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  • @starjbarrett6329
    @starjbarrett6329 Місяць тому +465

    Is sage’s durag or bsolz’s beanie coming off first

  • @cNogz3
    @cNogz3 Місяць тому +35

    Can we just talk about how Giannis has been averaging 30 10 and at least 4 for the last 5 years casually

  • @maltvegas8567
    @maltvegas8567 Місяць тому +93

    Jokic won an mvp based on stats and carrying the team a few years after harden lost in 19 (with stats and carrying the team)

    • @cdatruth804va5
      @cdatruth804va5 Місяць тому +4

      Yea harden not winning in 2019 is insane

    • @rickharrison1737
      @rickharrison1737 Місяць тому +37

      Giannis literally had better stats than Harden if you look past the box score and consider defense.

    • @kingdinodragonite3470
      @kingdinodragonite3470 Місяць тому +2

      @@rickharrison1737 Harden had better on-off and EPM (which includes BOTH OFFENSE and DEFENSE)

    • @akshaysundru482
      @akshaysundru482 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@kingdinodragonite3470Cumulative +/- always skew in favour of offensive production so Harden is above for that reason but yea advance stats wise they were relatively even

    • @akshaysundru482
      @akshaysundru482 Місяць тому +9

      To be fair 2019 Giannis is lot harder to win MVP against than 2022 Joel Embiid

  • @MOCdude
    @MOCdude Місяць тому +67

    Durag and Beanie arguing about Giannis vs Harden MVP voting was peak convos 😂

  • @rafita9702
    @rafita9702 Місяць тому +46

    That 2019 Harden true shooting percentage thing may have single-handedly killed how serious we should take that stat 😂

    • @udithsethu552
      @udithsethu552 Місяць тому +5

      How? Freethrows are part of the game.

    • @Madeguydo
      @Madeguydo Місяць тому +5

      ​@@udithsethu552until you become a free throw merchant and they don't call the same amount of fouls in the playoffs, the REAL games that actually matter

    • @udithsethu552
      @udithsethu552 Місяць тому +5

      @@Madeguydo good thing MVP is a regular season award.

    • @youngclc1242
      @youngclc1242 Місяць тому +14

      Being able to draw FTs and get to the line is part of the game. I don’t see any reason to use EFG% over TS%

    • @kennethdunn6650
      @kennethdunn6650 Місяць тому +1

      @@youngclc1242because in the playoffs they don’t call those same fouls

  • @QuanfrmPZ4
    @QuanfrmPZ4 Місяць тому +5

    SGA just casually avg 30 being tied for first in steals and being number 1 in the west on the youngest team in the league 🏌🏾

  • @phoonbug
    @phoonbug Місяць тому +28

    Solz should wear a durag and Sage should wear a beanie

  • @brocklee1009
    @brocklee1009 Місяць тому +34

    The real finals is Solz beanie vs Sage Durag

    • @ChefCJ
      @ChefCJ Місяць тому

      😂😂😂

  • @ViewtifulAJM
    @ViewtifulAJM Місяць тому +22

    ik the bulls weren’t relevant at all this season but having watched Coby for the last 5 years, this season genuinely came out of nowhere. Dude went from 10 pts as a rotational piece off the bench to our starting pg of the future with 20 and 5. That means a lot more to me personally, compared to Maxey quite literally just getting more usage. Coby clearly improved more but Maxey had the prettier numbers on a better team.

    • @itshurtt395
      @itshurtt395 Місяць тому

      Copy white also received more usage aswell right? I Personally think becoming a star and a fringe all-nba with good stats is better and harder especially when you have THE superstar in joel embiid taking the ball and points. Compared to someone becoming a good starter/plsyer from a rotational piece

    • @Dgenic
      @Dgenic Місяць тому +1

      @@itshurtt395 going into the season it was very clear Maxey was number 2 option for the Sixers so you damn near guarantee more usage and more points.
      Coby at best would’ve been 7th option. At not even leading the bench unit. He earned his usage

    • @itshurtt395
      @itshurtt395 Місяць тому

      @Dgenic yes but one of the reasons coby didn't get the opportunity he has now is that he didn't show that potential at the time. Maxey did, so when harden left he earned that second option. Obviously there is other factors like injuries that give coby the chance to show his worth but like they both earned it. And even in maxey case the opportunity is there now he still has to step up and take that jump which he has

    • @Dgenic
      @Dgenic Місяць тому +1

      @@itshurtt395 so in an award about who made the MOST improvement, you’d have to argue the guy who didn’t prove himself worth it before has made more of an improvement than the guy who already cemented his place as Second option.

    • @itshurtt395
      @itshurtt395 Місяць тому

      @Dgenic it doesn't matter about the status of the situation. If someone has cemented his place or not. Its about stepping up to that title and performing game in and out like you are expected to which maxey has. And that level is a fringe All-nba with good stats. Both have a case but I still believe 100% that making a jump from good player to fringe all-nba is harder then rotational piece to a good starter.

  • @devontyrell1969
    @devontyrell1969 Місяць тому +4

    If winning a championship is the goal of every season then can we argue that LeBron is 4-20 Jordan is 6-15 Kobe is 5-20 and Bill Russel is 11-13

  • @kidflashiv
    @kidflashiv Місяць тому +5

    In the 2015 MVP discussion, all this time i did not know curry was only playing like 32 minutes a game. I might change my view on it

  • @thomasbarry8869
    @thomasbarry8869 Місяць тому

    thank you for this great video i love the content keep it up

  • @user-ce9yl6bs9k
    @user-ce9yl6bs9k Місяць тому +33

    Beanie and durag duo will never end😂😂😂

  • @Jackson-ve7ml
    @Jackson-ve7ml Місяць тому +8

    I think jokic def one sum of the wrong years tbh. I have him winning for sure 2022 and 2023. 24 should have gone to Luka and 21 should have gone to Giannis. While harden in 19 should have gone to harden, 18 go to Lebron.

  • @Smashball987
    @Smashball987 Місяць тому

    I love that yall have discussions about the past, nice to reflect on the past nba vs listening to another Dallas Boston preview and if Ant is the face of the league😂

  • @daxmoney5011
    @daxmoney5011 Місяць тому +2

    1:14:26 I was in the 2nd grade and seeing my hometown hero KD win MVP was awesome and I had the movie Thunderstruck on Repeat cause I didn’t know any better

    • @Bigedub101
      @Bigedub101 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂Man we forgive u cause u was you young

  • @Galacticgroot7
    @Galacticgroot7 Місяць тому +3

    Bro im 17 and i am nostalgic for gumball this is crazy😂😂😂😂

  • @karelovesD
    @karelovesD 24 дні тому

    sage talking about luka defense rn is so funny

  • @tobiaskent6939
    @tobiaskent6939 Місяць тому +9

    The Giannis vs Harden debate is almost nothing like the Luka vs Jokic debate. Bsolz is fully gaslighting.

  • @kdotcondones.
    @kdotcondones. Місяць тому +2

    YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW GOOD 2019 JAMES HARDEN WAS OMG 😨😱‼️

  • @pieceoftrashkeith
    @pieceoftrashkeith Місяць тому +4

    28:53 A TO THE FUCKING YO, SOLZ?? 🤨

  • @ankhboldcrain9954
    @ankhboldcrain9954 Місяць тому

    Important bit of context for Maxey is last year Harden was there and this year he wasn't which opened up a considerable amount of opportunity and was a big factor in the jump in numbers

  • @tylerdinger9859
    @tylerdinger9859 Місяць тому +3

    the winning gap for luka and jokic wasn’t like it was 15 games. the gap was so minute that im actually surprised it came into the discussion for mvp

    • @itshurtt395
      @itshurtt395 Місяць тому +4

      It was 7 more games in a super hard conference.vthat ain't small 😂 3 seeds above aswell. Winning was deffo a viable factor

    • @tylerdinger9859
      @tylerdinger9859 Місяць тому

      @@itshurtt395 turned out it didn’t matter those games and seeding bc luka just beat 3 of the top 4 seeds on his trip to the finals. almost like he was the best player in that stacked west

    • @itshurtt395
      @itshurtt395 Місяць тому

      @tylerdinger9859 alright 👍 I could care less about the playoffs when talking about regular season award😭

    • @tylerdinger9859
      @tylerdinger9859 28 днів тому

      @@itshurtt395 and now your deflecting lmao. see all i gotta do is offer some context and then your flail like a fish. “regular season award” when he had better numbers than the winner on 7 less games won. a player that was out of the playoffs last year won 7 less games than the reigning champs. sounds like mvp stuff does it not, if you wanna talk “regular season award”

    • @itshurtt395
      @itshurtt395 28 днів тому

      @tylerdinger9859 as I said, they both have mvp stats. Luka beats him on the raw box score stats in ppg and assisting. Jokic beats him in wins and everyother stat metric and efficiency by alot.

  • @shaquill_oatmeal9647
    @shaquill_oatmeal9647 Місяць тому +1

    The main reason steph doesnt win in 2021 is cus they were a play in team

  • @whiteiverson4287
    @whiteiverson4287 Місяць тому +1

    Luka vs celtics in the finals.
    Sage and bsolz are about to go crazy

  • @ecoblitz3655
    @ecoblitz3655 Місяць тому +4

    I really thought AD should’ve won DPOY

  • @ejeshii
    @ejeshii Місяць тому

    WELL ACTUALLY PART 2 PLEASE 🙏

  • @trevdj14
    @trevdj14 14 днів тому

    damn I was graduating college in 2015 yall made me feel old asf

  • @Placd
    @Placd Місяць тому +3

    These dudes continue to dismiss Giannis in his award

  • @colinwolf13
    @colinwolf13 Місяць тому

    D'Lo had Jared Dudley scrapping with Ben Simmons, MIP just for that

  • @soraito1858
    @soraito1858 Місяць тому +1

    Are you a durag wearer because you’re Sage, or are you Sage because you wear a dorage?

  • @Wignation22
    @Wignation22 Місяць тому +6

    Ironic Sage says "Not Like Us" but both of yall out they playoffs. They are in fact like yall

  • @bobbyalistor
    @bobbyalistor Місяць тому

    ive seen solz without beanie few times, never saw sage with the durag

  • @mlg4lyf
    @mlg4lyf Місяць тому +7

    4:55 COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK

  • @coreyhumphrey3903
    @coreyhumphrey3903 Місяць тому

    The Reason Why Coby White should have won over Maxey is for 1 Maxey Avg 20 PPG as the 3rd Option once Harden was gone it was expected that He would have made a jump and then to add on the fact Embiid missed most of the year he was now the #1 option. I don’t think Maxey took this big leap his role changed which increased his production but his efficiency took a dip. Coby White was a player who’s value took a dip as after his sophomore season he was regressing and dropped below 10 PPG and for him to now be maybe apart of Chicago plans for the future because of his jump is a sign of more improvement. I feel like we ignore that context of Maxey Situation when discussing him being most improved.

  • @andiemali4841
    @andiemali4841 Місяць тому

    1:13:43 peak solz n sage lore

  • @omy2115
    @omy2115 26 днів тому

    1:06:56 a giraffe in the acquarium? Wtf 💀

  • @adtlewis6807
    @adtlewis6807 Місяць тому

    This mf Sage laugh sound like Seth Rollins

  • @JMA_21
    @JMA_21 Місяць тому

    Derrick Rose having a first place Most Improved Player vote in 2019 was unexpected

  • @ryanpettit7016
    @ryanpettit7016 Місяць тому +1

    Luka wins the 2024 MVP if Jokic wins the MVP in 2023 btw

  • @DeMortuisAutNilAut
    @DeMortuisAutNilAut Місяць тому +1

    28:53 ... bruh 👀

  • @thecupofbrew7955
    @thecupofbrew7955 Місяць тому

    Yessir Sage gonna hold down Ja 💪🏽

  • @o-glizzy8817
    @o-glizzy8817 Місяць тому

    Is DBook the Zach lavine of Kobe Bryants???😂😂

  • @Galaxydragon-wp1yi
    @Galaxydragon-wp1yi Місяць тому +12

    sage and solz can you guys do sage and solz play you're careers and do 99 potential on both of you starting in Boston and Lakers or on the same team random start in 2014 or 2013 🙏🙏

  • @AustinMulkaMusic
    @AustinMulkaMusic Місяць тому

    Idk man Colby in the play-in.

  • @ryanwinters3581
    @ryanwinters3581 Місяць тому

    When it comes to the 2015 COTY I don’t think that Kerr should have won it. I’m pretty sure that was the year he was out for like 30 plus games after back surgery and in that stretch they lost like 2 or three games total

  • @someone2084
    @someone2084 Місяць тому

    1:14:00 me being a 06 baby watching this part

  • @C6LD
    @C6LD Місяць тому

    Triple J took Mikal Bridges’ DPOY

  • @Pluto.2z
    @Pluto.2z Місяць тому

    10 second club

  • @RecluseSports
    @RecluseSports Місяць тому +1

    2024 MIP Cam Thomas!!!

  • @updownleftright9258
    @updownleftright9258 Місяць тому

    2024
    SGA - MVP
    Koby White - MIP
    Vic - Roty + Dpoy
    6th - Either one of Nas or Bogdan

  • @azzy2702
    @azzy2702 21 день тому

    I get we gotta factor winning in 2018 but cmon dog bron 2nd best player that year was a young Jordan Clarkson when harden had PRIME CP3

  • @Dsingle28
    @Dsingle28 Місяць тому

    Genuinely don’t understand the Luka over Jokic MVP take. Look at stats and win shares

  • @davidbarnes3188
    @davidbarnes3188 Місяць тому

    I just have to say this you're a good podcaster play your shows are way better when you have bro with the do-rag on it

  • @skipyou2870
    @skipyou2870 Місяць тому +2

    I know it’s all troll right but I do think free throws need to matter more. Cause imagine how crazy the stats look if the Jaylen Browns and the LBJ of the world are 85% from the line instead of 70

  • @ASeanDempsey
    @ASeanDempsey Місяць тому +14

    Who gave Derrick Rose a first place MVP vote in 2021.....take away their vote immediately

    • @prvb888
      @prvb888 Місяць тому +5

      it was some of us actually...

    • @ASeanDempsey
      @ASeanDempsey Місяць тому

      @@prvb888 Outside of love for the player, I’m genuinely interested to hear why

    • @alexgrissom3513
      @alexgrissom3513 Місяць тому +1

      @@ASeanDempseylove for the guy that didn’t know what consent means?

    • @eghoseisiramen1892
      @eghoseisiramen1892 Місяць тому +1

      @@alexgrissom3513yeah. Regardless of any off the court stuff. Keep it hoops

    • @alexgrissom3513
      @alexgrissom3513 Місяць тому +1

      @@eghoseisiramen1892 I hope you have the same energy for Karl Malone then

  • @thisguyzack9922
    @thisguyzack9922 Місяць тому

    In 2014 i was still in middle school 8th grade and couldn't talk to girls, maybe a few, but I was too nervous to do anything 😂

  • @isaiahlamb886
    @isaiahlamb886 Місяць тому

    SOLZGNG❤

  • @bones3142
    @bones3142 Місяць тому

    2018 I’m going LeBron simply due to the lack of respect I have for Harden and how good Bron was. I am a James harden hater

  • @studentofthesaviors.o.s
    @studentofthesaviors.o.s Місяць тому +16

    I know this is from 2014 and up but can we please all agree that Lebron should have won mvp over Steve Nash in 05-06

  • @SmartPsychopat1
    @SmartPsychopat1 Місяць тому

    Coby white should have won the most improved player of the season in 2024.

  • @PastLifeVillian
    @PastLifeVillian Місяць тому

    48:45 Lou Will averaged 33 minutes a game lmao cheat ass “6th man of the year” award

  • @Deme.goated
    @Deme.goated Місяць тому

    Don’t care what people say ant is forever robbed of rookie of the year, everybody got caught up in the Lamelo highlights and him being in the lime light wayyyy too much, Terry rozier drops 30 but let’s talk about Lamelo Smh💀and side note Luka did landslide in the MVP this year…my glorious king #77🤟🏽

  • @st0rmboi534
    @st0rmboi534 Місяць тому

    Nah Coby didn’t go from cool to good player he went from bust and waste draft pick to good player the discourse on Coby last season was terrible for Coby

  • @x872YEO
    @x872YEO Місяць тому +2

    harden was robbed in 2019

  • @Kin-hn1hd
    @Kin-hn1hd Місяць тому +1

    My mvp in 2018 was Bron only because he had all these stats and good record with no help on his team so that’s why I think that’s important

    • @mixedalfro9372
      @mixedalfro9372 Місяць тому

      I agree ppl tend to forget this was the year he lose kyrie and had Thomas who wasn't the same old wade old derrick rose ok j.r and shumpert Kyle kover and later made trade n had like Clarkson most of these ppl were like 4 option on other Teams

  • @Galaxydragon-wp1yi
    @Galaxydragon-wp1yi Місяць тому +1

    sage and solze can you do lebron and luka in the same area

  • @K0shimae
    @K0shimae Місяць тому

    does solz have the n word pass?

  • @StephonMaple
    @StephonMaple Місяць тому

    Born in 2006 fresh high school grad 😎

  • @dyingbreed6708
    @dyingbreed6708 Місяць тому +1

    2 views in 23 seconds, you fell off

  • @TheLazerBird
    @TheLazerBird Місяць тому

    Sage is hella trolling despite the fact that jokic and Murray (as a duo) has as many rings as Lebron and AD (as a duo)

  • @prince_24jay
    @prince_24jay Місяць тому

    The fact that Giannis didn’t win in 2022 or 2022 is diagusting solz and sage. Giannis was the best player in the world who had had his best offensive season especially when you’re talking about shooting the basketball as well( middy). Jokic shouldn’t have won it one of those 2 years 16:09

  • @Vexyademon
    @Vexyademon Місяць тому +9

    Luka mvp 2024 idc abt anything else

  • @Musiq_lifestyle
    @Musiq_lifestyle Місяць тому +1

    I don’t think you guys understand how TERRIBLE that 2018 DPOY was. AD had better stats than Gobert across the board and played 75 games (for context Rudy Gobert played a whopping 56 games and still won). To make matters worse AD wasn’t even second place for the award. 🤨

    • @rashizzles
      @rashizzles Місяць тому

      B-but the jazz had the #1 defense 😭
      Rudy's aura inspired them to be better on defense. 😤

    • @Musiq_lifestyle
      @Musiq_lifestyle Місяць тому

      @@rashizzles Don’t tell me he instilled the power of friendship 😂

    • @rashizzles
      @rashizzles Місяць тому

      @@Musiq_lifestyle Bro had the talk no jutsu in the locker room

  • @jonathansykes4986
    @jonathansykes4986 Місяць тому

    aint no way a couple of kids who cant pass a math class able to "fix" nba awards for the past decade

  • @holahovito13
    @holahovito13 Місяць тому

    Rudy Gobert got cooked so bad this must be a late upload lol

  • @Gandalf_the_Gold
    @Gandalf_the_Gold Місяць тому +1

    Jayson Tatum for mvp 2014-2024?

  • @itsjesse___
    @itsjesse___ Місяць тому +1

    The DMitch/Simmons debate was never that deep. People (including Mitchell) were just spamming the “BeN’s N0t a rEaL RoOKie” card

  • @Disxreet
    @Disxreet Місяць тому

    Wemby DPOY is a duh

  • @itsyaboishadow4300
    @itsyaboishadow4300 Місяць тому

    Rudy losing some fraud DPOYS

    • @machoboys8884
      @machoboys8884 Місяць тому +1

      I mean he did turn teams filled with turnstiles, a dying Joe Ingles, and Royce O’Neal into defensive juggernauts in the regular season

    • @y2shuproblem
      @y2shuproblem Місяць тому +1

      My issue with Wemby's case is that his defensive impact doesn't lift the Spurs from a bottom-10 defensive team to at least a top-10 defensive team.

    • @rickharrison1737
      @rickharrison1737 Місяць тому

      Lowkey Kawhi stole more DPOYs than Rudy. If I were to list my winners over the years it would look like this:
      2015: Draymond
      2016: Draymond
      2017: Draymond
      2018: Anthony Davis
      2019: Gobert
      2020: Giannis
      2021: Gobert
      2022: Gobert
      2023: JJJ
      2024: Gobert
      Love Kawhi but I don’t believe in POA defenders winning DPOY, no matter how good they are.

    • @christophergraves3113
      @christophergraves3113 Місяць тому

      ​@@y2shuproblem literally wembys on off numbers say other wise...they are literally top 3 when he is on and nearly dead last when they are off...different when Rudy is 1 when they are on and 7 when they are off...like what are you yapping about

    • @y2shuproblem
      @y2shuproblem Місяць тому

      @@christophergraves3113 it still doesn't translate into winning and the Spurs defense being at the top of the league consistently. End results matter

  • @salvatoresultana4058
    @salvatoresultana4058 Місяць тому +1

    The right MVP since 2014:
    2014: Kevin Durant
    2015: Steph Curry
    2016: Steph Curry
    2017: Russell Westbrook
    2018: James Harden
    2019: Giannis
    2020: Giannis
    2021: Nikola Jokic
    2022: Nikola Jokic
    2023: Nikola Jokic
    2024: Nikola Jokic

  • @j-rey-
    @j-rey- Місяць тому +7

    I still can't believe people are still arguing for Luka over Jokic. Jokic was better in almost every advanced metric (if not all of them), and their box score numbers are both equally impressive. It wasn't really that close. The Nuggets fell short in the playoffs because the Timberwolves were just a great matchup against them, and most of the Nuggets other than Jokic underperformed.

    • @TenPenceScience123
      @TenPenceScience123 Місяць тому +1

      The box score numbers were not close

    • @IllMatic97
      @IllMatic97 Місяць тому

      It should've been Luka or Shai.

    • @cdatruth804va5
      @cdatruth804va5 Місяць тому

      Either one could have won, there was no clear cut leader in the race, at least to me

    • @gamingwithmaya502
      @gamingwithmaya502 Місяць тому

      Don't think it's a ridiculous argument. I can see the argument, I don't agree but if you make the Luka MVP argument you have valid points and have some basketball knowledge. I just respectfully disagree, but will concede some points.

  • @K1nG0907MaliK
    @K1nG0907MaliK Місяць тому

    First

  • @9Teen_shots
    @9Teen_shots Місяць тому +4

    26 seconds and 2 views? My boys fell off

    • @DR638
      @DR638 Місяць тому +1

      1 min and 62 views is good. By my calculations they should reach a million views in 268.4 hours

    • @imbetter14
      @imbetter14 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@DR638 or 11 days

  • @Redd23556
    @Redd23556 Місяць тому

    SGA should of won mvp

  • @kingf-5gaming723
    @kingf-5gaming723 Місяць тому

    Just agenda pushin if u used the logic of Giannis winning mvp cause of his defensive bron in 2014 should’ve too 6th in dpoy and only a 5 point difference in points and bron was 56% 38% percent from three and kd was 50% percent and 39% from 3 but great vid just nitpicking😂🫡🔥

  • @shaquill_oatmeal9647
    @shaquill_oatmeal9647 Місяць тому

    The main reason steph doesnt win in 2021 is cus they were a play in team

  • @Disxreet
    @Disxreet Місяць тому

    Wemby DPOY is a duh