I’m 63 and just getting into the sport this is very confusing to a laymen but if been watching videos on how the system works and realized there is way more to these guns then meets the eye! Great video and crazy how the manufacturers very in quality! Have a fantastic day
Heey man, your videos are very great and ad a lot of value to the Airsoft community. I noticed you quit posting videos again, and the shooting test never came out. I sincerely hope you are doing well, and hope that you are not having throat cancer again. Whatever you go through, stay strong 🍀! I can't wait to see you back on the channel
I use the green MAG7 with pps fx7 barrel (455mm) in a Maxx unit with the 6mm alu nub from Maxx…… I never see so a nice hop with 0,32g bbs 80m with 1,7 Joule on a water barrel is no problem every shoot was a hit. It is great for the price.
They look great, just as you pointed out, excellent molding with the bevel on the feed lips. Very interested to see how well these turn out. Would you say that's the same material as the Maple Leaf, EPDM?
Hey man, I see some coments are talking about previous episodes of cancer, hope you ok, and hope you can make those shooting test vids for us. Good video man!
hey great video unfortunately you didn't upload the test shooting. But have you experienced which of the two buckings delivers better results? I'm assuming that the fly is very good for bullets up to 0.32 and that the mag probably delivers better performance with heavier bullets.
I never really knew for sure what bucking was before this, so this helps alot, thank you. Could you do a video about shimming gearboxes next, I bout a gearbox for an m4 used and it said that it needs to be shimmed and I have no idea what to do. Thanks man, keep up the great work!
These aren’t buckings, but packings. Bucking is a mistranslation by systema way way way way back and the airsoft industry was/is too stupid to correct the error.
I got the green begadi ones, and sadly they didn't work in a VFC stock hopup hk416 V2. The Mr Hop works in the same configuration. I think the problem is that the rubber that I did get doesn't hold the BB with the lips. Causing double feeds like crazy. Tested with G&G en Begadi BBs
Vfc hop Units are known to be very picky when it comes to hop rubbers, if you have too loose lips, you Can wrap a little ptfe tape just on the outside of the lips and reinstall, this will tighten the lip grip on the bb
I Got a begadi bucking and played two days With it...im really really satisfied With the performance of IT...and the price is so good to. I highly recommend IT
Have you seen or used the Airsoft Philosopher barrels, buckings, and VSR chamber? I spent like $265 on them last year and can't get good results, wondering if you have any experience or suggestions. Also, have you seen the CTM Arrow bucking on WGC shop?
Yes I have seen the the ctm, but never been a fan of designs like this, like the g&g blue and krytac orange. No cant say i have experience with that combination sorry
Hey bro, greetings to you. Im using Mr. Hop 70 deg right in my HK417 DMR. It shoots great but would like to test out the 7mm Begadi Pro 60 deg. Already have the inner barrel with a 7mm window (500mm x 6.03). Just wanted to know if this will be bstter than my current set-up or will it be worse???
Do I remember correct that you mentioned you have MTW forged coming? If it was so, have you done any testing with it? Some people say it would work best with silent industries hop arm 1.0 and g&g green rubber. Any opinion?
put the MAG5 Bucking (70°) in my SRS Sniper. Together with a prometheus barrel, I reach with .43g BBs 120m at 150psi with a spread of 30cm. Insane good bucking
Hey, were you able to get the Testing Video up? I can't find it and not sure if I should get the Fly5 / Mag 7 over the ML Macron for my MTW HPA. Currently playing 0.28g, 0.3g BBS on small fields and 0.36g on larger ones.
Thanks for the insight/sharing. I got to point out something. There is a new Maple Leaf 2021 silicone Hop-up buckings. So im thinking, about comparing these two. Begadi vs. maple leaf 2021. A Friend of mine just bought the Begadi MAG 5. Im want to compare the MAG to the maple leaf MR-Hop. There is one information, that isnt clear about the begadi buckings as well. What kind of material they are using. Right now, im thinking, silicone is the way to go. What do you think?
I did the “review” on the 2021 two weeks ago, and also a shooting test. So when i have the master mods r hop barrel and tru hop, i will have a shoot out with all of them 👍
@@reflexairsoft4648 Thank you for your reply. Yeah i know that you did a video about that maple leaf 2021 bucking. But in this video, its kind of confusing, because on the table you still got the older version of the maple leaf bucking laying around. Sounds like you compare the new begadi bucking with the older maple leaf bucking. Probably i wont matter long, because there will be coming a new video with all of them.
Man, your videos are so helpful. Keep ot going specially these new buckings. BTW, I run a wolverine inferno gen 2 on mine. Whar nub will you sugges for a mag 5 bucking combo? Have a 6.05 PDI barrel by the way
Is there any way to purchase these in the U.K.? I tried Begadi’s website, but they say they do not currently ship to the U.K., and I can’t find them listed anywhere else.
Just watched a video that tested different buckings and the conclusion was that buckings are stipulated by bb weight. The heavier bb does better with a harder bucking. Lighter bbs don't really have much of a difference.
Awesome video as always. I'm a bit of a hopup perfectionist myself. Just bought a CYMA CM 098A (SR25). Already changed barrel and hopup to the following: Retro Arms CNC hopup Gen2, lambda 6.01 barrel 420mm, maple leaf Mr hop 75° and the omega nub. Should I go for a Maxx hopup or is it not going to yield much better results than the Retro Arms one? I actually ordered a pair of MAG5 70° along with the begadi nubs after watching your video 🤣 Keep up the good work and we need more shooting test videos 😁 Greetings from 🇸🇪
Hejsan 🇩🇰 the retroarms Unit is honestly amazing, I do not own one atm, but the ones i have tried where very good. And you will see no improvement with changing to the maxx unit, so i would not 😊 The shooting test are almost done, but it takes a Long time to test it all, thats also why its been a while since the last upload 😑 thank you for the comment and thank you for the kind words
@@reflexairsoft4648 thank you for the super fast reply! You just saved me a good chunk of money. I was honestly thinking of getting the Maxx hopup, just for trying Tusind tak!
My reply is late, you could consider upgrading the nozzle on the cyma sr25. It doenst provide good airseal. If you achieve a good airseal you can change to a weaker spring which takes stress of your gun and makes it more efficient. How is the accuracy with the mag5?. Did you notice a diffrence?
I'm thinking about buying those buckings and the day after you release a video about them. What a timing. Waiting for the range and accuracy test! Did you also buy new Begadi barrels?
If you are talking about the pps barrels with the large Windows then no, i did however order the davinci 70 barrel that has a 6.8mm window and the master mods r hop barrel thing 😊
@@reflexairsoft4648 Some news. Tried pps barrel 455 mx7 with begadi blue mag7. Pretty good range, easy 0.32 lifting. I just did quick test, about 55m chest size hit.
Hello, what do you think, with one can i use fly5 or mag5 with maple leaf 6,02 AEG precision barel, and what version is the best for 0.32 bb? Than you your answer.
Neato! Looking forward to the shooting test, for the shooting test do you shoot indoors for a range, and what length is the range? Probably going to buy a few different brands of buckings/hardness and then test those out when I purchase an MTW Forged edition to see what best goes, probably slap in a PDI barrel and call it a day after that with upgrades. (gonna be a long day shooting at the indoor range though, to swap out everything and to keep stuff testing)
I am very lucky that at my work, the wearhouse guys let me use a unused corridor of the wearhouse, its 125m Long but I dont really test aegs at that lenght. Having different buckings is always a great idea, some fit some guns better 👍
Woaaa, thats an insane range makes me wish our airsoft regulator has that kinda facilities (we have max 60m's) but nice! Would you happen to know a video/introduction on how to take-down a mp5k TM high-cycle? I recently bought it from a teammate who swapped away to a high-capa. I don't want to service the gearbox (good old case of magic TM sprinkles) but want to service the barrel/bucking/hop-up but cannot figure out how to access it (and being scared to break it)
Hi Reflex! Hope you can help me without me disassemble my mtw again😂. I have a prommy EG 6.03 barrel. Do you perhaps know how big that barrel window is?
@@Whitepolo95 I dont know the exact size (got the 455mm EG prom) but the window is not large enough for ML buckings. It works, but not as good as it is suppose to do.
Hello, have you tested also begadi PPS fx7 barrels? they should be designed to work with these fly7/mag7 buckings. it looks like a very good combo for that price.(btw, you are a great airsoft UA-camr, you deserve more subs:))
Thank you, did not upload my shooting test yet, but Can tell you that the mag7 is on top with 0.45g but it was on a modified prommy barrel. So did not try the pps. Thank you for the kinds words
MR hop best hop up rubber i have used got Prometheus 6.03 50 degree 350fps with .20g shooting .32g and 60 degree not tried 60 yet. very good results with hop only just on.
@@christopherhayto1089 The MR Hop worked with your Prom barrel? I have a prom barrel and the window is a little too short to work properly. Have a ZCI barrel on the way to test it.
Hvilket gummi vil du anbefale til mit setup: HK416D Polarstar FE Gen 3 med lilla poppet og nozzle 509mm PDI 6,05 Maxx Pro hop up hus Maple Leaf MR 70 grader Bruger Maxx 4,5mm R-hop alu nub 0,40g BLS kugler Dog føler jeg den skyder lidt upræcist. Sidst jeg testede den gik den omkring 2,7J med 80 PSI.
Har kun været ude to gange at spille med den hvor den skød nogenlunde. Hos Hardball Nord, og Syddjurs Hardball Forening. Mener de fleste steder har regler op til 3J på DMR med længere afstande 😁
Its a claim, do you have something factual to back it up? Remember im not selling these or is sponsored by any company, and I dont Think I ever said they are better because I have never tried tnt t hop buckings so I cant State that they are better or worse. But since you Can Make that claim you must have tried both
@@kai9086 From my test results I can say that TNT rubbers with a good hop unit, nub and barrel gives me the best range/accuract results. However the TNT rubbers have 1 huge drawback, the rubber lips are "straight" and a little loose. In my AEGs they work fine but to get them working good with HPA units has always been a bitch IMO, I always run into loss of pressure problems with HPA and TNT.
I’m 63 and just getting into the sport this is very confusing to a laymen but if been watching videos on how the system works and realized there is way more to these guns then meets the eye! Great video and crazy how the manufacturers very in quality! Have a fantastic day
Awesome! You're never too late! Welcome to the hobby!
Heey man, your videos are very great and ad a lot of value to the Airsoft community. I noticed you quit posting videos again, and the shooting test never came out. I sincerely hope you are doing well, and hope that you are not having throat cancer again. Whatever you go through, stay strong 🍀! I can't wait to see you back on the channel
I use the green MAG7 with pps fx7 barrel (455mm) in a Maxx unit with the 6mm alu nub from Maxx……
I never see so a nice hop with 0,32g bbs
80m with 1,7 Joule on a water barrel is no problem every shoot was a hit.
It is great for the price.
Are you a german guy? Because of that high joules, whatever, i think, i should get a mag bucking as well
@@sgtdomimixedcontent6384 Yes, I am 😄
how did you measure 80m?
What do you think - blue or green for 40g bbs?
There is a list on their page to see which colour fits perfect to your bb weight
Looking forward to the shooting test :)
They look great, just as you pointed out, excellent molding with the bevel on the feed lips. Very interested to see how well these turn out. Would you say that's the same material as the Maple Leaf, EPDM?
Im not sure atm, they feel different, bit im sure its just an add in, iwrote a comment on a vid of yours 👍
@@reflexairsoft4648 thanks man, have sent you a friends request
what color is your begadi?
Please share your shooting test results! Thanks!
Hey man, I see some coments are talking about previous episodes of cancer, hope you ok, and hope you can make those shooting test vids for us. Good video man!
hey great video unfortunately you didn't upload the test shooting. But have you experienced which of the two buckings delivers better results? I'm assuming that the fly is very good for bullets up to 0.32 and that the mag probably delivers better performance with heavier bullets.
Fly for up to 0.36g and MAG from 0.36g and hevaier.
I never really knew for sure what bucking was before this, so this helps alot, thank you. Could you do a video about shimming gearboxes next, I bout a gearbox for an m4 used and it said that it needs to be shimmed and I have no idea what to do. Thanks man, keep up the great work!
These aren’t buckings, but packings. Bucking is a mistranslation by systema way way way way back and the airsoft industry was/is too stupid to correct the error.
@@opairsoft8100 and it does not matter, everybody knows it as buckings now.
750 Followers ? I can´t understand that. Your Videos are So Helpful. Thank you So Much
Great video, I saw these bucking and was wondering about them, quality of finish looks better.
It is better, its the small details that matters on these buckings 👍
I got the green begadi ones, and sadly they didn't work in a VFC stock hopup hk416 V2. The Mr Hop works in the same configuration. I think the problem is that the rubber that I did get doesn't hold the BB with the lips. Causing double feeds like crazy. Tested with G&G en Begadi BBs
Vfc hop Units are known to be very picky when it comes to hop rubbers, if you have too loose lips, you Can wrap a little ptfe tape just on the outside of the lips and reinstall, this will tighten the lip grip on the bb
I Got a begadi bucking and played two days With it...im really really satisfied With the performance of IT...and the price is so good to.
I highly recommend IT
Have you seen or used the Airsoft Philosopher barrels, buckings, and VSR chamber?
I spent like $265 on them last year and can't get good results, wondering if you have any experience or suggestions.
Also, have you seen the CTM Arrow bucking on WGC shop?
Yes I have seen the the ctm, but never been a fan of designs like this, like the g&g blue and krytac orange.
No cant say i have experience with that combination sorry
Did you resolve your problems?
@@17_jager37 Sold that shit, and the guy went out of business not long after
Do you have any recommendations for upgrading the hopup or possibly R-hop the Tokyo Marui MWS GBBR?
Hey bro, greetings to you. Im using Mr. Hop 70 deg right in my HK417 DMR. It shoots great but would like to test out the 7mm Begadi Pro 60 deg. Already have the inner barrel with a 7mm window (500mm x 6.03).
Just wanted to know if this will be bstter than my current set-up or will it be worse???
Do I remember correct that you mentioned you have MTW forged coming? If it was so, have you done any testing with it? Some people say it would work best with silent industries hop arm 1.0 and g&g green rubber. Any opinion?
put the MAG5 Bucking (70°) in my SRS Sniper. Together with a prometheus barrel, I reach with .43g BBs 120m at 150psi with a spread of 30cm. Insane good bucking
Any update on the buckings
Hey, were you able to get the Testing Video up? I can't find it and not sure if I should get the Fly5 / Mag 7 over the ML Macron for my MTW HPA. Currently playing 0.28g, 0.3g BBS on small fields and 0.36g on larger ones.
Do you have an estimation when your shooting test video will be up?
Some time Next week, had a damaged lambda barrel (damage due to shipping) that i needed in the test.
Thanks for the insight/sharing. I got to point out something. There is a new Maple Leaf 2021 silicone Hop-up buckings. So im thinking, about comparing these two. Begadi vs. maple leaf 2021. A Friend of mine just bought the Begadi MAG 5. Im want to compare the MAG to the maple leaf MR-Hop. There is one information, that isnt clear about the begadi buckings as well. What kind of material they are using. Right now, im thinking, silicone is the way to go. What do you think?
I did the “review” on the 2021 two weeks ago, and also a shooting test. So when i have the master mods r hop barrel and tru hop, i will have a shoot out with all of them 👍
@@reflexairsoft4648 Thank you for your reply. Yeah i know that you did a video about that maple leaf 2021 bucking. But in this video, its kind of confusing, because on the table you still got the older version of the maple leaf bucking laying around. Sounds like you compare the new begadi bucking with the older maple leaf bucking. Probably i wont matter long, because there will be coming a new video with all of them.
All the 2021 buckings are installed in guns atm, thats why there where non of them on the table 😊
Man, your videos are so helpful. Keep ot going specially these new buckings.
BTW, I run a wolverine inferno gen 2 on mine. Whar nub will you sugges for a mag 5 bucking combo? Have a 6.05 PDI barrel by the way
The mag5 likes the omega nub, Nice setup btw
@@reflexairsoft4648 is this better than Mr Hop 2021 Silicone bucking?
Is there any way to purchase these in the U.K.? I tried Begadi’s website, but they say they do not currently ship to the U.K., and I can’t find them listed anywhere else.
Hey, im from germany and maybe i can help you
Man upload some more videos please :/ my fav explanation airsoft channel
What about a shooting test?
When is the shooting test coming?
Which is better fly5 or mag5?
Just watched a video that tested different buckings and the conclusion was that buckings are stipulated by bb weight. The heavier bb does better with a harder bucking. Lighter bbs don't really have much of a difference.
Awesome video as always. I'm a bit of a hopup perfectionist myself. Just bought a CYMA CM 098A (SR25). Already changed barrel and hopup to the following: Retro Arms CNC hopup Gen2, lambda 6.01 barrel 420mm, maple leaf Mr hop 75° and the omega nub. Should I go for a Maxx hopup or is it not going to yield much better results than the Retro Arms one? I actually ordered a pair of MAG5 70° along with the begadi nubs after watching your video 🤣 Keep up the good work and we need more shooting test videos 😁 Greetings from 🇸🇪
Hejsan 🇩🇰 the retroarms Unit is honestly amazing, I do not own one atm, but the ones i have tried where very good. And you will see no improvement with changing to the maxx unit, so i would not 😊
The shooting test are almost done, but it takes a Long time to test it all, thats also why its been a while since the last upload 😑 thank you for the comment and thank you for the kind words
@@reflexairsoft4648 thank you for the super fast reply! You just saved me a good chunk of money. I was honestly thinking of getting the Maxx hopup, just for trying Tusind tak!
My reply is late, you could consider upgrading the nozzle on the cyma sr25. It doenst provide good airseal. If you achieve a good airseal you can change to a weaker spring which takes stress of your gun and makes it more efficient. How is the accuracy with the mag5?. Did you notice a diffrence?
@@TomMY-dA-K1nG I did some quick tests with the MAG5. Not impressed, Mr Hop is better in my setup
@@duncaniraklio ah interesting. Have you tried r-hop?
I am looking to buy the fly5 bucking, how to determine if I need the regular or short version?
Can you help as I'm interested I've got a cyma m14 socom16 what barrel should I get with this bucking it's a 420MM length barrel thanks
What happened to the shooting test video on them.
I'm thinking about buying those buckings and the day after you release a video about them. What a timing. Waiting for the range and accuracy test! Did you also buy new Begadi barrels?
If you are talking about the pps barrels with the large Windows then no, i did however order the davinci 70 barrel that has a 6.8mm window and the master mods r hop barrel thing 😊
@@reflexairsoft4648 Was talking about PPS. I'll give a try to those barrels and try to comment here if its worth it.
@@reflexairsoft4648 Some news. Tried pps barrel 455 mx7 with begadi blue mag7. Pretty good range, easy 0.32 lifting. I just did quick test, about 55m chest size hit.
Which bucking would you use on zci barrel?
Any chance to add a link for these buckings? I can't find a site to ship in UK 😔
Thanks
As for now they only ship out from the manufacture, so that would be Begadi germany
Do these fit zci barrels well they have a 5mm window, am I right in saying I need a fly mag 5?
Yes either a fly/shp 5 or mag/mhp 5
Hello, what do you think, with one can i use fly5 or mag5 with maple leaf 6,02 AEG precision barel, and what version is the best for 0.32 bb? Than you your answer.
For 0.32 i would go for the fly5
Will this bucking work with kwa stock hop up and inner barrel?
Would mag7 work on 1.2J?? Legal limit, but got Prometheus 7mm barrel (reccomendation is 1.3J or up) maybe someone tested already?
I use the MAG7 70° with 0,40g at 1,5j and it runs good but needs more play days.
Just bought it and im very impressed !!!!!!
Great to hear man 👍
Neato! Looking forward to the shooting test, for the shooting test do you shoot indoors for a range, and what length is the range?
Probably going to buy a few different brands of buckings/hardness and then test those out when I purchase an MTW Forged edition to see what best goes, probably slap in a PDI barrel and call it a day after that with upgrades. (gonna be a long day shooting at the indoor range though, to swap out everything and to keep stuff testing)
I am very lucky that at my work, the wearhouse guys let me use a unused corridor of the wearhouse, its 125m Long but I dont really test aegs at that lenght. Having different buckings is always a great idea, some fit some guns better 👍
Woaaa, thats an insane range makes me wish our airsoft regulator has that kinda facilities (we have max 60m's) but nice!
Would you happen to know a video/introduction on how to take-down a mp5k TM high-cycle? I recently bought it from a teammate who swapped away to a high-capa. I don't want to service the gearbox (good old case of magic TM sprinkles) but want to service the barrel/bucking/hop-up but cannot figure out how to access it (and being scared to break it)
I Think negative Airsoft did one, dont know how helpful it is tho 😊
where can i buy these? with the nub and barrel
Hi Reflex! Hope you can help me without me disassemble my mtw again😂. I have a prommy EG 6.03 barrel. Do you perhaps know how big that barrel window is?
The normal eg (not the krytac version or the Old fake prommys) have a 5mm lenght window, so i recommend that you always confirm sizes 👍
@@reflexairsoft4648 Aah, thnQ buddy! it's the normal EG.
@@Whitepolo95 I dont know the exact size (got the 455mm EG prom) but the window is not large enough for ML buckings. It works, but not as good as it is suppose to do.
Can I get the link to buy one please 🙏🏼
Very interested in acquiring a couple please, send me a link
Hello, have you tested also begadi PPS fx7 barrels? they should be designed to work with these fly7/mag7 buckings. it looks like a very good combo for that price.(btw, you are a great airsoft UA-camr, you deserve more subs:))
Thank you, did not upload my shooting test yet, but Can tell you that the mag7 is on top with 0.45g but it was on a modified prommy barrel.
So did not try the pps.
Thank you for the kinds words
Just bought 2 MR Hop buckings, so fingers crossed that they hold up 🤞😁
MR hop best hop up rubber i have used got Prometheus 6.03 50 degree 350fps with .20g shooting .32g and 60 degree not tried 60 yet. very good results with hop only just on.
@@christopherhayto1089 The MR Hop worked with your Prom barrel? I have a prom barrel and the window is a little too short to work properly. Have a ZCI barrel on the way to test it.
@@DarkWolfWRX mr hop perfect fit in window, i would by 50 and 60, 50 seems to soft on a hot day brought 50 silicone for winter use.
Would the longer alu nub from MAXX ME be good with the 7mm one?
I still need to try, but if the window of the barrels is 7mm, it would be great. More to come in shooting test
Do you think it's possible to use the fly 5 with a maple leaf omega nub. Or does that even make sense ?
The omega is perfect for the fly5, it makes perfect sense 👍
@@reflexairsoft4648 alright thx a lot for your answer 👌💯
Hvilket gummi vil du anbefale til mit setup:
HK416D
Polarstar FE Gen 3 med lilla poppet og nozzle
509mm PDI 6,05
Maxx Pro hop up hus
Maple Leaf MR 70 grader
Bruger Maxx 4,5mm R-hop alu nub
0,40g BLS kugler
Dog føler jeg den skyder lidt upræcist.
Sidst jeg testede den gik den omkring 2,7J med 80 PSI.
Hvor spiller du henne med den joule rate på dmr? 😄
Har kun været ude to gange at spille med den hvor den skød nogenlunde. Hos Hardball Nord, og Syddjurs Hardball Forening. Mener de fleste steder har regler op til 3J på DMR med længere afstande 😁
I am using FLY5 in my krytac and it works 10 times better than their stock crap! I lost 15 fps tho but it's worth it.
Do these work on “bridged” or “unbridged“ barrels?
Only tested on aeg barrels, so bridged 😊
@@reflexairsoft4648 - there are unbridged barrels for AEG too .. I have 3 of them :)
I Can only answer for what I have tested, and that is standard aeg barrels, and most of them are bridged, at least that is considered the standard 😊
@@reflexairsoft4648 - thank you 👍 Appreciate the replies
the test between these bucking never came
What's best for r-hop‽
If you have an r hopped barrel then you don’t need these
And...Where is the shooting test video?
I have other things to do besides UA-cam and Airsoft. House, kids, wife, job, cancer followups and other hobbies.
So all in good time
@@reflexairsoft4648 And....2 years...And i em still waiting.......
Where can we buy these? They don’t even ship to the United States
Begadi is the only sto re that sells them as far as I know.
G&G green bucking is way over maple leaf...
tru hop very bad bucking due to feed lips
Agree
Mag 7 is not better than a TNT 60° T Hop bucking but cheaper .
Its a claim, do you have something factual to back it up? Remember im not selling these or is sponsored by any company, and I dont Think I ever said they are better because I have never tried tnt t hop buckings so I cant State that they are better or worse.
But since you Can Make that claim you must have tried both
@@reflexairsoft4648 the mag 7 is simular to the TNT T hop after some testing the mag 7 is not better but cheaper.
What barrels and nub combo?
@@reflexairsoft4648 TNT s+ barrel 229 mm TNT nub
@@kai9086 From my test results I can say that TNT rubbers with a good hop unit, nub and barrel gives me the best range/accuract results. However the TNT rubbers have 1 huge drawback, the rubber lips are "straight" and a little loose. In my AEGs they work fine but to get them working good with HPA units has always been a bitch IMO, I always run into loss of pressure problems with HPA and TNT.