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  • @luminescentlion
    @luminescentlion Рік тому +3392

    Lud: "Please sign again Susan"
    Susan: "I don't even work there anymore"

    • @jkrillz6571
      @jkrillz6571 Рік тому +10

      Im obviously a smooth brain but who's susan?

    • @esco8778
      @esco8778 Рік тому +60

      @@jkrillz6571 Previous UA-cam CEO

    • @jkrillz6571
      @jkrillz6571 Рік тому +7

      @@esco8778 ohhh haha thank you!

    • @chickensoftware3032
      @chickensoftware3032 Рік тому +6

      WHAT DOES LUD KNOW?!?!?!?!?

    • @chillx1676
      @chillx1676 Рік тому

      Bro you don’t even make sense

  • @samgoesbam1108
    @samgoesbam1108 Рік тому +9373

    Ludwig trying to stay out of mild controversy for three seconds:

    • @BoboFerre
      @BoboFerre Рік тому +19

      @lShowSрееd shorts 🅥 no i haven't been looking for a cp clip my guy that not 18+

    • @mochisharvey
      @mochisharvey Рік тому +55

      @@christmashorrorstoriesanimated @ishowsd4901 2 bots, 1 of them is making fun of the other bot, what a day to be alive

    • @seam5818
      @seam5818 Рік тому +7

      Nah. Not mild. This is equivalent to sending a link of porn to multiple minors on purpose.

    • @kanavkohli794
      @kanavkohli794 Рік тому +15

      Nah they are all liars. The original video criticizing them said that QT did Fansly ads right after mario Kart kids stuff, thats why it was Immoral. Both Critikal and Ludwig, strawmanned that into "Is putting fansly ads ok in general" Lmao. Shooting at straws, actually decrepit and manipulative losers.

    • @Paralax3033
      @Paralax3033 Рік тому +71

      @@kanavkohli794 the only loser here is the one copy and pasting the same message like a bot as if you’re going to convince anyone to change what they think about ludwig or charlie

  • @plznotmonday
    @plznotmonday Рік тому +1023

    I'm just here appreciating how clean he got his room. Looks nice.

    • @HiKingMargo
      @HiKingMargo Рік тому +3

      Same 😆

    • @ria_x_rose
      @ria_x_rose Рік тому +40

      But the cat toys are missing....how will coots serve us ramen now 😭

    • @plznotmonday
      @plznotmonday Рік тому +6

      @Maria Rose true I didn't even think about that. We'll have to get more next time he does an amazon stream

    • @XeniaGrae
      @XeniaGrae Рік тому +1

      Yeah, me too! Wasn't going to comment when I first saw a video with this new background but I just left a comment on this video asking what's that in the bg. I assume a realistic cardboard cut out? But then who is it. Lol its one of the only things in the room and I didn't see it before, so it was certainly a decision. So I am now curious hahaha

    • @plznotmonday
      @plznotmonday Рік тому +5

      @Xenia Grae if your talking about the person in the background that's a statue of Jackie Chan

  • @EmsJems1
    @EmsJems1 Рік тому +282

    What is funny is creators usually get their sponsors in trouble but this time a sponsor got the creators in trouble lmao

    • @vig0s221
      @vig0s221 Рік тому +5

      Very disappointed that QT and Lid would willingly advertise adult content knowing full well their audience is mostly kids under 18. Makes me sad to know they’re “morals” and “ethics” includes exposing kids to this content.

    • @Chahase
      @Chahase Рік тому +15

      @@vig0s221 70% of Ludwigs viewers are actually 18-30 years old so since he has that info he did that sponsor because most of his viewers are adults and teens.

    • @timelordtori
      @timelordtori Рік тому +11

      @@vig0s221 UA-cam kids exists for a reason. None of this content is marked as “appropriate for kids”, so it’s the parents’ responsibility

    • @EmsJems1
      @EmsJems1 Рік тому

      @@vig0s221 Highly doubt most of the people watching that were under the age of 18. While I dont think this ad was great, it really wasnt the end of the world. You think dudes in highschool arent watching porn on the daily? Youre crazy. The streamer who won just chatting literally got jerked off on streah. QT needed sponsors for an event and Fansly is a huge sponsor of most of these streamer events because a lot of the creators on this site you think is so family friendly otherwise are on there making adult content. Even so, QT admitted she did not screen this ad first and regrets that. But lets not act like its the streamer's responsibility to monitor the sites their children viewers watch.

    • @skittlescopes4832
      @skittlescopes4832 3 місяці тому

      yea kinda disgusting. Very obviously majority audience is 12-21... People saying otherwise are clearly coping.
      Either way, they advertised it on TWITCH awards, not in their regular video or sum

  • @shigas7226
    @shigas7226 Рік тому +3077

    Lud saying "thanks Susan please sign me again" have the same energy as calling your gf the name of your ex while asking for head

    • @KaxMerg
      @KaxMerg Рік тому +39

      me personally i wouldnt be doing that.

    • @NOBODY-oq1xr
      @NOBODY-oq1xr Рік тому +14

      whats a gf ?

    • @VixeyTeh
      @VixeyTeh Рік тому +98

      ​@@NOBODY-oq1xr
      gluten free?
      Garlic fresh?
      Giraffes father
      Gay flounce
      Goanna frills...

    • @pkmblack303
      @pkmblack303 Рік тому +71

      good friend

    • @Nate-rg9vt
      @Nate-rg9vt Рік тому +4

      @@pkmblack303 ayo 🧐

  • @hunterroudebush
    @hunterroudebush Рік тому +2254

    Charlie shitting on Fansly and Lud shitting on GFuel feels like watching my parents fight before their divorce all over again. YOURE TEARING THIS FAMILY APART!

    • @TruckMan-di9ng
      @TruckMan-di9ng Рік тому +52

      Feels even worse when most of the other sponsors he mentioned sponsored Charlie’s podcast for a while too

    • @MrImaWizard
      @MrImaWizard Рік тому +162

      I think they are mature enough to simply disagree respectfully and not let it hurt their relationship

    • @ShadowMewto
      @ShadowMewto Рік тому +48

      @@MrImaWizard I think the original commenter (incorrectly) assumed you were mature enough to get the joke

    • @MrImaWizard
      @MrImaWizard Рік тому

      @ShadowMewto it's a joke based in a real assumption that they are lowkey beefing, but go ahead and be a little cunt I really don't expect much less from UA-cam comment sections.

    • @Quackleb
      @Quackleb Рік тому +18

      @@ShadowMewto that was uncalled for, does insulting people in the youtube comments section make you feel good about yourself or something? Why did you choose to comment that

  • @gareth4348
    @gareth4348 Рік тому +159

    I didn't notice the fact check sheet until this episode. Love that it exists, its the kind of thing you need for this kind of channel

    • @utikt
      @utikt Рік тому +6

      Damn I wish every commentary/news channel had a fact check. It feels much more transparent

    • @wildbanana5527
      @wildbanana5527 Рік тому +2

      I read your comment, went up to find it, didn't find it, returned here to see if I read correctly, then went back up again, and after looking very carefully, I found it. I would have never noticed it

    • @Benw8888
      @Benw8888 Рік тому

      he presented it in a mogul mail video titled "I lied", which is where I heard of it.

  • @greentornadofx
    @greentornadofx Рік тому +142

    Mogul mail seems to always be in trouble. You should take tips from Ludwig, he isn’t in trouble much.

  • @Whotfisbryce
    @Whotfisbryce Рік тому +2867

    I love how both Charlie and mogul mail went dark mode for this one 💀

    • @alter579
      @alter579 Рік тому +61

      No longer ludwig, now mogul mail

    • @BoboFerre
      @BoboFerre Рік тому +10

      ​@Ben no i haven't been looking for a cp clip my guy that not 18+

    • @weightsinfish
      @weightsinfish Рік тому +3

      Hi! I’m new to the Mogul Mail world & have a question- have him & Charlie ever met in person before? 👀 I need this crossover.

    • @h5gamer798
      @h5gamer798 Рік тому +30

      @@weightsinfish they are business partners and great friends it is Indeed a sick crossover

    • @weightsinfish
      @weightsinfish Рік тому +5

      @@h5gamer798 You are amazing for answering. 🙏 Thank you so much! Now I need to dive more into this. Love it!!!

  • @Bagel_Cake
    @Bagel_Cake Рік тому +7450

    Lud really said “f*** them kids” and I’m all for it

    • @DarkestKnightshade
      @DarkestKnightshade Рік тому +166

      Hmmm 🤭🤫🤔
      Sang a different tune when it was about other people outside his friend group
      Explanation because someone was too dense: Someone replied to me "go outside, you're too invested" for the original quick reply 😄 Basically "don't call out my streamer's hypocrisy when it comes to promoting adult stuff to child audiences". I think they need to go outside instead, I'm not really a fan of any twitch streamer. And yes imo gambling and flat out showing pr0n like Aidan and train on stream is worse, but that doesn't lessen the fact that promoting an adult website right after a mario kart ad to an audience of mostly children is still ironic, especially after their previous criticism of train. That's all, have a good day 😊☺🙂🤗😌✌

    • @AlexAnteroLammikko
      @AlexAnteroLammikko Рік тому +54

      Phrasing

    • @kaleb51
      @kaleb51 Рік тому +19

      but what about the kids

    • @kanavkohli794
      @kanavkohli794 Рік тому +76

      Nah they are all liars. The original video criticizing them said that QT did Fansly ads right after mario Kart kids stuff, thats why it was Immoral. Both Critikal and Ludwig, strawmanned that into "Is putting fansly ads ok in general" Lmao. Shooting at straws, actually decrepit and manipulative losers..

    • @ryukami404
      @ryukami404 Рік тому +131

      @@kanavkohli794 And yet you still take time out of your day to watch the videos and complain about it online.
      And before you try to play the "Well you're doing the same thing!" card. I am aware, I just don't care enough to cherry pick everything I watch.

  • @L3thalBones
    @L3thalBones Рік тому +572

    I think the problem, as Charlie pointed out, is Fansly isn't age gated to 18+; and probably because if they did they wouldn't get to advertise on places like twitch as much as they do.

    • @ElmoRitter
      @ElmoRitter Рік тому +76

      FR this unironically feels like when sneako was trying to debate why cuties is ok. It's like- dude. Kids. That's where the guardrails are, even in the european union.

    • @frosthammer917
      @frosthammer917 Рік тому +74

      Well Fansly tries to appear as an 18+ site. But then seem to purpously have almost no check on their customers actually being 18. I don't think its to get twitch sponsorships. Nobody who sponsors them thinks they are anything but 18+. I think its to get the teenager clientel that is probably quite lucrative to exploit.

    • @PotatoPlup
      @PotatoPlup Рік тому +40

      Plus the argument saying it takes some authorization and it takes time to even find the 18+ content. I literally just pressed authorized and was allowed on the site instantly and was immediately greeted with porn, didn't even need to scroll

    • @mightyoreo
      @mightyoreo Рік тому

      ok so you guys have not looked at a single titty online until you turned 18? who cares, they allow cool events to happen bc they pay way more than any other sponsor currently, they arent as potentially harmful as some other shit like gambling, and teens will watch porn anyway. i think whatever is on fansly is way better and less damaging than some of the insane stuff you can find on pornhub

    • @Tom_Hillman
      @Tom_Hillman Рік тому +20

      Well first off no parent should be letting their kid watch Ludwig under the age of 15 or 16 so let's say anyone under that is a victim of bad parenting. Then, when we see the sponsorship, all its really saying is 'Hi, this is an adult content site, adult content sites exist.' Newsflash, every 16 year old already knows that and probably already has a favourite porn site (none of which are age gated) Once again, if you think that fact is an issue which is fair, maybe the parents should restrict their internet access.

  • @AlexTreeceLives
    @AlexTreeceLives Рік тому +323

    I think the two main issues which should (and hopefully will be) addressed RE Fansly are:
    1) Their sign in with twitch option allows underage users (13+) to create accounts and access adult content - this should be resolved technically and is not on streamers to fix
    2) The 'see which of your favourite streamers already use Fansly' line of advertising reinforces the unhlepful perspective that all female streamers are current or future/potential adult content creators. I'm not sure what you can do about that necessarily, but having the ad run during QT's event after her understandable stance during the hot tub meta (I don't want to be in the same bucket as adult content creators and have chat sexualise me as I do normal streams) is really unfortunate.
    Personally, I don't have an issue with Fansly sponsoring cool events; they appear to be pretty good to their platform's creators and users, but they need a more robust age gate to be seen as a legitimate entity and streamers/UA-camrs need to consider if the brand aligns with their values, as Lud outlines.

    • @purpl3spartan
      @purpl3spartan Рік тому +3

      Yep this

    • @Ray-zy7vb
      @Ray-zy7vb Рік тому +35

      this. i didn’t really like the ad but i don’t think the blame is on QT i think it’s just how fansly handled it that was bad. sure people could argue qt should have watched the ads but… she literally had probably hundreds of other things to think about leading into the event and she just assumed the ad would be normal. i think that’s a normal thing to assume and just forget to double check on. it sucks that she can throw such a successful big event and people are mad about a 30 second thing- she’s not a whole entire company running the show, she’s a person. fansly is a whole ass company that should maybe do better

    • @urfren6510
      @urfren6510 Рік тому

      This!!! Its not that it's on a child or adult friendly stream it's that it's on a website that allows kids onto it.

    • @radiomuzic
      @radiomuzic Рік тому

      Agreed!!

    • @ps1hagridoufofcharacter
      @ps1hagridoufofcharacter Рік тому +3

      that first point is really eye-opening holy shit

  • @aidanphilip2288
    @aidanphilip2288 Рік тому +507

    Ludwig said "I only get them from their views" and I immediately got blasted by an ad. Whether that was intentional or not, that was the most ludwig thing ever.

    • @psgamer-il2pt
      @psgamer-il2pt Рік тому +5

      Yeah that's how every single UA-camr makes money?

    • @XeniaGrae
      @XeniaGrae Рік тому

      Somr comments and questions i have for you as someone using UA-cam without paying for premium to get rid of ads... (I can see how the cost would be irritating but I don't think it's prohibitive.... I have another acct i don't pay for premium on bc I never started making the planned content due to unforeseen life circumstances. But i got to see how obscenely intrusive ads are on here in late 2021 UT may be even worse by now! I would simply not use the platform if premium did not exist. [E.g. i no longer watch videos in my fb feed bc there's like 3 ads for a very short video... and i found the frequency of real ads then also many more "hidden" ads on tiktok too annoying and often watch that content when the creators reupload elsewhere and to be fair, all of those other platforms +views are much more profitable than tiktok where the only money is in getting sponsorships despite plenty of ads on the app...] . But before i had it, the ad situation on here was not as EXTREME as it is now! How users can tolerate it is beyond me!
      SN: Had also planned to start a Fansly profile in 2021 before it gained a lot more popularity, wish i could've im syre nkw its been tsken over by more popular well known crestirs..but it was bc at least at that time it was a much better setup than OF just not well known yet. So I think it's fine of course he's had many Fansly sponsorships and i thought that ad was still appropriate, coming from someone who tries to avoid ads on all steaming services that ad wouldn't be as bothersome to have to see over and over.
      Another creator I watch did explain how they recieved money with the different types of views. Surprisingly, a Premium view counts higher in terms of what the creator recieves than a view from those watching all those ridicilous amount of ads, that's not even considering having to see the sponsored ads within a video, too! (Note that not skipping ads helps them more, too, so when it's a smaller creator I'd consider letting the entire ad play). But when an ad blocker extension (so, a free option) is used to not have to see ads, the creator receives NOTHING for that view.
      I also respect creators more when they add very short sometimes pretty creative sections into their videos where they will place their midroll ads. It shows viewers like yourself respect so that an ad is less intrusive in its placement e.g. won't cut off a sentence, won't cut off important moments - before I got my friend to pay for premium she'd always place her phone down for us to watch something rather than her tv to watch content she enjoyed [I never watch on my phone... I use my tv so her doing that plus the intrusive, repetitive, and plentiful ads per video was painful to me lol also, a phone is not easily viewed by two peoplr if thstd mot your o ky option fir viewjnv its juzg rude. ]
      So for you, how can you stand the ads every few video slots on the feeds, the presumably constant preroll ads, the many midroll ads that seem to be the same ad each time (also why creators make their videos at least 8min!), and I believe there are still banner ads over the content. Presumably if watching on the computer there will be ads to the right where the video suggestions are. Tell me if there are ads I've missed! Lol Do these ads limit how long you spend on the app? Do they somehow just not bother you? Maybe you don't feel your time is being wasted? Does the combination of real ads then in video sponsored ads bother you? Do you find the ads useful and ever actually click on them?
      I will make this general comment, too. My comments always get quite lengthy. :x I slso don't comment often given I'm not viewing on a phone or computer. So a lot has to build up for me to grab my phone. I'm not intending to bother you with the comment!!
      But if you're getting ads presumably as an adult, how do it affect your watching experience?

    • @XeniaGrae
      @XeniaGrae Рік тому +5

      ​​@@psgamer-il2pt per another creator, premium views surprisingly give them the most (I'd have guessed less), then regular ad viewers with full ads playing being more beneficial to the creator than ad skips, and finally NO money at all for views from people using ad blockers rather than paying for premium.

    • @psgamer-il2pt
      @psgamer-il2pt Рік тому +1

      @@XeniaGrae yeah I'm pretty sure that's not very common

    • @aidanphilip2288
      @aidanphilip2288 Рік тому +5

      @@psgamer-il2pt it was the timing of the ad that was funny

  • @shadowlink3602
    @shadowlink3602 Рік тому +2341

    To everyone saying QT is a hypocrite for being upset at atrioc and then doing a fansly sponsor, i hate to break it to you but there is a MASSIVE difference between promoting someone who willingly does sex work and taking someones face and putting it on porn without their consent

    • @jesseire666
      @jesseire666 Рік тому

      It's insane that this actually needs to be explained to people. It's very clear they just hate QT and maybe women in general lmao

    • @jjju3
      @jjju3 Рік тому +1

      yeah its fucking disgusting people are making that argument at all. "dont sexualize people without their consent" and "respect sex workers" are in no way mutually exclusive, good lord. theyre both about respecting womens bodily autonomy and what they _choose_ to do or not do with it. people on this website are brain dead.

    • @OrangeMelon419
      @OrangeMelon419 Рік тому +1

      I guess it’s only a Problem for People From the USA. They are very very 🧐 whats the english Word? Prude? When it comes to Stuff like that. Here in EU we have naked bobs After Midnight on Television and Nobody cares. 🤷🏽‍♀️
      And lets be real Every Teen can use Google and find Everything anyway.
      It’s really weird to be mad about Stuff like that.
      But How is it in the USA with like Super Bowl? Sponser is Budweiser or something?
      We have Beer comertials on Sport Events but here Beer is for 16j old.

    • @ironized
      @ironized Рік тому +248

      Yeah look I’m not trying to be too edgy here, but women would be a lot safer if we just eradicated everyone who can’t tell the difference.
      Like there is a degree of stupid where you’re just a liability to the planet and I think not understanding this point has to be a key indicator.

    • @darkcloud9053
      @darkcloud9053 Рік тому +16

      If u make ur money from these platforms then don't be surprised if someone else takes advantage of those platforms.

  • @SirRipster
    @SirRipster Рік тому +64

    personally, I think the biggest difference in the different events was how directly fansly made it clear about it being a sexual platform.

    • @vig0s221
      @vig0s221 Рік тому +3

      Very disappointed that QT and Lid would willingly advertise adult content knowing full well their audience is mostly kids under 18. Makes me sad to know they’re “morals” and “ethics” includes exposing kids to this content.

    • @SirRipster
      @SirRipster Рік тому +5

      @@vig0s221 yeah there is no denying that. There really should have pushed to find a different sponcer, but I understand that it's probably really hard to find a sponcer like that in the current market, plus that they are streamers.

    • @omnidrip84
      @omnidrip84 Рік тому +1

      @@vig0s221 Also disappointed that Twitch allows it, knowing full well they ban streamers for even advertising their OF or Fansly accounts on stream. Usual Twitch L

  • @brocasimp8320
    @brocasimp8320 Рік тому +22

    Time to become like cable TV and get those big pharma sponsors

  • @TinaWasTaken
    @TinaWasTaken Рік тому +684

    That “I don’t give a fk about them kids” was maddddd genuine. It came from his soul 😂

    • @arco718
      @arco718 Рік тому

      I was thinking about what my response would be to this situation and it's similar, fuck those kids. Neither Ludwig nor qt really cater their content towards kids so I don't mind. On the other hand, if someone like Ryan's toy review had a fansly sponsorship I would be more inclined to give a fuck. Similar to a show like family guy, they make crude jokes but they don't target kids so it's fine, despite the fact that kids will inevitably see it. It's also why Jake Paul promoting shady gambling sites back in the day was such a huge problem. It's who you target and what you target them with. If you don't aim for kids, and they still see it, I don't give a shit.

    • @NamerGaming
      @NamerGaming Рік тому +14

      Being against part of your audience is quite ironic, I think Lud is on the wrong and going in a wrong direction lately, but well, time will tell.

    • @TinaWasTaken
      @TinaWasTaken Рік тому +85

      @@NamerGaming not caring to make content for kids, or not having his life principles focus on kids, does not mean being against them.

    • @Jonsey21ish
      @Jonsey21ish Рік тому +1

      It’s illegal too lead children to a site where you can link an under age account to gain access. ITS AGAINST THE LAW. Doesn’t even mention the biggest issue. That was exposed the day of the event but had to cover up with throwing justaminx under the bus.

    • @micheljurgens
      @micheljurgens Рік тому +23

      ​@@TinaWasTaken amen

  • @DigitaIJustice
    @DigitaIJustice Рік тому +1803

    I love the Lud/Charlie synchronized news blasts

    • @billythebob3945
      @billythebob3945 Рік тому +12

      Mogul mail*

    • @jackdaniel3135
      @jackdaniel3135 Рік тому +5

      It’s a lot of fun comparing video titles.

    • @KJ-cm2gi
      @KJ-cm2gi Рік тому +1

      Atp I look forward to it

    • @fanaticaudienc8089
      @fanaticaudienc8089 Рік тому +3

      I didn't get any of this. Because it still isn't the same to show literal p**n to children!

    • @BoboFerre
      @BoboFerre Рік тому

      @lShowSрееd shorts 🅥 no i haven't been looking for a cp clip my guy that not 18+

  • @EloTheCurious
    @EloTheCurious Рік тому +14

    Wow! Thank you for explaining all that from a creator perspective. I really learned a lot from this video about ad acceptance, and preference. Very fascinating.

  • @potatoeoverlord9430
    @potatoeoverlord9430 Рік тому +511

    Having QT and Ludwig as this power couple who are both doing big but entirely separate events really does provide a unique opportunity to compare how a male host and a female host are treated in circumstances that are often otherwise quite similar. It helps that they're both willing to talk about that in a frank and open way.

    • @diox8tony
      @diox8tony Рік тому +27

      It is a really neat situation. However this time, the viewership was very different. (Fighting + chess) vs All Streamers (general)

    • @ITzSa3d
      @ITzSa3d Рік тому +68

      I think their situations were different, when I watched Ludwig's event I didn't see that ad(fansly one) nor did I know what fansly was, but in QT's event you can clearly see that adult content is being advertised when the majority of their viewer are minors

    • @jeremycoelho1833
      @jeremycoelho1833 Рік тому

      In Lud's and Jerma's events its just a logo ad, so u automatically ignore it. But for QTs event it was an in your face literal porn ad. Even QT admitted that she should have checked it first 🤷‍♂️

    • @Two0Four
      @Two0Four Рік тому +8

      What the fuck does Frank have to do with all this 😭😭😭😭😭

    • @shiningfingersword
      @shiningfingersword Рік тому +1

      Scott Shafer actually pointed out that Ludwig used Fansly for his boxing event and xQc's gameshow in his video about this topic. I believe he even reached out to Ludwig but he didn't respond.

  • @Colecruzin
    @Colecruzin Рік тому +816

    A wise man once said “he’s not hypocritical,he is moistcritikal”

    • @hipunpun
      @hipunpun Рік тому +2

      😂

    • @Jonsey21ish
      @Jonsey21ish Рік тому

      It’s illegal too lead children to a site where you can link an under age account to gain access. ITS AGAINST THE LAW. Doesn’t even mention the biggest issue. That was exposed the day of the event but had to cover up with throwing justaminx under the bus.

    • @beethovensoup
      @beethovensoup Рік тому +7

      that’s the top comment on charlie’s video

    • @stevenarvizu3602
      @stevenarvizu3602 Рік тому +2

      @@beethovensoup was just about to say this lol “you can copy my homework just change it around a little bit”

    • @Colecruzin
      @Colecruzin Рік тому +4

      @@beethovensoup yes that is said wise man lmao

  • @jackbrett5254
    @jackbrett5254 Рік тому +673

    Feels like lud and charlie should make a news channel for all the drama they cover

    • @k____k____
      @k____k____ Рік тому +3

      *for all the drama they create and then cover

    • @Jonsey21ish
      @Jonsey21ish Рік тому

      It’s illegal too lead children to a site where you can link an under age account to gain access. ITS AGAINST THE LAW. Doesn’t even mention the biggest issue. That was exposed the day of the event but had to cover up with throwing justaminx under the bus.

    • @Anarchistcowboy
      @Anarchistcowboy Рік тому +8

      The could call it moist Mogul

    • @FinalMix64
      @FinalMix64 Рік тому +2

      Yea call it Drama Alert Nation but Good

    • @darthjarjar8
      @darthjarjar8 Рік тому +1

      YES

  • @CisternRumblings
    @CisternRumblings Рік тому +11

    We're witnessing Twitch and UA-cam becoming exactly like Hollywood in real time lmfao. Absolutely shameless.

  • @MoDFoX
    @MoDFoX Рік тому +63

    I think it's important for content creators to recognize that their sponsors aren't buying an ad space, they're buying an endorsement. As much as it may be treated as an ad, many viewers will see it as an endorsement and then proceed to purchase that product. This is what the advertisers are paying for.

  • @benjaunceyyy
    @benjaunceyyy Рік тому +2024

    I personally think Fansly simply adding age verification (which is mind blowing that it wasn't there to begin with) fixes literally everything

    • @nerd-vet-human
      @nerd-vet-human Рік тому +12

      this

    • @zizu1352
      @zizu1352 Рік тому +7

      facts

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p Рік тому +92

      Adin ross stream had +18 verification on it. was this the argument when ludwig, charlie all went for adin ross head? Or was this argument only made because your favorite streamers are hypocrites having their streamer awards being sponsored by a literal pornsite.

    • @DaStar280
      @DaStar280 Рік тому +17

      Except it doesn't the hypocrisy from qt ludwig etc is laughable

    • @sjsjsIIIIIIIIIIndndnjdhdhx
      @sjsjsIIIIIIIIIIndndnjdhdhx Рік тому

      ​@@user-gc1wj8tt2p not a porn site, a subscription streaming platform

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Рік тому +745

    Watching Cr1tikal talk about this in deadpan tone and Lud in more energetic voice is one of my favorite UA-cam activities

    • @billythebob3945
      @billythebob3945 Рік тому +11

      Mogul mail*

    • @fuadlabib703
      @fuadlabib703 Рік тому +2

      Ludi the mogul man

    • @kanavkohli794
      @kanavkohli794 Рік тому

      Nah they are all liars. The original video criticizing them by MuuKitty said that QT did Fansly ads right after mario Kart kids stuff, thats why it was Immoral. Both Critikal and Ludwig, strawmanned that into "Is putting fansly ads ok in general" Lmao. Shooting at straws, actually decrepit and manipulative losers.

    • @TheFirstCentaur
      @TheFirstCentaur Рік тому

      @@kanavkohli794LMAO. Mu said it was Mario Kart but it was a nitro stream racing ad. She got it wrong. Get the fuck outta here with your factually inaccurate statements

    • @arkain1
      @arkain1 Рік тому

      ​@@kanavkohli794 Crawl back to LSF, where you belongs.

  • @tristenherron1273
    @tristenherron1273 Рік тому +4

    QT’s reaction has me dying 🤣🤣🤣

  • @matheusboaron_
    @matheusboaron_ Рік тому +2

    This video have so much good information for people that are becoming influencers or having online careers

  • @GiovannisDaedra
    @GiovannisDaedra Рік тому +1648

    I kinda wish we'd stop pretending like adult content doesn't exist and go back to criticizing parents for not guiding their kids. If your kid has a porn addiction I guarantee it's not from Charlie giggling at a fansly ad.

    • @Jkb2002
      @Jkb2002 Рік тому +40

      I agree

    • @ct5625
      @ct5625 Рік тому +129

      I'm old enough to remember the days when parents would be prosecuted for letting their kids view 18+ content, and the world worked fine. Now, so many parents are so stupid or lazy (often both) they genuinely seem to believe every adult human on earth should become a Disney character to appease them.

    • @catnip202xch.
      @catnip202xch. Рік тому +24

      however the fansly ad was played directly after a mario ad so, i feel like the point about Moist's hypocrisy is still valid.

    • @TheFirstCentaur
      @TheFirstCentaur Рік тому +123

      @@catnip202xch.it was nitro stream racing not Mario Kart. Muu was wrong in the video. Do research before spouting lies thanks

    • @catnip202xch.
      @catnip202xch. Рік тому +14

      @@TheFirstCentaur however does it rerally change it that much? nitroracing is a very vibrant looking game, not too off from Mario Cart, meaning that its a game thats marketed towards a younger audience. Having a porn ad come up right after a kids game is still very inappropriate.

  • @FirstNameLastName-dx5ew
    @FirstNameLastName-dx5ew Рік тому +72

    Lud saying “thank you Susan” 😂 force of habit

    • @ssassb
      @ssassb Рік тому +3

      It was Susan at the time, so he is not wrong.

    • @VixeyTeh
      @VixeyTeh Рік тому

      I got a little thrill of nostalgia from that. :)
      I miss Susan, I hope she's doing well.

  • @Scoobay
    @Scoobay Рік тому +2

    I thought the fansly ads were weird, but then 5 seconds past and I stopped thinking about it

  • @lulcy789
    @lulcy789 Рік тому

    0:48 i will use this clip in so many contexts this is beautiful

  • @alfiequinn8114
    @alfiequinn8114 Рік тому +1786

    Ludwig always relays his point so eloquently. He calls it rambling, but really it's a very structured presentation. He makes his points clear, non-repetitive, and in quick enough succession to keep the viewer intrigued but not overwhelmed. He pauses this train of thought only to A) lighten the mood or B) Provide reference or allusion. Very well spoken, long time viewer here, gracious to see such use of a platform now and always :)) no homo or anything

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p Рік тому

      the problem is all his friend group, moist, qt, hasan all attacked adin ross for showing porn to his underage audience when qt literally just advertised porn to her underage audience as well. The twitch elite of nepotism

    • @finnsnow2495
      @finnsnow2495 Рік тому +61

      It's because he's a language major

    • @KaxMerg
      @KaxMerg Рік тому

      its okay to be homo bro

    • @mtp1213
      @mtp1213 Рік тому

      He’s not gonna fuck you bro

    • @jack_kerins
      @jack_kerins Рік тому +12

      To me sometimes it gets annoying when he purposefully stutters like 5 times

  • @monikavelikova113
    @monikavelikova113 Рік тому +496

    As a fellow European, I also find things like nudity or drinking and smoking, not that serious because it’s done so much here. So I feel like Lud, believe in your gut that you know your community and that you stand by your morals.

    • @kidsyx
      @kidsyx Рік тому +21

      I was gonna say this. I think the pearl clutching is way too over blown.

    • @jellytwins1018
      @jellytwins1018 Рік тому +9

      There's nothing wrong with it but regardless where you live, but it does seem like an issue if you promote it to little kids.

    • @c.k.1933
      @c.k.1933 Рік тому +13

      What morals? Promoting whores is somehow moral lol? Also nudity in this case is not fine, nor is promoting smoking and drinking. I am also European, doesn’t mean that all degeneracy is tolerated.

    • @fonoberg7157
      @fonoberg7157 Рік тому +7

      Don’t say ”fellow European” lol. He’s born and raised in the USA

    • @Soapystudz
      @Soapystudz Рік тому

      ​@@fonoberg7157 pretty sure he is french

  • @SafavidAfsharid3197
    @SafavidAfsharid3197 Рік тому +4

    Thank god Ludwig didn't criticise Adin Ross for promoting porn in kick. My guy with selective outrage is proving the point on how he is a hypocrite.

  • @NanashiHuy
    @NanashiHuy Рік тому +2

    I personally don't feel comfortable watching fansly ads, it just doesnt feel like it belongs, but moneys money and these events are bangers so i'll still sit through them.

  • @Snowy0428
    @Snowy0428 Рік тому +189

    Mogul Mail guy always giving us good mail!

    • @diorplug
      @diorplug Рік тому +1

      good porn sponsorings yes xD

    • @kanavkohli794
      @kanavkohli794 Рік тому

      Nah they are all liars. The original video criticizing them said that QT did Fansly ads right after mario Kart kids stuff, thats why it was Immoral. Both Critikal and Ludwig, strawmanned that into "Is putting fansly ads ok in general" Lmao. Shooting at straws, actually decrepit and manipulative losers.

  • @rwwars6948
    @rwwars6948 Рік тому +57

    If fansly allows you to do banger events, keep doing it.

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p Рік тому

      the problem is all his friend group, moist, qt, hasan all attacked adin ross for showing porn to his underage audience when qt literally just advertised porn to her underage audience as well. The twitch elite of nepotism

  • @pedrostormrage
    @pedrostormrage Рік тому +1

    2:28 "SOB, I do those" Well, friendship's over (diplomacy is hard) 😂

  • @kalelsoffspring
    @kalelsoffspring Рік тому +121

    Very much appreciate the take here. There's obviously the guard rails, like a toy review channel probably shouldn't take Fansly as a sponsor, but as long as your own morals are happy and most of your audience is too, personal preference is really all that's important

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p Рік тому

      the problem is all his friend group, moist, qt, hasan all attacked adin ross for showing porn to his underage audience when qt literally just advertised porn to her underage audience as well.

    • @zakaria8041
      @zakaria8041 Рік тому +3

      If the attitude is "fuck them kids" then why were lud and charlie dogging on Adin for showing porn to his audience?

    • @0gammag0
      @0gammag0 Рік тому +19

      @@zakaria8041 Because Ludwig and Charlie are giving their fans _access_ to those kind of things. Aiden Ross _made_ people watch it whether they wanted to or not

    • @leapfrogkate
      @leapfrogkate Рік тому

      @@zakaria8041people can decide whether or not to download an app & create an account & put their card information in, which parents should be monitoring on a child’s device; adin’s audience wasn’t given a choice. he blatantly showed them the homepage of a porn site with visible nudity on stream. whether they were kids or not, i think it’s shit either way to without warning show porn to a non consenting audience. especially if that’s not the content he’s known for normally streaming.

    • @PippyPopsSelfHarmMonica
      @PippyPopsSelfHarmMonica Рік тому +6

      ​@@zakaria8041When did charlie ever say "f them kids" all he said is "both are bad but on wildly different scales"

  • @theoriginalbreadcrumb
    @theoriginalbreadcrumb Рік тому +27

    Originally I was going to say how inappropriate this ad was and all that, but then I took a peek at one of the nominated streamers and watched their chat for a bit and I realized it's the perfect ad for these viewers.

  • @chalooby3403
    @chalooby3403 Рік тому +12

    At least Lud is genuine in his sponsors and actually uses them

  • @Urava1
    @Urava1 Рік тому +4

    Your morals change every day if it relevant to money

  • @R0FLC4T5
    @R0FLC4T5 Рік тому +18

    Mogul Mail and Charlie's news breaks should combine into Mogul Moist News and just have you both greenscreened at a desk in a news studio.

  • @oh6251
    @oh6251 Рік тому +412

    I really like how Lud is being honest these days...

    • @kensei1912
      @kensei1912 Рік тому +8

      Clueless surely

    • @Riko999_
      @Riko999_ Рік тому +15

      Hes not

    • @ekasism
      @ekasism Рік тому +6

      Not really

    • @Walbaber
      @Walbaber Рік тому +2

      @@ekasism how is he not?

    • @kanavkohli794
      @kanavkohli794 Рік тому +13

      Nah they are all liars. The original video criticizing them said that QT did Fansly ads right after mario Kart kids stuff, thats why it was Immoral. Both Critikal and Ludwig, strawmanned that into "Is putting fansly ads ok in general" Lmao. Shooting at straws, actually decrepit and manipulative losers.

  • @juliusfrauenheim127
    @juliusfrauenheim127 10 місяців тому +1

    Speaking of the notorious gummy SAP episode, where's it at Lud. I will become a member if it means getting to watch that footage.

  • @rugbylocklove1409
    @rugbylocklove1409 Рік тому +3

    maybe i'm just not paying attention, but i'd never heard a peep from people complaining about fansly sponsorships until qt started using them. that's so interesting to me...

    • @JabbaTheYutt
      @JabbaTheYutt Рік тому +3

      because a lot of the people involved in putting the streamer awards together (QT's event) would complain about other creators doing morally gray sponsorships (like Stake, slots, etc.) in the name of "protecting children". obviously there were kids watching the streamer awards and there was no 18+ safeguard enabled by twitch. just goes to show if you are going to call out other creators for doing stuff, expect to get called out yourself when you do things that can be criticized

  • @CreatorIntelligence
    @CreatorIntelligence Рік тому +34

    Ludy asserting dominance by making his video 3 seconds longer than Charlies. I see you.

  • @x3dfritz0
    @x3dfritz0 Рік тому +217

    As soon as this drama started up my first thought was "wait... wasnt chess boxing sponsered by Fansly? why do people hate fansly all of a sudden?" and i thought maybe they had something happen, like some news came out about the company or whatever. But nope, it was just cause it was a QTCinderella event. If Ludwig had done the streamer awards and had the same Fansly sponsership there would have been zero drama guarenteed.

    • @RepublicansAreDeplorable
      @RepublicansAreDeplorable Рік тому

      was Luds event pay to watch?

    • @bonjouritsready
      @bonjouritsready Рік тому +30

      Exactly, though if it’s the Adin Ross fans (lmao) crying over it then what do you expect? They’re all 13 and hate women

    • @RepublicansAreDeplorable
      @RepublicansAreDeplorable Рік тому +1

      also was QTs event pay to watch? I don't actually know.

    • @bruncla2303
      @bruncla2303 Рік тому +23

      @@RepublicansAreDeplorable nope just a regular stream. u can sub to not get ads on twitch but thats all. unless u talk about in person than they were both pay to watch in person

    • @theotakuGamer7640
      @theotakuGamer7640 Рік тому +29

      nah I guarantee the person creating a fuss is just a massive troll trying to go to the incels for a quick-clout/cash grab. the contrarian play. but her fan base is hardcore anti "woke", anti popular, anti anything thats viewed positively. realistically they don't give af about fansly. they are just mad at QT/Lud/Moist/OTV/OTK etc. If train/XQC/Destiny did a fansly stream they'd all cheer.

  • @Marsiekuma
    @Marsiekuma Рік тому +1

    Oh Mogul Mail... Never change 😂🤣❤
    Ooophf, my sides hurt.

  • @audreyharrison9631
    @audreyharrison9631 Рік тому

    The subtle stash is serving.

  • @blitz676
    @blitz676 Рік тому +13

    5:33 I don’t think Ludwig remembers what happened 😂😂 “Susan”

    • @ludwig
      @ludwig Рік тому +15

      Rolls of the tongue

    • @blitz676
      @blitz676 Рік тому +8

      @@ludwig get off your second account lud this is mogul mail

    • @Entropy67
      @Entropy67 Рік тому +1

      @@blitz676 what do you mean? That is titular streamer Ludwig commenting on a video by his arch-nemisis, MOGUL MAIL.

  • @justsomenightowl7220
    @justsomenightowl7220 Рік тому +155

    i have never been bothered by your gambling, drinking and other adult themed content, even though i don't dabble in these myself
    you guys are adult men, and you're entertaining while doing these things
    i think its fine lol

    • @Flapjack3734
      @Flapjack3734 Рік тому +6

      There’s a difference between doing something and streaming yourself promoting something. You personally might not have any issue with that, but that doesn’t change that it without a doubt enables young viewers to become exposed/addicted to it.

    • @zeebug
      @zeebug Рік тому +29

      @@Flapjack3734 that’s a parenting issue , not something content creators who create adult content for adults should be responsible for. You have to go to those sites and click yes, have some personal responsibility.

    • @vic44rd
      @vic44rd Рік тому +4

      ​@@zeebug I think it is more that these folks made a huge deal out of gambling, taking gambling sponsorships and how that is damaging to show it to minors and stuff and now showing porn to minors which is quite addictive itself.
      I usually like his takes but I think he is wrong on this one.
      You could use the same argument for gambling. I seriously dont know why they made such a huge deal of gambling and made twitch ban it.

    • @justsomenightowl7220
      @justsomenightowl7220 Рік тому +9

      @@Flapjack3734 As someone who grew up on the internet, I don’t think it’s possible to avoid porn or otherwise sexual ads. UA-cam itself is infested with porn bots in the comments, every other ad on older news websites is sexual in some way (Hot Young Ladies Near You etc), plus if you go to any site to watch or download movies/anime all of the ads are pornographic. I don’t think that Ludwig’s Fansly ad will be the first encounter or introduction of this type of media, for kids. It’s literally inescapable and I think everyone has had to become desensitised to it by now, to some extent.
      Besides, the ads weren’t even that bad or graphic, I honestly didn’t even realise Fansly had pornographic content on there, even after watching the chess boxing event. Most people skip past the ad parts anyway. I really don’t think it matters that much

    • @zeebug
      @zeebug Рік тому +6

      @@vic44rd I think the difference between the gambling and porn ads is that the gambling ads were extremely misleading about winning and were malicious in their predatory behavior! Porn is porn, you know exactly what you’re paying for. Lying about the win rates and using deceptive marketing skills to create new gambling addicts and people developing porn addictions on their own are two entirely different things! People can become addicted to anything, addiction is not a reason to act like all porn is bad when a majority of people don’t have addictions to it, much like alcohol. There are alcoholics , but that doesn’t mean everyone who drinks on stream is making their viewers addicted to alcohol, that’s a stupid take.

  • @CrypticAeon
    @CrypticAeon Рік тому +2

    Fansly Ads = Marketing Porn
    Creators Getting Money > Not Doing a Bad Thing
    It's a tale as old as UA-cam

  • @ZomgZomg007
    @ZomgZomg007 Рік тому +5

    man i would hate to be a parent right now...the world is crazy and the internet is basically a free for all as long as these streamers can make some $$$$

  • @arrowheaded
    @arrowheaded Рік тому +61

    Mogul Mai Mai really scaping the bottom of the content barrel for this one. Seriously though, always appreciate how honest you are about sponsors, it's very refreshing. I usually skip sponsor ads but The Yard ones, for example, are so funny that I have to watch them. You seem to genuinely care about what your audience thinks about sponsors, big up Mr Mail.

    • @ludwig
      @ludwig Рік тому +47

      …. Not my name…..

    • @arrowheaded
      @arrowheaded Рік тому +5

      @@ludwig Holy shit, a reply from THE Pepepains?? I'm awestruck.

    • @Teleee
      @Teleee Рік тому +24

      @@ludwig No kidding it’s not your name, they were talking about Mogul Mail, smh. No one mentioned you, Ludwig. Go back to playing SAP or whatever you stream, smh.

    • @arrowheaded
      @arrowheaded Рік тому +5

      @@Teleee He doesn't even play games, React Andy over here biting Mogul Mai Mai's shit (jk I love the streams and your content has been a great source of comfort to me, genuine thanks) LULW CRINGEWIG

    • @Teleee
      @Teleee Рік тому +3

      @@arrowheaded Ugh I see, I guess I expected too much from him, smh. Can’t believe Mogul Mail even is able to handle all of Ludwigs’ nonsense, smh. I mean, I like his streams, but man, he needs to stop stepping on the toes of our greatest news source, Mogul Mail. Smh.

  • @noahlarsen3072
    @noahlarsen3072 Рік тому +135

    I think that it is up to the creator and what they are going to push. I mean maybe putting a disclaimer or a 18+ on those ads is good. But if a kid is watching normal cable television. They are gonna see things just as lewd as the fansly ad.

    • @orcast1046
      @orcast1046 Рік тому

      No

    • @ryukami404
      @ryukami404 Рік тому +39

      I remember when I was a kid and Carls Jr. (Or Hardees depending on where you are in the US and assuming same ads) would be playing ads that were nothing but good looking women in very skimpy bikinis doing nothing but posing sexually for the camera while eating whatever burger they were advertising. And I would see those ads during pretty much any program that wasn't on a kid oriented network. Of course I think when those commercials showed up, I was about 12-13 so I was obviously never going to complain about seeing that but looking back at it now and what I've been hearing about any outrage towards "sexual" content. Not a lot has really changed.

    • @goodmangammering
      @goodmangammering Рік тому +38

      @@orcast1046 have you seen the 2000’s go!daddy commercials, they were basically literally soft core porn

    • @Jkb2002
      @Jkb2002 Рік тому +23

      I agree, I saw worse as a child on TV. There is ads for casinos near me, constant ads for alcohol, lewd ads for companies that use boobs to get attention for ads, violent ads for movies and games. Seriously its not that big of a deal for streamers to take ads that help them make big productions. Could they do more research before taking some ads, sure, but are they getting children addicted to these things, no. That's on the parents to guide the child to things they should and shouldn't do.

    • @jjju3
      @jjju3 Рік тому +6

      when i was a kid i remember being up late watching sitcoms because i couldn't sleep and seeing MUCH MORE EXPLICIT ads for phone sex lines on tv. i didnt even have cable! that was public access television! and at like 3am they had the same kinds of ads running.

  • @gazirp9476
    @gazirp9476 Рік тому

    Nice to see ya cleaned up the place

  • @Seypenni
    @Seypenni Рік тому +1

    Fansly was also a major supporter for Jerma Baseball. That was when I learned about Fansly for the first time LMAO
    To be honest, I appreciate that Fansly has been such a big sponsor so these events can be made.

  • @TheRevHouse
    @TheRevHouse Рік тому +513

    The outrage really shows that its about who is getting sponsored, and not what it is

    • @moocat800
      @moocat800 Рік тому +28

      Yep, great point

    • @NamuIsIdle
      @NamuIsIdle Рік тому +1

      yeah... basically whatever qt does, will get hate... thats the rule these idiots follow

    • @DerSuperoldie
      @DerSuperoldie Рік тому +22

      In this case for sure. The timing was just really unfortunate with QT and the deep fakes right before the fansly sponsor.

    • @arkain1
      @arkain1 Рік тому +63

      If anyone are are up in arms with Fansly's PG-13 ads for streamer events, they should be writing angry letters to the NFL for those PG-13 beer commercials.

    • @ok-hz2ft
      @ok-hz2ft Рік тому +8

      Yes. It is. It is not hypocritical for Ludwig to use Fansly, so nobody cares. QT using Fansly makes her in INSANELY big hypocrite, and she is receiving just criticism for it.

  • @TakyonTommy
    @TakyonTommy Рік тому +102

    as a member of your audience, fansly sponsors are chill. get that bag brotha

  • @felixandersson6775
    @felixandersson6775 Рік тому +1

    I feel like fansly was an acceptable add on the boxing event. Because I would argue that hosting a boxing event is a mature and adult sport

  • @fram24
    @fram24 Рік тому +2

    Lud hitting Charlie back with the G-fuel and Vpn sponsorship. Subtle but noticed Lud.

  • @Sprw
    @Sprw Рік тому +204

    While I definitely think there's a difference between showing porn on stream and taking a fansly ad, I think it's important to keep everyone in check and questioning if they're being hypocritical or not just so people don't get clouded by their own hatred

    • @ManOfParody
      @ManOfParody Рік тому

      Truth. Especially when people are so critical of others for advertising porn to kids. QT and Hasan sit on a podcast like they're on an untouchable throne, meanwhile they're constantly being hypocrites.

    • @MK-jw9xk
      @MK-jw9xk Рік тому +10

      Agreed, there should be some self reflection before coming around and throwing shit at someone new every 4 days

    • @OrangeMelon419
      @OrangeMelon419 Рік тому

      The real Question is Why Are the Same People Not mad about Instagram or UA-cam or Everything ever 🤣
      I guess it’s only a „Problem“ for People From the USA bc they Are the Most hipocrites when it comes to Stuff like That.
      Bobs? Bad very Bad !!
      Guns? Yeah Baby Yeah!!

    • @joelblanco1800
      @joelblanco1800 Рік тому +1

      What if adin's target audience is adults, why doesn't he get a pass?

    • @revel8213
      @revel8213 Рік тому +14

      ​@@joelblanco1800because you can see the average age of your viewers. QT's viewers aversge around mid 20's. Adin's average around mid teens. Thats why, hes knowingly showing porn to children for no reason. QT is showing a relatively tame ad for the sake of funding. See the difference?

  • @HotShwarma
    @HotShwarma Рік тому +33

    Very good take. Good for you mogul mail guy. Cant wait to hear what ludwig has to say.

  • @nonosevoldy
    @nonosevoldy Рік тому +4

    You're really good at getting your point across while seeing both sides of an argument

  • @dumbtex6107
    @dumbtex6107 Рік тому +1

    Ludwig not middle of the road on this one ;) can’t wait for yard ep

  • @breaketh6562
    @breaketh6562 Рік тому +39

    The problem is way more that you can login to Fansly with a twitch account that you create as a minor, not Fansly itself.

    • @Elijah-eg1xt
      @Elijah-eg1xt Рік тому +9

      Yeah that's concerning. You only need to say you are 13+ to have a Twitch account. Maybe they verify that you're 18+ in the sign up process for Fansly anyways?

    • @EncryptedBear8
      @EncryptedBear8 Рік тому +5

      And to view any porn websites minors have to make one click that stopped no one ever. The "confirm you are 18" is only a legal thing, otherwise it's completely useless. Even signing up on fansly with a twitch account is more work than that. Most teenagers that are 13+ (twitch signup age) are probably well familiar with porn, that's around the age most of them get curious. Unless there are children watching that are too young even for twitch, I doubt the fansly ad would introduce any kids to adult content

    • @Tommy50377
      @Tommy50377 Рік тому +3

      @@EncryptedBear8 Yes, but it does introduce them to the idea of viewing female streamers in a sexual light. My biggest issue with it is the fact that basically everyone on twitch speaks out against the sexualization of female streamers, and then go on to advertise things like Fansly.

    • @Onatcer
      @Onatcer Рік тому +3

      is it also problematic that you can create a gmail account as a minor because you can use a gmail email to sign up to fansly? and for basically any other porn site as well?

    • @toastyfoxs
      @toastyfoxs Рік тому

      ​@@Tommy50377 I think the difference there is that the streamers who go onto fansly are probably okay with being sexualized (specifically on that site), given that they are working on/with a p*rn site. Twitch is for being a decent human being, fansly is where you can take your debauchery.

  • @BillieB.
    @BillieB. Рік тому +2

    I love how we're not saying the main criticism is coming from Mukitty

  • @paigey-poo4235
    @paigey-poo4235 Рік тому +40

    Logged into my account for the first time in months to comment on this, and at the end of the day my take is that Lud has a good track record with listening to the community, keeping an eye on the people and brands he chooses to associate with, and generally being a pretty trustworthy creator.
    I trust him to drop the company if they start pulling any weird stuff.

    • @johnsmith4187
      @johnsmith4187 Рік тому

      No he doesn't care at all. What are you talking about. He literally supported EA sponsorship. EA being scummiest gaming company who chose at last minute to cancel revenue share with their creators and take all the 100% for themselves. Literally, look up lululuvely she talked about it.
      It's pretty clear both QT and Ludwig sold out. QT literally took up hello fresh sponsorship, when they laid off 600 workers and were scummiest union busting. Hasan covered it and no one cared took up sponsorship anyways.

    • @eggy6745
      @eggy6745 Рік тому +2

      It's an 18+ website. A literal porn site.

    • @vig0s221
      @vig0s221 Рік тому +2

      Very disappointed that QT and Lid would willingly advertise adult content knowing full well their audience is mostly kids under 18. Makes me sad to know they’re “morals” and “ethics” includes exposing kids to this content.

  • @inbracedefeat
    @inbracedefeat Рік тому +4

    I really miss the poker streams. You were goated at poker

  • @74snoo82
    @74snoo82 Рік тому +17

    ludwig always had a good way of being genuine and straight forward in an increasingly sensitive world, im glad hes not afraid to be himself and say some things that not everyone agrees with. ts is why he's the goat

  • @duraikan1487
    @duraikan1487 Рік тому +2

    Oh no! my adult content is sponsored by more adult content!! AAAAHHHHHHHH

  • @m8sonj4r76
    @m8sonj4r76 Рік тому +2

    That ad from the streamer awards isn't any more sexual or revealing than a Victoria's secret ad the size of a wall in the average mall, and we've all seen make up and perfume commercials that have women wearing almost no clothing. It's not strange at all, it's just that the women in the ad are consensually showing their bodies to make a living /because/ men are jing off to it. In all those other circumstances, the women are unintentionally jacked off to rather than intentionally.

  • @mikeyparker961
    @mikeyparker961 Рік тому +3

    Really thoughtful for Mogul Mail to talk about the smaller channel of Ludwig and his cool event!

  • @TheYoungSandwichfilm
    @TheYoungSandwichfilm Рік тому +3

    When I'm in a "try not to mention I am a European for 5 minutes" competition and my opponent is Ludwig:

  • @3limin4t0r
    @3limin4t0r Рік тому +2

    I personally don't mind adult sponsors, Fansly is totally fine. As long as the ad itself is SFW.

  • @grg7409
    @grg7409 Рік тому +1

    I literally had no idea what Fansly was until this vid and I watched mogul boxing lol

  • @tenhs7549
    @tenhs7549 Рік тому +64

    what an outstanding take by our favorite youtuber Mogul Mail! if only ludwig had such astonishing commentary skills

  • @MK-jw9xk
    @MK-jw9xk Рік тому +7

    You got me riled up Lud, very good points- started a debate with a few friends that don’t watch streams, and it was interesting to hear their sides and opinions as well.
    As a European as well (not sure if that’s necessary related)- I don’t see a problem with fansly sponsorship, especially if they’re able to bring so much good to the streaming world.
    Content creators who choose tha path of earning money with nudity was never the issue, rather knowing the side affects this could have on certain viewers to take it too far, with streamers that don’t choose to get sexualised- to be sexualised.
    It seems that the shit this sponsorship gets is because of the selected aggro fans, and what they might want to do *outside* of the site. I believe sadly that the sexualisation will happen regardless, might as well support a website that allows selected streamers do it on their own terms and perhaps stop the need of sexualising the streamers that don’t want to be sexualised.

    • @seam5818
      @seam5818 Рік тому +1

      It has to do with the pornographic content. It's like your favorite streamers got together for one big stream and sent everyone a link to only fans with a prepaid account as you can use twitch to create an account even one that's 13 years old. That's the problem.

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p Рік тому

      the problem is all his friend group, moist, qt, hasan all attacked adin ross for showing porn to his underage audience when qt literally just advertised porn to her underage audience. The twitch elite of nepotism

    • @yaboiaxl1216
      @yaboiaxl1216 Рік тому

      @@seam5818 I dont remember who it was exactly but to quote a wise man I'll say "fuck them kids"

    • @yaboiaxl1216
      @yaboiaxl1216 Рік тому +1

      As another fellow european i also really dont mind the sponsor itself but i feel like the ad was a bit too sexual. I'm very much pro-sexwork but the ad did take me out of an otherwise pretty wholesome event.
      QT seems to acknowledge that its a bit much judging by the clip ludwig shared so i assume they'll tune it down for the next event they'll be a main sponsor for (if people still want to get sponsored by them)

  • @arnavarora-bd5el
    @arnavarora-bd5el Рік тому

    I love this channel. Thanks for making this video pepepains guy! you are alright

  • @RylanJW
    @RylanJW Рік тому +2

    I’m dumb as hell. The whole chess boxing thing I never realized wth fansly actually was haha.

  • @willmehfoud1378
    @willmehfoud1378 Рік тому +41

    Moral of the story: “Thank you Susan, sign it again.” 5:30

  • @mgo8924
    @mgo8924 Рік тому +6

    Drama, who would’ve thought

  • @ToriKo_
    @ToriKo_ Рік тому

    I don’t know how you respond to new information so impressively

  • @TheMedicinalMan
    @TheMedicinalMan Рік тому +1

    I’ve never clicked a sponsored link. Idc who sponsors who

  • @Mezzijah
    @Mezzijah Рік тому +25

    totally fine with your sponsors, keep doing what you do

    • @orcast1046
      @orcast1046 Рік тому

      Keep sponsoring a porn site that degrades woman honestly stfu

  • @aguyfromnz537
    @aguyfromnz537 Рік тому +166

    Crazy that qt is the only person who has got hate for it when so many other people have done it. I wonder why 🤔🤔🤔

    • @MogulMail
      @MogulMail  Рік тому +140

      🤔🤔🤔

    • @AdrienPyke
      @AdrienPyke Рік тому +135

      ​@@djbobby224 she condemned unconsensual objectification, fansly is 100% consensual so where's the hypocrisy

    • @sighRNG
      @sighRNG Рік тому +4

      You are right, we should blame both, Qt and Ludwig

    • @Noseihtam266
      @Noseihtam266 Рік тому +76

      ​@@djbobby224except she was complaining about objectifying women against their will, not women profiting off their own bodies, there's a huge difference there

    • @lilymoon6707
      @lilymoon6707 Рік тому +65

      @@djbobby224 wow dude, you're so smart, there truly is no difference between a woman choosing to present herself in a sexual way and women having porn of them produced and sold without their knowledge or consent. thank you so much for your razor sharp analysis.

  • @viktorjancik2737
    @viktorjancik2737 Рік тому +4

    The Copium is strong with this one.

  • @deborahalice
    @deborahalice Рік тому +2

    Paid porn is fantastic, and should be supported. Free porn is sometimes a monsterous thing and can support allot of horrible people doing horrible things.

  • @CatBarron
    @CatBarron Рік тому +3

    I largely agree with your points, just for statistics purposes, i think you're fansley sponsors have been fine so far, and don't have a problem with them. (knowing nothing about the company other than what their site does) so if they help make your great events happen im all for it.

  • @kate7369
    @kate7369 Рік тому +3

    I feel like the point was missed a bit in this. The reason why I've always felt Fansley was a weird sponsor is because a lot of the time the creators will market it as "download fansley to see the behind the scenes or bloopers of this video" (like with Juiced) and I feel kids would download that expecting just behind the scenes on regular content, but then stumble, unknowingly and unintentionaly onto p orn.

  • @damiaanwolters4739
    @damiaanwolters4739 Рік тому +1

    1 serving of coffee has more caffeine than one serving of gfuel.

  • @TheDeviIDogg
    @TheDeviIDogg Рік тому +7

    I feel like if you have a sponsor that has some risque content and it's content you pay for or seek out because you want it, then it's fine because you have free will

    • @viortero9593
      @viortero9593 Рік тому +1

      I’m so tired of acting like men need to be protected from porn.
      Some people really think onlyfans and cam girl websites are evil because men just can’t stop themselves from giving all their money away.

    • @TheDeviIDogg
      @TheDeviIDogg Рік тому +1

      @@viortero9593 Men are adults and if they're addicted to porn it's no different than any other addiction which effects everyone and at that point it's not the porn it's the person. I think porn is weird and paying for it is weirder but I mean there's worse things to spend money on

    • @viortero9593
      @viortero9593 Рік тому

      @@TheDeviIDogg I 100% agree

    • @viortero9593
      @viortero9593 Рік тому

      @@TheDeviIDogg did you hear about that guy who killed his family after he spent like 50k on a cam girl from his family’s money? Some people really think it was the cam girls fault and not guy who literally killed his family.
      It was the women folk fault for tempting him with her tits. Men have no blame

    • @TheDeviIDogg
      @TheDeviIDogg Рік тому +1

      @@viortero9593 That's crazy, it's like blaming the cigarette for causing cancer when really it's the addiction and constant smoking that caused it

  • @AllanDatGuy
    @AllanDatGuy Рік тому +3

    As far as deciding on advertisers, going with your moral compass is valid. I thought it was funny how you called out some big names and mentioned things sponsors wouldn't want you to mention like too much caffeine, premium price for average product, and selling data. What I'd like to see in the ads but probably won't happen is the negative of these sponsors like honey selling data, nord/raycon not being worth the price, gatcha games trying to make players addicted similarly to gambling, etc.

  • @ChrisTessmer
    @ChrisTessmer Рік тому +4

    Ludwig is the realist of the real, that's why I watch. No bullshit, no hiding, what you see is what you get and this world would be a better place if everyone was like him.

    • @user-gc1wj8tt2p
      @user-gc1wj8tt2p Рік тому

      the problem is all his friend group, moist, qt, hasan all attacked adin ross for showing porn to his underage audience when qt literally just advertised porn to her underage audience as well.

    • @VixeyTeh
      @VixeyTeh Рік тому

      Exactly, he's so refreshingly authentic. Even when he's memeing, lying and scamming, he's genuine about it.
      He's a real one, fer sure.

  • @Slyceratops
    @Slyceratops Рік тому

    You gotta make drama when there's no drama.

  • @adam.s.92
    @adam.s.92 Рік тому

    Kudos for acknowledging the sponsored poker thing and not continuing that. I personally remember watching your video about sponsored gambling and commenting on what I viewed as hypocrisy. I'm glad you take those kinds of comments seriously.

  • @Jellisman12
    @Jellisman12 Рік тому +4

    Thanks for being open and honest about what goes into your decision making process. I respect that a lot.

  • @chrissyisediting369
    @chrissyisediting369 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for a pointing out a double standard with the sponsor. All I heard they are trying to bring up is the streamer awards as if x didn't have a full competition with that being the sponsor. They also need to take accountability too.