioned that the game ended on the core crystal glowing, but the after credits scene shows Pyra and Mythra awakened as two separate blades.
Also spoilers for Xenosaga Episode 1 and Xenoblade chronicles 2's endings.
Xenoblade Chronicles 2's ending is almost a shot for shot remake of the ending of Xenosaga Episode 1. I can't be the the only one who noticed this. A giant space station is going to crash into the planet and the only way to stop it is if someone is left behind to blow it up. As the heroes are escaping the station something goes terribly wrong where they could die reentering the planet's atmosphere and then some Deus Ex Machina saves them. As they wake up, or go through a rift we are greeted by a scene of the Elsa/Azurda flying over an ocean with the fragments of the space station burning up in the atmosphere. They have a somber moment when they think their friend, the one who blew up the station, didn't make it, but they find out that they did make it.
I'm not going to say this is bad, on the on the contrary I really liked the ending of Xenosaga Episode 1 and am pretty happy the ending of Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is an homage to it. I'm just curious why I haven't heard anyone mention this. Then again Xenosaga is kind of hard to come by these days so I'm not too surprised.
That was poor wording on my part, as I kind of assumed everyone watching would know about developer interviews. I meant that the original ending planned in development was to cut the scene there, but they decided to add the rest later on. I personally would've preferred that original ending, but the version I mention in this video is based on extending the one in the actual game.
Okay. It's a simple mistake.
The answer to your question is simple. None of these XC fans have played Xenosaga
@@cake6851 or Xenogears for that matter. LIKE CONE ON PEOPLE GET ON IT. XENOGEARS FTW. Hope they do a non-canon x-over with all the Xeno universes. Would love to see the character interactions
7:01 or the Best Goddamn character in the base game, he is best girl and best boy at the same time, he is that powerful and glorious
Change my mind, I dare you
Your channel is awesome dude keep up the good work.
Your version of the ending would be a great addition to the game in my opinion. We the players deserved a little more closure.
Haha yeah a picture with the xc2 main cast...
Never realized how many story lines involve
Who decided to take up orphans
I think this game makes everyone cry.
There is the possibility that Amalthus had half of Haze's core removed just before Lora died, which would explain why Haze mentions something about it feeling like some of her memories are missing and how she may have remembered Jin right when he stabbed her.
i cant wait for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 (2) when we can explore in the new world as the third aegis
I wish that at the end of the game you play with Jin in his flesh eater form. Then you fight until you defeat the whole army
I was kinda hoping for something like that too. Either way I just loved this expansion and was wondering the whole way though how this would all play out.
I even forgot a few things that it was all doomed.
I was hoping to a more solid connection to the downfall of Jin and actually playing out that in game, but I'm still really happy overall.
To help your algorithm, I’ll comment
I really like your vids :-)
(0:07) AMEN, BROTHER! JOYCON BOYZ
Great video
You got the picture... More and less
Call me an idiot, and i don't know how i never noticed, but i just bawled crying this whole video because i never mde the obvious connection with adult and child mikael being the same dude. I love both, and now i love them even more. God luxin
...Yes, you are.
@@ivythay4259 aye aye. Dont attack meeee. I already did it myself 🙃
I played torna first. It took me ages in xc2 to realise that was him 500 years later. I got emotional for him as well. Not only an orphan but to go through that experimentation. Wow.
racks for smash pls daddu sakuwai
Oh come on - now I want YOUR ending to the main game so muuuch!
WOAHWOAHWOAH VANDAM WAS AN URAYAN NOBLE? HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS
Beacause you need... Nim. in order to find out. And she isn't super well liked.
rex has to be related to adam
1 if you picture rex with white hair he looks like addam
2 he recovered pyra/mythra