Toyota's VVTL-I system explained on a 2ZZ-GE engine. This is a part of the Toyota service Training video. For the full video: • Toyota Celica T23 Serv...
Just over 200,000 miles on my 2ZZGE and still going strong. Use Denso IK20 (5304) plugs in mine. Seems to help also. Regular oil changes. Lift bolt inspection every 35 000 miles. Keep OCV filters clean. Should last. Fingers crossed! But excellent engine.
Two cams in one engine has been the dream of Hot Rodgers since modern Valve Timing was introduced to modern engines. TČhe first attempt was made by Rhoads Lifter company that made special hydraulic valve lifters that bled off pressure at lower RPMs allowing thend came the varicammsystem which changed the advance or retardation of the timing the came to provide different duration as the RPM. Now we have this system which changes the timing events of the camshaft by advancing or retarding of the valve lift under different Rpm Ranges the engine will see during its changes in speed. If you put all of this together and you’ve got electronically actuated valves. What a great system from a performance standpoint and koninsegg already uses. Soon other exotica super cool cars will too!
ZZT231RyDa gts? Is that USA spec? UK and Ireland had Celica T-Sport 140 and 190hp using 2zz-ge also Corolla hatchback T-Sport and Corolla T-Sport Compressor also hatchback.
Yeah here it's Celica GTS and Corolla/Matrix XRS, and of course the Lotus Elise, Exige and 2Eleven.. I have a Pontiac Vibe GT featuring the same eng/trans $550 auction cars FTW.
Amd Propaganda We had TRD M type Matrix(1zz SC). But only 1zz were ever SC. I wish i could find the article where lotus and toyota had disagreement with Sc the 2zz in the toyotas that brought it and their lotus
I had a 2003 Matrix XRS with this motor! Toyota put it in the Celica, Corolla, and the Canadian-made Matrix xrs! Mine was tuned to 208 hp at the crank, and was dead ass reliable, especially if you had the kit to fix the oil starvation at high rpm’s! The 2ZZ-GE also has a full metal intake, as opposed to its sister engine, the 1ZZ that was in non-XRS models! This was the Best and most fun 4cyl motor Toyota ever made! It was made in partnership with Yamaha! (which Toyota owns part of) I REALLY wish Toyota continued this VVTL-i technology in their other engines like 2TR-FE and 2GR family 😢
What all was involved in the tuning? Just ecu map? Or did you make breathing mods as well? And did you lower the rpm lift point? I know in the corolla its about 6800 but maybe lower in the Matrix and Celica
@@carloscrod_ No, he's right. There's a Corolla T Sport VVTL-i. Same engine & gearbox as the Celica VVTL-i, but way cheaper to buy and more under the radar to daily drive.
We have the full training video online what we used to make samples of for this video: ua-cam.com/video/jbxErSDvQgM/v-deo.html We currently don't have other similar movies online. I can't really say why Lift never became as popular except for that in general vtec engines where easier to tune and get more power from for less money.
Toyota decided to focus more on economy engines to have more sales on the gallon... the 2zzge would have been an upgrage from the legendary 16 4age if they had focus more on it....my thoughts
VTEC was there first and is utilised in far more models than Toyota's VVTLi. Toyota doesn't have many engines like the 2ZZ-GE whereas Honda has lots of modern performance engines, all using the VTEC system.
@@bradcogan8588 Yamaha left the VVTL-i system and went to VVT-i on the 3SGE BEAMS. And as you know, the BEAMS is boss when it comes to Toyota 4 cylinder engines. But nothing comes close to the K series motors from the Honda motor corp. The K head design is something to behold and can withstand a significantly higher lift cam than any other 4 cylinder engine. Honda is best for 4 cylinder Toyota is best for 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder.
@@razeenmeyer9728 ye although those BEAMS engines were later than the 2ZZ-GE, it is a 3S-GE which was a bit of a dinosaur at that time and I think implementing a lift system would be too difficult. Toyota and Yamaha didn't abandon it as they've implemented it on engines since, just didn't make sense to completely redesign the 3S-GE for the sake of lift whoch the engine wouldn't benefit greatly from anyway.
They are very nice, sadly they don't use the engine any more for any car as the engine does not meet modern emission standards. But they sure would be a blast in small cars. Thanks for the reply
Indeed. Well I assume Toyota did not think it was a poor design themselfs. It's odd that the 1zz has a better pan than the 2zz but I doubt Toyota really thought these would be used in high G situations as they later did in Lotus models etc.
Yeah bit of a weird one. The 1ZZ-FE pan isn't really an upgrade like many think. It just has a windage tray in it. The 2ZZ-GE also has a windage tray but it's fitted to the bottom of the engine not the oil pan. Fitting a 1ZZ-FE pan to a 2ZZ-GE is just doubling up on windage trays which doesn't really do anything. Most owners who know they're gonna corner hard in them weld in baffles or buy an aftermarket pan.
@@bradcogan8588 Many thanks I'll look into this on my next oil change I'm concerned as the corolla had a lot of lean angle and I don't plan on changing the handling geometry.
Nathan Vonlanthen ah bugger I want to get one of these and sell my 115kw lancer not sure if it’s worth it. These would definitely be funner to drive. Are these easy to mod?
@@frasermate4729 Definitely worth selling the Lancer for. All of the knowledge I I comes from the internet - I have no experience with them whatsoever IRL so some facts may be wrong. As far as tuneability, just like the Honda B18 these are pretty highly strung from the factory. Fitting an intake, full exhaust and remap might grant you 5 hp. The most gains come from camshafts. With MWR Stage 3 camshafts, valve springs, high compression pistons revving to 9000+ rpm, you might see 240 to 250 crank hp. Add individual throttle bodies, and a 2.0L stroker and top of that, you could be pushing above 280 hp. These engines are expensive to tune naturally aspirated: just like the Honda B or K series. They sound great though. These aren't easy to boost either: the cylinder liners aren't made for boost and anything above 500 to 600 crank hp (obviously with forged jnternals) becomes risky. If you wish to go above 600 crank hp, close the deck. Conclusion: if you plan on doing just some mild modifications, this might not be the engine for you. If you have a few thousands to spend, then you could get good power out of them. I would tell you, go for it anyways. From what I've heard, these are great cars, very enjoyable, and come on. 8250 rpm, how can you say no to that ? If I got one, first 2 mods I would do is upgrade the oil pump (the stock oil pump is underpowered: a few seconds of oil starvation is enough to ruin the engine for good), and fit a shorter final drive ratio. The stock Corolla TS (or Sportivo in Australia) tops 70 kmh in 1st, 110 kmh in 2nd and 150 kmh in 3rd. A shorter final drive getting you to 65 kmh in 1st, 100 kmh in 2nd, 137-138 in 3rd would be perfect. Slight effect on fuel economy, but it would really wake the car up. One of my dream project cars would be a turbocharged, 2ZZ MR2 Spyder pushing 900 crank hp. A supercar killer for sure. Tell me what you think.
Yeison Alvarez what model is your '99 corolla? E11 or E12? If it's E12 it's an easy fit and should match all engine mount points as any other zz engine, if it's a E11 you might hav an issue with mount points as some E11's had a leanburn engine as opposed to the vvti zz engines even E11's with a zz engine might be different as the engine bay isn't the same as a E12 but it still may fit in. Also a 5spd gearbox will mate up to a vvtl-i but I'd recommend getting the 6spd to make life a bit easier
Unless you're ready to take apart your entire dash to rewire a different harness through he firewall then you're better off just boosting the 1zz. Just don't go over 8lbs of boost if your keeping your internals stock.
Ooooh wait you have an automatic, okay. Nevermind my first comment. But yes, get a 6 speed manual if you can. Absolutely. I drive a 2001 GTS 6 speed. 👍👍
@@chrisasimopoulos9821 I know bruh I know. No LIFT with a normal economy corolla. Maybe I could add one those larger egg shaped rockers. Now am curious to see what my engine looks like inside
@@goransvraka3171 Even the normal rollas go well. But the Lift Engines have amazing acceleration after 7,000rpms. It's insane. You just gotta change gears well enuf.
We advise to check the liftbolts every major service or around the 40k miles. And replace if signs of wear. The later models don't wear as fast/bad as he old version. But it's a cheap insurance. Also while the valve cover is off, check for wear on the high lobes of the cams. The valve cover has a oil supply that sprays oil on the cams. Check if the line is not blocked (by blowing some air through the line and see if all holes are open.) and replace the little o ring on the oil feed line on the valve cover. Hope it helps.
am struggling to get valves and timing kit for Toyota Runx 2ZZ-GE . I am in Swaziland Mbabane, which other car uses same parts as the runx, please assist
Hi Sibusiso, thanks for your question. The Celica with 2ZZ (GTS, T-Sport and SS-II ) uses the same. As well as the european Corolla T-Sport and the American Corolla XRS. As well as the Toyota Matrix xrs. And of course Lotus used them in their Elise 111R, Elise SC, Exige models.
I recently did my timing chain kit, new sprocket and vvti gear ⚙️ on the exhaust cam (be sure to follow instructions on install to avoid damaging the set pin) I ordered my kit from rock auto website. I also highly highly recommend replacing the oil pump while you’re that close to it, it’s been known to be the celica’s weak point.
all 2zz-ge engine are the same bloc. The intake throttle body/headers/ecu are different on the Celica than the Matrix/Rolla. My 2zz died in my 00 Celica and I installed a 03 Matrix 2zz. Very same bloc. the JDM ECU 20060 ecu is the better one to got for the Celica
Yes it's possible, mechanically it all fits without any problem. The main issue is that the ecu is of a different style compared to a ts. So you eighter need to rewire the harnesses in engine back and dashboard. Or rewire the wires for the ecu and get only the engine harness. Both are time consuming options. Unless you are attached to your Corolla it's better to just trade it in for a TS.
@@DimoS... if maintained well and properly warmed up well these engines can last a long time. The oil pump issue is not as big issue as most say. They can go bad but mostly happens when overrevving (accidental downshift) make sure you use good oil and replace the liftbolts once in a while (every 30k miles (50-60k km)
@@DimoS... Some issues with the motor come from people not letting the engine warm up and hard revving causing damage to the cylinder walls because of the coating they used. People not using premium gas with hard revving causing issues as well. If you take the motor to a track day and pull a long, hard turn, the oil pump might suck air and fail. other than that, the motor is pretty strong. my motor is 300K+km and is still fun to drive
I absolutely thrash mine on the daily constantly hitting about 50rpm from the redline and it’s yet to give me many issues at all, I’ve gone ahead and replaced the timing chain and constantly put new oil through it and nothing has failed yet. Just be sure not to ever downshift too far because you’ll blow the oil pump and that’ll toast the whole engine
Can anyone help me on that? I have an Sti celica '92 with a 4a-fe stock engine which is almost dead at this point. Can I replace it with a 2zz-ge and where can i find a 'new' one? And is there another alternative for better hp/relatively lower oil consumption ? Thanks
Look for jdm engine sellers. For example jdm Orlando. A low mileage 2zz and 6 speed transmission is around 3.5k. As for the oil the 2zzge does not consume oil it was first model 1zzfe. For good NA power on a 2zz I recommend a standalone ecu apexi power fc or ems 4 and get r9k tune. With PPE 3 inch intake and maybe intake manifold you can make around 210-220 wheel horsepower.
@@sosbabe2804 thank you for your advices man. The thing is, im in EU so its particulary rare to find a jdm engine seller here (and reliable ofc). The thing with the 2zz is that its newer and has 1800cc (we get to pay taxes for cc for cars before 2011 ffs). The legendary beast 3sgte on the other hand is older(so extremely unlucky to find in a good condition) and 2.0cc which is terrible for my wallet due to its tax unfortunatelly.
It's a completely different engine and was not made with the same goal as a 2AR engine. the AR is a bigger engine build to be practical and economical especially the fxe models with the atkinson cycle. It has more in comon with a B18 engine and to a extend a K20. They where build to be lightweight high revving sporty engines.
@@SVSportscars their a engineer on UA-cam here who swap out the intake cams on fxe and getting around 240hp stock. I got another question 2.0 2zz stroker is good or better as k20 swap?
@@rolldog82 I mean disregarding the specs and how it makes more power easily the kseries engines are designed for performance and are designed really well. 2ar is just a big displacement economy engine for suvs etc
It can be done but it’s not advisable because, if you had paid attention to the video.. it points out and shows that the purpose for extra lift and duration is to combat the turbulence associated with higher intake velocity. At lower rpm’s this is not an issue because the airflow is stable and flows just fine. Otherwise they would have designed the engine to run with the valves that far open 100% of the time. You’ll get little to no gains at lower rpm’s like that. Instead, look into other aspects that will improve engine performance
Eduardo Alvarez for turbo engines this is not very useful. In general the turbo will force air in anyway. Airflow etc is much more important in NA cars than Forced induction.
6000 rpm???? I newer go that high. Those systems are just pointles. Theres no problem of making power or efficieny. Trick is to make both plus to be clean.
Borut Goli with these engines you are supposed to go well over 6000 it's build to be a high revving engine. And the short gears make it easy for it to do it. It's a sporty engine and not a low end torque diesel. It's all part of the charm of the engine.
SV Sportscars agreed, also random question but im thinking of buying a Celica VVTL soon, what year would you say is the best? Some say 2001 is best performance wise as the Valve lift kicks in earlier and for longer, is this true? Others say 2003 is the most reliable?? It's confusing me :P
For the record, this extra complexity is worth about an extra 40 horsepower and 2000rpm to the power band, which is huge on a 110ci (1.8L) engine.
40kW actually :)
@@NathanHiggers69
The difference between the 1ZZ with vvt but not lift and the 2ZZ with vvtl is about 40hp and 2000rpm.
@@177SCmaro 58-73hp difference. TRD Sports-M 2zz-ge produce 205hp, 2zz-ge produce 190hp, 1zz-fe produce 132hp
@@artemreshetnikov5179
Talking about the stock engines.
@@177SCmaro JDM 2zz-ge full stock produce 190hp.
Just over 200,000 miles on my 2ZZGE and still going strong. Use Denso IK20 (5304) plugs in mine. Seems to help also. Regular oil changes. Lift bolt inspection every 35 000 miles. Keep OCV filters clean. Should last. Fingers crossed! But excellent engine.
Nice. If well maintained like you do they can last a long time
Two cams in one engine has been the dream of Hot Rodgers since modern Valve Timing was introduced to modern engines. TČhe first attempt was made by Rhoads Lifter company that made special hydraulic valve lifters that bled off pressure at lower RPMs allowing thend came the varicammsystem which changed the advance or retardation of the timing the came to provide different duration as the RPM. Now we have this system which changes the timing events of the camshaft by advancing or retarding of the valve lift under different Rpm Ranges the engine will see during its changes in speed. If you put all of this together and you’ve got electronically actuated valves. What a great system from a performance standpoint and koninsegg already uses. Soon other exotica super cool cars will too!
Indeed. Nicely said.
Great Explanation on the 2zzge! 00’ Celica GT-S
ZZT231RyDa gts? Is that USA spec? UK and Ireland had Celica T-Sport 140 and 190hp using 2zz-ge also Corolla hatchback T-Sport and Corolla T-Sport Compressor also hatchback.
Yeah here it's Celica GTS and Corolla/Matrix XRS, and of course the Lotus Elise, Exige and 2Eleven.. I have a Pontiac Vibe GT featuring the same eng/trans $550 auction cars FTW.
@@TheBlueCorolla The 140hp actually has the 1zz with only vvt-i.
@@user-vs7sb9wg2r what is diff between vvt i ans vvtli
@@harveymorgan1749no lift on the 1zz
‘05 Corolla XRS gang!
It's a great engine, particularly after 2004 when some revisions were made, the only non Toyota I know of that uses this engine is the Lotus elise
The Blue Corolla and brings the Ted supercharger
The 2zz had a SC when lotus placed it in their car but only the 1zz was SC for all other toyota models.
Amd Propaganda We had TRD M type Matrix(1zz SC). But only 1zz were ever SC. I wish i could find the article where lotus and toyota had disagreement with Sc the 2zz in the toyotas that brought it and their lotus
Pontiac Vibe GT uses this engine...
@@ezaquatics8991 The Pontiac Vibe GT is for all intents and purposes a Toyota Matrix XRS. Technically you're right though.
Love this engine, XRS Matrix :)
I had a 2003 Matrix XRS with this motor! Toyota put it in the Celica, Corolla, and the Canadian-made Matrix xrs! Mine was tuned to 208 hp at the crank, and was dead ass reliable, especially if you had the kit to fix the oil starvation at high rpm’s! The 2ZZ-GE also has a full metal intake, as opposed to its sister engine, the 1ZZ that was in non-XRS models! This was the Best and most fun 4cyl motor Toyota ever made! It was made in partnership with Yamaha! (which Toyota owns part of) I REALLY wish Toyota continued this VVTL-i technology in their other engines like 2TR-FE and 2GR family 😢
I assume it was to 208 HP :)
But they are indeed very fun.
@@SVSportscars yes 208 I meant! Hahahaa!😍
What all was involved in the tuning? Just ecu map? Or did you make breathing mods as well? And did you lower the rpm lift point? I know in the corolla its about 6800 but maybe lower in the Matrix and Celica
I've always been curious how toyota vvt worked. I didn't know they had one with lift though
Where can i found parts for this engine
Lift and duration nice.volumetric efficiency.
This is almost the same technique with honda vtec / nissan vvl....high reving performance engines good job Japanese engineering style
This motor is so amazing 😍 2zz the legend
Mines at 210k miles going strong
Love this video!!! Corolla XRS
Gotta love lift ! :D
My Toyota Celica 2005 had this motor... 190hp..
Vtec kicked in yo
Lift kicked in yo
Aamir Z that’s more accurate ✌🏽🔰🔥
God, I miss my 2k GTS RIP you are missed everyday 🥲
Got that engine in corolla sport
You wish. Lol.
@@carloscrod_ No, he's right. There's a Corolla T Sport VVTL-i. Same engine & gearbox as the Celica VVTL-i, but way cheaper to buy and more under the radar to daily drive.
This is amazing, do you have full videos of these? The complete guide? And why isn't Toyota's LIFT as popular as as Honda's V-TEC?
We have the full training video online what we used to make samples of for this video:
ua-cam.com/video/jbxErSDvQgM/v-deo.html
We currently don't have other similar movies online.
I can't really say why Lift never became as popular except for that in general vtec engines where easier to tune and get more power from for less money.
Toyota decided to focus more on economy engines to have more sales on the gallon... the 2zzge would have been an upgrage from the legendary 16 4age if they had focus more on it....my thoughts
VTEC was there first and is utilised in far more models than Toyota's VVTLi. Toyota doesn't have many engines like the 2ZZ-GE whereas Honda has lots of modern performance engines, all using the VTEC system.
@@bradcogan8588 Yamaha left the VVTL-i system and went to VVT-i on the 3SGE BEAMS.
And as you know, the BEAMS is boss when it comes to Toyota 4 cylinder engines.
But nothing comes close to the K series motors from the Honda motor corp. The K head design is something to behold and can withstand a significantly higher lift cam than any other 4 cylinder engine.
Honda is best for 4 cylinder
Toyota is best for 6 cylinder or 8 cylinder.
@@razeenmeyer9728 ye although those BEAMS engines were later than the 2ZZ-GE, it is a 3S-GE which was a bit of a dinosaur at that time and I think implementing a lift system would be too difficult. Toyota and Yamaha didn't abandon it as they've implemented it on engines since, just didn't make sense to completely redesign the 3S-GE for the sake of lift whoch the engine wouldn't benefit greatly from anyway.
I hope toyota will put VVTL even in budget toyota sedan cars :)
They are very nice, sadly they don't use the engine any more for any car as the engine does not meet modern emission standards.
But they sure would be a blast in small cars.
Thanks for the reply
i enjoyed the video, to bad it doesnt explain the poor choice in oil pans lol.
Indeed. Well I assume Toyota did not think it was a poor design themselfs.
It's odd that the 1zz has a better pan than the 2zz but I doubt Toyota really thought these would be used in high G situations as they later did in Lotus models etc.
Yeah bit of a weird one. The 1ZZ-FE pan isn't really an upgrade like many think. It just has a windage tray in it. The 2ZZ-GE also has a windage tray but it's fitted to the bottom of the engine not the oil pan. Fitting a 1ZZ-FE pan to a 2ZZ-GE is just doubling up on windage trays which doesn't really do anything.
Most owners who know they're gonna corner hard in them weld in baffles or buy an aftermarket pan.
@@bradcogan8588 what's the best pan to get who is making ones to help? Does the Elise run something different?
@@9freelandk the elise runs a standard one although most people who are taking the car on track use the Moroso pan or weld in their own baffles.
@@bradcogan8588 Many thanks I'll look into this on my next oil change I'm concerned as the corolla had a lot of lean angle and I don't plan on changing the handling geometry.
The Toyota’s corolla sportivo has like 141kw is the lift giving you an extra 40kw on top of that
Nope. The 141 kW (+- 189 hp) is with the lift, without it tops at +-105 kW (+-140 hp).
Nathan Vonlanthen ah bugger I want to get one of these and sell my 115kw lancer not sure if it’s worth it. These would definitely be funner to drive. Are these easy to mod?
@@frasermate4729 Definitely worth selling the Lancer for. All of the knowledge I I comes from the internet - I have no experience with them whatsoever IRL so some facts may be wrong.
As far as tuneability, just like the Honda B18 these are pretty highly strung from the factory. Fitting an intake, full exhaust and remap might grant you 5 hp. The most gains come from camshafts. With MWR Stage 3 camshafts, valve springs, high compression pistons revving to 9000+ rpm, you might see 240 to 250 crank hp. Add individual throttle bodies, and a 2.0L stroker and top of that, you could be pushing above 280 hp. These engines are expensive to tune naturally aspirated: just like the Honda B or K series. They sound great though.
These aren't easy to boost either: the cylinder liners aren't made for boost and anything above 500 to 600 crank hp (obviously with forged jnternals) becomes risky. If you wish to go above 600 crank hp, close the deck.
Conclusion: if you plan on doing just some mild modifications, this might not be the engine for you. If you have a few thousands to spend, then you could get good power out of them. I would tell you, go for it anyways. From what I've heard, these are great cars, very enjoyable, and come on. 8250 rpm, how can you say no to that ?
If I got one, first 2 mods I would do is upgrade the oil pump (the stock oil pump is underpowered: a few seconds of oil starvation is enough to ruin the engine for good), and fit a shorter final drive ratio. The stock Corolla TS (or Sportivo in Australia) tops 70 kmh in 1st, 110 kmh in 2nd and 150 kmh in 3rd. A shorter final drive getting you to 65 kmh in 1st, 100 kmh in 2nd, 137-138 in 3rd would be perfect. Slight effect on fuel economy, but it would really wake the car up.
One of my dream project cars would be a turbocharged, 2ZZ MR2 Spyder pushing 900 crank hp. A supercar killer for sure.
Tell me what you think.
Sombody know if I can put a 2zzge in a corolla 1999?
Right now I have de 1zz fe, stock one.
Jeison Alvarez
Yes it would fit engine would bolt in relatively easy. Hardest part would be rewiring the electronics
SV Sportscars thanks!!! I will try it!
I got the same car and it’s a 5spd lE
Yeison Alvarez what model is your '99 corolla? E11 or E12? If it's E12 it's an easy fit and should match all engine mount points as any other zz engine, if it's a E11 you might hav an issue with mount points as some E11's had a leanburn engine as opposed to the vvti zz engines even E11's with a zz engine might be different as the engine bay isn't the same as a E12 but it still may fit in. Also a 5spd gearbox will mate up to a vvtl-i but I'd recommend getting the 6spd to make life a bit easier
Unless you're ready to take apart your entire dash to rewire a different harness through he firewall then you're better off just boosting the 1zz. Just don't go over 8lbs of boost if your keeping your internals stock.
Does anybody wats the role of the lift bolts thn?
The lift bolts are easy to replace I have all the information on my blog "kennyfreeland.wordpress" let me knowif you need help!
Locks the shaft up
If only my 2000 celica GTS had the 6-speed.......... Maybe one day i'll fix that problem
How does your 2000 GTS have a 5 speed? Engine swap from a 1zz but you kept the original trans? I'm almost certain all the GTS's came with 6 speeds...
Ooooh wait you have an automatic, okay. Nevermind my first comment. But yes, get a 6 speed manual if you can. Absolutely. I drive a 2001 GTS 6 speed. 👍👍
@@brianmessemer2973 Correct mine came with the 4speed auto, It has M-mode but it's still slow.
Corolla Sportivo. Amazing Engine.
Sadly I only got the 1ZZ-FE :(
@@goransvraka3171 You're missing out on that valve lift bruh.
@@chrisasimopoulos9821 I know bruh I know. No LIFT with a normal economy corolla. Maybe I could add one those larger egg shaped rockers. Now am curious to see what my engine looks like inside
@@goransvraka3171 Even the normal rollas go well. But the Lift Engines have amazing acceleration after 7,000rpms. It's insane. You just gotta change gears well enuf.
@@chrisasimopoulos9821 can u mod an vvti to be vvtli
I got a good idea of the engine of my car
Glad it was useful.
I have a 2006 corolla xrs with this 2zz engine. Whata a good maintenance list that I should have besides the engine/transmission oil?
We advise to check the liftbolts every major service or around the 40k miles. And replace if signs of wear. The later models don't wear as fast/bad as he old version. But it's a cheap insurance.
Also while the valve cover is off, check for wear on the high lobes of the cams.
The valve cover has a oil supply that sprays oil on the cams. Check if the line is not blocked (by blowing some air through the line and see if all holes are open.) and replace the little o ring on the oil feed line on the valve cover.
Hope it helps.
Estás totalmente loco, arriesgar la vida por un video.
am struggling to get valves and timing kit for Toyota Runx 2ZZ-GE . I am in Swaziland Mbabane, which other car uses same parts as the runx, please assist
Hi Sibusiso, thanks for your question. The Celica with 2ZZ (GTS, T-Sport and SS-II ) uses the same. As well as the european Corolla T-Sport and the American Corolla XRS. As well as the Toyota Matrix xrs. And of course Lotus used them in their Elise 111R, Elise SC, Exige models.
Also the Pontiac vibe GT
I recently did my timing chain kit, new sprocket and vvti gear ⚙️ on the exhaust cam (be sure to follow instructions on install to avoid damaging the set pin) I ordered my kit from rock auto website. I also highly highly recommend replacing the oil pump while you’re that close to it, it’s been known to be the celica’s weak point.
is that gran turismo music?
Late '90s/early '00s automotive electronic jazz music lmao
all 2zz-ge engine are the same bloc. The intake throttle body/headers/ecu are different on the Celica than the Matrix/Rolla. My 2zz died in my 00 Celica and I installed a 03 Matrix 2zz. Very same bloc. the JDM ECU 20060 ecu is the better one to got for the Celica
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Kocham Celice 7, jest spaniała
Thanks for the reply. We love it as well :)
So it works like mivec?
Excellent video
Is there any chance of being able to swap a toyota corolla tsport engine (3zz-ge) into a tspirit from 2002? Just wondering, thanks.
Yes it's possible, mechanically it all fits without any problem. The main issue is that the ecu is of a different style compared to a ts. So you eighter need to rewire the harnesses in engine back and dashboard. Or rewire the wires for the ecu and get only the engine harness. Both are time consuming options.
Unless you are attached to your Corolla it's better to just trade it in for a TS.
@@SVSportscars Thanks, I am sorta attached to my car, so I think I'll take it as a long term project😁 (idea being: super sleeper mode)
@@TA-70 we also did it with 1 of our cars for the same reason.
Yea insane 2jz
How do you get the power lost over the years that the 2zzge engine has?
Generally these engines don't loose much of their power over the years. We have seen them often with 180+ on the dyno even after 200k + kilometers.
@@DimoS... if maintained well and properly warmed up well these engines can last a long time. The oil pump issue is not as big issue as most say. They can go bad but mostly happens when overrevving (accidental downshift) make sure you use good oil and replace the liftbolts once in a while (every 30k miles (50-60k km)
@@DimoS... Some issues with the motor come from people not letting the engine warm up and hard revving causing damage to the cylinder walls because of the coating they used. People not using premium gas with hard revving causing issues as well. If you take the motor to a track day and pull a long, hard turn, the oil pump might suck air and fail. other than that, the motor is pretty strong. my motor is 300K+km and is still fun to drive
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So Toyota basically designed these engines to be thrashed? (Ofcourse with proper maintenance)
Yeah kinda. Lets say to be used all over the rev range. And it taken care off they will last a long time.
I absolutely thrash mine on the daily constantly hitting about 50rpm from the redline and it’s yet to give me many issues at all, I’ve gone ahead and replaced the timing chain and constantly put new oil through it and nothing has failed yet. Just be sure not to ever downshift too far because you’ll blow the oil pump and that’ll toast the whole engine
My 2zz gets thrashed daily all the way to redline. Now has 388k+ miles and still thrashing that vvtli
@@abuelb I'm at 204k miles rn on my 01 gts, hows she holding up now 7 months later??
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Can anyone help me on that? I have an Sti celica '92 with a 4a-fe stock engine which is almost dead at this point. Can I replace it with a 2zz-ge and where can i find a 'new' one? And is there another alternative for better hp/relatively lower oil consumption ? Thanks
Look for jdm engine sellers. For example jdm Orlando. A low mileage 2zz and 6 speed transmission is around 3.5k. As for the oil the 2zzge does not consume oil it was first model 1zzfe. For good NA power on a 2zz I recommend a standalone ecu apexi power fc or ems 4 and get r9k tune. With PPE 3 inch intake and maybe intake manifold you can make around 210-220 wheel horsepower.
I would not recommend the 2zz. I recommend a 3sgte swap
@@sosbabe2804 thank you for your advices man. The thing is, im in EU so its particulary rare to find a jdm engine seller here (and reliable ofc). The thing with the 2zz is that its newer and has 1800cc (we get to pay taxes for cc for cars before 2011 ffs). The legendary beast 3sgte on the other hand is older(so extremely unlucky to find in a good condition) and 2.0cc which is terrible for my wallet due to its tax unfortunatelly.
@@GLARELIS4LOL yeah man the prices are ridiculous in the uk.
Yes I can be able to help you for that as possible.. the vehicle is manual or automatic??
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Thanks. glad it helped
How does it compare to 2ar-fe or 2ar-fxe? 2ar-fe is better than k20.
It's a completely different engine and was not made with the same goal as a 2AR engine. the AR is a bigger engine build to be practical and economical especially the fxe models with the atkinson cycle.
It has more in comon with a B18 engine and to a extend a K20. They where build to be lightweight high revving sporty engines.
@@SVSportscars their a engineer on UA-cam here who swap out the intake cams on fxe and getting around 240hp stock. I got another question 2.0 2zz stroker is good or better as k20 swap?
@@rolldog82 2arfe is not better than a k20, also k24 is a thing too
@@arcanevoid9199 how you know? Just wondering
@@rolldog82 I mean disregarding the specs and how it makes more power easily the kseries engines are designed for performance and are designed really well. 2ar is just a big displacement economy engine for suvs etc
This is why i choose mechanical undergrad
For daily use ,my 1zzfe 143cv is better because have more torque
2zzge is way ....way better
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How to make* ocv open manual?
Sorry, I don't exactly know what you mean.
@@SVSportscars trying to figure out how to make the ocv open and close like a v tec on a honda
only possible with a stand alone ECU. you can't change settings in de stock ECU.
It can be done but it’s not advisable because, if you had paid attention to the video.. it points out and shows that the purpose for extra lift and duration is to combat the turbulence associated with higher intake velocity.
At lower rpm’s this is not an issue because the airflow is stable and flows just fine. Otherwise they would have designed the engine to run with the valves that far open 100% of the time. You’ll get little to no gains at lower rpm’s like that.
Instead, look into other aspects that will improve engine performance
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So they yust made a nissan vvl neo in other words
It is indeed a very similar system als the Nissan vvl neo in the SR16 and 20
How difficult would it be to convert a vvti engine to a vvtli ?
You can't really. It's not that you just add the lift part. The head is specifically deaigned for this purpose and does not fit on other engines.
So custom head is needed
@@SaulTamalezX8 what engine are you thinking of?
2jzgte vvti of course. Just dreaming right now but if i can get blue prints maybe it can happen
Eduardo Alvarez anything can be done, will be a lot of custom work and indeed blue prints etc. would be interesting to see what it would look like.
421st like. I saved this world from that number.
Thank you for that :D
@@SVSportscars Nice video though, I would've liked anyways.
my 1zz celica is fucking gulping oil lmao
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Why wasn't vvtli in the 2jz?!?!?!?!??!?!
Eduardo Alvarez for turbo engines this is not very useful. In general the turbo will force air in anyway. Airflow etc is much more important in NA cars than Forced induction.
SV Sportscars true but integrating the system would be cool.
Eduardo Alvarez true :)
Eduardo Alvarez .bro dnt tink d 2jz needed dat.sick engines world best
the b18c still makes more power
Just saying....
6000 rpm???? I newer go that high. Those systems are just pointles. Theres no problem of making power or efficieny. Trick is to make both plus to be clean.
Borut Goli with these engines you are supposed to go well over 6000 it's build to be a high revving engine. And the short gears make it easy for it to do it.
It's a sporty engine and not a low end torque diesel.
It's all part of the charm of the engine.
Borut Goli but who would buy this car without revving it all the time? That's the whole point of the engine, that's the character of the car/engine.
SV Sportscars agreed, also random question but im thinking of buying a Celica VVTL soon, what year would you say is the best? Some say 2001 is best performance wise as the Valve lift kicks in earlier and for longer, is this true? Others say 2003 is the most reliable?? It's confusing me :P
Salim Ahmed where are you located? Country that is?
SV Sportscars UK
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