It's NOT Pay 2 Win! Free Player Defends Diablo Immоrtаl | Asmongold Reacts
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- Asmongold Reacts to Diаblо Immоrtаl is NOT Pay-To-Win, a claim made by a 100% free to play player who is spending $0 on the game and is enjoying it just as much as the whales!
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"You don't have to pay to win"
(3 minutes later)
"I play 13 hours a day"
Bro, that's paying in blood instead of money.
Hahahahah ✌
Yeah, I can agree with that
That's his full time job at this point. He's working harder for Blizzard than actual Blizzard employees.
And still not as powerful as the whales
I only play Minecraft on my phone for like 2-3 hours and that's enough to entertain me.
"He's in too deep and you can't pull him out, this is the world he lives in..." - Asmongold
Words of wisdom.
The only thing he got wrong is that this guy clearly ISN'T gonna figure it out himself. Like, the only reason this guy isn't simping for Raid anymore is 'cuz he supposedly got banned for running an auto-clicker.
It's Plato's cave story one guy gets out of the cave and tries to gets the other guys out but they don't believe him and remain in the dark.
When he was using the fact that they will add more things to the store to justify is not pay to win bhahahahaahhahaha dear lord, that only means the whales gonna keep buying stuff and even if you are able to get the good stuff is going to be already obsolete, ppl that don't pay money or grind like chines farmers are gonna be left in the dust hahahaha I totally lost it with that comment, not that he is making any kind of good argument against the fact is pay to win, this dude is either a complete idiot, blizz is paying him under the table to keep some face and good pr or he knows making a video that is so complete bonkers it will bring him a huge amount of views... my guess is a combination of last 2, don't think he is an idiot since he is actually getting a lot of attention with this.
Logic and reason is overrated, "just believe".
"You can not save someone that does not wish to be saved."
"The game is good free to play, you don't need to spend a penny" *proceeds to explain why the $20 battlepass is worth it*
its because --- "its optional!", blame yourself if ya impulsively availed it XD yet those who hate it can chose not to play it yet they all do is whine over it ;P
Expected from all those Hardcore Console and PC Thrift Spender gamers to rant and cuss nonsense as they're too entitled snowflakes...
Lol... People diss a cruddy p2w phone game and it's enrages you. But they're the snowflakes
@@chrissanandres2488 So let's think about what you said but in real life scenario. You go to a burger place, they say they sell burgers for just 2$. You go there, and you ask for a burger, and receive only the patty for the 2$. They sell the dough for the buns separately, and they can bake them for you but you also have to pay for that, you also have to pay for the lettuce, ketchup, onions, and so on. "Well you don't have to spend that extra money, you got your burger" they purposely sold things that should be included in the BASE BURGER separately because they're greedy. You wouldn't accept that, why accept it in videogames as well? If it's cosmetics or whatever sure! But if they literally CREATE PROBLEMS and then SELL you the SOLUTION that is not acceptable. I don't mind if games sell stuff, like a battlepass to get a few rewards, but when you're restricted left and right and the game literally forces you to pay real money if you want to keep playing or progress then that's a shit game, and the fact that you're defending that is pathetic. Keep eating those boots I guess, Blizzard loves loyal dogs like you
Yup, couldn't take him seriously at all after that.
Dude is not seeing the bigger picture.
@@chrissanandres2488games like this are toxic and the world would be better off without any pay to win features
Math warning!
From what I understand, it takes somewhere between 400-600 rift runs (possibly more), each fully supplied with ten Legendary Crests, to reliably yield a single 5/5* legendary gem. You need six of those to fully deck your gear, so that's 2,400 runs to get six... and then you need ten duplicates (or enough other different legendary gems) to rank those up to level 10, but let's just consider the case of getting _just_ six 5/5* gems.
For a P2W player, they just throw money at the problem.
Ten crests a run, $25 a run, (with every 33rd run free...)
$10,000-15,000 per gem (minus $300-450 in "free" runs). 400-600 runs.
Five minutes a run. 2,000-3,000 minutes of gameplay. 33-50 hours of gameplay. Per 5/5* gem.
200-300 hours of gameplay for six. At 8 hours a day of gameplay, a P2W player can grind out six 5/5* gems in a month or two (25 to 38 8-hr days) .
F2P player?
How many legendary crests can they get in a month? One? Two? Ten? I'm fairly certain the answer is _less_ than ten. But...
Let's say the F2P player can (somehow(!)) get a hold of *_FIFTY_* free crests a month. That's 5 runs.
400-600 runs will take 80-120 _months_ to complete.
That means the F2P player can have a shot at the same gear a P2W whale can _grind out in a month,_ in approximately *_40 to 60 YEARS!_*
And that's with an extreme expectation of the number of crests a F2P player can get ahold of.
At _one_ crest a month, the _expected minimum_ amount of time to get six 5/5* gems stacks up at *_2000+ years._*
'Diablo Immortal' indeed. You HAVE to be immortal to F2P this game to endgame.
They'll probably power-creep in a couple years and F2P players will be able to finally get those 5/5* gems while the P2W players will have another tasty goal to buy.
In what world are 120 months translated to 60 years bro ? Last time I checked there's more than two months in a year.
@@yosho_sussy 120 months for 1 gem. You need 6, so yeah I suppose even tho ur reading comprehension sucks, ur math is decent right?
@@LORDcicada Doesn't make any fucking sense, if your maths were decent as mine are, you would have included the probabilities for each gem to drop twice, and the probabilities to get each specific gem you need out of every gem in the game. Still incorrect, and the only way you could have made sense with that bullshit is if you were talking about one specific random gem.
@@LORDcicada And if you were honest too mr. Albert Einstein, or had any understanding of the game at all. You would know you are not supposed to immediately drop your gems with the 5 stars filled in, you're realistically supposed to get your gems with 2 to 4 gems and upgrade them to 5 which is way easier and less grindy.
"I don't know what this does, but it's worth the $20" All you need to know about this guy.
Lmao this had me going
he plays gacha games all day, apparently. his stupidity makes a whole lot more sense once you know that much about him
@@timothydonovan5647 same
Not to mention he says he doesn't spend money on the game. Who is he to assign value to something he hasn't seen the need to buy?
I play Mobile games, and I'm pretty sure there isn't a player who was not p2w, this is just hilarious.
This guy works harder for blizzard than a paid shill. I'm rather impressed, and equally appalled that you could sell out your integrity that much
*and for so little.
i think the sad thing is he actually believes the shit he is saying, its like when you talk to people who've been brainwashed by cults, and they find ways to rationalize the shit the cult does to them, and there's nothing you can do to help them wake up.
These people are chronically brainwashed, they are no different from flat earthers.
It's not pay to win but you're going to have to lose a few games so you get matched with other poor people, PS: Asmongold is just trolling.
This GUY QUIT shilling for RAID Shadow legends for diablo immortal, that says everything right there
If you love Diablo Immortal so much but don't want to deal with microtransactions, just buy Diablo 3 instead. It's already been documented that there are items in Diablo Immortal that cannot be obtained in any way that doesn't involve spending money.
which items?
D3 Is going to be the last real diablo game, 4 already has a battlepass
@@buddygang9834 😂
@@sadfar2478 Back then when i watching video about that, man said next "There is more tiers of those 5/5 gems than you think guys, so basically to get those improved Tier gems you need to sell your soul as a F2P player. Almost impossible to achieve without spending money, its even hard to achieve as a P2W".
Used to watch Stew when I played Raid: Shadow Legends...Let him rope me into believing a lot of the packs were "Worth", claiming he was F2P, while he had 100s of thousands of dollars in the game. It was also leaked that him and another content creator were getting Legendary heroes for free to advert which caused a big fall out on the forums and Google reviews at the time. This guy is as delusional as they come when it comes to paying money on games. 100% doubt he is F2P on this dumpster fire.
Could you give some hints how to find sources for that? Because that would be really interesting in my opinion.
@@einen9325 not sure if clips/vids are around anymore but Darth Microtransactions, another content creator covered it pretty nicely when it happened. This was right after the second Christmas event if I recall correctly.
When the man said the $20 is worth but he did not know what the materials does,
I was just like" WTF? Do you know what you are talking?"
His breath smells like blizzard balls.
it's so worth 20$ but he didn't got it himself
@@JohnDBlue at that point he possible could work 10h flipping burgers instead of grinding 10h and then just dump the money into the game
Pay to win not a thing guys I'm completely free * but I did buy this battle pass...and I mean this 20$ package it's worth it too " lmao that's not free to play
The guy switched from raid copium to diablo copium what do you expect ;) I watched some of his content when i was playing raid and most of the time it was either wrong , clueless or copied content from other creators just like him who push out guides after guides for every new thing hoping for a sponsor deal
"Free player defends Diablo Immortal"
That Free player IMMEDIATELY tells you to spend $20...
he said if you wanted to support the game, lol
@@INSOMNANOMS What and he doesn't, even after making a free AD?
And why should I support this predatory practise wtf?
@@adrianreichelt7057 I feel like that's kinda an irrational response to a simple comment abt "if you wanted to" lmfao. Yall rage so hard just cause the dude said that
@@perckmalice70 literally nobody is saying you should lol
"youre gonna have to sell that to be good at the game" I died lmfao XDXD
This is my first time seeing actual gameplay of this, and its actually built like a mobile game. The UI actually looks like something I'd see in a cheap mobile game with a ton of ads in it. RIP triple A game companies.
its like the movie industry.... we need independent films to rise again... and indie games to be on the spotlight
Wait, it is a mobile game tho and it was always, even infamously so, advertised as a mobile game... Its a terrible pay to win game but we all knew it would be mobile quality... because its a mobile game with no ports to PC or console.
codm genshin hsr Pokémon unite and RLSS are pretty solid mobile games, blizzard is just terrible at making games atp in general ngl
true@@zyth3392
Stew comes from RAID, where he was a whale. He was a drama troll in that game and rage quit several times. He's banking on this game to be his new cash cow.
Ah that explains it. Trolling as provocatively as possible and name dropping Asmon so he watches his video for some free promotion. I hate that it probably works but whatever channels like his need to start new drama every day to get attention because none of his viewers are there for him as a creator :)
Someone in the comments also mentioned, he used a cheat engine in the game, and how to get away with it and he got thrown out of the creator programm.
@@shimaphys He said he did it to force Plarium's hand on the issue, i believe, but take that as you will.
Yeah, he was upset that even with his whale account he was being beat by people cheating in PvP (basically speed hacking, allowing them more matches / minute).
He had a direct link to the developers through the creator program. Instead he demonstrated in a video how to cheat. He was then shocked that they kicked him out of the program. You can't make this shit up.
i love how this dudes entire argument is just immediately debunked by riches clip where he spent 12k one shotting everything and taking literally no damage in pvp
Except that is low rank pvp, I have seen other people do 18/6 at lvl 39 Necromancer btw, they're pretty strong.
Once you get up everyone is a whale and then all of a sudden the P2W aspect means nothing, they're paying to compete.
@@MGC-XIII whale wars haha
That clip of Rich is so good, that maniacal laughter of his is just perfect for it
@@MGC-XIII so this guy is actually right, it’s not pay to win, but pay to play
Free game btw
@@darkangel5672 nope, there is P2W in this game, it's a mobile game after all.
However you can play this game without paying and still have fun in it. I have also been playing Raid for 3 years now without spending much.
I still enjoy the game without competing at the highest tier.
In comparison I probably spent 5 times that amount on LoL when I played.
The level of copium he is huffing would legit kill me
How ever if I was blizzard I'd do what they are doing, how ever I'd also start dropping events that power boosts f2ps by months of work to feel the whales. I'd in fact lock the drops behind pvp. In fact in fact, I'd actively try to make items that look good to f2ps but the game things it's such a power boost it boosts them into getting one shot by whales and it's good for pve but pvp it sets you up with whales that would normally be out side if your reach. I'd also add per pvp match trickle so you get something for being ran over. I'd even soft block f2ps from matching each other to speed up the rate whales get to eat.
He is probably right that there will be some patch that makes it so the F2P crowd can get the best gems. But as he also mentions, those kinda games get frequent updates with new content. The moment the F2P crowd gets access to it, the whales will have access to something better. Some whales get unhappy if they feel F2P's can threaten them, and you don't want to make the whales unhappy. This also incentivizes the whales to spend money again after they have gotten fully decked out gear. The F2P players will then feel like they are catching up, even if they are really not. The only ones losing "power" in this model are the ones who stop spending as their initial purchases are powercrept.
Stew was, until very recently, an established Raid content creator.
He quit raid for Diablo Immortal.
So, he badly needs Diablo to succeed.
The research I've done says he was banned from Raid for cheating.
Not sure if that's true, but holy shit if it is...
that explains a lot hahaha
yeah he didnt quit but was kicked from their content creators discord
@@atomsk01 it was for 'cheating' but he was just using an auto clicker to farm (i believe or something along those lines), which a lot of players do but he made videos showing it
ohhhhh that explains a lot....
shiiiiit I am so sad for that guy imagine you let mobile game consume your youtube career for years, get kicked and now you rely on this game or you suck .
4 minutes in and he’s solidified my choice to not play it.
thats good that means you have self-respect and principles and integrity.
@Nooch Sauce Unfortunately I have seen people saying that Immortal is way better than d3, which is very weird. I feel like D3 still gets unnecessarily shit on despite being in a good place for years since RoS launched. The other side being that it feels like 50% or more of Immortal is a simple D3 copy/paste job anyway. I played it, and had fun, but I don't know how you call Immortal even close to being what D3 is.
Wow came across this video again and realized this is what made me start watching osmond. I played raid shadow legends while deployed and watched this guys videos which lead me to Diablo and finally following osmond. Crazy how the world works
i love how every person defending immortal has been some 40-50yr old dude who devolves to just calling people names and saying everyone else is the idiot. me over here playing on free private wow servers having never sent a dime to the owners i have 10 paid items in my vanity.. crazy how a good a game just works.
"It is easier to fool a man than it is to convince a man he's been fooled"
"Fools are easily parted from their wallets"- 1989 Gandhi
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
and Wizard's First Rule: people will believe anything they want to believe either because they fear it's true, or they want it to be true.
@@dudebruh8534 "fools will believe anything" - Gandolf the Grey 2003
“I haven’t pvp’d yet but when I do I’m going to be up there with the top guys”
-12 year old me about to start my rank 14 grind on an enhance shaman
Thisssssss! 🤣😂
Are you me?
if you doubt this man's authenticity. just remember that almost every game with shitty pay to win mechanics will have atleast some people who will argue to their death that it's not only ok. or acceptable. but actively good for the players.
Gacha players saying how rewarding it is to finally get their waifus after selling their entire house while people are getting it for free on the internet on rule 34
From "I bet my house, that I can compete with the whales" to "I'll just lose so much, that I'll never encounter them" in one week...
Well, I mean, it really depends on what you're competing on. See, if you're competing on winning, well, you know that might not go so great... but, if you're competing at who can lose harder or faster, or just playing a raw number of hours doing the same thing over and over, well then, you got a pretty good chance because that's basically what the whales are doing... the same thing, over and over in a very uninspired and boring shit show. Then again, maybe you could be competing at eating Subway sandwiches, or smoking cigarettes or falling asleep and literally face rolling the game, , or any combination of those, and I'd have to say "yeah, it's probably some pretty stiff competition between the free to play and the kraken class"... 😂
He's going through his sad arc before being filled with determination and the power of friendship, and hopefully will end up downloading a decent game
"Heres why you should be free to play!"
Legit 10 seconds later
"Buy the battlepass!"
My guy the whiplash i just got.
lmao
You should see his fanbase. He just caused probably more than half them to lose their shit. Most are like wtf are you stupid.
"if you want to support the game buy the battle pass" what u listening too
He didn't incentivize to buy it.... All he said is if you wanted to.
@@eleesium8407 Because that's something you say at the very start of a supposedly f2p > p2w players. Regardless of intentions, it comes across as disingenuous
This dude has some knock on your door try my religion energy. ‘Free to try, free to play, free to check out.’ The actual language of his videos feels like an ad whether intended or not 😂
he looks exactly like the bitconnect guy too
I think it is an add to be honest. I mean he tells people to spend money and that its a great deal 20 seconds in to the video. This despite the fact that he pretend that its easy to do without it.
And how much does it cost?
these are 100% the type of pp lthat fall into the FLDS or weird cult things you see them and are like wait he recruited more dudes or more ppl to come to this THIS is the person they are recruiting
Dude was so proud of himself with his rift challenge at 28 I’m level 54 and I’m on rift challenge 33 😂
"In two months I'll be right there with them" (Where they are now), he said it himself these F2P games constantly update so in two months they will update again and the whales are going to be just as far ahead as they are rn. that's what gets people to constantly keep playing the chance that Maybe just maybe you'll be able to reach the finish line before the next update. that's how it was in Clash of Clans for me, I played for years and paid the 5$ a month for the season pass, only to almost get to max upgrades before they released the next townhall level. they know exactly how long they need to space out the updates to keep their player base on that constant grind.
This guy is delusional on his take, but it's also stopping him from spending a cent on the game. A curious case.
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Stewgaming is a great watch. He is legit
@@tvuser1 why are the only comments on your profile defending mobile gaming monetization? Begone bot!
Yeah every making fun lf him but he's not the one spending money on a trash mobile game
@@ld1065 well yes but hes also defending that trash mobile game with flawed logic lol.
This guy is the most philosophical deep thinker i ever seen no joke.
He flipped it from « pay to win saves you time - good thing » to « pay to win prevents you from playing longer - bad thing ».
I was not ready for that…
Sad thing is I swear this is how most people think now: they convince themselves they enjoy a game, then proceed to convince themselves that playing the game is unenjoyable and thus they should maximize their efficiency to lower their playtime, then discover they no longer enjoy the game because they're playing it like a job, then once AGAIN convince themselves that it's not that they don't enjoy the game, but that they're just "playing it the wrong way".
It's fucking sad, people have literally zero capacity anymore to examine their own interests and desires, they are actually incapable of making the internal judgment of "I like/dislike this thing" and depend on whatever source they trust most to tell them what's true and what isn't.
Pay to win saves you the hassle of having money as well.
He's not wrong. Lol. He's technically right.
@@LT-jc4qb And I'm technically a licensed proctologist. But if the court won't buy that from me then I don't know how this is allowed.
Same logic in lost ark
Guild name :Diable 40k
Guild Intro: This is a guild for players spending 40k+ dollars in Diablo Immoral. Also, a fan of Warhammer 40k and a fan of Henry. Whale to win mf. You poor? Don't play! 😂
i love asmon's face when the guy says "i do the same stuff whales do". got me so good
When he said "just believe" that's where he lost all credibility as far as he had any. Also, spending 20 bucks cancels his free player status.
_"Just Believe"_ = convince yourself that the game is good but it's garbage 👌😂
He lost all credibility in the first 5 seconds when he said "I can do everything a paid player can."
@@R.E.E.D. lol he can do everything except win probably
@@R.E.E.D. Yip. At 1:21 in this video he showed the scoria and explained he doesn't know what it is. Around 17:00 he repeats he gets all the rewards a paid player gets.
The man is so delusional he might as well be religious. I bet they'd love him at church. He should do promotion videos for Trump and get paid to be this delusional.
@@R.E.E.D. He lost all credibility when he cheated and got permabanned from the Raid Shadow legends and their content creator programme.
I still can not fathom why people like this guy have it in their heads that a few measly consumables in a video game like this are "worth" the same amount of money as a top tier (full) video game on steam.
He says he mainly reviews mobile app games so in that context these kind of transactions are normal to him and he's probably desensitized to the idea that the cost/value is entirely arbitrary.
Imagine caring so much about higher quality brain rot lmao
He is mobile player not pc gamer. I bet his brain would explode how f2p games are in pc compare to average cp games. Mobile games earn more than pc and console for a reason.
@@Arthera0 they are great business practices though, business is booming
Bruh, does this "gamer" never play a real 20$ or 40$ game? Sure it is f2p, but those F2P always temptate you to spend 100$ 1000$ 10.000$ even 100.000$, those ain't funny.
This guy not played Diablo Immortal Beta.Beta was quite fun to ftp and drop chances of good loot were reasonably higher.
Logged after release, played a bit, realised that good loot can only be dropped by star aligning or whatever and left.
F you Blizzard!
"Predatory monetization is okay because another game did it worse" is the same energy as "Murder is okay because a funny mustache man did more of it"
Counter-argument; it was only a slight sum of trolling.
Austrian dude never did that so don’t believe everything you see on those called -history- Allies propaganda books.
Not just that, Diablo Immortal has pretty much the worst/predatory monetization available on the (mobile) gaming market as of now.
The only thing missing is having to purchase Immortal in order to even see the title screen.
Stalin?
@@eh7602 I think he means the other notorious guy with the mustache. The one from Germany
“In pvp I’ll do crazy”.
Prove it. Your side by side with the whales. It’s not pay to win. Show us how awesome you are.
@Mercy save the world he cant, because hes not even ranked xD
my take is that he knows exactly what he is doing. he is just farming a topic that is hot and even knowing he is on the wrong side he doesnt care because we will profit out of it anyways.
I do pvp just fine f2p tbh in BG there's whales but there's plenty of other players to kill and paying money for stats doesn't mean you can play your class
@@bmark6971 we have one here boys!
He is doing pretty well on arena rn on the stream
clicking the same 3 tabs over and over "yeah i'm not sure where the paragon is at"
Standing next to a millionaire in taco bell. Me: "See you don't have to pay to win in life, whatever the millionaires can do, I am right next to them, doing the same thing."
😂😂
I love that analogy 😄
taco bell sucks tho, i tried to work there and it's terrible, never going again, taco johns is better
@@seawaterjohnmiller7118 i think you might of missed the point of the message
Gold :)
As a mobile gamer myself, I can assure you he is not paid or trolling. And this is the scary thing about the way games are created now. Where microtransactions become so ubiquitous, that people either stop realizing how detrimental it is to games ("it's just how these games are"), or stop caring ("if you don't like it, don't play"). Both of which leads to game quality suffering. But if you're a mobile gamer, it's all you ever known, and you don't know you could have had it better.
EDIT: I don't watch or know about Stew, so I honestly don't know if he paid or not. I was trying to say I know mobile gamers who think the same way he does, unironically.
Still hilarious that people with such a mindset even exist. They deserve to be milked to death .
This guy is paid off as fuck.
Add to it the most toxic reaction to anyone pointing out negatives. You must sing praise, or you will be called out/ banned by mods/ etc.
I play some mobile games from time to time.
Pvp is trash, forget it, if pvp is not core, and the PVE part is good, then ok you can have fun.
The problem is, for a Diablo name tag, this game is embarrassing
@@justinmadrid8712 worst part is I don't think he is. He isn't even being paid for his take.
I completely agree. We love players like this. I always egg them on in world chat too haha don't forget your daily bonus from BGs!
ive played dx2 and rockman x dive f2p gacha before: i think as a fan of the series, without paying anything, it was fun for at least a month. they did have tons of fun stuff that I enjoyed playing and getting which would have never been in a 60 usd game. but after that, i think i definitely was just grinding and it wasnt worth playing anymore.
i think 1 month of gameplay is comparable to a retail game so if you enjoy your time as f2p before you reach the grind ceiling, i can justify someone claiming a gacha game is good. of course being aware when to leave it; apreciate it for what it was and never spending any money.
"I don't remember what these does, but it's worth, the $20."
Alright man. That's all I needed. Heck, I LIKE the game and you're trying to pull that.
I lost it when he said that
The game is "Free to play" as in you can play it for free, yet in reality the game cost Blizzard millions of dollars to develop. Developers worked their asses off to make the game, even if you hate Blizzard for being scummy. What he's saying is for a free AAA game $20 is worth it. Don't forget that most Triple AAA games are around $60.00, so if you actually loved this game, you could technically even justify spending $60.00 just to help the developers out.
@@evanwilson9906 see, the problem with that is the game is total traysh. I wouldn't play it even if I got paid $60 to do so.
@@evanwilson9906 this game is worth like $20 tops. Also, you can pay the devs and the studio without it being predatory monetization. Mobile games just like this exist and make millions. Don’t be dense.
@@FXFXFXFX I wanna extend on this: I like the core gameplay for what it is. I don't like the Rift focused grindfest but I never spent that much in D3.
Main focus for me is how much they really wanna milk you of money, and in this case, this guy spending money without even knowing what he's buying. Just that he's...getting things.
The sheer irony of him saying "all of you trolls out there don't even want to play the game" only to then explain how you can spend less time playing the game to get more out of it is MINDBOGGLING, he genuinely has no fucking idea what he's saying but has complete confidence that he's not jumping through mental hoops.
That's just you misunderstanding him. He was just making a common argument about how p2w elements exist to help those who are not able to play a lot, due to job and other responsibilities. There is a difference between trashing a game while being too lazy to even play it and not being able to play the game enough.
His argument ultimately falls flat when you consider that these games don't just give paying players the chance to catch up, they give these players an ultimate advantage that can not be fixed with just play time. There is a cap on how much you can get with time played compared to what a whale can get.
Yeeted, deleted, beated and skeeted.
This man is a legend. He is trolling us not only by what he is saying, but also he put on cosplay of Patches the Hyena aka Trusty Patches aka Unbreakable Patches. Can we admire that?
The fact that right now, during a steam sale, Diablo 4 at 50% off is as much money as Baldurs Gate 3 at 10% off should tell you all you need to know.
He is really revealing himself when he says: "Just believe"
"I have this charge attack, it'll be crazy in pvp."
I loved that one XD I so wanna be there when his heart breaks and he delusions himself out of there with tons of copium :p
Stew Gaming: "He is enjoying the game"
Asmon:"It's yeeted and deleted"
Dang, I wish I knew Diablo immortal wasn't pay to win before I dropped money into it. 😮
I think he ment "fodder gear" n. , v. The action of salvageable gear to upgrade what the character thinks is good gear. 👍🤙
Asmongold in an alternate universe, where he falls to the dark side of gaming and shills for scummy companies. After the corruption, he starts losing his hair.
Truly malding moment
Only starts losing hair? The process has begun long ago and there is no stopping it!
Each hair stand is his integrity.
Starts?
@@natevoid9955 My bad, "finishes" should be the correct term
"In 2 months I'll be playing with the big spenders"
Also: "I play 14 hours a day"
Good shit. xD
Might as well get another job and whale at that point.
@@lv83bloodknight might as well get another job and just have more money to NOT spend on this shit.
What's great is no matter what a f2p player does, they literally can't ever reach the same power as a paying player even assuming flawless RNG because you have to pay for awakened legendaries, which provide pretty damn good bonuses. Literally pay to win per any definition, power that a non paying player is unable to get.
Even if they play 14 hours a day. (which is pretty fucking stupid with the amount of soft caps in this game)
Bro got lost trying to navigate the microtransaction page xD
This was two months ago already. According to this guy, he should be as strong as the whales right now.
Here's the thing. He can say all that and make it that high because, as he says himself, he has nothing better to do than to play this game for 13 hours a day every day. And the fact that he's STILL not keeping up with the whales speaks volumes more than anything that is coming out of his mouth.
The average player isn't going to play 13 hours a day every day. They'll barely play 4 consistently. This is his job. The rest of us are busy with our jobs away from CPUs and diablo. So we will never catch up. That's what he's not saying. I want him to play for only 2 hours a day without knowing the most optimal mechanics (because the average player isn't going to know every nook and cranny of this game) and see how far he gets.
Very true, I was also thinking about that while watching this.
there much better games to spend 13 hours a day on
I mean it's fun to play the game for such a long time ... and I DO mean with passion. Not treating it like a god damn full-time job
trust me, I grinded in Granblue in 10 hours straight with no rest and I still felt like I need therapy.
I play DI casually and have fun doing so, and generally I hate mobile gacha gaming. I beat the campaign, doing "end game" now farming dungeons for sets and other gear. I even got a 3/5 gem. Didn't spend a cent and never felt like I have to. I don't think average casual players care about leaderboards or PvP all that much. I know I don't, so ironically, whaling, p2w is like non issue for me, unlike it is for people like Asmon who play games 14 hours and care about being #1. I view this game as junk food. Have my Diablo fix while waiting for D4. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@Glotttis whaaat? if this this is true then your also just an insanely lucky casual gamer... a 3 star only has a 1% chance to drop from a legendary crest and f2p could only have gotten 3 so far? very lucky
I don’t think this guy understands what pay to “win” is. He’s confusing it with pay to “play”.
Sounds right
But why is "winning" so important to people? Can't they just play the game, enjoy it, and be happy it's free?
I have played this game, I'm currently at 60(28) and have spent $0, and it has been quite fun so far, but now it's becoming a bit repetitive.
I have played just one PvP-fight, to get that mission out of the way, that part of the game doesn't interest me, I'm in it for PvE. I don't feel the need to compare myself to others, and to compete with anyone else, and by having that mindset I think the game isn't all that bad. The whales has absolutely 0 effect on my gameplay and my experience of the game as a whole.
@@DrKeps It's the degree of fun you get from the game. Why would play a game that's designed to NOT make it fun for f2p as much as possible when you go on steam, spend 2 dollars and play something that's actually fun.
"You've got a phone, don't you?" Is when I checked out all interest in Diablo Imortal.
He fundamentally misunderstands the meaning of "Pay 2 Win." If at any point in a game you can pay money to advance your character, it is BY DEFINITION "Pay 2 Win"... The winning is in the advancement of your progress... How doesn't he understand this?
People like that guy are the reason they get away with this bullshit. These people should be ashamed of themselves. This man said "I love the way the games are monetized"...
yeah, seriously messed up the people that think a subpar experience for all except the highest payers is even remotely fine
F2P monetization models can be done well if it's only holding back on some cosmetics that are side-grades to what's in game or something like FFXIV or ESO where it's giving you access to later story & content zones, and even improvements made for late game benefit those F2P too
Deep fried frog. Its over for him.
Check his voting history, guarantee he's a Republican. There's a specific type of person who will actively defend being ripped off.
"I don't know what this does, but it's worth the $20"
"Just believe"
Usually, most defenders I've seen are rather anonymous. They only comment things, so it's hard to take them srsly, but the fact that this guy is a content creator make things even better. You can say he took copium as his meal and I have no argue with that. Holy shit!
To be fair he said the crest are worth 20 dollars not the mats that he said ''I dont know what this does''
Can we stop using copium as a way to dismiss shit? I’m getting sick of this term lol
"Im playing along side the whales, we're doing the exact same thing"
Yeah except.. Tomorrow that whale will be maxed out and 1shotting your whole team in pvp while you are still doing the same task as you did yesterday with no luck because you didnt pay for a petty system to get you ahead
Things like this makes me appreciate how fortnite decided to do their style of monetization. In fortnite, everything is purely optional. You don't have to give fortnite a penny to play and enjoy the game the same as everyone else. In fact there's tons of promotional things you can sign up for/occasioanl freebies, console exclusive freebies etc. Plus every season even without buying the battle pass you can still unlock some free stuff. Sure, if you want the full battle pass, or skins/emotes out of the shop, then yeah you can support the game and buy stuff. But everything is purely cosmetic/aesthetic. The gameplay itself is never actually affected by how much money you've spent on the game. Its just character skins/stuff you want for fun.
Unless you want to play Save the World.
Oops.
Title: *"F2P in Diablo immortal is awesome! Stop trolling."*
First minute of the video: *"You buy this" and "you buy that".*
He literally says “if you wanna support the game” are you watching the same video?
@@k1ler4m so you still think it's a good idea to start video about how you can have amazing time as F2P with a cash shop recommendation? 🤣
@@mic300391 im just correcting what he said not what I think about the game
It's not an add its even worse, its desperation. This guy was a Raid Shadow Legends content developer, then after having the developer take legal action against him, he threw in the towel and moved his whole channel and all content towards Diablo Immortal. Seeing this I actually feel sorry he put his whole life behind this game.
@@hungryhedgehog4201 I don't know but it's up there with name dropping Voldemort or having sex as a Nun.
@@hungryhedgehog4201 The only people who care about maturity are children and sex offenders. Which are you?
Edit: Who- what fucking 5 year old right now knows anything about Voldemort?
@@megkeeton find a therapist, get some good meds and stop posting creepy replies on people's comments
@@hungryhedgehog4201 Take a joke, lol
@@smthng bro not cool don't hate on others for reaching out! keep ur opinions and comments to urself you troll!
I love that the ad that ran before this video started was for diablo immortal. Effective advertising 👌
I played an "app game" once. The big whales in my kingdom forced everyone else to spend all of their free gold not on upgrades but on the anti-pvp shield so we could keep some resources. Later kingdom vs kingdom opened up and our whales could not keep our kingdom from constantly serving another king, because he spent even more. One year later their biggest whale still beat all our whales combined, and one of our whales could (if they wanted) still raid all of the free or normal paying players that didn't keep the pvp shield without taking losses.
The fact that old powerful stuff eventually become available to free or normal paying players doesn't mean the whale still can't crush and infinite number of us, because at the same time some new tier of item is released that keeps him untouchable.
I think we have found the apex shill. The kind of guy who would unironically get a plot on crypto island. he might even be the one guy who unironically likes Picard on twitter. ( and of course, he is a mobile game dev)
@@zefferss That's just what a shill would say!
He was the butterfly tears tweet.
Picard sux so bad but SNW is prty good so far
@@zefferss he is a shill without the financial benefit.
Ah hes a mobile dev. Opinion entirely discarded.
It's like asking a guy who works at a used car lot if the car for sale is good. Of course he will say yes
I love how he continually says he's 'doing the same things' as a $10k a day whale. ZERO relevant information to back up that claim.
He means he can also run rifts, just like someone who spends money, which is true. But you aren't getting 10 gems every time. So EXP and Blue+Yellow Gear-wise you are doing the same thing... Clicking on the screen and killing monsters. Just the result is vastly different
He can do literally same quests same dungeons raids only difference is getting obliterated in PvP. No difference at all if you pay or not for the content in the game you just kill shit faster but the stuff isn't even hard to begin with.
The ice cream versus dildo analogy has to be the worst and funniest analogy ever😂
24:30 yeah, there it is. I was wondering if he'd learned by now, but even 9 months ago he'd already hit the concrete paywall.
"I am side by side with the whales." - Sure you are, the same way a gazelle is next to a lion!
I'm disinterested in playing Diablo Immortal. I know myself as a gamer: I would jump on those "cheap" offers, and spend more money than I intend. I would be annoyed by the offers shoved in my face, and feel salty toward PVP Whales. I don't want that experience, so I'll buy another game that doesn't have microtransactions, from a developer who respects themselves and their audience.
Just play POE or maybe your not smart enough to understand the game
@@jiahao485 You're*
@@ocrapo9327 rekt
Just play every game made in existence and you will be more entertained and having much more fun playing than diablo immoral, even playing monopoly is more competitive than every mobile pvp game on existence.
Or just playing cards with friends is more exciting than being a shill grinding hours upon hours for just a few dopamine rush of virtual loot and then after that you'll get rekt by a whale on pvp. Lmfao
He doesn't think like a gamer, he thinks like a content creator. The cycle goes like this: "TURDS EXPLAINED!" to "I FOUND A TURD!" to "TURDS IS GREAT!" to "TURDS ARE BEING RUINED!" and finish with "TURDS ARE DEAD!"
It literally sounds like he’s trying to sell me it lol 😂
It sounds like this man wants the game to survive so that he can create a following to watch his content that's based on the game. He's not selling out to Diablo, he's selling out for the future of his channel.
It's part of the app game culture
Yeah I genuinely feel bad, he seems like a dude who genuinely loves Mobile gaming, and all the others treated him even MORE like shit as a customer and now is just latching on to something. Almost feels like a last try before he just gives up on this as a job all together
@@LM-nb7rj It's better to build an audience in a less competitive game like Diablo than try to compete with the major streamers/creators in more popular games. This is his niche, and he can get plenty of young viewers who want to watch their P2W mobile games.
Yep. The guy is trying to become the "Diablo Immortal" channel. Where all the players go for news and to discuss the game.
It's pretty sad to be honest.
My dude trying to survive out here
You know it's bad when anyone defending the game is relegated to troll status IMMEDIATELY.
im free 2 play honestly i enjoy the game
@@annoxx399 you enjoy playing shit games. congrats.
@@Nomoon777
But what isn't talked about is how relevant or not this point is. For those that aren't playing to rank on the leaderboards or compete in pvp, never being able to be as strong as you could if you paid for it, isn't the huge, blown up issue it's turned into.
@@xh0rsex yes it is. It means your experience will have been specifically crafted to be less fun until you pay. That kind of mindfuckery doesn't deserve simping, it deserves scorn.
@@Nomoon777 ok i dont play to be the strongest player i play to enjoy it so i guess theres the difference between you and me i couldn't care less for other players
Im on the leaderboards not sure how long i have played though. Is there a way to check?
Update in 24th february 2023... the new update bring us with more quality of life features, also with new globes that drop from monsters. New rune to trade in, fishing and the possibility to craft legendary crests with powder you get from rifts. But... the gem resonance is still and only pay to win... You will never be stronger than a paid character... Simply the reagent you need to buy in order to awake your gear is bought only with premium currency... It is still pay to win! Strongly pay to win! But for a casual play it is Ok I guess... You can get 5 star legendary gems, but once you get best in slot, there will be a paid player with awaken gear, that will crush you :) If you are BIS in 1k resonance and for example 5k rating, there will be paid player with 300-400- 500 resonance more and few hundred rating more, he will do more dmg to you, you will do less dmg to him... The guy is talking bullshit. The one and only free to play rpg like diablo is Path of Exile...The guy is literally talking bullshit.. Blizzard made all of their games if not full pay to win, then partialy... WoW token - gold - pay to win.... Just saying...
You know he's desperate when his defence for anti-f2p design is "i bet they will fix it later." If they really do then that's great, but we're not talking about a game that we may have in the future, we're talking about the game we have now. Speculation has no place here.
The best part is that developers only ever fix it in the first place because people complain.
Eventually normal players will be able to get access to the highest levels right around the time a new tier will be introduced. It is all psychological to get as much money as possible
"Mark my words 2 months down the lines from now, Imma be with them!" same video "I dont know if im going to be having a blast a month from now doing the daily grind." Got me dying.
@8:22
I swear they do this in destiny 2. I've got friends that go afk for months and login with easy win god roles within hours not days/weeks.
This is guy is what happens when an extreme couponer becomes a gamer.
Gotta love how the first thing he does is show you how to spend money in the game and how great the perks are😂
„I don’t remember exactly what this does but it’s worth the 20$.“
All you need to know about the guy. Luring kids into spending money and talking absolute nonsense. Tf is wrong with people 😂
“I keep up with the whales”
Then how come your armor looks like something from Walmart while the whales have angelic wings made of fire with golden god armor and a ethereal sword made of energy ?
This video kicked into overdrive at 22:20.
That can also 1-shot anything in PVE or PVP with default attacks. Not even using any skills.
mans isnt even ranked playing 13hrs a day. whale can play for less than hour buy some packs and out class him 100fold
Keeping up with the whales! Then a few videos later... NOPE! "I'm just having fun beating my personal records!"
I'll NEVER play this game as long as it's in this current state of gambling and predatory monetization like this!
I recommend everyone else to do the same. Gambling is wrong in itself but all the other ways this game makes money is pretty much just as immoral!
I actually do play this for free, paragon 500, I stopped playing after the first month due to the blatant pay to win.
I can back because they added new ways to progress as FTP that actually gives me just enough to do when I log in to keep my personal progression satisfying.
I don’t care whatsoever about pvp, obviously pvp players have other opinions that i can’t comment on, but if you want a Diablo game that requires very little investment and that you can slowly chip away at over time, than immortal is a good option.
I actually prefer it to d4… which is a gut punch. I was so excited for a new Diablo game that went back to the older feel. (Diablo 1 was one of my first obsessions) Diablo 4 barely excited me whatsoever during the entire campaign. It felt like a more boring immortal without any of the excuses of a mobile game.
Hot take, but there ya go.
1991- you can't beat me at this game i'm too good.
2023- you can't beat me at this game i have more money than you.
It's sad to see the downfall of Stew. When he was making content for raid consistently, he would make teams as f2p as possible compared to the other creators. He isn't dumb to say the least but holy shit is he COMPLETELY wrong about DI. The writing was on the wall when he wasn't critical of the game like he was with raid before launch.
Sadly his current mentality is rampant in mobile gaming content creators. They've gotten so used to being bent over with microtransations they try and justify every game they play.
The copium is real with him and that's sad to see.
NOOO, you don't understaaaaand.... you just have to play 13 hours a day so you can almost-but-not-really keep up with the whales.
You know why he wasn't critical before release, it's because he's on the forefront of mobile gaming sponsors. He'll be hurting his brand, and livelihood by being as ass like asmon.
@@heygek2769 His idea is so wrong, it's hilarious. He thinks Combat Rating determines your power and not hidden stats xD
Hes just mad immortal has terrible PR after he ditched everyone and banked his career on immortal succeeding.
If he claims this game isnt p2w then id hate to see which apps hes comparing this to
Imagine playing a game by a company that is actively trying to rob you while you play it and defending it because you can avoid it.
Did this poor fool work for Bally's or Golden Nugget?
Sacrifice… someone’s gotta do it. That’s why I sacrificed my dog for 3 hot dogs. So I can use the hot dogs as an example of why my dog dead. Yee boi
@@TheKickingPanda I have a feeling you were high when you wrote this xd
@@xXESproductionsXx A bit of alcohol was involved
@@TheKickingPanda damn. I was close
Last diablo immortal video 11 months ago. Did he have time to pay off his *investment*
one thing I can say, I am a free to play player on diablo immortal. my character I've been playing for 17 days now is paragon 50 and I am in the top 12 on battleground for my class, I average 5-8 kills a round. I have fun with the game though.
We're at a crossroads here. The tactics Diablo Immortal is employing here aren't new tactics. Blizzard didn't think of this on their own. Eastern audiences have been dealing with these sorts of monetisation schemes for a long time now, almost to the point where it's normalised in their gaming industry. The difference is that DI is now trying to bring these scams (let's call it what they are) to the western audience and set a dangerous precedent that Genshin Impact opened the door to. It's much harder to fight this once we're used to being exploited (much like how eastern gaming has become) then it is right now at the cusp of being exploited.
F2p games have many ways to be fair with their monetisation, and we see a lot of good examples in both eastern and western gaming. These games don't need to employ these tactics to make money. They just want to because it makes them more money. And we'll suffer for it.
Yeah, in my mind, League has always done it perfectly. I've always been F2P, and while I never was competitive, I never felt like I lacked for anything other than skins. But with the "loot box" system now, I went from a total of 7 skins in the first 7 years (3 gifted, 4 freebies) to 63 in the last 5 years (70 total) and 58 of those in the last 3 years. So this is one of the few cases that loot boxes actually improved the game experience, oddly.
@@Volair por que no siguen el ejemplo de league of legends?
@@Renekor Because it only makes A LOT of $$ whereas gacha systems make $$$$. They rather water down their games, essentially if it makes them more.
@@andreytsybiskin6831 I've noticed. I've played a lot of Gacha games, and other similarly styled games. But there's a difference between a game being on the western market and made for western audiences.
The games you see on the mobile market are made for eastern audiences, and expanded to the western market. Even RAID is the same.
DI is an IP that has firm roots in the western audience and was built and marketed for them. This is wildly different from transporting an IP from say China to the western marketplace.
It sets up a precedent to turn other IPs into the same cash grabs and degrade the gaming market we're used to. If this is normalised you could see this in Final Fantasy, Elder Scrolls, Pokemon, GTA and so on.
We have already started to be encroached by malicious monetisation tactics in other games, sure. But they face repercussions for their actions. It's completely different from the eastern audience where it's already normalised, who no longer even recognise they're being exploited.
@@slimeplort5529 You haven’t played enough gacha/mobile games…This has been going for a long while now, from your examples, final fantasy (other franchises as well; fire emblem/Nier, etc.) have this kind of games already, final fantasy has several actually and from 10+ years ago…Diablo Immortals hasn’t started anything, it’s been already here for a long time. You just haven’t been exposed to it. And to be honest, for one who can only mostly play on mobile, yeah you get used to it and actually DI it’s not bad at all, I know it’s awful compared to PC games but well that’s the price to pay when you don’t have the time of being at home to play on PC.
He's contradicting himself on the reason why it's not paid to win.
Him: "I'm right now on the same level as the whales without paying."
Also him: "I'll be on the same level as the whales in like two months."
That's the definition of Paid to win, trowing money at the game to get better.
He's never gonna reach that level
I think he means that in 2 months he will STILL be on the same level. Not defending anyone, just clarifying what he said and thinks.
Throwing money to get time. Money=time in the mobile gaming industry.
Fu to all the people who spend money on these shitty games, you are the reason why we can’t get nice games.
well he forgot to add up how much the whale would spend in 2 months lol.
by the time he is paragon 100, whales would be 250-300
@@parthpurwar It's not just how they will spend in the meanwhile but the combination of 10x Eternal gems and farming pesants and rifts .
Even if they didn't throw a single coin in game they will be superior in everything compared to that baldy.
"Let's try keep up bruh" ☠☠☠☠🤣
22:34 I've never seen a harder cope in my life. Absolutely beautiful
"13 hours every single day" yeah. The average "gamer" spends 1-2 hours/day playing any game. What a world this guy lives in.
Also, no footage of pvp, his gear, or anything saying he is side by side with a whale. "Not ranked" was hilarious
ikr, and here I am playing truck driver 14 hours+ a day...
Clearly, I'm doing it wrong.
@@seanwarren9357 I think 97% of us are doing it wrong. You live in a truely thankless world, rarely interacting with the people you supply. Thank you for what you do
@@seanwarren9357 14+ hours sounds rough, hope you are doing well
My average time getting to play any game at all is about an hour or two a day. If I'm super lucky. And all my game time is done on my phone because I am never home enough to give a shit about Xboxes and PlayStations. I get home, I drop a fat deuce, I shower, and I go to sleep. Maybe nail the girl if she's in the mood. I can handle missing out on two minutes of sleep 😋
There's no way the "average" gamer only plays 2 hours a day.
The amount of time a "gamer" plays usually correlates with age/responsibilities, if you're younger you play games more often because you have less responsibilities (like me).
I mean he literally just explained pay 2 win himself, "In 2 months I'll be with them" YEP 2 MONTHS can be shaved off by just paying. I think his argument could've been more like "You can still enjoy the game with f2p but you sure won't be able to be in the top rank".
yeah well you actually cant get to them at all. the chance of you getting the same gear as the paypigs is less them 1%
Lol, this video is my favorite, although I haven't seen that much of your's this one made me laugh out loud for real, cheers.
I just wonder how easy would it be for Blizzard to just make a Carbon-Copy of the same game, but put a $60 price tag on it (and no mictrotransactions).
That way, players only have that paygate to pass through, and after that it's an even playing field.
But seeing how maniacally some people spend money on a f2p version - why bother. I wouldn't bother either. Just make sure to maintain the cow milking device.
As a bald person myself, I am sorry for this member of our community. We are not all like that =-)
Lies.
The matchmaking thing being said, and this is but a small part of it.
"For example, in one implementation, the system may include a microtransaction engine that arranges matches to influence game-related purchases. For instance, the microtransaction engine may *match a more expert/marquee player with a junior player to encourage the junior player to make game-related purchases of items possessed/used by the marquee player.* A junior player may wish to emulate the marquee player by obtaining weapons or other items used by the marquee player.
[...]
In one implementation, when a player makes a game-related purchase, the microtransaction engine may encourage future purchases by matching the player (e.g., using matchmaking described herein) in a gameplay session that will utilize the game-related purchase. Doing so may enhance a level of enjoyment by the player for the game-related purchase, which may encourage future purchases. For example, *if the player purchased a particular weapon, the microtransaction engine may match the player in a gameplay session in which the particular weapon is highly effective, giving the player an impression that the particular weapon was a good purchase.* This may encourage the player to make future purchases to achieve similar gameplay results."