The ULTIMATE MTB POV Best Settings SHOOTOUT! | GoPro HERO 12 with MAX Lens Mod 2.0
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- The action camera debate has never been hotter than it is right now. With at least two solid brands and multiple camera options it's tough to know where to start. To make things worse, once you actually settle on a camera, there are WAY too many settings to figure out.
I've been on the GoPro train since the Hero 4 so for me I just stick to what I'm the most comfortable with. In this case that has lead me to the new GoPro Hero 12 for all my "action" oriented filming needs.
The highest quality point of view shot has always been the goal. For my mountain biking application with the Hero 12 I have narrowed down my field of view options to three different "modes" or "settings."
Hyperview (standard lens)
Max Superview (max lens)
Max Hyperview (max lens)
There are pros and cons to each and in this video you get an example of each. Let me know what you think is the best view!
Filmed at the WinMan Trails in Northern Wisconsin. www.winmantrai...
The bike is a Canyon Spectral 29er and I'm using the GoPro chesty mount with a foam cover on the camera to reduce wind noise.
Thanks to Erin Brannon AKA Fruit Punch @erinbphoto for help with this video, being my ride or die, and soon to be first mate. (or captain)
Erin's Instagram: / e.brannon_gramn
#mtb #gopro #hero12 #cycling #spectral
Valuable comparison, thanks for doing it. I liked the second run video best. For me, the less the distortion the better, and the more realistic video feels. Keep ripping fellas!
Absolutely agree! Thanks MATT!
Ok, here are my thoughts. For context, I'm currently running a GP9 w/ OG Max Lens Mod. I am super happy you made this video, as the temptation of buying the newest GoPro finally makes sense since there's a newer Max Lens Mod. Ok, thoughts...
#1 Traditional, classic footage. Great since it's 5.3k. You can see the extra crispiness, even though it's uploaded in 4k. Not a placebo.
#2 I think the best for mountain biking. It's allllll about that horizon leveling. Not only does it look awesome, but you can really see if you're leaning the bike over far enough or not. A lot of times I'll be riding, think I'm cornering like a pro, come home, review footage, and quickly come back down to earth that I'm still a puss and barely leaning the bike, haha.
#3 Would be awesome for Shorts, IG reels, etc. I don't enjoy seeing that much distortion for longer videos. My eyes concentrated on the fisheye more than the experience of riding the trail. To me, it's actually less immersive since it's harder to keep up with what's happening during your ride.
I prefer 2, 1 and 3... in that order. #2 is my favorite as it gives me enough sense of speed without it being too distorted or distracting. Definitely a time and place for all 3 settings though!
Great feedback, totally agree. The max hyperview in vertical POV is great… see my last short.
Also agree with horizon lock. To me that’s super important. Like you said, it’s cool to get a better sense of cornering in berms. It’s a great balance of wide angle and very little distortion which makes it seem the most realistic.
Great video/comparison! Another option is to shoot in Max Superview 4:3 and then squish it (using GoPro FX Reframe) to 16:9 and you get something in-between Max Superview and Max Hyperview. Another nice thing about Max SV 4:3 is that it gives you more options than Max SV 16:9 by just capturing more vertical, so even if you don't squish it to 16:9 you can shift your 16:9 framing up or down if needed. Of the three in your comparison I think I like Max HV the best, but it is a little too much (since it squishes the 8:7 to 16:9) ,captures chin and adds too much edge distortion...which is where Max SV 4:3 comes in.
That’s a good call on the 4:3 aspect ratio. I’m gonna try that. Thanks for the tip!
I'm brand new to the GoPro universe. I like the Max Superview with the Max Lens 2.0 the best. My understanding is that mode produces no compression of the image from top to bottom. It's just a pure, wide angle view with some fisheye distortion. The other two modes, Hyperview with standard lens and Max Hyperview with Max Lens 2.0, both use the 8:7 aspect ratio sensor, but then compress the "7" height down to a 16:9 aspect ratio height. This distorts reality and generates shorter, fatter images.
Agreed. Thanks for watching 🤙🤙
Great comparison. Max superview is great for 16:9, Hyperview is better for 9:16. I'm not a fan of the chest mount though.
Totally, the max superview for vertical video is awesome.
I took one thing away from this. “Always keep your little guy clean”
Just dropping life lessons out here without even knowing it 😆😂
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btw how durable is the lens itself? would you put a go pro with lens 2.0 in your cycling jersey back pocket without rubber cover or will it scratches instantly?
Good question. The original max lens seemed to scratch if you looked at it funny. I replaced it twice because of scratches. The 2.0 max lens definitely seems more scratch resistant but I’m so paranoid from past experiences I aways keep the lens cover with me. Inside your pocket is prolly a safe place but again, I’m too nervous based on past experiences so personally i’d throw the cover back on.
I agree the max hyperview is probably the coolest and most unique..I feel at first it’s weird, but once u get adjusted to it, it’s friggn BA..
And look at you JT 15k subs!! Keep killin it bro..
-your old car homie, Adam
Brother! Thanks for watching! I appreciate the support homie 🤙. Totally agree tho that max hyperview is super rad and it’s really growing on me. Hope all is well my guy! 🙏
Hello. I have max lens 2.0. There is a difference in quality between the 4k 60 images I took with the original hero12 lens and the 4k 60 images I took with the Max lens 2.0. The image is blurry with the Max lens 2.0, the focus is less, I get much better picture quality without the Max lens, is this normal?
That’s probably normal. Is the image mostly blurry on the edges of the frame?
@@TheDustyDutchman The sharpness level is very low, when you add sharpness in video editing, it can be the same as the video shot without a lens.
@MrAlperkilic91 idk what is going on there. I turn the sharpness all the way down on my GoPro.
@@TheDustyDutchman Thanks :)
Test #2 max superview 4k 30fps horizon lock 👍🏼
I’m 100% with ya on that! 💯 👍
Thanks, it looks great. 👍🏼
My pleasure. Thanks for watching! 🤘
I’d say max superview for most forest and trail riding and max hyperview for ridgeline and high exposure filming. Thanks for doing this video as I’m just getting a maxmod 2.0 lens which hasn’t arrived yet for my new hero 12
That’s a good point. Glad the video helped, thanks for watching 🤙
I like 2 but there is a strange lens flare or something a little up and right of center frame. Maybe the little guy wasn't clean? 3 is different, maybe too much of a good thing? More isn't always better. Arms, face, sometimes feet coming into frame from all different angles is sometimes distracting. Feels like being consumed by an octopus or something. As the lenses get wider it gets harder to fill more of the frame with the riders you're following. Sometimes real good and stable 3rd person footage of rider in front is the most immersive. Good thing the camera can do it all!
Feedback you didn't ask for, lol: I want a cropped linear mode that keeps a chosen subject in the center of the frame. I was reading you can record in an 8:7 aspect ratio. I think it would be interesting if it could dynamically frame a chosen subject in 16:9 using all of the 8:7 aspect ratio.
So it was sprinkling on and off that day so a few drops got on the lens during that clip (of course 🤦♂️) I think that’s the flare you’re seeing.
Totally agree with #3 it’s different, kinda cool, but I don’t LOVE it. It has its time and place but for me it won’t be all the time.
That’s an interesting thought on the subject tracking inside a 8:7 frame. Totally seems like something attainable with software 🤔
Thanks for the feedback 👍
I grabbed the 12 too, and Max Hyperview is a game changer! I love the auto zoom feature and no more worries about getting the entire cockpit in the shot. Solid comparison vid 👊🏿
Thanks bro! That’s a great point. I’m just stoked to have so many options now all in 4K 🙌
@@TheDustyDutchman I’m with you. I had to held off on the OG Max lens because of the 2k cap. It’s nice to have it all now!!
@PedalVision for sure. The max hyperview is so sick for vertical filming too 🤌
I think the max hyperview is pretty sick looking but id probably only use it when the scenery is epic. The second test, forget which setting it was, wouls probably be my go to. It all looks good though tbh. Shit has come a longggggg ways.
I’m glad you said that because it’s so crazy how far these small cameras have come, we are so spoiled lol.
Yeah that’s a good point about the scenery. That’s a perfect time to use the max hyperview
Max hyper view is a complete waste of time. It’s so distorted it’s stupid. I’d go with test 1 or test 2 personally.
I agree it’s kind of a gimmick in a way. I only use it for vertical POV
@@TheDustyDutchman I’m interested in the 4.3 footage and then cropping in to 16.9. Would like to see a video of that from you. I make bike vids as well and would love to see what that looks like. I’m in the market for a new camera. Always been a GoPro guy but dji and insta have been knocking on the door recently.
@overthebarzbiking yeah that’s a really good point, I should do some experimenting with the 4:3 👍 also you’re absolutely right about the other action cameras these days. I could easily go DJI next time around.
@@TheDustyDutchman I think GoPro 13 will be something good. The 12 is basically a slightly upgraded 11. Also now that dji and insta just released arguably better cameras we all know GoPro will be studying them and will better them both . Anyway I’ll wait for the 4.3 vid from you before I decide which camera I’ll get until the almighty GoPro 13 is released in September 😄. Don’t take too long the snow melts in April in Alberta Canada. 👍
@overthebarzbiking haha sounds good 👍
Did you film this after I meet you
Yeah, before and after meeting you guys
Max superview is a clear winner.. most enjoyable pov
Agree 💯 thanks for watching 🤙🤙
Max superview with a helmet mount would be great
Yeah that’s true too
Sorry, but the bottom of your chin does nothing for me. No on #3.
Number 2 was my favorite.
😆😆😆 you mean BOTH of my chins? Agreed and thanks for the feedback 👍
Test #1 & #3 were freakin awesome.
Nice riding !
Nothin' like Winman...
That’s for sure! Thanks for watching and I always appreciate the feedback 👍👍
Max Superview liked the most
I agree! ☝️
Max Hyperview looks slick 😎 I like the angle 📐 the trees come at you on POV
I’m surprised how fast the max hyperview makes it look like we’re going. It’s got a great feel of speed
For example, the shots taken by Go Pro here seem very poor quality and blurry to me, but the drone footage in the video is legendary, Go Pro cannot show the video clearly during movement, it always shows distant objects blurry.
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There are a number of factors here. Go Pro has a much wider lens. Most wide angle lenses aren't as optically sharp. The sensor seize however should give you considerable depth of field especially when combined with a wide angle lens. i have no issues with front to back sharpness (depth of field) with any GoPro. Of course GoPro are designed primarily to be used in bright light. In some of these instances light levels are lower. There are trees around and it appears overcast. This will alter the settings of the GoPro. You should control the max ISO and particularly the shutter speed. Most cinematic footage is shot at 24 fps however for really fast moving subjects this may not always be most appropriate. Experimenting with the shutter speed and frame rate will help give a more natural blue to moving shots. You can control the shutter speed on the Hero 12 so setting it to double the frame rate and then controlling the ISO would be a helpful method in these circumstances. The camera won't always make the best decisions for your situation in terms of getting the best quality footage.
Nice movie! thanks for the help😃👍
My pleasure! Thanks for watching 🤙
Wow
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Max Superview was my favorite.
I’m with ya. Thanks for the feedback! 🤙🤙
8:44 What ever gives me zero distortion is the one I would use. how's the linear mode? does it have distortion like on Hero 7? or is it improved? I use Go Pro Hero 7 Black with PeauPro87 3.37mm lens. Barely any loss of field of view, and image looks straight. But Hero 7 is useless in sub zero temps. The batteries drain in seconds.
I used to shoot in linear with my GoPro but just felt too cropped for my taste. I like to see more of the trail and bike in the frame.
Yeah the old style batteries were pretty useless for cold weather. The new enduro batteries are a huge improvement
I use chin cam setup, got Gnartec Ultimate mount. It's great, Alu mount, with rubber, uses two zip ties, secures to any full face helmet. Only thing I have to figure out is a 4k camera setup for winter use without distortion. Go Pro Hero 7 Black with PeauPro87 3.37mm lens has minimal loss of field of view compared to Wide, it's meant to be set in wide mode. But I want the capacity of a big battery and 4k footage. I have to find some footage of Linear mode on Hero 12. Maybe I just have to try it myself. Nice to have two cameras anyway. @@TheDustyDutchman
@mtbboy1993 exactly 👍
With the Hero 7 with the aftermarket lens, the field of view was about the same as Wide, but no distortion. I want the same.
I see firmware 2.0 has Lens Mod 2.0 Linear mode Maybe that would work good.
I only shoot with chin cam, not sure how that would work. @@TheDustyDutchman
Interesting. I’ll have to give linear max lens 2.0 a try. 👍
Did you color grade or out of camera? Looks great.
No color grading on the GoPro footage at all, and that’s with sharpness at “low” 👍
All cool but #2 is my choice 👍🏼
I totally agree 👍
hey does the stock spectral cf 7 have a loud or quiet hub?
Haha I was just at WinMan for the Onewheel Enduro there at the beginning of the month, and it was also my own first time using the Hero12 with MAX Lens 2.0! Been running Hero10 for a while but the insane FOV was too good to pass up, and love how the footage turns out. I'm even able to capture the board, as in the board that is literally underneath my feet! It's wild, makes for awesome footy if you angle it down a bit more 🤙
P.S. Your buddy had the right idea 😉 #NoHorizonLockGang 😎
Lol that’s rad. Next year I’ll definitely be racing in the one wheel enduro, looks way too fun.
I was wondering how the new max hyperview would work for one wheels because I plan to do a lot more one wheeling next year. That’s good to hear 👍👍
@TheDustyDutchman No way, that's awesome! Had no idea you had a board (or interest in riding at least), sick. I'll have to shoot you my Enduro footage once I get around to editing, I ended up taking the Fastest Overall Time of the day so I'm stoked to get the footage all together 🤙
@nicoaleman dude that’s insane! Nice work! I definitely would like to check out that footage when you upload it. I’ve been one wheeling on and off over the last 2 years but this winter I’m finally going to get a board of my own. This channel might be getting a sprinkling of one wheel content soon 🤫
I personally prefer #1 view. #3 would be cool add in from time to time. Nice review.
I really like #1 too my only gripe is that there is no option for horizon lock or leveling. The raw 5.3k clips were so crispy 🤌🤌 thanks for watching 🙌