Used Car Bargain: The Peugeot 407 Coupe is Better Than You Think
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Today, the Peugeot 407 Coupe! Taking over from the generally well loved 406 coupe, the 407 got a battering from the motoring press - it wasn't pretty, and they weren't impressed with how it drove. But I reckon they've missed the point.
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You may not love the comparison, but it is honestly a compliment. These videos take me back to the early days of watching Top Gear repeats on Dave, a simpler and a happier time. Thank you.
You're welcome
Indeed, lazy afternoons on the couch! Splendid.
the guys on topgear did make a point when peugout ,thought that they would be affected by their statement about the show and we could seee the cars not being able to turn like in a slow-motion movie , it was fun
It only suffers next to the timeless proportions of the 406coupe
I love the fact that you take really interesting “forgotten” cars like this Peugeot and review them. More of the same please. Ps. I have owned several French cars down the years and to keep costs down, always booked service and repairs in France when I went on holiday there.
I am always looking for unusual stuff!
In my country is the most sold brand either than Renault ,or high-end cars from mercedes ,BMW or Toyota. Jaguar didn´t make it because ,when buying a new car one would think ,"Oh, this car must be bad the toyota high-end van is more expensive ", "Agreed my Mazda which is longer cost me more 10.000€", Here the ones who make some money and buy a car because it´s more expensive than it´s neighboor next door new car, and some years ago Jaguar was selling their cars cheap ,in a regular country it would be a reason to sell more cars but here in Portugal people buy the cars if they are more expensive to show to others that they have more money. Some years ago the "S´s" from Mercedes were rare to see ,i had two but when driving a 73 one, people would look and ask if it was the newer model from Mercedes it looked a litle better than the 300D or W123, this in early 80´s . If i dare say that it got a V8 engine, i would be in trouble because "V8´s only in America" . At the time in average Portuguese would have cars under 70 H.p. . Being a second hand car seller as a second source of income i remenber buying cheap a Fiat UNO but it said on the side Panel "70" wich means that the car would have 70 H.P. and it were the first UNO´s that came out ,people were amazed by how much power the car got, in late 80´s i had a Mazda RX-7 bought in the netherlands to a friend of mine was not a 2+2 but a two seat car the finishings seemed years ahead of the 2+2 which was kind of ridiculous ,i had a friend who was always saying to me that he would like to have a Mazda like mine but when i opened my mouth and said it had a 1.3L wankel engine, he would look and say "it´s not possible" and in 87 there was no unleaded fuel in Portugal ,only regular and super but when i opened the door of the gasoline deposit it would say in big letter "only unleaded fuel" because no one knew what unleaded fuel was i used to put super which had more octanes, but "Katalizador, what is that"and by that time there was no inspection on cars only in the 90´s and in 94 i was driving a 74 w114 but bought in germany and it had portuguese plates but from 1983 ,once a roadpatrol asked for my papers and before leting me go the soldier said ,"in two years you have to take it to inspection, this was a very undeveloped country, i had a lot of friends from abroad that in the summer they would come to south Portuguese beaches but to show their kids how their country was 50 years ago . There were giant beaches in the south but Atlantic coast, that one could drive through out the coast and it was rare to see a Portuguese family ,only the ones that were fisherman´s and lived in litle villages by the sea . If a porshe 911 (which was rare)apeared people would say "it as a VW engine" ,a kid that his father had lot´s of money when studying and 18 he took his driver permit and his father bought him a porshe 900 and something that had a big sticker in the back in orange saying 80 in black that meant that one in his first year of driver´s permit couldn´t drive above 80 km´s hour and everyday in school people would make fun of him ,first a porshe that could drive faster than 80 km/h thahn the engine sound "it´s a VW engine" .The main car of an agriculture worker and owner of the lands was a 504 from Peugeot, mainly diesel engines but some had the 2.0L engine but some also had the 404 or the 504 sport coupé or convertible wich is rare today, a Pininfarina car
What’s the reason for getting it serviced in France? Better service?
@@weeevilswine cheaper
As an American visiting Germany a few years ago, we rented a black 407, in 4 door sedan flavor. Two things stuck out, the ride quality and the general feeling of heaviness. Closing the doors felt like closing a bank vault door. You could feel how heavy and planted it was on the road. It just felt really solid for a "non-luxury" car like a Mercedes or the like. The ride quality was this awesome balance of firm and poised but also soft and compliant. Having driven many regular brand cars from the US and Japan, from Ford Fusions, Mazda 6 and Toyota Camry...the 6 being my favorite.... I can say this French car really left a positive impression on me and makes me wish we could get them in the states.
PSA has tried for decades to offer their vehicles to selected dealers in the USA... but the low power numbers, while more than enough for legal speeds, are frowned upon in North America
Yes. Nice cars french guys do. I have a Citroen C4 coupe that is so special. May the Force be with you
Any sentence that starts with "as an American" ... you know there's nothing worth reading afterwards.
🇺🇸 = 💩
@@jonnywalker3208 Well, 54 people liked what I said....and you came at me with hostility which makes your comment completely useless. Like a child eating glue stumbling into a room of adults having a conversation and saying "I like turtles".....but it's ok, son, be proud of your contributions, for it is all you're capable of.
@@DiegoRuiz1991 That is too bad. The car was not "fast" but it had respectable torque when we went into the mountains in southern Germany.
I've owned a 3.0 v6 Coupe for the past 5 years, and put around 70k+ km on the clock, and have loved every single kilometer. It is supremely comfortable, surprisingly engaging to drive, and once I familiarised myself with all its quirks and isms, it became an absolute blast to drive somewhat aggressively. Aerodynamically, this thing is amazing. On even the slightest of hills/declines, it picks up speed surprisingly quickly, and you can almost feel it slicing its way through the air. I've driven in excess of 1000km in a trip more than once, with a break or two, and owing to how insulated the cabin in, I arrived home without any aches, pains or major fatigue - it was incredible.
The frameless doors however do result in wind noise being something of an issue, and the petrol engine could do with 20nm more of torque, but other than that, I love it. It has been my daily for 5 years, and whilst it does love a drink in the city (I live in a small town, in which intersections are so frequent, you may as well give up on driving economically) but I have managed to get 780km on a single tank, with city and highway driving. Considering how the car has a 67l tank, with quoted figures of 10l/100km combined, I actually did pretty well. Running costs have been pretty decent, and I have gotten away with doing 3 major services, and a single minor service in the 70k km. Fuel costs have been a different story, but with the enjoyment I derive from driving the car, I really don't care. The satnav doesn't work, but that's only because the South African government did not purchase the map rights, so the stock head unit never had nav - a discovery that tore me in half because other than a million buttons, in dash navigation was what I adored about the 407.
The 407 Coupe has been my favourite since I saw one in 2006, as my brother drove me home from school, and we saw a silver one driving up the road. I fell in love the moment I saw that long nose, and 12 years later when I was walking through town, I saw the one I currently own on the dealer lot, staring at her. It felt like her headlights followed me - like a pair of eyes - and I fell in love. I kept looking back to see if she still there as I walked along the road, and just knew that I had to have her. Fast forward a few weeks, and as I sat in the driver's seat for the first time as her owner, I wrapped my hands around the steering wheel and wept. It was a moment I will never forget, not least because two minutes later, I crashed into the gate of my building's underground lot as I drove out.
Anyway, this wasn't supposed to be nearly as long as it turned out to be. What I actually wanted to say was, Peugeot's get a bad rap from everybody and their dog, but honestly, there really are some diamonds in the Peugeot lineup, and the 407 Coupe is certainly one of them.
Cheers.
I don't comment much on videos, but now I just have to. Having owned one of these for about a year and a half now, I can say that you put my thoughts into words so well! Your observations from the slightly diesel sounding idle and the somewhat strange looks to the ride quality are spot on. When I tell people that the ride is comparable to some much higher end cars they look at me like I'm insane. Peugeot really nailed the chassis on these, it's firmer than the saloons but not umcomfortable and gets better the faster you go, up to a point of course. For the money I can't think of a better car. It's nice to see someone else also "gets" this car. Keep up the great work with the channel!
The idle noise is the hydraulic lifters. As it warms up, it purrs. That noise worried me initially but I miss my Coupe a lot.
I had the 406 Pininfarina 3.0 V6 coupe. It was a far better looking car. Fast and surprisingly economical. I kept it for 12 years and the only fault was a coil pack, easily replaced. Everything was standard, no extras to pay for - heated leather seats, sat nav, auto box.
Beautiful metallic pale blue with tan leather seats.
They are lovely cars…beautifully styled
Yes, the 406 Coupé was the better looking car, for sure. Very elegant yet sporty.
I love Pininfarina's design from the 90's and early 00's.
Yes, they are lovely. Bit of ferrari about their graceful lines. That's pinnfarina for you 🙂
Jesus that segment had some lookers at the time e46 c70 406 coupe. Even the original clk. Shame alfa hadnt made a 156 coupe just imagine 😮
@@bensmithkent22 Well, they did. Kind of. The Alfa GT was build on the 156 plateforme. Even if they did not look that similar.
11:45 Location : satisfactory
Made me giggle that did, if you go through a bad area does it change??
Watching your videos is the only way an American can experience all the quirky and unusual cars we just never got here. Keep it up James!
Agreed!
Would really like Jay to come back to the states to review a handful of cars not offered in the U.K./Europe just to see what he would pick/get excited for, or loath.
You can thank god there's no such garbage on wheels in your country
On the other hand, you Yanks get your revenge by sending us such atrocities as the PT Cruiser, the Dodge Neon and the Cadillac STS.
My friend has had a 407 saloon with the 2-litre petrol engine for over 15 years now and he has no intention of replacing it anytime soon. I've been servicing it for the last 10 years and the thing has been nearly faultless. It's never had any major electrical problems or anything go wrong with the powertrain. The front suspension "swivel joints", a tie rod end and droplink every now and then, rear brake calipers, the power steering pump and the center display screen have been the only things I recall replacing other than regular service items. It is a quiet and reliable workhorse even at 350k kilometers, a way better car than people give it credit for.
I like the 407 coupe, it's tres bon.
James deserves more subs, try to get this beast of a man to 300k this year!!
I have 3 of the extremely rare (only 51 sold in the uk) run out 3.0 hdi 407 coupes. Such an awesome car and with 310 bhp they fly. Electronic dampers, double glazed windows, these coupes are so refined and smooth. I achieve 40-50mpg on a run even with the weight and high power output. I bought my first one to replace my Range Rover sport and it’s miles better. I also have several of the much prettier v6 406 coupes but the 407 is actually a much improved car over the 406. Don’t get me wrong the 406 is brilliant, it goes well, looks and rides superb but the 407 is in a league above for refinement and comfort. Don’t compare the 407 to the 407 coupe it’s a totally different car, just enjoy it for what it is. Very underrated and also very reliable when looked after properly. The 407 coupe was also built on a slower moving production line to aid build quality and fit and finish. It shows as mine have not a single rattle or creak in 13 years.
Rubbish, these are riddled in faults, especially electronics.
Your dash is a Christmas tree!!
'Underrated'
Web speak, yuck.
The 407 and 407 coupe is not 'a totally different car' that's empirically false.
These cars are rubbish.
He needs 3 to keep one of them going....
@@tastypymp1287 try again when u get sobered up from the W-E
French cars always did, and still do, look so much better than all the other metal boxes bouncing around out there. Better built and performing than many would claim too. Loving current Peugeot and Citroen and DS. Renault on a roll too. Allez.
Renault doesn’t get to recieve praise. But PSA is What makes a french car Good
Any time I see one of these I think "wonder what those are like"? Wonder no more!
Edit: Thank you, Michaels brother.
I used to own a 407 coupe (the 2.7 V6 diesel) and it was a great car. I had it for about 5 years and loved it. It's not a sports car, but think of it as a grand tourer and you won't be disappointed.
I saw a dark blue metallic 407 coupe with white leather seats last year. I must admit it's a good looking thing.
I've got a big soft spot for the Peugeot coupes. The 406 is still a looker, the 407 is not quite as good looking but still distinctive and has grown on me over the years and the RCZ after it's facelift is a lovely looking car. Engines are mostly 'meh' but honestly, if I needed a cheap but stylish car, a Peugeot coupe would be on the shortlist somewhere.
I had a blue 406 coupe for 17 years. Loved it.
@@Rinanathar I've had a blue 406 coupe for 5 years. It's been great fun but it's now not sure if it's Italian or French. Rust in the rear three quarters, electrical issues, random limp mode and bits of trim falling off. Still gorgeous though.
@@cologne2792 I had 5 th gear die on me window and windscreen motors fail but that was it. 230000 miles. A beautiful but tired girl. You’re right about French Italian identities. :) 👍👍
My uncle as a 2.7hdi automatic.
He had it about 10 years and it’s done nearly 200000miles and it’s been no less reliable than any other brand.
My uncle has said about selling it but like he said there is no point as it isn’t worth anything but it’s reliable and he likes it.
RCZ really needed the 3.0 & RWD
This is why I love this channel. Owner of an F12 is literate about the wonders of a old Pug barge. Brilliant.
I once dreamed of a 406 coupe as my first car, but I didn't end up getting one. Sadly. The 406 coupe was incredibly beautiful.
this is the reason I have this 406 coupe with a v6 engine now :)
on my way to inspect mine :)@@gintas830
Please Please find a decent 607 with the 2.2 Petrol and you will find out that it is a car even less appreciated and known even among Peugeot Connaisseurs. Just an oddball with a huge boot, plenty of room, excellent handling in town (the turning circle is smaller than you would expect) and fun on twisty country roads. I own a 607 and also a 2.2 petrol 406 Coupé. I will probably keep them for ever 🤩
being in America I always like watching videos like yours about vehicles that I didn't even know existed. It also makes me jealous sometimes...lol
Leaving a bad BMW 118i with engine problems, I went on the hunt for a sensible car with less kilometers, a low price but still having at least a 2.0 petrol. Found myself buying a 407, I did considered the coupé but being heavier and slightly more expensive, I kept to my goal of being sensible and got the sedan. This video makes me regret my choice a bit !
I still miss the BMW for its rear wheel drive balance, but to be fair i'm having good fun on twisty country roads with the 407. Give the rear tires a bit too much pressure and you can even loose the rear on the wet !
Had a new 1997 406 Coupe. It was a decent thing.
My biggest surprise with this car was the fact that the suspension on these is pretty much bulletproof even though it's quite complex. The roads were pretty bad where I live until very recently and this Pug took them like a champ for years, whereas the competitive multilink solution in VW/Audi cars from the era would report its dissatisfaction with the roads quality (by knocking audibly) every year or two .
I've owned a 2.2 Hdi diesel SW GT from new, 15 years old next week, 120k, It still rides like new, although the lower ball joints do fail fairly quickly, mine is on it's second set, I also own a 2016 508, which does not have the double wishbones of the 407, the difference is like night and day, fidgety and crashy on anything but a good road. If I had to choose just one, it would be the 407. The 407 is "white gold". Apparently a colour that only I, in the entire world, likes.
I own a Peugeot 407 2.0 hdi and it's the worst piece of shit i have ever driven. Front suspension is like paper, i can change something every 3 months.
Only the engine on these cars is good, everything else is a french piece of shit
@@FuelPoverty my dad has a light gold old mercedes c190. It grew on me and i quite enjoy it now
I know many people hate French cars through their own experiences or Top Gear telling them such, but there are some absolute shining lights in Peugeot's history, this being one along with the 406 Coupe, 306, 106 of course the 205 and even really the 206 - each of them had a decent top end model which I've been lucky enough to own most.
I'm putting a rare gold 2.2 HDI 406 Coupe back on the road at the moment, but if that doesn't work out, I'll be seeking out a 407 Coupe I think!
It'll not disappoint you!
What about the Peugeot 406 Coupé from the late 90s early 2000s? One of the most beautiful designs ever put into production and still is, affordable too! Nobody ever talks about that underrated gem. Have they all rusted away or something? 🤷♂️
Er no.
A nice example of Pininfarina design but 'one of the most beautiful designs ever put into production' is a deeply absurd and false statement.
I agree.
@@tastypymp1287 each to their own opinion of course. The 406 coupe is stunning, easily one of the best. Although my opinion is skewed with nostalgia as my Dad was on the the first to get a Tucanae green 406 coupe back in early 97.
This is a video on a 407 Coupe in case you missed it
@Pink Guy Yeah but their inner narc needs to make it about them.
It's a cool car I guess but I've always thought the design was a let down in comparison to the previous model. The 406 coupé was much more elegant (designed by Pinifarina, with lines similar to Ferrari's of the time).
From a pure looks perspective i'll always liked how these look as an estate
a friend of mines had a black 407 Coupe with the 3.0l V6 and man what a car that was. Rode beautiful, had a wonderful induction noise and the seats really do hug you!!
I love Peugeot, when I was young, my dad had a 504 and he loved it so much
For some reason, I really like 407 Coupé, how it looks and drives, especially with 3.0V6 petrol. It is smooth, quiet, comfortable and classy. Something almost Jaguar-ish about it. But they are very rare, especially with my preferred petrol V6.
JayEmm is literally the easiest car youtuber to watch. Great content that highlights some absolutely terrific hidden gems.
Very kind Sean!
I drove 407 SW 2.0 diesel for 9 years, and was quite pleased with it. Top mileage, lots of trunk space, fairly reliable. It had the notorious air vent claps failure and the screen was faulty. The replacement screen was dirt cheap, air vents not so much. Today I drive C5 3.0 HDI biturbo (you mentioned that engine in this video), and this engine is a joy to drive. Not the fastest from the start, but it has some power when it starts to move. I believe that a 407 coupe with that engine would be a serious intercontinental transporter :-)
You have me contemplating on becoming a Peugeot driver.
I genuinely think this and the 406 coupe built by Pininfarina are one of the most beautiful mid-class coupes ever built.
Another rare coupe of this sort is the Renault Laguna Coupe which could also make an interesting video.
The car is absolutely gorgeous inside out, like the old 406. But I will never understand why they come with such small underpowered engines. You would think these would come with a 3.5 or bigger 6 cylinder that could move the car a lot easier, plus make it sound better as well.
Not sure what it is but there has always been something about the big Pug coupes ive liked...lol
Think these have aged quite well. Used to be relatively common ( in silver ) but a rare sight now
Brilliant content again , Really enjoy these on my lunch hour at work !
I'm ashamed to say that I didn't even know there was a 407 Coupe. Now that I do, I rather like it.
u should do the Peugeot 406 Coupé pininfarina someday the v6 out of it was in the venturi 300 atlantique
I think this car is beautiful. Would love to replace my second car (Mercedes W203 with the M272, it may be a sport edition but with a manual gearbox you can't really enjoy it because of the massive weight of the flywheel) with this Peugeot.
Speaking of French cars. A Citroën C6 overtook my coach on the M4 today. C6GCT was the reg. Haven't seen one in years and thats more French than the French themselves lol.
The pre-facelift Peugeot 406 Coupe has always been a favourite of mine. It's a shame one cannot find a single example in proper condition.
It’s probably because I have them all! 8 of them all in mint condition stored away.,!
@@frenchbred2081 really? I can’t tell if you are joking
@@frenchbred2081
Lucky you ;) !
@@BenjiB- it’s not a joke. I have 50 cars in the collection, 8 of which are 406 v6 coupes.
Why are they so rare and hard to find in good condition? One of my personal favorite (affordable) car designs ever.
Until my two lads turned into six footers (five years ago) we ran a pair of these as family cars, with an MG Midget for fun. They were both black, 2.2 petrols, one cloth, one leather interior. I preferred the cloth as it gripped far better. The suspension was sublime with double wishbone front and indie rear, a very pretty aluminium structure if that's what floats your boat.
I liked the double glazing, I liked the solid feel, the fuel economy and the power delivery, and the cheap parts. I wasn't fond of the looks, but you don't have to look at it from the inside. We took ours to the South of France and set off numerous speed cameras (never received any fines :-) ) and perhaps the best bit was both cost less than £2k.
The only downside is the lack of rear headroom. Shame, they were brill and I will get another at some point.
Would be interesting to see other Coupe’s. Renault Laguna Coupe is another odd one.
That burgundy leather is wonderful, if only my 308 GTi had upholstry that nice..
Thanks for making me feel old. I'm. Only 42 and I can vividly remember the 406 coming out like it was yesterday, let alone the 407. My dad had a 405 for most of my childhood
This is why I love this channel 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Its a old top gear in the present day
3.0 v6 Twin turbo diesel coupe is an Very rare car in this country. Couldn't find one at the time I was looking.
I have got 3 , cornered the market!
😂 now I know why. That was the deal breaker for me. Didn't fancy the 2.7
@@posniknelb6114 indeed. They do come up for sale rarely and with only 51 sold in the uk 13 years ago there are even less about now. What did you buy in the end?
Audi a5 3.0tdi coupe
Aged very well this car, look at the "gawwwping" front ends we have nowadays.
Just saw that the sedan pulled 1.0g at Brands Hatch on the occassion of Autocar's 2004 for Britain's Best Driver's Car. However, you've got to drive a 3.0 petrol version. They all come with an adaptive suspension (with around 17 stages of stiffness that can change every 22 ms and a sport mode to have it stiffer all the time), a variable steering (hydraulic, not electrohydraulic like the one you drove) and a valved exhaust (it even does pops). The engine's not the quickest, but it makes an incredible noise inside, much more special than an Alfa V6 of that time and if it's not a coupe it only comes with a 6 speed auto that was also fitted to the Mini Cooper S or the BMW i8. If it's a bit wet, it throws the back around very easily. My dad has a 3.0 petrol SW from new and it's just surprising to see what a special car it is. BTW, the mk1 508 was also a 407 underneath, but with double wishbone fitted only to the top GT spec. Anyway, thanks a lot for the review, it makes me giggle to have someone like you say good things about the car.
Peugeots are both amazing and utterly shite at the same time, as a Volvo fan boy (Volvo died in 2005 as far as I'm concerned) Peugeots are actually very similar in opposite ways, and I do love their bullet proof diesels!
Twas a time when Peugeot were known for outstanding handling and quick gearboxes, they lost the plot post the Pininfarina era somewhere.
I love the petrol engines from peugeot
That's very interesting and I want it but I don't think we ever got them here. Pity.
I've owned the 2.7 hdi for 6 year's. Amazing engine,comfort and luxury for the price. Since i couldn't afford the A5
I enjoyed every single word you expressed. I have a coupe and I really adore it! Take a look at it❤
Really good review James. It's a car I would never have considered test driving but maybe I would now
This video almost made me cry. I have a 1.6 hdi 407 sw and i absolutely love my wagon. But everyone makes fun and jokes about how bad the 407 is. This is video made me very happy. The 407 coupe is beautiful and it has some great features! Amazing video and thank you.
407 is not bad, is terrible
This car is just a waste of engineering, heavy, clunky, thirsty, nah, doesn't worth the time
I always love the look of the 407 Coupe, that and the 308 RCZ which was gorgeous.
And 308cc
this peugeot cars are surprising good i had driven the van of this model and also last summer i drove a convertible and it was a nice car to drive allthough it seems the van is looking better but all are good, the new peugeot 508 GT van is incredible good very low to the ground and fast as hell ,the last peugeot i had was a 80´s renforcê of the 504 model with 7 places for persons to ride on it ,now it´s working like new but the last time i started the engine i didn´t touched the van for almost two years but at first turn it started for my surprise also in 92 i bought a 1.8 205 gti it was fast as hell and some years afters i drove from a friend a 2.0L 206 ,i waS SURPRISED BY IT´S POWER BUT I HAVE TO SAY THAT AT 70KM/H THE WEIGHT OF THE CAR WAS 7 KG IN A HIGHWAY(sorry for the caps lock) ,i remenber driving a GT2000(veloce) from 1972 ,a Alfa-Romeu and when i needed it to go to the beach i had to fix it but a friend of mine had from is old father a 1973 car peugeot 504 also 2.0L gasoline with a Huge mouth carburator (4 buterflies or quadruple, the same system as in the BMW 2002) well manteined and i drove it for one month and it were rare the new cars at the time that had the same H.P. ,most of the cars on the road didn´t had 70 h.p. ,i´m talking about Portugal
I own the 2.7 diesel model. Absolute grand tourer! Very smooth on the highway but stable during curves due to the active suspension.
Ha! same here. I also have the 2.7 HDI with active suspension but the SW, I love every mile I drive in that car!
I also have a 2.7 HDI coupe and it is very comfortable to drive and to make long trips, the thermostat box failed me once but everything is fine, it already has 167,000 kilometers.
Hi Raul have u with car any problems?
@@raula.c4771 Are you satisfied with the car, would you recommend it?
@@raula.c4771 hmm ok. thanks
Peugeot make some attractive cars. Wish I could get that 407 estate in the U.S.
Quite a rare and interesting car. In terms of image much more attractive than a BMW / Mercedes / Audi etc.
This coupe, if specced all out makes an extremely compelling grand tourer with the 2.0 hdi engine for two people.
That seems like a really decent car to be fair.... loved your review of it, great stuff and top notch reporting on it too...
YES!!!! I love it. Had one exactly like that myself. They are awesome and I would buy another any day. Rear seat access is very easy since the front seats move forward electrically. Just don't fit a knock-off Chinese A/C pump - it totalled mine after 3 years.
How did the AC pump total your car? Belt went into the cambelt?
This particular color combo, interior and exterior, really does justice to this car. It still isn't as pretty as a 406 coupé but honestly few Peugeots are. It's a handsome car nevertheless, particularly in V6 form
Amazing looking car
Squint your eyes a bit and you might see a bloated GT86 lol
Fell in love with the 407sw soon as I saw it, just looked so different and sleek. I have a 2010 sw sport and won’t part with it till it dies, just love it ❤
Enzo liked his Peugeot's.. 404/504.I had a 504 estate n 406.Good cars.
I don't think the 407 coupé is pretty like the 406 coupé, but I do think it's handsome, to my eye moreso than the saloon and SW variants. And with the amount of kit on offer for the price, plus the well-tuned suspension, I can see why you'd choose one over something German.
Indeed but people always think the German cars are the best! I had more issues with my bmw/mercs over the years than any of my Peugeots.
@@frenchbred2081 I can believe it. I've never owned a German car myself, but family and friends have done, and they've all had plenty of issues with them. All cars have their issues, but for me it comes down to how much of a pain those issues are to fix. I've had good experience with Italian cars being simple and cheap to fix.
@@joshbrailsford indeed sometimes the ownership experience is better if a fault is easily rectified as well. My 360 spider had a failed F1 pump a few years ago and it was sourced cheaply easily from Alfa Romeo rather than 4 times the price for the same part from Ferrari.
I remember thinking it was absolutely hideous to the point it actually made me a bit cross!! and can't really remember why now, of course the 406 is an amazing design but this thing really isn't that bad especially in this colour and the interior is legit nice
I had a 407 coupe 2.7 diesel GT auto coupe on a 56 plate which I bought as a natural successor to a 3.0 V6 auto 406 coupe. I absolutely loved it & kept it until 2018 when the combination of ULEZ & £450 a year road tax did for it. I replaced it with a VW cc which despite being a GT R Line was nowhere near as well equipped (no electric seats or folding mirrors) nor quite as much fun to drive. I passed on the first generation 508 but now have a 2020 (70) new generation 508 petrol hybrid. I'm not sure that I like it quite as much, it has a great spec but the fuel storage penalty I pay for the sake of having a battery that costs about £4.50 to put a full charge on & then returns about 15 miles on a good day is of questionable logic.
I love those more affordable car reviews
I’ve been looking at fun cars for under £5k and have been thinking about these. Brera’s and RCZ are also an option. Any other thoughts?
Avoid the petrols on both marques. PSA petrols of that era were sh#t, Brera petrols are mediocre GM units, (except for the 1750Tbi which is a gem)
It's so beautiful,especially when you see it in person
Wait a minute, why does it look like a Ferrari Maranello....
The looks do let it down a bit compared to previous Peugeot coupes, but at current prices they are tempting.
These are pretty much the same thoughts I have about the laguna coupe. Loved that thing 👍
I never understood why the Laguna coupe never sold more. It was a very nice looking car when it came out. It has aged a bit now, but whenever I see one on the roads, I always kind of fancy driving one.
@@benjaminvolant3083 drove one up until recently, it was a lovely car!
@@benjaminvolant3083 i never heard of a laguna coupé ,it´s the first time i´m reading that exists one, only knew the megane coupé wich was a nice car , a cousin of mine has one and the plastic parts on the dash are just breaking just by toutching them
Early 2000s vibes. Great work!
Those 1.6 hdi are brilliant engines if there serviced and maintained ive ran them to mega miles
I know of a 13 Berlingo 1.6 HDI at 550k miles on original engine
What happened to your 20% off car vertical?
Peugeot get too much stick undeservedly
As do Citroen
Guess Vauxhall will too now.
They reduced it, guess it was that or put the price up. Not my decision!
My first car was a 407SW as well. Unfortunately a drunk driver crashed into me head on. Me and my passanger walked away only with bruises from the seatbelts. The other guy died on the spot. Props for safety.
The most comfortable leather seats I ever sat in a car. None of that side-holding sh*t. Just a comfortable, squeaky, cushioned thick-leather couch.
The 406 was better imo, the last of the decent Peugeots
Never owned a Peugeot but do think they are a better brand manufacturer than they are given credit. My 83 years old Dad has a petrol 207 GT on a 58 plate in the 12 years of so other than the electronic power steering has never let him down admittedly he now only does 4000 miles a year but he did he's done about 60,000 miles with no problem. I've alwat thought the 407 coupe was a decent looking motor along with the RCZ.
Primarily the UK motor industry journalists are a bit biased so it becomes distorted opinions in the public imo. Peugeot iirc are the biggest selling brand in France ahead of Renault & Citroen and they're as much of a car nation as UK although probably a bit more patriotic too.
The biggest issue in this car is that it doesn't have any good petrol engine, I would rather pick Laguna III coupe with great 2.0 turbo engine if I was looking for French coupe
True, in that the V6 was an old line of engine. And the 2.2 petrol similar, with not much tuning potential at all sadly. But very very robust. If I had not been running mine on lpg for 80k miles, from 70 to 150k, it would have ploughed on to 200k no problem at all. Used maybe half a litre of oil a week, on around 800 miles mixed driving (motorway and gunning it).
As a driver of a now ten year old 207SW:
Buying that car must have been one of the best ideas I had. I now have that car for 6 of those years in that that time i had to replace (exept for regular service): the electronic cluch of the AC. and thats it.
I get charged for a hatchback whilst driving a station wagon that did put on two occasions my dad's passat to shame.
Great meeting you James, glad you enjoyed the car!
Nice job with the tyre dressing!
@James_08_07 its not bad for a car park detail! Haha
Thank you for letting james show and drive it for us.
Loving the leather colour, and my works 2019 berlongo van (which iam sat in) has the same lindicator/ light stalk👍
@bryan yes, it reminds me of my Peugeot 206 I had as a first car! Leagues above that though in terms of build quality and reliability
The biggest problem with the 407 Coupe is that it had to replace the 406 Coupe 😂, of which I own one. I have no experiences with the 407, but it seems like it shares much of the 406s qualities other than Pininfarinas superb design
Interesting how the buttressed rear window was carried over though
i prefer the 407 than 407...
this video explains why i am convinced James has the BEST shots and camera setups in all of his videos, because he is a film school graduate! good to know!
It's actually mad how a review of something like this is so much more interesting than some unattainable ferrari
I owned one of these just after they were launched.
After an accident, the car was off the road for a year because no one (including Peugeot dealers) could get the front lights to work after they were replaced by genuine Peugeot parts.
And spare parts (in South Africa, at least) were prohibitively expensive.
Ironically the car got written off just after it was finally fully repaired when my wife drove into a cow in Botswana - the day after I’d written off a Dodge Caliber by driving into a cow 🥴
Edit: just to add insult to injury, the insurance company paid out R100k less for the car, because Peugeot had dropped their prices by R100k on the 3.0l to get rid of them 🤬
It's a shame the 508 never got a Coupe. 406 and 407 are gorgeous affordable cars in my book.
This thing looks a lot like the 1998 Dodge Avenger coupe we had here in America. Although, I have no doubt this was built to a higher standard 😅.
Not sure
Thanks for this. Nice to see such a nice car with 100k miles on it. I am in Madagascar now and they sell cars for shockingly high prices claiming to be 1 owner with 85K km that are simply outrageous. The car market here is tragic. And there is. O real financing of new cars. Folks should never complain about $ 500/ month BMW lease with 30,000 mile allowance. That just does not exist here. 😢
What most journo's forgot to mention (or just didn't care about) is the engineering. Double wishbone and multi-link suspension is just the start. All those arms are made from cobapress aluminium (hybrid forged), along with both front and rear subframes to save unsprung mass. The bonnet is aluminium and the bootlid reinforced thermoplastic to reduce the sprung mass. With all that weight saving... how did it get to 1.7 tonnes? Chassis reinforcement and sound deadening. It is the torsionally stiffest car Pug ever made and maxed out the Euro NCAP front crash test. Even the steering uses electro-hydraulic to give better feel but still be comfortable and economical. Every panel has sound deadening material put in. The entertainment system had a 30Gb hard drive to store your music on, some came with USB drives and you could even use voice commands (as well as it worked in the mid 00's).
I can personally tell you.
No. No, don't do it.
It's a nightmare for reliability and parts.
Don't do it.
Parts and reliability on all mine have not been an issue.
@@frenchbred2081 Rubbish. Why lie about it? I've bet you've got lights on all over your dash. You know it!!
And go get a quote to replace your door window....
@@frenchbred2081 'Parts and reliability on ALL mine'....
Speaks volumes....
@@tastypymp1287 in what way? I don’t just have Peugeots before you assume anything. I have problems with my jap and German cars mostly. The French ones have been good.